RE: Screen curtain on 7 plus.

2016-12-01 Thread Simon Fogarty 
Thnaks David,

 I think I've been trying to move things the old way.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of David Chittenden
Sent: Friday, 2 December 2016 11:14 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen curtain on 7 plus.

If one has the latest iOS installed, the new way to move apps follows:
First, remember that apps are in a grid on the iDevice home screens.
Locate the app to be moved, either by horizontal flicking to it, or by actually 
finding it on the screen.
Make sure the rotor is on action
Use a single-finger vertical flick
When VO announces arrange Apps, double tap Single-finger vertical flick until 
VO announces Move App, then double-tap Move VO to an app next to where you want 
the app to be located Single-finger vertical flick to the desired option and 
double-tap. The desired options include: Place app to the right, Place app to 
the left, (depending on if at a folder or an app) create folder with app or 
place app in folder There is a podcast on Applevis which demonstrates how to 
use the new move feature.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 2/12/2016, at 10:15, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> I too Simon can't get the moving of apps to work, never could.  I just have 
> the home screen layout in settings sort my apps alphabetically.
> 
> Kawal.
>> On 30 Nov 2016, at 08:48, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Kawal,
>> 
>> Yeah I find a new guesture every couple of days, It's crazy but 
>> great.
>> 
>> But I still can't get the moving of apps to work correctly.
>> 
>> Mind you I couldn't get the old version to work properly either.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
>> Sent: Wednesday, 30 November 2016 9:35 AM
>> To: Macvisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Screen curtain on 7 plus.
>> 
>> Hi Simon.
>> 
>> Thanks for the correction.
>> 
>> The problem on my phone is fixed now.  It was the Zoom and I think it 
>> drained my battery too.  I remember now turning it on thinking nothing would 
>> happen.  I think I did it when I set up my phone but because of what 
>> happened, I turned it off.
>> 
>> There are lots of new gestures on the phone which I don't know about.  One 
>> day I'll sit and read the manual and learn them.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>>> On 29 Nov 2016, at 07:43, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Kawal,
>>> 
>>> The three finger triple click is curtain on / off,
>>> 
>>> Three finger double click is mute sound off / on,
>>> 
>>> I get it wrong sometimes
>>> Could you be missing a tap or something.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal 
>>> Gucukoglu
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2016 9:29 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Screen curtain on 7 plus.
>>> 
>>> When I do three finger triple tap, it turns my speech off. So what is going 
>>> on?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 28 Nov 2016, at 8:11 pm, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Screen curtain is three finger triple tap.
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 28, 2016, at 12:02 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just to clarify Mary screen curtain is Three  finger double tap?   It 
>>>>> works with my braille display, space for sign chorded.  I can't remember 
>>>>> if it worked last week as I have just taken notice of it now.  The 
>>>>> battery seems OK now though.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So if screen curtain works with my braille display then I am doing 
>>>>> something wrong with my gesture, unless it's changed?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 28 Nov 2016, at 17:50, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I had that rapid battery drain happened to me last week or the week 
>>>>>> before. I don't exactly know what caused it. I do know that I had used 
>>>>>> the

Re: Screen curtain on 7 plus.

2016-12-01 Thread David Chittenden 
'Go to settings, general, reset, reset home screen layout.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone

> On 2/12/2016, at 14:37, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> How do you sort automatically?
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 1, 2016, at 4:15 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I too Simon can't get the moving of apps to work, never could.  I just have 
>> the home screen layout in settings sort my apps alphabetically.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>>> On 30 Nov 2016, at 08:48, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Kawal,
>>> 
>>> Yeah I find a new guesture every couple of days, 
>>> It's crazy but great.
>>> 
>>> But I still can't get the moving of apps to work correctly.
>>> 
>>> Mind you I couldn't get the old version to work properly either.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 30 November 2016 9:35 AM
>>> To: Macvisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Screen curtain on 7 plus.
>>> 
>>> Hi Simon.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the correction.
>>> 
>>> The problem on my phone is fixed now.  It was the Zoom and I think it 
>>> drained my battery too.  I remember now turning it on thinking nothing 
>>> would happen.  I think I did it when I set up my phone but because of what 
>>> happened, I turned it off.
>>> 
>>> There are lots of new gestures on the phone which I don't know about.  One 
>>> day I'll sit and read the manual and learn them.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>>> On 29 Nov 2016, at 07:43, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Kawal,
>>>> 
>>>> The three finger triple click is curtain on / off,
>>>> 
>>>> Three finger double click is mute sound off / on,
>>>> 
>>>> I get it wrong sometimes 
>>>> Could you be missing a tap or something.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2016 9:29 AM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Screen curtain on 7 plus.
>>>> 
>>>> When I do three finger triple tap, it turns my speech off. So what is 
>>>> going on?
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On 28 Nov 2016, at 8:11 pm, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Screen curtain is three finger triple tap.
>>>>> Mary
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 28, 2016, at 12:02 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just to clarify Mary screen curtain is Three  finger double tap?   It 
>>>>>> works with my braille display, space for sign chorded.  I can't remember 
>>>>>> if it worked last week as I have just taken notice of it now.  The 
>>>>>> battery seems OK now though.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So if screen curtain works with my braille display then I am doing 
>>>>>> something wrong with my gesture, unless it's changed?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 28 Nov 2016, at 17:50, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I had that rapid battery drain happened to me last week or the week 
>>>>>>> before. I don't exactly know what caused it. I do know that I had used 
>>>>>>> the Best Buy app which told me to turn on GPS and then wanted me to 
>>>>>>> activate location services for that app so it could put up a geo-fence 
>>>>>>> for my store. I suspected that this app was the culprit. So I turned 
>>>>>>> off location services for it and rebooted. The faster than normal 
>>>>>>> battery drain happened still. Then I turned on one of my blindness GPS 
>>>>>>> apps, used it, turned it off, rebooted, and now my battery dra

