Re: Vm fusion question?

2020-09-01 Thread 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries
I often find that you can give Windows VMs focus if you just turn VO off 
temporarily and hit Tab enough times. Once your keyboard is grabbed, you can 
turn VO on again, if you like.

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Re: Vm fusion question?

2020-09-01 Thread Kliph Senior
Authorizations isn’t the issue.  This is a clean install of windows 10pro, and 
it won’t even let me type in the box to install jaws or even turn on narrator, 
let alone anything else.  Have tried multiple times, even with sited help.  
Guess I will wipe everything clean, and try again.


> On Aug 30, 2020, at 3:51 PM, maurice mines  wrote:
> 
> good morning, the best thing I can suggest is that you yes just like the last 
> poster said do some tabbing around depending on the age of your machine you 
> can also use the trackpad to try to maximize the window but maximizing 
> changes with whichever virtual application you are running if you're running 
> Windows it is probably best to use a single window or full-screen mode if you 
> have a window screen reader configured and ready to go.
> 
> 
> 
> Passions if you are running Windows, and you're using Jaws for Windows you 
> should be aware that authorizations can get a little funny in a VM my strong 
> and for the most emphatic suggestion here is what you get that program 
> running in your VM and authorized make sure you make a copy of the virtual 
> machine because you just used one of your license keys they get real snippy 
> if you use them too much and you cannot tell Vspara tech support that you're 
> running a virtual machine. They will not support it! And that they will hang 
> up on you almost immediately. Yes I been practically screamed out by their 
> staff with "we don't do Mac anything here take that stinky Mac and go call 
> Apple slam" that's pretty much the way Nicole goes that you mention the 
> virtual machine. So I'm just warning you on with everyone else is aware do 
> not mention the virtual machine to that company.
> 
> 
> 
> Now a word about Linux operating systems. The only operating system that I've 
> seen meaning that is a Linux distribution that seems to work well in terms of 
> making certain the window is maximized is now gnome which of course is 
> graphical the next. The version I am running happens to be Ubentu linux and 
> yes if you would stall orca into this distribution it sounds like a robot but 
> I guess what you get used to it you can actually use it. I have debated 
> whether Brltty can also run in a virtual machine. I'd be curious to know if 
> this is possible.
> 
> 
> 
> I hope some of the comments and suggestions might be of some help to someone.
> 
> 
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> On 8/30/2020 6:20 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
>> Hi!
>> Make sure you’re in the windows screen.
>> Otherwise i guess the mouse wont work.
>> Sometimes i have to do a lot of tabbing to get into the right position to 
>> get things going.
>> Not sure if i understand you right though.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 30 aug. 2020 kl. 14:45 skrev Kliph Senior  
>>> <mailto:kliph.sen...@gmail.com>:
>>> 
>>> Ok, since most work from home jobs these days want you to have a PC, I had 
>>> to bight the bullet and get windows 10 with vm fusion 11.  I got it 
>>> installed, but for some reason the mouse won’t click in the search box or 
>>> any app for that matter.  Trying to get Jaws, but since the mouse won’t 
>>> work, I can’t get it.  Any suggestions?  thanks.
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Re: Vm fusion question?

2020-08-30 Thread maurice mines
good morning, the best thing I can suggest is that you yes just like the 
last poster said do some tabbing around depending on the age of your 
machine you can also use the trackpad to try to maximize the window but 
maximizing changes with whichever virtual application you are running if 
you're running Windows it is probably best to use a single window or 
full-screen mode if you have a window screen reader configured and ready 
to go.



Passions if you are running Windows, and you're using Jaws for Windows 
you should be aware that authorizations can get a little funny in a VM 
my strong and for the most emphatic suggestion here is what you get that 
program running in your VM and authorized make sure you make a copy of 
the virtual machine because you just used one of your license keys they 
get real snippy if you use them too much and you cannot tell Vspara tech 
support that you're running a virtual machine. They will not support it! 
And that they will hang up on you almost immediately. Yes I been 
practically screamed out by their staff with "we don't do Mac anything 
here take that stinky Mac and go call Apple slam" that's pretty much the 
way Nicole goes that you mention the virtual machine. So I'm just 
warning you on with everyone else is aware do not mention the virtual 
machine to that company.



Now a word about Linux operating systems. The only operating system that 
I've seen meaning that is a Linux distribution that seems to work well 
in terms of making certain the window is maximized is now gnome which of 
course is graphical the next. The version I am running happens to be 
Ubentu linux and yes if you would stall orca into this distribution it 
sounds like a robot but I guess what you get used to it you can actually 
use it. I have debated whether Brltty can also run in a virtual machine. 
I'd be curious to know if this is possible.



I hope some of the comments and suggestions might be of some help to 
someone.



Please note the above text has been dictated to the computer by means of 
dictation software. There may be some text that you may not be able to 
understand if it is critical to your understanding of what I've written 
above please write me and asked me what my original intent was, I will 
do everything I can to clear up any potential misunderstandings based on 
what I've written above. Thank you very much for reading this



Sincerely Maurice Mines.

On 8/30/2020 6:20 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
Make sure you’re in the windows screen.
Otherwise i guess the mouse wont work.
Sometimes i have to do a lot of tabbing to get into the right position to get 
things going.
Not sure if i understand you right though.
/A


30 aug. 2020 kl. 14:45 skrev Kliph Senior :

Ok, since most work from home jobs these days want you to have a PC, I had to 
bight the bullet and get windows 10 with vm fusion 11.  I got it installed, but 
for some reason the mouse won’t click in the search box or any app for that 
matter.  Trying to get Jaws, but since the mouse won’t work, I can’t get it.  
Any suggestions?  thanks.

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Re: Vm fusion question?

2020-08-30 Thread Jonathan Cohn
That would be control-command F, but there is also a full screen mode item in 
the view menu. 
To enable control-left/control-right this is in the Mission Control section of 
the keyboard shortcuts of the keyboard system settings. 
When you first move into the VM, you have to press a key to enable the VM I 
usually press space or delete, but sometimes tab. Then when you need to move 
back to Macintosh applications you can press control-command followed by 
control-left.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Aug 30, 2020, at 1:52 PM, Kliph Senior  wrote:
> 
> How do you put it in full screen mode?
> 
>> On Aug 30, 2020, at 12:03 PM, Jonathan Cohn > <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I generally set things up so that my VM's are in full screen mode, and also 
>> make sure to have enabled control-left / control-right to move from between 
>> virtual screens. I don't usually use a mouse, but when I need a family 
>> member to do something they can.
>> Let me know if you need more specifics.
>> Jonathan 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 at 08:45, Kliph Senior > <mailto:kliph.sen...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Ok, since most work from home jobs these days want you to have a PC, I had 
>> to bight the bullet and get windows 10 with vm fusion 11.  I got it 
>> installed, but for some reason the mouse won’t click in the search box or 
>> any app for that matter.  Trying to get Jaws, but since the mouse won’t 
>> work, I can’t get it.  Any suggestions?  thanks.
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Re: Vm fusion question?

2020-08-30 Thread Kliph Senior
How do you put it in full screen mode?

> On Aug 30, 2020, at 12:03 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> I generally set things up so that my VM's are in full screen mode, and also 
> make sure to have enabled control-left / control-right to move from between 
> virtual screens. I don't usually use a mouse, but when I need a family member 
> to do something they can.
> Let me know if you need more specifics.
> Jonathan 
> 
> 
> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 at 08:45, Kliph Senior  <mailto:kliph.sen...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Ok, since most work from home jobs these days want you to have a PC, I had to 
> bight the bullet and get windows 10 with vm fusion 11.  I got it installed, 
> but for some reason the mouse won’t click in the search box or any app for 
> that matter.  Trying to get Jaws, but since the mouse won’t work, I can’t get 
> it.  Any suggestions?  thanks.
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Re: Vm fusion question?

2020-08-30 Thread Jonathan Cohn
I generally set things up so that my VM's are in full screen mode, and also 
make sure to have enabled control-left / control-right to move from between 
virtual screens. I don't usually use a mouse, but when I need a family member 
to do something they can.
Let me know if you need more specifics.
Jonathan 


On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 at 08:45, Kliph Senior mailto:kliph.sen...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Ok, since most work from home jobs these days want you to have a PC, I had to 
bight the bullet and get windows 10 with vm fusion 11.  I got it installed, but 
for some reason the mouse won’t click in the search box or any app for that 
matter.  Trying to get Jaws, but since the mouse won’t work, I can’t get it.  
Any suggestions?  thanks.

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Re: Vm fusion question?

2020-08-30 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
Make sure you’re in the windows screen.
Otherwise i guess the mouse wont work.
Sometimes i have to do a lot of tabbing to get into the right position to get 
things going.
Not sure if i understand you right though.
/A

> 30 aug. 2020 kl. 14:45 skrev Kliph Senior :
> 
> Ok, since most work from home jobs these days want you to have a PC, I had to 
> bight the bullet and get windows 10 with vm fusion 11.  I got it installed, 
> but for some reason the mouse won’t click in the search box or any app for 
> that matter.  Trying to get Jaws, but since the mouse won’t work, I can’t get 
> it.  Any suggestions?  thanks.
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Vm fusion question?

2020-08-30 Thread Kliph Senior
Ok, since most work from home jobs these days want you to have a PC, I had to 
bight the bullet and get windows 10 with vm fusion 11.  I got it installed, but 
for some reason the mouse won’t click in the search box or any app for that 
matter.  Trying to get Jaws, but since the mouse won’t work, I can’t get it.  
Any suggestions?  thanks.

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RE: Windows Audio wit VM Fusion

2019-06-23 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hi Kelly,

What key presses are you using to start narrator or jaws?

I would suggest turning off voiceover and use the right command key and dtrl 
plus enter to start narrator and then see what you get happening from there?

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of kelly ford
Sent: Monday, 24 June 2019 10:51 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Windows Audio wit VM Fusion

Hi Pete and all,

The sound card is definitely present.  I hear all the standard sounds from 
Windows and when the screen readers are talking, the sound meters indicate that 
audio is being produced.

Kelly

From: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
on behalf of Pete De Vasto 
mailto:pdevasto0...@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Date: Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 3:06 PM
To: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Windows Audio wit VM Fusion

Two thinks, Kelly, that you’ve probably already done but just in case:

1. JAWS, particularly, as you know, has the Sound Card option as one of the 
things in the Utilities folder. See if there’s more than just the default 
Windows sound card as an option.
2. With your VM running, you should be able to do CTRL+Opt+Right to get to 
devices, interact with them and make sure the sound card is present there.

Not sure if this will help but thought I’d suggest anyhow.

Pete De Vasto

On Jun 23, 2019, at 12:07 PM, kelly ford 
mailto:ke...@kellford.com>> wrote:

This is very perplexing.  I have installed the VMWare tools, after using 
sighted help to get through setup.  This has no change.

I hear all the sounds from Windows but no screen reader speech.  I’ve now 
installed JAWS, NVDA and tried Narrator.

I can play music on the virtual machine and hear that.

Kelly


From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Reply-To: 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Date: Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 11:06 AM
To: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Windows Audio wit VM Fusion

Have you installed VMWare Fusion tools?  I had to do it via VMWare Tools menu 
in VMWare window.

Andrew
On Jun 23, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Kelly Ford 
mailto:ke...@kellford.com>> wrote:

It is newer. It is a 2017 model.



On Jun 23, 2019, at 3:03 AM, KliphnShari Miller 
mailto:kliphnsh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
If your macbookpro is not a 2014 or newer, you will have to get sited help to 
assist with the sound card options in the control pannel.
Come checkout the stur it up podcast<https://anchor.fm/stur-it-up>, where we 
discuss technology, sports, have special guests, and is always family friendly
We are on Anchor<https://anchor.fm/stur-it-up>
Spotify<https://open.spotify.com/show/5SiPTJaS2NvouggXLC1je2?nd=1>
Breaker<https://www.breaker.audio/stir-it-up-1>
And on Radio Public<https://radiopublic.com/stur-it-up-6vXORw>
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Also follow us on Twitter<https://twitter.com/SturItUpLive>, during our 
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And our blog<https://sturittup.wordpress.com/> for updates and announcements

On Jun 23, 2019, at 12:13 AM, KellyFord 
mailto:ke...@kellford.com>> wrote:
Hi,

I am curious if anyone else can duplicate an issue or has a suggestion for a 
work around?

I installed Fusion 11 on a MacBook Pro.  I then created a new Windows VM and 
booted from an ISO for the most current release of Windows 10.  I was able to 
get Narrator to start to do the Windows install but have no speech.  I do have 
the sounds Narrator makes when moving around and such just not the voice.

Kelly

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RE: Windows Audio wit VM Fusion

2019-06-23 Thread Simon Fogarty
Try bringing the vm to focus and then switch voiceover off using command f5,
Then try switching narrator jaws or NVDA on.
Narrator would be the simplist one.
Remember that by default the left command key is not going to work as a widnows 
key.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of kelly ford
Sent: Monday, 24 June 2019 7:07 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Windows Audio wit VM Fusion

This is very perplexing.  I have installed the VMWare tools, after using 
sighted help to get through setup.  This has no change.

I hear all the sounds from Windows but no screen reader speech.  I’ve now 
installed JAWS, NVDA and tried Narrator.

I can play music on the virtual machine and hear that.

Kelly


From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Reply-To: 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Date: Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 11:06 AM
To: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Windows Audio wit VM Fusion

Have you installed VMWare Fusion tools?  I had to do it via VMWare Tools menu 
in VMWare window.

Andrew
On Jun 23, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Kelly Ford 
mailto:ke...@kellford.com>> wrote:

It is newer. It is a 2017 model.



On Jun 23, 2019, at 3:03 AM, KliphnShari Miller 
mailto:kliphnsh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
If your macbookpro is not a 2014 or newer, you will have to get sited help to 
assist with the sound card options in the control pannel.
Come checkout the stur it up podcast<https://anchor.fm/stur-it-up>, where we 
discuss technology, sports, have special guests, and is always family friendly
We are on Anchor<https://anchor.fm/stur-it-up>
Spotify<https://open.spotify.com/show/5SiPTJaS2NvouggXLC1je2?nd=1>
Breaker<https://www.breaker.audio/stir-it-up-1>
And on Radio Public<https://radiopublic.com/stur-it-up-6vXORw>
You can send an email between Podcasts with your questions to
sturi...@icloud.com<mailto:sturi...@icloud.com>
Also follow us on Twitter<https://twitter.com/SturItUpLive>, during our 
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And our blog<https://sturittup.wordpress.com/> for updates and announcements

On Jun 23, 2019, at 12:13 AM, KellyFord 
mailto:ke...@kellford.com>> wrote:
Hi,

I am curious if anyone else can duplicate an issue or has a suggestion for a 
work around?

