Re: Using your air in public.

2012-03-23 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
an awful lot, but... the tangible keyboard for one makes a notable difference.


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On 23 Mar 2012, at 00:06, Cheree Heppe wrote:

Cheree Heppe here:
What can you do on the Air that can't be done on the IPhone?

Regards,
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Re: Using your air in public.

2012-03-23 Thread Lewis Alexander
the macbook air can handle applications that the iphone can't, the obvious 
keyboard and USB interfaces also make a huge difference, CPU, RAM and storage 
capacity also make a considerable difference. what you have to consider is what 
exactly you want to achieve with the product?

smiling as I write this.

lew

On 23 Mar 2012, at 20:40, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:

 an awful lot, but... the tangible keyboard for one makes a notable difference.
 
 
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 On 23 Mar 2012, at 00:06, Cheree Heppe wrote:
 
 Cheree Heppe here:
 What can you do on the Air that can't be done on the IPhone?
 
 Regards,
 Cheree Heppe
 
 
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Re: Using your air in public.

2012-03-23 Thread Cheree Heppe
Cheree heppe here:
It won't b long until I get to find out for myself.

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On 23/03/2012, at 13:56, Lewis Alexander freemacsforthebl...@gmail.com wrote:

 the macbook air can handle applications that the iphone can't, the obvious 
 keyboard and USB interfaces also make a huge difference, CPU, RAM and storage 
 capacity also make a considerable difference. what you have to consider is 
 what exactly you want to achieve with the product?
 
 smiling as I write this.
 
 lew
 
 On 23 Mar 2012, at 20:40, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:
 
 an awful lot, but... the tangible keyboard for one makes a notable 
 difference.
 
 
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 On 23 Mar 2012, at 00:06, Cheree Heppe wrote:
 
 Cheree Heppe here:
 What can you do on the Air that can't be done on the IPhone?
 
 Regards,
 Cheree Heppe
 
 
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Re: Using your air in public.

2012-03-23 Thread Ricardo Walker
Are you serious?  Its faster, has USB ports, supports flash, has a physical 
keyboard, a larger screen, Runs Mac OSX apps, etc, etc, etc.  Now, that doesn't 
mean its better than an iPs product but, you really are compairing apples to 
oranges here.

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On Mar 22, 2012, at 8:06 PM, Cheree Heppe che...@dogsc4me.com wrote:

 Cheree Heppe here:
 What can you do on the Air that can't be done on the IPhone?
 
 Regards,
 Cheree Heppe
 
 
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Re: Using your air in public.

2012-03-22 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
Vivianna,

Personally I have an Air, the 11in model, as well as an iPad and iPhone.

I take my Air with me anywhere where I am heading on business, I do use it on 
the train and take no specific measures to stop it being stolen, other than of 
course not leaving it unattended. I do not, and would not get it out in a 
coffee shop or somewhere like that. I do get it out in more up market wine bars 
if needs be, but not say a Star Bucks.

If I am needing to surf the net or e-mail in somewhere like that, or the park 
etc, I use my iPhone.

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On 14 Mar 2012, at 19:45, Vivianna wrote:

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Re: Using your air in public.

2012-03-22 Thread Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
Vivianna,

Can I ask you what makes you want to use your laptop in such a public location? 
you do not see that many folk doing such things, unless they are in a small 
group of people all doing it.. say a small group of office workers etc.

but, I've seen very few individuals on their own doing it.

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On 14 Mar 2012, at 20:14, Vivianna wrote:

Hi all,
i think you misunderstood me.  yes, i have a case for my air and, i also carry 
it in a backpack.  what is my concern is having it stolen right out of my 
hands.  say, for example, that i am sitting outside at a coffee shop and typing 
away on the computer with my earbuds in and someone just takes the machine and 
runs off with it.  this is my concern.  even if i have my hands on it they can 
still grab it and run.
are others afraid of such happening?  am i being to paranoid?  what do sighted 
folks do with their expensive machines?  do they just use them and not worry 
about it?  
i am off to check out these links now.  thanks a lot.
Vivianna
On Mar 14, 2012, at 3:01 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

 I bought a backpack so when I'm not using my MacBook I just pop it in there. 
 If I usually sling it over one shoulder but if I need both hands I can put it 
 on all the way. In other words, I don't lock it down, I keep the laptop with 
 me. If you must lock it then you might want one of these:
 
 http://www.macworld.com/article/1158830/macbook_air_security_lock.html
 
 where you attach a rigid case to the MacBook Air and that case has a standard 
 lock slot. You could also check into iAlertU which uses the MacBook's motion 
 sensors to trigger an alarm and notify you on your iPhone etc.
 
 http://ialertu.sourceforge.net/
 
 CB
 
 On 3/14/12 3:51 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I personally just put my macbook in my book bag when I travel.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Mar 14, 2012, at 3:45 PM, Viviannairish...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 so, i went out and bought myself this super cool, super fast macbook air.  
 now, the reason that i bought this fine machine is because of it's small 
 size and portability.  well, now that spring is here, i am wanting to take 
 it out with me to coffee shops etc.  i live in a city and am concerned 
 about the safety of using such a machine in an outdoor public setting.  i 
 went to the mac online store and looked up the kensington lock and, alas, 
 it does not work with the air.
 so, here's my question to you all.
 do you all take your portable machines out with you?  and, if you do, what 
 sort of security measures, if any, do you take?  have any of you had 
 problems with having your computers stolen? and, if so, what did you do?  
 did you get it back?
 i would be extremely upset if i had my machine stolen on one hand yet, on 
 the other hand, i do not want to be restricted to using it only in the 
 safety of my own home.  if i wanted to stay at home, i would have purchased 
 the less costly mini.
 i look forward to hearing your experiences and suggestions.
 thanks much.
 Vivianna
 
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Re: Using your air in public.

2012-03-22 Thread Lewis Alexander
sorry to chime in here but I'm starting to find this bit of concern frustrating.

the whole purpose of a laptop is taking it on the road, to any location. the 
macbook air lends itself perfectly, especially for networking, etc. so the 
whole point of going to an internet cafe or a coffee shop with internet 
services available has a great benefit. otherwise, the companies offering the 
service would be wasting their time and money doing so.

a very simple solution to securing your notebook computer, whether apple or 
windows based system is a kensington security lock which simply chains to a 
solid leg or structure and locks to the system with a key lock.

I have used these products before and believe me, they make sense for security.