Re: Screen curtain on 7 plus.

2016-12-01 Thread Jonathan Cohn 
How do you sort automatically?
Best wishes,

Jonathan



> On Dec 1, 2016, at 4:15 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> I too Simon can't get the moving of apps to work, never could.  I just have 
> the home screen layout in settings sort my apps alphabetically.
> 
> Kawal.
>> On 30 Nov 2016, at 08:48, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Kawal,
>> 
>> Yeah I find a new guesture every couple of days, 
>> It's crazy but great.
>> 
>> But I still can't get the moving of apps to work correctly.
>> 
>> Mind you I couldn't get the old version to work properly either.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
>> Sent: Wednesday, 30 November 2016 9:35 AM
>> To: Macvisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Screen curtain on 7 plus.
>> 
>> Hi Simon.
>> 
>> Thanks for the correction.
>> 
>> The problem on my phone is fixed now.  It was the Zoom and I think it 
>> drained my battery too.  I remember now turning it on thinking nothing would 
>> happen.  I think I did it when I set up my phone but because of what 
>> happened, I turned it off.
>> 
>> There are lots of new gestures on the phone which I don't know about.  One 
>> day I'll sit and read the manual and learn them.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>>> On 29 Nov 2016, at 07:43, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Kawal,
>>> 
>>> The three finger triple click is curtain on / off,
>>> 
>>> Three finger double click is mute sound off / on,
>>> 
>>> I get it wrong sometimes 
>>> Could you be missing a tap or something.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2016 9:29 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Screen curtain on 7 plus.
>>> 
>>> When I do three finger triple tap, it turns my speech off. So what is going 
>>> on?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 28 Nov 2016, at 8:11 pm, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Screen curtain is three finger triple tap.
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 28, 2016, at 12:02 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just to clarify Mary screen curtain is Three  finger double tap?   It 
>>>>> works with my braille display, space for sign chorded.  I can't remember 
>>>>> if it worked last week as I have just taken notice of it now.  The 
>>>>> battery seems OK now though.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So if screen curtain works with my braille display then I am doing 
>>>>> something wrong with my gesture, unless it's changed?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 28 Nov 2016, at 17:50, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I had that rapid battery drain happened to me last week or the week 
>>>>>> before. I don't exactly know what caused it. I do know that I had used 
>>>>>> the Best Buy app which told me to turn on GPS and then wanted me to 
>>>>>> activate location services for that app so it could put up a geo-fence 
>>>>>> for my store. I suspected that this app was the culprit. So I turned off 
>>>>>> location services for it and rebooted. The faster than normal battery 
>>>>>> drain happened still. Then I turned on one of my blindness GPS apps, 
>>>>>> used it, turned it off, rebooted, and now my battery drain is back to  
>>>>>> slow, which is what it should be. Was all that necessary? Was it just 
>>>>>> coincidental having to do with the GPS thing or not? Of course I don't 
>>>>>> know. I have never had a problem with the screen curtain turning on and 
>>>>>> off.
>>>>>> Mary
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Nov 28, 2016, at 9:45 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>&

Re: Screen curtain on 7 plus.

2016-12-01 Thread E.T. 

Kawal,
   The old method of moving apps requires patience but is still quite 
doable. I still use it from force of habit.


   The new method, which David has described, is even easier once you 
learn the steps.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 12/1/2016 1:15 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

I too Simon can't get the moving of apps to work, never could.  I just have the 
home screen layout in settings sort my apps alphabetically.

Kawal.

On 30 Nov 2016, at 08:48, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:

Hi Kawal,

Yeah I find a new guesture every couple of days,
It's crazy but great.

But I still can't get the moving of apps to work correctly.

Mind you I couldn't get the old version to work properly either.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: Wednesday, 30 November 2016 9:35 AM
To: Macvisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Screen curtain on 7 plus.

