Re: Night owl?

[Caitlyn Furness]

There’s a good tutorial on night owl on apple vis..

I am using it, but don’t know these commands off the top of my head..

HTH,
Caitlyn

> On Jul 2, 2017, at 2:16 PM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
> 
> It’s been a while since I used night owl.  Anyone have a list of commands?  I 
> have looked in the apple menu.  But the ones I need aren’t they, or maybe 
> they don’t exist?
> Following someone
> Turning text alerts on or off for a single user
> Viewing the text of a tweet
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Re: Night Owl interrupts messages

[Antonio Guimaraes]

thanks Ricardo,

I interacted with the table because I didn’t know you can read the list with up 
and down arrows while quick nav is off.

This helps a lot. Thank you.

Antonio

> On Oct 8, 2015, at 2:02 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Why interact with the table? There is no need. Just arrow down through the 
> list. You will also want to make sure the window is expanded go to the 
> windows menu and hit zoom.
> 
> hth
>> On Oct 8, 2015, at 1:55 AM, Antonio Guimaraes  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Using right Owl, I switch to list view, then interact with the table of 
>> messages.
>> 
>> Most of the time the messages won’t read with VoiceOver in their entirety. 
>> Seems there’s a time limit for how long each message will be read for.
>> 
>> I don’t seem to experience this problem from my timeline.
>> 
>> Any solutions?
>> 
>> Antonio
>> 
>> 
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Re: Night Owl interrupts messages

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

Why interact with the table? There is no need. Just arrow down through the 
list. You will also want to make sure the window is expanded go to the windows 
menu and hit zoom.

hth
> On Oct 8, 2015, at 1:55 AM, Antonio Guimaraes  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Using right Owl, I switch to list view, then interact with the table of 
> messages.
> 
> Most of the time the messages won’t read with VoiceOver in their entirety. 
> Seems there’s a time limit for how long each message will be read for.
> 
> I don’t seem to experience this problem from my timeline.
> 
> Any solutions?
> 
> Antonio
> 
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Re: Night Owl interrupts messages

[ROBERT CARTER]

Hi,

In El Capitan, the VoiceOver command to jump to the top has changed. It no 
longer uses the shift key. So VO+home now takes you to the top and VO+end takes 
you to the bottom. If you add the shift, you are taken to the first and last 
visible item.

Robert Carter


> On Oct 8, 2015, at 8:36 AM, Faisal ali  wrote:
> 
> Not sure if this is a new bug, but I’ve also noticed that it seems to be 
> impossible to jump to the top of the table with voiceover command, options 
> shit left arrow. Can anyone confirm this?
>> On Oct 8, 2015, at 2:21 AM, Antonio Guimaraes  wrote:
>> 
>> thanks Ricardo,
>> 
>> I interacted with the table because I didn’t know you can read the list with 
>> up and down arrows while quick nav is off.
>> 
>> This helps a lot. Thank you.
>> 
>> Antonio
>> 
>>> On Oct 8, 2015, at 2:02 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Why interact with the table? There is no need. Just arrow down through the 
>>> list. You will also want to make sure the window is expanded go to the 
>>> windows menu and hit zoom.
>>> 
>>> hth
 On Oct 8, 2015, at 1:55 AM, Antonio Guimaraes  
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Using right Owl, I switch to list view, then interact with the table of 
 messages.
 
 Most of the time the messages won’t read with VoiceOver in their entirety. 
 Seems there’s a time limit for how long each message will be read for.
 
 I don’t seem to experience this problem from my timeline.
 
 Any solutions?
 
 Antonio
 
 
 
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Re: Night Owl interrupts messages

[Faisal ali]

Not sure if this is a new bug, but I’ve also noticed that it seems to be 
impossible to jump to the top of the table with voiceover command, options shit 
left arrow. Can anyone confirm this?
> On Oct 8, 2015, at 2:21 AM, Antonio Guimaraes  wrote:
> 
> thanks Ricardo,
> 
> I interacted with the table because I didn’t know you can read the list with 
> up and down arrows while quick nav is off.
> 
> This helps a lot. Thank you.
> 
> Antonio
> 
>> On Oct 8, 2015, at 2:02 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Why interact with the table? There is no need. Just arrow down through the 
>> list. You will also want to make sure the window is expanded go to the 
>> windows menu and hit zoom.
>> 
>> hth
>>> On Oct 8, 2015, at 1:55 AM, Antonio Guimaraes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Using right Owl, I switch to list view, then interact with the table of 
>>> messages.
>>> 
>>> Most of the time the messages won’t read with VoiceOver in their entirety. 
>>> Seems there’s a time limit for how long each message will be read for.
>>> 
>>> I don’t seem to experience this problem from my timeline.
>>> 
>>> Any solutions?
>>> 
>>> Antonio
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Night Owl interrupts messages

[Alex Hall]

I'd also add that, as with most places in OS X, option-up or option-down will 
move to the top or bottom of the table. You may need to stop interacting first, 
but after that those commands will work. They are less keystrokes than the VO 
commands, but they only work in tables; the VO commands work everywhere.
> On Oct 8, 2015, at 10:01, ROBERT CARTER  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> In El Capitan, the VoiceOver command to jump to the top has changed. It no 
> longer uses the shift key. So VO+home now takes you to the top and VO+end 
> takes you to the bottom. If you add the shift, you are taken to the first and 
> last visible item.
> 
> Robert Carter
> 
> 
>> On Oct 8, 2015, at 8:36 AM, Faisal ali  wrote:
>> 
>> Not sure if this is a new bug, but I’ve also noticed that it seems to be 
>> impossible to jump to the top of the table with voiceover command, options 
>> shit left arrow. Can anyone confirm this?
>>> On Oct 8, 2015, at 2:21 AM, Antonio Guimaraes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> thanks Ricardo,
>>> 
>>> I interacted with the table because I didn’t know you can read the list 
>>> with up and down arrows while quick nav is off.
>>> 
>>> This helps a lot. Thank you.
>>> 
>>> Antonio
>>> 
 On Oct 8, 2015, at 2:02 AM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Why interact with the table? There is no need. Just arrow down through the 
 list. You will also want to make sure the window is expanded go to the 
 windows menu and hit zoom.
 
 hth
> On Oct 8, 2015, at 1:55 AM, Antonio Guimaraes  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Using right Owl, I switch to list view, then interact with the table of 
> messages.
> 
> Most of the time the messages won’t read with VoiceOver in their 
> entirety. Seems there’s a time limit for how long each message will be 
> read for.
> 
> I don’t seem to experience this problem from my timeline.
> 
> Any solutions?
> 
> Antonio
> 
> 
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RE: Night Owl interrupts messages

[Maatthew Dyer]

Hi,

Yes this is a bug.  I need to report thias now that you mention it.  I wonder I 
this is only is in third party apps or a general table view problem.

