Re: mudclient wasRe: my 2 months with a mac
Hi Thomas, Thanks for the feedback on this. It's interesting to see how some folks' systems won't give the VO feedback, and then some systems don't seem to want to have anything to do with running the software in the first place! When you first start up JamochaMUD and get the world connector it doesn't have any worlds listed; you'll need to create at least one world to connect, or choose the Don't Connect button to get to the main window. Right now I had been concentrating on accessibility in the the World Connector so that folks can at least get a start on things... I'll try to work my way through from most commonly used parts to least. It is curious that I've had a couple reports about some other process keeping VO and the system busy. I'll have to see if I can figure out what might be causing that. JamochaMUD does sort've kludge things in that when it does present the World Connector the main window is also created but not set to be visible. I don't know if Voice Over is somehow seeing that window and it is causing it grief, or not. I'll see if I can find a better way of handling that, just to rule it out. I also understand what it is like trying to find time for meaning feedback and bug-squashing. Personally, I'm in the middle of some major home renovations that are impacting life here at the house, so probably should be making certain my priorities are in-line. But I'll definitely try to pursue any problems that you find with JamochaMUD. Thanks for writing back, Jeff Thomas McMahan wrote: I am still trying it, The buttons on mine do anounce, but the time between when I VO up or down arrow and the anouncement is delayed by vo saying java busy. The browser though for some reason I can't interact with or get information of listed worlds. Are there worlds listed from initial programming of the aplication, or does it create the list as I add worlds? I suppose if there are no worlds listed yet, then that's why I wouldn't be able to interact with browser. Some time I will try going into one of the games and see if it will add the world. I think what worrys me more is that something's resources are being over used somewhere with VO saying java busy all the time, and I haven't figured out exactly why that's happening, which of course forces me as a player to be slow waiting to get the information. I remember trying an earlier version of this aplication maybe a couple of years ago, well deffinitely over a year ago and this version is better for feedback in giving me information as to what's available. So you've deffinitely progressed in this version compared to the one I tried before in the previous version. Also what is the latest version of Java which can be ran with Tiger, perhaps that may be part of the problem as well, not sure. I don't give up to fast if I can find labeled things to click. Went round and round with Atlantis before getting it to work ok with my machine as well. Meanwhile doing that would play games with mudwalkerwhich works, but again have to be pretty active with theVO home and end keys and the tab key to get information. But don't have a clue as to how do do plugginsfor sounds or anything like that for mudwalker. Haven't tried doing pluggins for your aplication yet, figured I would try it as it is first before seeing what were offered for pluggins. Some game sites offer sound packages that you can run while in their games, which to me would be cool to hear while playing. In short though, I haven't given up on trying it yet, and probably won't for a while yet. The unfortunate thing is though I haven't been able to spend much time at computer for past 4 months, but perhaps when my wife can get to come back home I will get some more computer time back in because I will physically be at home more. Unless when she gets back home she creates large honey do lists for me *lol.* On Oct 23, 2009, at 5:32 PM, KehzaFox wrote: Well, that's definitely not off to a good start, and needless to say a little disappointing! Following Java's standards the buttons (at least on the World Connector) I have not only labelled the buttons but added an additional Accessible Name and Accessible Description which (in theory) are to be used by screen readers. How slow the client appears to you is also a bit troubling. My intention is to load up the client on my wife's Macbook and see if I can sort things out. Thanks for trying out JamochaMUD, and hopefully I can get these problems ironed out. Jeff Thomas McMahan wrote: Tiger is even more of a disaster. Am on the world conecter now, but it's not accepting input, just saying java busy.Have been at this for an hour now, I think if it's this slow an agressive mob would have me killed 20 times over. On Oct 23, 2009, at 7:34 AM, william lomas wrote: the buttons are not labeled so when one
Re: mudclient wasRe: my 2 months with a mac
Has anyone tried running something like TinyFugue straight from terminal? I don't have any accounts on any of the MUDs left--though TinyTim might have my player on file somewhere, I'm sure LambdaMoo has deleted me long, long ago. Else, I'd get back into it. I never did get Second Life to do much, despite Max the virtual guide dog. Mark BurningHawk Baxter Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com My home page: http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: mudclient wasRe: my 2 months with a mac
Ok, Jeff, that then explains not being to interact with the browser. Will try the (don't connec) button and then see what it does at that point then. As for different systems and their reactions, that seems to be somewhat common, just as voice over quite often has multipal ways to accomplish one thing, which is ok different people have different needs. Also in regard to systems, I am probably part of a samll mynority on the list since I am stil running tiger here, to slow of a processer for the later cats. So an ancient machine *lol.* Have had it for just about 7 years now, so wonder if it will start to have the 7 year itch soon? Or will that be us in wanting a different machine *lol.* On Oct 25, 2009, at 7:55 PM, KehzaFox wrote: Hi Thomas, Thanks for the feedback on this. It's interesting to see how some folks' systems won't give the VO feedback, and then some systems don't seem to want to have anything to do with running the software in the first place! When you first start up JamochaMUD and get the world connector it doesn't have any worlds listed; you'll need to create at least one world to connect, or choose the Don't Connect button to get to the main window. Right now I had been concentrating on accessibility in the the World Connector so that folks can at least get a start on things... I'll try to work my way through from most commonly used parts to least. It is curious that I've had a couple reports about some other process keeping VO and the system busy. I'll have to see if I can figure out what might be causing that. JamochaMUD does sort've kludge things in that when it does present the World Connector the main window is also created but not set to be visible. I don't know if Voice Over is somehow seeing that window and it is causing it grief, or not. I'll see if I can find a better way of handling that, just to rule it out. I also understand what it is like trying to find time for meaning feedback and bug-squashing. Personally, I'm in the middle of some major home renovations that are impacting life here at the house, so probably should be making certain my priorities are in-line. But I'll definitely try to pursue any problems that you find with JamochaMUD. Thanks for writing back, Jeff Thomas McMahan wrote: I am still trying it, The buttons on mine do anounce, but the time between when I VO up or down arrow and the anouncement is delayed by vo saying java busy. The browser though for some reason I can't interact with or get information of listed worlds. Are there worlds listed from initial programming of the aplication, or does it create the list as I add worlds? I suppose if there are no worlds listed yet, then that's why I wouldn't be able to interact with browser. Some time I will try going into one of the games and see if it will add the world. I think what worrys me more is that something's resources are being over used somewhere with VO saying java busy all the time, and I haven't figured out exactly why that's happening, which of course forces me as a player