subject:"cursors"

Re: cursors

2019-09-17 Thread Lorie McCloud

oh I moved it using up and down arrows without interacting so I guess it works 
that way too.

> On Sep 17, 2019, at 7:21 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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>   It's a slider so you need to interact with it.
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> On 9/17/2019 5:08 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>> I found it in the announcements tab in verbosity. when I checked it it said 
>> "4 seconds" but I could arrow up to 0.
>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 6:08 PM, Dave Carlson >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Tim,
>>> I have mine set the same, except I can’t find where you have the mouse 
>>> cursor speaking after a 0 second delay. Where is that?
>>> 
>>> Dave Carlson
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Re: cursors

2019-09-17 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries


   It's a slider so you need to interact with it.

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On 9/17/2019 5:08 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
I found it in the announcements tab in verbosity. when I checked it it 
said "4 seconds" but I could arrow up to 0.


On Sep 17, 2019, at 6:08 PM, Dave Carlson > wrote:


Tim,
I have mine set the same, except I can’t find where you have the mouse 
cursor speaking after a 0 second delay. Where is that?


Dave Carlson
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Re: cursors and turning on Siri

2019-09-17 Thread Lorie McCloud

pretty cool! thanks.

> On Sep 17, 2019, at 5:45 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:
> 
> Open the main Menu VO M and go down to Preferences, interact with the 
> Preferences pain and arrow across until you find Siri. You can turn on things 
> like Hey Siri or set a key combo to talk to Siri, like command space.
> 
>> On 18/09/2019, at 10:21 AM, Lorie McCloud > <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> thanks. I hardly ever use siri on my Mac. maybe I should find out how to 
>> activate it. I have a touch pad but I mostly use the keyboard. I have a Mac 
>> Mini with a standard Apple keyboard. I have to use fn with vo and F8 in 
>> order to get the utility open.
>> 
>> Lorie
>> 
>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 5:15 PM, Petrus Tuerlings >> <mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I know Lorie has already opened Voice Over utility, but there is a few ways 
>>> of doing it. I try and do things manually  as  well but last week I had the 
>>> same brain block so I just asked Siri to open Voice over Utilities.  I’m 
>>> not sure if this one works on Macs without the Touch Bar but I can also 
>>> press the FN control option and the number 8 key on the number row. 
>>> 
>>>> On 18/09/2019, at 9:30 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>   VO-f8, or look in the Utilities folder.
>>>> 
>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>>> 
>>>> On 9/17/2019 2:23 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>>>>> I guess I need a memory refresh. I'm having trouble opening the vo 
>>>>> utility.
>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 4:12 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>> >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>   VO Utility, Navigation.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>>>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>>>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 9/17/2019 1:54 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>>>>>>> Tim, can you tell me how to set things the way you describe here? I 
>>>>>>> think that might help me navigate some websites.
>>>>>>> thanks.
>>>>>>> Lorie
>>>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 1:02 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I tend to havel cursors synchronized, and also have the mouse follow 
>>>>>>>> VO focus.  I've also set VO to read what's under the mouse after a 0 
>>>>>>>> second delay.  It works well for me except in some web situations 
>>>>>>>> whereby if the mouse is on certain locations, VO has focus 
>>>>>>>> difficulties.  Very rare though.  So, overall, it's kind of a personal 
>>>>>>>> preference.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Later...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>>>>> Apple Teacher
>>>>>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>>>>>>> Jamf Certified Associate
>>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 11:56, Barry Hadder >>>>>>> <mailto:bhad...@gmail.com> <mailto:bhad...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:bhad...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> control-option-arrows moves the vo cursor.  It can go where keyboard 
>>>>>>>> focus might not can.  Arrows or tab moves the system keyboard focus.
&g

Re: cursors

2019-09-17 Thread Lorie McCloud

I found it in the announcements tab in verbosity. when I checked it it said "4 
seconds" but I could arrow up to 0.

> On Sep 17, 2019, at 6:08 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
> 
> Tim,
> I have mine set the same, except I can’t find where you have the mouse cursor 
> speaking after a 0 second delay. Where is that?
> 
> Dave Carlson
> Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: cursors

2019-09-17 Thread Dave Carlson

Tim,
I have mine set the same, except I can’t find where you have the mouse cursor 
speaking after a 0 second delay. Where is that?

Dave Carlson
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Re: cursors and turning on Siri

2019-09-17 Thread Petrus Tuerlings

Open the main Menu VO M and go down to Preferences, interact with the 
Preferences pain and arrow across until you find Siri. You can turn on things 
like Hey Siri or set a key combo to talk to Siri, like command space.

> On 18/09/2019, at 10:21 AM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> thanks. I hardly ever use siri on my Mac. maybe I should find out how to 
> activate it. I have a touch pad but I mostly use the keyboard. I have a Mac 
> Mini with a standard Apple keyboard. I have to use fn with vo and F8 in order 
> to get the utility open.
> 
> Lorie
> 
>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 5:15 PM, Petrus Tuerlings > <mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I know Lorie has already opened Voice Over utility, but there is a few ways 
>> of doing it. I try and do things manually  as  well but last week I had the 
>> same brain block so I just asked Siri to open Voice over Utilities.  I’m not 
>> sure if this one works on Macs without the Touch Bar but I can also press 
>> the FN control option and the number 8 key on the number row. 
>> 
>>> On 18/09/2019, at 9:30 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>   VO-f8, or look in the Utilities folder.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>> On 9/17/2019 2:23 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>>>> I guess I need a memory refresh. I'm having trouble opening the vo utility.
>>>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 4:12 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>> >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>   VO Utility, Navigation.
>>>>> 
>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 9/17/2019 1:54 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>>>>>> Tim, can you tell me how to set things the way you describe here? I 
>>>>>> think that might help me navigate some websites.
>>>>>> thanks.
>>>>>> Lorie
>>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 1:02 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>> >>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I tend to havel cursors synchronized, and also have the mouse follow VO 
>>>>>>> focus.  I've also set VO to read what's under the mouse after a 0 
>>>>>>> second delay.  It works well for me except in some web situations 
>>>>>>> whereby if the mouse is on certain locations, VO has focus 
>>>>>>> difficulties.  Very rare though.  So, overall, it's kind of a personal 
>>>>>>> preference.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Later...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>>>> Apple Teacher
>>>>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>>>>>> Jamf Certified Associate
>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 11:56, Barry Hadder >>>>>> <mailto:bhad...@gmail.com> <mailto:bhad...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:bhad...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> control-option-arrows moves the vo cursor.  It can go where keyboard 
>>>>>>> focus might not can.  Arrows or tab moves the system keyboard focus.
>>>>>>> It is usually not advisable to have the mouse follow vo, but if you 
>>>>>>> lock the mouse it will follow vo automatically.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 12:27, hemachandran karah >>>>>>> <mailto:hemaka...@gmail.com> <mailto:hemaka...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:hemaka...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>>&g