Matthew



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Subject: Re: Night Owl interrupts messages

Not sure if this is a new bug, but I’ve also noticed that it seems to be 
impossible to jump to the top of the table with voiceover command, options shit 
left arrow. Can anyone confirm this?
> On Oct 8, 2015, at 2:21 AM, Antonio Guimaraes <freethau...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> thanks Ricardo,
> 
> I interacted with the table because I didn’t know you can read the list with 
> up and down arrows while quick nav is off.
> 
> This helps a lot. Thank you.
> 
> Antonio
> 
>> On Oct 8, 2015, at 2:02 AM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Why interact with the table? There is no need. Just arrow down through the 
>> list. You will also want to make sure the window is expanded go to the 
>> windows menu and hit zoom.
>> 
>> hth
>>> On Oct 8, 2015, at 1:55 AM, Antonio Guimaraes <freethau...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Using right Owl, I switch to list view, then interact with the table of 
>>> messages.
>>> 
>>> Most of the time the messages won’t read with VoiceOver in their entirety. 
>>> Seems there’s a time limit for how long each message will be read for.
>>> 
>>> I don’t seem to experience this problem from my timeline.
>>> 
>>> Any solutions?
>>> 
>>> Antonio
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Night Owl Says Certain Tweet Options Are Dimmed

[Pablo Sandoval]

That person might have a protected account, and I’m under the impression that 
means you will not be able to retweet as well as some other expected options 
aren’t available.

 On Aug 8, 2015, at 10:51 PM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all. Wondering if someone can help with this. I heard an interesting tweet 
 just now and I wanted to retweet it so that my followers could also see it. 
 But when I go to retweet it, it says that stuff like send direct message, 
 reply and yes, retweet are dimmed. What's going on and how do I fix this?
 
 Shawn
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Re: Night Owl

[Jürgen Fleger]

Hi Darcy,
sorry, I didn’t get that. If I’m in the timeline table and press Space the 
focus jumps somewhere to a quite old message, maybe a week old. Could you 
explain a little more what you do?
Thanks and all the best
Jürgen


 Am 21.04.2015 um 01:53 schrieb Darcy Burnard dhsda...@gmail.com:
 
 Hi Jürgen.  In Nightowl pressing the spacebar will take you to the oldest 
 unread tweet.  So if you're at the top of the list, pressing the spacebar 
 should do what you want.  As a matter of fact, I mainly use the spacebar to 
 browse tweets.  What I do when launching the app, is hit control 2 to go to 
 my replys tab.  If you get through all unread tweets in a tweet, spacebar 
 will take you to the first unread tweet in the next tab.  So pressing 
 spacebar moves me first to replies, direct mentions, all my list tabs, and 
 finally my main timeline.  When reading through my main timeline, the 
 spacebar moves me past tweets I may have already read in other tabs.
 Hopefully this made sense.
 Darcy
 
 On Apr 20, 2015, at 1:40 PM, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net 
 mailto:apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote:
 
 Hi Alex,
 here’s the issue:
 I’m on top of the tweet list in the timeline table. I leave Night Owl for 
 several hours while I’m away doing other things but the Mac is still 
 switched on and Night Owl is running. When I’m back at my Mac and check 
 Night Owl for the next time I’m still on top of the tweet list but on the 
 newest tweet and not at the position in the tweet list I was before when I 
 left my Computer alone. All I can do now is to scrol down manually to find 
 the position where I left several hours ago.
 Is this more clear? Do you know this behaviour?
 All the best
 Jürgen
 
 Am 20.04.2015 um 16:00 schrieb Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com:
 
 Others have hit all your questions, so I'll just mention the scrolling. 
 Unless you mean visually, I'm not sure what you're talking about here. If 
 you close and re-open Night Owl, you will be at the top, but so long as you 
 leave it open, your position never changes. Can you describe what the 
 problem is and how we can reproduce it?
 On Apr 20, 2015, at 7:24 AM, 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries 
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 wrote:
 
 hi; then post a tweet on their time line. you can do that whether you 
 follow them or not. and i use it on my mac. i have the time for refresh 
 set to like five or ten minutes. and i arrow over to the table. while in 
 the table i only move up or down when i want to. and if i want to go to 
 the top i just press 0 because there are no twitter i d with numbers at 
 the beginning and so i'm automatically taken to the top. best of luck, max 
 
 
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 On Apr 20, 2015, at 1:45 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 is Night Owl the only accessible twitter client for the Mac you know of?
 
 My issues with this app: 
 
 1. The timeline scrolls always to the top automatically and it seems to 
 be insignificant which settings I’ve set. I tried different settings but 
 it had no impact on this behaviour.
 2. I’m not able to find a support address except for twitter accounts of 
 the developers. But I’m not able to send direct messages to people who 
 don’t follow me and so there’s no way to reach them.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 All the best
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Re: Night Owl

[Jürgen Fleger]

Hi,

now it works. Thanks to Alex. The crucial point in my case was not to ionteract 
with the tweets tabel but to use just the arrow keys to move through the list 
not VO + arrow keys. I tried it the whole day. If I interact with the table the 
focus will always wander to the first entry on top of the list. Now it works 
fine because of a sidenote by Alex. Thanks. :)

All the best
Jürgen

 Am 21.04.2015 um 01:53 schrieb Darcy Burnard dhsda...@gmail.com:
 
 Hi Jürgen.  In Nightowl pressing the spacebar will take you to the oldest 
 unread tweet.  So if you're at the top of the list, pressing the spacebar 
 should do what you want.  As a matter of fact, I mainly use the spacebar to 
 browse tweets.  What I do when launching the app, is hit control 2 to go to 
 my replys tab.  If you get through all unread tweets in a tweet, spacebar 
 will take you to the first unread tweet in the next tab.  So pressing 
 spacebar moves me first to replies, direct mentions, all my list tabs, and 
 finally my main timeline.  When reading through my main timeline, the 
 spacebar moves me past tweets I may have already read in other tabs.
 Hopefully this made sense.
 Darcy
 
 On Apr 20, 2015, at 1:40 PM, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net 
 mailto:apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote:
 
 Hi Alex,
 here’s the issue:
 I’m on top of the tweet list in the timeline table. I leave Night Owl for 
 several hours while I’m away doing other things but the Mac is still 
 switched on and Night Owl is running. When I’m back at my Mac and check 
 Night Owl for the next time I’m still on top of the tweet list but on the 
 newest tweet and not at the position in the tweet list I was before when I 
 left my Computer alone. All I can do now is to scrol down manually to find 
 the position where I left several hours ago.
 Is this more clear? Do you know this behaviour?
 All the best
 Jürgen
 
 Am 20.04.2015 um 16:00 schrieb Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com:
 
 Others have hit all your questions, so I'll just mention the scrolling. 
 Unless you mean visually, I'm not sure what you're talking about here. If 
 you close and re-open Night Owl, you will be at the top, but so long as you 
 leave it open, your position never changes. Can you describe what the 
 problem is and how we can reproduce it?
 On Apr 20, 2015, at 7:24 AM, 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 wrote:
 
 hi; then post a tweet on their time line. you can do that whether you 
 follow them or not. and i use it on my mac. i have the time for refresh 
 set to like five or ten minutes. and i arrow over to the table. while in 
 the table i only move up or down when i want to. and if i want to go to 
 the top i just press 0 because there are no twitter i d with numbers at 
 the beginning and so i'm automatically taken to the top. best of luck, max 
 
 
 Maxwell Ivey Jr.
 
 phone 979-215-1770
 
 Skype Maxwell Ivey
 
 twitter @maxwellivey
 
 as mr. midway
 
 www.midwaymarketplace.com http://www.midwaymarketplace.com/
 
 email maxw...@midwaymarketplace.com mailto:maxw...@midwaymarketplace.com
 
 as the blind blogger 
 
 www.theblindblogger.net http://www.theblindblogger.net/
 
 email just...@theblindblogger.net mailto:just...@theblindblogger.net
 
 
 
 On Apr 20, 2015, at 1:45 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 is Night Owl the only accessible twitter client for the Mac you know of?
 
