Re: Reading ebooks on the Mac

2011-07-29 Thread Max
Thanks. I've managed to download some books from Kobo and i'm reading
them with Adobe Digital Editions 1.8 preview.
Just to put it very clearly - you need to interact with the page, then
make sure that quicknav is off, and then you can page back and forward
with left and right. It works pretty well - although more control and
the option for continuous reading is certainly missed. I think it is
worth engaging with Adobe on sorting out these final niggles in what
is a much-improved app for the Mac.

I'd also encourage people to write to apple to request iBooks for the
Mac. The access potential is so huge - and it is really silly that it
should be held up by small technicalities at this point.

Jane wrote:
 I just use the arrow keys for previous and next page.  Left for previous, 
 right for next.

 Jane


 On Jul 27, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:

  Hello Max,
 
  I'm not Jane, but I've started using Adobe Digital Editions Preview. 
  Theoretically, you can interact with the page and read using the usual VO 
  reading commands. However, I find that every time I interact with the page, 
  VO crashes.
 
  As for continuous reading, it isn't currently possible, but you can speed 
  up page turning by creating your own shortcuts for Previous Page and Next 
  Page.
 
  Cheers,
 
  Anne
 
 
  On 27 Jul 2011, at 15:37, Max wrote:
 
  Thank you Jane. I downloaded Adobe Digital Editions 1.8 preview and it
  seems to be quite accessible with Voice Over. At the moment i can
  only  read by page - but maybe i just haven't found the short cut keys
  for reading by line etc yet. I'm also finding that after every page i
  manually have to click on next page before it goes on. Do you know if
  there is a setting to make pages turn automatically?
  Either way, it is a massive improvement over the previous Digital
  Editions App which wasn't at all accessible.
 
 
 
  Jane wrote:
  Hi there.  Yes I am talking a bout 1.8 Beta for Adobe Digital Editions.
 
  As for Overdrive, not talking about those.  I'm talking specifically 
  about Kobo Books--I thought that's what the person was referring to.  
  Overdrive books are supposed to be supported now with adobe 1.8.  I have 
  yet to find out, but I plan to--soon.
 
  Jane
 
 
  On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:42 PM, Esther wrote:
 
  Hi Jane,
 
  Wow, this must be the 1.8 beta that is supposed to add accessibility 
  support.  According to the MacUpdate page, this was released July 20, 
  2011. Is this usable? The current stable version of Adobe Digital 
  Editions (1.7.2) does not let VoiceOver read anything.  The MacUpdate 
  reviews of this product (stable versions) by sighted users are at the 
  lowest ratings.  Have things gotten better? On the iPad are you using 
  this with OverDrive? (since BlueFire Reader, the other app that supports 
  library downloadable ADE DRM renders even books without DRM protection 
  unreadable by VoiceOver).
 
  Cheers,
 
  Esther
 
  On Jul 26, 2011, at 11:20, Jane wrote:
 
  I am currently using Adobe Digital Edition 1.8 to read books from Kobo 
  on the Mac.  I am also getting it to work on the iPad.  It takes some 
  fiddling, but you can read books from there with either the Mac or the 
  iPad or other iDevice.
 
  Jane
 
 
  On Jul 26, 2011, at 4:36 PM, Max wrote:
 
  Hi. Can anyone give some advice on reading e-books on the Mac?
  I've tried the Kindle and Kobo apps for Mac and they are both not
  accessible.
  I know that Stanza can read some DRM-free formats - but that only
  takes you so far.
  Are there any Mac solutions that are as easy to use and accessible as
  iBooks on the iPhone?
  Please help
  Thanks
  Max
 
 
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Re: Reading ebooks on the Mac

2011-07-29 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hmm,

When I interact with the page, voiceover crashes.

Ricardo Walker
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Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org

On Jul 29, 2011, at 6:14 AM, Max wrote:

Thanks. I've managed to download some books from Kobo and i'm reading
them with Adobe Digital Editions 1.8 preview.
Just to put it very clearly - you need to interact with the page, then
make sure that quicknav is off, and then you can page back and forward
with left and right. It works pretty well - although more control and
the option for continuous reading is certainly missed. I think it is
worth engaging with Adobe on sorting out these final niggles in what
is a much-improved app for the Mac.

