Re: braille display Assistance requested
The EuroBraille eSYS40 did not work using bluetooth for me, I have it connected via usb. I have a Braillino which I must try via bluetooth, I know it works using cable. On another side, the only braille table available in macos is US, are there any other braille tables and where can one get them and where to put them? Thanks. Original message: No software should need to be installed. Open the voiceover utility, and choose the braille category. Choose add to add the bluetooth display. On Jun 4, 2011, at 12:38 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: Hi everyone: I'm happy to say I now have a Braillino Only much of the manual pertains to setting it up with a PC. If anyone's around this weekend who wouldn't mind answering a few pretty basic questions, such as whether software needs to be installed on the mac, and whether the bluetooth needs to be added, I'd be very appreciative. Feel free to write off list if need be. Take care all, and TIA for any help. Carolyn. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Georges Zeinoun Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929 Mobile: +46707567315 E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: braille display Assistance requested
Hello Georges, You can download Braille tables for other languages from: http://www.cecimac.org/english.htm These tables are only uncontracted Braille. Cheers, Anne On 5 Jun 2011, at 09:48, Georges Zaynoun wrote: The EuroBraille eSYS40 did not work using bluetooth for me, I have it connected via usb. I have a Braillino which I must try via bluetooth, I know it works using cable. On another side, the only braille table available in macos is US, are there any other braille tables and where can one get them and where to put them? Thanks. Original message: No software should need to be installed. Open the voiceover utility, and choose the braille category. Choose add to add the bluetooth display. On Jun 4, 2011, at 12:38 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: Hi everyone: I'm happy to say I now have a Braillino Only much of the manual pertains to setting it up with a PC. If anyone's around this weekend who wouldn't mind answering a few pretty basic questions, such as whether software needs to be installed on the mac, and whether the bluetooth needs to be added, I'd be very appreciative. Feel free to write off list if need be. Take care all, and TIA for any help. Carolyn. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Georges Zeinoun Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929 Mobile: +46707567315 E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: braille display Assistance requested
Ok will do but where do I copy them on the mac? Thanks. Original message: Hello Georges, You can download Braille tables for other languages from: http://www.cecimac.org/english.htm These tables are only uncontracted Braille. Cheers, Anne On 5 Jun 2011, at 09:48, Georges Zaynoun wrote: The EuroBraille eSYS40 did not work using bluetooth for me, I have it connected via usb. I have a Braillino which I must try via bluetooth, I know it works using cable. On another side, the only braille table available in macos is US, are there any other braille tables and where can one get them and where to put them? Thanks. Original message: No software should need to be installed. Open the voiceover utility, and choose the braille category. Choose add to add the bluetooth display. On Jun 4, 2011, at 12:38 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: Hi everyone: I'm happy to say I now have a Braillino Only much of the manual pertains to setting it up with a PC. If anyone's around this weekend who wouldn't mind answering a few pretty basic questions, such as whether software needs to be installed on the mac, and whether the bluetooth needs to be added, I'd be very appreciative. Feel free to write off list if need be. Take care all, and TIA for any help. Carolyn. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Georges Zeinoun Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929 Mobile: +46707567315 E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Georges Zeinoun Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929 Mobile: +46707567315 E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: braille display Assistance requested
Hello Georges, The Braille tables come as a disc image, DMG, and you just open it and follow the normal install procedure. Cheers, Anne \ On 5 Jun 2011, at 11:15, Georges Zaynoun wrote: Ok will do but where do I copy them on the mac? Thanks. Original message: Hello Georges, You can download Braille tables for other languages from: http://www.cecimac.org/english.htm These tables are only uncontracted Braille. Cheers, Anne On 5 Jun 2011, at 09:48, Georges Zaynoun wrote: The EuroBraille eSYS40 did not work using bluetooth for me, I have it connected via usb. I have a Braillino which I must try via bluetooth, I know it works using cable. On another side, the only braille table available in macos is US, are there any other braille tables and where can one get them and where to put them? Thanks. Original message: No software should need to be installed. Open the voiceover utility, and choose the braille category. Choose add to add the bluetooth display. On Jun 4, 2011, at 12:38 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: Hi everyone: I'm happy to say I now have a Braillino Only much of the manual pertains to setting it up with a PC. If anyone's around this weekend who wouldn't mind answering a few pretty basic questions, such as whether software needs to be installed on the mac, and whether the bluetooth needs to be added, I'd be very appreciative. Feel free to write off list if need be. Take care all, and TIA for any help. Carolyn. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Georges Zeinoun Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929 Mobile: +46707567315 E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Georges Zeinoun Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929 Mobile: +46707567315 E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: braille display Assistance requested