to be slow waiting to get the information. I remember trying an earlier version of this aplication maybe a couple of years ago, well deffinitely over a year ago and this version is better for feedback in giving me information as to what's available. So you've deffinitely progressed in this version compared to the one I tried before in the previous version. Also what is the latest version of Java which can be ran with Tiger, perhaps that may be part of the problem as well, not sure. I don't give up to fast if I can find labeled things to click. Went round and round with Atlantis before getting it to work ok with my machine as well. Meanwhile doing that would play games with mudwalkerwhich works, but again have to be pretty active with theVO home and end keys and the tab key to get information. But don't have a clue as to how do do plugginsfor sounds or anything like that for mudwalker. Haven't tried doing pluggins for your aplication yet, figured I would try it as it is first before seeing what were offered for pluggins. Some game sites offer sound packages that you can run while in their games, which to me would be cool to hear while playing. In short though, I haven't given up on trying it yet, and probably won't for a while yet. The unfortunate thing is though I haven't been able to spend much time at computer for past 4 months, but perhaps when my wife can get to come back home I will get some more computer time back in because I will physically be at home more. Unless when she gets back home she creates large honey do lists for me *lol.* On Oct 23, 2009, at 5:32 PM, KehzaFox wrote: Well, that's definitely not off to a good start, and needless to say a little disappointing! Following Java's standards the buttons (at least on the World Connector) I have not only labelled the
Re: mudclient wasRe: my 2 months with a mac
I can't say I've tried that. Understand though it was quite good in the past though, but wasn't mudding back then. On Oct 25, 2009, at 8:13 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: Has anyone tried running something like TinyFugue straight from terminal? I don't have any accounts on any of the MUDs left--though TinyTim might have my player on file somewhere, I'm sure LambdaMoo has deleted me long, long ago. Else, I'd get back into it. I never did get Second Life to do much, despite Max the virtual guide dog. Mark BurningHawk Baxter Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com My home page: http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: mudclient wasRe: my 2 months with a mac
Hello, google is your friend. in a nutshell: Mudding is a form of text gaming, like text adventures, but it has multiple players. to find boatloads of these games go to www.mudconnect.com Greetings, Anouk, - Original Message - From: peter apgar pap...@gmavt.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 7:28 AM Subject: Re: mudclient wasRe: my 2 months with a mac what is mudding? Thanks in advance. Pete On Oct 23, 2009, at 7:53 PM, KehzaFox wrote: You can try the Webstart version at http://www.jamochamud.org/downloads.html Please let me know your experiences with it, even if it ranges to I want to throw it out the window. Jeff michael A. Babcock wrote: hi; where can one get this app from to test out? for muds i to the following open terminal type telnet type o type the url, example: trekgames.net 1234 hit return and it connects. mike On Oct 23, 2009, at 2:32 PM, KehzaFox wrote: Well, that's definitely not off to a good start, and needless to say a little disappointing! Following Java's standards the buttons (at least on the World Connector) I have not only labelled the buttons but added an additional Accessible Name and Accessible Description which (in theory) are to be used by screen readers. How slow the client appears to you is also a bit troubling. My intention is to load up the client on my wife's Macbook and see if I can sort things out. Thanks for trying out JamochaMUD, and hopefully I can get these problems ironed out. Jeff Thomas McMahan wrote: Tiger is even more of a disaster. Am on the world conecter now, but it's not accepting input, just saying java busy.Have been at this for an hour now, I think if it's this slow an agressive mob would have me killed 20 times over. On Oct 23, 2009, at 7:34 AM, william lomas wrote: the buttons are not labeled so when one runs the program they dont know what to click On 23 Oct 2009, at 12:29, KehzaFox wrote: Hi Anouk, I released a new version of the JamochaMUD MUD Client a little while back where I've been working on incorporating accessibility features. If folks are willing to give me feedback such as this works, this doesn't work, I can't add a character or specific items like that I can definitely work toward making the client as accessible as possible. You should be able to try the new version straight from your web browser by using the WebStart option ( at http://www.jamochamud.org/downloads.html ). I'm always looking for feedback to make the client better. Jeff a radix wrote: Hello, I think that a lot of people would be interested in a mud client for the mac that works with snow leopard and that has some of the features we come to expect from a modern client. I myself would not even mind having to pay for it. Are there no people with some programming knowledge in cocoa that could program it or maybe we could 'rent'some experienced tech guy in the sighted mac community who would be willing to do it... I mean I know at least 4 mac users who really would love a good mud client for the mac and I am certain its possible too, if there is this piece of software. I cant imagine that there are no sighted people anymore that play muds either Greetings, Anouk - Original Message - From: Nicolai Svendsen chojiro1...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:03 PM Subject: Re: my 2 months with a mac Hi, Definitely quite an interesting story. I got my Mac on August 1. It was actually an odd experience. I went to an Apple store a couple weeks prior to my purchase just to try it out. I had attempted to use OS X 10.4, Tiger in the past at an institute for the blind, but I actually didn't like it. I thought it was quite literally a pile of crap. I start listening to podcasts that sighted and blind users have done for the Macintosh, and figure I'll give it another shot. I finally decided to purchase a Mac, because I had frankly become extremely frustrated with Windows and most certainly Vista. XP has always been my favorite if I do have to use Windows. I'd become tired of how many things you needed for Windows to work efficiently. Sometimes you had to worry about corrupted files, leftovers from previously installed applications, that sort of thing not to mention the registry. The headache. So I decided to take the plunge. I read through the entire VoiceOver manual the day before I went back to the store, and wrote down notes for the things I figured I'd mostly be using for a while. When I arrived at the store, I went to try it out again to make sure a Mac would be what I desired. It definitely was. So much that, in fact, that even though they only had a showroom floor model at the time, I grabbed it. The cleaned it off thoroughly, wrapped it up and tossed the DVDs I'd need in the box. I was happy. So very
Re: mudclient wasRe: my 2 months with a mac