I don't take my macbook pro out on the road unless absolutely necessary, 
primarily because it's a tailored model which cost me over £2500 and is my 
office / technical system.. it's fully insured, etc but for on the road use, 
I'd take out an older mac or what was once my hp business notebook 
unfortunately stolen while on the road. (thug swept my case off my shoulder)

it's up to you whether you take your notebook on the road with you. as long as 
you have some security on your system to prevent users logging in, etc and a 
kensington cable lock, you're fairly well OK.

the whole concept of a laptop is portability. we're not just in business 
anymore, laptops are used by general consumers as well. unlike the late 80's 
and early / mid 90s where laptops cost an absolute fortune and were business 
based systems.

lew

On 22 Mar 2012, at 16:12, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:

 Vivianna,
 
 Can I ask you what makes you want to use your laptop in such a public 
 location? you do not see that many folk doing such things, unless they are in 
 a small group of people all doing it.. say a small group of office workers 
 etc.
 
 but, I've seen very few individuals on their own doing it.
 
 Regards,
 
 Neil Barnfather
 
 Talks List Administrator
 Twitter @neilbarnfather
 
 TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your
 accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com
 
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 Phone: - +44  844 999 4199
 
 
 
 On 14 Mar 2012, at 20:14, Vivianna wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 i think you misunderstood me.  yes, i have a case for my air and, i also 
 carry it in a backpack.  what is my concern is having it stolen right out of 
 my hands.  say, for example, that i am sitting outside at a coffee shop and 
 typing away on the computer with my earbuds in and someone just takes the 
 machine and runs off with it.  this is my concern.  even if i have my hands 
 on it they can still grab it and run.
 are others afraid of such happening?  am i being to paranoid?  what do 
 sighted folks do with their expensive machines?  do they just use them and 
 not worry about it?  
 i am off to check out these links now.  thanks a lot.
 Vivianna
 On Mar 14, 2012, at 3:01 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
 
 I bought a backpack so when I'm not using my MacBook I just pop it in there. 
 If I usually sling it over one shoulder but if I need both hands I can put 
 it on all the way. In other words, I don't lock it down, I keep the laptop 
 with me. If you must lock it then you might want one of these:
 
 http://www.macworld.com/article/1158830/macbook_air_security_lock.html
 
 where you attach a rigid case to the MacBook Air and that case has a 
 standard lock slot. You could also check into iAlertU which uses the 
 MacBook's motion sensors to trigger an alarm and notify you on your iPhone 
 etc.
 
 http://ialertu.sourceforge.net/
 
 CB
 
 On 3/14/12 3:51 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I personally just put my macbook in my book bag when I travel.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Mar 14, 2012, at 3:45 PM, Viviannairish...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 so, i went out and bought myself this super cool, super fast macbook air.  
 now, the reason that i bought this fine machine is because of it's small 
 size and portability.  well, now that spring is here, i am wanting to take 
 it out with me to coffee shops etc.  i live in a city and am concerned 
 about the safety of using such a machine in an outdoor public setting.  i 
 went to the mac online store and looked up the kensington lock and, alas, 
 it does not work with the air.
 so, here's my question to you all.
 do you all take your portable machines out with you?  and, if you do, what 
 sort of security measures, if any, do you take?  have any of you had 
 problems with having your computers stolen? and, if so, what did you do?  
 did you get it back?
 i would be extremely upset if i had my machine stolen on one hand yet, on 
 the other hand, i do not want to be restricted to using it only in the 
 safety of my own home.  if i wanted to stay at home, i would have 
 purchased the less costly mini.
 i look forward to 

Re: Using your air in public.

2012-03-22 Thread Vivianna
um, wow.  here loads of folks sit at coffee shops with their computers, iPads, 
and iPhones.  i can not use the kensington lock on the air but i have had other 
suggestions and observations from folks on this list.  if it's a nice sunny 
summer day and i want to hang out at a coffee shop and do stuff online then, i 
will be taking the air with me.  there's just lots of stuff that i can not do 
on my iPhone.  
Vivianna
On Mar 22, 2012, at 11:09 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:

 Vivianna,
 
 Personally I have an Air, the 11in model, as well as an iPad and iPhone.
 
 I take my Air with me anywhere where I am heading on business, I do use it on 
 the train and take no specific measures to stop it being stolen, other than 
 of course not leaving it unattended. I do not, and would not get it out in a 
 coffee shop or somewhere like that. I do get it out in more up market wine 
 bars if needs be, but not say a Star Bucks.
 
 If I am needing to surf the net or e-mail in somewhere like that, or the park 
 etc, I use my iPhone.
 
 Regards,
 
 Neil Barnfather
 
 Talks List Administrator
 Twitter @neilbarnfather
 
 TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, for all your
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 Phone: - +44  844 999 4199
 
 
 
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Re: Using your air in public.

2012-03-22 Thread Cheree Heppe
Cheree Heppe here:
What can you do on the Air that can't be done on the IPhone?

Regards,
Cheree Heppe


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Re: Using your air in public.

2012-03-15 Thread Esther
Hi Vivianna, Alex, Ricardo, Chris, Jane, Garth, Gigi, Emrah, Kawal, and Marc,

First off, there is a Find My Mac program that is like Find My iPhone for 
iOS devices.  You can register your machine for it if you are running Lion, and 
also have enabled iCloud services.  Since I've only migrated to Lion about a 
month ago, and still need to keep my MobileMe services active for a while more, 
I can't speak directly about this program.  However, I can run Find My iPhone 
even from the MobileMe pages with VoiceOver.  It's not as simple as it was with 
VoiceOver and Safari not upgraded under Snow Leopard, but it's workable for me, 
so I assume this is also possible for Find My Mac.  (The truly bizarre aspect 
of this is how much easier it was to use Find My iPhone with VoiceOver on 
version of Leopard -- two versions back -- on a system with OS X 10.5.8 and the 
latest version of Safari at that time.  I switched to one of these machines 
just to contrast the Find My iPhone web experience with VoiceOver, latest 
Safari, and Lion.) 

Here's a link to an old New York Times article about Find My Mac from last 
November:
http://gadgetwise.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/25/using-apples-find-my-mac-feature/
Use Command-Shift-R to read this in Safari Reader.

