Re: VoiceOver Verbosity Problems

[christopher hallsworth]

Yes it does here too, I changed it from high to low to see if I could 
reproduce, no fat chance.
> On 11 Oct 2016, at 14:17, -dan d.  wrote:
> 
> 
> You might try vo+v which brings up a speech control menu.  Verbosity is among 
> the items.  The changes persist in my experience.
> 
> On Mon, 10 Oct 2016, Brian Hansen wrote:
> 
>> Hi Anne,
>> 
>> Well, no luck on this end.  I even tried restoring the VO default settings, 
>> and reset the PRAM a second time.  The settings definitely aren?t sticking, 
>> and I?m currently stuck in the high-verbosity setting even though the VO 
>> Utility shows it set to low.  Anything else I can try, besides a larger 
>> hammer?  
>> 
>> Blessings,
>> 
>> Brian
>> 
>>> On Oct 10, 2016, at 1:41 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Brian,
>>> 
>>> We came across a similar problem of settings not sticking in Sierra this 
>>> weekend with a student of ours. Reinitialising the PRAM fixed the problem.
>>> If you?re not familiar with this procedure, here?s what to do.
>>> Shut down your Mac, then hold down the following keys: Command, Option, 
>>> letter ?p? and letter ?r?. With these four keys held down, press once on 
>>> the Power button. Keep the four keys held down until you?ve heard the start 
>>> up chime four times. Your Mac will then boot normally.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 10 Oct 2016, at 06:42, Brian Hansen  wrote:
 
 I?m running the latest release of MacOS Sierra, and I?m running into a bit 
 of a problem with the default verbosity settings.  For what ever reason, 
 VoiceOver seems to be stuck in the high-verbosity setting.  I?ve tried  
 changing it to low, but VO keeps reading and chattering away in the high 
 verbosity mode.  When I go back into the VO Utility, it still shows that 
 it?s set to low, but for what ever reason, VO doesn?t seem to know that 
 any setting has changed.
 
 I?ve tried turning VO off, and then back on again, re-booting the Mac, 
 restoring the VO defaults in the VO Utilities, and even loading some 
 completely different settings from my wife?s account.  At this point, 
 nothing seems to work.  Any and all help or ideas would be greatly 
 appreciated.
 
 Blessings,
 
 Brian
 
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Re: VoiceOver Verbosity Problems

[-dan d.]

You might try vo+v which brings up a speech control menu.  Verbosity is 
among the items.  The changes persist in my experience.


On Mon, 10 Oct 2016, Brian Hansen wrote:


Hi Anne,

Well, no luck on this end.  I even tried restoring the VO default settings, and reset 
the PRAM a second time.  The settings definitely aren?t sticking, and I?m currently 
stuck in the high-verbosity setting even though the VO Utility shows it set to low.  
Anything else I can try, besides a larger hammer?  

Blessings,

Brian


On Oct 10, 2016, at 1:41 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:

Hello Brian,

We came across a similar problem of settings not sticking in Sierra this 
weekend with a student of ours. Reinitialising the PRAM fixed the problem.
If you?re not familiar with this procedure, here?s what to do.
Shut down your Mac, then hold down the following keys: Command, Option, letter 
?p? and letter ?r?. With these four keys held down, press once on the Power 
button. Keep the four keys held down until you?ve heard the start up chime four 
times. Your Mac will then boot normally.

Cheers,

Anne




On 10 Oct 2016, at 06:42, Brian Hansen  wrote:

I?m running the latest release of MacOS Sierra, and I?m running into a bit of a 
problem with the default verbosity settings.  For what ever reason, VoiceOver 
seems to be stuck in the high-verbosity setting.  I?ve tried  changing it to 
low, but VO keeps reading and chattering away in the high verbosity mode.  When 
I go back into the VO Utility, it still shows that it?s set to low, but for 
what ever reason, VO doesn?t seem to know that any setting has changed.

I?ve tried turning VO off, and then back on again, re-booting the Mac, 
restoring the VO defaults in the VO Utilities, and even loading some completely 
different settings from my wife?s account.  At this point, nothing seems to 
work.  Any and all help or ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Blessings,

Brian

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Re: VoiceOver Verbosity Problems

[Jonathan C. Cohn]

Use the reset option in voiceover utility? If that doesn't work, you could look 
at permissions of com.apple.VoiceOver4 directory under Preferences under 
~/Library   