I am still trying it, The buttons on mine do anounce, but the time between when I VO up or down arrow and the anouncement is delayed by vo saying java busy. The browser though for some reason I can't interact with or get information of listed worlds. Are there worlds listed from initial programming of the aplication, or does it create the list as I add worlds? I suppose if there are no worlds listed yet, then that's why I wouldn't be able to interact with browser. Some time I will try going into one of the games and see if it will add the world. I think what worrys me more is that something's resources are being over used somewhere with VO saying java busy all the time, and I haven't figured out exactly why that's happening, which of course forces me as a player to be slow waiting to get the information. I remember trying an earlier version of this aplication maybe a couple of years ago, well deffinitely over a year ago and this version is better for feedback in giving me information as to what's available. So you've deffinitely progressed in this version compared to the one I tried before in the previous version. Also what is the latest version of Java which can be ran with Tiger, perhaps that may be part of the problem as well, not sure. I don't give up to fast if I can find labeled things to click. Went round and round with Atlantis before getting it to work ok with my machine as well. Meanwhile doing that would play games with mudwalkerwhich works, but again have to be pretty active with theVO home and end keys and the tab key to get information. But don't have a clue as to how do do plugginsfor sounds or anything like that for mudwalker. Haven't tried doing pluggins for your aplication yet, figured I would try it as it is first before seeing what were offered for pluggins. Some game sites offer sound packages that you can run while in their games, which to me would be cool to hear while playing. In short though, I haven't given up on trying it yet, and probably won't for a while yet. The unfortunate thing is though I haven't been able to spend much time at computer for past 4 months, but perhaps when my wife can get to come back home I will get some more computer time back in because I will physically be at home more. Unless when she gets back home she creates large honey do lists for me *lol.* On Oct 23, 2009, at 5:32 PM, KehzaFox wrote: Well, that's definitely not off to a good start, and needless to say a little disappointing! Following Java's standards the buttons (at least on the World Connector) I have not only labelled the buttons but added an additional Accessible Name and Accessible Description which (in theory) are to be used by screen readers. How slow the client appears to you is also a bit troubling. My intention is to load up the client on my wife's Macbook and see if I can sort things out. Thanks for trying out JamochaMUD, and hopefully I can get these problems ironed out. Jeff Thomas McMahan wrote: Tiger is even more of a disaster. Am on the world conecter now, but it's not accepting input, just saying java busy.Have been at this for an hour now, I think if it's this slow an agressive mob would have me killed 20 times over. On Oct 23, 2009, at 7:34 AM, william lomas wrote: the buttons are not labeled so when one runs the program they dont know what to click On 23 Oct 2009, at 12:29, KehzaFox wrote: Hi Anouk, I released a new version of the JamochaMUD MUD Client a little while back where I've been working on incorporating accessibility features. If folks are willing to give me feedback such as this works, this doesn't work, I can't add a character or specific items like that I can definitely work toward making the client as accessible as possible. You should be able to try the new version straight from your web browser by using the WebStart option ( at http://www.jamochamud.org/downloads.html ). I'm always looking for feedback to make the client better. Jeff a radix wrote: Hello, I think that a lot of people would be interested in a mud client for the mac that works with snow leopard and that has some of the features we come to expect from a modern client. I myself would not even mind having to pay for it. Are there no people with some programming knowledge in cocoa that could program it or maybe we could 'rent'some experienced tech guy in the sighted mac community who would be willing to do it... I mean I know at least 4 mac users who really would love a good mud client for the mac and I am certain its possible too, if there is this piece of software. I cant imagine that there are no sighted people anymore that play muds either Greetings, Anouk - Original Message - From: Nicolai Svendsen chojiro1...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:03 PM
Re: mudclient wasRe: my 2 months with a mac
Multi User dungeongames. Text based gamming. Most of which have communication abilities for you to talk to other players, quite often within a clan based system or class based system or both. There a large amount of them of all different flavors depending on what your interests are. Some are based on series of books so would have been best to have read those books I suppose. Mud is also refered to a format as is Mu or a mush. For example mudlegend is a mud, Mariani is a mu I think, but a lot of these aplications will handle multipal types of games. Here's a place where you can kind of get a start in searching for games, and cliants etc. http://www.mudconnect.com/ It was kind of slow to load up when I just went over there, but that is one site you can start with to read some reviews, and search via category depending on your interests. 73 On Oct 24, 2009, at 12:28 AM, peter apgar wrote: what is mudding? Thanks in advance. Pete On Oct 23, 2009, at 7:53 PM, KehzaFox wrote: You can try the Webstart version at http://www.jamochamud.org/ downloads.html Please let me know your experiences with it, even if it ranges to I want to throw it out the window. Jeff michael A. Babcock wrote: hi; where can one get this app from to test out? for muds i to the following open terminal type telnet type o type the url, example: trekgames.net 1234 hit return and it connects. mike On Oct 23, 2009, at 2:32 PM, KehzaFox wrote: Well, that's definitely not off to a good start, and needless to say a little disappointing! Following Java's standards the buttons (at least on the World Connector) I have not only labelled the buttons but added an additional Accessible Name and Accessible Description which (in theory) are to be used by screen readers. How slow the client appears to you is also a bit troubling. My intention is to load up the client on my wife's Macbook and see if I can sort things out. Thanks for trying out JamochaMUD, and hopefully I can get these problems ironed out. Jeff Thomas McMahan wrote: Tiger is even more of a disaster. Am on the world conecter now, but it's not accepting input, just saying java busy.Have been at this for an hour now, I think if it's this slow an agressive mob would have me killed 20 times over. On Oct 23, 2009, at 7:34 AM, william lomas wrote: the buttons are not labeled so when one runs the program they dont know what to click On 23 Oct 2009, at 12:29, KehzaFox wrote: Hi Anouk, I released a new version of the JamochaMUD MUD Client a little while back where I've been working on incorporating accessibility features. If folks are willing to give me feedback such as this works, this doesn't work, I can't add a character or specific items like that I can definitely work toward making the client as accessible as possible. You should be able to try the new version straight from your web browser by using the WebStart option ( at http://www.jamochamud.org/downloads.html ). I'm always looking for feedback to make the client better. Jeff a radix wrote: Hello, I think that a lot of people would be interested in a mud client for the mac that works with snow leopard and that has some of the features we come to expect from a modern client. I myself would not even mind having to pay for it. Are there no people with some programming knowledge in cocoa that could program it or maybe we could 'rent'some experienced tech guy in the sighted mac community who would be willing to do it... I mean I know at least 4 mac users who really would love a good mud client for the mac and I am certain its possible too, if there is this piece of software. I cant imagine that there are no sighted people anymore that play muds either Greetings, Anouk - Original Message - From: Nicolai Svendsen chojiro1...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:03 PM Subject: Re: my 2 months with a mac Hi, Definitely quite an interesting story. I got my Mac on August 1. It was actually an odd experience. I went to an Apple store a couple weeks prior to my purchase just to try it out. I had attempted to use OS X 10.4, Tiger in the past at an institute for the blind, but I actually didn't like it. I thought it was quite literally a pile of crap. I start listening to podcasts that sighted and blind users have done for the Macintosh, and figure I'll give it another shot. I finally decided to purchase a Mac, because I had frankly become extremely frustrated with Windows and most certainly Vista. XP has always been my favorite if I do have to use Windows. I'd become tired of how many things you needed for Windows to work efficiently. Sometimes you had to worry about corrupted files, leftovers from previously installed applications, that sort of thing not to mention the registry. The headache.