Re: cursors

2019-09-17 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries

Personal preference. I set it to on which allows me to wrap on menus
for one thing.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
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On 9/17/2019 3:25 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:

what do you think about cursor wrapping? is yours on or off?
My Youtube Channel:
"www.youtube.com/loriemccloud <http://www.youtube.com/loriemccloud>

On Sep 17, 2019, at 5:22 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi,

As ET mentioned, the cursor tracking items are in the VO Utility under
the Navigation category. The items which has VO announce what's under
the mouse, is in the Verbosity category, in the Announcements tab.
You can toggle this on/off and set the delay before announcing. I
have it on, and no delay at all.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 17, 2019, at 15:30, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

VO-f8, or look in the Utilities folder.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 9/17/2019 2:23 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
I guess I need a memory refresh. I'm having trouble opening the vo
utility.
On Sep 17, 2019, at 4:12 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

VO Utility, Navigation.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 9/17/2019 1:54 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
Tim, can you tell me how to set things the way you describe here? I
think that might help me navigate some websites.

thanks.
Lorie
On Sep 17, 2019, at 1:02 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi,

I tend to havel cursors synchronized, and also have the mouse
follow VO focus. I've also set VO to read what's under the mouse
after a 0 second delay. It works well for me except in some web
situations whereby if the mouse is on certain locations, VO has
focus difficulties. Very rare though. So, overall, it's kind of
a personal preference.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 17, 2019, at 11:56, Barry Hadder <mailto:bhad...@gmail.com> <mailto:bhad...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi,

control-option-arrows moves the vo cursor. It can go where
keyboard focus might not can. Arrows or tab moves the system
keyboard focus.
It is usually not advisable to have the mouse follow vo, but if
you lock the mouse it will follow vo automatically.

On Sep 17, 2019, at 12:27, hemachandran karah
mailto:hemaka...@gmail.com>
<mailto:hemaka...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Dear all,

As a beginner, I can’t yet understand differences in cursor
positions. For example, should mouse cursor follow vo cursor? How
do I simulate various cursors? For what purposes?

I will be grateful for an answer.

Take care,
Hem.
Hemachandran Karah
HSS Faculty, IIT Madras.

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Re: cursors

2019-09-17 Thread Lorie McCloud

what do you think about cursor wrapping? is yours on or off?
My Youtube Channel:
"www.youtube.com/loriemccloud   

> On Sep 17, 2019, at 5:22 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> As ET mentioned, the cursor tracking items are in the VO Utility under the 
> Navigation category.  The items which has VO announce what's under the mouse, 
> is in the Verbosity category, in the Announcements tab.  You can toggle this 
> on/off and set the delay before announcing.  I have it on, and no delay at 
> all.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Sep 17, 2019, at 15:30, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
>   VO-f8, or look in the Utilities folder.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 9/17/2019 2:23 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>> I guess I need a memory refresh. I'm having trouble opening the vo utility.
>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 4:12 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>   VO Utility, Navigation.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>> On 9/17/2019 1:54 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>>>> Tim, can you tell me how to set things the way you describe here? I think 
>>>> that might help me navigate some websites.
>>>> thanks.
>>>> Lorie
>>>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 1:02 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I tend to havel cursors synchronized, and also have the mouse follow VO 
>>>>> focus.  I've also set VO to read what's under the mouse after a 0 second 
>>>>> delay.  It works well for me except in some web situations whereby if the 
>>>>> mouse is on certain locations, VO has focus difficulties.  Very rare 
>>>>> though.  So, overall, it's kind of a personal preference.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Later...
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>> Apple Teacher
>>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>>>> Jamf Certified Associate
>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 11:56, Barry Hadder >>>> <mailto:bhad...@gmail.com> <mailto:bhad...@gmail.com 
>>>>> <mailto:bhad...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> control-option-arrows moves the vo cursor.  It can go where keyboard 
>>>>> focus might not can.  Arrows or tab moves the system keyboard focus.
>>>>> It is usually not advisable to have the mouse follow vo, but if you lock 
>>>>> the mouse it will follow vo automatically.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 12:27, hemachandran karah >>>>> <mailto:hemaka...@gmail.com> <mailto:hemaka...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:hemaka...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As a beginner, I can’t yet understand differences in cursor positions. 
>>>>>> For example, should mouse cursor follow vo cursor? How do I simulate 
>>>>>> various cursors? For what purposes?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I will be grateful for an answer.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Take care,
>>>>>> Hem.
>>>>>> Hemachandran Karah
>>>>>> HSS Faculty, IIT Madras.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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Re: cursors

2019-09-17 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries

Hi,

As ET mentioned, the cursor tracking items are in the VO Utility under the 
Navigation category.  The items which has VO announce what's under the mouse, 
is in the Verbosity category, in the Announcements tab.  You can toggle this 
on/off and set the delay before announcing.  I have it on, and no delay at all.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 17, 2019, at 15:30, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

  VO-f8, or look in the Utilities folder.

