RE: Question about installing jaws on my Mac

2018-01-09 Thread David Griffith
I think you will find that these are  notthe the problems you expect.
Last year in the |UK at  least and I understand other  countries as well you 
did not have to actually physically attend conventions to take advantage of the 
 offers. They simply run during the the  period of the event and actually 
beyond  so you  could just order as normal during this window.
I, fore example,  ordered the Freedom Scienctific Open Book Software  and Pearl 
camera under the UK special offer  pricing during the Sight village  event in  
the UK even though I did not attend. I simply rang the UK distributor  whilst 
the event was  running.  I have in previous years bought  my SMA under similar 
conditions.
 
Secondly having a Pro jaws Licence does not preclude you from purchasing a SMA 
at reduced Home pricing. This is  precisely what I did. I had  a Pro licence 
whilst in work but now I am retired I  buy my SMA licences at the reduced Home 
rate.
As far as I am aware I have lost no Jaws  functionality as a result of this.
David Griffith

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

From: Eric Oyen
Sent: 08 January 2018 18:04
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about installing jaws on my Mac

well,
small problem… I would have to spend a great deal of money to get to the NFB 
convention. that would leave me with very little to spend on needed products 
(like jaws). I happen to use the Pro version here (it was included as part of 
my contract) and any further upgrades would be along that path. so, it *will* 
definitely cost me more, even if there is no significant difference between the 
pro and home versions. Even then, the retail cost (according to the freedom 
scientific website) is still just as expensive. So, even after the takeover, 
there hasn't been any real change to the pricing model. About the only thing 
that has changed is there is now less choice in what you get to use. There used 
to be Window Eyes, jaws, Thunder, System Access and NVDA. Now, there is jaws, 
System access, NVDA and possibly narrator (which I don't count as a serious 
screen reader with it's current limitations). So, even though VFO has a good 
business model, their motive is still profit.

Speaking of, which, if Freedom Scientific (VFO) were to drop the government 
business pricing model and simply sell to the blind public for about $120, they 
would be generating far more income. They wouldn't have to wait for government 
vouchers to be paid on, not have to negotiate onerous government contracts or 
jump through regulatory hoops.  They would go from selling through government 
agencies to (at most) several hundred vocational rehabilitation recipients per 
year, to many multiple orders of magnitude greater customers. $100 puts the 
price well within reach of even the most impoverished blind person. It would 
also cut down on piracy (the current price point encourages it in most foreign 
countries)

ok, at this point, I have wandered way off the reservation with regard to the 
topic. Now, as for installing jaws on a mac.. Assuming you have the correct 
version that works with your key, and you have all the bootcamp drivers 
installed, there shouldn't be any issues installing there Given what I have 
seen in this thread, it appears that it is either a version conflict, or 
something that the registration program reads changes between reboots.  In 
either case, that can be bad, as it will force the end user to use all the 
available registrations they have with the product. That will leave them 
without a working product within a very short time (and 40 minute demo mode is 
a real PITA).

-eric

On Jan 7, 2018, at 4:23 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:


Sorry, not quite. The Pro version costs about as much as JAWS always did in the 
past. The home version SMA is about $120. There is also a special pricing for 
the home version that you can get if your company buys enough of the Pro 
version or if you go to the NFB National convention. 

But still I have hard several times from VFO folks that the difference between 
Pro and Home is licensing rather than anything technical.
I believe you can even get  the remote client services for the home version 
which was not true for v15.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



On Jan 7, 2018, at 2:20 PM, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com> wrote:

well, so that is how VFO is trying to play the game. If you make money on a 
paid for product (like jaws), they demand what? A percentage or an extra fee?

btw, I am still on Jaws 16 here (the pro version) and there was no such clause 
in that user agreement then.
-eric

On Jan 6, 2018, at 5:18 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:


If you are installing a version of JAWS that is newer than what your SMA 
allows, then it will say so. The Professional and Home versions are identical 
except for the agreement to use for non-commercial pu

Re: Question about installing jaws on my Mac

2018-01-08 Thread Eric Oyen
well,
small problem… I would have to spend a great deal of money to get to the NFB 
convention. that would leave me with very little to spend on needed products 
(like jaws). I happen to use the Pro version here (it was included as part of 
my contract) and any further upgrades would be along that path. so, it *will* 
definitely cost me more, even if there is no significant difference between the 
pro and home versions. Even then, the retail cost (according to the freedom 
scientific website) is still just as expensive. So, even after the takeover, 
there hasn't been any real change to the pricing model. About the only thing 
that has changed is there is now less choice in what you get to use. There used 
to be Window Eyes, jaws, Thunder, System Access and NVDA. Now, there is jaws, 
System access, NVDA and possibly narrator (which I don't count as a serious 
screen reader with it's current limitations). So, even though VFO has a good 
business model, their motive is still profit.