RE: mudclient wasRe: my 2 months with a mac
What is MUD? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of KehzaFox Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 6:29 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: mudclient wasRe: my 2 months with a mac Hi Anouk, I released a new version of the JamochaMUD MUD Client a little while back where I've been working on incorporating accessibility features. If folks are willing to give me feedback such as this works, this doesn't work, I can't add a character or specific items like that I can definitely work toward making the client as accessible as possible. You should be able to try the new version straight from your web browser by using the WebStart option ( at http://www.jamochamud.org/downloads.html ). I'm always looking for feedback to make the client better. Jeff a radix wrote: Hello, I think that a lot of people would be interested in a mud client for the mac that works with snow leopard and that has some of the features we come to expect from a modern client. I myself would not even mind having to pay for it. Are there no people with some programming knowledge in cocoa that could program it or maybe we could 'rent'some experienced tech guy in the sighted mac community who would be willing to do it... I mean I know at least 4 mac users who really would love a good mud client for the mac and I am certain its possible too, if there is this piece of software. I cant imagine that there are no sighted people anymore that play muds either Greetings, Anouk - Original Message - From: Nicolai Svendsen chojiro1...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:03 PM Subject: Re: my 2 months with a mac Hi, Definitely quite an interesting story. I got my Mac on August 1. It was actually an odd experience. I went to an Apple store a couple weeks prior to my purchase just to try it out. I had attempted to use OS X 10.4, Tiger in the past at an institute for the blind, but I actually didn't like it. I thought it was quite literally a pile of crap. I start listening to podcasts that sighted and blind users have done for the Macintosh, and figure I'll give it another shot. I finally decided to purchase a Mac, because I had frankly become extremely frustrated with Windows and most certainly Vista. XP has always been my favorite if I do have to use Windows. I'd become tired of how many things you needed for Windows to work efficiently. Sometimes you had to worry about corrupted files, leftovers from previously installed applications, that sort of thing not to mention the registry. The headache. So I decided to take the plunge. I read through the entire VoiceOver manual the day before I went back to the store, and wrote down notes for the things I figured I'd mostly be using for a while. When I arrived at the store, I went to try it out again to make sure a Mac would be what I desired. It definitely was. So much that, in fact, that even though they only had a showroom floor model at the time, I grabbed it. The cleaned it off thoroughly, wrapped it up and tossed the DVDs I'd need in the box. I was happy. So very happy. I arrive home, and I'm practically tingling with excitement. I almost rip the box apart (taking care of the DVDs of course), get out my shiny Macbook and hook it up. Oh no! What I did know was that I had to reinstall it, but I didn't care. I didn't want any of that junk on it they had installed to advertise. So i went ahead. I rebooted it, held down the C-key when the installation DVD had been sucked into the Mac and I heard the startup sound. It displayed the finder and spat out the DVD. Literally. So I decided that apparently wasn't working for whatever reason. I located the installer DVD in the finder and open it. Authentication. God dang it! Behold the password box. I was required to enter a password to proceed. Of course, the Macbook had not been set to require a password at login. I call them at the store, and ask them for a password. I told them the C-key solution had not worked to boot from the DVD, and they promptly complied with my request. They gave me several passwords to enter, and I did. The name or password you entered is incorrect. I went back to the store, and they had a look at it. Most annoying of all was that finally, the C-key actually seemed to work. I was installing it when I got home. By this point, I was like a kid on his birthday. I thought I'd share my experience with all of you on the list. Yes, I am aware it's probably quite long-winded. But what can you do? I do run Windows as a virtual machine, but only to MUD. I do sometimes find it kind of annoying having to run two programs just to scan and recognize the image. That is why I liked Omnipage, and there has to be a solution out there that does exactly the same. As for my web
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Multi User Dungeon. Basically text based adventure games. Type in a cardnal direction move from one room into another. Compete either against other players, or against NPC non-player charicters, or also called mobs by many people playing muds. Lots of different themesor ideas that games are based uppon. Lots of different games to choose from depending on what you may be interested in doing, and some are faster and more action packed than others. Some also tend to be more social and roll playing than others. On Oct 24, 2009, at 7:17 PM, Kevin Gibbs wrote: What is MUD? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of KehzaFox Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 6:29 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: mudclient wasRe: my 2 months with a mac Hi Anouk, I released a new version of the JamochaMUD MUD Client a little while back where I've been working on incorporating accessibility features. If folks are willing to give me feedback such as this works, this doesn't work, I can't add a character or specific items like that I can definitely work toward making the client as accessible as possible. You should be able to try the new version straight from your web browser by using the WebStart option ( at http://www.jamochamud.org/ downloads.html ). I'm always looking for feedback to make the client better. Jeff a radix wrote: Hello, I think that a lot of people would be interested in a mud client for the mac that works with snow leopard and that has some of the features we come to expect from a modern client. I myself would not even mind having to pay for it. Are there no people with some programming knowledge in cocoa that could program it or maybe we could 'rent'some experienced tech guy in the sighted mac community who would be willing to do it... I mean I know at least 4 mac users who really would love a good mud client for the mac and I am certain its possible too, if there is this piece of software. I cant imagine that there are no sighted people anymore that play muds either Greetings, Anouk - Original Message - From: Nicolai Svendsen chojiro1...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:03 PM Subject: Re: my 2 months with a mac Hi, Definitely quite an interesting story. I got my Mac on August 1. It was actually an odd experience. I went to an Apple store a couple weeks prior to my purchase just to try it out. I had attempted to use OS X 10.4, Tiger in the past at an institute for the blind, but I actually didn't like it. I thought it was quite literally a pile of crap. I start listening to podcasts that sighted and blind users have done for the Macintosh, and figure I'll give it another shot. I finally decided to purchase a Mac, because I had frankly become extremely frustrated with Windows and most certainly Vista. XP has always been my favorite if I do have to use Windows. I'd become tired of how many things you needed for Windows to work efficiently. Sometimes you had to worry about corrupted files, leftovers from previously installed applications, that sort of thing not to mention the registry. The headache. So I decided to take the plunge. I read through the entire VoiceOver manual the day before I went back to the store, and wrote down notes for the things I figured I'd mostly be using for a while. When I arrived at the store, I went to try it out again to make sure a Mac would be what I desired. It definitely was. So much that, in fact, that even though they only had a showroom floor model at the time, I grabbed it. The cleaned it off thoroughly, wrapped it up and tossed the DVDs I'd need in the box. I was happy. So very happy. I arrive home, and I'm practically tingling with excitement. I almost rip the box apart (taking care of the DVDs of course), get out my shiny Macbook and hook it up. Oh no! What I did know was that I had to reinstall it, but I didn't care. I didn't want any of that junk on it they had installed to advertise. So i went ahead. I rebooted it, held down the C-key when the installation DVD had been sucked into the Mac and I heard the startup sound. It displayed the finder and spat out the DVD. Literally. So I decided that apparently wasn't working for whatever reason. I located the installer DVD in the finder and open it. Authentication. God dang it! Behold the password box. I was required to enter a password to proceed. Of course, the Macbook had not been set to require a password at login. I call them at the store, and ask them for a password. I told them the C-key solution had not worked to boot from the DVD, and they promptly complied with my request. They gave me several passwords to enter, and I did. The name or password you entered is incorrect. I went back