>From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 9/17/2019 2:23 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
> I guess I need a memory refresh. I'm having trouble opening the vo utility.
>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 4:12 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>   VO Utility, Navigation.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> 
>> On 9/17/2019 1:54 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>>> Tim, can you tell me how to set things the way you describe here? I think 
>>> that might help me navigate some websites.
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
>>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 1:02 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> I tend to havel cursors synchronized, and also have the mouse follow VO 
>>>> focus.  I've also set VO to read what's under the mouse after a 0 second 
>>>> delay.  It works well for me except in some web situations whereby if the 
>>>> mouse is on certain locations, VO has focus difficulties.  Very rare 
>>>> though.  So, overall, it's kind of a personal preference.
>>>> 
>>>> Later...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>> Apple Teacher
>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>>> Jamf Certified Associate
>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 11:56, Barry Hadder >>> <mailto:bhad...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> control-option-arrows moves the vo cursor.  It can go where keyboard focus 
>>>> might not can.  Arrows or tab moves the system keyboard focus.
>>>> It is usually not advisable to have the mouse follow vo, but if you lock 
>>>> the mouse it will follow vo automatically.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 12:27, hemachandran karah >>>> <mailto:hemaka...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> As a beginner, I can’t yet understand differences in cursor positions. 
>>>>> For example, should mouse cursor follow vo cursor? How do I simulate 
>>>>> various cursors? For what purposes?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I will be grateful for an answer.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Take care,
>>>>> Hem.
>>>>> Hemachandran Karah
>>>>> HSS Faculty, IIT Madras.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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Re: cursors

2019-09-17 Thread Lorie McCloud

thanks. I hardly ever use siri on my Mac. maybe I should find out how to 
activate it. I have a touch pad but I mostly use the keyboard. I have a Mac 
Mini with a standard Apple keyboard. I have to use fn with vo and F8 in order 
to get the utility open.

Lorie

> On Sep 17, 2019, at 5:15 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:
> 
> I know Lorie has already opened Voice Over utility, but there is a few ways 
> of doing it. I try and do things manually  as  well but last week I had the 
> same brain block so I just asked Siri to open Voice over Utilities.  I’m not 
> sure if this one works on Macs without the Touch Bar but I can also press the 
> FN control option and the number 8 key on the number row. 
> 
>> On 18/09/2019, at 9:30 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>   VO-f8, or look in the Utilities folder.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> 
>> On 9/17/2019 2:23 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>>> I guess I need a memory refresh. I'm having trouble opening the vo utility.
>>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 4:12 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>   VO Utility, Navigation.
>>>> 
>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>>> 
>>>> On 9/17/2019 1:54 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>>>>> Tim, can you tell me how to set things the way you describe here? I think 
>>>>> that might help me navigate some websites.
>>>>> thanks.
>>>>> Lorie
>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 1:02 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>> >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I tend to havel cursors synchronized, and also have the mouse follow VO 
>>>>>> focus.  I've also set VO to read what's under the mouse after a 0 second 
>>>>>> delay.  It works well for me except in some web situations whereby if 
>>>>>> the mouse is on certain locations, VO has focus difficulties.  Very rare 
>>>>>> though.  So, overall, it's kind of a personal preference.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Later...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>>> Apple Teacher
>>>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>>>>> Jamf Certified Associate
>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 11:56, Barry Hadder >>>>> <mailto:bhad...@gmail.com> <mailto:bhad...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:bhad...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> control-option-arrows moves the vo cursor.  It can go where keyboard 
>>>>>> focus might not can.  Arrows or tab moves the system keyboard focus.
>>>>>> It is usually not advisable to have the mouse follow vo, but if you lock 
>>>>>> the mouse it will follow vo automatically.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 12:27, hemachandran karah >>>>>> <mailto:hemaka...@gmail.com> <mailto:hemaka...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:hemaka...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As a beginner, I can’t yet understand differences in cursor positions. 
>>>>>>> For example, should mouse cursor follow vo cursor? How do I simulate 
>>>>>>> various cursors? For what purposes?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I will be grateful for an answer.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Take care,
>>>>>>> Hem.
>>>>>>> Hemachandran Karah
>>>>>>> HSS Faculty, IIT Madras.
>>&g

Re: cursors

2019-09-17 Thread Petrus Tuerlings

I know Lorie has already opened Voice Over utility, but there is a few ways of 
doing it. I try and do things manually  as  well but last week I had the same 
brain block so I just asked Siri to open Voice over Utilities.  I’m not sure if 
this one works on Macs without the Touch Bar but I can also press the FN 
control option and the number 8 key on the number row. 

> On 18/09/2019, at 9:30 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   VO-f8, or look in the Utilities folder.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 9/17/2019 2:23 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>> I guess I need a memory refresh. I'm having trouble opening the vo utility.
>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 4:12 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   VO Utility, Navigation.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>> On 9/17/2019 1:54 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>>>> Tim, can you tell me how to set things the way you describe here? I think 
>>>> that might help me navigate some websites.
>>>> thanks.
>>>> Lorie
>>>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 1:02 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>> >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I tend to havel cursors synchronized, and also have the mouse follow VO 
>>>>> focus.  I've also set VO to read what's under the mouse after a 0 second 
>>>>> delay.  It works well for me except in some web situations whereby if the 
>>>>> mouse is on certain locations, VO has focus difficulties.  Very rare 
>>>>> though.  So, overall, it's kind of a personal preference.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Later...
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>> Apple Teacher
>>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>>>> Jamf Certified Associate
>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 11:56, Barry Hadder >>>> <mailto:bhad...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> control-option-arrows moves the vo cursor.  It can go where keyboard 
>>>>> focus might not can.  Arrows or tab moves the system keyboard focus.
>>>>> It is usually not advisable to have the mouse follow vo, but if you lock 
>>>>> the mouse it will follow vo automatically.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 12:27, hemachandran karah >>>>> <mailto:hemaka...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As a beginner, I can’t yet understand differences in cursor positions. 
>>>>>> For example, should mouse cursor follow vo cursor? How do I simulate 
>>>>>> various cursors? For what purposes?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I will be grateful for an answer.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Take care,
>>>>>> Hem.
>>>>>> Hemachandran Karah
>>>>>> HSS Faculty, IIT Madras.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>>>>> Visionaries list.
>>>>>> 
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Re: cursors