I'd also encourage people to write to apple to request iBooks for the
Mac. The access potential is so huge - and it is really silly that it
should be held up by small technicalities at this point.

Jane wrote:
 I just use the arrow keys for previous and next page.  Left for previous, 
 right for next.
 
 Jane
 
 
 On Jul 27, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
 
 Hello Max,
 
 I'm not Jane, but I've started using Adobe Digital Editions Preview. 
 Theoretically, you can interact with the page and read using the usual VO 
 reading commands. However, I find that every time I interact with the page, 
 VO crashes.
 
 As for continuous reading, it isn't currently possible, but you can speed up 
 page turning by creating your own shortcuts for Previous Page and Next Page.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 27 Jul 2011, at 15:37, Max wrote:
 
 Thank you Jane. I downloaded Adobe Digital Editions 1.8 preview and it
 seems to be quite accessible with Voice Over. At the moment i can
 only  read by page - but maybe i just haven't found the short cut keys
 for reading by line etc yet. I'm also finding that after every page i
 manually have to click on next page before it goes on. Do you know if
 there is a setting to make pages turn automatically?
 Either way, it is a massive improvement over the previous Digital
 Editions App which wasn't at all accessible.
 
 
 
 Jane wrote:
 Hi there.  Yes I am talking a bout 1.8 Beta for Adobe Digital Editions.
 
 As for Overdrive, not talking about those.  I'm talking specifically about 
 Kobo Books--I thought that's what the person was referring to.  Overdrive 
 books are supposed to be supported now with adobe 1.8.  I have yet to find 
 out, but I plan to--soon.
 
 Jane
 
 
 On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:42 PM, Esther wrote:
 
 Hi Jane,
 
 Wow, this must be the 1.8 beta that is supposed to add accessibility 
 support.  According to the MacUpdate page, this was released July 20, 
 2011. Is this usable? The current stable version of Adobe Digital 
 Editions (1.7.2) does not let VoiceOver read anything.  The MacUpdate 
 reviews of this product (stable versions) by sighted users are at the 
 lowest ratings.  Have things gotten better? On the iPad are you using 
 this with OverDrive? (since BlueFire Reader, the other app that supports 
 library downloadable ADE DRM renders even books without DRM protection 
 unreadable by VoiceOver).
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Jul 26, 2011, at 11:20, Jane wrote:
 
 I am currently using Adobe Digital Edition 1.8 to read books from Kobo 
 on the Mac.  I am also getting it to work on the iPad.  It takes some 
 fiddling, but you can read books from there with either the Mac or the 
 iPad or other iDevice.
 
 Jane
 
 
 On Jul 26, 2011, at 4:36 PM, Max wrote:
 
 Hi. Can anyone give some advice on reading e-books on the Mac?
 I've tried the Kindle and Kobo apps for Mac and they are both not
 accessible.
 I know that Stanza can read some DRM-free formats - but that only
 takes you so far.
 Are there any Mac solutions that are as easy to use and accessible as
 iBooks on the iPhone?
 Please help
 Thanks
 Max
 
 
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Re: Reading ebooks on the Mac

2011-07-29 Thread Mary Otten
Max, Are you using SL or Lion with the Adobe application? It seems people with 
Lion are reporting crashes upon interacting with a page. Also, just to clarify, 
should this Adobe beta allow the use of books from the google store as well as 
Kobo and Barnes and Noble's nook store? I've been out of town for a few days 
and could not believe the number of messages I just went through, so it is 
possible this has been answered and I missed it in the flood.

Mary

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Re: Reading ebooks on the Mac

2011-07-29 Thread Ricardo Walker
I'm not sure about google but, It does work with BN and Kobo.

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Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org

On Jul 29, 2011, at 8:24 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

Max, Are you using SL or Lion with the Adobe application? It seems people with 
Lion are reporting crashes upon interacting with a page. Also, just to clarify, 
should this Adobe beta allow the use of books from the google store as well as 
Kobo and Barnes and Noble's nook store? I've been out of town for a few days 
and could not believe the number of messages I just went through, so it is 
possible this has been answered and I missed it in the flood.