Hi Simon.

Thanks for the correction.

The problem on my phone is fixed now.  It was the Zoom and I think it drained 
my battery too.  I remember now turning it on thinking nothing would happen.  I 
think I did it when I set up my phone but because of what happened, I turned it 
off.

There are lots of new gestures on the phone which I don't know about.  One day 
I'll sit and read the manual and learn them.

Kawal.

On 29 Nov 2016, at 07:43, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:

Kawal,

The three finger triple click is curtain on / off,

Three finger double click is mute sound off / on,

I get it wrong sometimes
Could you be missing a tap or something.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2016 9:29 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen curtain on 7 plus.

When I do three finger triple tap, it turns my speech off. So what is going on?

Sent from my iPhone


On 28 Nov 2016, at 8:11 pm, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:

Screen curtain is three finger triple tap.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 28, 2016, at 12:02 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:

Just to clarify Mary screen curtain is Three  finger double tap?   It works 
with my braille display, space for sign chorded.  I can't remember if it worked 
last week as I have just taken notice of it now.  The battery seems OK now 
though.

So if screen curtain works with my braille display then I am doing something 
wrong with my gesture, unless it's changed?



On 28 Nov 2016, at 17:50, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:

I had that rapid battery drain happened to me last week or the week before. I 
don't exactly know what caused it. I do know that I had used the Best Buy app 
which told me to turn on GPS and then wanted me to activate location services 
for that app so it could put up a geo-fence for my store. I suspected that this 
app was the culprit. So I turned off location services for it and rebooted. The 
faster than normal battery drain happened still. Then I turned on one of my 
blindness GPS apps, used it, turned it off, rebooted, and now my battery drain 
is back to  slow, which is what it should be. Was all that necessary? Was it 
just coincidental having to do with the GPS thing or not? Of course I don't 
know. I have never had a problem with the screen curtain turning on and off.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 28, 2016, at 9:45 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:

I can't turn screen curtain on the I phone 7 plus.  Is there a problem?  Also I 
charged my battery to 100 % after I made it go flat.  This morning after my 
battery had been 68% it was 30 % and now it's 15 %.  It's the first time it's 
happened and I've had this phone since the 9th of November.

Kawal.

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Re: Screen curtain on 7 plus.

2016-12-01 Thread David Chittenden 
If one has the latest iOS installed, the new way to move apps follows:
First, remember that apps are in a grid on the iDevice home screens.
Locate the app to be moved, either by horizontal flicking to it, or by actually 
finding it on the screen.
Make sure the rotor is on action
Use a single-finger vertical flick
When VO announces arrange Apps, double tap
Single-finger vertical flick until VO announces Move App, then double-tap
Move VO to an app next to where you want the app to be located
Single-finger vertical flick to the desired option and double-tap. The desired 
options include: Place app to the right, Place app to the left, (depending on 
if at a folder or an app) create folder with app or place app in folder
There is a podcast on Applevis which demonstrates how to use the new move 
feature.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 2/12/2016, at 10:15, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> I too Simon can't get the moving of apps to work, never could.  I just have 
> the home screen layout in settings sort my apps alphabetically.
> 
> Kawal.
>> On 30 Nov 2016, at 08:48, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Kawal,
>> 
>> Yeah I find a new guesture every couple of days, 
>> It's crazy but great.
>> 
>> But I still can't get the moving of apps to work correctly.
>> 
>> Mind you I couldn't get the old version to work properly either.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
>> Sent: Wednesday, 30 November 2016 9:35 AM
>> To: Macvisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Screen curtain on 7 plus.
>> 
>> Hi Simon.
>> 
>> Thanks for the correction.
>> 
>> The problem on my phone is fixed now.  It was the Zoom and I think it 
>> drained my battery too.  I remember now turning it on thinking nothing would 
>> happen.  I think I did it when I set up my phone but because of what 
>> happened, I turned it off.
>> 
>> There are lots of new gestures on the phone which I don't know about.  One 
>> day I'll sit and read the manual and learn them.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>>> On 29 Nov 2016, at 07:43, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Kawal,
>>> 
>>> The three finger triple click is curtain on / off,
>>> 
>>> Three finger double click is mute sound off / on,
>>> 
>>> I get it wrong sometimes 
>>> Could you be missing a tap or something.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2016 9:29 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Screen curtain on 7 plus.
>>> 
>>> When I do three finger triple tap, it turns my speech off. So what is going 
>>> on?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 28 Nov 2016, at 8:11 pm, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Screen curtain is three finger triple tap.
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 28, 2016, at 12:02 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just to clarify Mary screen curtain is Three  finger double tap?   It 
>>>>> works with my braille display, space for sign chorded.  I can't remember 
>>>>> if it worked last week as I have just taken notice of it now.  The 
>>>>> battery seems OK now though.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So if screen curtain works with my braille display then I am doing 
>>>>> something wrong with my gesture, unless it's changed?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 28 Nov 2016, at 17:50, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I had that rapid battery drain happened to me last week or the week 
>>>>>> before. I don't exactly know what caused it. I do know that I had used 
>>>>>> the Best Buy app which told me to turn on GPS and then wanted me to 
>>>>>> activate location services for that app so it could put up a geo-fence 
>>>>>> for my store. I suspected that this app was the culprit. So I turned off 
>>>>>> location services for it and rebooted. The faste

Re: Screen curtain on 7 plus.