Thanks Anne, actually I am typing this message on the Braillino using a bluetooth connection. When I am reading E-mail dots 7 and 8 are always under the text I am reading which can be irritating sometimes, how can I toggle them on/off? I tried the Arabic Braille table my mother tongue but am using the Swedish table where I live, thanks. Original message: Hello Georges, You can download Braille tables for other languages from: http://www.cecimac.org/english.htm These tables are only uncontracted Braille. Cheers, Anne On 5 Jun 2011, at 09:48, Georges Zaynoun wrote: The EuroBraille eSYS40 did not work using bluetooth for me, I have it connected via usb. I have a Braillino which I must try via bluetooth, I know it works using cable. On another side, the only braille table available in macos is US, are there any other braille tables and where can one get them and where to put them? Thanks. Original message: No software should need to be installed. Open the voiceover utility, and choose the braille category. Choose add to add the bluetooth display. On Jun 4, 2011, at 12:38 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: Hi everyone: I'm happy to say I now have a Braillino Only much of the manual pertains to setting it up with a PC. If anyone's around this weekend who wouldn't mind answering a few pretty basic questions, such as whether software needs to be installed on the mac, and whether the bluetooth needs to be added, I'd be very appreciative. Feel free to write off list if need be. Take care all, and TIA for any help. Carolyn. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Georges Zeinoun Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929 Mobile: +46707567315 E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Georges Zeinoun Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929 Mobile: +46707567315 E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: braille display Assistance requested
Hello Georges, To get rid of dots 7 and 8, go to VoiceOver Utility. In the Braille category, select Layout and you should find Use dots 7 and 8 to indicate cursor check box which you need to uncheck. Cheers, Anne On 5 Jun 2011, at 16:12, Georges Zaynoun wrote: Thanks Anne, actually I am typing this message on the Braillino using a bluetooth connection. When I am reading E-mail dots 7 and 8 are always under the text I am reading which can be irritating sometimes, how can I toggle them on/off? I tried the Arabic Braille table my mother tongue but am using the Swedish table where I live, thanks. Original message: Hello Georges, You can download Braille tables for other languages from: http://www.cecimac.org/english.htm These tables are only uncontracted Braille. Cheers, Anne On 5 Jun 2011, at 09:48, Georges Zaynoun wrote: The EuroBraille eSYS40 did not work using bluetooth for me, I have it connected via usb. I have a Braillino which I must try via bluetooth, I know it works using cable. On another side, the only braille table available in macos is US, are there any other braille tables and where can one get them and where to put them? Thanks. Original message: No software should need to be installed. Open the voiceover utility, and choose the braille category. Choose add to add the bluetooth display. On Jun 4, 2011, at 12:38 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: Hi everyone: I'm happy to say I now have a Braillino Only much of the manual pertains to setting it up with a PC. If anyone's around this weekend who wouldn't mind answering a few pretty basic questions, such as whether software needs to be installed on the mac, and whether the bluetooth needs to be added, I'd be very appreciative. Feel free to write off list if need be. Take care all, and TIA for any help. Carolyn. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Georges Zeinoun Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929 Mobile: +46707567315 E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Georges Zeinoun Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929 Mobile: +46707567315 E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: braille display Assistance requested
Hello Georges, You can assign any VO command you like to key combinations on your Braille display. Just select your display in VoiceOver Utility in the Braille category. You'll see a button saying Assign Commands. Click this button and you'll find a table of existing commands to which you can add your own. You can also change the existing commands if you don't like them. When using the CeciMac Braille tables, dot 8 is Return and dot 7 is Backspace. You can mute VoiceOver while using your Braille display. I've never used a Braille display with anything other than Mac, so I don't understand exactly what you're asking. Cheers, Anne On 5 Jun 2011, at 18:16, Georges Zaynoun wrote: Can I assign a toggle to this checkbox from whatever application I want? Is it possible to configure the Braille display in such a way that I read the screen in Braille independently from voiceover like when using a Braille display in some screen readers in windows environment? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: braille display Assistance requested
Let me first ask how do I mute voiceover and unmute it again? I will explain what I meant hopefully, I want to read the screen with my braille display without muting voiceover and I don't want my braille display to move the voiceover cursor with it, but say I stand on a button I want to be able to activate that button with cursor routing got me now?Original message: Hello Georges, You can assign any VO command you like to key combinations on your Braille display. Just select your display in VoiceOver Utility in the Braille category. You'll see a button saying Assign Commands. Click this button and you'll find a table of existing commands to which you can add your own. You can also change the existing commands if you don't like them. When using the CeciMac Braille tables, dot 8 is Return and dot 7 is Backspace. You can mute VoiceOver while using your Braille display. I've never used a Braille display with anything other than Mac, so I don't understand exactly what you're asking. Cheers, Anne On 5 Jun 2011, at 18:16, Georges Zaynoun wrote: Can I assign a toggle to this checkbox from whatever application I want? Is it possible to configure the Braille display in such a way that I read the screen in Braille independently from voiceover like when using a Braille display in some screen readers in windows environment? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Georges Zeinoun Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929 Mobile: +46707567315 E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: braille display Assistance requested