Mary

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Re: Reading ebooks on the Mac

2011-07-29 Thread Max
It is working for me on Lion. I did have some crashes before, but i
don't get crashes if i do exactly the following: 1. With quicknav on
interact with the page. 2. With the very next key bress put quicknav
off. 3. Then left and right works fine for skipping pages backward and
forward.

I've only tried it with Kobo books - but it should really work with
books from any store that uses Adobe epubs..

Ricardo Walker wrote:
 I'm not sure about google but, It does work with BN and Kobo.

 Ricardo Walker
 rwalker...@gmail.com
 Twitter  Skype: rwalker296
 www.mobileaccess.org

 On Jul 29, 2011, at 8:24 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

 Max, Are you using SL or Lion with the Adobe application? It seems people 
 with Lion are reporting crashes upon interacting with a page. Also, just to 
 clarify, should this Adobe beta allow the use of books from the google store 
 as well as Kobo and Barnes and Noble's nook store? I've been out of town for 
 a few days and could not believe the number of messages I just went through, 
 so it is possible this has been answered and I missed it in the flood.

 Mary

 Mary Otten
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Re: Reading ebooks on the Mac

2011-07-27 Thread Max
Thank you Jane. I downloaded Adobe Digital Editions 1.8 preview and it
seems to be quite accessible with Voice Over. At the moment i can
only  read by page - but maybe i just haven't found the short cut keys
for reading by line etc yet. I'm also finding that after every page i
manually have to click on next page before it goes on. Do you know if
there is a setting to make pages turn automatically?
Either way, it is a massive improvement over the previous Digital
Editions App which wasn't at all accessible.



Jane wrote:
 Hi there.  Yes I am talking a bout 1.8 Beta for Adobe Digital Editions.

 As for Overdrive, not talking about those.  I'm talking specifically about 
 Kobo Books--I thought that's what the person was referring to.  Overdrive 
 books are supposed to be supported now with adobe 1.8.  I have yet to find 
 out, but I plan to--soon.

 Jane


 On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:42 PM, Esther wrote:

  Hi Jane,
 
  Wow, this must be the 1.8 beta that is supposed to add accessibility 
  support.  According to the MacUpdate page, this was released July 20, 2011. 
  Is this usable? The current stable version of Adobe Digital Editions 
  (1.7.2) does not let VoiceOver read anything.  The MacUpdate reviews of 
  this product (stable versions) by sighted users are at the lowest ratings.  
  Have things gotten better? On the iPad are you using this with OverDrive? 
  (since BlueFire Reader, the other app that supports library downloadable 
  ADE DRM renders even books without DRM protection unreadable by VoiceOver).
 
  Cheers,
 
  Esther
 
  On Jul 26, 2011, at 11:20, Jane wrote:
 
  I am currently using Adobe Digital Edition 1.8 to read books from Kobo on 
  the Mac.  I am also getting it to work on the iPad.  It takes some 
  fiddling, but you can read books from there with either the Mac or the 
  iPad or other iDevice.
 
  Jane
 
 
  On Jul 26, 2011, at 4:36 PM, Max wrote:
 
  Hi. Can anyone give some advice on reading e-books on the Mac?
  I've tried the Kindle and Kobo apps for Mac and they are both not
  accessible.
  I know that Stanza can read some DRM-free formats - but that only
  takes you so far.
  Are there any Mac solutions that are as easy to use and accessible as
  iBooks on the iPhone?
  Please help
  Thanks
  Max
 
 
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Re: Reading ebooks on the Mac

2011-07-27 Thread Teresa Cochran
This is great news. I haven't checked out some of the books I've wanted to from 
the library because of the lack of accessibility.. Now it seems I can.