2016-12-01 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu 
I too Simon can't get the moving of apps to work, never could.  I just have the 
home screen layout in settings sort my apps alphabetically.

Kawal.
> On 30 Nov 2016, at 08:48, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Kawal,
> 
> Yeah I find a new guesture every couple of days, 
> It's crazy but great.
> 
> But I still can't get the moving of apps to work correctly.
> 
> Mind you I couldn't get the old version to work properly either.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
> Sent: Wednesday, 30 November 2016 9:35 AM
> To: Macvisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Screen curtain on 7 plus.
> 
> Hi Simon.
> 
> Thanks for the correction.
> 
> The problem on my phone is fixed now.  It was the Zoom and I think it drained 
> my battery too.  I remember now turning it on thinking nothing would happen.  
> I think I did it when I set up my phone but because of what happened, I 
> turned it off.
> 
> There are lots of new gestures on the phone which I don't know about.  One 
> day I'll sit and read the manual and learn them.
> 
> Kawal.
>> On 29 Nov 2016, at 07:43, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Kawal,
>> 
>> The three finger triple click is curtain on / off,
>> 
>> Three finger double click is mute sound off / on,
>> 
>> I get it wrong sometimes 
>> Could you be missing a tap or something.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
>> Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2016 9:29 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Screen curtain on 7 plus.
>> 
>> When I do three finger triple tap, it turns my speech off. So what is going 
>> on?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 28 Nov 2016, at 8:11 pm, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Screen curtain is three finger triple tap.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 28, 2016, at 12:02 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Just to clarify Mary screen curtain is Three  finger double tap?   It 
>>>> works with my braille display, space for sign chorded.  I can't remember 
>>>> if it worked last week as I have just taken notice of it now.  The battery 
>>>> seems OK now though.
>>>> 
>>>> So if screen curtain works with my braille display then I am doing 
>>>> something wrong with my gesture, unless it's changed?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 28 Nov 2016, at 17:50, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I had that rapid battery drain happened to me last week or the week 
>>>>> before. I don't exactly know what caused it. I do know that I had used 
>>>>> the Best Buy app which told me to turn on GPS and then wanted me to 
>>>>> activate location services for that app so it could put up a geo-fence 
>>>>> for my store. I suspected that this app was the culprit. So I turned off 
>>>>> location services for it and rebooted. The faster than normal battery 
>>>>> drain happened still. Then I turned on one of my blindness GPS apps, used 
>>>>> it, turned it off, rebooted, and now my battery drain is back to  slow, 
>>>>> which is what it should be. Was all that necessary? Was it just 
>>>>> coincidental having to do with the GPS thing or not? Of course I don't 
>>>>> know. I have never had a problem with the screen curtain turning on and 
>>>>> off.
>>>>> Mary
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 28, 2016, at 9:45 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I can't turn screen curtain on the I phone 7 plus.  Is there a problem?  
>>>>>> Also I charged my battery to 100 % after I made it go flat.  This 
>>>>>> morning after my battery had been 68% it was 30 % and now it's 15 %.  
>>>>>> It's the first time it's happened and I've had this phone since the 9th 
>>>>>> of November.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kawal.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> The following informati

RE: Screen curtain on 7 plus.

2016-11-30 Thread Simon Fogarty 
Hi Kawal,

 Yeah I find a new guesture every couple of days, 
It's crazy but great.

But I still can't get the moving of apps to work correctly.

Mind you I couldn't get the old version to work properly either.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: Wednesday, 30 November 2016 9:35 AM
To: Macvisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Screen curtain on 7 plus.

Hi Simon.

Thanks for the correction.

The problem on my phone is fixed now.  It was the Zoom and I think it drained 
my battery too.  I remember now turning it on thinking nothing would happen.  I 
think I did it when I set up my phone but because of what happened, I turned it 
off.

There are lots of new gestures on the phone which I don't know about.  One day 
I'll sit and read the manual and learn them.