2019-09-17 Thread Lorie McCloud

I found how to synchronize the 2 cursors. where do I set vo to read what's 
under the mouse pointer? seems like mouse pointer should be in there somewhere.

also, should I have cursor wrapping enabled?

thanks.

> On Sep 17, 2019, at 4:30 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   VO-f8, or look in the Utilities folder.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 9/17/2019 2:23 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>> I guess I need a memory refresh. I'm having trouble opening the vo utility.
>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 4:12 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   VO Utility, Navigation.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>> On 9/17/2019 1:54 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>>>> Tim, can you tell me how to set things the way you describe here? I think 
>>>> that might help me navigate some websites.
>>>> thanks.
>>>> Lorie
>>>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 1:02 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>> >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I tend to havel cursors synchronized, and also have the mouse follow VO 
>>>>> focus.  I've also set VO to read what's under the mouse after a 0 second 
>>>>> delay.  It works well for me except in some web situations whereby if the 
>>>>> mouse is on certain locations, VO has focus difficulties.  Very rare 
>>>>> though.  So, overall, it's kind of a personal preference.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Later...
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>> Apple Teacher
>>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>>>> Jamf Certified Associate
>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 11:56, Barry Hadder >>>> <mailto:bhad...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> control-option-arrows moves the vo cursor.  It can go where keyboard 
>>>>> focus might not can.  Arrows or tab moves the system keyboard focus.
>>>>> It is usually not advisable to have the mouse follow vo, but if you lock 
>>>>> the mouse it will follow vo automatically.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 12:27, hemachandran karah >>>>> <mailto:hemaka...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As a beginner, I can’t yet understand differences in cursor positions. 
>>>>>> For example, should mouse cursor follow vo cursor? How do I simulate 
>>>>>> various cursors? For what purposes?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I will be grateful for an answer.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Take care,
>>>>>> Hem.
>>>>>> Hemachandran Karah
>>>>>> HSS Faculty, IIT Madras.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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Re: cursors

2019-09-17 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries

VO-f8, or look in the Utilities folder.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 9/17/2019 2:23 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:

I guess I need a memory refresh. I'm having trouble opening the vo utility.

On Sep 17, 2019, at 4:12 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
wrote:

VO Utility, Navigation.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 9/17/2019 1:54 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:

Tim, can you tell me how to set things the way you describe here? I think that
might help me navigate some websites.
thanks.
Lorie

On Sep 17, 2019, at 1:02 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
wrote:

Hi,

I tend to havel cursors synchronized, and also have the mouse follow VO focus.
I've also set VO to read what's under the mouse after a 0 second delay. It
works well for me except in some web situations whereby if the mouse is on
certain locations, VO has focus difficulties. Very rare though. So, overall,
it's kind of a personal preference.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 17, 2019, at 11:56, Barry Hadder mailto:bhad...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi,

control-option-arrows moves the vo cursor. It can go where keyboard focus
might not can. Arrows or tab moves the system keyboard focus.
It is usually not advisable to have the mouse follow vo, but if you lock the
mouse it will follow vo automatically.

On Sep 17, 2019, at 12:27, hemachandran karah mailto:hemaka...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Dear all,

As a beginner, I can’t yet understand differences in cursor positions. For
example, should mouse cursor follow vo cursor? How do I simulate various
cursors? For what purposes?

I will be grateful for an answer.

Take care,
Hem.
Hemachandran Karah
HSS Faculty, IIT Madras.

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Re: cursors

2019-09-17 Thread Lorie McCloud

I guess I need a memory refresh. I'm having trouble opening the vo utility.

> On Sep 17, 2019, at 4:12 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   VO Utility, Navigation.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 9/17/2019 1:54 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>> Tim, can you tell me how to set things the way you describe here? I think 
>> that might help me navigate some websites.
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 1:02 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I tend to havel cursors synchronized, and also have the mouse follow VO 
>>> focus.  I've also set VO to read what's under the mouse after a 0 second 
>>> delay.  It works well for me except in some web situations whereby if the 
>>> mouse is on certain locations, VO has focus difficulties.  Very rare 
>>> though.  So, overall, it's kind of a personal preference.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Jamf Certified Associate
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 11:56, Barry Hadder >> <mailto:bhad...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> control-option-arrows moves the vo cursor.  It can go where keyboard focus 
>>> might not can.  Arrows or tab moves the system keyboard focus.
>>> It is usually not advisable to have the mouse follow vo, but if you lock 
>>> the mouse it will follow vo automatically.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 12:27, hemachandran karah >>> <mailto:hemaka...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Dear all,
>>>> 
>>>> As a beginner, I can’t yet understand differences in cursor positions. For 
>>>> example, should mouse cursor follow vo cursor? How do I simulate various 
>>>> cursors? For what purposes?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I will be grateful for an answer.
>>>> 
>>>> Take care,
>>>> Hem.
>>>> Hemachandran Karah
>>>> HSS Faculty, IIT Madras.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: cursors

2019-09-17 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries

VO Utility, Navigation.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 9/17/2019 1:54 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
Tim, can you tell me how to set things the way you describe here? I
think that might help me navigate some websites.

thanks.
Lorie

On Sep 17, 2019, at 1:02 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi,

I tend to havel cursors synchronized, and also have the mouse follow
VO focus. I've also set VO to read what's under the mouse after a 0
second delay. It works well for me except in some web situations
whereby if the mouse is on certain locations, VO has focus
difficulties. Very rare though. So, overall, it's kind of a personal
preference.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 17, 2019, at 11:56, Barry Hadder <mailto:bhad...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi,

control-option-arrows moves the vo cursor. It can go where keyboard
focus might not can. Arrows or tab moves the system keyboard focus.
It is usually not advisable to have the mouse follow vo, but if you
lock the mouse it will follow vo automatically.