Thanks,
Teresa
On Jul 27, 2011, at 6:37 AM, Max wrote:

 Thank you Jane. I downloaded Adobe Digital Editions 1.8 preview and it
 seems to be quite accessible with Voice Over. At the moment i can
 only  read by page - but maybe i just haven't found the short cut keys
 for reading by line etc yet. I'm also finding that after every page i
 manually have to click on next page before it goes on. Do you know if
 there is a setting to make pages turn automatically?
 Either way, it is a massive improvement over the previous Digital
 Editions App which wasn't at all accessible.
 
 
 
 Jane wrote:
 Hi there.  Yes I am talking a bout 1.8 Beta for Adobe Digital Editions.
 
 As for Overdrive, not talking about those.  I'm talking specifically about 
 Kobo Books--I thought that's what the person was referring to.  Overdrive 
 books are supposed to be supported now with adobe 1.8.  I have yet to find 
 out, but I plan to--soon.
 
 Jane
 
 
 On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:42 PM, Esther wrote:
 
 Hi Jane,
 
 Wow, this must be the 1.8 beta that is supposed to add accessibility 
 support.  According to the MacUpdate page, this was released July 20, 2011. 
 Is this usable? The current stable version of Adobe Digital Editions 
 (1.7.2) does not let VoiceOver read anything.  The MacUpdate reviews of 
 this product (stable versions) by sighted users are at the lowest ratings.  
 Have things gotten better? On the iPad are you using this with OverDrive? 
 (since BlueFire Reader, the other app that supports library downloadable 
 ADE DRM renders even books without DRM protection unreadable by VoiceOver).
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Jul 26, 2011, at 11:20, Jane wrote:
 
 I am currently using Adobe Digital Edition 1.8 to read books from Kobo on 
 the Mac.  I am also getting it to work on the iPad.  It takes some 
 fiddling, but you can read books from there with either the Mac or the 
 iPad or other iDevice.
 
 Jane
 
 
 On Jul 26, 2011, at 4:36 PM, Max wrote:
 
 Hi. Can anyone give some advice on reading e-books on the Mac?
 I've tried the Kindle and Kobo apps for Mac and they are both not
 accessible.
 I know that Stanza can read some DRM-free formats - but that only
 takes you so far.
 Are there any Mac solutions that are as easy to use and accessible as
 iBooks on the iPhone?
 Please help
 Thanks
 Max
 
 
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Re: Reading ebooks on the Mac

2011-07-27 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Max,

I'm not Jane, but I've started using Adobe Digital Editions Preview. 
Theoretically, you can interact with the page and read using the usual VO 
reading commands. However, I find that every time I interact with the page, VO 
crashes.

As for continuous reading, it isn't currently possible, but you can speed up 
page turning by creating your own shortcuts for Previous Page and Next Page.

Cheers,

Anne


On 27 Jul 2011, at 15:37, Max wrote:

 Thank you Jane. I downloaded Adobe Digital Editions 1.8 preview and it
 seems to be quite accessible with Voice Over. At the moment i can
 only  read by page - but maybe i just haven't found the short cut keys
 for reading by line etc yet. I'm also finding that after every page i
 manually have to click on next page before it goes on. Do you know if
 there is a setting to make pages turn automatically?
 Either way, it is a massive improvement over the previous Digital
 Editions App which wasn't at all accessible.
 
 
 
 Jane wrote:
 Hi there.  Yes I am talking a bout 1.8 Beta for Adobe Digital Editions.
 
 As for Overdrive, not talking about those.  I'm talking specifically about 
 Kobo Books--I thought that's what the person was referring to.  Overdrive 
 books are supposed to be supported now with adobe 1.8.  I have yet to find 
 out, but I plan to--soon.
 
 Jane
 
 
 On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:42 PM, Esther wrote:
 
 Hi Jane,
 
 Wow, this must be the 1.8 beta that is supposed to add accessibility 
 support.  According to the MacUpdate page, this was released July 20, 2011. 
 Is this usable? The current stable version of Adobe Digital Editions 
 (1.7.2) does not let VoiceOver read anything.  The MacUpdate reviews of 
 this product (stable versions) by sighted users are at the lowest ratings.  
 Have things gotten better? On the iPad are you using this with OverDrive? 
 (since BlueFire Reader, the other app that supports library downloadable 
 ADE DRM renders even books without DRM protection unreadable by VoiceOver).
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Jul 26, 2011, at 11:20, Jane wrote:
 
 I am currently using Adobe Digital Edition 1.8 to read books from Kobo on 
 the Mac.  I am also getting it to work on the iPad.  It takes some 
 fiddling, but you can read books from there with either the Mac or the 
 iPad or other iDevice.
 