Kawal.
> On 29 Nov 2016, at 07:43, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Kawal,
> 
> The three finger triple click is curtain on / off,
> 
> Three finger double click is mute sound off / on,
> 
> I get it wrong sometimes 
> Could you be missing a tap or something.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
> Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2016 9:29 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Screen curtain on 7 plus.
> 
> When I do three finger triple tap, it turns my speech off. So what is going 
> on?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 28 Nov 2016, at 8:11 pm, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Screen curtain is three finger triple tap.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 28, 2016, at 12:02 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just to clarify Mary screen curtain is Three  finger double tap?   It works 
>>> with my braille display, space for sign chorded.  I can't remember if it 
>>> worked last week as I have just taken notice of it now.  The battery seems 
>>> OK now though.
>>> 
>>> So if screen curtain works with my braille display then I am doing 
>>> something wrong with my gesture, unless it's changed?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 28 Nov 2016, at 17:50, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I had that rapid battery drain happened to me last week or the week 
>>>> before. I don't exactly know what caused it. I do know that I had used the 
>>>> Best Buy app which told me to turn on GPS and then wanted me to activate 
>>>> location services for that app so it could put up a geo-fence for my 
>>>> store. I suspected that this app was the culprit. So I turned off location 
>>>> services for it and rebooted. The faster than normal battery drain 
>>>> happened still. Then I turned on one of my blindness GPS apps, used it, 
>>>> turned it off, rebooted, and now my battery drain is back to  slow, which 
>>>> is what it should be. Was all that necessary? Was it just coincidental 
>>>> having to do with the GPS thing or not? Of course I don't know. I have 
>>>> never had a problem with the screen curtain turning on and off.
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 28, 2016, at 9:45 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I can't turn screen curtain on the I phone 7 plus.  Is there a problem?  
>>>>> Also I charged my battery to 100 % after I made it go flat.  This morning 
>>>>> after my battery had been 68% it was 30 % and now it's 15 %.  It's the 
>>>>> first time it's happened and I've had this phone since the 9th of 
>>>>> November.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kawal.
>>>>> 
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Re: Screen curtain on 7 plus.

2016-11-29 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu 
Hi Simon.

Thanks for the correction.

The problem on my phone is fixed now.  It was the Zoom and I think it drained 
my battery too.  I remember now turning it on thinking nothing would happen.  I 
think I did it when I set up my phone but because of what happened, I turned it 
off.

There are lots of new gestures on the phone which I don't know about.  One day 
I'll sit and read the manual and learn them.

Kawal.
> On 29 Nov 2016, at 07:43, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Kawal,
> 
> The three finger triple click is curtain on / off,
> 
> Three finger double click is mute sound off / on,
> 
> I get it wrong sometimes 
> Could you be missing a tap or something.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
> Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2016 9:29 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Screen curtain on 7 plus.
> 
> When I do three finger triple tap, it turns my speech off. So what is going 
> on?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 28 Nov 2016, at 8:11 pm, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Screen curtain is three finger triple tap.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 28, 2016, at 12:02 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just to clarify Mary screen curtain is Three  finger double tap?   It works 
>>> with my braille display, space for sign chorded.  I can't remember if it 
>>> worked last week as I have just taken notice of it now.  The battery seems 
>>> OK now though.
>>> 
>>> So if screen curtain works with my braille display then I am doing 
>>> something wrong with my gesture, unless it's changed?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 28 Nov 2016, at 17:50, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I had that rapid battery drain happened to me last week or the week 
>>>> before. I don't exactly know what caused it. I do know that I had used the 
>>>> Best Buy app which told me to turn on GPS and then wanted me to activate 
>>>> location services for that app so it could put up a geo-fence for my 
>>>> store. I suspected that this app was the culprit. So I turned off location 
>>>> services for it and rebooted. The faster than normal battery drain 
>>>> happened still. Then I turned on one of my blindness GPS apps, used it, 
>>>> turned it off, rebooted, and now my battery drain is back to  slow, which 
>>>> is what it should be. Was all that necessary? Was it just coincidental 
>>>> having to do with the GPS thing or not? Of course I don't know. I have 
>>>> never had a problem with the screen curtain turning on and off.
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 28, 2016, at 9:45 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I can't turn screen curtain on the I phone 7 plus.  Is there a problem?  
>>>>> Also I charged my battery to 100 % after I made it go flat.  This morning 
>>>>> after my battery had been 68% it was 30 % and now it's 15 %.  It's the 
>>>>> first time it's happened and I've had this phone since the 9th of 
>>>>> November.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kawal.
>>>>> 
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RE: Screen curtain on 7 plus.

2016-11-28 Thread Simon Fogarty 
Kawal,

 The three finger triple click is curtain on / off,

Three finger double click is mute sound off / on,

 I get it wrong sometimes 
Could you be missing a tap or something.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2016 9:29 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen curtain on 7 plus.

When I do three finger triple tap, it turns my speech off. So what is going on?