 My issues with this app: 
 
 1. The timeline scrolls always to the top automatically and it seems to 
 be insignificant which settings I’ve set. I tried different settings but 
 it had no impact on this behaviour.
 2. I’m not able to find a support address except for twitter accounts of 
 the developers. But I’m not able to send direct messages to people who 
 don’t follow me and so there’s no way to reach them.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 All the best
 Jürgen
 
 
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Re: Night Owl

[Stacey Robinson]

Alex,
Thanks very much.
I appreciate that.

Blessings,
Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.

mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
 On Apr 20, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I'll paste the text below. This is the Markdown text I keep locally, so 
 you'll see some links and bits of syntax here and there. It's quite readable, 
 though, and isn't HTML or anything that will be a headache. That said, the 
 Unhand can go online, and AppleVis should be pretty nice to mobile devices, 
 so if you want heading navigation you can try loading the link I sent on the 
 Sense.
 
 ###What Is Night Owl?
 [Night 
 Owl](http://www.applevis.com/apps/mac/social-networking/night-owl-aka-yorufukurou
  
 http://www.applevis.com/apps/mac/social-networking/night-owl-aka-yorufukurou)
  is the only accessible Twitter client for the Mac, or at least the most 
 popular among VoiceOver users. With it, you can retweets, manage lists, send 
 direct messages, save searches, and much more. While most of the app is 
 relatively simple, some parts can be a bit confusing, and there are some 
 undocumented shortcuts and features. This guide will walk you through the 
 basics of the app, and explained most of the features. If audio is your 
 thing, AppleVis has has a 
 [Night Owl 
 podcast.](http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/introduction-yorufukurou-mac-twitter-client-actually-works-voiceover
  
 http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/introduction-yorufukurou-mac-twitter-client-actually-works-voiceover)
 
 This tutorial assumes that you have a basic level of familiarity with 
 VoiceOver. You don't need to know any advanced commands, but the 
 basics--navigating the screen, activating buttons and pop-up menu's, 
 interacting, and so on--are required. Of course, you will also need to 
 already have a Twitter Account activated–you need to know that accounts user 
 name and password in order to login. If you don't yet have an account, 
 creating one is simple and free. To learn more about twitter, and to create 
 your own account, visit the 
 [Twitter website.](http://www.twitter.com http://www.twitter.com/)
 
 ###Signing In
 When you first launch Night Owl, you will be prompted to sign into your 
 Twitter account. If you are not, or if you are already signed into one 
 account but want to sign into a different one, open Night Owl's preferences 
 with command-comma, choose the accounts button from the toolbar, then find 
 and activate the Ad button. You will be taken to a webpage where you enter 
 your Twitter username and password, and Then press enter to sign in. Assuming 
 your credentials were correct, you will be asked to grant Night Owl access to 
 your Twitter account; do so, and you will be returned to the main window. Now 
 that you have successfully signed in, it's time to see how this app works.
 
 ###the Main Window
 This is where you read and manage tweets, compose new tweets, find users, and 
 more. There are several important things here, and we'll examine them one at 
 a time. To make things easy, we'll go from the top of the window and use 
 vo-right to move from item to item. Press vo-shift-home (vo-shift-fn-left on 
 Apple keyboards with no Home key) to get to the top, and you'll land on a 
 text label telling you the current tab (which is probably Timeline) and the 
 name of the account you're using. Press vo-right to get to….
 
 The Toolbar
 The first important thing you'll find is a toolbar. Interact with it and 
 you'll see buttons for viewing a user's timeline or the conversation, marking 
 a tweet as read, and more. While you can certainly use all these buttons if 
 you like, all of them also have keyboard shortcuts which you will probably 
 find much more convenient. Stop interacting with this toolbar once you've 
 reviewed it, and press vo-right. You'll next come to…
 
 The Drawer
 Once you land on this item, which VoiceOver identifies simply as Drawer, 
 interact with it to explore the contents. The Drawer is where information and 
 management tools for the author of the focused tweet will appear. For 
 example, you can follow/unfollow, block, or report the user; you can view 
 their profile, location, and picture; you can see how many followers they 
 have, how many people follow them, and how may tweets they've posted; and you 
 can see details on the tweet in focus over in the list.
 
 The one item in here with which you can actually interact is the User Action 
 Menu. Once you activate this menu, you have several options, all of which 
 are self-explanatory--Reply, Retweet, Direct Message, etc. The Following 
 Status submenu is where you go to follow, un-follow, or block a user, and it 
 also shows you if the user is following you (you'll need to vo-up arrow to 
 see that last one; plain old arrow keys will skip over it as it is dimmed). 
 Once you're done, stop interacting with the Drawer, vo-right, and land on…
 
 

Re: Night Owl

[Jamie Pauls]

There is an excellent podcast done by Alex Hall over at www.applevis.com 
http://www.applevis.com/.

Take care and have a great day.
Jamie Pauls
jamiepa...@gmail.com



 On Apr 20, 2015, at 6:57 PM, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 I have Nightowl and really don’t know how to use it.
 Is there a guide I can look up on how to use this program with VoiceOver
 Blessings,
 Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.
   
 mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
 On Apr 20, 2015, at 6:53 PM, Darcy Burnard dhsda...@gmail.com 
 mailto:dhsda...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Jürgen.  In Nightowl pressing the spacebar will take you to the oldest 
 unread tweet.  So if you're at the top of the list, pressing the spacebar 
 should do what you want.  As a matter of fact, I mainly use the spacebar to 
 browse tweets.  What I do when launching the app, is hit control 2 to go to 
 my replys tab.  If you get through all unread tweets in a tweet, spacebar 
 will take you to the first unread tweet in the next tab.  So pressing 
 spacebar moves me first to replies, direct mentions, all my list tabs, and 
 finally my main timeline.  When reading through my main timeline, the 
 spacebar moves me past tweets I may have already read in other tabs.
 Hopefully this made sense.
 Darcy
 
 On Apr 20, 2015, at 1:40 PM, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net 
 mailto:apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote:
 
 Hi Alex,
 here’s the issue:
 I’m on top of the tweet list in the timeline table. I leave Night Owl for 
 several hours while I’m away doing other things but the Mac is still 
 switched on and Night Owl is running. When I’m back at my Mac and check 
 Night Owl for the next time I’m still on top of the tweet list but on the 
 newest tweet and not at the position in the tweet list I was before when I 
 left my Computer alone. All I can do now is to scrol down manually to find 
 the position where I left several hours ago.
 Is this more clear? Do you know this behaviour?
 All the best
 Jürgen
 
 Am 20.04.2015 um 16:00 schrieb Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com:
 