I installed Fusion 11 on a MacBook Pro.  I then created a new Windows VM and 
booted from an ISO for the most current release of Windows 10.  I was able to 
get Narrator to start to do the Windows install but have no speech.  I do have 
the sounds Narrator makes when moving around and such just not the voice.

Kelly

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RE: Windows Audio wit VM Fusion

2019-06-23 Thread Simon Fogarty
If your using fusion then try using a USB speaker or adaptor to get your audio 
out of the windows machine, that should do what you require until you get your 
audio working out of the vm.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Kelly Ford
Sent: Sunday, 23 June 2019 10:28 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Windows Audio wit VM Fusion

It is newer. It is a 2017 model.



On Jun 23, 2019, at 3:03 AM, KliphnShari Miller 
mailto:kliphnsh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
If your macbookpro is not a 2014 or newer, you will have to get sited help to 
assist with the sound card options in the control pannel.

Come checkout the stur it up podcast<https://anchor.fm/stur-it-up>, where we 
discuss technology, sports, have special guests, and is always family friendly

We are on Anchor<https://anchor.fm/stur-it-up>

Spotify<https://open.spotify.com/show/5SiPTJaS2NvouggXLC1je2?nd=1>

Breaker<https://www.breaker.audio/stir-it-up-1>

And on Radio Public<https://radiopublic.com/stur-it-up-6vXORw>

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sturi...@icloud.com<mailto:sturi...@icloud.com>

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On Jun 23, 2019, at 12:13 AM, KellyFord 
mailto:ke...@kellford.com>> wrote:
Hi,

I am curious if anyone else can duplicate an issue or has a suggestion for a 
work around?

I installed Fusion 11 on a MacBook Pro.  I then created a new Windows VM and 
booted from an ISO for the most current release of Windows 10.  I was able to 
get Narrator to start to do the Windows install but have no speech.  I do have 
the sounds Narrator makes when moving around and such just not the voice.

Kelly
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Re: Windows Audio wit VM Fusion

2019-06-23 Thread kelly ford
Hi Pete and all,

 

The sound card is definitely present.  I hear all the standard sounds from 
Windows and when the screen readers are talking, the sound meters indicate that 
audio is being produced.

 

Kelly

 

From:  on behalf of Pete De Vasto 

Reply-To: 
Date: Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 3:06 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: Windows Audio wit VM Fusion

 

Two thinks, Kelly, that you’ve probably already done but just in case:

 

1. JAWS, particularly, as you know, has the Sound Card option as one of the 
things in the Utilities folder. See if there’s more than just the default 
Windows sound card as an option.

2. With your VM running, you should be able to do CTRL+Opt+Right to get to 
devices, interact with them and make sure the sound card is present there.

 

Not sure if this will help but thought I’d suggest anyhow.

 

Pete De Vasto



On Jun 23, 2019, at 12:07 PM, kelly ford  wrote:

 

This is very perplexing.  I have installed the VMWare tools, after using 
sighted help to get through setup.  This has no change.

 

I hear all the sounds from Windows but no screen reader speech.  I’ve now 
installed JAWS, NVDA and tried Narrator.

 

I can play music on the virtual machine and hear that.

 

Kelly

 

 

From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
Reply-To: 
Date: Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 11:06 AM
To: 
Subject: Re: Windows Audio wit VM Fusion

 

Have you installed VMWare Fusion tools?  I had to do it via VMWare Tools menu 
in VMWare window.

 

Andrew

On Jun 23, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Kelly Ford  wrote:

 

It is newer. It is a 2017 model.

 

 


On Jun 23, 2019, at 3:03 AM, KliphnShari Miller  wrote:

If your macbookpro is not a 2014 or newer, you will have to get sited help to 
assist with the sound card options in the control pannel.

Come checkout the stur it up podcast, where we discuss technology, sports, have 
special guests, and is always family friendly

We are on Anchor

Spotify

Breaker

And on Radio Public

You can send an email between Podcasts with your questions to

sturi...@icloud.com

Also follow us on Twitter, during our Shoutcast live Stream

 

And our blog for updates and announcements


On Jun 23, 2019, at 12:13 AM, KellyFord  wrote:

Hi,

 

I am curious if anyone else can duplicate an issue or has a suggestion for a 
work around?

 

I installed Fusion 11 on a MacBook Pro.  I then created a new Windows VM and 
booted from an ISO for the most current release of Windows 10.  I was able to 
get Narrator to start to do the Windows install but have no speech.  I do have 
the sounds Narrator makes when moving around and such just not the voice.

 

Kelly

 

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Re: Windows Audio wit VM Fusion

2019-06-23 Thread Pete De Vasto
Two thinks, Kelly, that you’ve probably already done but just in case:

1. JAWS, particularly, as you know, has the Sound Card option as one of the 
things in the Utilities folder. See if there’s more than just the default 
Windows sound card as an option.
2. With your VM running, you should be able to do CTRL+Opt+Right to get to 
devices, interact with them and make sure the sound card is present there.

Not sure if this will help but thought I’d suggest anyhow.

Pete De Vasto

> On Jun 23, 2019, at 12:07 PM, kelly ford  wrote:
> 
> This is very perplexing.  I have installed the VMWare tools, after using 
> sighted help to get through setup.  This has no change.
>  
> I hear all the sounds from Windows but no screen reader speech.  I’ve now 
> installed JAWS, NVDA and tried Narrator.
>  
> I can play music on the virtual machine and hear that.
>  
> Kelly
>  
>  
> From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
> Reply-To:  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
> Date: Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 11:06 AM
> To: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: Re: Windows Audio wit VM Fusion
>  
> Have you installed VMWare Fusion tools?  I had to do it via VMWare Tools menu 
> in VMWare window.
>  
> Andrew
>> On Jun 23, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Kelly Ford > <mailto:ke...@kellford.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> It is newer. It is a 2017 model.
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> On Jun 23, 2019, at 3:03 AM, KliphnShari Miller > <mailto:kliphnsh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> If your macbookpro is not a 2014 or newer, you will have to get sited help 
>>> to assist with the sound card options in the control pannel.
>>> 
>>> Come checkout the stur it up podcast <https://anchor.fm/stur-it-up>, where 
>>> we discuss technology, sports, have special guests, and is always family 
>>> friendly
>>> 
>>> We are on Anchor <https://anchor.fm/stur-it-up>
>>> Spotify <https://open.spotify.com/show/5SiPTJaS2NvouggXLC1je2?nd=1>
>>> Breaker <https://www.breaker.audio/stir-it-up-1>
>>> And on Radio Public <https://radiopublic.com/stur-it-up-6vXORw>
>>> You can send an email between Podcasts with your questions to
>>> sturi...@icloud.com <mailto:sturi...@icloud.com>
>>> Also follow us on Twitter <https://twitter.com/SturItUpLive>, during our 
>>> Shoutcast live Stream <http://s2.free-shoutcast.com:18228/>
>>>  
>>> And our blog <https://sturittup.wordpress.com/> for updates and 
>>> announcements
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 23, 2019, at 12:13 AM, KellyFord >> <mailto:ke...@kellford.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>>  
>>> I am curious if anyone else can duplicate an issue or has a suggestion for 
>>> a work around?
>>>  
>>> I installed Fusion 11 on a MacBook Pro.  I then created a new Windows VM 
>>> and booted from an ISO for the most current release of Windows 10.  I was 
>>> able to get Narrator to start to do the Windows install but have no speech. 
>>>  I do have the sounds Narrator makes when moving around and such just not 
>>> the voice.
>>>  
>>> Kelly
>>>  
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Re: Windows Audio wit VM Fusion

2019-06-23 Thread kelly ford
This is very perplexing.  I have installed the VMWare tools, after using 
sighted help to get through setup.  This has no change.

 

I hear all the sounds from Windows but no screen reader speech.  I’ve now 
installed JAWS, NVDA and tried Narrator.

 

I can play music on the virtual machine and hear that.

 

Kelly

 

 

From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
Reply-To: 
Date: Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 11:06 AM
To: 
Subject: Re: Windows Audio wit VM Fusion

 

Have you installed VMWare Fusion tools?  I had to do it via VMWare Tools menu 
in VMWare window.

 

Andrew

On Jun 23, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Kelly Ford  wrote:

 

It is newer. It is a 2017 model.

 

 


On Jun 23, 2019, at 3:03 AM, KliphnShari Miller  wrote:

If your macbookpro is not a 2014 or newer, you will have to get sited help to 
assist with the sound card options in the control pannel.

Come checkout the stur it up podcast, where we discuss technology, sports, have 
special guests, and is always family friendly

We are on Anchor

Spotify

Breaker

And on Radio Public

You can send an email between Podcasts with your questions to

sturi...@icloud.com

Also follow us on Twitter, during our Shoutcast live Stream

 

And our blog for updates and announcements


On Jun 23, 2019, at 12:13 AM, KellyFord  wrote:

Hi,

 

I am curious if anyone else can duplicate an issue or has a suggestion for a 
work around?

 

I installed Fusion 11 on a MacBook Pro.  I then created a new Windows VM and 
booted from an ISO for the most current release of Windows 10.  I was able to 
get Narrator to start to do the Windows install but have no speech.  I do have 
the sounds Narrator makes when moving around and such just not the voice.

 

Kelly

 

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Re: Windows Audio wit VM Fusion

2019-06-23 Thread 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
Have you installed VMWare Fusion tools?  I had to do it via VMWare Tools menu 
in VMWare window.

Andrew
> On Jun 23, 2019, at 11:28 AM, Kelly Ford  wrote:
> 
> It is newer. It is a 2017 model.
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 23, 2019, at 3:03 AM, KliphnShari Miller  > wrote:
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>> If your macbookpro is not a 2014 or newer, you will have to get sited help 
>> to assist with the sound card options in the control pannel.
>> 
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>> On Jun 23, 2019, at 12:13 AM, KellyFord > > wrote:
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>> Hi,
>>  
>> I am curious if anyone else can duplicate an issue or has a suggestion for a 
>> work around?
>>  
>> I installed Fusion 11 on a MacBook Pro.  I then created a new Windows VM and 
>> booted from an ISO for the most current release of Windows 10.  I was able 
>> to get Narrator to start to do the Windows install but have no speech.  I do 
>> have the sounds Narrator makes when moving around and such just not the 
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Re: Windows Audio wit VM Fusion

2019-06-23 Thread Kelly Ford
It is newer. It is a 2017 model.



> On Jun 23, 2019, at 3:03 AM, KliphnShari Miller  wrote:
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> If your macbookpro is not a 2014 or newer, you will have to get sited help to 
> assist with the sound card options in the control pannel.
> 
> Come checkout the stur it up podcast, where we discuss technology, sports, 
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> On Jun 23, 2019, at 12:13 AM, KellyFord  wrote:
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> Hi,
>  
> I am curious if anyone else can duplicate an issue or has a suggestion for a 
> work around?
>  
> I installed Fusion 11 on a MacBook Pro.  I then created a new Windows VM and 
> booted from an ISO for the most current release of Windows 10.  I was able to 
> get Narrator to start to do the Windows install but have no speech.  I do 
> have the sounds Narrator makes when moving around and such just not the voice.
>  
> Kelly
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Re: Windows Audio wit VM Fusion

2019-06-23 Thread KliphnShari Miller
If your macbookpro is not a 2014 or newer, you will have to get sited help to 
assist with the sound card options in the control pannel.

Come checkout the stur it up podcast, where we discuss technology, sports, have 
special guests, and is always family friendly

We are on Anchor

Spotify

Breaker

And on Radio Public

You can send an email between Podcasts with your questions to
sturi...@icloud.com
Also follow us on Twitter, during our Shoutcast live Stream
And our blog for updates and announcements


On Jun 23, 2019, at 12:13 AM, KellyFord  wrote:

Hi,
 
I am curious if anyone else can duplicate an issue or has a suggestion for a 
work around?
 
I installed Fusion 11 on a MacBook Pro.  I then created a new Windows VM and 
booted from an ISO for the most current release of Windows 10.  I was able to 
get Narrator to start to do the Windows install but have no speech.  I do have 
the sounds Narrator makes when moving around and such just not the voice.
 
Kelly
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Windows Audio wit VM Fusion

2019-06-22 Thread KellyFord
Hi,

 

I am curious if anyone else can duplicate an issue or has a suggestion for a
work around?

 

I installed Fusion 11 on a MacBook Pro.  I then created a new Windows VM and
booted from an ISO for the most current release of Windows 10.  I was able
to get Narrator to start to do the Windows install but have no speech.  I do
have the sounds Narrator makes when moving around and such just not the
voice.

 

Kelly

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Re: VM fusion question

2019-02-10 Thread 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
Your explanation is really very good.  It’s always been tricky for me, but I 
use the same method.

Andrew
> On Feb 7, 2019, at 11:23 PM, Pete De Vasto  wrote:
> 
> Hema,
> 
> It’s a bit tricky, but let me see if I can explain it right: When you’re in 
> Windows, press Control+Command. Then, you can use Command+Tab to move away 
> from VMware Fusion to any other app you might have running. All the VO 
> command will work once you have done the Control+command keystroke.
> 
> Now, to get back to Windows under VM is where it’s a little tricky. First, 
> Use either command+Tab or the dock to get back to VMware Fusion. Then, wait a 
> few seconds. Wait a few seconds, and hopefully VO will say something like 
> VMware Fusion, full screen, the name of your Windows virtual machine. If this 
> happens, press Control+G to tell VMware Fusion to get control of the 
> keyboard. If Control+G doesn’t work, I have to press Control+Command+F. I 
> will hear VO say “space with applications” followed by all the applications 
> you have currently open. You then may have to use Command+Tab to get back to 
> VMware Fusion once more. Then wait a few seconds until hopefully you hear VO 
> Say “space containing” the name of your windows machine, full screen. Once 
> that happens, you should be back in your Windows environment and the keyboard 
> commands will work for you.
> 
> Please, anyone else who uses VMware Fusion, feel free to chime in if you 
> think you can make this explanation clearer. I’ve been thinking how to write 
> this all afternoon, and I’m still not sure I’ve explained it clearly but 
> didn’t want any more time to go by before posting.
> 
> Pete De Vasto
> 
>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 9:40 AM, Hemachandran Karaha > <mailto:hemaka...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> Hi all,
>>  
>> Kindly let me know how to use VM fusion effectively to alternate between 
>> Windows and Mac. I am making this request for the third time on this list. 
>> Hope I will get a response this time.
>>  
>> Warmly,
>> Hema.
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Re: VM fusion question

2019-02-07 Thread Sandie Jazmin Kruse
I do the same ,if it doesn’t work, write again so we can help you.

