RE: ok got an external now what?

2015-11-20 Thread Zoe Fiogkos 
Hi there, I connected the drive to the mac and I clicked the mac instal dmg 
file and it asked me if I want this drive for the mac and the pc and of course 
I said yes.  Anyhow long story short I restarted the computer and according to 
the mac the install was successful.
How do I view the files on this drive? And how do I start the back up? Anyone 
have ideas?

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Subject: Re: ok got an external now what?

Zoey,

I could be wrong but you use TimeMachine to back up your system. Think
of it as a Windows Backup.
I hope someone can give further clarification.
Vaughn

On 11/20/15, Zoe Fiogkos <fiog...@rogers.com> wrote:
> Ok never mind the hard drive is 2 tb and I have a lot of space on it.
> So what do I do now?  How to I back up my system before attempting the
> upgrade to el capitan?  When I go into the external there is something
> called mac installer.dmg
> So do I conect the hard drive and then click that?
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RE: ok got an external now what?

2015-11-20 Thread george b 
Do the following
Voice over and m m

This is control option m m and you are in the extra menu across the top of the 
screen
Now voice over and right arrow to you hear time capseul then voice over and 
down arrow in the menu to what you want
The first is backup and if you do a voice over and spacebar it will start the 
first backup and it will take a while for the first one just let it go.

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On Behalf Of Zoe Fiogkos
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 10:30
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ok got an external now what?

Hi there, I connected the drive to the mac and I clicked the mac instal dmg 
file and it asked me if I want this drive for the mac and the pc and of course 
I said yes.  Anyhow long story short I restarted the computer and according to 
the mac the install was successful.
How do I view the files on this drive? And how do I start the back up? Anyone 
have ideas?

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On Behalf Of Vaughn Brown
Sent: November-20-15 1:08 PM
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Subject: Re: ok got an external now what?

Zoey,

I could be wrong but you use TimeMachine to back up your system. Think of it as 
a Windows Backup.
I hope someone can give further clarification.
Vaughn

On 11/20/15, Zoe Fiogkos <fiog...@rogers.com> wrote:
> Ok never mind the hard drive is 2 tb and I have a lot of space on it.
> So what do I do now?  How to I back up my system before attempting the 
> upgrade to el capitan?  When I go into the external there is something 
> called mac installer.dmg So do I conect the hard drive and then click 
> that?
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ok got an external now what?

2015-11-20 Thread Zoe Fiogkos 
Ok never mind the hard drive is 2 tb and I have a lot of space on it.  
So what do I do now?  How to I back up my system before attempting the
upgrade to el capitan?  When I go into the external there is something
called mac installer.dmg 
So do I conect the hard drive and then click that?

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Re: ok got an external now what?

2015-11-20 Thread Vaughn Brown 
Zoey,

I could be wrong but you use TimeMachine to back up your system. Think
of it as a Windows Backup.
I hope someone can give further clarification.
Vaughn

On 11/20/15, Zoe Fiogkos  wrote:
> Ok never mind the hard drive is 2 tb and I have a lot of space on it.
> So what do I do now?  How to I back up my system before attempting the
> upgrade to el capitan?  When I go into the external there is something
> called mac installer.dmg
> So do I conect the hard drive and then click that?
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RE: ok got an external now what?

2015-11-20 Thread Zoe Fiogkos 
Oh George thanks so much.  Will this back up straight to the drive? Once this 
is done will voiceover inform me?  If it does can I then upgrade to el capitan?

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On Behalf Of george b
Sent: November-20-15 1:49 PM
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Subject: RE: ok got an external now what?

Do the following
Voice over and m m

This is control option m m and you are in the extra menu across the top of the 
screen
Now voice over and right arrow to you hear time capseul then voice over and 
down arrow in the menu to what you want
The first is backup and if you do a voice over and spacebar it will start the 
first backup and it will take a while for the first one just let it go.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Zoe Fiogkos
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 10:30
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ok got an external now what?

Hi there, I connected the drive to the mac and I clicked the mac instal dmg 
file and it asked me if I want this drive for the mac and the pc and of course 
I said yes.  Anyhow long story short I restarted the computer and according to 
the mac the install was successful.
How do I view the files on this drive? And how do I start the back up? Anyone 
have ideas?

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Vaughn Brown
Sent: November-20-15 1:08 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ok got an external now what?

Zoey,

I could be wrong but you use TimeMachine to back up your system. Think of it as 
a Windows Backup.
I hope someone can give further clarification.
Vaughn

On 11/20/15, Zoe Fiogkos <fiog...@rogers.com> wrote:
> Ok never mind the hard drive is 2 tb and I have a lot of space on it.
> So what do I do now?  How to I back up my system before attempting the 
> upgrade to el capitan?  When I go into the external there is something 
> called mac installer.dmg So do I conect the hard drive and then click 
> that?
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Re: ok got an external now what?