 Jane
 
 
 On Jul 26, 2011, at 4:36 PM, Max wrote:
 
 Hi. Can anyone give some advice on reading e-books on the Mac?
 I've tried the Kindle and Kobo apps for Mac and they are both not
 accessible.
 I know that Stanza can read some DRM-free formats - but that only
 takes you so far.
 Are there any Mac solutions that are as easy to use and accessible as
 iBooks on the iPhone?
 Please help
 Thanks
 Max
 
 
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Re: Reading ebooks on the Mac

2011-07-27 Thread Jane
I just use the arrow keys for previous and next page.  Left for previous, right 
for next.

Jane


On Jul 27, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:

 Hello Max,
 
 I'm not Jane, but I've started using Adobe Digital Editions Preview. 
 Theoretically, you can interact with the page and read using the usual VO 
 reading commands. However, I find that every time I interact with the page, 
 VO crashes.
 
 As for continuous reading, it isn't currently possible, but you can speed up 
 page turning by creating your own shortcuts for Previous Page and Next Page.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 27 Jul 2011, at 15:37, Max wrote:
 
 Thank you Jane. I downloaded Adobe Digital Editions 1.8 preview and it
 seems to be quite accessible with Voice Over. At the moment i can
 only  read by page - but maybe i just haven't found the short cut keys
 for reading by line etc yet. I'm also finding that after every page i
 manually have to click on next page before it goes on. Do you know if
 there is a setting to make pages turn automatically?
 Either way, it is a massive improvement over the previous Digital
 Editions App which wasn't at all accessible.
 
 
 
 Jane wrote:
 Hi there.  Yes I am talking a bout 1.8 Beta for Adobe Digital Editions.
 
 As for Overdrive, not talking about those.  I'm talking specifically about 
 Kobo Books--I thought that's what the person was referring to.  Overdrive 
 books are supposed to be supported now with adobe 1.8.  I have yet to find 
 out, but I plan to--soon.
 
 Jane
 
 
 On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:42 PM, Esther wrote:
 
 Hi Jane,
 
 Wow, this must be the 1.8 beta that is supposed to add accessibility 
 support.  According to the MacUpdate page, this was released July 20, 
 2011. Is this usable? The current stable version of Adobe Digital Editions 
 (1.7.2) does not let VoiceOver read anything.  The MacUpdate reviews of 
 this product (stable versions) by sighted users are at the lowest ratings. 
  Have things gotten better? On the iPad are you using this with OverDrive? 
 (since BlueFire Reader, the other app that supports library downloadable 
 ADE DRM renders even books without DRM protection unreadable by VoiceOver).
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Jul 26, 2011, at 11:20, Jane wrote:
 
 I am currently using Adobe Digital Edition 1.8 to read books from Kobo on 
 the Mac.  I am also getting it to work on the iPad.  It takes some 
 fiddling, but you can read books from there with either the Mac or the 
 iPad or other iDevice.
 
 Jane
 
 
 On Jul 26, 2011, at 4:36 PM, Max wrote:
 
 Hi. Can anyone give some advice on reading e-books on the Mac?
 I've tried the Kindle and Kobo apps for Mac and they are both not
 accessible.
 I know that Stanza can read some DRM-free formats - but that only
 takes you so far.
 Are there any Mac solutions that are as easy to use and accessible as
 iBooks on the iPhone?
 Please help
 Thanks
 Max
 
 
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Reading ebooks on the Mac

2011-07-26 Thread Max
Hi. Can anyone give some advice on reading e-books on the Mac?
I've tried the Kindle and Kobo apps for Mac and they are both not
accessible.
I know that Stanza can read some DRM-free formats - but that only
takes you so far.
Are there any Mac solutions that are as easy to use and accessible as
iBooks on the iPhone?
Please help
Thanks
Max

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Re: Reading ebooks on the Mac

2011-07-26 Thread Jane
I am currently using Adobe Digital Edition 1.8 to read books from Kobo on the 
Mac.  I am also getting it to work on the iPad.  It takes some fiddling, but 
you can read books from there with either the Mac or the iPad or other iDevice.