Speaking of, which, if Freedom Scientific (VFO) were to drop the government 
business pricing model and simply sell to the blind public for about $120, they 
would be generating far more income. They wouldn't have to wait for government 
vouchers to be paid on, not have to negotiate onerous government contracts or 
jump through regulatory hoops.  They would go from selling through government 
agencies to (at most) several hundred vocational rehabilitation recipients per 
year, to many multiple orders of magnitude greater customers. $100 puts the 
price well within reach of even the most impoverished blind person. It would 
also cut down on piracy (the current price point encourages it in most foreign 
countries)

ok, at this point, I have wandered way off the reservation with regard to the 
topic. Now, as for installing jaws on a mac.. Assuming you have the correct 
version that works with your key, and you have all the bootcamp drivers 
installed, there shouldn't be any issues installing there Given what I have 
seen in this thread, it appears that it is either a version conflict, or 
something that the registration program reads changes between reboots.  In 
either case, that can be bad, as it will force the end user to use all the 
available registrations they have with the product. That will leave them 
without a working product within a very short time (and 40 minute demo mode is 
a real PITA).

-eric

On Jan 7, 2018, at 4:23 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:

> Sorry, not quite. The Pro version costs about as much as JAWS always did in 
> the past. The home version SMA is about $120. There is also a special pricing 
> for the home version that you can get if your company buys enough of the Pro 
> version or if you go to the NFB National convention. 
> 
> But still I have hard several times from VFO folks that the difference 
> between Pro and Home is licensing rather than anything technical.
> I believe you can even get  the remote client services for the home version 
> which was not true for v15.
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 7, 2018, at 2:20 PM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
>> 
>> well, so that is how VFO is trying to play the game. If you make money on a 
>> paid for product (like jaws), they demand what? A percentage or an extra fee?
>> 
>> btw, I am still on Jaws 16 here (the pro version) and there was no such 
>> clause in that user agreement then.
>> -eric
>> 
>> On Jan 6, 2018, at 5:18 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
>> 
>>> If you are installing a version of JAWS that is newer than what your SMA 
>>> allows, then it will say so. The Professional and Home versions are 
>>> identical except for the agreement to use for non-commercial purposes. 
>>> Essentially if you are making money off the computer that JAWS is running 
>>> on, VFO wants a bit of that money. There have been issues with JAWS 18 and 
>>> earlier where if you adjusted VM settings in any way you needed to 
>>> re-authorize the computer. Without the accompanying  text in the 
>>> authorizing dialog it is hard to tell exactly what went wrong.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>>> 
>>> Jonathan Cohn
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 6, 2018, at 5:09 AM, Brian Howerton  wrote:
 
 Yes I believe it is.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jan 6, 2018, at 4:56 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Is your jaws version the right one for the licence you have for jaws?
> 
> Jaws 2018 is different to jaws 18.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Howerton
> Sent: Saturday, 6 January 2018 9:59 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Question about installing jaws on my Mac
> 
> Hello folks,
> I installed windows 10 on my Mac and then installed jaws. After 
> installing jaws, I activated and 

Re: Question about installing jaws on my Mac

2018-01-07 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Sorry, not quite. The Pro version costs about as much as JAWS always did in the 
past. The home version SMA is about $120. There is also a special pricing for 
the home version that you can get if your company buys enough of the Pro 
version or if you go to the NFB National convention. 

But still I have hard several times from VFO folks that the difference between 
Pro and Home is licensing rather than anything technical.
I believe you can even get  the remote client services for the home version 
which was not true for v15.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Jan 7, 2018, at 2:20 PM, Eric Oyen  wrote:
> 
> well, so that is how VFO is trying to play the game. If you make money on a 
> paid for product (like jaws), they demand what? A percentage or an extra fee?
> 
> btw, I am still on Jaws 16 here (the pro version) and there was no such 
> clause in that user agreement then.
> -eric
> 
> On Jan 6, 2018, at 5:18 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
> 
>> If you are installing a version of JAWS that is newer than what your SMA 
>> allows, then it will say so. The Professional and Home versions are 
>> identical except for the agreement to use for non-commercial purposes. 
>> Essentially if you are making money off the computer that JAWS is running 
>> on, VFO wants a bit of that money. There have been issues with JAWS 18 and 
>> earlier where if you adjusted VM settings in any way you needed to 
>> re-authorize the computer. Without the accompanying  text in the authorizing 
>> dialog it is hard to tell exactly what went wrong.
>> 
>> 
>>  Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 6, 2018, at 5:09 AM, Brian Howerton >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes I believe it is.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jan 6, 2018, at 4:56 AM, Simon Fogarty > wrote:
 
 Is your jaws version the right one for the licence you have for jaws?
 