On Sep 17, 2019, at 12:27, hemachandran karah <mailto:hemaka...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Dear all,

As a beginner, I can’t yet understand differences in cursor
positions. For example, should mouse cursor follow vo cursor? How do
I simulate various cursors? For what purposes?

I will be grateful for an answer.

Take care,
Hem.
Hemachandran Karah
HSS Faculty, IIT Madras.

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Re: cursors

2019-09-17 Thread Lorie McCloud

Tim, can you tell me how to set things the way you describe here? I think that 
might help me navigate some websites.

thanks.
Lorie

> On Sep 17, 2019, at 1:02 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I tend to havel cursors synchronized, and also have the mouse follow VO 
> focus.  I've also set VO to read what's under the mouse after a 0 second 
> delay.  It works well for me except in some web situations whereby if the 
> mouse is on certain locations, VO has focus difficulties.  Very rare though.  
> So, overall, it's kind of a personal preference.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Jamf Certified Associate
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Sep 17, 2019, at 11:56, Barry Hadder  <mailto:bhad...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> control-option-arrows moves the vo cursor.  It can go where keyboard focus 
> might not can.  Arrows or tab moves the system keyboard focus.
> It is usually not advisable to have the mouse follow vo, but if you lock the 
> mouse it will follow vo automatically.
> 
> 
>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 12:27, hemachandran karah > <mailto:hemaka...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> As a beginner, I can’t yet understand differences in cursor positions. For 
>> example, should mouse cursor follow vo cursor? How do I simulate various 
>> cursors? For what purposes?
>> 
>> 
>> I will be grateful for an answer.
>> 
>> Take care,
>> Hem.
>> Hemachandran Karah
>> HSS Faculty, IIT Madras.
>> 
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Re: cursors

2019-09-17 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries

Hi,

I tend to havel cursors synchronized, and also have the mouse follow VO focus.  
I've also set VO to read what's under the mouse after a 0 second delay.  It 
works well for me except in some web situations whereby if the mouse is on 
certain locations, VO has focus difficulties.  Very rare though.  So, overall, 
it's kind of a personal preference.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Sep 17, 2019, at 11:56, Barry Hadder  wrote:

Hi,

control-option-arrows moves the vo cursor.  It can go where keyboard focus 
might not can.  Arrows or tab moves the system keyboard focus.
It is usually not advisable to have the mouse follow vo, but if you lock the 
mouse it will follow vo automatically.

> On Sep 17, 2019, at 12:27, hemachandran karah  <mailto:hemaka...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> As a beginner, I can’t yet understand differences in cursor positions. For 
> example, should mouse cursor follow vo cursor? How do I simulate various 
> cursors? For what purposes?
> 
> 
> I will be grateful for an answer.
> 
> Take care,
> Hem.
> Hemachandran Karah
> HSS Faculty, IIT Madras.
> 
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Re: cursors

2019-09-17 Thread Barry Hadder

Hi,

control-option-arrows moves the vo cursor.  It can go where keyboard focus 
might not can.  Arrows or tab moves the system keyboard focus.
It is usually not advisable to have the mouse follow vo, but if you lock the 
mouse it will follow vo automatically.


> On Sep 17, 2019, at 12:27, hemachandran karah  wrote:
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> Dear all,
> 
> As a beginner, I can’t yet understand differences in cursor positions. For 
> example, should mouse cursor follow vo cursor? How do I simulate various 
> cursors? For what purposes?
> 
> 
> I will be grateful for an answer.
> 
> Take care,
> Hem.
> Hemachandran Karah
> HSS Faculty, IIT Madras.
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cursors

2019-09-17 Thread hemachandran karah

Dear all,

As a beginner, I can’t yet understand differences in cursor positions. For 
example, should mouse cursor follow vo cursor? How do I simulate various 
cursors? For what purposes?


I will be grateful for an answer.

Take care,
Hem.
Hemachandran Karah
HSS Faculty, IIT Madras.



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Brailliant 32 b Display, Rauter cursors not rowking

2013-11-11 Thread Daniela Rubio

Hello!
I am using a Brailliant 32, and I find it very nice. The thing is that I can’t 
bring my cursor where I want using the ruter keys at the top of the letters, 
doe’s anybody can give me an idea on how to make this work? Thanks!
Best

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Re: Brailliant 32 b Display, Rauter cursors not rowking

2013-11-11 Thread Eugenia Firth

Hi there. 
My Braille Edge 40 is not routing all that great either, but it is routing over 
short distances. I still have an open case on mine. Maybe if we're lucky, that 
will help with others, even though it's a different braille display. 

Regards, 
Gigi 

On Nov 11, 2013, at 2:51 PM, Daniela Rubio mabuha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello!
 I am using a Brailliant 32, and I find it very nice. The thing is that I 
 can’t bring my cursor where I want using the ruter keys at the top of the 
 letters, doe’s anybody can give me an idea on how to make this work? Thanks!
 Best
 
 Daniela Rubio T
 iphone: +34662328507
 
 
 
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Re: Brailliant 32 b Display, Rauter cursors not rowking

2013-11-11 Thread Daniela Rubio

Hello!
Thank you very much for this feedback. My Display is brand new, so I did not 
know if I was doing something wrong. I will also place a mail to Apple 
Accessibility, may be they will address this.
Best

Daniela Rubio T
iPhone: +34662328507



El 11/11/2013, a las 22:15, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com escribió:

 Hi there. 
 My Braille Edge 40 is not routing all that great either, but it is routing 
 over short distances. I still have an open case on mine. Maybe if we're 
 lucky, that will help with others, even though it's a different braille 
 display. 
 