Secondly, I highly recommend that everyone register their Apple products using 
the MySupportProfile page:
https://supportprofile.apple.com/MySupportProfile.do

This is a personal service that has been around for at least 8 years, and is 
designed as a way for customers to keep track of their Apple products.  It's 
not the same as warranty registration, although I think you can register 
products through the MySupportProfile page.  This is meant to be a convenient 
record for you, the customer, so you can input this information at any time.  
Although it's obviously easiest to put in this information soon after purchase. 
 You log in with your Apple ID and enter the serial numbers for products you 
own.  Once this is in place, you have a permanent record of your serial numbers 
and product descriptions all in one place.  Items can include your Mac 
computers, iPhones, Apple TVs, AIrport Express units, Time Capsules, etc.  What 
makes this page useful, in addition to keeping a record of your serial numbers, 
is that there are related support resources. So you can read about the 
technical specifications for your model of device, find out whether there are 
firmware updates, find related articles, and also track service case issues.  
If you give your Mac or iOS device to a relative, or sell it, you can remove 
the item from the devices that are registered to you, but you can also provide 
them with details about the exact product they are getting from you.  And, if 
worst comes to worst, and one of your items is misplaced or stolen, you have an 
accurate record of the serial number and the detailed product description.

Understand that the MySupportProfile page is not meant to be a way to make 
Apple track lost or stolen items.  It's a convenient resource for you, the 
user.  The only information that gets added to the pages are for devices whose 
serial numbers you add.  You can find these in your purchase receipts from 
Apple, or by using the About this Mac entry of the Apple menu. (VO-M or 
Control-F2 to the Apple menu, arrow down to About this Mac, and Navigate with 
VO-Right arrow to the Version number (e.g. 10.7.3), then VO-Space to cycle 
through the build to the serial number.  You can copy the last phrase to the 
clipboard with VO-Shift-C, then paste in information anywhere with Command-V.)  
For those of you using QuickNav, just press Right arrow instead of VO-Right 
arrow, and select by simultaneously pressing Up and Down arrow keys instead of 
using VO-Space.  And for those of you using TrackPad Commander, use a 
two-finger double tap near the top of your TrackPad to move to the Apple menu 
on the menu bar, flick down into to the submenu, then flick down again to 
About this Mac and double tap.  In the About this Mac window, flick right 
to the OS version number and double tap until you cycle through to the serial 
number,  Then use VO-Shift-C to copy the serial number information to the 
clipboard, and paste with Command-V.

Keep a bookmark set to the MySupportProfile page for easy access.  At 
present, MySupportProfile supports entries from the US and Canada, the UK, 
Germany, Italy, France, and Spain.

And in answer to Marc's question, you can use FileVault to encrypt your disk.  
Here's a link to an Anandtech article about FileVault in Lion.  Again, use 
Command-Shift-R for Safari Reader:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4485/back-to-the-mac-os-x-107-lion-review/17

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther


On Mar 14, 2012, at 1:16 PM, Marc Sutton wrote:

 I am wondering what you use for data encryption. That's more my concern. If 
 someone swipes my mba then they have a lot of data. Are there vo friendly 
 encryption programs out there?
 Marc
 
 On Mar 14, 2012, at 4:07 

Re: Using your air in public.

2012-03-15 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Thank you very much esther I did not know about the profile and will register 
my products.

Kawal.

On 15 Mar 2012, at 08:08 PM, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi Vivianna, Alex, Ricardo, Chris, Jane, Garth, Gigi, Emrah, Kawal, and Marc,
 
 First off, there is a Find My Mac program that is like Find My iPhone for 
 iOS devices.  You can register your machine for it if you are running Lion, 
 and also have enabled iCloud services.  Since I've only migrated to Lion 
 about a month ago, and still need to keep my MobileMe services active for a 
 while more, I can't speak directly about this program.  However, I can run 
 Find My iPhone even from the MobileMe pages with VoiceOver.  It's not as 
 simple as it was with VoiceOver and Safari not upgraded under Snow Leopard, 
 but it's workable for me, so I assume this is also possible for Find My 
 Mac.  (The truly bizarre aspect of this is how much easier it was to use 
 Find My iPhone with VoiceOver on version of Leopard -- two versions back -- 
 on a system with OS X 10.5.8 and the latest version of Safari at that time.  
 I switched to one of these machines just to contrast the Find My iPhone web 
 experience with VoiceOver, latest Safari, and Lion.) 
 
 Here's a link to an old New York Times article about Find My Mac from last 
 November:
 http://gadgetwise.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/25/using-apples-find-my-mac-feature/
 Use Command-Shift-R to read this in Safari Reader.
 
 Secondly, I highly recommend that everyone register their Apple products 
 using the MySupportProfile page:
 https://supportprofile.apple.com/MySupportProfile.do
 
 This is a personal service that has been around for at least 8 years, and is 
 designed as a way for customers to keep track of their Apple products.  It's 
 not the same as warranty registration, although I think you can register 
 products through the MySupportProfile page.  This is meant to be a convenient 
 record for you, the customer, so you can input this information at any time.  
 Although it's obviously easiest to put in this information soon after 
 purchase.  You log in with your Apple ID and enter the serial numbers for 
 products you own.  Once this is in place, you have a permanent record of your 
 serial numbers and product descriptions all in one place.  Items can include 
 your Mac computers, iPhones, Apple TVs, AIrport Express units, Time Capsules, 
 etc.  What makes this page useful, in addition to keeping a record of your 
 serial numbers, is that there are related support resources. So you can read 
 about the technical specifications for your model of device, find out whether 
 there are firmware updates, find related articles, and also track service 
 case issues.  If you give your Mac or iOS device to a relative, or sell it, 
 you can remove the item from the devices that are registered to you, but you 
 can also provide them with details about the exact product they are getting 
 from you.  And, if worst comes to worst, and one of your items is misplaced 
 or stolen, you have an accurate record of the serial number and the detailed 
 product description.
 
 Understand that the MySupportProfile page is not meant to be a way to make 
 Apple track lost or stolen items.  It's a convenient resource for you, the 
 user.  The only information that gets added to the pages are for devices 
 whose serial numbers you add.  You can find these in your purchase receipts 
 from Apple, or by using the About this Mac entry of the Apple menu. (VO-M 
 or Control-F2 to the Apple menu, arrow down to About this Mac, and Navigate 
 with VO-Right arrow to the Version number (e.g. 10.7.3), then VO-Space to 
 cycle through the build to the serial number.  You can copy the last phrase 
 to the clipboard with VO-Shift-C, then paste in information anywhere with 
 Command-V.)  For those of you using QuickNav, just press Right arrow instead 
 of VO-Right arrow, and select by simultaneously pressing Up and Down arrow 
 keys instead of using VO-Space.  And for those of you using TrackPad 
 Commander, use a two-finger double tap near the top of your TrackPad to move 
 to the Apple menu on the menu bar, flick down into to the submenu, then flick 
 down again to About this Mac and double tap.  In the About this Mac 
 window, flick right to the OS version number and double tap until you cycle 
 through to the serial number,  Then use VO-Shift-C to copy the serial number 
 information to the clipboard, and paste with Command-V.
 