 Others have hit all your questions, so I'll just mention the scrolling. 
 Unless you mean visually, I'm not sure what you're talking about here. If 
 you close and re-open Night Owl, you will be at the top, but so long as 
 you leave it open, your position never changes. Can you describe what the 
 problem is and how we can reproduce it?
 On Apr 20, 2015, at 7:24 AM, 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 hi; then post a tweet on their time line. you can do that whether you 
 follow them or not. and i use it on my mac. i have the time for refresh 
 set to like five or ten minutes. and i arrow over to the table. while in 
 the table i only move up or down when i want to. and if i want to go to 
 the top i just press 0 because there are no twitter i d with numbers at 
 the beginning and so i'm automatically taken to the top. best of luck, 
 max 
 
 
 Maxwell Ivey Jr.
 
 phone 979-215-1770
 
 Skype Maxwell Ivey
 
 twitter @maxwellivey
 
 as mr. midway
 
 www.midwaymarketplace.com http://www.midwaymarketplace.com/
 
 email maxw...@midwaymarketplace.com mailto:maxw...@midwaymarketplace.com
 
 as the blind blogger 
 
 www.theblindblogger.net http://www.theblindblogger.net/
 
 email just...@theblindblogger.net mailto:just...@theblindblogger.net
 
 
 
 On Apr 20, 2015, at 1:45 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 is Night Owl the only accessible twitter client for the Mac you know of?
 
 My issues with this app: 
 
 1. The timeline scrolls always to the top automatically and it seems to 
 be insignificant which settings I’ve set. I tried different settings but 
 it had no impact on this behaviour.
 2. I’m not able to find a support address except for twitter accounts of 
 the developers. But I’m not able to send direct messages to people who 
 don’t follow me and so there’s no way to reach them.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 All the best
 Jürgen
 
 
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Re: Night Owl

[Alex Hall]

I've actually never seen that. When I leave Night Owl, then come back to it, a 
press of either up or down arrow (Quick nav off) will cause VO to say how many 
rows were added, then I can keep arrowing up through the newer tweets. Perhaps 
try using j and k to navigate, instead of the arrows? Again, be sure Quick Nav 
is off no matter what. Also, though this shouldn't make a difference, go to 
Night Owl's preferences and be sure that anything about scrolling to top is not 
checked.
 On Apr 20, 2015, at 2:40 PM, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote:
 
 Hi Alex,
 here’s the issue:
 I’m on top of the tweet list in the timeline table. I leave Night Owl for 
 several hours while I’m away doing other things but the Mac is still switched 
 on and Night Owl is running. When I’m back at my Mac and check Night Owl for 
 the next time I’m still on top of the tweet list but on the newest tweet and 
 not at the position in the tweet list I was before when I left my Computer 
 alone. All I can do now is to scrol down manually to find the position where 
 I left several hours ago.
 Is this more clear? Do you know this behaviour?
 All the best
 Jürgen
 
 Am 20.04.2015 um 16:00 schrieb Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com:
 
 Others have hit all your questions, so I'll just mention the scrolling. 
 Unless you mean visually, I'm not sure what you're talking about here. If 
 you close and re-open Night Owl, you will be at the top, but so long as you 
 leave it open, your position never changes. Can you describe what the 
 problem is and how we can reproduce it?
 On Apr 20, 2015, at 7:24 AM, 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 wrote:
 
 hi; then post a tweet on their time line. you can do that whether you 
 follow them or not. and i use it on my mac. i have the time for refresh set 
 to like five or ten minutes. and i arrow over to the table. while in the 
 table i only move up or down when i want to. and if i want to go to the top 
 i just press 0 because there are no twitter i d with numbers at the 
 beginning and so i'm automatically taken to the top. best of luck, max 
 
 
 Maxwell Ivey Jr.
 
 phone 979-215-1770
 
 Skype Maxwell Ivey
 
 twitter @maxwellivey
 
 as mr. midway
 
 www.midwaymarketplace.com http://www.midwaymarketplace.com/
 
 email maxw...@midwaymarketplace.com mailto:maxw...@midwaymarketplace.com
 
 as the blind blogger 
 
 www.theblindblogger.net http://www.theblindblogger.net/
 
 email just...@theblindblogger.net mailto:just...@theblindblogger.net
 
 
 
 On Apr 20, 2015, at 1:45 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 is Night Owl the only accessible twitter client for the Mac you know of?
 
 My issues with this app: 
 
 1. The timeline scrolls always to the top automatically and it seems to be 
 insignificant which settings I’ve set. I tried different settings but it 
 had no impact on this behaviour.
 2. I’m not able to find a support address except for twitter accounts of 
 the developers. But I’m not able to send direct messages to people who 
 don’t follow me and so there’s no way to reach them.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 All the best
 Jürgen
 
 
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Re: Night Owl

[Stacey Robinson]

Alex

Is their a way I can save this so I can read it on my Braille Sense Onhand?
A text file would be great.

Blessings,
Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.

mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
 On Apr 20, 2015, at 7:07 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 You have good timing--I posted a guide and podcast on AppleVis quite 
 recently. Here's the guide, which contains a link to the podcast:
 http://www.applevis.com/guides/mac-apps/guide-night-owl 
 http://www.applevis.com/guides/mac-apps/guide-night-owl
 On Apr 20, 2015, at 7:57 PM, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 I have Nightowl and really don’t know how to use it.
 Is there a guide I can look up on how to use this program with VoiceOver
 Blessings,
 Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.
  
 mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
 On Apr 20, 2015, at 6:53 PM, Darcy Burnard dhsda...@gmail.com 
 mailto:dhsda...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Jürgen.  In Nightowl pressing the spacebar will take you to the oldest 
 unread tweet.  So if you're at the top of the list, pressing the spacebar 
 should do what you want.  As a matter of fact, I mainly use the spacebar to 
 browse tweets.  What I do when launching the app, is hit control 2 to go to 
 my replys tab.  If you get through all unread tweets in a tweet, spacebar 
 will take you to the first unread tweet in the next tab.  So pressing 
 spacebar moves me first to replies, direct mentions, all my list tabs, and 
 finally my main timeline.  When reading through my main timeline, the 
 spacebar moves me past tweets I may have already read in other tabs.
 Hopefully this made sense.
 Darcy
 
 On Apr 20, 2015, at 1:40 PM, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net 
 mailto:apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote:
 
 Hi Alex,
 here’s the issue:
 I’m on top of the tweet list in the timeline table. I leave Night Owl for 
 several hours while I’m away doing other things but the Mac is still 
 switched on and Night Owl is running. When I’m back at my Mac and check 
 Night Owl for the next time I’m still on top of the tweet list but on the 
 newest tweet and not at the position in the tweet list I was before when I 
 left my Computer alone. All I can do now is to scrol down manually to find 
 the position where I left several hours ago.
 Is this more clear? Do you know this behaviour?
 All the best
 Jürgen
 
 Am 20.04.2015 um 16:00 schrieb Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com:
 
 Others have hit all your questions, so I'll just mention the scrolling. 
 Unless you mean visually, I'm not sure what you're talking about here. If 
 you close and re-open Night Owl, you will be at the top, but so long as 
 you leave it open, your position never changes. Can you describe what the 
 problem is and how we can reproduce it?
 On Apr 20, 2015, at 7:24 AM, 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 hi; then post a tweet on their time line. you can do that whether you 
 follow them or not. and i use it on my mac. i have the time for refresh 
 set to like five or ten minutes. and i arrow over to the table. while in 
 the table i only move up or down when i want to. and if i want to go to 
 the top i just press 0 because there are no twitter i d with numbers at 
 the beginning and so i'm automatically taken to the top. best of luck, 
 max 
 
 
 Maxwell Ivey Jr.
 
 phone 979-215-1770
 
 Skype Maxwell Ivey
 
 twitter @maxwellivey
 
 as mr. midway
 
 www.midwaymarketplace.com http://www.midwaymarketplace.com/
 
 email maxw...@midwaymarketplace.com 
 mailto:maxw...@midwaymarketplace.com
 
 as the blind blogger 
 
 www.theblindblogger.net http://www.theblindblogger.net/
 
 email just...@theblindblogger.net mailto:just...@theblindblogger.net
 
 
 
 On Apr 20, 2015, at 1:45 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 is Night Owl the only accessible twitter client for the Mac you know of?
 