Sent from my iPhone

> On 28 Nov 2016, at 8:11 pm, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Screen curtain is three finger triple tap.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 28, 2016, at 12:02 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Just to clarify Mary screen curtain is Three  finger double tap?   It works 
>> with my braille display, space for sign chorded.  I can't remember if it 
>> worked last week as I have just taken notice of it now.  The battery seems 
>> OK now though.
>> 
>> So if screen curtain works with my braille display then I am doing something 
>> wrong with my gesture, unless it's changed?
>> 
>> 
>>> On 28 Nov 2016, at 17:50, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I had that rapid battery drain happened to me last week or the week before. 
>>> I don't exactly know what caused it. I do know that I had used the Best Buy 
>>> app which told me to turn on GPS and then wanted me to activate location 
>>> services for that app so it could put up a geo-fence for my store. I 
>>> suspected that this app was the culprit. So I turned off location services 
>>> for it and rebooted. The faster than normal battery drain happened still. 
>>> Then I turned on one of my blindness GPS apps, used it, turned it off, 
>>> rebooted, and now my battery drain is back to  slow, which is what it 
>>> should be. Was all that necessary? Was it just coincidental having to do 
>>> with the GPS thing or not? Of course I don't know. I have never had a 
>>> problem with the screen curtain turning on and off.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 28, 2016, at 9:45 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I can't turn screen curtain on the I phone 7 plus.  Is there a problem?  
>>>> Also I charged my battery to 100 % after I made it go flat.  This morning 
>>>> after my battery had been 68% it was 30 % and now it's 15 %.  It's the 
>>>> first time it's happened and I've had this phone since the 9th of November.
>>>> 
>>>> Kawal.
>>>> 
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RE: Screen curtain on 7 plus.

2016-11-28 Thread Simon Fogarty 
Hi kawal,

 No curtain is three finger triple tap, double tap with three fingers is the 
mute the sound of voiceover,

 Close dude, I make that mistake often.

 Hope that helps.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2016 9:02 AM
To: Macvisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Screen curtain on 7 plus.

Just to clarify Mary screen curtain is Three  finger double tap?   It works 
with my braille display, space for sign chorded.  I can't remember if it worked 
last week as I have just taken notice of it now.  The battery seems OK now 
though.

So if screen curtain works with my braille display then I am doing something 
wrong with my gesture, unless it's changed?


> On 28 Nov 2016, at 17:50, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I had that rapid battery drain happened to me last week or the week before. I 
> don't exactly know what caused it. I do know that I had used the Best Buy app 
> which told me to turn on GPS and then wanted me to activate location services 
> for that app so it could put up a geo-fence for my store. I suspected that 
> this app was the culprit. So I turned off location services for it and 
> rebooted. The faster than normal battery drain happened still. Then I turned 
> on one of my blindness GPS apps, used it, turned it off, rebooted, and now my 
> battery drain is back to  slow, which is what it should be. Was all that 
> necessary? Was it just coincidental having to do with the GPS thing or not? 
> Of course I don't know. I have never had a problem with the screen curtain 
> turning on and off.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 28, 2016, at 9:45 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I can't turn screen curtain on the I phone 7 plus.  Is there a problem?  
>> Also I charged my battery to 100 % after I made it go flat.  This morning 
>> after my battery had been 68% it was 30 % and now it's 15 %.  It's the first 
>> time it's happened and I've had this phone since the 9th of November.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
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Re: Screen curtain on 7 plus.

2016-11-28 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu 
I have turned Zumoff. Everything seems back to normal.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 28 Nov 2016, at 8:32 pm, David Chittenden  wrote:
> 
> Either, Zoom is on, or one of the taps is not being registered.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 29/11/2016, at 09:28, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> When I do three finger triple tap, it turns my speech off. So what is going 
>> on?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 28 Nov 2016, at 8:11 pm, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Screen curtain is three finger triple tap.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Nov 28, 2016, at 12:02 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
 
 Just to clarify Mary screen curtain is Three  finger double tap?   It 
 works with my braille display, space for sign chorded.  I can't remember 
 if it worked last week as I have just taken notice of it now.  The battery 
 seems OK now though.
 
 So if screen curtain works with my braille display then I am doing 
 something wrong with my gesture, unless it's changed?
 
 
> On 28 Nov 2016, at 17:50, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I had that rapid battery drain happened to me last week or the week 
> before. I don't exactly know what caused it. I do know that I had used 
> the Best Buy app which told me to turn on GPS and then wanted me to 
> activate location services for that app so it could put up a geo-fence 
> for my store. I suspected that this app was the culprit. So I turned off 
> location services for it and rebooted. The faster than normal battery 
> drain happened still. Then I turned on one of my blindness GPS apps, used 
> it, turned it off, rebooted, and now my battery drain is back to  slow, 
> which is what it should be. Was all that necessary? Was it just 
> coincidental having to do with the GPS thing or not? Of course I don't 
> know. I have never had a problem with the screen curtain turning on and 
> off.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 28, 2016, at 9:45 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> I can't turn screen curtain on the I phone 7 plus.  Is there a problem?  
>> Also I charged my battery to 100 % after I made it go flat.  This 
>> morning after my battery had been 68% it was 30 % and now it's 15 %.  
>> It's the first time it's happened and I've had this phone since the 9th 
>> of November.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
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Re: Screen curtain on 7 plus.