 Keep a bookmark set to the MySupportProfile page for easy access.  At 
 present, MySupportProfile supports entries from the US and Canada, the UK, 
 Germany, Italy, France, and Spain.
 
 And in answer to Marc's question, you can use FileVault to encrypt your disk. 
  Here's a link to an Anandtech article about FileVault in Lion.  Again, use 
 Command-Shift-R for Safari Reader:
 http://www.anandtech.com/show/4485/back-to-the-mac-os-x-107-lion-review/17
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 
 On Mar 14, 2012, at 1:16 PM, 

Re: Using your air in public.

2012-03-14 Thread Alex Hall
Well, I don't have an air, but they are so small and light you could
just get a little case to wear across your body. When the laptop is
not in use, toss it in the case; when it is, you will have your hands
on it anyway, so no problem. This way, when you aren't using it, it
will be tucked away in a case that is against your side so you know
what is happening with it. Just my thoughts.

On 3/14/12, Vivianna irish...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,
 so, i went out and bought myself this super cool, super fast macbook air.
 now, the reason that i bought this fine machine is because of it's small
 size and portability.  well, now that spring is here, i am wanting to take
 it out with me to coffee shops etc.  i live in a city and am concerned about
 the safety of using such a machine in an outdoor public setting.  i went to
 the mac online store and looked up the kensington lock and, alas, it does
 not work with the air.
 so, here's my question to you all.
 do you all take your portable machines out with you?  and, if you do, what
 sort of security measures, if any, do you take?  have any of you had
 problems with having your computers stolen? and, if so, what did you do?
 did you get it back?
 i would be extremely upset if i had my machine stolen on one hand yet, on
 the other hand, i do not want to be restricted to using it only in the
 safety of my own home.  if i wanted to stay at home, i would have purchased
 the less costly mini.
 i look forward to hearing your experiences and suggestions.
 thanks much.
 Vivianna

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Re: Using your air in public.

2012-03-14 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

I personally just put my macbook in my book bag when I travel.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Mar 14, 2012, at 3:45 PM, Vivianna irish...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 so, i went out and bought myself this super cool, super fast macbook air.  
 now, the reason that i bought this fine machine is because of it's small size 
 and portability.  well, now that spring is here, i am wanting to take it out 
 with me to coffee shops etc.  i live in a city and am concerned about the 
 safety of using such a machine in an outdoor public setting.  i went to the 
 mac online store and looked up the kensington lock and, alas, it does not 
 work with the air.
 so, here's my question to you all.
 do you all take your portable machines out with you?  and, if you do, what 
 sort of security measures, if any, do you take?  have any of you had problems 
 with having your computers stolen? and, if so, what did you do?  did you get 
 it back?
 i would be extremely upset if i had my machine stolen on one hand yet, on the 
 other hand, i do not want to be restricted to using it only in the safety of 
 my own home.  if i wanted to stay at home, i would have purchased the less 
 costly mini.
 i look forward to hearing your experiences and suggestions.
 thanks much.
 Vivianna
 
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Re: Using your air in public.

2012-03-14 Thread Chris Blouch
I bought a backpack so when I'm not using my MacBook I just pop it in 
there. If I usually sling it over one shoulder but if I need both hands 
I can put it on all the way. In other words, I don't lock it down, I 
keep the laptop with me. If you must lock it then you might want one of 
these:


http://www.macworld.com/article/1158830/macbook_air_security_lock.html

where you attach a rigid case to the MacBook Air and that case has a 
standard lock slot. You could also check into iAlertU which uses the 
MacBook's motion sensors to trigger an alarm and notify you on your 
iPhone etc.


http://ialertu.sourceforge.net/

CB

On 3/14/12 3:51 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

Hi,

I personally just put my macbook in my book bag when I travel.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Mar 14, 2012, at 3:45 PM, Viviannairish...@gmail.com  wrote:


Hi all,
so, i went out and bought myself this super cool, super fast macbook air.  now, 
the reason that i bought this fine machine is because of it's small size and 
portability.  well, now that spring is here, i am wanting to take it out with 
me to coffee shops etc.  i live in a city and am concerned about the safety of 
using such a machine in an outdoor public setting.  i went to the mac online 
store and looked up the kensington lock and, alas, it does not work with the 
air.
so, here's my question to you all.
do you all take your portable machines out with you?  and, if you do, what sort 
of security measures, if any, do you take?  have any of you had problems with 
having your computers stolen? and, if so, what did you do?  did you get it back?
i would be extremely upset if i had my machine stolen on one hand yet, on the 
other hand, i do not want to be restricted to using it only in the safety of my 
own home.  if i wanted to stay at home, i would have purchased the less costly 
mini.
i look forward to hearing your experiences and suggestions.
thanks much.
Vivianna

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Re: Using your air in public.

2012-03-14 Thread Vivianna
Hi all,
i think you misunderstood me.  yes, i have a case for my air and, i also carry 
it in a backpack.  what is my concern is having it stolen right out of my 
hands.  say, for example, that i am sitting outside at a coffee shop and typing 
away on the computer with my earbuds in and someone just takes the machine and 
runs off with it.  this is my concern.  even if i have my hands on it they can 
still grab it and run.
are others afraid of such happening?  am i being to paranoid?  what do sighted 
folks do with their expensive machines?  do they just use them and not worry 
about it?  
i am off to check out these links now.  thanks a lot.
Vivianna
On Mar 14, 2012, at 3:01 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:

 I bought a backpack so when I'm not using my MacBook I just pop it in there. 
 If I usually sling it over one shoulder but if I need both hands I can put it 
 on all the way. In other words, I don't lock it down, I keep the laptop with 
 me. If you must lock it then you might want one of these:
 
 http://www.macworld.com/article/1158830/macbook_air_security_lock.html
 
 where you attach a rigid case to the MacBook Air and that case has a standard 
 lock slot. You could also check into iAlertU which uses the MacBook's motion 
 sensors to trigger an alarm and notify you on your iPhone etc.
 
 http://ialertu.sourceforge.net/
 
 CB
 
 On 3/14/12 3:51 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I personally just put my macbook in my book bag when I travel.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Mar 14, 2012, at 3:45 PM, Viviannairish...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 so, i went out and bought myself this super cool, super fast macbook air.  
 now, the reason that i bought this fine machine is because of it's small 
 size and portability.  well, now that spring is here, i am wanting to take 
 it out with me to coffee shops etc.  i live in a city and am concerned 
 about the safety of using such a machine in an outdoor public setting.  i 
 went to the mac online store and looked up the kensington lock and, alas, 
 it does not work with the air.
 so, here's my question to you all.
 do you all take your portable machines out with you?  and, if you do, what 
 sort of security measures, if any, do you take?  have any of you had 
 problems with having your computers stolen? and, if so, what did you do?  
 did you get it back?
 i would be extremely upset if i had my machine stolen on one hand yet, on 
 the other hand, i do not want to be restricted to using it only in the 
 safety of my own home.  if i wanted to stay at home, i would have purchased 
 the less costly mini.
 i look forward to hearing your experiences and suggestions.
 thanks much.
 Vivianna
 
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Re: Using your air in public.