 My issues with this app: 
 
 1. The timeline scrolls always to the top automatically and it seems to 
 be insignificant which settings I’ve set. I tried different settings 
 but it had no impact on this behaviour.
 2. I’m not able to find a support address except for twitter accounts 
 of the developers. But I’m not able to send direct messages to people 
 who don’t follow me and so there’s no way to reach them.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 All the best
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Re: Night Owl

[Darcy Burnard]

Hi Jürgen.  In Nightowl pressing the spacebar will take you to the oldest 
unread tweet.  So if you're at the top of the list, pressing the spacebar 
should do what you want.  As a matter of fact, I mainly use the spacebar to 
browse tweets.  What I do when launching the app, is hit control 2 to go to my 
replys tab.  If you get through all unread tweets in a tweet, spacebar will 
take you to the first unread tweet in the next tab.  So pressing spacebar moves 
me first to replies, direct mentions, all my list tabs, and finally my main 
timeline.  When reading through my main timeline, the spacebar moves me past 
tweets I may have already read in other tabs.
Hopefully this made sense.
Darcy

 On Apr 20, 2015, at 1:40 PM, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote:
 
 Hi Alex,
 here’s the issue:
 I’m on top of the tweet list in the timeline table. I leave Night Owl for 
 several hours while I’m away doing other things but the Mac is still switched 
 on and Night Owl is running. When I’m back at my Mac and check Night Owl for 
 the next time I’m still on top of the tweet list but on the newest tweet and 
 not at the position in the tweet list I was before when I left my Computer 
 alone. All I can do now is to scrol down manually to find the position where 
 I left several hours ago.
 Is this more clear? Do you know this behaviour?
 All the best
 Jürgen
 
 Am 20.04.2015 um 16:00 schrieb Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com:
 
 Others have hit all your questions, so I'll just mention the scrolling. 
 Unless you mean visually, I'm not sure what you're talking about here. If 
 you close and re-open Night Owl, you will be at the top, but so long as you 
 leave it open, your position never changes. Can you describe what the 
 problem is and how we can reproduce it?
 On Apr 20, 2015, at 7:24 AM, 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 wrote:
 
 hi; then post a tweet on their time line. you can do that whether you 
 follow them or not. and i use it on my mac. i have the time for refresh set 
 to like five or ten minutes. and i arrow over to the table. while in the 
 table i only move up or down when i want to. and if i want to go to the top 
 i just press 0 because there are no twitter i d with numbers at the 
 beginning and so i'm automatically taken to the top. best of luck, max 
 
 
 Maxwell Ivey Jr.
 
 phone 979-215-1770
 
 Skype Maxwell Ivey
 
 twitter @maxwellivey
 
 as mr. midway
 
 www.midwaymarketplace.com http://www.midwaymarketplace.com/
 
 email maxw...@midwaymarketplace.com mailto:maxw...@midwaymarketplace.com
 
 as the blind blogger 
 
 www.theblindblogger.net http://www.theblindblogger.net/
 
 email just...@theblindblogger.net mailto:just...@theblindblogger.net
 
 
 
 On Apr 20, 2015, at 1:45 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 is Night Owl the only accessible twitter client for the Mac you know of?
 
 My issues with this app: 
 
 1. The timeline scrolls always to the top automatically and it seems to be 
 insignificant which settings I’ve set. I tried different settings but it 
 had no impact on this behaviour.
 2. I’m not able to find a support address except for twitter accounts of 
 the developers. But I’m not able to send direct messages to people who 
 don’t follow me and so there’s no way to reach them.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 All the best
 Jürgen
 
 
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Re: Night Owl

[Alex Hall]

You have good timing--I posted a guide and podcast on AppleVis quite recently. 
Here's the guide, which contains a link to the podcast:
http://www.applevis.com/guides/mac-apps/guide-night-owl
 On Apr 20, 2015, at 7:57 PM, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 I have Nightowl and really don’t know how to use it.
 Is there a guide I can look up on how to use this program with VoiceOver
 Blessings,
 Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.
   
 mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
 On Apr 20, 2015, at 6:53 PM, Darcy Burnard dhsda...@gmail.com 
 mailto:dhsda...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Jürgen.  In Nightowl pressing the spacebar will take you to the oldest 
 unread tweet.  So if you're at the top of the list, pressing the spacebar 
 should do what you want.  As a matter of fact, I mainly use the spacebar to 
 browse tweets.  What I do when launching the app, is hit control 2 to go to 
 my replys tab.  If you get through all unread tweets in a tweet, spacebar 
 will take you to the first unread tweet in the next tab.  So pressing 
 spacebar moves me first to replies, direct mentions, all my list tabs, and 
 finally my main timeline.  When reading through my main timeline, the 
 spacebar moves me past tweets I may have already read in other tabs.
 Hopefully this made sense.
 Darcy
 
 On Apr 20, 2015, at 1:40 PM, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net 
 mailto:apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote:
 
 Hi Alex,
 here’s the issue:
 I’m on top of the tweet list in the timeline table. I leave Night Owl for 
 several hours while I’m away doing other things but the Mac is still 
 switched on and Night Owl is running. When I’m back at my Mac and check 
 Night Owl for the next time I’m still on top of the tweet list but on the 
 newest tweet and not at the position in the tweet list I was before when I 
 left my Computer alone. All I can do now is to scrol down manually to find 
 the position where I left several hours ago.
 Is this more clear? Do you know this behaviour?
 All the best
 Jürgen
 
 Am 20.04.2015 um 16:00 schrieb Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com:
 
 Others have hit all your questions, so I'll just mention the scrolling. 
 Unless you mean visually, I'm not sure what you're talking about here. If 
 you close and re-open Night Owl, you will be at the top, but so long as 
 you leave it open, your position never changes. Can you describe what the 
 problem is and how we can reproduce it?
 On Apr 20, 2015, at 7:24 AM, 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 hi; then post a tweet on their time line. you can do that whether you 
 follow them or not. and i use it on my mac. i have the time for refresh 
 set to like five or ten minutes. and i arrow over to the table. while in 
 the table i only move up or down when i want to. and if i want to go to 
 the top i just press 0 because there are no twitter i d with numbers at 
 the beginning and so i'm automatically taken to the top. best of luck, 
 max 
 
 
 Maxwell Ivey Jr.
 
 phone 979-215-1770
 
 Skype Maxwell Ivey
 
 twitter @maxwellivey
 
 as mr. midway
 
 www.midwaymarketplace.com http://www.midwaymarketplace.com/
 
 email maxw...@midwaymarketplace.com mailto:maxw...@midwaymarketplace.com
 
 as the blind blogger 
 
 www.theblindblogger.net http://www.theblindblogger.net/
 
 email just...@theblindblogger.net mailto:just...@theblindblogger.net
 
 
 
 On Apr 20, 2015, at 1:45 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 is Night Owl the only accessible twitter client for the Mac you know of?
 