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Hi, I got it to work fine. You just need to experiment when you download the file to find the right buttons. I experienced something strange, though. Once I clicked cancel by mistake when it asked me if I wanted to continue and launched it. OK and Cancel were not labeled, but when it canceled and I reopened, they were both labeled. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Oct 23, 2009, at 3:07 PM, Thomas McMahan wrote: Tiger is even more of a disaster. Am on the world conecter now, but it's not accepting input, just saying java busy.Have been at this for an hour now, I think if it's this slow an agressive mob would have me killed 20 times over. On Oct 23, 2009, at 7:34 AM, william lomas wrote: the buttons are not labeled so when one runs the program they dont know what to click On 23 Oct 2009, at 12:29, KehzaFox wrote: Hi Anouk, I released a new version of the JamochaMUD MUD Client a little while back where I've been working on incorporating accessibility features. If folks are willing to give me feedback such as this works, this doesn't work, I can't add a character or specific items like that I can definitely work toward making the client as accessible as possible. You should be able to try the new version straight from your web browser by using the WebStart option ( at http://www.jamochamud.org/downloads.html ). I'm always looking for feedback to make the client better. Jeff a radix wrote: Hello, I think that a lot of people would be interested in a mud client for the mac that works with snow leopard and that has some of the features we come to expect from a modern client. I myself would not even mind having to pay for it. Are there no people with some programming knowledge in cocoa that could program it or maybe we could 'rent'some experienced tech guy in the sighted mac community who would be willing to do it... I mean I know at least 4 mac users who really would love a good mud client for the mac and I am certain its possible too, if there is this piece of software. I cant imagine that there are no sighted people anymore that play muds either Greetings, Anouk - Original Message - From: Nicolai Svendsen chojiro1...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:03 PM Subject: Re: my 2 months with a mac Hi, Definitely quite an interesting story. I got my Mac on August 1. It was actually an odd experience. I went to an Apple store a couple weeks prior to my purchase just to try it out. I had attempted to use OS X 10.4, Tiger in the past at an institute for the blind, but I actually didn't like it. I thought it was quite literally a pile of crap. I start listening to podcasts that sighted and blind users have done for the Macintosh, and figure I'll give it another shot. I finally decided to purchase a Mac, because I had frankly become extremely frustrated with Windows and most certainly Vista. XP has always been my favorite if I do have to use Windows. I'd become tired of how many things you needed for Windows to work efficiently. Sometimes you had to worry about corrupted files, leftovers from previously installed applications, that sort of thing not to mention the registry. The headache. So I decided to take the plunge. I read through the entire VoiceOver manual the day before I went back to the store, and wrote down notes for the things I figured I'd mostly be using for a while. When I arrived at the store, I went to try it out again to make sure a Mac would be what I desired. It definitely was. So much that, in fact, that even though they only had a showroom floor model at the time, I grabbed it. The cleaned it off thoroughly, wrapped it up and tossed the DVDs I'd need in the box. I was happy. So very happy. I arrive home, and I'm practically tingling with excitement. I almost rip the box apart (taking care of the DVDs of course), get out my shiny Macbook and hook it up. Oh no! What I did know was that I had to reinstall it, but I didn't care. I didn't want any of that junk on it they had installed to advertise. So i went ahead. I rebooted it, held down the C-key when the installation DVD had been sucked into the Mac and I heard the startup sound. It displayed the finder and spat out the DVD. Literally. So I decided that apparently wasn't working for whatever reason. I located the installer DVD in the finder and open it. Authentication. God dang it! Behold the password box. I was required to enter a password to proceed. Of course, the Macbook had not been set to require a password at login. I call them at the store, and ask them for a password. I told them the C-key solution had not worked to boot from the DVD, and they promptly complied with my request. They gave me several passwords to enter, and
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Hello, this i sgreat to hear! Especially now that I know that there are more active listers (i know of one more or less passive one and one non-lister) that play muds and want to play muds on the mac as well. Sorry if I did not answer my email before all things were rather hectic for a while (going back to school!) I will download the newest version of the client and try it out but I am no programmer and havent used voicover for THAT much. But I will try it and let you know what I think. Greetings, Anouk, - Original Message - From: KehzaFox kehza...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 1:29 PM Subject: Re: mudclient wasRe: my 2 months with a mac Hi Anouk, I released a new version of the JamochaMUD MUD Client a little while back where I've been working on incorporating accessibility features. If folks are willing to give me feedback such as this works, this doesn't work, I can't add a character or specific items like that I can definitely work toward making the client as accessible as possible. You should be able to try the new version straight from your web browser by using the WebStart option ( at http://www.jamochamud.org/downloads.html ). I'm always looking for feedback to make the client better. Jeff a radix wrote: Hello, I think that a lot of people would be interested in a mud client for the mac that works with snow leopard and that has some of the features we come to expect from a modern client. I myself would not even mind having to pay for it. Are there no people with some programming knowledge in cocoa that could program it or maybe we could 'rent'some experienced tech guy in the sighted mac community who would be willing to do it... I mean I know at least 4 mac users who really would love a good mud client for the mac and I am certain its possible too, if there is this piece of software. I cant imagine that there are no sighted people anymore that play muds either Greetings, Anouk - Original Message - From: Nicolai Svendsen chojiro1...