2012-03-14 Thread Garth Humphreys
Hi 

I am always using my Air in public.  I am writing this email on the train to 
work at the moment. I had similar concerns to you when I first got my air but 
very soon got over them. I use it in coffee shops all the time. I would tend to 
get a seat inside rather than one on the street though. This is mor because it 
would normally be air conditioned inside and we are coming out of summer here 
in Oz. However I guess one nice side effect of sitting inside is that you 
dramatically reduce the chance of someone being able to snatch and run with 
your MBA.  I guess every country and area is different so take my advise under 
caution. 

Garth 
@BlindTechMusing

On 15/03/2012, at 6:14 AM, Vivianna wrote:

 Hi all,
 i think you misunderstood me.  yes, i have a case for my air and, i also 
 carry it in a backpack.  what is my concern is having it stolen right out of 
 my hands.  say, for example, that i am sitting outside at a coffee shop and 
 typing away on the computer with my earbuds in and someone just takes the 
 machine and runs off with it.  this is my concern.  even if i have my hands 
 on it they can still grab it and run.
 are others afraid of such happening?  am i being to paranoid?  what do 
 sighted folks do with their expensive machines?  do they just use them and 
 not worry about it?  
 i am off to check out these links now.  thanks a lot.
 Vivianna
 On Mar 14, 2012, at 3:01 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
 
 I bought a backpack so when I'm not using my MacBook I just pop it in there. 
 If I usually sling it over one shoulder but if I need both hands I can put 
 it on all the way. In other words, I don't lock it down, I keep the laptop 
 with me. If you must lock it then you might want one of these:
 
 http://www.macworld.com/article/1158830/macbook_air_security_lock.html
 
 where you attach a rigid case to the MacBook Air and that case has a 
 standard lock slot. You could also check into iAlertU which uses the 
 MacBook's motion sensors to trigger an alarm and notify you on your iPhone 
 etc.
 
 http://ialertu.sourceforge.net/
 
 CB
 
 On 3/14/12 3:51 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I personally just put my macbook in my book bag when I travel.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Mar 14, 2012, at 3:45 PM, Viviannairish...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 so, i went out and bought myself this super cool, super fast macbook air.  
 now, the reason that i bought this fine machine is because of it's small 
 size and portability.  well, now that spring is here, i am wanting to take 
 it out with me to coffee shops etc.  i live in a city and am concerned 
 about the safety of using such a machine in an outdoor public setting.  i 
 went to the mac online store and looked up the kensington lock and, alas, 
 it does not work with the air.
 so, here's my question to you all.
 do you all take your portable machines out with you?  and, if you do, what 
 sort of security measures, if any, do you take?  have any of you had 
 problems with having your computers stolen? and, if so, what did you do?  
 did you get it back?
 i would be extremely upset if i had my machine stolen on one hand yet, on 
 the other hand, i do not want to be restricted to using it only in the 
 safety of my own home.  if i wanted to stay at home, i would have 
 purchased the less costly mini.
 i look forward to hearing your experiences and suggestions.
 thanks much.
 Vivianna
 
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Re: Using your air in public.

2012-03-14 Thread Jane
Whenever I've been to a coffee shop, I get lucky and find a Mac geek nearby, a 
sighted one, who is happy to keep an eye on stuff.  Even if there isn't one of 
those, the other people in the shop are quick to note if there are any people 
around and warn me.  But int he places I hang out at, people are generally 
cool.  I've never had problems, an the strange ones don't stay around long 
because, I guess, tey are being watched by the others.

Jane


On Mar 14, 2012, at 4:14 PM, Vivianna wrote:

 Hi all,
 i think you misunderstood me.  yes, i have a case for my air and, i also 
 carry it in a backpack.  what is my concern is having it stolen right out of 
 my hands.  say, for example, that i am sitting outside at a coffee shop and 
 typing away on the computer with my earbuds in and someone just takes the 
 machine and runs off with it.  this is my concern.  even if i have my hands 
 on it they can still grab it and run.
 are others afraid of such happening?  am i being to paranoid?  what do 
 sighted folks do with their expensive machines?  do they just use them and 
 not worry about it?  
 i am off to check out these links now.  thanks a lot.
 Vivianna
 On Mar 14, 2012, at 3:01 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
 
 I bought a backpack so when I'm not using my MacBook I just pop it in there. 
 If I usually sling it over one shoulder but if I need both hands I can put 
 it on all the way. In other words, I don't lock it down, I keep the laptop 
 with me. If you must lock it then you might want one of these:
 
 http://www.macworld.com/article/1158830/macbook_air_security_lock.html
 
 where you attach a rigid case to the MacBook Air and that case has a 
 standard lock slot. You could also check into iAlertU which uses the 
 MacBook's motion sensors to trigger an alarm and notify you on your iPhone 
 etc.
 
 http://ialertu.sourceforge.net/
 
 CB
 
 On 3/14/12 3:51 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I personally just put my macbook in my book bag when I travel.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Mar 14, 2012, at 3:45 PM, Viviannairish...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 so, i went out and bought myself this super cool, super fast macbook air.  
 now, the reason that i bought this fine machine is because of it's small 
 size and portability.  well, now that spring is here, i am wanting to take 
 it out with me to coffee shops etc.  i live in a city and am concerned 
 about the safety of using such a machine in an outdoor public setting.  i 
 went to the mac online store and looked up the kensington lock and, alas, 
 it does not work with the air.
 so, here's my question to you all.
 do you all take your portable machines out with you?  and, if you do, what 
 sort of security measures, if any, do you take?  have any of you had 
 problems with having your computers stolen? and, if so, what did you do?  
 did you get it back?
 i would be extremely upset if i had my machine stolen on one hand yet, on 
 the other hand, i do not want to be restricted to using it only in the 
 safety of my own home.  if i wanted to stay at home, i would have 
 purchased the less costly mini.
 i look forward to hearing your experiences and suggestions.
 thanks much.
 Vivianna
 
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Re: Using your air in public.