Sent from my iPad

> On 8 Feb 2019, at 04.13, Hemachandran Karaha  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Pete and all for chiming in.
>  
> Let me try and get back.
>  
> Warmly,
> Hema.
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Pete De Vasto
> Sent: 08 February 2019 04:53
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: VM fusion question
>  
> Hema,
>  
> It’s a bit tricky, but let me see if I can explain it right: When you’re in 
> Windows, press Control+Command. Then, you can use Command+Tab to move away 
> from VMware Fusion to any other app you might have running. All the VO 
> command will work once you have done the Control+command keystroke.
>  
> Now, to get back to Windows under VM is where it’s a little tricky. First, 
> Use either command+Tab or the dock to get back to VMware Fusion. Then, wait a 
> few seconds. Wait a few seconds, and hopefully VO will say something like 
> VMware Fusion, full screen, the name of your Windows virtual machine. If this 
> happens, press Control+G to tell VMware Fusion to get control of the 
> keyboard. If Control+G doesn’t work, I have to press Control+Command+F. I 
> will hear VO say “space with applications” followed by all the applications 
> you have currently open. You then may have to use Command+Tab to get back to 
> VMware Fusion once more. Then wait a few seconds until hopefully you hear VO 
> Say “space containing” the name of your windows machine, full screen. Once 
> that happens, you should be back in your Windows environment and the keyboard 
> commands will work for you.
>  
> Please, anyone else who uses VMware Fusion, feel free to chime in if you 
> think you can make this explanation clearer. I’ve been thinking how to write 
> this all afternoon, and I’m still not sure I’ve explained it clearly but 
> didn’t want any more time to go by before posting.
>  
> Pete De Vasto
> 
> 
> On Feb 7, 2019, at 9:40 AM, Hemachandran Karaha  wrote:
>  
> Hi all,
>  
> Kindly let me know how to use VM fusion effectively to alternate between 
> Windows and Mac. I am making this request for the third time on this list. 
> Hope I will get a response this time.
>  
> Warmly,
> Hema.
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RE: VM fusion question

2019-02-07 Thread Hemachandran Karaha
Thanks Pete and all for chiming in.

 

Let me try and get back.

 

Warmly,

Hema.

 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Pete De Vasto
Sent: 08 February 2019 04:53
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VM fusion question

 

Hema,

 

It’s a bit tricky, but let me see if I can explain it right: When you’re in 
Windows, press Control+Command. Then, you can use Command+Tab to move away from 
VMware Fusion to any other app you might have running. All the VO command will 
work once you have done the Control+command keystroke.

 

Now, to get back to Windows under VM is where it’s a little tricky. First, Use 
either command+Tab or the dock to get back to VMware Fusion. Then, wait a few 
seconds. Wait a few seconds, and hopefully VO will say something like VMware 
Fusion, full screen, the name of your Windows virtual machine. If this happens, 
press Control+G to tell VMware Fusion to get control of the keyboard. If 
Control+G doesn’t work, I have to press Control+Command+F. I will hear VO say 
“space with applications” followed by all the applications you have currently 
open. You then may have to use Command+Tab to get back to VMware Fusion once 
more. Then wait a few seconds until hopefully you hear VO Say “space 
containing” the name of your windows machine, full screen. Once that happens, 
you should be back in your Windows environment and the keyboard commands will 
work for you.

 

Please, anyone else who uses VMware Fusion, feel free to chime in if you think 
you can make this explanation clearer. I’ve been thinking how to write this all 
afternoon, and I’m still not sure I’ve explained it clearly but didn’t want any 
more time to go by before posting.

 

Pete De Vasto





On Feb 7, 2019, at 9:40 AM, Hemachandran Karaha mailto:hemaka...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi all,

 

Kindly let me know how to use VM fusion effectively to alternate between 
Windows and Mac. I am making this request for the third time on this list. Hope 
I will get a response this time.

 

Warmly,

Hema.

 

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Re: VM fusion podcaast

2019-02-07 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries

   You bet Pete.

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On 2/7/2019 4:16 PM, Pete De Vasto wrote:

Thank you very much, E.T., for chiming in. I had been looking for a way to turn 
VO off but every time I tried to do Command+F5 I couldn’t get it to work. Your 
instructions are very helpful!

Pete


On Feb 7, 2019, at 3:58 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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   As has been said, its tricky. You will need to be very methodical, and be 
careful with keystrokes. Inadvertently pressing a Mac command while in the 
Windows VM can throw back into the Mac environment.

   Launch Fusion. Press VO space to launch your Windows VM. Wait for it to 
boot. Press command f5 to turn VO off. Press command g to grab the keyboard. 
You should now have control in your Windows VM.

   If you want to enter the Mac environment, press command control to ungrab 
the keyboard then press command f5 to turn VO back on. You are now working in 
your Mac.

   When you want back in the VM, command tab to it and when focused on it, 
again press command f5 to turn VO off and press command g to grab the keyboard.

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Hi all,
Kindly let me know whether we can get a detailed podcast on running VM fusion 
on a Mac. I like to also run Windows with Jaws on.
Warmly,
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Re: VM fusion podcaast

2019-02-07 Thread Pete De Vasto
Thank you very much, E.T., for chiming in. I had been looking for a way to turn 
VO off but every time I tried to do Command+F5 I couldn’t get it to work. Your 
instructions are very helpful!

Pete

> On Feb 7, 2019, at 3:58 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   As has been said, its tricky. You will need to be very methodical, and be 
> careful with keystrokes. Inadvertently pressing a Mac command while in the 
> Windows VM can throw back into the Mac environment.
> 
>   Launch Fusion. Press VO space to launch your Windows VM. Wait for it to 
> boot. Press command f5 to turn VO off. Press command g to grab the keyboard. 
> You should now have control in your Windows VM.
> 
>   If you want to enter the Mac environment, press command control to ungrab 
> the keyboard then press command f5 to turn VO back on. You are now working in 
> your Mac.
> 
>   When you want back in the VM, command tab to it and when focused on it, 
> again press command f5 to turn VO off and press command g to grab the 
> keyboard.
> 
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> 
> On 2/4/2019 4:01 AM, Hemachandran Karaha wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Kindly let me know whether we can get a detailed podcast on running VM 
>> fusion on a Mac. I like to also run Windows with Jaws on.
>> Warmly,
>> Hem.
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Re: VM fusion podcaast

2019-02-07 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
   As has been said, its tricky. You will need to be very methodical, 
and be careful with keystrokes. Inadvertently pressing a Mac command 
while in the Windows VM can throw back into the Mac environment.


   Launch Fusion. Press VO space to launch your Windows VM. Wait for it 
to boot. Press command f5 to turn VO off. Press command g to grab the 
keyboard. You should now have control in your Windows VM.


   If you want to enter the Mac environment, press command control to 
ungrab the keyboard then press command f5 to turn VO back on. You are 
now working in your Mac.


   When you want back in the VM, command tab to it and when focused on 
it, again press command f5 to turn VO off and press command g to grab 
the keyboard.


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On 2/4/2019 4:01 AM, Hemachandran Karaha wrote:

Hi all,

Kindly let me know whether we can get a detailed podcast on running VM 
fusion on a Mac. I like to also run Windows with Jaws on.


Warmly,

Hem.

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Re: VM fusion question

2019-02-07 Thread Pete De Vasto
Hema,

It’s a bit tricky, but let me see if I can explain it right: When you’re in 
Windows, press Control+Command. Then, you can use Command+Tab to move away from 
VMware Fusion to any other app you might have running. All the VO command will 
work once you have done the Control+command keystroke.

Now, to get back to Windows under VM is where it’s a little tricky. First, Use 
either command+Tab or the dock to get back to VMware Fusion. Then, wait a few 
seconds. Wait a few seconds, and hopefully VO will say something like VMware 
Fusion, full screen, the name of your Windows virtual machine. If this happens, 
press Control+G to tell VMware Fusion to get control of the keyboard. If 
Control+G doesn’t work, I have to press Control+Command+F. I will hear VO say 
“space with applications” followed by all the applications you have currently 
open. You then may have to use Command+Tab to get back to VMware Fusion once 
more. Then wait a few seconds until hopefully you hear VO Say “space 
containing” the name of your windows machine, full screen. Once that happens, 
you should be back in your Windows environment and the keyboard commands will 
work for you.

Please, anyone else who uses VMware Fusion, feel free to chime in if you think 
you can make this explanation clearer. I’ve been thinking how to write this all 
afternoon, and I’m still not sure I’ve explained it clearly but didn’t want any 
more time to go by before posting.

Pete De Vasto

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Re: VM fusion question

2019-02-07 Thread KliphnShari Miller
When fusion is running, it depends on how you have things setup.  But I use 
command tab to go between both systems


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VM fusion question

2019-02-07 Thread Hemachandran Karaha
Hi all,

 

Kindly let me know how to use VM fusion effectively to alternate between 
Windows and Mac. I am making this request for the third time on this list. Hope 
I will get a response this time.

 

Warmly,

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VM fusion

2019-02-06 Thread Hemachandran Karaha
Dear all,

 

I have a Maltron ergonomic keyboard for windows. I just installed VM fusion on 
Mac, and I love it. Is there any way I can use the same Windows keyboard for 
both the operating systems. I don’t understand well concept such as keyboard 
mapping. Kindly help me.

 

Take care,

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VM fusion podcaast

2019-02-04 Thread Hemachandran Karaha
Hi all,

 

Kindly let me know whether we can get a detailed podcast on running VM fusion 
on a Mac. I like to also run Windows with Jaws on.

 

Warmly,

Hem.

 

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Need help with vm fusion 11, or 10

2019-01-14 Thread KliphnShari Miller
Okay, I am trying to install windows 10 from a disk, but it keeps saying there 
is no operating system found.  What am I doing wrong?  Thanks.

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RE: Bootcamp vs VM fusion?

2017-08-04 Thread ilovecountrymusic483
Hi,

One advantage of using boot camp is that all the resorsis are used and this 
could come ion handy, but you would need a pare of usb headphones to get sound 
at first dirring the install.  If you use vmware you will have to alacate ram 
for your vm.  HTH.

Matthew



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Subject: Bootcamp vs VM fusion?

So, I have used fusion in the past, but never fusion.  Someone asked me witch 
is better, but since I have never given bootcamp a spin, I can’t answer that.  
So, anybody tried both, what is the advantages and disadvantages?  Except with 
fusion I know you can run both systems at once, so besides that?  Personally, I 
don’t even use windows enough to care, but told this friend I would ask the 
experts.lol

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RE: Bootcamp vs VM fusion?

2017-08-04 Thread Simon Fogarty
I have used both and use bootcamp on a daily basis 

 Fusion allows you to run both the mac and the windows machine at the same time 
and flick between the 2 systems where as bootcamp is to be a more stable 
platform but doesn't give you the option to switch easily without having to 
restart your machine.

Either option has it's pros and cons, but it's really up to the user to figure 
out what is better for them themselves.

Fusion is very good and out of the vm platforms it is pretty much fully 
accessible. Bootcamp has some limitations regarding setup of the windows OS 
such as no audio output until the bootcamp drivers are installed which is the 
last step of the installation.

Fusion will let you install the os through the installation wizard.

Hope this is of some use.

Simon f

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So, I have used fusion in the past, but never fusion.  Someone asked me witch 
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Re: Bootcamp vs VM fusion?

2017-08-03 Thread Scott Granados
So I have used both, fusion is a better solution.

Bootcamp has the advantage of running natively so probably faster than in a VM 
but that’s about it for advantages.  You can’t use it as the same time as OS X, 
the drive / boot loader selection screen is not accessible although very 
memorizable, the OS X side needs to read NTFS to gain access to the volume and 
you can’t easily move images around.

Advantages of fusion are you can easily backup images, copy them from machine 
to machine, run them at the same time as OS X and the easy installer with 
fusion makes windows so easy to install with out site assistance.  In my 
opinion bootcamp has little value.  If you want to run windows get a windows 
machine.:)


> On Aug 3, 2017, at 9:01 PM, Kliphton Miller  wrote:
> 
> So, I have used fusion in the past, but never fusion.  Someone asked me witch 
> is better, but since I have never given bootcamp a spin, I can’t answer that. 
>  So, anybody tried both, what is the advantages and disadvantages?  Except 
> with fusion I know you can run both systems at once, so besides that?  
> Personally, I don’t even use windows enough to care, but told this friend I 
> would ask the experts.lol
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Bootcamp vs VM fusion?

2017-08-03 Thread Kliphton Miller
So, I have used fusion in the past, but never fusion.  Someone asked me witch 
is better, but since I have never given bootcamp a spin, I can’t answer that.  
So, anybody tried both, what is the advantages and disadvantages?  Except with 
fusion I know you can run both systems at once, so besides that?  Personally, I 
don’t even use windows enough to care, but told this friend I would ask the 
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Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

2016-11-21 Thread Scott Granados
I noticed this as well.  It looks like an interesting product and the 
installation is very accessible but it all goes sideways once you run the 
application for the first time.  To bad bu I like fusion well enough so at 
least we have a very good option there and virtual box will be the next thing I 
experiment with.



> On Nov 21, 2016, at 8:16 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> Frustratingly the Paralells desktop is still inaccessible.
> I have mailed them a few times about this but with no luck.
> /A
>> 18 nov. 2016 kl. 01:07 skrev Scott Granados :
>> 
>> Very good.  For a goof I just tried parallels with their trial option.  Talk 
>> about less than useless.  Completely and utterly inaccessible.  I was 
>> hopeful that over all this time things had improved but no such luck.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 5:07 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Scott,
>>> I do not remember what version of Fusion I started with. I do not think the 
>>> force grab function was brought over to version 8. It used to be on the 
>>> Virtual Machine menu. I looked at version 8 release notes and found nothing.
>>> 
>>> If we can find out what replaces the force grab, we might have solved it.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Without H2O there is no life!
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 11/17/2016 1:06 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 It does and I’ll do some googling on the command g feature, maybe I can 
 shed some light on this by playing with it more myself.
 