Hello Georges, To mute the VoiceOver speech, you can either check the check box in VoiceOver Utility, Speech, or set a short cut on your Braille display. The Mute command is in the Audio menu. The Braille display is tied to the VO cursor, so you can't have it working separately from VO. You can, however, turn cursor tracking off, in which case, the mouse and the insertion point will be somewhere else. Cheers, Anne On 5 Jun 2011, at 19:48, Georges Zaynoun wrote: Let me first ask how do I mute voiceover and unmute it again? I will explain what I meant hopefully, I want to read the screen with my braille display without muting voiceover and I don't want my braille display to move the voiceover cursor with it, but say I stand on a button I want to be able to activate that button with cursor routing got me now? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: braille display Assistance requested
Hi George: I've gotten it paired now, first with the Mac, and also with the iPhone. Sometimes, it seems like hit or miss. It took my iPhone 3GS several tries before it found the Braillino, and a few more for me to get the timing quick enough to enter the pairing code.:) The really nice thing is not having to install a bunch of software on a mac to get it going. Looking at the manual, gave me a bit of a scare.:) Carolyn On Jun 5, 2011, at 1:48 AM, Georges Zaynoun wrote: The EuroBraille eSYS40 did not work using bluetooth for me, I have it connected via usb. I have a Braillino which I must try via bluetooth, I know it works using cable. On another side, the only braille table available in macos is US, are there any other braille tables and where can one get them and where to put them? Thanks. Original message: No software should need to be installed. Open the voiceover utility, and choose the braille category. Choose add to add the bluetooth display. On Jun 4, 2011, at 12:38 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: Hi everyone: I'm happy to say I now have a Braillino Only much of the manual pertains to setting it up with a PC. If anyone's around this weekend who wouldn't mind answering a few pretty basic questions, such as whether software needs to be installed on the mac, and whether the bluetooth needs to be added, I'd be very appreciative. Feel free to write off list if need be. Take care all, and TIA for any help. Carolyn. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- Georges Zeinoun Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE Tel: +46500201623, +46500482929 Mobile: +46707567315 E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: braille display Assistance requested
Hi Anne and George: If I understand this correctly, you can also mute speech with cord-M. Carolyn On Jun 5, 2011, at 3:30 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Georges, To mute the VoiceOver speech, you can either check the check box in VoiceOver Utility, Speech, or set a short cut on your Braille display. The Mute command is in the Audio menu. The Braille display is tied to the VO cursor, so you can't have it working separately from VO. You can, however, turn cursor tracking off, in which case, the mouse and the insertion point will be somewhere else. Cheers, Anne On 5 Jun 2011, at 19:48, Georges Zaynoun wrote: Let me first ask how do I mute voiceover and unmute it again? I will explain what I meant hopefully, I want to read the screen with my braille display without muting voiceover and I don't want my braille display to move the voiceover cursor with it, but say I stand on a button I want to be able to activate that button with cursor routing got me now? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: braille display Assistance requested
My guess is that you don't know the right code to put in to get the Braillino pared. Here is the secret you probably need to know. Let's say your serial number on the back of your unit is 12345, as an example. You take the number in the first position which is a 1 in this case and add 1, then whatever the number is in the second place, which is 2 here and you add two to that number, in the third position you add 3 to whatever the number is in the third position, add 4 to whatever number is in the fourth position, and add 5 to whatever number is in the fifth position. So, if the serial number really was 1234 then the number you would enter in the Mac to pear your unit would be: 24680 The reason for the 0 in the last place is since the adding of 5 and 5 gets 10 and you drop the 1 and enter the 0. So, for one more example: if your serial were: 26487 then the number you would enter would be: 38722 Try that and see if it works for you. - Original Message - From: carolyn Haas chaas0...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 6:02 PM Subject: Re: braille display Assistance requested Hi Anne:'It doesn't much matter what I think about the list.:) But, I'm getting exactly nowhere. I'm struggling to read the ***PDF manual, page by page, and haven't found the pairing instructions yet. What I saw so far, according to my mac, the braillino is supposed to get the code entered. Guess I'm hopelessly confused until I read a whale of a lot more, or get some training from HT. Anyhow, thanks for trying. It's much appreciated. Carolyn On Jun 4, 2011, at 3:52 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Carolyn, I don't know whether it made any difference, but I tried to add my Braillino in the Braille category of VoiceOver Utility but, although it saw the Braillino, I couldn't pair them. That was when I went to System Preferences where I had the opportunity to put in the code. You don't need that USB thing, it's just for PCs that don't have BlueTooth. You don't need that serial to USB cable either. It's getting late here in France, but I should be up for another hour or so if I can be of any further help. If you think this is getting too much for the list, e-mail me privately and I'll try to help further. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: braille display Assistance requested