2016-11-28 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu 
It does keep saying zoom on. So how do you turn that off?

Sent from my iPhone

> On 28 Nov 2016, at 8:32 pm, David Chittenden  wrote:
> 
> Either, Zoom is on, or one of the taps is not being registered.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 29/11/2016, at 09:28, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> When I do three finger triple tap, it turns my speech off. So what is going 
>> on?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 28 Nov 2016, at 8:11 pm, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Screen curtain is three finger triple tap.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Nov 28, 2016, at 12:02 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
 
 Just to clarify Mary screen curtain is Three  finger double tap?   It 
 works with my braille display, space for sign chorded.  I can't remember 
 if it worked last week as I have just taken notice of it now.  The battery 
 seems OK now though.
 
 So if screen curtain works with my braille display then I am doing 
 something wrong with my gesture, unless it's changed?
 
 
> On 28 Nov 2016, at 17:50, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I had that rapid battery drain happened to me last week or the week 
> before. I don't exactly know what caused it. I do know that I had used 
> the Best Buy app which told me to turn on GPS and then wanted me to 
> activate location services for that app so it could put up a geo-fence 
> for my store. I suspected that this app was the culprit. So I turned off 
> location services for it and rebooted. The faster than normal battery 
> drain happened still. Then I turned on one of my blindness GPS apps, used 
> it, turned it off, rebooted, and now my battery drain is back to  slow, 
> which is what it should be. Was all that necessary? Was it just 
> coincidental having to do with the GPS thing or not? Of course I don't 
> know. I have never had a problem with the screen curtain turning on and 
> off.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 28, 2016, at 9:45 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> I can't turn screen curtain on the I phone 7 plus.  Is there a problem?  
>> Also I charged my battery to 100 % after I made it go flat.  This 
>> morning after my battery had been 68% it was 30 % and now it's 15 %.  
>> It's the first time it's happened and I've had this phone since the 9th 
>> of November.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
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Re: Screen curtain on 7 plus.

2016-11-28 Thread David Chittenden 
Either, Zoom is on, or one of the taps is not being registered.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 29/11/2016, at 09:28, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> When I do three finger triple tap, it turns my speech off. So what is going 
> on?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 28 Nov 2016, at 8:11 pm, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Screen curtain is three finger triple tap.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 28, 2016, at 12:02 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just to clarify Mary screen curtain is Three  finger double tap?   It works 
>>> with my braille display, space for sign chorded.  I can't remember if it 
>>> worked last week as I have just taken notice of it now.  The battery seems 
>>> OK now though.
>>> 
>>> So if screen curtain works with my braille display then I am doing 
>>> something wrong with my gesture, unless it's changed?
>>> 
>>> 
 On 28 Nov 2016, at 17:50, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 I had that rapid battery drain happened to me last week or the week 
 before. I don't exactly know what caused it. I do know that I had used the 
 Best Buy app which told me to turn on GPS and then wanted me to activate 
 location services for that app so it could put up a geo-fence for my 
 store. I suspected that this app was the culprit. So I turned off location 
 services for it and rebooted. The faster than normal battery drain 
 happened still. Then I turned on one of my blindness GPS apps, used it, 
 turned it off, rebooted, and now my battery drain is back to  slow, which 
 is what it should be. Was all that necessary? Was it just coincidental 
 having to do with the GPS thing or not? Of course I don't know. I have 
 never had a problem with the screen curtain turning on and off.
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> I can't turn screen curtain on the I phone 7 plus.  Is there a problem?  
> Also I charged my battery to 100 % after I made it go flat.  This morning 
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> first time it's happened and I've had this phone since the 9th of 
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Re: Screen curtain on 7 plus.

2016-11-28 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu 
When I do three finger triple tap, it turns my speech off. So what is going on?

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> On 28 Nov 2016, at 8:11 pm, Mary Otten  wrote:
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> Screen curtain is three finger triple tap.
> Mary
> 
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>> On Nov 28, 2016, at 12:02 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> Just to clarify Mary screen curtain is Three  finger double tap?   It works 
>> with my braille display, space for sign chorded.  I can't remember if it 
>> worked last week as I have just taken notice of it now.  The battery seems 
>> OK now though.
>> 
>> So if screen curtain works with my braille display then I am doing something 
>> wrong with my gesture, unless it's changed?
>> 
>> 
>>> On 28 Nov 2016, at 17:50, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I had that rapid battery drain happened to me last week or the week before. 
>>> I don't exactly know what caused it. I do know that I had used the Best Buy 
>>> app which told me to turn on GPS and then wanted me to activate location 
>>> services for that app so it could put up a geo-fence for my store. I 
>>> suspected that this app was the culprit. So I turned off location services 
>>> for it and rebooted. The faster than normal battery drain happened still. 
>>> Then I turned on one of my blindness GPS apps, used it, turned it off, 
>>> rebooted, and now my battery drain is back to  slow, which is what it 
>>> should be. Was all that necessary? Was it just coincidental having to do 
>>> with the GPS thing or not? Of course I don't know. I have never had a 
>>> problem with the screen curtain turning on and off.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
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 I can't turn screen curtain on the I phone 7 plus.  Is there a problem?  
 Also I charged my battery to 100 % after I made it go flat.  This morning 
 after my battery had been 68% it was 30 % and now it's 15 %.  It's the 
 first time it's happened and I've had this phone since the 9th of November.
 