2012-03-14 Thread Gigi
Hi Viviana.
I think you're being cautious if you have a concern. I think paranoid is when 
you just won't get your Mac Air out because you're afraid unreasonably.

My sighted brother had a laptop stolen from him because two guys worked 
together. One distracted him and pretended to be hurt; when he put his laptop 
down and went to help, the other guy took his laptop. He never did get it back 
as far as I know. 

I don't have an Air, but I do have a MacBook Pro. I have a case for it that I 
got from Apple, and when I carry it around, I never leave it in the car or 
anywhere else. Also, I put my arm through its strap all the time. When I go 
into a restaurant, I try to choose a booth, partly to accommodate my dog, but 
partly so I can put my computer case right up next to me. I put it and my purse 
together, so I am unlikely to leave the both of them. Also, a booth is more 
secure because a person would really have to work to get to your computer. I'd 
rather make it hard for them if they are going to get it. 

If there is not a booth, after getting my dog in place, I tuck my computer case 
and purse as close under my feet as possible. 

Regards,
Gigi


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On Mar 14, 2012, at 3:14 PM, Vivianna irish...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 i think you misunderstood me.  yes, i have a case for my air and, i also 
 carry it in a backpack.  what is my concern is having it stolen right out of 
 my hands.  say, for example, that i am sitting outside at a coffee shop and 
 typing away on the computer with my earbuds in and someone just takes the 
 machine and runs off with it.  this is my concern.  even if i have my hands 
 on it they can still grab it and run.
 are others afraid of such happening?  am i being to paranoid?  what do 
 sighted folks do with their expensive machines?  do they just use them and 
 not worry about it?  
 i am off to check out these links now.  thanks a lot.
 Vivianna
 On Mar 14, 2012, at 3:01 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
 
 I bought a backpack so when I'm not using my MacBook I just pop it in there. 
 If I usually sling it over one shoulder but if I need both hands I can put 
 it on all the way. In other words, I don't lock it down, I keep the laptop 
 with me. If you must lock it then you might want one of these:
 
 http://www.macworld.com/article/1158830/macbook_air_security_lock.html
 
 where you attach a rigid case to the MacBook Air and that case has a 
 standard lock slot. You could also check into iAlertU which uses the 
 MacBook's motion sensors to trigger an alarm and notify you on your iPhone 
 etc.
 
 http://ialertu.sourceforge.net/
 
 CB
 
 On 3/14/12 3:51 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I personally just put my macbook in my book bag when I travel.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Mar 14, 2012, at 3:45 PM, Viviannairish...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 so, i went out and bought myself this super cool, super fast macbook air.  
 now, the reason that i bought this fine machine is because of it's small 
 size and portability.  well, now that spring is here, i am wanting to take 
 it out with me to coffee shops etc.  i live in a city and am concerned 
 about the safety of using such a machine in an outdoor public setting.  i 
 went to the mac online store and looked up the kensington lock and, alas, 
 it does not work with the air.
 so, here's my question to you all.
 do you all take your portable machines out with you?  and, if you do, what 
 sort of security measures, if any, do you take?  have any of you had 
 problems with having your computers stolen? and, if so, what did you do?  
 did you get it back?
 i would be extremely upset if i had my machine stolen on one hand yet, on 
 the other hand, i do not want to be restricted to using it only in the 
 safety of my own home.  if i wanted to stay at home, i would have 
 purchased the less costly mini.
 i look forward to hearing your experiences and suggestions.
 thanks much.
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Re: Using your air in public.

2012-03-14 Thread Emrah
Wow!
More than the hardware, I am concerned about the data, so my hard drive is 
fully encrypted.
I don't know if you are being too paranoid or not. I just think that your MBA 
will feel very upset if you don't use it in public. :)
You need some guts to steal a laptop like that. I must be lucky or something, 
but I tend to trust my environment quite a bit. I live in NYC.

I have heard about people getting their iPhone stollen while talking on the 
phone with it. Must be so funny to watch… Sorry if it happened to you guys.

Anyway, if you are too concerned, try to see if you can have it insured. I use 
it all the time in cars, restaurants, jumping from meetings to meetings, on the 
plane, train and even once from the privacy of my bathroom. O O :)

Cheers!
On Mar 14, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Gigi wrote:

 Hi Viviana.
 I think you're being cautious if you have a concern. I think paranoid is when 
 you just won't get your Mac Air out because you're afraid unreasonably.
 
 My sighted brother had a laptop stolen from him because two guys worked 
 together. One distracted him and pretended to be hurt; when he put his laptop 
 down and went to help, the other guy took his laptop. He never did get it 
 back as far as I know. 
 
 I don't have an Air, but I do have a MacBook Pro. I have a case for it that I 
 got from Apple, and when I carry it around, I never leave it in the car or 
 anywhere else. Also, I put my arm through its strap all the time. When I go 
 into a restaurant, I try to choose a booth, partly to accommodate my dog, but 
 partly so I can put my computer case right up next to me. I put it and my 
 purse together, so I am unlikely to leave the both of them. Also, a booth is 
 more secure because a person would really have to work to get to your 
 computer. I'd rather make it hard for them if they are going to get it. 
 
 If there is not a booth, after getting my dog in place, I tuck my computer 
 case and purse as close under my feet as possible. 
 
 Regards,
 Gigi
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 14, 2012, at 3:14 PM, Vivianna irish...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 i think you misunderstood me.  yes, i have a case for my air and, i also 
 carry it in a backpack.  what is my concern is having it stolen right out of 
 my hands.  say, for example, that i am sitting outside at a coffee shop and 
 typing away on the computer with my earbuds in and someone just takes the 
 machine and runs off with it.  this is my concern.  even if i have my hands 
 on it they can still grab it and run.
 are others afraid of such happening?  am i being to paranoid?  what do 
 sighted folks do with their expensive machines?  do they just use them and 
 not worry about it?  
 i am off to check out these links now.  thanks a lot.
 Vivianna
 On Mar 14, 2012, at 3:01 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
 