 Jaws 2018 is different to jaws 18.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 ] On Behalf Of Brian Howerton
 Sent: Saturday, 6 January 2018 9:59 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 
 Subject: Question about installing jaws on my Mac
 
 Hello folks,
 I installed windows 10 on my Mac and then installed jaws. After installing 
 jaws, I activated and everything went great, however after rebooting the 
 computer, jaws brings up the jaws activation dialog again. It has my jaws 
 authorization number in there again and it tells me activation was 
 successful, but it does this everytime. Any thoughts on why the activation 
 is not holding? Looks like jaws professional is being installed and not 
 the home version. But I didn’t see a separate installer for that version. 
 A few years ago I went ahead and switched my SMA to the home one vbut jaws 
 professional is being installed here. Wonder if that is why the activation 
 window keeps coming up. Any thoughts would be welcome.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: Question about installing jaws on my Mac

2018-01-07 Thread Eric Oyen
well, so that is how VFO is trying to play the game. If you make money on a 
paid for product (like jaws), they demand what? A percentage or an extra fee?

btw, I am still on Jaws 16 here (the pro version) and there was no such clause 
in that user agreement then.
-eric

On Jan 6, 2018, at 5:18 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:

> If you are installing a version of JAWS that is newer than what your SMA 
> allows, then it will say so. The Professional and Home versions are identical 
> except for the agreement to use for non-commercial purposes. Essentially if 
> you are making money off the computer that JAWS is running on, VFO wants a 
> bit of that money. There have been issues with JAWS 18 and earlier where if 
> you adjusted VM settings in any way you needed to re-authorize the computer. 
> Without the accompanying  text in the authorizing dialog it is hard to tell 
> exactly what went wrong.
> 
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 6, 2018, at 5:09 AM, Brian Howerton  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes I believe it is.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 6, 2018, at 4:56 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is your jaws version the right one for the licence you have for jaws?
>>> 
>>> Jaws 2018 is different to jaws 18.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Howerton
>>> Sent: Saturday, 6 January 2018 9:59 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Question about installing jaws on my Mac
>>> 
>>> Hello folks,
>>> I installed windows 10 on my Mac and then installed jaws. After installing 
>>> jaws, I activated and everything went great, however after rebooting the 
>>> computer, jaws brings up the jaws activation dialog again. It has my jaws 
>>> authorization number in there again and it tells me activation was 
>>> successful, but it does this everytime. Any thoughts on why the activation 
>>> is not holding? Looks like jaws professional is being installed and not the 
>>> home version. But I didn’t see a separate installer for that version. A few 
>>> years ago I went ahead and switched my SMA to the home one vbut jaws 
>>> professional is being installed here. Wonder if that is why the activation 
>>> window keeps coming up. Any thoughts would be welcome.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
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Re: Question about installing jaws on my Mac

2018-01-07 Thread Georgina Joyce
Hello,

I have had exactly the same problem. I haven’t found a solution in fact, 
yesterday I used bootcamp to remove the windows partition and start again. This 
time I put NVDA on. Because I did make the mistake of using 2018 and not sure 
if I was or not licensed to use that version.

Because I struggled to log into my Windows partition I lost speech. Using 
Seeing AI I could tell I was on a change password screen. A sighted friend got 
me to the desktop. He had to remove the tick to mute the audio. Upon reboot the 
audio was muted again. I strongly suspect it was jaws muting the audio, what a 
mess. I will check to see what version of jaws cane with my El Braille summer 
of last year and try again. When I’ve got a few more hours of my life I don’t 
mind waisting.

Like you twice or three times I got the successful registration screen. I think 
I did it 3 times. So haven’t got a clue whether I have any activations or not.

Please report to the list if you find the solution. I guess I should report it 
as a bug. But life is just too short.

Gena

Braille is a reading and writing language that all blind people should learn to 
use.

Michael Hingson 2011.