 Thanks as always ET.
 
 And good comments from Janina this might be worth some communication with 
 VMWare once I’m more confident it’s not the user behind my keyboard that’s 
 the problem.:)
 
> On Nov 17, 2016, at 4:03 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Scott,
> Ok here is what I think would be worth studying. I was just in my VM and 
> my frustration level is still a bit high so will not run it again for now.
> 
> Seems Command-G was on the menu when I first started using VMware. Its no 
> longer there yet it seems to still work. I want to play with this a lot 
> more though and confirm some suspicions. Its supposed to grab the 
> heyboard away from the Mac.
> 
> This may not work any more as lately I have found just pressing a wrong 
> key or too long throws things around and I have trouble getting focused 
> on the VM again.
> 
> So perhaps Command-G really is not used any more. When I run the VM in 
> full screen I am not interested in switching between Mac and Windows. Yet 
> I want access to the menu bar. I have disabled the VM toolbar and mini 
> bar. I think I have conflicts here though by inadvertently pressing Mac 
> keystrokes.
> 
> Did this make sense?
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 11/17/2016 12:42 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> I misspoke I meant command G not control G.  Command G doesn’t seem to 
>> do anything for me, maybe I’m using it at the wrong time, not sure.
>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 2:01 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Scott,
>>> I do not see that command in my list of shortcuts. When I load my VM 
>>> and wait long enough to let Windows fully load. I press Cmd-G to grab 
>>> the keyboard and then Cmd-Ctrl-F to enter full screen.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Without H2O there is no life!
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 11/17/2016 10:45 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 Hi, I wanted to confirm this.
 
 When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to 
 allow me to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk sound 
 when I press this combo and nothing happens.  In most cases, in full 
 screen mode I can’t enter the VM and in zoom reduced mode I can but by 
 tabbing past the snapshots button I will drop in to the vm.  Is there 
 a more simple mechanism, do I have the keystroke wrong?  Any pointers 
 would be most appreciated.
 
 Thank you
 
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Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

2016-11-21 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
Frustratingly the Paralells desktop is still inaccessible.
I have mailed them a few times about this but with no luck.
/A
> 18 nov. 2016 kl. 01:07 skrev Scott Granados :
> 
> Very good.  For a goof I just tried parallels with their trial option.  Talk 
> about less than useless.  Completely and utterly inaccessible.  I was hopeful 
> that over all this time things had improved but no such luck.
> 
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 5:07 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>> Scott,
>>  I do not remember what version of Fusion I started with. I do not think the 
>> force grab function was brought over to version 8. It used to be on the 
>> Virtual Machine menu. I looked at version 8 release notes and found nothing.
>> 
>>  If we can find out what replaces the force grab, we might have solved it.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Without H2O there is no life!
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 11/17/2016 1:06 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> It does and I’ll do some googling on the command g feature, maybe I can 
>>> shed some light on this by playing with it more myself.
>>> 
>>> Thanks as always ET.
>>> 
>>> And good comments from Janina this might be worth some communication with 
>>> VMWare once I’m more confident it’s not the user behind my keyboard that’s 
>>> the problem.:)
>>> 
 On Nov 17, 2016, at 4:03 PM, E.T.  wrote:
 
 Scott,
 Ok here is what I think would be worth studying. I was just in my VM and 
 my frustration level is still a bit high so will not run it again for now.
 
 Seems Command-G was on the menu when I first started using VMware. Its no 
 longer there yet it seems to still work. I want to play with this a lot 
 more though and confirm some suspicions. Its supposed to grab the heyboard 
 away from the Mac.
 
 This may not work any more as lately I have found just pressing a wrong 
 key or too long throws things around and I have trouble getting focused on 
 the VM again.
 
 So perhaps Command-G really is not used any more. When I run the VM in 
 full screen I am not interested in switching between Mac and Windows. Yet 
 I want access to the menu bar. I have disabled the VM toolbar and mini 
 bar. I think I have conflicts here though by inadvertently pressing Mac 
 keystrokes.
 
 Did this make sense?
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Without H2O there is no life!
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
 On 11/17/2016 12:42 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> I misspoke I meant command G not control G.  Command G doesn’t seem to do 
> anything for me, maybe I’m using it at the wrong time, not sure.
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 2:01 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>> Scott,
>> I do not see that command in my list of shortcuts. When I load my VM and 
>> wait long enough to let Windows fully load. I press Cmd-G to grab the 
>> keyboard and then Cmd-Ctrl-F to enter full screen.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Without H2O there is no life!
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 11/17/2016 10:45 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> Hi, I wanted to confirm this.
>>> 
>>> When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to 
>>> allow me to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk sound 
>>> when I press this combo and nothing happens.  In most cases, in full 
>>> screen mode I can’t enter the VM and in zoom reduced mode I can but by 
>>> tabbing past the snapshots button I will drop in to the vm.  Is there a 
>>> more simple mechanism, do I have the keystroke wrong?  Any pointers 
>>> would be most appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Thank you
>>> 
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Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

2016-11-20 Thread E.T.

   I cannot look now but command-g is under one of those tabs.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/20/2016 3:51 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

So command G is not mentioned anywhere in the preferences list either under the 
application shortcuts or fusion shortcuts, I looked through all 4 sections.  
There is the command control to release but no command G in my fusion 8.5.


On Nov 19, 2016, at 2:55 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:

Yes it is on the other vm work station products,

I think from memory it is for fustion also, but something makes me think 
command g.

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Subject: The control-G vm fusion question again

Hi, I wanted to confirm this.

When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to allow me 
to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk sound when I press this 
combo and nothing happens.  In most cases, in full screen mode I can’t enter 
the VM and in zoom reduced mode I can but by tabbing past the snapshots button 
I will drop in to the vm.  Is there a more simple mechanism, do I have the 
keystroke wrong?  Any pointers would be most appreciated.

Thank you

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Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

2016-11-20 Thread Scott Granados
So command G is not mentioned anywhere in the preferences list either under the 
application shortcuts or fusion shortcuts, I looked through all 4 sections.  
There is the command control to release but no command G in my fusion 8.5.

> On Nov 19, 2016, at 2:55 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes it is on the other vm work station products,
> 
> I think from memory it is for fustion also, but something makes me think 
> command g.
> 
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> To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: The control-G vm fusion question again
> 
> Hi, I wanted to confirm this.
> 
> When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to allow me 
> to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk sound when I press 
> this combo and nothing happens.  In most cases, in full screen mode I can’t 
> enter the VM and in zoom reduced mode I can but by tabbing past the snapshots 
> button I will drop in to the vm.  Is there a more simple mechanism, do I have 
> the keystroke wrong?  Any pointers would be most appreciated.
> 
> Thank you
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RE: The control-G vm fusion question again

2016-11-18 Thread Simon Fogarty
Yes it is on the other vm work station products,

 I think from memory it is for fustion also, but something makes me think 
command g.

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Subject: The control-G vm fusion question again

Hi, I wanted to confirm this.

When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to allow me 
to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk sound when I press this 
combo and nothing happens.  In most cases, in full screen mode I can’t enter 
the VM and in zoom reduced mode I can but by tabbing past the snapshots button 
I will drop in to the vm.  Is there a more simple mechanism, do I have the 
keystroke wrong?  Any pointers would be most appreciated.

Thank you

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Re: control alt delete and VM Fusion

2016-11-18 Thread Michael Marshall
tried that but VO would not start on the VM, god knows what was on the screen.
will keep playing around.
> On 19 Nov 2016, at 11:56 am, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Crazy thought here,
>  
> If you can get to the vm and then ctrl g to grab the vm screan, can you turn 
> off vo for the host machine and then see if it gives you keyboard interaction 
> in the VM
>  
> I had this situation with one of my vm’s and turning off vo on the host 
> allowed me to grab the vm system without issues.
>  
>  
>  
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>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Michael Marshall
> Sent: Saturday, 19 November 2016 11:56 AM
> To: 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: Re: control alt delete and VM Fusion
>  
> I cannot even control a Mac virtual machine with the keyboard using fusion.
> cmd f5 starts VO on the main system.
> On 19 Nov 2016, at 12:40 am, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>  
> I generally have VM fusion working fairly well, but keystrokes that involve 
> control-alt are never very consistent. Sometimes when I use command-G it 
> works but what is very strange in my view is that sometimes I have to turn 
> numpad commander on and then control-alt and a numpad key work fine (table 
> navigation in JAWS and delete commands) at other times I can't get any key 
> combination that includes control -alt to be passed to my VM. I am thinking 
> of migrating my vm that contains development environments into a bootcamp 
> partition, but then I expect I'll have to re-license quite a few things. 
>  
> I also seem to remember some discussion of forcing an external keyboard to be 
> exclusively dedicated to the VM are there any official notes on this perhaps? 
> I wouldn't mind just switching keyboards to switch OS on my system.
>  
>  
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: control alt delete and VM Fusion

2016-11-18 Thread Simon Fogarty
Crazy thought here,

If you can get to the vm and then ctrl g to grab the vm screan, can you turn 
off vo for the host machine and then see if it gives you keyboard interaction 
in the VM

I had this situation with one of my vm’s and turning off vo on the host allowed 
me to grab the vm system without issues.



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Sent: Saturday, 19 November 2016 11:56 AM
To: 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: control alt delete and VM Fusion

I cannot even control a Mac virtual machine with the keyboard using fusion.
cmd f5 starts VO on the main system.
On 19 Nov 2016, at 12:40 am, Jonathan Cohn 
<jon.c.c...@gmail.com<mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I generally have VM fusion working fairly well, but keystrokes that involve 
control-alt are never very consistent. Sometimes when I use command-G it works 
but what is very strange in my view is that sometimes I have to turn numpad 
commander on and then control-alt and a numpad key work fine (table navigation 
in JAWS and delete commands) at other times I can't get any key combination 
that includes control -alt to be passed to my VM. I am thinking of migrating my 
vm that contains development environments into a bootcamp partition, but then I 
expect I'll have to re-license quite a few things.

I also seem to remember some discussion of forcing an external keyboard to be 
exclusively dedicated to the VM are there any official notes on this perhaps? I 
wouldn't mind just switching keyboards to switch OS on my system.


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn




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Re: control alt delete and VM Fusion

2016-11-18 Thread Michael Marshall
I cannot even control a Mac virtual machine with the keyboard using fusion.
cmd f5 starts VO on the main system.
> On 19 Nov 2016, at 12:40 am, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I generally have VM fusion working fairly well, but keystrokes that involve 
> control-alt are never very consistent. Sometimes when I use command-G it 
> works but what is very strange in my view is that sometimes I have to turn 
> numpad commander on and then control-alt and a numpad key work fine (table 
> navigation in JAWS and delete commands) at other times I can't get any key 
> combination that includes control -alt to be passed to my VM. I am thinking 
> of migrating my vm that contains development environments into a bootcamp 
> partition, but then I expect I'll have to re-license quite a few things. 
> 
> I also seem to remember some discussion of forcing an external keyboard to be 
> exclusively dedicated to the VM are there any official notes on this perhaps? 
> I wouldn't mind just switching keyboards to switch OS on my system.
> 
>  
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn 
> 
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Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

2016-11-18 Thread Scott Granados
Interesting, thanks, I’m going to check out the mappings as well.

> On Nov 18, 2016, at 4:03 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Scott,
>   After reading Garry's post. I decided to run into the Fusion keyboard 
> preferences. I looked at the mappings under a couple of the tabs. Command-G 
> is a valid command to grab keyboard and mouse from the Mac. Command-control 
> will ungrab and return control to the Mac.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 11/18/2016 5:16 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> This is what I do as well. Also, I think it was Chris Moore who pointed me 
>> at the command control f to go full screen which is working.  Big thanks to 
>> everyone for the suggestions.
>> 
>>> On Nov 18, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Garry Turkington  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I use Fusion with multiple VMs every day and I don't have an issue
>>> reliably getting input captured by the VM.
>>> 
>>> What I do is use VO to move right along the buttons on the VM
>>> interface. After the "full screen" button I get the name of the VM
>>> read out and when focus is on that any keystrokes go to the VM which
>>> then captures input. I use this method on both Windows and Linux VMs.
>>> 
>>> This is on the latest version of Fusion though still on El Kapitan
>>> because I don't have time to work out the whole Seil/Caribener thing
>>> in Sierra yet.
>>> 
>>> Garry
>>> 
>>> On 11/18/16, E.T.  wrote:
   I ran VM a bit ago and this time I did not execute command-g. I did
 not do a lot but found things worked just fine. Will need to do more
 experimenting.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Without H2O there is no life!
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
 On 11/17/2016 4:07 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> Very good.  For a goof I just tried parallels with their trial option.
> Talk about less than useless.  Completely and utterly inaccessible.  I was
> hopeful that over all this time things had improved but no such luck.
> 
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 5:07 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>> Scott,
>> I do not remember what version of Fusion I started with. I do not think
>> the force grab function was brought over to version 8. It used to be on
>> the Virtual Machine menu. I looked at version 8 release notes and found
>> nothing.
>> 
>> If we can find out what replaces the force grab, we might have solved
>> it.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Without H2O there is no life!
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 11/17/2016 1:06 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> It does and I’ll do some googling on the command g feature, maybe I can
>>> shed some light on this by playing with it more myself.
>>> 
>>> Thanks as always ET.
>>> 
>>> And good comments from Janina this might be worth some communication
>>> with VMWare once I’m more confident it’s not the user behind my keyboard
>>> that’s the problem.:)
>>> 
 On Nov 17, 2016, at 4:03 PM, E.T.  wrote:
 
 Scott,
 Ok here is what I think would be worth studying. I was just in my VM
 and my frustration level is still a bit high so will not run it again
 for now.
 
 Seems Command-G was on the menu when I first started using VMware. Its
 no longer there yet it seems to still work. I want to play with this a
 lot more though and confirm some suspicions. Its supposed to grab the
 heyboard away from the Mac.
 
 This may not work any more as lately I have found just pressing a
 wrong key or too long throws things around and I have trouble getting
 focused on the VM again.
 