Jane


On Jul 26, 2011, at 4:36 PM, Max wrote:

 Hi. Can anyone give some advice on reading e-books on the Mac?
 I've tried the Kindle and Kobo apps for Mac and they are both not
 accessible.
 I know that Stanza can read some DRM-free formats - but that only
 takes you so far.
 Are there any Mac solutions that are as easy to use and accessible as
 iBooks on the iPhone?
 Please help
 Thanks
 Max
 
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Re: Reading ebooks on the Mac

2011-07-26 Thread Esther
Hi Jane,

Wow, this must be the 1.8 beta that is supposed to add accessibility support.  
According to the MacUpdate page, this was released July 20, 2011. Is this 
usable? The current stable version of Adobe Digital Editions (1.7.2) does not 
let VoiceOver read anything.  The MacUpdate reviews of this product (stable 
versions) by sighted users are at the lowest ratings.  Have things gotten 
better? On the iPad are you using this with OverDrive? (since BlueFire Reader, 
the other app that supports library downloadable ADE DRM renders even books 
without DRM protection unreadable by VoiceOver).

Cheers,

Esther
 
On Jul 26, 2011, at 11:20, Jane wrote:

 I am currently using Adobe Digital Edition 1.8 to read books from Kobo on the 
 Mac.  I am also getting it to work on the iPad.  It takes some fiddling, but 
 you can read books from there with either the Mac or the iPad or other 
 iDevice.
 
 Jane
 
 
 On Jul 26, 2011, at 4:36 PM, Max wrote:
 
 Hi. Can anyone give some advice on reading e-books on the Mac?
 I've tried the Kindle and Kobo apps for Mac and they are both not
 accessible.
 I know that Stanza can read some DRM-free formats - but that only
 takes you so far.
 Are there any Mac solutions that are as easy to use and accessible as
 iBooks on the iPhone?
 Please help
 Thanks
 Max
 

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Re: Reading ebooks on the Mac

2011-07-26 Thread Jane
Hi there.  Yes I am talking a bout 1.8 Beta for Adobe Digital Editions.

As for Overdrive, not talking about those.  I'm talking specifically about Kobo 
Books--I thought that's what the person was referring to.  Overdrive books are 
supposed to be supported now with adobe 1.8.  I have yet to find out, but I 
plan to--soon.

Jane


On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:42 PM, Esther wrote:

 Hi Jane,
 
 Wow, this must be the 1.8 beta that is supposed to add accessibility support. 
  According to the MacUpdate page, this was released July 20, 2011. Is this 
 usable? The current stable version of Adobe Digital Editions (1.7.2) does not 
 let VoiceOver read anything.  The MacUpdate reviews of this product (stable 
 versions) by sighted users are at the lowest ratings.  Have things gotten 
 better? On the iPad are you using this with OverDrive? (since BlueFire 
 Reader, the other app that supports library downloadable ADE DRM renders even 
 books without DRM protection unreadable by VoiceOver).
 
 Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Jul 26, 2011, at 11:20, Jane wrote:
 
 I am currently using Adobe Digital Edition 1.8 to read books from Kobo on 
 the Mac.  I am also getting it to work on the iPad.  It takes some fiddling, 
 but you can read books from there with either the Mac or the iPad or other 
 iDevice.
 
 Jane
 
 
 On Jul 26, 2011, at 4:36 PM, Max wrote:
 
 Hi. Can anyone give some advice on reading e-books on the Mac?
 I've tried the Kindle and Kobo apps for Mac and they are both not
 accessible.
 I know that Stanza can read some DRM-free formats - but that only
 takes you so far.
 Are there any Mac solutions that are as easy to use and accessible as
 iBooks on the iPhone?
 Please help
 Thanks
 Max
 
 
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