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:03 PM Subject: Re: my 2 months with a mac Hi, Definitely quite an interesting story. I got my Mac on August 1. It was actually an odd experience. I went to an Apple store a couple weeks prior to my purchase just to try it out. I had attempted to use OS X 10.4, Tiger in the past at an institute for the blind, but I actually didn't like it. I thought it was quite literally a pile of crap. I start listening to podcasts that sighted and blind users have done for the Macintosh, and figure I'll give it another shot. I finally decided to purchase a Mac, because I had frankly become extremely frustrated with Windows and most certainly Vista. XP has always been my favorite if I do have to use Windows. I'd become tired of how many things you needed for Windows to work efficiently. Sometimes you had to worry about corrupted files, leftovers from previously installed applications, that sort of thing not to mention the registry. The headache. So I decided to take the plunge. I read through the entire VoiceOver manual the day before I went back to the store, and wrote down notes for the things I figured I'd mostly be using for a while. When I arrived at the store, I went to try it out again to make sure a Mac would be what I desired. It definitely was. So much that, in fact, that even though they only had a showroom floor model at the time, I grabbed it. The cleaned it off thoroughly, wrapped it up and tossed the DVDs I'd need in the box. I was happy. So very happy. I arrive home, and I'm practically tingling with excitement. I almost rip the box apart (taking care of the DVDs of course), get out my shiny Macbook and hook it up. Oh no! What I did know was that I had to reinstall it, but I didn't care. I didn't want any of that junk on it they had installed to advertise. So i went ahead. I rebooted it, held down the C-key when the installation DVD had been sucked into the Mac and I heard the startup sound. It displayed the finder and spat out the DVD. Literally. So I decided that apparently wasn't working for whatever reason. I located the installer DVD in the finder and open it. Authentication. God dang it! Behold the password box. I was required to enter a password to proceed. Of course, the Macbook had not been set to require a password at login. I call them at the store, and ask them for a password. I told them the C-key solution had not worked to boot from the DVD, and they promptly complied with my request. They gave me several passwords to enter, and I did. The name or password you entered is incorrect. I went back to the store, and they had a look at it. Most annoying of all was that finally, the C-key actually seemed to work. I was installing it when I got home. By this point, I was like a kid on his birthday. I
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Well, that's definitely not off to a good start, and needless to say a little disappointing! Following Java's standards the buttons (at least on the World Connector) I have not only labelled the buttons but added an additional Accessible Name and Accessible Description which (in theory) are to be used by screen readers. How slow the client appears to you is also a bit troubling. My intention is to load up the client on my wife's Macbook and see if I can sort things out. Thanks for trying out JamochaMUD, and hopefully I can get these problems ironed out. Jeff Thomas McMahan wrote: Tiger is even more of a disaster. Am on the world conecter now, but it's not accepting input, just saying java busy.Have been at this for an hour now, I think if it's this slow an agressive mob would have me killed 20 times over. On Oct 23, 2009, at 7:34 AM, william lomas wrote: the buttons are not labeled so when one runs the program they dont know what to click On 23 Oct 2009, at 12:29, KehzaFox wrote: Hi Anouk, I released a new version of the JamochaMUD MUD Client a little while back where I've been working on incorporating accessibility features. If folks are willing to give me feedback such as this works, this doesn't work, I can't add a character or specific items like that I can definitely work toward making the client as accessible as possible. You should be able to try the new version straight from your web browser by using the WebStart option ( at http://www.jamochamud.org/downloads.html ). I'm always looking for feedback to make the client better. Jeff a radix wrote: Hello, I think that a lot of people would be interested in a mud client for the mac that works with snow leopard and that has some of the features we come to expect from a modern client. I myself would not even mind having to pay for it. Are there no people with some programming knowledge in cocoa that could program it or maybe we could 'rent'some experienced tech guy in the sighted mac community who would be willing to do it... I mean I know at least 4 mac users who really would love a good mud client for the mac and I am certain its possible too, if there is this piece of software. I cant imagine that there are no sighted people anymore that play muds either Greetings, Anouk - Original Message - From: Nicolai Svendsen chojiro1...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:03 PM Subject: Re: my 2 months with a mac Hi, Definitely quite an interesting story. I got my Mac on August 1. It was actually an odd experience. I went to an Apple store a couple weeks prior to my purchase just to try it out. I had attempted to use OS X 10.4, Tiger in the past at an institute for the blind, but I actually didn't like it. I thought it was quite literally a pile of crap. I start listening to podcasts that sighted and blind users have done for the Macintosh, and figure I'll give it another shot. I finally decided to purchase a Mac, because I had frankly become extremely frustrated with Windows and most certainly Vista. XP has always been my favorite if I do have to use Windows. I'd become tired of how many things you needed for Windows to work efficiently. Sometimes you had to worry about corrupted files, leftovers from previously installed applications, that sort of thing not to mention the registry. The headache. So I decided to take the plunge. I read through the entire VoiceOver manual the day before I went back to the store, and wrote down notes for the things I figured I'd mostly be using for a while. When I arrived at the store, I went to try it out again to make sure a Mac would be what I desired. It definitely was. So much that, in fact, that even though they only had a showroom floor model at the time, I grabbed it. The cleaned it off thoroughly, wrapped it up and tossed the DVDs I'd need in the box. I was happy. So very happy. I arrive home, and I'm practically tingling with excitement. I almost rip the box apart (taking care of the DVDs of course), get out my shiny Macbook and hook it up. Oh no! What I did know was that I had to reinstall it, but I didn't care. I didn't want any of that junk on it they had installed to advertise. So i went ahead. I rebooted it, held down the C-key when the installation DVD had been sucked into the Mac and I heard the startup sound. It displayed the finder and spat out the DVD. Literally. So I decided that apparently wasn't working for whatever reason. I located the installer DVD in the finder and open it. Authentication. God dang it! Behold the password box. I was required to enter a password to proceed. Of course, the Macbook had not been set to require a password at login. I call them at the store, and ask them for a password. I told them the C-key solution had not worked to boot from the DVD, and they promptly complied
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hi; where can one get this app from to test out? for muds i to the following open terminal type telnet type o type the url, example: trekgames.net 1234 hit return and it connects. mike On Oct 23, 2009, at 2:32 PM, KehzaFox wrote: Well, that's definitely not off to a good start, and needless to say a little disappointing! Following Java's standards the buttons (at least on the World Connector) I have not only labelled the buttons but added an additional Accessible Name and Accessible Description which (in theory) are to be used by screen readers. How slow the client appears to you is also a bit troubling. My intention is to load up the client on my wife's Macbook and see if I can sort things out. Thanks for trying out JamochaMUD, and hopefully I can get these problems ironed out. Jeff Thomas McMahan wrote: Tiger is even more of a disaster. Am on the world conecter now, but it's not accepting input, just saying java busy.Have been at this for an hour now, I think if it's this slow an agressive mob would have me killed 20 times over. On Oct 23, 2009, at 7:34 AM, william lomas wrote: the buttons are not labeled so when one runs the program they dont know what to click On 23 Oct 2009, at 12:29, KehzaFox wrote: Hi Anouk, I released a new version of the JamochaMUD MUD Client a little while back where I've been working on incorporating accessibility features. If folks are willing to give me feedback such as this works, this doesn't work, I can't add a character or specific items like that I can definitely work toward making the client as accessible as possible. You should be able to try the new version straight from your web browser by using the WebStart option ( at http://www.jamochamud.org/downloads.html ). I'm always looking for feedback to make the client better. Jeff a radix wrote: Hello, I think that a lot of people would be interested in a mud client for the mac that works with snow leopard and that has some of the features we come to expect from a modern client. I myself would not even mind having to pay for it. Are there no people with some programming knowledge in cocoa that could program it or maybe we could 'rent'some experienced tech guy in the sighted mac community who would be willing to do it... I mean I know at least 4 mac users who really would love a good mud client for the mac and I am certain its possible too, if there is this piece of software. I cant imagine that there are no sighted people anymore that play muds either Greetings, Anouk - Original Message - From: Nicolai Svendsen chojiro1...