 My issues with this app: 
 
 1. The timeline scrolls always to the top automatically and it seems to 
 be insignificant which settings I’ve set. I tried different settings but 
 it had no impact on this behaviour.
 2. I’m not able to find a support address except for twitter accounts of 
 the developers. But I’m not able to send direct messages to people who 
 don’t follow me and so there’s no way to reach them.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 All the best
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Re: Night Owl

[Alex Hall]

I'll paste the text below. This is the Markdown text I keep locally, so you'll 
see some links and bits of syntax here and there. It's quite readable, though, 
and isn't HTML or anything that will be a headache. That said, the Unhand can 
go online, and AppleVis should be pretty nice to mobile devices, so if you want 
heading navigation you can try loading the link I sent on the Sense.

###What Is Night Owl?
[Night 
Owl](http://www.applevis.com/apps/mac/social-networking/night-owl-aka-yorufukurou)
 is the only accessible Twitter client for the Mac, or at least the most 
popular among VoiceOver users. With it, you can retweets, manage lists, send 
direct messages, save searches, and much more. While most of the app is 
relatively simple, some parts can be a bit confusing, and there are some 
undocumented shortcuts and features. This guide will walk you through the 
basics of the app, and explained most of the features. If audio is your thing, 
AppleVis has has a 
[Night Owl 
podcast.](http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/introduction-yorufukurou-mac-twitter-client-actually-works-voiceover)

This tutorial assumes that you have a basic level of familiarity with 
VoiceOver. You don't need to know any advanced commands, but the 
basics--navigating the screen, activating buttons and pop-up menu's, 
interacting, and so on--are required. Of course, you will also need to already 
have a Twitter Account activated–you need to know that accounts user name and 
password in order to login. If you don't yet have an account, creating one is 
simple and free. To learn more about twitter, and to create your own account, 
visit the 
[Twitter website.](http://www.twitter.com)

###Signing In
When you first launch Night Owl, you will be prompted to sign into your Twitter 
account. If you are not, or if you are already signed into one account but want 
to sign into a different one, open Night Owl's preferences with command-comma, 
choose the accounts button from the toolbar, then find and activate the Ad 
button. You will be taken to a webpage where you enter your Twitter username 
and password, and Then press enter to sign in. Assuming your credentials were 
correct, you will be asked to grant Night Owl access to your Twitter account; 
do so, and you will be returned to the main window. Now that you have 
successfully signed in, it's time to see how this app works.

###the Main Window
This is where you read and manage tweets, compose new tweets, find users, and 
more. There are several important things here, and we'll examine them one at a 
time. To make things easy, we'll go from the top of the window and use vo-right 
to move from item to item. Press vo-shift-home (vo-shift-fn-left on Apple 
keyboards with no Home key) to get to the top, and you'll land on a text label 
telling you the current tab (which is probably Timeline) and the name of the 
account you're using. Press vo-right to get to….

The Toolbar
The first important thing you'll find is a toolbar. Interact with it and you'll 
see buttons for viewing a user's timeline or the conversation, marking a tweet 
as read, and more. While you can certainly use all these buttons if you like, 
all of them also have keyboard shortcuts which you will probably find much more 
convenient. Stop interacting with this toolbar once you've reviewed it, and 
press vo-right. You'll next come to…

The Drawer
Once you land on this item, which VoiceOver identifies simply as Drawer, 
interact with it to explore the contents. The Drawer is where information and 
management tools for the author of the focused tweet will appear. For example, 
you can follow/unfollow, block, or report the user; you can view their profile, 
location, and picture; you can see how many followers they have, how many 
people follow them, and how may tweets they've posted; and you can see details 
on the tweet in focus over in the list.

The one item in here with which you can actually interact is the User Action 
Menu. Once you activate this menu, you have several options, all of which are 
self-explanatory--Reply, Retweet, Direct Message, etc. The Following Status 
submenu is where you go to follow, un-follow, or block a user, and it also 
shows you if the user is following you (you'll need to vo-up arrow to see that 
last one; plain old arrow keys will skip over it as it is dimmed). Once you're 
done, stop interacting with the Drawer, vo-right, and land on…

New Tweet
There are three items associated with writing tweets, and they start just after 
the Drawer. Note that you may see an item called just image first; I have no 
idea what this is, and it has no label or help tag. Anyway, the first item 
we're interested in is an edit field, where you type your tweet. If you are 
retweeting with a comment, direct messaging, or replying to a tweet, text will 
appear in this field with your cursor at the start or end, as necessary for the 
action you're performing. Note that this field is not automatically 

Re: Night Owl

[Stacey Robinson]

I have Nightowl and really don’t know how to use it.
Is there a guide I can look up on how to use this program with VoiceOver
Blessings,
Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Kirk.

mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
 On Apr 20, 2015, at 6:53 PM, Darcy Burnard dhsda...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Jürgen.  In Nightowl pressing the spacebar will take you to the oldest 
 unread tweet.  So if you're at the top of the list, pressing the spacebar 
 should do what you want.  As a matter of fact, I mainly use the spacebar to 
 browse tweets.  What I do when launching the app, is hit control 2 to go to 
 my replys tab.  If you get through all unread tweets in a tweet, spacebar 
 will take you to the first unread tweet in the next tab.  So pressing 
 spacebar moves me first to replies, direct mentions, all my list tabs, and 
 finally my main timeline.  When reading through my main timeline, the 
 spacebar moves me past tweets I may have already read in other tabs.
 Hopefully this made sense.
 Darcy
 
 On Apr 20, 2015, at 1:40 PM, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net 
 mailto:apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote:
 
 Hi Alex,
 here’s the issue:
 I’m on top of the tweet list in the timeline table. I leave Night Owl for 
 several hours while I’m away doing other things but the Mac is still 
 switched on and Night Owl is running. When I’m back at my Mac and check 
 Night Owl for the next time I’m still on top of the tweet list but on the 
 newest tweet and not at the position in the tweet list I was before when I 
 left my Computer alone. All I can do now is to scrol down manually to find 
 the position where I left several hours ago.
 Is this more clear? Do you know this behaviour?
 All the best
 Jürgen
 
 Am 20.04.2015 um 16:00 schrieb Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 
 mailto:mehg...@icloud.com:
 
 Others have hit all your questions, so I'll just mention the scrolling. 
 Unless you mean visually, I'm not sure what you're talking about here. If 
 you close and re-open Night Owl, you will be at the top, but so long as you 
 leave it open, your position never changes. Can you describe what the 
 problem is and how we can reproduce it?
 On Apr 20, 2015, at 7:24 AM, 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 wrote:
 
 hi; then post a tweet on their time line. you can do that whether you 
 follow them or not. and i use it on my mac. i have the time for refresh 
 set to like five or ten minutes. and i arrow over to the table. while in 
 the table i only move up or down when i want to. and if i want to go to 
 the top i just press 0 because there are no twitter i d with numbers at 
 the beginning and so i'm automatically taken to the top. best of luck, max 
 
 
 Maxwell Ivey Jr.
 
 phone 979-215-1770
 
 Skype Maxwell Ivey
 
 twitter @maxwellivey
 
 as mr. midway
 
 www.midwaymarketplace.com http://www.midwaymarketplace.com/
 
 email maxw...@midwaymarketplace.com mailto:maxw...@midwaymarketplace.com
 
 as the blind blogger 
 
 www.theblindblogger.net http://www.theblindblogger.net/
 
 email just...@theblindblogger.net mailto:just...@theblindblogger.net
 
 
 
 On Apr 20, 2015, at 1:45 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 is Night Owl the only accessible twitter client for the Mac you know of?
 