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Re: Screen curtain on 7 plus.

2016-11-28 Thread Mary Otten 
 Screen curtain is three finger triple tap.
Mary


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> On Nov 28, 2016, at 12:02 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Just to clarify Mary screen curtain is Three  finger double tap?   It works 
> with my braille display, space for sign chorded.  I can't remember if it 
> worked last week as I have just taken notice of it now.  The battery seems OK 
> now though.
> 
> So if screen curtain works with my braille display then I am doing something 
> wrong with my gesture, unless it's changed?
> 
> 
>> On 28 Nov 2016, at 17:50, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> I had that rapid battery drain happened to me last week or the week before. 
>> I don't exactly know what caused it. I do know that I had used the Best Buy 
>> app which told me to turn on GPS and then wanted me to activate location 
>> services for that app so it could put up a geo-fence for my store. I 
>> suspected that this app was the culprit. So I turned off location services 
>> for it and rebooted. The faster than normal battery drain happened still. 
>> Then I turned on one of my blindness GPS apps, used it, turned it off, 
>> rebooted, and now my battery drain is back to  slow, which is what it should 
>> be. Was all that necessary? Was it just coincidental having to do with the 
>> GPS thing or not? Of course I don't know. I have never had a problem with 
>> the screen curtain turning on and off.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> 
>>> I can't turn screen curtain on the I phone 7 plus.  Is there a problem?  
>>> Also I charged my battery to 100 % after I made it go flat.  This morning 
>>> after my battery had been 68% it was 30 % and now it's 15 %.  It's the 
>>> first time it's happened and I've had this phone since the 9th of November.
>>> 
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Re: Screen curtain on 7 plus.

2016-11-28 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu 
Just to clarify Mary screen curtain is Three  finger double tap?   It works 
with my braille display, space for sign chorded.  I can't remember if it worked 
last week as I have just taken notice of it now.  The battery seems OK now 
though.

So if screen curtain works with my braille display then I am doing something 
wrong with my gesture, unless it's changed?


> On 28 Nov 2016, at 17:50, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I had that rapid battery drain happened to me last week or the week before. I 
> don't exactly know what caused it. I do know that I had used the Best Buy app 
> which told me to turn on GPS and then wanted me to activate location services 
> for that app so it could put up a geo-fence for my store. I suspected that 
> this app was the culprit. So I turned off location services for it and 
> rebooted. The faster than normal battery drain happened still. Then I turned 
> on one of my blindness GPS apps, used it, turned it off, rebooted, and now my 
> battery drain is back to  slow, which is what it should be. Was all that 
> necessary? Was it just coincidental having to do with the GPS thing or not? 
> Of course I don't know. I have never had a problem with the screen curtain 
> turning on and off.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 28, 2016, at 9:45 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> I can't turn screen curtain on the I phone 7 plus.  Is there a problem?  
>> Also I charged my battery to 100 % after I made it go flat.  This morning 
>> after my battery had been 68% it was 30 % and now it's 15 %.  It's the first 
>> time it's happened and I've had this phone since the 9th of November.
>> 
>> Kawal.
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Re: Screen curtain on 7 plus.

2016-11-28 Thread Mary Otten 
I had that rapid battery drain happened to me last week or the week before. I 
don't exactly know what caused it. I do know that I had used the Best Buy app 
which told me to turn on GPS and then wanted me to activate location services 
for that app so it could put up a geo-fence for my store. I suspected that this 
app was the culprit. So I turned off location services for it and rebooted. The 
faster than normal battery drain happened still. Then I turned on one of my 
blindness GPS apps, used it, turned it off, rebooted, and now my battery drain 
is back to  slow, which is what it should be. Was all that necessary? Was it 
just coincidental having to do with the GPS thing or not? Of course I don't 
know. I have never had a problem with the screen curtain turning on and off.
Mary


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Screen curtain on 7 plus.

2016-11-28 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu 
I can't turn screen curtain on the I phone 7 plus.  Is there a problem?  Also I 
charged my battery to 100 % after I made it go flat.  This morning after my 
battery had been 68% it was 30 % and now it's 15 %.  It's the first time it's 
happened and I've had this phone since the 9th of November.

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