2015-11-20 Thread Chris Moore 
Hi,
We don’t know what the mac installer did to your drive.  To use time machine 
you need a mac partition.  One approach would be to use disk utility to create 
two partitions on the drive: one for TM backups (mac) and a second for your 
data files (ext fat).  
Let us know what disk utility tells you about the current partitions on the 
drive.

Chris

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RE: ok got an external now what?

2015-11-20 Thread Zoe Fiogkos 
Let's start from the beginning.  I have no personal files on the mac that I 
want saved.  I have been trying to learn the mac and in doing so I've run into 
so many problems that it looks like no one on the list can explain accept to 
say it might be mavricks and older versions of pages.  So I decided to upgrade 
to el capitan but to do so people on the list said I should back up at least my 
system.  So I have a u s b stick capacity 64 gb and time machine says I need 28 
gb of free space.  Someone on the list said not to use a stick for a back up 
because they are slow.  So I pulled out my external which at the store the guy 
told me I could use for a mac and windows.  I've been using this drive for the 
last few years to back up important documents, mail messages, pictures, videos 
and music all with windows.  I plugged the drive into windows and it said I 
have one and a half tb of free space.  It said something in the properties 
ntfs.  On the drive there is something called mac install dmg.  I think the 
rest you guys no.  now you guys are telling me something about disk utility.  
Please be patient with me, but what is that?  What exactly are you guys telling 
me to partition?  My external or my iMac drive?  

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Sent: November-20-15 8:04 PM
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Hi,
We don’t know what the mac installer did to your drive.  To use time machine 
you need a mac partition.  One approach would be to use disk utility to create 
two partitions on the drive: one for TM backups (mac) and a second for your 
data files (ext fat).  

Let us know what disk utility tells you about the current partitions on the 
drive.

Chris

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RE: ok got an external now what?

2015-11-20 Thread Zoe Fiogkos 
Where do I find disk utility?

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Subject: Re: ok got an external now what?

Hi,
We don’t know what the mac installer did to your drive.  To use time machine 
you need a mac partition.  One approach would be to use disk utility to create 
two partitions on the drive: one for TM backups (mac) and a second for your 
data files (ext fat).  

Let us know what disk utility tells you about the current partitions on the 
drive.

Chris

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Re: ok got an external now what?

2015-11-20 Thread Brian Moore 
Hi.  Okay, first question, do you have things on your external that you 
want to save?


if yes, we have a problem and you can't use that drive for a timemachine 
backup as this will erase the content on the drive.


if no, , then we can make this work but we will have to make changes to 
the drive to make it operate on mac. by default, mac can not write to a 
drive with the ntfs file system.  This is changable but not without a 
complicated install process that is really beyond the scope of this message.


Sorry have not been following this whole thread so people may have 
already given these instructions.


if you are okay with loosing the stuff on the drive, write me privately 
and I can give you instructions on how to make this drive work with mac 
in a whole bunch of detaill that should make it easy.


because I am in Toronto like you still might be, we could do some of 
this on the phone as well.


Brian.

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Re: ok got an external now what?

2015-11-20 Thread E.T. 

Zoe,
   I think you need to be the one to start from the beginning and 
really get to know OS X before you go any further. Your flood of 
messages this week bears this out.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 11/20/2015 5:48 PM, Zoe Fiogkos wrote:

Where do I find disk utility?

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Subject: Re: ok got an external now what?

Hi,
We don’t know what the mac installer did to your drive.  To use time machine 
you need a mac partition.  One approach would be to use disk utility to create 
two partitions on the drive: one for TM backups (mac) and a second for your 
data files (ext fat).

Let us know what disk utility tells you about the current partitions on the 
drive.

Chris



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RE: ok got an external now what?

2015-11-20 Thread Zoe Fiogkos 
Sorry didn't mean to drive you guys crazy.  I'll save the money and get some 
paid lessons instead.  Thanks to all.


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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: November-20-15 9:02 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ok got an external now what?

Zoe,
I think you need to be the one to start from the beginning and 
really get to know OS X before you go any further. Your flood of 
messages this week bears this out.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 11/20/2015 5:48 PM, Zoe Fiogkos wrote:
> Where do I find disk utility?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore
> Sent: November-20-15 8:04 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ok got an external now what?
>
> Hi,
> We don’t know what the mac installer did to your drive.  To use time machine 
> you need a mac partition.  One approach would be to use disk utility to 
> create two partitions on the drive: one for TM backups (mac) and a second for 
> your data files (ext fat).

>
> Let us know what disk utility tells you about the current partitions on the 
> drive.
>
> Chris
>

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