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn 

> On Oct 10, 2016, at 12:06 PM, Brian Hansen  wrote:
> 
> Hi Anne,
> 
> Well, no luck on this end.  I even tried restoring the VO default settings, 
> and reset the PRAM a second time.  The settings definitely aren’t sticking, 
> and I’m currently stuck in the high-verbosity setting even though the VO 
> Utility shows it set to low.  Anything else I can try, besides a larger 
> hammer?  
> 
> Blessings,
> 
> Brian
> 
>> On Oct 10, 2016, at 1:41 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Brian,
>> 
>> We came across a similar problem of settings not sticking in Sierra this 
>> weekend with a student of ours. Reinitialising the PRAM fixed the problem.
>> If you’re not familiar with this procedure, here’s what to do.
>> Shut down your Mac, then hold down the following keys: Command, Option, 
>> letter ‘p’ and letter ‘r’. With these four keys held down, press once on the 
>> Power button. Keep the four keys held down until you’ve heard the start up 
>> chime four times. Your Mac will then boot normally.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 10 Oct 2016, at 06:42, Brian Hansen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m running the latest release of MacOS Sierra, and I’m running into a bit 
>>> of a problem with the default verbosity settings.  For what ever reason, 
>>> VoiceOver seems to be stuck in the high-verbosity setting.  I’ve tried  
>>> changing it to low, but VO keeps reading and chattering away in the high 
>>> verbosity mode.  When I go back into the VO Utility, it still shows that 
>>> it’s set to low, but for what ever reason, VO doesn’t seem to know that any 
>>> setting has changed.
>>> 
>>> I’ve tried turning VO off, and then back on again, re-booting the Mac, 
>>> restoring the VO defaults in the VO Utilities, and even loading some 
>>> completely different settings from my wife’s account.  At this point, 
>>> nothing seems to work.  Any and all help or ideas would be greatly 
>>> appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Blessings,
>>> 
>>> Brian
>>> 
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Re: VoiceOver Verbosity Problems

[Brian Hansen]

Hi Anne,

Well, no luck on this end.  I even tried restoring the VO default settings, and 
reset the PRAM a second time.  The settings definitely aren’t sticking, and I’m 
currently stuck in the high-verbosity setting even though the VO Utility shows 
it set to low.  Anything else I can try, besides a larger hammer?  

Blessings,

Brian

> On Oct 10, 2016, at 1:41 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Brian,
> 
> We came across a similar problem of settings not sticking in Sierra this 
> weekend with a student of ours. Reinitialising the PRAM fixed the problem.
> If you’re not familiar with this procedure, here’s what to do.
> Shut down your Mac, then hold down the following keys: Command, Option, 
> letter ‘p’ and letter ‘r’. With these four keys held down, press once on the 
> Power button. Keep the four keys held down until you’ve heard the start up 
> chime four times. Your Mac will then boot normally.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10 Oct 2016, at 06:42, Brian Hansen  wrote:
>> 
>> I’m running the latest release of MacOS Sierra, and I’m running into a bit 
>> of a problem with the default verbosity settings.  For what ever reason, 
>> VoiceOver seems to be stuck in the high-verbosity setting.  I’ve tried  
>> changing it to low, but VO keeps reading and chattering away in the high 
>> verbosity mode.  When I go back into the VO Utility, it still shows that 
>> it’s set to low, but for what ever reason, VO doesn’t seem to know that any 
>> setting has changed.
>> 
>> I’ve tried turning VO off, and then back on again, re-booting the Mac, 
>> restoring the VO defaults in the VO Utilities, and even loading some 
>> completely different settings from my wife’s account.  At this point, 
>> nothing seems to work.  Any and all help or ideas would be greatly 
>> appreciated.
>> 
>> Blessings,
>> 
>> Brian
>> 
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Re: VoiceOver Verbosity Problems

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Brian,

We came across a similar problem of settings not sticking in Sierra this 
weekend with a student of ours. Reinitialising the PRAM fixed the problem.
If you’re not familiar with this procedure, here’s what to do.
Shut down your Mac, then hold down the following keys: Command, Option, letter 
‘p’ and letter ‘r’. With these four keys held down, press once on the Power 
button. Keep the four keys held down until you’ve heard the start up chime four 
times. Your Mac will then boot normally.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 10 Oct 2016, at 06:42, Brian Hansen  wrote:
> 
> I’m running the latest release of MacOS Sierra, and I’m running into a bit of 
> a problem with the default verbosity settings.  For what ever reason, 
> VoiceOver seems to be stuck in the high-verbosity setting.  I’ve tried  
> changing it to low, but VO keeps reading and chattering away in the high 
> verbosity mode.  When I go back into the VO Utility, it still shows that it’s 
> set to low, but for what ever reason, VO doesn’t seem to know that any 
> setting has changed.
> 
> I’ve tried turning VO off, and then back on again, re-booting the Mac, 
> restoring the VO defaults in the VO Utilities, and even loading some 
> completely different settings from my wife’s account.  At this point, nothing 
> seems to work.  Any and all help or ideas would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Blessings,
> 
> Brian
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VoiceOver Verbosity Problems

[Brian Hansen]

I’m running the latest release of MacOS Sierra, and I’m running into a bit of a 
problem with the default verbosity settings.  For what ever reason, VoiceOver 
seems to be stuck in the high-verbosity setting.  I’ve tried  changing it to 
low, but VO keeps reading and chattering away in the high verbosity mode.  When 
I go back into the VO Utility, it still shows that it’s set to low, but for 
what ever reason, VO doesn’t seem to know that any setting has changed.

I’ve tried turning VO off, and then back on again, re-booting the Mac, 
restoring the VO defaults in the VO Utilities, and even loading some completely 
different settings from my wife’s account.  At this point, nothing seems to 
work.  Any and all help or ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Blessings,

Brian

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