Hello Carolyn, What a coincidence! I got my Braillino yesterday. There is nothing to install on the Mac. The Braillino only works with BlueTooth on the Mac as it has no USB connector, just a serial port. To pair your Braillino, you have to go into the BlueTooth pane of System Preferences, and follow the instructions to pair it there. You should have a 5 figure code provided with your Braillino, and this is the code to enter on the Mac when it is asked for. It should be with the BlueTooth extension that looks like a USB drive. Cheers, Anne On 4 Jun 2011, at 19:38, carolyn Haas wrote: Hi everyone: I'm happy to say I now have a Braillino Only much of the manual pertains to setting it up with a PC. If anyone's around this weekend who wouldn't mind answering a few pretty basic questions, such as whether software needs to be installed on the mac, and whether the bluetooth needs to be added, I'd be very appreciative. Feel free to write off list if need be. Take care all, and TIA for any help. Carolyn. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: braille display Assistance requested
Hi Anne: I don't see a bluetooth extension that looks like a usb drive. There's a usb thingie that looks like a serial to usb interface cable. But I have a disk that says bluetooth, and a braille slip with the code on it. So, I'll head for preferences and see how far I get. Thanks for the heads up. Carolyn On Jun 4, 2011, at 12:03 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Carolyn, What a coincidence! I got my Braillino yesterday. There is nothing to install on the Mac. The Braillino only works with BlueTooth on the Mac as it has no USB connector, just a serial port. To pair your Braillino, you have to go into the BlueTooth pane of System Preferences, and follow the instructions to pair it there. You should have a 5 figure code provided with your Braillino, and this is the code to enter on the Mac when it is asked for. It should be with the BlueTooth extension that looks like a USB drive. Cheers, Anne On 4 Jun 2011, at 19:38, carolyn Haas wrote: Hi everyone: I'm happy to say I now have a Braillino Only much of the manual pertains to setting it up with a PC. If anyone's around this weekend who wouldn't mind answering a few pretty basic questions, such as whether software needs to be installed on the mac, and whether the bluetooth needs to be added, I'd be very appreciative. Feel free to write off list if need be. Take care all, and TIA for any help. Carolyn. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: braille display Assistance requested
No software should need to be installed. Open the voiceover utility, and choose the braille category. Choose add to add the bluetooth display. On Jun 4, 2011, at 12:38 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: Hi everyone: I'm happy to say I now have a Braillino Only much of the manual pertains to setting it up with a PC. If anyone's around this weekend who wouldn't mind answering a few pretty basic questions, such as whether software needs to be installed on the mac, and whether the bluetooth needs to be added, I'd be very appreciative. Feel free to write off list if need be. Take care all, and TIA for any help. Carolyn. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: braille display Assistance requested
Hello Carolyn, I don't know whether it made any difference, but I tried to add my Braillino in the Braille category of VoiceOver Utility but, although it saw the Braillino, I couldn't pair them. That was when I went to System Preferences where I had the opportunity to put in the code. You don't need that USB thing, it's just for PCs that don't have BlueTooth. You don't need that serial to USB cable either. It's getting late here in France, but I should be up for another hour or so if I can be of any further help. If you think this is getting too much for the list, e-mail me privately and I'll try to help further. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: braille display Assistance requested
Hello again Carolyn, My husband has just reminded me of something. You need to put your Braillino into the right mode for acting as a terminal. To do this, turn the unit off, then hold down the Braille dot 8 key while switching it back on again. You should see something like: HT BRAILLINO F4 and some other symbols. It should then be discoverable. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: braille display Assistance requested
Hi Anne:'It doesn't much matter what I think about the list.:) But, I'm getting exactly nowhere. I'm struggling to read the ***PDF manual, page by page, and haven't found the pairing instructions yet. What I saw so far, according to my mac, the braillino is supposed to get the code entered. Guess I'm hopelessly confused until I read a whale of a lot more, or get some training from HT. Anyhow, thanks for trying. It's much appreciated. Carolyn On Jun 4, 2011, at 3:52 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Carolyn, I don't know whether it made any difference, but I tried to add my Braillino in the Braille category of VoiceOver Utility but, although it saw the Braillino, I couldn't pair them. That was when I went to System Preferences where I had the opportunity to put in the code. You don't need that USB thing, it's just for PCs that don't have BlueTooth. You don't need that serial to USB cable either. It's getting late here in France, but I should be up for another hour or so if I can be of any further help. If you think this is getting too much for the list, e-mail me privately and I'll try to help further. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