 Regards, 
 Gigi 
 
 On Nov 11, 2013, at 2:51 PM, Daniela Rubio mabuha...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello!
 I am using a Brailliant 32, and I find it very nice. The thing is that I 
 can’t bring my cursor where I want using the ruter keys at the top of the 
 letters, doe’s anybody can give me an idea on how to make this work? Thanks!
 Best
 
 Daniela Rubio T
 iphone: +34662328507
 
 
 
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Re: whats the advantage of two cursors in amadeus Pro?

2012-02-24 Thread Egbert

Hi Jurgen,
thix for the address.
I won't bother him with smaltalk smile. But thax for the warning smile.
Have a nice day and thx for the help.
its very possible i write again, greets, the absolute beginner smile

Op 24 feb. 2012, om 07:25 heeft Jürgen Fleger het volgende geschreven:

 Hello Egbert,
 
 here's the address of Martin Hairer. But please be very sure about what you 
 write. We shouldn't scare him away because of wrong issue reports.
 
 When you are a newbe to Amadeus please wait a little bit and explore the 
 software first. My experience is that a lot of people don't know how to use 
 Amadeus Pro correctly and then they think the software isn't able to fulfill 
 their needs. But actually it's a good peece of software.
 
 Here the address:
 mar...@hairersoft.com
 
 All the best
 Jürgen
 
 Am 23.02.2012 um 21:43 schrieb Egbert:
 
 Hi jurgen,
 
 could you provide the ailadres of martin to me?
 I have tried to read the manual, bt was not very successful uptill now.
 i d like to write him a few things smile.
 Thx,
 Egbert 
 Op 23 feb. 2012, om 19:39 heeft Jürgen Fleger het volgende geschreven:
 
 Hi Egbert,
 
 actually I can't explain why Martin Hairer decided to do it this way. But I 
 saw it in several other sound editors as well. I'm going to suggest to 
 Martin to make it optional to combine these two cursors in the settings. 
 You could also write to him and make this suggestion. So he might see the 
 need for this.
 
 All the best
 Jürgen
 
 Am 23.02.2012 um 13:34 schrieb Egbert:
 
 Hi Folks,
 i managed to cut some audio, get me markers right and be happy.
 but one question still remains.
 Why does amadeus use two cursors?
 there is the playhead and the insertion point?
 In the old days, when i used tapedecs, i could understand the idea.
 ut here?
 Can someone explain the meaning to me?
 greatfull, Egbert 
 
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Re: whats the advantage of two cursors in amadeus Pro?

2012-02-24 Thread Ray Foret Jr

I agree.  You could, of course, Join the Amadeus Pro mailing list also.  You 
sign up for this like a forum, but, you can use it via regular e-mail.  It 
doesn't get all that much traffic but it's useful.  As for the app itself, at 
first, because I was unfamiliar with Amadeus Pro, I too questioned whether it 
could or would meet my needs.  Most of them it meets very nicely indeed.  I do 
the recording in Amadeus Pro, then, using RX plugins, I remove the clicks and 
pops from vinyl records and do  denoising also.  IN short, if I'm going to do a 
vinyl record album, I can do everything I need to do from inside Amadeus Pro 
from the recording, to the click and pop suppression, to the denoising, the 
editing out of side changes and then splitting up the file in to individual 
tracks and burning the lot directly to a CD; and, mind you, all of it from 
directly inside amadeus Pro.  


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On Feb 24, 2012, at 12:25 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote:

 Hello Egbert,
 
 here's the address of Martin Hairer. But please be very sure about what you 
 write. We shouldn't scare him away because of wrong issue reports.
 
 When you are a newbe to Amadeus please wait a little bit and explore the 
 software first. My experience is that a lot of people don't know how to use 
 Amadeus Pro correctly and then they think the software isn't able to fulfill 
 their needs. But actually it's a good peece of software.
 
 Here the address:
 mar...@hairersoft.com
 
 All the best
 Jürgen
 
 Am 23.02.2012 um 21:43 schrieb Egbert:
 
 Hi jurgen,
 
 could you provide the ailadres of martin to me?
 I have tried to read the manual, bt was not very successful uptill now.
 i d like to write him a few things smile.
 Thx,
 Egbert 
 Op 23 feb. 2012, om 19:39 heeft Jürgen Fleger het volgende geschreven:
 
 Hi Egbert,
 
 actually I can't explain why Martin Hairer decided to do it this way. But I 
 saw it in several other sound editors as well. I'm going to suggest to 
 Martin to make it optional to combine these two cursors in the settings. 
 You could also write to him and make this suggestion. So he might see the 
 need for this.
 
 All the best
 Jürgen
 
 Am 23.02.2012 um 13:34 schrieb Egbert:
 
 Hi Folks,
 i managed to cut some audio, get me markers right and be happy.
 but one question still remains.
 Why does amadeus use two cursors?
 there is the playhead and the insertion point?
 In the old days, when i used tapedecs, i could understand the idea.
 ut here?
 Can someone explain the meaning to me?
 greatfull, Egbert 
 
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Re: whats the advantage of two cursors in amadeus Pro?