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:03 PM Subject: Re: my 2 months with a mac Hi, Definitely quite an interesting story. I got my Mac on August 1. It was actually an odd experience. I went to an Apple store a couple weeks prior to my purchase just to try it out. I had attempted to use OS X 10.4, Tiger in the past at an institute for the blind, but I actually didn't like it. I thought it was quite literally a pile of crap. I start listening to podcasts that sighted and blind users have done for the Macintosh, and figure I'll give it another shot. I finally decided to purchase a Mac, because I had frankly become extremely frustrated with Windows and most certainly Vista. XP has always been my favorite if I do have to use Windows. I'd become tired of how many things you needed for Windows to work efficiently. Sometimes you had to worry about corrupted files, leftovers from previously installed applications, that sort of thing not to mention the registry. The headache. So I decided to take the plunge. I read through the entire VoiceOver manual the day before I went back to the store, and wrote down notes for the things I figured I'd mostly be using for a while. When I arrived at the store, I went to try it out again to make sure a Mac would be what I desired. It definitely was. So much that, in fact, that even though they only had a showroom floor model at the time, I grabbed it. The cleaned it off thoroughly, wrapped it up and tossed the DVDs I'd need in the box. I was happy. So very happy. I arrive home, and I'm practically tingling with excitement. I almost rip the box apart (taking care of the DVDs of course), get out my shiny Macbook and hook it up. Oh no! What I did know was that I had to reinstall it, but I didn't care. I didn't want any of that junk on it they had installed to advertise. So i went ahead. I rebooted it, held down the C-key when the installation DVD had been sucked into the Mac and I heard the startup sound. It displayed the finder and spat out the DVD. Literally. So I decided that apparently wasn't working for whatever reason. I located the installer DVD in the finder and open it. Authentication. God dang it! Behold the password box. I was
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You can try the Webstart version at http://www.jamochamud.org/downloads.html Please let me know your experiences with it, even if it ranges to I want to throw it out the window. Jeff michael A. Babcock wrote: hi; where can one get this app from to test out? for muds i to the following open terminal type telnet type o type the url, example: trekgames.net 1234 hit return and it connects. mike On Oct 23, 2009, at 2:32 PM, KehzaFox wrote: Well, that's definitely not off to a good start, and needless to say a little disappointing! Following Java's standards the buttons (at least on the World Connector) I have not only labelled the buttons but added an additional Accessible Name and Accessible Description which (in theory) are to be used by screen readers. How slow the client appears to you is also a bit troubling. My intention is to load up the client on my wife's Macbook and see if I can sort things out. Thanks for trying out JamochaMUD, and hopefully I can get these problems ironed out. Jeff Thomas McMahan wrote: Tiger is even more of a disaster. Am on the world conecter now, but it's not accepting input, just saying java busy.Have been at this for an hour now, I think if it's this slow an agressive mob would have me killed 20 times over. On Oct 23, 2009, at 7:34 AM, william lomas wrote: the buttons are not labeled so when one runs the program they dont know what to click On 23 Oct 2009, at 12:29, KehzaFox wrote: Hi Anouk, I released a new version of the JamochaMUD MUD Client a little while back where I've been working on incorporating accessibility features. If folks are willing to give me feedback such as this works, this doesn't work, I can't add a character or specific items like that I can definitely work toward making the client as accessible as possible. You should be able to try the new version straight from your web browser by using the WebStart option ( at http://www.jamochamud.org/downloads.html ). I'm always looking for feedback to make the client better. Jeff a radix wrote: Hello, I think that a lot of people would be interested in a mud client for the mac that works with snow leopard and that has some of the features we come to expect from a modern client. I myself would not even mind having to pay for it. Are there no people with some programming knowledge in cocoa that could program it or maybe we could 'rent'some experienced tech guy in the sighted mac community who would be willing to do it... I mean I know at least 4 mac users who really would love a good mud client for the mac and I am certain its possible too, if there is this piece of software. I cant imagine that there are no sighted people anymore that play muds either Greetings, Anouk - Original Message - From: Nicolai Svendsen chojiro1...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:03 PM Subject: Re: my 2 months with a mac Hi, Definitely quite an interesting story. I got my Mac on August 1. It was actually an odd experience. I went to an Apple store a couple weeks prior to my purchase just to try it out. I had attempted to use OS X 10.4, Tiger in the past at an institute for the blind, but I actually didn't like it. I thought it was quite literally a pile of crap. I start listening to podcasts that sighted and blind users have done for the Macintosh, and figure I'll give it another shot. I finally decided to purchase a Mac, because I had frankly become extremely frustrated with Windows and most certainly Vista. XP has always been my favorite if I do have to use Windows. I'd become tired of how many things you needed for Windows to work efficiently. Sometimes you had to worry about corrupted files, leftovers from previously installed applications, that sort of thing not to mention the registry. The headache. So I decided to take the plunge. I read through the entire VoiceOver manual the day before I went back to the store, and wrote down notes for the things I figured I'd mostly be using for a while. When I arrived at the store, I went to try it out again to make sure a Mac would be what I desired. It definitely was. So much that, in fact, that even though they only had a showroom floor model at the time, I grabbed it. The cleaned it off thoroughly, wrapped it up and tossed the DVDs I'd need in the box. I was happy. So very happy. I arrive home, and I'm practically tingling with excitement. I almost rip the box apart (taking care of the DVDs of course), get out my shiny Macbook and hook it up. Oh no! What I did know was that I had to reinstall it, but I didn't care. I didn't want any of that junk on it they had installed to advertise. So i went ahead. I rebooted it, held down the C-key when the installation DVD had been sucked into the Mac and I heard the startup sound. It displayed the finder