 So perhaps Command-G really is not used any more. When I run the VM in
 full screen I am not interested in switching between Mac and Windows.
 Yet I want access to the menu bar. I have disabled the VM toolbar and
 mini bar. I think I have conflicts here though by inadvertently
 pressing Mac keystrokes.
 
 Did this make sense?
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Without H2O there is no life!
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
 On 11/17/2016 12:42 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> I misspoke I meant command G not control G.  Command G doesn’t seem to
> do anything for me, maybe I’m using it at the wrong time, not sure.
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 2:01 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>> Scott,
>> I do not see that command in my list of shortcuts. When I load my VM
>> and wait long enough to let Windows fully load. I press Cmd-G to grab
>> the keyboard and then Cmd-Ctrl-F to enter full screen.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Without H2O 

Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

2016-11-18 Thread E.T.

Scott,
   After reading Garry's post. I decided to run into the Fusion 
keyboard preferences. I looked at the mappings under a couple of the 
tabs. Command-G is a valid command to grab keyboard and mouse from the 
Mac. Command-control will ungrab and return control to the Mac.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/18/2016 5:16 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

This is what I do as well. Also, I think it was Chris Moore who pointed me at 
the command control f to go full screen which is working.  Big thanks to 
everyone for the suggestions.


On Nov 18, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Garry Turkington  wrote:

I use Fusion with multiple VMs every day and I don't have an issue
reliably getting input captured by the VM.

What I do is use VO to move right along the buttons on the VM
interface. After the "full screen" button I get the name of the VM
read out and when focus is on that any keystrokes go to the VM which
then captures input. I use this method on both Windows and Linux VMs.

This is on the latest version of Fusion though still on El Kapitan
because I don't have time to work out the whole Seil/Caribener thing
in Sierra yet.

Garry

On 11/18/16, E.T.  wrote:

   I ran VM a bit ago and this time I did not execute command-g. I did
not do a lot but found things worked just fine. Will need to do more
experimenting.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 4:07 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

Very good.  For a goof I just tried parallels with their trial option.
Talk about less than useless.  Completely and utterly inaccessible.  I was
hopeful that over all this time things had improved but no such luck.



On Nov 17, 2016, at 5:07 PM, E.T.  wrote:

Scott,
 I do not remember what version of Fusion I started with. I do not think
the force grab function was brought over to version 8. It used to be on
the Virtual Machine menu. I looked at version 8 release notes and found
nothing.

 If we can find out what replaces the force grab, we might have solved
it.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 1:06 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

It does and I’ll do some googling on the command g feature, maybe I can
shed some light on this by playing with it more myself.

Thanks as always ET.

And good comments from Janina this might be worth some communication
with VMWare once I’m more confident it’s not the user behind my keyboard
that’s the problem.:)


On Nov 17, 2016, at 4:03 PM, E.T.  wrote:

Scott,
Ok here is what I think would be worth studying. I was just in my VM
and my frustration level is still a bit high so will not run it again
for now.

Seems Command-G was on the menu when I first started using VMware. Its
no longer there yet it seems to still work. I want to play with this a
lot more though and confirm some suspicions. Its supposed to grab the
heyboard away from the Mac.

This may not work any more as lately I have found just pressing a
wrong key or too long throws things around and I have trouble getting
focused on the VM again.

So perhaps Command-G really is not used any more. When I run the VM in
full screen I am not interested in switching between Mac and Windows.
Yet I want access to the menu bar. I have disabled the VM toolbar and
mini bar. I think I have conflicts here though by inadvertently
pressing Mac keystrokes.

Did this make sense?

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 12:42 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

I misspoke I meant command G not control G.  Command G doesn’t seem to
do anything for me, maybe I’m using it at the wrong time, not sure.


On Nov 17, 2016, at 2:01 PM, E.T.  wrote:

Scott,
I do not see that command in my list of shortcuts. When I load my VM
and wait long enough to let Windows fully load. I press Cmd-G to grab
the keyboard and then Cmd-Ctrl-F to enter full screen.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 10:45 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

Hi, I wanted to confirm this.

When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to
allow me to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk
sound when I press this combo and nothing happens.  In most cases,
in full screen mode I can’t enter the VM and in zoom reduced mode I
can but by tabbing past the snapshots button I will drop in to the
vm.  Is there a more simple mechanism, do I have the keystroke
wrong?  Any pointers would be most appreciated.

Thank you



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Re: control alt delete and VM Fusion

2016-11-18 Thread Garry Turkington
Have you looked at the Fusion keyboard options to see if some of the
default options are causing problems? I don't see  the sort of issues
you describe.

One example - in Preferences->Keyboard and Mouse->Mac Host Shortcuts
there's a bunch of default key combos that will be sent to OS X and
not the guest VM. I disabled most of these for a happier life.

Also the out-of-the-box key mapping  will map the  ctrl and alt keys
to ctrl and option on the Mac keyboard, i.e. the VO keys. I set option
to map to the windows  key and command to alt to avoid this issue. If
you have VO running while in the VM this will be a pain otherwise.

Garry

On 11/18/16, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah, I do that but it can be quite PITA.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jonathan Cohn
>
>
>
>> On Nov 18, 2016, at 8:44 AM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Can’t you pass control alt delete and other control alt combinations by
>> picking them from the list under the virtual machine section of the menu
>> bar.  Below restart and shutdown there’s a list of commands you can send.
>>
>> Just a possible suggestion all be it a pain.
>>
>>> On Nov 18, 2016, at 8:40 AM, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com
>>> <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I generally have VM fusion working fairly well, but keystrokes that
>>> involve control-alt are never very consistent. Sometimes when I use
>>> command-G it works but what is very strange in my view is that sometimes
>>> I have to turn numpad commander on and then control-alt and a numpad key
>>> work fine (table navigation in JAWS and delete commands) at other times I
>>> can't get any key combination that includes control -alt to be passed to
>>> my VM. I am thinking of migrating my vm that contains development
>>> environments into a bootcamp partition, but then I expect I'll have to
>>> re-license quite a few things.
>>>
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>>> to be exclusively dedicated to the VM are there any official notes on
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Re: control alt delete and VM Fusion

2016-11-18 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Yeah, I do that but it can be quite PITA.

Thanks!

Jonathan Cohn 



> On Nov 18, 2016, at 8:44 AM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Can’t you pass control alt delete and other control alt combinations by 
> picking them from the list under the virtual machine section of the menu bar. 
>  Below restart and shutdown there’s a list of commands you can send.
> 
> Just a possible suggestion all be it a pain.
> 
>> On Nov 18, 2016, at 8:40 AM, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I generally have VM fusion working fairly well, but keystrokes that involve 
>> control-alt are never very consistent. Sometimes when I use command-G it 
>> works but what is very strange in my view is that sometimes I have to turn 
>> numpad commander on and then control-alt and a numpad key work fine (table 
>> navigation in JAWS and delete commands) at other times I can't get any key 
>> combination that includes control -alt to be passed to my VM. I am thinking 
>> of migrating my vm that contains development environments into a bootcamp 
>> partition, but then I expect I'll have to re-license quite a few things. 
>> 
>> I also seem to remember some discussion of forcing an external keyboard to 
>> be exclusively dedicated to the VM are there any official notes on this 
>> perhaps? I wouldn't mind just switching keyboards to switch OS on my system.
>> 
>>  
>>  Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: control alt delete and VM Fusion

2016-11-18 Thread Scott Granados
Can’t you pass control alt delete and other control alt combinations by picking 
them from the list under the virtual machine section of the menu bar.  Below 
restart and shutdown there’s a list of commands you can send.

Just a possible suggestion all be it a pain.

> On Nov 18, 2016, at 8:40 AM, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I generally have VM fusion working fairly well, but keystrokes that involve 
> control-alt are never very consistent. Sometimes when I use command-G it 
> works but what is very strange in my view is that sometimes I have to turn 
> numpad commander on and then control-alt and a numpad key work fine (table 
> navigation in JAWS and delete commands) at other times I can't get any key 
> combination that includes control -alt to be passed to my VM. I am thinking 
> of migrating my vm that contains development environments into a bootcamp 
> partition, but then I expect I'll have to re-license quite a few things. 
> 
> I also seem to remember some discussion of forcing an external keyboard to be 
> exclusively dedicated to the VM are there any official notes on this perhaps? 
> I wouldn't mind just switching keyboards to switch OS on my system.
> 
>  
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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control alt delete and VM Fusion

2016-11-18 Thread Jonathan Cohn
I generally have VM fusion working fairly well, but keystrokes that involve 
control-alt are never very consistent. Sometimes when I use command-G it works 
but what is very strange in my view is that sometimes I have to turn numpad 
commander on and then control-alt and a numpad key work fine (table navigation 
in JAWS and delete commands) at other times I can't get any key combination 
that includes control -alt to be passed to my VM. I am thinking of migrating my 
vm that contains development environments into a bootcamp partition, but then I 
expect I'll have to re-license quite a few things. 

I also seem to remember some discussion of forcing an external keyboard to be 
exclusively dedicated to the VM are there any official notes on this perhaps? I 
wouldn't mind just switching keyboards to switch OS on my system.

 
Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn 




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Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

2016-11-18 Thread Scott Granados
This is what I do as well. Also, I think it was Chris Moore who pointed me at 
the command control f to go full screen which is working.  Big thanks to 
everyone for the suggestions.

> On Nov 18, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Garry Turkington  wrote:
> 
> I use Fusion with multiple VMs every day and I don't have an issue
> reliably getting input captured by the VM.
> 
> What I do is use VO to move right along the buttons on the VM
> interface. After the "full screen" button I get the name of the VM
> read out and when focus is on that any keystrokes go to the VM which
> then captures input. I use this method on both Windows and Linux VMs.
> 
> This is on the latest version of Fusion though still on El Kapitan
> because I don't have time to work out the whole Seil/Caribener thing
> in Sierra yet.
> 
> Garry
> 
> On 11/18/16, E.T.  wrote:
>>I ran VM a bit ago and this time I did not execute command-g. I did
>> not do a lot but found things worked just fine. Will need to do more
>> experimenting.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>   Without H2O there is no life!
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 11/17/2016 4:07 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> Very good.  For a goof I just tried parallels with their trial option.
>>> Talk about less than useless.  Completely and utterly inaccessible.  I was
>>> hopeful that over all this time things had improved but no such luck.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Nov 17, 2016, at 5:07 PM, E.T.  wrote:
 
 Scott,
  I do not remember what version of Fusion I started with. I do not think
 the force grab function was brought over to version 8. It used to be on
 the Virtual Machine menu. I looked at version 8 release notes and found
 nothing.
 
  If we can find out what replaces the force grab, we might have solved
 it.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Without H2O there is no life!
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
 On 11/17/2016 1:06 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> It does and I’ll do some googling on the command g feature, maybe I can
> shed some light on this by playing with it more myself.
> 
> Thanks as always ET.
> 
> And good comments from Janina this might be worth some communication
> with VMWare once I’m more confident it’s not the user behind my keyboard
> that’s the problem.:)
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 4:03 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>> Scott,
>> Ok here is what I think would be worth studying. I was just in my VM
>> and my frustration level is still a bit high so will not run it again
>> for now.
>> 
>> Seems Command-G was on the menu when I first started using VMware. Its
>> no longer there yet it seems to still work. I want to play with this a
>> lot more though and confirm some suspicions. Its supposed to grab the
>> heyboard away from the Mac.
>> 
>> This may not work any more as lately I have found just pressing a
>> wrong key or too long throws things around and I have trouble getting
>> focused on the VM again.
>> 
>> So perhaps Command-G really is not used any more. When I run the VM in
>> full screen I am not interested in switching between Mac and Windows.
>> Yet I want access to the menu bar. I have disabled the VM toolbar and
>> mini bar. I think I have conflicts here though by inadvertently
>> pressing Mac keystrokes.
>> 
>> Did this make sense?
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> Without H2O there is no life!
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 11/17/2016 12:42 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> I misspoke I meant command G not control G.  Command G doesn’t seem to
>>> do anything for me, maybe I’m using it at the wrong time, not sure.
>>> 
 On Nov 17, 2016, at 2:01 PM, E.T.  wrote:
 
 Scott,
 I do not see that command in my list of shortcuts. When I load my VM
 and wait long enough to let Windows fully load. I press Cmd-G to grab
 the keyboard and then Cmd-Ctrl-F to enter full screen.
 
 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Without H2O there is no life!
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
 On 11/17/2016 10:45 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> Hi, I wanted to confirm this.
> 
> When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to
> allow me to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk
> sound when I press this combo and nothing happens.  In most cases,
> in full screen mode I can’t enter the VM and in zoom reduced mode I
> can but by tabbing past the snapshots button I will drop in to the
> vm.  Is there a more simple mechanism, do I have the keystroke
> wrong?  Any pointers would be most appreciated.
> 
> Thank you
> 
 
 --
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Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

2016-11-18 Thread Garry Turkington
I use Fusion with multiple VMs every day and I don't have an issue
reliably getting input captured by the VM.

What I do is use VO to move right along the buttons on the VM
interface. After the "full screen" button I get the name of the VM
read out and when focus is on that any keystrokes go to the VM which
then captures input. I use this method on both Windows and Linux VMs.

This is on the latest version of Fusion though still on El Kapitan
because I don't have time to work out the whole Seil/Caribener thing
in Sierra yet.

Garry

On 11/18/16, E.T.  wrote:
> I ran VM a bit ago and this time I did not execute command-g. I did
> not do a lot but found things worked just fine. Will need to do more
> experimenting.
>
>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>
> On 11/17/2016 4:07 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> Very good.  For a goof I just tried parallels with their trial option.
>> Talk about less than useless.  Completely and utterly inaccessible.  I was
>> hopeful that over all this time things had improved but no such luck.
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 5:07 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>>
>>> Scott,
>>>   I do not remember what version of Fusion I started with. I do not think
>>> the force grab function was brought over to version 8. It used to be on
>>> the Virtual Machine menu. I looked at version 8 release notes and found
>>> nothing.
>>>
>>>   If we can find out what replaces the force grab, we might have solved
>>> it.
>>>
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>  Without H2O there is no life!
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>
>>> On 11/17/2016 1:06 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 It does and I’ll do some googling on the command g feature, maybe I can
 shed some light on this by playing with it more myself.

 Thanks as always ET.