> On 7 Jan 2018, at 00:18, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> If you are installing a version of JAWS that is newer than what your SMA 
> allows, then it will say so. The Professional and Home versions are identical 
> except for the agreement to use for non-commercial purposes. Essentially if 
> you are making money off the computer that JAWS is running on, VFO wants a 
> bit of that money. There have been issues with JAWS 18 and earlier where if 
> you adjusted VM settings in any way you needed to re-authorize the computer. 
> Without the accompanying  text in the authorizing dialog it is hard to tell 
> exactly what went wrong.
> 
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 6, 2018, at 5:09 AM, Brian Howerton > > wrote:
>> 
>> Yes I believe it is.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 6, 2018, at 4:56 AM, Simon Fogarty >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is your jaws version the right one for the licence you have for jaws?
>>> 
>>> Jaws 2018 is different to jaws 18.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>  
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> ] On Behalf Of Brian Howerton
>>> Sent: Saturday, 6 January 2018 9:59 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Question about installing jaws on my Mac
>>> 
>>> Hello folks,
>>> I installed windows 10 on my Mac and then installed jaws. After installing 
>>> jaws, I activated and everything went great, however after rebooting the 
>>> computer, jaws brings up the jaws activation dialog again. It has my jaws 
>>> authorization number in there again and it tells me activation was 
>>> successful, but it does this everytime. Any thoughts on why the activation 
>>> is not holding? Looks like jaws professional is being installed and not the 
>>> home version. But I didn’t see a separate installer for that version. A few 
>>> years ago I went ahead and switched my SMA to the home one vbut jaws 
>>> professional is being installed here. Wonder if that is why the activation 
>>> window keeps coming up. Any thoughts would be welcome.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
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Re: Question about installing jaws on my Mac

2018-01-06 Thread Jonathan Cohn
If you are installing a version of JAWS that is newer than what your SMA 
allows, then it will say so. The Professional and Home versions are identical 
except for the agreement to use for non-commercial purposes. Essentially if you 
are making money off the computer that JAWS is running on, VFO wants a bit of 
that money. There have been issues with JAWS 18 and earlier where if you 
adjusted VM settings in any way you needed to re-authorize the computer. 
Without the accompanying  text in the authorizing dialog it is hard to tell 
exactly what went wrong.


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Jan 6, 2018, at 5:09 AM, Brian Howerton  wrote:
> 
> Yes I believe it is.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 6, 2018, at 4:56 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Is your jaws version the right one for the licence you have for jaws?
>> 
>> Jaws 2018 is different to jaws 18.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Howerton
>> Sent: Saturday, 6 January 2018 9:59 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Question about installing jaws on my Mac
>> 
>> Hello folks,
>> I installed windows 10 on my Mac and then installed jaws. After installing 
>> jaws, I activated and everything went great, however after rebooting the 
>> computer, jaws brings up the jaws activation dialog again. It has my jaws 
>> authorization number in there again and it tells me activation was 
>> successful, but it does this everytime. Any thoughts on why the activation 
>> is not holding? Looks like jaws professional is being installed and not the 
>> home version. But I didn’t see a separate installer for that version. A few 
>> years ago I went ahead and switched my SMA to the home one vbut jaws 
>> professional is being installed here. Wonder if that is why the activation 
>> window keeps coming up. Any thoughts would be welcome.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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RE: Question about installing jaws on my Mac

2018-01-06 Thread ilovecountrymusic483
Also, make sure that your authorized for 2018 and that you have any keys.  If 
not then you will have to contact vfo and have them reset your lisence kreys 
for it to work.  Go to fsactivvate.com and from there you should be able to see 
how many activationas are left and reset if need be.

Matthew



-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Simon Fogarty
Sent: Saturday, January 6, 2018 3:06 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about installing jaws on my Mac

Try installing an earlier version like jaws 17 or 18 and see if one of the 
older versions works with your key.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 6/01/2018, at 11:09 PM, Brian Howerton <bshowert...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes I believe it is.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 6, 2018, at 4:56 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Is your jaws version the right one for the licence you have for jaws?
>> 
>> Jaws 2018 is different to jaws 18.
>> 
>> 
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>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Howerton
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>> Subject: Question about installing jaws on my Mac
>> 
>> Hello folks,
>> I installed windows 10 on my Mac and then installed jaws. After installing 
>> jaws, I activated and everything went great, however after rebooting the 
>> computer, jaws brings up the jaws activation dialog again. It has my jaws 
>> authorization number in there again and it tells me activation was 
>> successful, but it does this everytime. Any thoughts on why the activation 
>> is not holding? Looks like jaws professional is being installed and not the 
>> home version. But I didn’t see a separate installer for that version. A few 
>> years ago I went ahead and switched my SMA to the home one vbut jaws 
>> professional is being installed here. Wonder if that is why the activation 
>> window keeps coming up. Any thoughts would be welcome.
>> 
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Re: Question about installing jaws on my Mac