 My issues with this app: 
 
 1. The timeline scrolls always to the top automatically and it seems to 
 be insignificant which settings I’ve set. I tried different settings but 
 it had no impact on this behaviour.
 2. I’m not able to find a support address except for twitter accounts of 
 the developers. But I’m not able to send direct messages to people who 
 don’t follow me and so there’s no way to reach them.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 All the best
 Jürgen
 
 
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Re: Night Owl

['Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries]

hi; then post a tweet on their time line. you can do that whether you follow 
them or not. and i use it on my mac. i have the time for refresh set to like 
five or ten minutes. and i arrow over to the table. while in the table i only 
move up or down when i want to. and if i want to go to the top i just press 0 
because there are no twitter i d with numbers at the beginning and so i'm 
automatically taken to the top. best of luck, max 


Maxwell Ivey Jr.

phone 979-215-1770

Skype Maxwell Ivey

twitter @maxwellivey

as mr. midway

www.midwaymarketplace.com

email maxw...@midwaymarketplace.com

as the blind blogger 

www.theblindblogger.net

email just...@theblindblogger.net



On Apr 20, 2015, at 1:45 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote:

 Hi,
 
 is Night Owl the only accessible twitter client for the Mac you know of?
 
 My issues with this app: 
 
 1. The timeline scrolls always to the top automatically and it seems to be 
 insignificant which settings I’ve set. I tried different settings but it had 
 no impact on this behaviour.
 2. I’m not able to find a support address except for twitter accounts of the 
 developers. But I’m not able to send direct messages to people who don’t 
 follow me and so there’s no way to reach them.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 All the best
 Jürgen
 
 
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Re: Night Owl

[Ray Foret Jr]

First, the fact that you cannot send direct messages to people who do not 
follow you is not a fault of Nightowl.  That's a limitation of Twitter itself.  
As to other clients, forget it.  Nightowl is the one and only Twitter client 
which we can use for the Mac.

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray

Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!

Sent from my Mac,
the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in

 On Apr 20, 2015, at 1:45 AM, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 is Night Owl the only accessible twitter client for the Mac you know of?
 
 My issues with this app: 
 
 1. The timeline scrolls always to the top automatically and it seems to be 
 insignificant which settings I’ve set. I tried different settings but it had 
 no impact on this behaviour.
 2. I’m not able to find a support address except for twitter accounts of the 
 developers. But I’m not able to send direct messages to people who don’t 
 follow me and so there’s no way to reach them.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 All the best
 Jürgen
 
 
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Re: Night Owl

[sadam ahmed]

Hello, 

Night Owl was updated yesterday. 

The release notes claim that some issues relating to account management were 
addressed. 

You should be running version 2.83.  

I echo the sentiments forget any other Twitter client on the desktop. 

Best, 

Sadam Mohammed Ahmed 

B.A. Business Information Systems 

RMIT University 

 On 20 Apr 2015, at 5:06 pm, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 First, the fact that you cannot send direct messages to people who do not 
 follow you is not a fault of Nightowl.  That's a limitation of Twitter 
 itself.  As to other clients, forget it.  Nightowl is the one and only 
 Twitter client which we can use for the Mac.
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 
 Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
 
 Sent from my Mac,
 the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
 
 On Apr 20, 2015, at 1:45 AM, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net 
 mailto:apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 is Night Owl the only accessible twitter client for the Mac you know of?
 
 My issues with this app: 
 
 1. The timeline scrolls always to the top automatically and it seems to be 
 insignificant which settings I’ve set. I tried different settings but it had 
 no impact on this behaviour.
 2. I’m not able to find a support address except for twitter accounts of the 
 developers. But I’m not able to send direct messages to people who don’t 
 follow me and so there’s no way to reach them.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 All the best
 Jürgen
 
 
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Re: Night Owl

[Jürgen Fleger]

Thanks for your answer.
I know that this is not the fault of Night Owl. But I don’t like the fact a 
developer is not availabel directly, in this case even not at all.
But that’s not my request. Again, thanks for answering my question.
J

 Am 20.04.2015 um 09:06 schrieb Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net:
 
 First, the fact that you cannot send direct messages to people who do not 
 follow you is not a fault of Nightowl.  That's a limitation of Twitter 
 itself.  As to other clients, forget it.  Nightowl is the one and only 
 Twitter client which we can use for the Mac.
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 
 Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
 
 Sent from my Mac,
 the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
 
 On Apr 20, 2015, at 1:45 AM, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net 
 mailto:apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 is Night Owl the only accessible twitter client for the Mac you know of?
 
 My issues with this app: 
 
 1. The timeline scrolls always to the top automatically and it seems to be 
 insignificant which settings I’ve set. I tried different settings but it had 
 no impact on this behaviour.
 2. I’m not able to find a support address except for twitter accounts of the 
 developers. But I’m not able to send direct messages to people who don’t 
 follow me and so there’s no way to reach them.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 All the best
 Jürgen
 
 
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Re: Night Owl

[Alex Hall]

Others have hit all your questions, so I'll just mention the scrolling. Unless 
you mean visually, I'm not sure what you're talking about here. If you close 
and re-open Night Owl, you will be at the top, but so long as you leave it 
open, your position never changes. Can you describe what the problem is and how 
we can reproduce it?
 On Apr 20, 2015, at 7:24 AM, 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries 
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 hi; then post a tweet on their time line. you can do that whether you follow 
 them or not. and i use it on my mac. i have the time for refresh set to like 
 five or ten minutes. and i arrow over to the table. while in the table i only 
 move up or down when i want to. and if i want to go to the top i just press 0 
 because there are no twitter i d with numbers at the beginning and so i'm 
 automatically taken to the top. best of luck, max 
 
 
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 On Apr 20, 2015, at 1:45 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 is Night Owl the only accessible twitter client for the Mac you know of?
 