2012-02-24 Thread Egbert

Hi,
sory for bothering, but is there a link to the amadeus forum or mailing list?
I would gladly subscribe myself there.
Egbert 
Op 24 feb. 2012, om 13:22 heeft Ray Foret Jr het volgende geschreven:

 I agree.  You could, of course, Join the Amadeus Pro mailing list also.  You 
 sign up for this like a forum, but, you can use it via regular e-mail.  It 
 doesn't get all that much traffic but it's useful.  As for the app itself, at 
 first, because I was unfamiliar with Amadeus Pro, I too questioned whether it 
 could or would meet my needs.  Most of them it meets very nicely indeed.  I 
 do the recording in Amadeus Pro, then, using RX plugins, I remove the clicks 
 and pops from vinyl records and do  denoising also.  IN short, if I'm going 
 to do a vinyl record album, I can do everything I need to do from inside 
 Amadeus Pro from the recording, to the click and pop suppression, to the 
 denoising, the editing out of side changes and then splitting up the file in 
 to individual tracks and burning the lot directly to a CD; and, mind you, all 
 of it from directly inside amadeus Pro.  
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
 
 Facebook:
 facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
 
 
 
 On Feb 24, 2012, at 12:25 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote:
 
 Hello Egbert,
 
 here's the address of Martin Hairer. But please be very sure about what you 
 write. We shouldn't scare him away because of wrong issue reports.
 
 When you are a newbe to Amadeus please wait a little bit and explore the 
 software first. My experience is that a lot of people don't know how to use 
 Amadeus Pro correctly and then they think the software isn't able to fulfill 
 their needs. But actually it's a good peece of software.
 
 Here the address:
 mar...@hairersoft.com
 
 All the best
 Jürgen
 
 Am 23.02.2012 um 21:43 schrieb Egbert:
 
 Hi jurgen,
 
 could you provide the ailadres of martin to me?
 I have tried to read the manual, bt was not very successful uptill now.
 i d like to write him a few things smile.
 Thx,
 Egbert 
 Op 23 feb. 2012, om 19:39 heeft Jürgen Fleger het volgende geschreven:
 
 Hi Egbert,
 
 actually I can't explain why Martin Hairer decided to do it this way. But 
 I saw it in several other sound editors as well. I'm going to suggest to 
 Martin to make it optional to combine these two cursors in the settings. 
 You could also write to him and make this suggestion. So he might see the 
 need for this.
 
 All the best
 Jürgen
 
 Am 23.02.2012 um 13:34 schrieb Egbert:
 
 Hi Folks,
 i managed to cut some audio, get me markers right and be happy.
 but one question still remains.
 Why does amadeus use two cursors?
 there is the playhead and the insertion point?
 In the old days, when i used tapedecs, i could understand the idea.
 ut here?
 Can someone explain the meaning to me?
 greatfull, Egbert 
 
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Re: whats the advantage of two cursors in amadeus Pro?

2012-02-24 Thread Ray Foret Jr

Here's the link to witch you can most easily subscribe to the mailing list.

http://two.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/forum_list


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On Feb 24, 2012, at 2:41 PM, Egbert wrote:

 Hi,
 sory for bothering, but is there a link to the amadeus forum or mailing list?
 I would gladly subscribe myself there.
 Egbert 
 Op 24 feb. 2012, om 13:22 heeft Ray Foret Jr het volgende geschreven:
 
 I agree.  You could, of course, Join the Amadeus Pro mailing list also.  You 
 sign up for this like a forum, but, you can use it via regular e-mail.  It 
 doesn't get all that much traffic but it's useful.  As for the app itself, 
 at first, because I was unfamiliar with Amadeus Pro, I too questioned 
 whether it could or would meet my needs.  Most of them it meets very nicely 
 indeed.  I do the recording in Amadeus Pro, then, using RX plugins, I remove 
 the clicks and pops from vinyl records and do  denoising also.  IN short, if 
 I'm going to do a vinyl record album, I can do everything I need to do from 
 inside Amadeus Pro from the recording, to the click and pop suppression, to 
 the denoising, the editing out of side changes and then splitting up the 
 file in to individual tracks and burning the lot directly to a CD; and, mind 
 you, all of it from directly inside amadeus Pro.  
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
 
 Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
 
 Skype name:
 barefootedray
 
 Facebook:
 facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
 
 
 
 On Feb 24, 2012, at 12:25 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote:
 
 Hello Egbert,
 
 here's the address of Martin Hairer. But please be very sure about what you 
 write. We shouldn't scare him away because of wrong issue reports.
 
 When you are a newbe to Amadeus please wait a little bit and explore the 
 software first. My experience is that a lot of people don't know how to use 
 Amadeus Pro correctly and then they think the software isn't able to 
 fulfill their needs. But actually it's a good peece of software.
 
 Here the address:
 mar...@hairersoft.com
 
 All the best
 Jürgen
 
 Am 23.02.2012 um 21:43 schrieb Egbert:
 
 Hi jurgen,
 
 could you provide the ailadres of martin to me?
 I have tried to read the manual, bt was not very successful uptill now.
 i d like to write him a few things smile.
 Thx,
 Egbert 
 Op 23 feb. 2012, om 19:39 heeft Jürgen Fleger het volgende geschreven:
 
 Hi Egbert,
 
 actually I can't explain why Martin Hairer decided to do it this way. But 
 I saw it in several other sound editors as well. I'm going to suggest to 
 Martin to make it optional to combine these two cursors in the settings. 
 You could also write to him and make this suggestion. So he might see the 
 need for this.
 
 All the best
 Jürgen
 
 Am 23.02.2012 um 13:34 schrieb Egbert:
 
 Hi Folks,
 i managed to cut some audio, get me markers right and be happy.
 but one question still remains.
 Why does amadeus use two cursors?
 there is the playhead and the insertion point?
 In the old days, when i used tapedecs, i could understand the idea.
 ut here?
 Can someone explain the meaning to me?
 greatfull, Egbert 
 
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whats the advantage of two cursors in amadeus Pro?