2018-01-06 Thread Simon Fogarty
Try installing an earlier version like jaws 17 or 18 and see if one of the 
older versions works with your key.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 6/01/2018, at 11:09 PM, Brian Howerton  wrote:
> 
> Yes I believe it is.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 6, 2018, at 4:56 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Is your jaws version the right one for the licence you have for jaws?
>> 
>> Jaws 2018 is different to jaws 18.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Howerton
>> Sent: Saturday, 6 January 2018 9:59 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Question about installing jaws on my Mac
>> 
>> Hello folks,
>> I installed windows 10 on my Mac and then installed jaws. After installing 
>> jaws, I activated and everything went great, however after rebooting the 
>> computer, jaws brings up the jaws activation dialog again. It has my jaws 
>> authorization number in there again and it tells me activation was 
>> successful, but it does this everytime. Any thoughts on why the activation 
>> is not holding? Looks like jaws professional is being installed and not the 
>> home version. But I didn’t see a separate installer for that version. A few 
>> years ago I went ahead and switched my SMA to the home one vbut jaws 
>> professional is being installed here. Wonder if that is why the activation 
>> window keeps coming up. Any thoughts would be welcome.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Question about installing jaws on my Mac

2018-01-06 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Brian,

While this will not resolve your current dilemma, I suggest that you purchase a 
dongle for your copy of Jaws.  The dongle works in conjunction with your SMA so 
you can use it whenever you are on a new computer and don't want to use any of 
your SMA license keys.  

Mark

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Brian Howerton
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 12:59 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question about installing jaws on my Mac

Hello folks,
I installed windows 10 on my Mac and then installed jaws. After installing 
jaws, I activated and everything went great, however after rebooting the 
computer, jaws brings up the jaws activation dialog again. It has my jaws 
authorization number in there again and it tells me activation was successful, 
but it does this everytime. Any thoughts on why the activation is not holding? 
Looks like jaws professional is being installed and not the home version. But I 
didn’t see a separate installer for that version. A few years ago I went ahead 
and switched my SMA to the home one vbut jaws professional is being installed 
here. Wonder if that is why the activation window keeps coming up. Any thoughts 
would be welcome.

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Re: Question about installing jaws on my Mac

2018-01-06 Thread Brian Howerton
Yes I believe it is.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 6, 2018, at 4:56 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Is your jaws version the right one for the licence you have for jaws?
> 
> Jaws 2018 is different to jaws 18.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Howerton
> Sent: Saturday, 6 January 2018 9:59 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Question about installing jaws on my Mac
> 
> Hello folks,
> I installed windows 10 on my Mac and then installed jaws. After installing 
> jaws, I activated and everything went great, however after rebooting the 
> computer, jaws brings up the jaws activation dialog again. It has my jaws 
> authorization number in there again and it tells me activation was 
> successful, but it does this everytime. Any thoughts on why the activation is 
> not holding? Looks like jaws professional is being installed and not the home 
> version. But I didn’t see a separate installer for that version. A few years 
> ago I went ahead and switched my SMA to the home one vbut jaws professional 
> is being installed here. Wonder if that is why the activation window keeps 
> coming up. Any thoughts would be welcome.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Question about installing jaws on my Mac

2018-01-06 Thread Simon Fogarty
Is your jaws version the right one for the licence you have for jaws?

 Jaws 2018 is different to jaws 18.



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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Brian Howerton
Sent: Saturday, 6 January 2018 9:59 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question about installing jaws on my Mac

Hello folks,
I installed windows 10 on my Mac and then installed jaws. After installing 
jaws, I activated and everything went great, however after rebooting the 
computer, jaws brings up the jaws activation dialog again. It has my jaws 
authorization number in there again and it tells me activation was successful, 
but it does this everytime. Any thoughts on why the activation is not holding? 
Looks like jaws professional is being installed and not the home version. But I 
didn’t see a separate installer for that version. A few years ago I went ahead 
and switched my SMA to the home one vbut jaws professional is being installed 
here. Wonder if that is why the activation window keeps coming up. Any thoughts 
would be welcome.

Sent from my iPhone

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