 My issues with this app: 
 
 1. The timeline scrolls always to the top automatically and it seems to be 
 insignificant which settings I’ve set. I tried different settings but it had 
 no impact on this behaviour.
 2. I’m not able to find a support address except for twitter accounts of the 
 developers. But I’m not able to send direct messages to people who don’t 
 follow me and so there’s no way to reach them.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 All the best
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Re: Night Owl

[Jürgen Fleger]

Hi Alex,
here’s the issue:
I’m on top of the tweet list in the timeline table. I leave Night Owl for 
several hours while I’m away doing other things but the Mac is still switched 
on and Night Owl is running. When I’m back at my Mac and check Night Owl for 
the next time I’m still on top of the tweet list but on the newest tweet and 
not at the position in the tweet list I was before when I left my Computer 
alone. All I can do now is to scrol down manually to find the position where I 
left several hours ago.
Is this more clear? Do you know this behaviour?
All the best
Jürgen

 Am 20.04.2015 um 16:00 schrieb Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com:
 
 Others have hit all your questions, so I'll just mention the scrolling. 
 Unless you mean visually, I'm not sure what you're talking about here. If you 
 close and re-open Night Owl, you will be at the top, but so long as you leave 
 it open, your position never changes. Can you describe what the problem is 
 and how we can reproduce it?
 On Apr 20, 2015, at 7:24 AM, 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries 
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 wrote:
 
 hi; then post a tweet on their time line. you can do that whether you follow 
 them or not. and i use it on my mac. i have the time for refresh set to like 
 five or ten minutes. and i arrow over to the table. while in the table i 
 only move up or down when i want to. and if i want to go to the top i just 
 press 0 because there are no twitter i d with numbers at the beginning and 
 so i'm automatically taken to the top. best of luck, max 
 
 
 Maxwell Ivey Jr.
 
 phone 979-215-1770
 
 Skype Maxwell Ivey
 
 twitter @maxwellivey
 
 as mr. midway
 
 www.midwaymarketplace.com http://www.midwaymarketplace.com/
 
 email maxw...@midwaymarketplace.com mailto:maxw...@midwaymarketplace.com
 
 as the blind blogger 
 
 www.theblindblogger.net http://www.theblindblogger.net/
 
 email just...@theblindblogger.net mailto:just...@theblindblogger.net
 
 
 
 On Apr 20, 2015, at 1:45 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 is Night Owl the only accessible twitter client for the Mac you know of?
 
 My issues with this app: 
 
 1. The timeline scrolls always to the top automatically and it seems to be 
 insignificant which settings I’ve set. I tried different settings but it 
 had no impact on this behaviour.
 2. I’m not able to find a support address except for twitter accounts of 
 the developers. But I’m not able to send direct messages to people who 
 don’t follow me and so there’s no way to reach them.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 All the best
 Jürgen
 
 
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Re: night owl question

[Danny Noonan]

It's also easy and quite helpful to set up hotspots to automatically say which 
tab your in and how many characters are left when writing tweets. Well, it was 
last time I played with it. I don't seem to have time for twitter any more. Dam 
RealWorld. smile

Danny:



On 16/06/2013, at 1:24 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Direct messages are in their own tab. Either cmd-right twice from the main 
 timeline tab, or press ctrl-3. Incidentally, mentions are one tab right of 
 the timeline, or ctrl-2, and, of course, the main timeline is ctrl-1. You 
 have other tabs, and can even make your own if you want to, though I have not 
 tried that yet.
 
 To view a conversation, move to a tweet and press cmd-3. This changes your 
 current timeline to show all messages in the conversation; hit cmd-1 to 
 return to normal. By the way, cmd-2 shows a user view, which is recent tweets 
 from the user.
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Re: night owl question

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Hi:
Thank you! Have you figured out how to search Twitter?
On Jun 15, 2013, at 10:24 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Direct messages are in their own tab. Either cmd-right twice from the main 
 timeline tab, or press ctrl-3. Incidentally, mentions are one tab right of 
 the timeline, or ctrl-2, and, of course, the main timeline is ctrl-1. You 
 have other tabs, and can even make your own if you want to, though I have not 
 tried that yet.
 
 To view a conversation, move to a tweet and press cmd-3. This changes your 
 current timeline to show all messages in the conversation; hit cmd-1 to 
 return to normal. By the way, cmd-2 shows a user view, which is recent tweets 
 from the user.
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 wrote:
 
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Re: night owl question

[Alex Hall]

Direct messages are in their own tab. Either cmd-right twice from the main 
timeline tab, or press ctrl-3. Incidentally, mentions are one tab right of the 
timeline, or ctrl-2, and, of course, the main timeline is ctrl-1. You have 
other tabs, and can even make your own if you want to, though I have not tried 
that yet.

To view a conversation, move to a tweet and press cmd-3. This changes your 
current timeline to show all messages in the conversation; hit cmd-1 to return 
to normal. By the way, cmd-2 shows a user view, which is recent tweets from the 
user.
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Re: Night Owl Twitter Client Keyboard Shortcut Help

[Chris Gilland]

Do you mean it misteriously changed your keyboard commands, or do you mean 
the devs took it upon themselves to change the keystrokes?  God I hoep the 
former!  BTW, just FYI, it's...


capital Y, o, r, u, Capital F, u, k, u, r, o, u.

YoruFukurou.

It's Japanese for Night Owl, in case anyone wonders where that reference 
comes from.  Not sure how to get you the exact kanji, sorry.


Chris.
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To: MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 6:54 PM
Subject: Night Owl Twitter Client Keyboard Shortcut Help



Hey all,

Sorry if this has been covered. I just notice Night Owl, pardon my
spelling Yourufiroo changed all of the keyboard shortcuts, so strange
as now I have to turn the caps lock on to use any of them. Is there
any way around this or a way to set your own defaults? I looked in the
preferences and couldn't find anything and tried setting one of my own
shortcuts in system information for the program but that didn't work
either. Anyone figure anything out? Thanks

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Re: Night Owl Twitter Client Keyboard Shortcut Help

[Brian Fischler]

I believe the dev changed it in the latest update, unless I some how
did something I am not aware of. For example it used to be to compose
a new tweet you just hit command N now it is command capital N, so if
you hit command N with the caps lock off nothing will happen even if
you try command shift N nothing happens you have to have caps lock on
and hit command N to compose the tweet. Maybe I did something by
accident as I figured the boards would be all over this change. Any
help is greatly appreciated

On Mar 26, 6:54 pm, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey all,

 Sorry if this has been covered. I just notice Night Owl, pardon my
 spelling Yourufiroo changed all of the keyboard shortcuts, so strange
 as now I have to turn the caps lock on to use any of them. Is there
 any way around this or a way to set your own defaults? I looked in the
 preferences and couldn't find anything and tried setting one of my own
 shortcuts in system information for the program but that didn't work
 either. Anyone figure anything out? Thanks

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Re: Night Owl Twitter Client Keyboard Shortcut Help

[Brian Fischler]

Hey, I just deleted the program and reinstalled it so now it is
working fine. So strange that the keyboard shortcuts all changed to
capital letters and the menu was even reading them that way, not sure
what I did but everything is working fine now.

On Mar 26, 6:54 pm, Brian Fischler blindga...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey all,

 Sorry if this has been covered. I just notice Night Owl, pardon my
 spelling Yourufiroo changed all of the keyboard shortcuts, so strange
 as now I have to turn the caps lock on to use any of them. Is there
 any way around this or a way to set your own defaults? I looked in the
 preferences and couldn't find anything and tried setting one of my own
 shortcuts in system information for the program but that didn't work
 either. Anyone figure anything out? Thanks

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