 And good comments from Janina this might be worth some communication
 with VMWare once I’m more confident it’s not the user behind my keyboard
 that’s the problem.:)

> On Nov 17, 2016, at 4:03 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>
> Scott,
>  Ok here is what I think would be worth studying. I was just in my VM
> and my frustration level is still a bit high so will not run it again
> for now.
>
>  Seems Command-G was on the menu when I first started using VMware. Its
> no longer there yet it seems to still work. I want to play with this a
> lot more though and confirm some suspicions. Its supposed to grab the
> heyboard away from the Mac.
>
>  This may not work any more as lately I have found just pressing a
> wrong key or too long throws things around and I have trouble getting
> focused on the VM again.
>
>  So perhaps Command-G really is not used any more. When I run the VM in
> full screen I am not interested in switching between Mac and Windows.
> Yet I want access to the menu bar. I have disabled the VM toolbar and
> mini bar. I think I have conflicts here though by inadvertently
> pressing Mac keystrokes.
>
>  Did this make sense?
>
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>
> On 11/17/2016 12:42 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> I misspoke I meant command G not control G.  Command G doesn’t seem to
>> do anything for me, maybe I’m using it at the wrong time, not sure.
>>
>>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 2:01 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>>
>>> Scott,
>>> I do not see that command in my list of shortcuts. When I load my VM
>>> and wait long enough to let Windows fully load. I press Cmd-G to grab
>>> the keyboard and then Cmd-Ctrl-F to enter full screen.
>>>
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Without H2O there is no life!
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>
>>> On 11/17/2016 10:45 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 Hi, I wanted to confirm this.

 When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to
 allow me to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk
 sound when I press this combo and nothing happens.  In most cases,
 in full screen mode I can’t enter the VM and in zoom reduced mode I
 can but by tabbing past the snapshots button I will drop in to the
 vm.  Is there a more simple mechanism, do I have the keystroke
 wrong?  Any pointers would be most appreciated.

 Thank you

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Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

2016-11-17 Thread E.T.
   I ran VM a bit ago and this time I did not execute command-g. I did 
not do a lot but found things worked just fine. Will need to do more 
experimenting.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 4:07 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

Very good.  For a goof I just tried parallels with their trial option.  Talk 
about less than useless.  Completely and utterly inaccessible.  I was hopeful 
that over all this time things had improved but no such luck.



On Nov 17, 2016, at 5:07 PM, E.T.  wrote:

Scott,
  I do not remember what version of Fusion I started with. I do not think the 
force grab function was brought over to version 8. It used to be on the Virtual 
Machine menu. I looked at version 8 release notes and found nothing.

  If we can find out what replaces the force grab, we might have solved it.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 1:06 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

It does and I’ll do some googling on the command g feature, maybe I can shed 
some light on this by playing with it more myself.

Thanks as always ET.

And good comments from Janina this might be worth some communication with 
VMWare once I’m more confident it’s not the user behind my keyboard that’s the 
problem.:)


On Nov 17, 2016, at 4:03 PM, E.T.  wrote:

Scott,
 Ok here is what I think would be worth studying. I was just in my VM and my 
frustration level is still a bit high so will not run it again for now.

 Seems Command-G was on the menu when I first started using VMware. Its no 
longer there yet it seems to still work. I want to play with this a lot more 
though and confirm some suspicions. Its supposed to grab the heyboard away from 
the Mac.

 This may not work any more as lately I have found just pressing a wrong key or 
too long throws things around and I have trouble getting focused on the VM 
again.

 So perhaps Command-G really is not used any more. When I run the VM in full 
screen I am not interested in switching between Mac and Windows. Yet I want 
access to the menu bar. I have disabled the VM toolbar and mini bar. I think I 
have conflicts here though by inadvertently pressing Mac keystrokes.

 Did this make sense?

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 12:42 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

I misspoke I meant command G not control G.  Command G doesn’t seem to do 
anything for me, maybe I’m using it at the wrong time, not sure.


On Nov 17, 2016, at 2:01 PM, E.T.  wrote:

Scott,
I do not see that command in my list of shortcuts. When I load my VM and wait 
long enough to let Windows fully load. I press Cmd-G to grab the keyboard and 
then Cmd-Ctrl-F to enter full screen.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 10:45 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

Hi, I wanted to confirm this.

When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to allow me 
to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk sound when I press this 
combo and nothing happens.  In most cases, in full screen mode I can’t enter 
the VM and in zoom reduced mode I can but by tabbing past the snapshots button 
I will drop in to the vm.  Is there a more simple mechanism, do I have the 
keystroke wrong?  Any pointers would be most appreciated.

Thank you



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Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

2016-11-17 Thread Scott Granados
Very good.  For a goof I just tried parallels with their trial option.  Talk 
about less than useless.  Completely and utterly inaccessible.  I was hopeful 
that over all this time things had improved but no such luck.
 

> On Nov 17, 2016, at 5:07 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Scott,
>   I do not remember what version of Fusion I started with. I do not think the 
> force grab function was brought over to version 8. It used to be on the 
> Virtual Machine menu. I looked at version 8 release notes and found nothing.
> 
>   If we can find out what replaces the force grab, we might have solved it.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 11/17/2016 1:06 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> It does and I’ll do some googling on the command g feature, maybe I can shed 
>> some light on this by playing with it more myself.
>> 
>> Thanks as always ET.
>> 
>> And good comments from Janina this might be worth some communication with 
>> VMWare once I’m more confident it’s not the user behind my keyboard that’s 
>> the problem.:)
>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 4:03 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Scott,
>>>  Ok here is what I think would be worth studying. I was just in my VM and 
>>> my frustration level is still a bit high so will not run it again for now.
>>> 
>>>  Seems Command-G was on the menu when I first started using VMware. Its no 
>>> longer there yet it seems to still work. I want to play with this a lot 
>>> more though and confirm some suspicions. Its supposed to grab the heyboard 
>>> away from the Mac.
>>> 
>>>  This may not work any more as lately I have found just pressing a wrong 
>>> key or too long throws things around and I have trouble getting focused on 
>>> the VM again.
>>> 
>>>  So perhaps Command-G really is not used any more. When I run the VM in 
>>> full screen I am not interested in switching between Mac and Windows. Yet I 
>>> want access to the menu bar. I have disabled the VM toolbar and mini bar. I 
>>> think I have conflicts here though by inadvertently pressing Mac keystrokes.
>>> 
>>>  Did this make sense?
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Without H2O there is no life!
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 11/17/2016 12:42 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
 I misspoke I meant command G not control G.  Command G doesn’t seem to do 
 anything for me, maybe I’m using it at the wrong time, not sure.
 
> On Nov 17, 2016, at 2:01 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Scott,
> I do not see that command in my list of shortcuts. When I load my VM and 
> wait long enough to let Windows fully load. I press Cmd-G to grab the 
> keyboard and then Cmd-Ctrl-F to enter full screen.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 11/17/2016 10:45 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> Hi, I wanted to confirm this.
>> 
>> When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to 
>> allow me to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk sound 
>> when I press this combo and nothing happens.  In most cases, in full 
>> screen mode I can’t enter the VM and in zoom reduced mode I can but by 
>> tabbing past the snapshots button I will drop in to the vm.  Is there a 
>> more simple mechanism, do I have the keystroke wrong?  Any pointers 
>> would be most appreciated.
>> 
>> Thank you
>> 
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Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

2016-11-17 Thread E.T.

Scott,
   I do not remember what version of Fusion I started with. I do not 
think the force grab function was brought over to version 8. It used to 
be on the Virtual Machine menu. I looked at version 8 release notes and 
found nothing.


   If we can find out what replaces the force grab, we might have 
solved it.


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On 11/17/2016 1:06 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

It does and I’ll do some googling on the command g feature, maybe I can shed 
some light on this by playing with it more myself.

Thanks as always ET.

And good comments from Janina this might be worth some communication with 
VMWare once I’m more confident it’s not the user behind my keyboard that’s the 
problem.:)


On Nov 17, 2016, at 4:03 PM, E.T.  wrote:

Scott,
  Ok here is what I think would be worth studying. I was just in my VM and my 
frustration level is still a bit high so will not run it again for now.

  Seems Command-G was on the menu when I first started using VMware. Its no 
longer there yet it seems to still work. I want to play with this a lot more 
though and confirm some suspicions. Its supposed to grab the heyboard away from 
the Mac.

  This may not work any more as lately I have found just pressing a wrong key 
or too long throws things around and I have trouble getting focused on the VM 
again.

  So perhaps Command-G really is not used any more. When I run the VM in full 
screen I am not interested in switching between Mac and Windows. Yet I want 
access to the menu bar. I have disabled the VM toolbar and mini bar. I think I 
have conflicts here though by inadvertently pressing Mac keystrokes.

  Did this make sense?

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 Without H2O there is no life!
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On 11/17/2016 12:42 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

I misspoke I meant command G not control G.  Command G doesn’t seem to do 
anything for me, maybe I’m using it at the wrong time, not sure.


On Nov 17, 2016, at 2:01 PM, E.T.  wrote:

Scott,
 I do not see that command in my list of shortcuts. When I load my VM and wait 
long enough to let Windows fully load. I press Cmd-G to grab the keyboard and 
then Cmd-Ctrl-F to enter full screen.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 10:45 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

Hi, I wanted to confirm this.

When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to allow me 
to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk sound when I press this 
combo and nothing happens.  In most cases, in full screen mode I can’t enter 
the VM and in zoom reduced mode I can but by tabbing past the snapshots button 
I will drop in to the vm.  Is there a more simple mechanism, do I have the 
keystroke wrong?  Any pointers would be most appreciated.

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Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

2016-11-17 Thread E.T.

Scott,
   Ok here is what I think would be worth studying. I was just in my VM 
and my frustration level is still a bit high so will not run it again 
for now.


   Seems Command-G was on the menu when I first started using VMware. 
Its no longer there yet it seems to still work. I want to play with this 
a lot more though and confirm some suspicions. Its supposed to grab the 
heyboard away from the Mac.


   This may not work any more as lately I have found just pressing a 
wrong key or too long throws things around and I have trouble getting 
focused on the VM again.


   So perhaps Command-G really is not used any more. When I run the VM 
in full screen I am not interested in switching between Mac and Windows. 
Yet I want access to the menu bar. I have disabled the VM toolbar and 
mini bar. I think I have conflicts here though by inadvertently pressing 
Mac keystrokes.


   Did this make sense?

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On 11/17/2016 12:42 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

I misspoke I meant command G not control G.  Command G doesn’t seem to do 
anything for me, maybe I’m using it at the wrong time, not sure.


On Nov 17, 2016, at 2:01 PM, E.T.  wrote:

Scott,
  I do not see that command in my list of shortcuts. When I load my VM and wait 
long enough to let Windows fully load. I press Cmd-G to grab the keyboard and 
then Cmd-Ctrl-F to enter full screen.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Without H2O there is no life!
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 11/17/2016 10:45 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

Hi, I wanted to confirm this.

When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to allow me 
to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk sound when I press this 
combo and nothing happens.  In most cases, in full screen mode I can’t enter 
the VM and in zoom reduced mode I can but by tabbing past the snapshots button 
I will drop in to the vm.  Is there a more simple mechanism, do I have the 
keystroke wrong?  Any pointers would be most appreciated.

Thank you



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Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

2016-11-17 Thread Scott Granados
It does and I’ll do some googling on the command g feature, maybe I can shed 
some light on this by playing with it more myself.

Thanks as always ET.

And good comments from Janina this might be worth some communication with 
VMWare once I’m more confident it’s not the user behind my keyboard that’s the 
problem.:)

> On Nov 17, 2016, at 4:03 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Scott,
>   Ok here is what I think would be worth studying. I was just in my VM and my 
> frustration level is still a bit high so will not run it again for now.
> 
>   Seems Command-G was on the menu when I first started using VMware. Its no 
> longer there yet it seems to still work. I want to play with this a lot more 
> though and confirm some suspicions. Its supposed to grab the heyboard away 
> from the Mac.
> 
>   This may not work any more as lately I have found just pressing a wrong key 
> or too long throws things around and I have trouble getting focused on the VM 
> again.
> 
>   So perhaps Command-G really is not used any more. When I run the VM in full 
> screen I am not interested in switching between Mac and Windows. Yet I want 
> access to the menu bar. I have disabled the VM toolbar and mini bar. I think 
> I have conflicts here though by inadvertently pressing Mac keystrokes.
> 
>   Did this make sense?
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 11/17/2016 12:42 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> I misspoke I meant command G not control G.  Command G doesn’t seem to do 
>> anything for me, maybe I’m using it at the wrong time, not sure.
>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 2:01 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Scott,
>>>  I do not see that command in my list of shortcuts. When I load my VM and 
>>> wait long enough to let Windows fully load. I press Cmd-G to grab the 
>>> keyboard and then Cmd-Ctrl-F to enter full screen.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Without H2O there is no life!
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>> On 11/17/2016 10:45 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
 Hi, I wanted to confirm this.
 
 When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to allow 
 me to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk sound when I 
 press this combo and nothing happens.  In most cases, in full screen mode 
 I can’t enter the VM and in zoom reduced mode I can but by tabbing past 
 the snapshots button I will drop in to the vm.  Is there a more simple 
 mechanism, do I have the keystroke wrong?  Any pointers would be most 
 appreciated.
 
 Thank you
 
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Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

2016-11-17 Thread Scott Granados
I misspoke I meant command G not control G.  Command G doesn’t seem to do 
anything for me, maybe I’m using it at the wrong time, not sure.

> On Nov 17, 2016, at 2:01 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
> Scott,
>   I do not see that command in my list of shortcuts. When I load my VM and 
> wait long enough to let Windows fully load. I press Cmd-G to grab the 
> keyboard and then Cmd-Ctrl-F to enter full screen.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Without H2O there is no life!
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 11/17/2016 10:45 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> Hi, I wanted to confirm this.
>> 
>> When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to allow 
>> me to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk sound when I press 
>> this combo and nothing happens.  In most cases, in full screen mode I can’t 
>> enter the VM and in zoom reduced mode I can but by tabbing past the 
>> snapshots button I will drop in to the vm.  Is there a more simple 
>> mechanism, do I have the keystroke wrong?  Any pointers would be most 
>> appreciated.
>> 
>> Thank you
>> 
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Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

2016-11-17 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
I have never found a reliable way to get into and outof the guest vm.
For me this is a significant frustration.
To
my mind this functionality is a feature we should demand of VMware. I'm
not sure where to file the RFE, but if someone knows or posts one,
please share so that others of us can add our support for the request.