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hi will do, will test it on a macbook pro running SL mike On Oct 23, 2009, at 3:53 PM, KehzaFox wrote: You can try the Webstart version at http://www.jamochamud.org/downloads.html Please let me know your experiences with it, even if it ranges to I want to throw it out the window. Jeff michael A. Babcock wrote: hi; where can one get this app from to test out? for muds i to the following open terminal type telnet type o type the url, example: trekgames.net 1234 hit return and it connects. mike On Oct 23, 2009, at 2:32 PM, KehzaFox wrote: Well, that's definitely not off to a good start, and needless to say a little disappointing! Following Java's standards the buttons (at least on the World Connector) I have not only labelled the buttons but added an additional Accessible Name and Accessible Description which (in theory) are to be used by screen readers. How slow the client appears to you is also a bit troubling. My intention is to load up the client on my wife's Macbook and see if I can sort things out. Thanks for trying out JamochaMUD, and hopefully I can get these problems ironed out. Jeff Thomas McMahan wrote: Tiger is even more of a disaster. Am on the world conecter now, but it's not accepting input, just saying java busy.Have been at this for an hour now, I think if it's this slow an agressive mob would have me killed 20 times over. On Oct 23, 2009, at 7:34 AM, william lomas wrote: the buttons are not labeled so when one runs the program they dont know what to click On 23 Oct 2009, at 12:29, KehzaFox wrote: Hi Anouk, I released a new version of the JamochaMUD MUD Client a little while back where I've been working on incorporating accessibility features. If folks are willing to give me feedback such as this works, this doesn't work, I can't add a character or specific items like that I can definitely work toward making the client as accessible as possible. You should be able to try the new version straight from your web browser by using the WebStart option ( at http://www.jamochamud.org/downloads.html ). I'm always looking for feedback to make the client better. Jeff a radix wrote: Hello, I think that a lot of people would be interested in a mud client for the mac that works with snow leopard and that has some of the features we come to expect from a modern client. I myself would not even mind having to pay for it. Are there no people with some programming knowledge in cocoa that could program it or maybe we could 'rent'some experienced tech guy in the sighted mac community who would be willing to do it... I mean I know at least 4 mac users who really would love a good mud client for the mac and I am certain its possible too, if there is this piece of software. I cant imagine that there are no sighted people anymore that play muds either Greetings, Anouk - Original Message - From: Nicolai Svendsen chojiro1...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:03 PM Subject: Re: my 2 months with a mac Hi, Definitely quite an interesting story. I got my Mac on August 1. It was actually an odd experience. I went to an Apple store a couple weeks prior to my purchase just to try it out. I had attempted to use OS X 10.4, Tiger in the past at an institute for the blind, but I actually didn't like it. I thought it was quite literally a pile of crap. I start listening to podcasts that sighted and blind users have done for the Macintosh, and figure I'll give it another shot. I finally decided to purchase a Mac, because I had frankly become extremely frustrated with Windows and most certainly Vista. XP has always been my favorite if I do have to use Windows. I'd become tired of how many things you needed for Windows to work efficiently. Sometimes you had to worry about corrupted files, leftovers from previously installed applications, that sort of thing not to mention the registry. The headache. So I decided to take the plunge. I read through the entire VoiceOver manual the day before I went back to the store, and wrote down notes for the things I figured I'd mostly be using for a while. When I arrived at the store, I went to try it out again to make sure a Mac would be what I desired. It definitely was. So much that, in fact, that even though they only had a showroom floor model at the time, I grabbed it. The cleaned it off thoroughly, wrapped it up and tossed the DVDs I'd need in the box. I was happy. So very happy. I arrive home, and I'm practically tingling with excitement. I almost rip the box apart (taking care of the DVDs of course), get out my shiny Macbook and hook it up. Oh no! What I did know was that I had to reinstall it, but I didn't care. I didn't want any of that junk on it they had installed to advertise. So i went ahead. I rebooted it, held
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what is mudding? Thanks in advance. Pete On Oct 23, 2009, at 7:53 PM, KehzaFox wrote: You can try the Webstart version at http://www.jamochamud.org/downloads.html Please let me know your experiences with it, even if it ranges to I want to throw it out the window. Jeff michael A. Babcock wrote: hi; where can one get this app from to test out? for muds i to the following open terminal type telnet type o type the url, example: trekgames.net 1234 hit return and it connects. mike On Oct 23, 2009, at 2:32 PM, KehzaFox wrote: Well, that's definitely not off to a good start, and needless to say a little disappointing! Following Java's standards the buttons (at least on the World Connector) I have not only labelled the buttons but added an additional Accessible Name and Accessible Description which (in theory) are to be used by screen readers. How slow the client appears to you is also a bit troubling. My intention is to load up the client on my wife's Macbook and see if I can sort things out. Thanks for trying out JamochaMUD, and hopefully I can get these problems ironed out. Jeff Thomas McMahan wrote: Tiger is even more of a disaster. Am on the world conecter now, but it's not accepting input, just saying java busy.Have been at this for an hour now, I think if it's this slow an agressive mob would have me killed 20 times over. On Oct 23, 2009, at 7:34 AM, william lomas wrote: the buttons are not labeled so when one runs the program they dont know what to click On 23 Oct 2009, at 12:29, KehzaFox wrote: Hi Anouk, I released a new version of the JamochaMUD MUD Client a little while back where I've been working on incorporating accessibility features. If folks are willing to give me feedback such as this works, this doesn't work, I can't add a character or specific items like that I can definitely work toward making the client as accessible as possible. You should be able to try the new version straight from your web browser by using the WebStart option ( at http://www.jamochamud.org/downloads.html ). I'm always looking for feedback to make the client better. Jeff a radix wrote: Hello, I think that a lot of people would be interested in a mud client for the mac that works with snow leopard and that has some of the features we come to expect from a modern client. I myself would not even mind having to pay for it. Are there no people with some programming knowledge in cocoa that could program it or maybe we could 'rent'some experienced tech guy in the sighted mac community who would be willing to do it... I mean I know at least 4 mac users who really would love a good mud client for the mac and I am certain its possible too, if there is this piece of software. I cant imagine that there are no sighted people anymore that play muds either Greetings, Anouk - Original Message - From: Nicolai Svendsen chojiro1...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:03 PM Subject: Re: my 2 months with a mac Hi, Definitely quite an interesting story. I got my Mac on August 1. It was actually an odd experience. I went to an Apple store a couple weeks prior to my purchase just to try it out. I had attempted to use OS X 10.4, Tiger in the past at an institute for the blind, but I actually didn't like it. I thought it was quite literally a pile of crap. I start listening to podcasts that sighted and blind users have done for the Macintosh, and figure I'll give it another shot. I finally decided to purchase a Mac, because I had frankly become extremely frustrated with Windows and most certainly Vista. XP has always been my favorite if I do have to use Windows. I'd become tired of how many things you needed for Windows to work efficiently. Sometimes you had to worry about corrupted files, leftovers from previously installed applications, that sort of thing not to mention the registry. The headache. So I decided to take the plunge. I read through the entire VoiceOver manual the day before I went back to the store, and wrote down notes for the things I figured I'd mostly be using for a while. When I arrived at the store, I went to try it out again to make sure a Mac would be what I desired. It definitely was. So much that, in fact, that even though they only had a showroom floor model at the time, I grabbed it. The cleaned it off thoroughly, wrapped it up and tossed the DVDs I'd need in the box. I was happy. So very happy. I arrive home, and I'm practically tingling with excitement. I almost rip the box apart (taking care of the DVDs of course), get out my shiny Macbook and hook it up. Oh no! What I did know was that I had to reinstall it, but I didn't care. I didn't want any of that junk on it they had installed to advertise. So i went ahead. I rebooted it, held down the C-key