 I bought a backpack so when I'm not using my MacBook I just pop it in 
 there. If I usually sling it over one shoulder but if I need both hands I 
 can put it on all the way. In other words, I don't lock it down, I keep the 
 laptop with me. If you must lock it then you might want one of these:
 
 http://www.macworld.com/article/1158830/macbook_air_security_lock.html
 
 where you attach a rigid case to the MacBook Air and that case has a 
 standard lock slot. You could also check into iAlertU which uses the 
 MacBook's motion sensors to trigger an alarm and notify you on your iPhone 
 etc.
 
 http://ialertu.sourceforge.net/
 
 CB
 
 On 3/14/12 3:51 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I personally just put my macbook in my book bag when I travel.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Mar 14, 2012, at 3:45 PM, Viviannairish...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 so, i went out and bought myself this super cool, super fast macbook air. 
  now, the reason that i bought this fine machine is because of it's small 
 size and portability.  well, now that spring is here, i am wanting to 
 take it out with me to coffee shops etc.  i live in a city and am 
 concerned about the safety of using such a machine in an outdoor public 
 setting.  i went to the mac online store and looked up the kensington 
 lock and, alas, it does not work with the air.
 so, here's my question to you all.
 do you all take your portable machines out with you?  and, if you do, 
 what sort of security measures, if any, do you take?  have any of you had 
 problems with having your computers stolen? and, if so, what did you do?  
 did you get it back?
 i would be extremely upset if i had my machine stolen on one hand yet, on 
 the other hand, i do not want to be restricted to using it only in the 
 safety of my own home.  if i wanted to stay at home, i would have 
 purchased the less costly mini.
 i look forward to hearing your experiences and suggestions.
 thanks much.
 Vivianna
 
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Re: Using your air in public.

2012-03-14 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Hi All.

I can only say that my I phone 4S and Mac Book Pro are not insured and I have 
no concerns of using my gadgets in public.  I know that we may be more at risk 
of having our things stolen but I'd like to think I want to be like my sighted 
counterparts that I do not want to be restricted by not being able to use my 
things whilst either at work out in public places.  I take the view that if I 
was to be scared of doing anything at all I may as well stop living!  Life is a 
risk and we only live once so make the most of it as none of us know what is 
round the corner.

Kawal.

On 14 Mar 2012, at 11:07 PM, Emrah li...@kavun.ch wrote:

 Wow!
 More than the hardware, I am concerned about the data, so my hard drive is 
 fully encrypted.
 I don't know if you are being too paranoid or not. I just think that your MBA 
 will feel very upset if you don't use it in public. :)
 You need some guts to steal a laptop like that. I must be lucky or something, 
 but I tend to trust my environment quite a bit. I live in NYC.
 
 I have heard about people getting their iPhone stollen while talking on the 
 phone with it. Must be so funny to watch… Sorry if it happened to you guys.
 
 Anyway, if you are too concerned, try to see if you can have it insured. I 
 use it all the time in cars, restaurants, jumping from meetings to meetings, 
 on the plane, train and even once from the privacy of my bathroom. O O :)
 
 Cheers!
 On Mar 14, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Gigi wrote:
 
 Hi Viviana.
 I think you're being cautious if you have a concern. I think paranoid is 
 when you just won't get your Mac Air out because you're afraid unreasonably.
 
 My sighted brother had a laptop stolen from him because two guys worked 
 together. One distracted him and pretended to be hurt; when he put his 
 laptop down and went to help, the other guy took his laptop. He never did 
 get it back as far as I know. 
 
 I don't have an Air, but I do have a MacBook Pro. I have a case for it that 
 I got from Apple, and when I carry it around, I never leave it in the car or 
 anywhere else. Also, I put my arm through its strap all the time. When I go 
 into a restaurant, I try to choose a booth, partly to accommodate my dog, 
 but partly so I can put my computer case right up next to me. I put it and 
 my purse together, so I am unlikely to leave the both of them. Also, a booth 
 is more secure because a person would really have to work to get to your 
 computer. I'd rather make it hard for them if they are going to get it. 
 
 If there is not a booth, after getting my dog in place, I tuck my computer 
 case and purse as close under my feet as possible. 
 
 Regards,
 Gigi
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 14, 2012, at 3:14 PM, Vivianna irish...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 i think you misunderstood me.  yes, i have a case for my air and, i also 
 carry it in a backpack.  what is my concern is having it stolen right out 
 of my hands.  say, for example, that i am sitting outside at a coffee shop 
 and typing away on the computer with my earbuds in and someone just takes 
 the machine and runs off with it.  this is my concern.  even if i have my 
 hands on it they can still grab it and run.
 are others afraid of such happening?  am i being to paranoid?  what do 
 sighted folks do with their expensive machines?  do they just use them and 
 not worry about it?  
 i am off to check out these links now.  thanks a lot.
 Vivianna
 On Mar 14, 2012, at 3:01 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
 
 I bought a backpack so when I'm not using my MacBook I just pop it in 
 there. If I usually sling it over one shoulder but if I need both hands I 
 can put it on all the way. In other words, I don't lock it down, I keep 
 the laptop with me. If you must lock it then you might want one of these:
 
 http://www.macworld.com/article/1158830/macbook_air_security_lock.html
 
 where you attach a rigid case to the MacBook Air and that case has a 
 standard lock slot. You could also check into iAlertU which uses the 
 MacBook's motion sensors to trigger an alarm and notify you on your iPhone 
 etc.
 
 http://ialertu.sourceforge.net/
 
 CB
 
 On 3/14/12 3:51 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I personally just put my macbook in my book bag when I travel.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Mar 14, 2012, at 3:45 PM, Viviannairish...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 so, i went out and bought myself this super cool, super fast macbook 
 air.  now, the reason that i bought this fine machine is because of it's 
 small size and portability.  well, now that spring is here, i am wanting 
 to take it out with me to coffee shops etc.  i live in a city and am 
 concerned about the safety of using such a machine in an outdoor public 
 setting.  i went to the mac online store and looked up the kensington 
 lock and, alas, it does not work with the air.
 so, here's my question to you all.
 do you all take your portable machines out with you?  and, if 

Re: Using your air in public.

2012-03-14 Thread Marc Sutton
I am wondering what you use for data encryption. That's more my concern. If 
someone swipes my mba then they have a lot of data. Are there vo friendly 
encryption programs out there?
Marc

On Mar 14, 2012, at 4:07 PM, Emrah wrote:

 Wow!
 More than the hardware, I am concerned about the data, so my hard drive is 
 fully encrypted.
 I don't know if you are being too paranoid or not. I just think that your MBA 
 will feel very upset if you don't use it in public. :)
 You need some guts to steal a laptop like that. I must be lucky or something, 
 but I tend to trust my environment quite a bit. I live in NYC.
 