Janina

Chris Moore writes:
> ScottI don’t know about control + g.  What sometimes helps is to switch to 
> full screen mode with cmd + control + f.  Then turn it off with the same 
> keystroke.  I also tend to disable voiceover once I am safely in the VM with 
> cmd + control followed by cmd + f5.
> 
> HTH
> Chris
> > On Nov 17, 2016, at 1:45 PM, Scott Granados  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Hi, I wanted to confirm this.
> > 
> > When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to allow 
> > me to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk sound when I 
> > press this combo and nothing happens.  In most cases, in full screen mode I 
> > can’t enter the VM and in zoom reduced mode I can but by tabbing past the 
> > snapshots button I will drop in to the vm.  Is there a more simple 
> > mechanism, do I have the keystroke wrong?  Any pointers would be most 
> > appreciated.
> > 
> > Thank you
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Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

2016-11-17 Thread E.T.

Scott,
   I do not see that command in my list of shortcuts. When I load my VM 
and wait long enough to let Windows fully load. I press Cmd-G to grab 
the keyboard and then Cmd-Ctrl-F to enter full screen.


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On 11/17/2016 10:45 AM, Scott Granados wrote:

Hi, I wanted to confirm this.

When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to allow me 
to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk sound when I press this 
combo and nothing happens.  In most cases, in full screen mode I can’t enter 
the VM and in zoom reduced mode I can but by tabbing past the snapshots button 
I will drop in to the vm.  Is there a more simple mechanism, do I have the 
keystroke wrong?  Any pointers would be most appreciated.

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Re: The control-G vm fusion question again

2016-11-17 Thread Chris Moore
ScottI don’t know about control + g.  What sometimes helps is to switch to full 
screen mode with cmd + control + f.  Then turn it off with the same keystroke.  
I also tend to disable voiceover once I am safely in the VM with cmd + control 
followed by cmd + f5.

HTH
Chris
> On Nov 17, 2016, at 1:45 PM, Scott Granados  wrote:
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> Hi, I wanted to confirm this.
> 
> When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to allow me 
> to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk sound when I press 
> this combo and nothing happens.  In most cases, in full screen mode I can’t 
> enter the VM and in zoom reduced mode I can but by tabbing past the snapshots 
> button I will drop in to the vm.  Is there a more simple mechanism, do I have 
> the keystroke wrong?  Any pointers would be most appreciated.
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The control-G vm fusion question again

2016-11-17 Thread Scott Granados
Hi, I wanted to confirm this.

When I run fusion and boot a VM, is it control-G that is supposed to allow me 
to gain access to the vm interface?  I just get a bonk sound when I press this 
combo and nothing happens.  In most cases, in full screen mode I can’t enter 
the VM and in zoom reduced mode I can but by tabbing past the snapshots button 
I will drop in to the vm.  Is there a more simple mechanism, do I have the 
keystroke wrong?  Any pointers would be most appreciated.

Thank you

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Re: Update for VM Fusion available

2016-10-29 Thread Scott Granados
Hi Simon,

Yes, Sierra 10.12.1 is specifically mentioned in the OS list.

> On Oct 29, 2016, at 2:00 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
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> Hey Scott,
> 
> Is this the fusion version that allows you to run mac OS VM's ?
> 
> 
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> Subject: Update for VM Fusion available
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> My VM Fusion just alerted me to an update being available.  The 8.5.1 update 
> is a free update and installed smoothly.  update em if you got em.
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RE: Update for VM Fusion available

2016-10-29 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hey Scott,

 Is this the fusion version that allows you to run mac OS VM's ?



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Subject: Update for VM Fusion available

My VM Fusion just alerted me to an update being available.  The 8.5.1 update is 
a free update and installed smoothly.  update em if you got em.

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Update for VM Fusion available

2016-10-28 Thread Scott Granados
My VM Fusion just alerted me to an update being available.  The 8.5.1 update is 
a free update and installed smoothly.  update em if you got em.

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VM Fusion and Windows 10

2016-09-29 Thread Brian Fischler
Hey all,

finally got around to installing Fusion and the Windows 10 Special Edition so I 
could check out Windows Narrator, and I am curious as the Narrator speech was 
working fine yesterday but today it is so unbelievably choppy and cutting out 
that it is unusable. Any clue what might be the cause of this? Thanks,

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Re: I hate Microsoft, VM fusion installation fails

2016-08-13 Thread Scott Granados
+1, I’m so happy I’m using a Mac.

So when I run fusion I never even get the easy install options like you do with 
windows 7 or 8.  You get dumped right to finished after you set the OS and 
version, there’s no place to enter the key in the setup through fusion.

I’ll have to try with eyeballs and see what happens.

I fired up a windows 7 pro instance the other day on this new Macbook pro with 
the large SSD and it was blazingly fast on the install.  Fusion 8.11 is so good 
on a quad core.

> On Aug 13, 2016, at 11:49 AM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote:
> 
> Windows 10 has some odd quirks. With the software I do tech support for, on 
> some windows 10 systems, we have to install it a section at a time or it will 
> not work. If the fusion install does not work, this would probably prevent 
> you from being able to install it without sighted help as you could with 
> previous windows versions. I'm reminded why I left the Windows world entirely 
> for my home computers, far too many problems. Give me the Mac any day.
>> On Aug 13, 2016, at 4:30 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah,
>> 
>> If I remember correctly,
>> I removed the installation and started again but usig a different version of 
>> windows 10,
>> 
>> The benefits of havinga MSDN licence.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>> Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2016 12:51 PM
>> To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: I hate Microsoft, VM fusion installation fails
>> 
>> So starting to play with windows again I remembered one reason I hate 
>> microsoft so much.
>> 
>> I’m installing a new instance of windows 10, put in my key, start the 
>> process, download the updates and after a while I get a very descriptive 
>> helpful error.  It says “your installation of windows 10 has failed, click 
>> ok”
>> 
>> That’s so helpful in diagnosing the problem.
>> 
>> Has anyone else seen this and made heads or tails out of it?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Scott
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Re: I hate Microsoft, VM fusion installation fails

2016-08-13 Thread Mike Arrigo
Windows 10 has some odd quirks. With the software I do tech support for, on 
some windows 10 systems, we have to install it a section at a time or it will 
not work. If the fusion install does not work, this would probably prevent you 
from being able to install it without sighted help as you could with previous 
windows versions. I'm reminded why I left the Windows world entirely for my 
home computers, far too many problems. Give me the Mac any day.
> On Aug 13, 2016, at 4:30 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Yeah,
> 
> If I remember correctly,
> I removed the installation and started again but usig a different version of 
> windows 10,
> 
> The benefits of havinga MSDN licence.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Saturday, 13 August 2016 12:51 PM
> To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: I hate Microsoft, VM fusion installation fails
> 
> So starting to play with windows again I remembered one reason I hate 
> microsoft so much.
> 
> I’m installing a new instance of windows 10, put in my key, start the 
> process, download the updates and after a while I get a very descriptive 
> helpful error.  It says “your installation of windows 10 has failed, click ok”
> 
> That’s so helpful in diagnosing the problem.
> 
> Has anyone else seen this and made heads or tails out of it?
> 
> Thanks
> Scott
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RE: I hate Microsoft, VM fusion installation fails

2016-08-13 Thread Simon Fogarty
Yeah,

 If I remember correctly,
I removed the installation and started again but usig a different version of 
windows 10,

The benefits of havinga MSDN licence.

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To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: I hate Microsoft, VM fusion installation fails

So starting to play with windows again I remembered one reason I hate microsoft 
so much.

I’m installing a new instance of windows 10, put in my key, start the process, 
download the updates and after a while I get a very descriptive helpful error.  
It says “your installation of windows 10 has failed, click ok”

That’s so helpful in diagnosing the problem.

Has anyone else seen this and made heads or tails out of it?

Thanks
Scott

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Re: I hate Microsoft, VM fusion installation fails

2016-08-12 Thread Scott Granados
I’m just frustrated with the general non helpfulness of the error message.  But 
yes, I’m with you this sounds like the best plan.

At least I got past the license key though.:)

Thanks btw for your tips and thanks to everyone else as well.

> On Aug 12, 2016, at 10:13 PM, Grant  wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> I’ve never seen that error message before. I would recommend starting with 
> fresh installation media (i.e. re-download the ISO file) and a freshly 
> created virtual machine.
> 
> Again, what you’re describing definitely doesn’t sound normal.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Grant
> 
>> On Friday August 12, 2016, at 5:51:09 PM, Scott Granados 
>> > wrote:
>> 
>> So starting to play with windows again I remembered one reason I hate 
>> microsoft so much.
>> 
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>> process, download the updates and after a while I get a very descriptive 
>> helpful error.  It says “your installation of windows 10 has failed, click 
>> ok”
>> 
>> That’s so helpful in diagnosing the problem.
>> 
>> Has anyone else seen this and made heads or tails out of it?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Scott
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Re: I hate Microsoft, VM fusion installation fails

2016-08-12 Thread Grant
Hi Scott,

I’ve never seen that error message before. I would recommend starting with 
fresh installation media (i.e. re-download the ISO file) and a freshly created 
virtual machine.

Again, what you’re describing definitely doesn’t sound normal.

Thanks,

Grant

> On Friday August 12, 2016, at 5:51:09 PM, Scott Granados 
>  wrote:
> 
> So starting to play with windows again I remembered one reason I hate 
> microsoft so much.
> 
> I’m installing a new instance of windows 10, put in my key, start the 
> process, download the updates and after a while I get a very descriptive 
> helpful error.  It says “your installation of windows 10 has failed, click ok”
> 
> That’s so helpful in diagnosing the problem.
> 
> Has anyone else seen this and made heads or tails out of it?
> 
> Thanks
> Scott
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I hate Microsoft, VM fusion installation fails

2016-08-12 Thread Scott Granados
So starting to play with windows again I remembered one reason I hate microsoft 
so much.

I’m installing a new instance of windows 10, put in my key, start the process, 
download the updates and after a while I get a very descriptive helpful error.  
It says “your installation of windows 10 has failed, click ok”

That’s so helpful in diagnosing the problem.

Has anyone else seen this and made heads or tails out of it?

Thanks
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Re: WebEx versus the Mac and VM fusion

2016-06-24 Thread Scott Granados
Sure, so are you familiar with go to meeting or team viewer?  The idea is 
similar.  WebEx is a screen sharing communications type environment where you 
can share control and resources over the network.  Usually runs with in a web 
browser.

It’s a Cisco product.


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of si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:

Hi List,

 Can someone explain to me what this web x thing is plese?

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Friday, 24 June 2016 7:08 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: WebEx versus the Mac and VM fusion

Hi,

I've found WebEx on the Mac less than useful.  I was, though, able to make it 
work on my iPhone without much difficulty.  It's been a while since I've used 
it, so won't be good for much help.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 23, 2016, at 13:05, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:

Boy I know this won’t help much but you might try teamviewer instead.  I’ve had 
many issues with webex but teamviewer has always been pretty painless.

Not what you wanted to hear but that’s how I worked around the issue.  The 
vendors I worked with (Juniper and F5) supported both so it wasn’t a problem.  
May be worth a shot.


On 6/23/16, 12:17 PM, "Bill Holton" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com on behalf 
of bill32...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi.
I am trying to get support from VM fusion. They use WebEx. Every time I 
download the plug-in and install it, it says running in background, then I 
cannot find the window to access it. To allow the person to take control. 
Anyone know how I can find this window? I think I've tried about everything, 
even Apple accessibility hotline couldn't figure this one out I am going to 
every application and hit VO F2 twice, it's nowhere to be found, it's not in 
the notifications, and it's nine system messages.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: WebEx versus the Mac and VM fusion

2016-06-24 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

According to Cisco's promo stuff, there's remote capabilities as well.  I've 
not messed with that part at all though.  Thanks for the recommendation about 
Zoom, I'll definitely take a boo.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 24, 2016, at 15:20, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:

Thanks Tim,

Will this allow for desktop remote / assistance or is it just a web / video 
tool?

If you want to see a very accessible web / video tool then have a look at Zoom, 
it's great both on the computer and the IOS platform,

It could still do with work on the computer bt it's working 
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On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Saturday, 25 June 2016 3:21 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: WebEx versus the Mac and VM fusion

hi Simon,

WebEx is a Web and Video Conference solution from Cisco.  From what I recall, 
Cisco has been toying with this market for a while and now is winning awards 
for the WebEx suite of conferencing products.  I know that Apple and Cisco have 
some sort of agreement for WebEx solutions, so I've been getting on a few cases 
about the spotty accessibility of the WebEx desktop product.  My workaround so 
far has been to use the iOS version when connecting.  Honestly though, I 
haven't used it much at all so can't give you a good low-down on it.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 24, 2016, at 03:54, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:

Hi List,

Can someone explain to me what this web x thing is plese?

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Friday, 24 June 2016 7:08 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: WebEx versus the Mac and VM fusion

Hi,

I've found WebEx on the Mac less than useful.  I was, though, able to make it 
work on my iPhone without much difficulty.  It's been a while since I've used 
it, so won't be good for much help.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 23, 2016, at 13:05, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:

Boy I know this won’t help much but you might try teamviewer instead.  I’ve had 
many issues with webex but teamviewer has always been pretty painless.

Not what you wanted to hear but that’s how I worked around the issue.  The 
vendors I worked with (Juniper and F5) supported both so it wasn’t a problem.  
May be worth a shot.


On 6/23/16, 12:17 PM, "Bill Holton" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com on behalf 
of bill32...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi.
I am trying to get support from VM fusion. They use WebEx. Every time I 
download the plug-in and install it, it says running in background, then I 
cannot find the window to access it. To allow the person to take control. 
Anyone know how I can find this window? I think I've tried about everything, 
even Apple accessibility hotline couldn't figure this one out I am going to 
every application and hit VO F2 twice, it's nowhere to be found, it's not in 
the notifications, and it's nine system messages.

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: WebEx versus the Mac and VM fusion

2016-06-24 Thread Simon Fogarty
Thanks Tim,

 Will this allow for desktop remote / assistance or is it just a web / video 
tool?