2012-02-23 Thread Egbert

Hi Folks,
i managed to cut some audio, get me markers right and be happy.
but one question still remains.
Why does amadeus use two cursors?
there is the playhead and the insertion point?
In the old days, when i used tapedecs, i could understand the idea.
ut here?
Can someone explain the meaning to me?
greatfull, Egbert 

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Re: whats the advantage of two cursors in amadeus Pro?

2012-02-23 Thread Jürgen Fleger

Hi Egbert,

actually I can't explain why Martin Hairer decided to do it this way. But I saw 
it in several other sound editors as well. I'm going to suggest to Martin to 
make it optional to combine these two cursors in the settings. You could also 
write to him and make this suggestion. So he might see the need for this.

All the best
Jürgen

Am 23.02.2012 um 13:34 schrieb Egbert:

 Hi Folks,
 i managed to cut some audio, get me markers right and be happy.
 but one question still remains.
 Why does amadeus use two cursors?
 there is the playhead and the insertion point?
 In the old days, when i used tapedecs, i could understand the idea.
 ut here?
 Can someone explain the meaning to me?
 greatfull, Egbert 
 
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Re: whats the advantage of two cursors in amadeus Pro?

2012-02-23 Thread Egbert

Hi jurgen,

could you provide the ailadres of martin to me?
I have tried to read the manual, bt was not very successful uptill now.
i d like to write him a few things smile.
Thx,
Egbert 
Op 23 feb. 2012, om 19:39 heeft Jürgen Fleger het volgende geschreven:

 Hi Egbert,
 
 actually I can't explain why Martin Hairer decided to do it this way. But I 
 saw it in several other sound editors as well. I'm going to suggest to Martin 
 to make it optional to combine these two cursors in the settings. You could 
 also write to him and make this suggestion. So he might see the need for this.
 
 All the best
 Jürgen
 
 Am 23.02.2012 um 13:34 schrieb Egbert:
 
 Hi Folks,
 i managed to cut some audio, get me markers right and be happy.
 but one question still remains.
 Why does amadeus use two cursors?
 there is the playhead and the insertion point?
 In the old days, when i used tapedecs, i could understand the idea.
 ut here?
 Can someone explain the meaning to me?
 greatfull, Egbert 
 
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Re: whats the advantage of two cursors in amadeus Pro?

2012-02-23 Thread Jürgen Fleger

Hello Egbert,

here's the address of Martin Hairer. But please be very sure about what you 
write. We shouldn't scare him away because of wrong issue reports.

When you are a newbe to Amadeus please wait a little bit and explore the 
software first. My experience is that a lot of people don't know how to use 
Amadeus Pro correctly and then they think the software isn't able to fulfill 
their needs. But actually it's a good peece of software.

Here the address:
 mar...@hairersoft.com

All the best
Jürgen

Am 23.02.2012 um 21:43 schrieb Egbert:

 Hi jurgen,
 
 could you provide the ailadres of martin to me?
 I have tried to read the manual, bt was not very successful uptill now.
 i d like to write him a few things smile.
 Thx,
 Egbert 
 Op 23 feb. 2012, om 19:39 heeft Jürgen Fleger het volgende geschreven:
 
 Hi Egbert,
 
 actually I can't explain why Martin Hairer decided to do it this way. But I 
 saw it in several other sound editors as well. I'm going to suggest to 
 Martin to make it optional to combine these two cursors in the settings. You 
 could also write to him and make this suggestion. So he might see the need 
 for this.
 
 All the best
 Jürgen
 
 Am 23.02.2012 um 13:34 schrieb Egbert:
 
 Hi Folks,
 i managed to cut some audio, get me markers right and be happy.
 but one question still remains.
 Why does amadeus use two cursors?
 there is the playhead and the insertion point?
 In the old days, when i used tapedecs, i could understand the idea.
 ut here?
 Can someone explain the meaning to me?
 greatfull, Egbert 
 
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Re: cursors

2009-09-08 Thread Keith Brown


thanks Mike, mine are set as yours are.
cheers

Keith
On 7 Sep 2009, at 14:48, Mike Arrigo wrote:


 Hi, sure thing. Really there is no requirement here, but I will tell
 you how mine is set. I have all 4 check boxes checked for the system
 focus, voice over cursor and insertion point to follow each other.
 This way, when you move the voice over cursor to an item such as an
 edit box, your in the box, ready to type. I love that feature, it not
 only works on the web, but in pretty much any window. It's great
 because you can use the voice over cursor to read text in a dialog box
 and when you get to a control you want to work with, your system focus
 is already there waiting for you. When I have to use windows at work,
 I really miss this feature. I don't have the mouse pointer set to
 follow the voice over cursor, though you can press v o command f5 to
 move the mouse to your voice over cursor. Some times you will need to
 do this if you need to click on something that doesn't respond to the
 voice over's perform action command.
 On Sep 7, 2009, at 5:07 AM, Keith Brown wrote:

 could someone give me a quick rundown as to how cursors should be
 set. thanks

 Keith


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could someone give me a quick rundown as to how cursors should be set. thanks 

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Re: cursors

2009-09-07 Thread Mike Arrigo


Hi, sure thing. Really there is no requirement here, but I will tell  
you how mine is set. I have all 4 check boxes checked for the system  
focus, voice over cursor and insertion point to follow each other.  
This way, when you move the voice over cursor to an item such as an  
edit box, your in the box, ready to type. I love that feature, it not  
only works on the web, but in pretty much any window. It's great  
because you can use the voice over cursor to read text in a dialog box  
and when you get to a control you want to work with, your system focus  
is already there waiting for you. When I have to use windows at work,  
I really miss this feature. I don't have the mouse pointer set to  
follow the voice over cursor, though you can press v o command f5 to  
move the mouse to your voice over cursor. Some times you will need to  
do this if you need to click on something that doesn't respond to the  
voice over's perform action command.
On Sep 7, 2009, at 5:07 AM, Keith Brown wrote:

 could someone give me a quick rundown as to how cursors should be  
 set. thanks

 Keith


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