 I have heard about people getting their iPhone stollen while talking on the 
 phone with it. Must be so funny to watch… Sorry if it happened to you guys.
 
 Anyway, if you are too concerned, try to see if you can have it insured. I 
 use it all the time in cars, restaurants, jumping from meetings to meetings, 
 on the plane, train and even once from the privacy of my bathroom. O O :)
 
 Cheers!
 On Mar 14, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Gigi wrote:
 
 Hi Viviana.
 I think you're being cautious if you have a concern. I think paranoid is 
 when you just won't get your Mac Air out because you're afraid unreasonably.
 
 My sighted brother had a laptop stolen from him because two guys worked 
 together. One distracted him and pretended to be hurt; when he put his 
 laptop down and went to help, the other guy took his laptop. He never did 
 get it back as far as I know. 
 
 I don't have an Air, but I do have a MacBook Pro. I have a case for it that 
 I got from Apple, and when I carry it around, I never leave it in the car or 
 anywhere else. Also, I put my arm through its strap all the time. When I go 
 into a restaurant, I try to choose a booth, partly to accommodate my dog, 
 but partly so I can put my computer case right up next to me. I put it and 
 my purse together, so I am unlikely to leave the both of them. Also, a booth 
 is more secure because a person would really have to work to get to your 
 computer. I'd rather make it hard for them if they are going to get it. 
 
 If there is not a booth, after getting my dog in place, I tuck my computer 
 case and purse as close under my feet as possible. 
 
 Regards,
 Gigi
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 14, 2012, at 3:14 PM, Vivianna irish...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 i think you misunderstood me.  yes, i have a case for my air and, i also 
 carry it in a backpack.  what is my concern is having it stolen right out 
 of my hands.  say, for example, that i am sitting outside at a coffee shop 
 and typing away on the computer with my earbuds in and someone just takes 
 the machine and runs off with it.  this is my concern.  even if i have my 
 hands on it they can still grab it and run.
 are others afraid of such happening?  am i being to paranoid?  what do 
 sighted folks do with their expensive machines?  do they just use them and 
 not worry about it?  
 i am off to check out these links now.  thanks a lot.
 Vivianna
 On Mar 14, 2012, at 3:01 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
 
 I bought a backpack so when I'm not using my MacBook I just pop it in 
 there. If I usually sling it over one shoulder but if I need both hands I 
 can put it on all the way. In other words, I don't lock it down, I keep 
 the laptop with me. If you must lock it then you might want one of these:
 
 http://www.macworld.com/article/1158830/macbook_air_security_lock.html
 
 where you attach a rigid case to the MacBook Air and that case has a 
 standard lock slot. You could also check into iAlertU which uses the 
 MacBook's motion sensors to trigger an alarm and notify you on your iPhone 
 etc.
 
 http://ialertu.sourceforge.net/
 
 CB
 
 On 3/14/12 3:51 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I personally just put my macbook in my book bag when I travel.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Mar 14, 2012, at 3:45 PM, Viviannairish...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 so, i went out and bought myself this super cool, super fast macbook 
 air.  now, the reason that i bought this fine machine is because of it's 
 small size and portability.  well, now that spring is here, i am wanting 
 to take it out with me to coffee shops etc.  i live in a city and am 
 concerned about the safety of using such a machine in an outdoor public 
 setting.  i went to the mac online store and looked up the kensington 
 lock and, alas, it does not work with the air.
 so, here's my question to you all.
 do you all take your portable machines out with you?  and, if you do, 
 what sort of security measures, if any, do you take?  have any of you 
 had problems with having your computers stolen? and, if so, what did you 
 do?  did you get it back?
 i would be extremely upset if i had my machine stolen on one hand yet, 
 on the other hand, i do not want to be restricted to using it only in 
 the safety of my own home.  if i wanted to stay at home, i would have 
 purchased the 

Re: Using your air in public.

2012-03-14 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter
What would everyone here think of a device which was inserted into a USB slot 
on an Air or Iphone and, when yanked out, would completely disable the computer?

I owned a stun gun and it had a wrist lanyard which was attached to a part of 
the gun.  IF the gun was yanked from your hands, the part would come out of the 
back, causing the weapon to be completely inoperative.

My idea was if a wrist lanyard were attached to a USB device which was an 
encrypted key to your portable computing device, without which a password was 
necessary to restore it, were yanked from the computing device via it being 
snatched from you, the device would go dead.  You'd still lose it, but short of 
charging the case of the device itself and zapping the grabber (wouldn't work), 
this would at least render the device useless until they either got the USB key 
from the lanyard around your wrist or the password to restore it.  I'm curious 
whether anyone would use such a gadget, or whether the risks outweigh the 
benefits.


 • Mark BurningHawk Baxter
 • AIM, Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
 • MSN:  burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
 • My home page:
 • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/

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Re: Using your air in public.

2012-03-14 Thread Cheree Heppe
Cheree Heppe here:

The idea of a physical key sounds like a good idea.  Do you know where or if 
this idea has been tried on computers?

I have used a Windows machine or two and various Braille note takers and 
I-devices in public and so far, nobody has attempted to lay hands on the 
devices or on me while I've been using them.  I would carry a low profile bag 
with a cross-body strap and use my public effectively for information and 
assistance.  Some ordinary-looking backpacks contain interior pockets which 
hold NewBooks, Airs and so forth.

Regarding the stun gun, Mark, would you write me privately, as I have several 
questions.


Regards,
Cheree Heppe


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On 14/03/2012, at 16:34, Mark BurningHawk Baxter markbaxte...@gmail.com wrote:

 What would everyone here think of a device which was inserted into a USB slot 
 on an Air or Iphone and, when yanked out, would completely disable the 
 computer?
 
 I owned a stun gun and it had a wrist lanyard which was attached to a part of 
 the gun.  IF the gun was yanked from your hands, the part would come out of 
 the back, causing the weapon to be completely inoperative.
 
 My idea was if a wrist lanyard were attached to a USB device which was an 
 encrypted key to your portable computing device, without which a password was 
 necessary to restore it, were yanked from the computing device via it being 
 snatched from you, the device would go dead.  You'd still lose it, but short 
 of charging the case of the device itself and zapping the grabber (wouldn't 
 work), this would at least render the device useless until they either got 
 the USB key from the lanyard around your wrist or the password to restore it. 
  I'm curious whether anyone would use such a gadget, or whether the risks 
 outweigh the benefits.
 
 
 • Mark BurningHawk Baxter
 • AIM, Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
 • MSN:  burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
 • My home page:
 • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
 
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