If you want to see a very accessible web / video tool then have a look at Zoom, 
it's great both on the computer and the IOS platform,

 It could still do with work on the computer bt it's working 
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Saturday, 25 June 2016 3:21 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: WebEx versus the Mac and VM fusion

hi Simon,

WebEx is a Web and Video Conference solution from Cisco.  From what I recall, 
Cisco has been toying with this market for a while and now is winning awards 
for the WebEx suite of conferencing products.  I know that Apple and Cisco have 
some sort of agreement for WebEx solutions, so I've been getting on a few cases 
about the spotty accessibility of the WebEx desktop product.  My workaround so 
far has been to use the iOS version when connecting.  Honestly though, I 
haven't used it much at all so can't give you a good low-down on it.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 24, 2016, at 03:54, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:

Hi List,

Can someone explain to me what this web x thing is plese?

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Friday, 24 June 2016 7:08 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: WebEx versus the Mac and VM fusion

Hi,

I've found WebEx on the Mac less than useful.  I was, though, able to make it 
work on my iPhone without much difficulty.  It's been a while since I've used 
it, so won't be good for much help.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 23, 2016, at 13:05, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:

Boy I know this won’t help much but you might try teamviewer instead.  I’ve had 
many issues with webex but teamviewer has always been pretty painless.

Not what you wanted to hear but that’s how I worked around the issue.  The 
vendors I worked with (Juniper and F5) supported both so it wasn’t a problem.  
May be worth a shot.


On 6/23/16, 12:17 PM, "Bill Holton" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com on behalf 
of bill32...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi.
I am trying to get support from VM fusion. They use WebEx. Every time I 
download the plug-in and install it, it says running in background, then I 
cannot find the window to access it. To allow the person to take control. 
Anyone know how I can find this window? I think I've tried about everything, 
even Apple accessibility hotline couldn't figure this one out I am going to 
every application and hit VO F2 twice, it's nowhere to be found, it's not in 
the notifications, and it's nine system messages.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: WebEx versus the Mac and VM fusion

2016-06-24 Thread Tim Kilburn
hi Simon,

WebEx is a Web and Video Conference solution from Cisco.  From what I recall, 
Cisco has been toying with this market for a while and now is winning awards 
for the WebEx suite of conferencing products.  I know that Apple and Cisco have 
some sort of agreement for WebEx solutions, so I've been getting on a few cases 
about the spotty accessibility of the WebEx desktop product.  My workaround so 
far has been to use the iOS version when connecting.  Honestly though, I 
haven't used it much at all so can't give you a good low-down on it.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 24, 2016, at 03:54, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:

Hi List,

Can someone explain to me what this web x thing is plese?

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Friday, 24 June 2016 7:08 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: WebEx versus the Mac and VM fusion

Hi,

I've found WebEx on the Mac less than useful.  I was, though, able to make it 
work on my iPhone without much difficulty.  It's been a while since I've used 
it, so won't be good for much help.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 23, 2016, at 13:05, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:

Boy I know this won’t help much but you might try teamviewer instead.  I’ve had 
many issues with webex but teamviewer has always been pretty painless.

Not what you wanted to hear but that’s how I worked around the issue.  The 
vendors I worked with (Juniper and F5) supported both so it wasn’t a problem.  
May be worth a shot.


On 6/23/16, 12:17 PM, "Bill Holton" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com on behalf 
of bill32...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi.
I am trying to get support from VM fusion. They use WebEx. Every time I 
download the plug-in and install it, it says running in background, then I 
cannot find the window to access it. To allow the person to take control. 
Anyone know how I can find this window? I think I've tried about everything, 
even Apple accessibility hotline couldn't figure this one out I am going to 
every application and hit VO F2 twice, it's nowhere to be found, it's not in 
the notifications, and it's nine system messages.

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: WebEx versus the Mac and VM fusion

2016-06-24 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hi List,

 Can someone explain to me what this web x thing is plese?

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On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Friday, 24 June 2016 7:08 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: WebEx versus the Mac and VM fusion

Hi,

I've found WebEx on the Mac less than useful.  I was, though, able to make it 
work on my iPhone without much difficulty.  It's been a while since I've used 
it, so won't be good for much help.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 23, 2016, at 13:05, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:

Boy I know this won’t help much but you might try teamviewer instead.  I’ve had 
many issues with webex but teamviewer has always been pretty painless.

Not what you wanted to hear but that’s how I worked around the issue.  The 
vendors I worked with (Juniper and F5) supported both so it wasn’t a problem.  
May be worth a shot.


On 6/23/16, 12:17 PM, "Bill Holton" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com on behalf 
of bill32...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi.
I am trying to get support from VM fusion. They use WebEx. Every time I 
download the plug-in and install it, it says running in background, then I 
cannot find the window to access it. To allow the person to take control. 
Anyone know how I can find this window? I think I've tried about everything, 
even Apple accessibility hotline couldn't figure this one out I am going to 
every application and hit VO F2 twice, it's nowhere to be found, it's not in 
the notifications, and it's nine system messages.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: WebEx versus the Mac and VM fusion

2016-06-23 Thread Bill Holton
Exactly, but VM fusion refuses to use it on their technical support lines 
anymore.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 23, 2016, at 3:05 PM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:
> 
> Boy I know this won’t help much but you might try teamviewer instead.  I’ve 
> had many issues with webex but teamviewer has always been pretty painless.
> 
> Not what you wanted to hear but that’s how I worked around the issue.  The 
> vendors I worked with (Juniper and F5) supported both so it wasn’t a problem. 
>  May be worth a shot.
> 
> 
> On 6/23/16, 12:17 PM, "Bill Holton" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com on 
> behalf of bill32...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi.
> I am trying to get support from VM fusion. They use WebEx. Every time I 
> download the plug-in and install it, it says running in background, then I 
> cannot find the window to access it. To allow the person to take control. 
> Anyone know how I can find this window? I think I've tried about everything, 
> even Apple accessibility hotline couldn't figure this one out I am going to 
> every application and hit VO F2 twice, it's nowhere to be found, it's not in 
> the notifications, and it's nine system messages.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: WebEx versus the Mac and VM fusion

2016-06-23 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi,

I've found WebEx on the Mac less than useful.  I was, though, able to make it 
work on my iPhone without much difficulty.  It's been a while since I've used 
it, so won't be good for much help.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jun 23, 2016, at 13:05, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:

Boy I know this won’t help much but you might try teamviewer instead.  I’ve had 
many issues with webex but teamviewer has always been pretty painless.

Not what you wanted to hear but that’s how I worked around the issue.  The 
vendors I worked with (Juniper and F5) supported both so it wasn’t a problem.  
May be worth a shot.


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of bill32...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi.
I am trying to get support from VM fusion. They use WebEx. Every time I 
download the plug-in and install it, it says running in background, then I 
cannot find the window to access it. To allow the person to take control. 
Anyone know how I can find this window? I think I've tried about everything, 
even Apple accessibility hotline couldn't figure this one out I am going to 
every application and hit VO F2 twice, it's nowhere to be found, it's not in 
the notifications, and it's nine system messages.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: WebEx versus the Mac and VM fusion

2016-06-23 Thread Scott Granados
Boy I know this won’t help much but you might try teamviewer instead.  I’ve had 
many issues with webex but teamviewer has always been pretty painless.

Not what you wanted to hear but that’s how I worked around the issue.  The 
vendors I worked with (Juniper and F5) supported both so it wasn’t a problem.  
May be worth a shot.


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of bill32...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi.
I am trying to get support from VM fusion. They use WebEx. Every time I 
download the plug-in and install it, it says running in background, then I 
cannot find the window to access it. To allow the person to take control. 
Anyone know how I can find this window? I think I've tried about everything, 
even Apple accessibility hotline couldn't figure this one out I am going to 
every application and hit VO F2 twice, it's nowhere to be found, it's not in 
the notifications, and it's nine system messages.

Sent from my iPhone

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WebEx versus the Mac and VM fusion

2016-06-23 Thread Bill Holton
Hi.
I am trying to get support from VM fusion. They use WebEx. Every time I 
download the plug-in and install it, it says running in background, then I 
cannot find the window to access it. To allow the person to take control. 
Anyone know how I can find this window? I think I've tried about everything, 
even Apple accessibility hotline couldn't figure this one out I am going to 
every application and hit VO F2 twice, it's nowhere to be found, it's not in 
the notifications, and it's nine system messages.

Sent from my iPhone

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VM Fusion questions in how to have JAWS in my Mac computer

2016-02-12 Thread Helga Schreiber
Hi all! How are you all?  I herd  that I can use my Windows screen reader with 
my Mac computer with VM fusion. I use JaWS 14 with  running Windows 8.1 on my 
Windows computer. However, I'm interested in JAWS on my Mac so that I can use 
both at the same time. I'm planning on using Windows  and change it to 
Voiceover whenever I needed. I currently have a MacBook Air 11 inches. Is it 
possible to install JAWS on this MacBook Air with VM fusion? Or do I need to 
have a MacBook Pro better for this?? I'm just  wondering. If it is possible to 
do so, can someone walk me through the steps in how to do it? I will really 
appreciate it a lot! I'm still learning how to use the  Mac computer, but I 
will like to have JAWS on it since I'm a Windows and Voiceover user. And  I 
will like to use my Mac as my main computer. I really don't want to carry both 
computers if I need to take  a test or exam at my University.  I look forward 
in hearing from  you soon! Thanks so much and God bless!!

Helga Schreiber 

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Re: VM Fusion questions in how to have JAWS in my Mac computer

2016-02-12 Thread Shaf
I think there's a podcast detailing this on AppleVis if you search
applevis.com
You'd download Fusion, install Windows from an ISO and install JAWS.

On 2/13/2016 6:06 AM, Helga Schreiber wrote:
> Hi all! How are you all?  I herd  that I can use my Windows screen
> reader with my Mac computer with VM fusion. I use JaWS 14 with  running
> Windows 8.1 on my Windows computer. However, I'm interested in JAWS on
> my Mac so that I can use both at the same time. I'm planning on using
> Windows  and change it to Voiceover whenever I needed. I currently have
> a MacBook Air 11 inches. Is it possible to install JAWS on this MacBook
> Air with VM fusion? Or do I need to have a MacBook Pro better for this??
> I'm just  wondering. If it is possible to do so, can someone walk me
> through the steps in how to do it? I will really appreciate it a lot!
> I'm still learning how to use the  Mac computer, but I will like to have
> JAWS on it since I'm a Windows and Voiceover user. And  I will like to
> use my Mac as my main computer. I really don't want to carry both
> computers if I need to take  a test or exam at my University.  I look
> forward in hearing from  you soon! Thanks so much and God bless!!
> 
> Helga Schreiber 
> 
> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of
> Blind Students.
> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
> Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
> Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com <mailto:helga.schreibe...@gmail.com> 
> Skype: helga.schreiber26 
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> <http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx>px 
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Re: requesting help with linux and VM Fusion on mac.

2016-01-19 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Hi, Michael:

Michael Marshall writes:
> what linux do you use?

I've been a Fedora user since the days it was just called Red Hat. At
various times I have also had Debian machines. I currently also have
Arch on an old laptop, and have had a go at installing Arch in a VMware
vm.

> if you use ubuntu how do you cope with the Unity desktop view?
> i am having a play with ubuntu mate at the moment.


Well, this is one key reason why I don't do Ubuntu, though I believe I
briefly had an Ubuntu install about a decade ago.

I suppose knowing which choices to make on Linux is the top challenge
for a blind user. Unlike Microsoft and Apple were there's generally just
one desktop (and one terminal), Linux gives one choices at almost every
turn. There are choices in desktops, but only GNOME, and some of its
variants are accessible. There are also choices in how to manage the
sound environment which have accessibility consequences. Heck, there are
choices in how to manage the TCP/IP stack. Fortunately, the latter set
are generally accessible, whichever you choose, but knowing which
options bear which consequences is important to the level of success
and satisfaction you're likely to experience with Linux.

Myself, personally, I'm fortunate to have the kind of mindset that
prefers the command line to the graphical desktop environment. That's
just how I'm constituted. On Linux that's an advantage because the Linux
console, mediated by the screen terminal app is a perfect environment
for the Speakup screen reader. And, if you're a braille person, which I
am not, you won't find a better braille environment anywhere on any OS
than brltty.

Now, whether this kind of frame of reference would meet your needs is
another matter entirely. There are indeed blind Linux users who don't
bother with the console and simply use Orca on the GNOME desktop (or one
of its variants).

hth

Janina

> > On 19 Jan 2016, at 8:23 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Your Mac uses netbios to share its folders. This is why it's relatively
> > easier to share your host's file system in a Windows VMware guest
> > machine--netbios is natively a Microsoft way of doing such things.
> > 
> > You have two choices for access Mac hosted file systems under Linux
> > virtual machines:
> > 
> > 1.) Install and configure Samba in order to get netbios services
> > under Linux. This is a common application, and apt-get on your Ubuntu
> > machine will know about Samba.
> > 
> > 2.) Find, install and configure a NFS server on your Mac. NFS is the
> > preferred way to mount file systems hosted across a network under Linux,
> > and is easily configured on the Linux side of things. However, it's not
> > common on Mac to share using NFS.
> > 
> > 
> > PS: It's fairly easy to go the other way around with NFS. In other
> > words, it's fairly easy to read NFS exported file systems from a Linux
> > virtual host machine on the Mac host. In my situation I have my Airbook
> > configured to access files from my home office Linux servers using NFS.
> > 
> > The point here is that you're using network technology to mount remote
> > file systems--even though both machines are in the same physical box.
> > The communication between your Mac and your VMware virtual machines is
> > using TCP/IP.
> > 
> > hth
> > 
> > Janina
> > 
> > Michael Marshall writes:
> >> hey all,
> >> yesterday i at last got open VM tools installed on ubuntu mate v 15 so i 
> >> could hopefully share and mirror folders from the mac on my virtual 
> >> machine.
> >> even after installing open VM tools i could not find my shared folders, 
> >> nor could i see anything in any of the folders i wanted to mirror between 
> >> the two machines.
> >> is there something that i'm doing wrong? the installation of open VM tools 
> >> went exactly according to plan but that was as far as i got.
> >> I find this incredibly irritating and i'm out of ideas.
> >> i even tried this on the mane ubuntu distro without any luck.
> >> 
> >> thanks for any help
> >> 
> >> Michael
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Re: requesting help with linux and VM Fusion on mac.

2016-01-19 Thread 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
It's been a while since I did this but OSX has nfsd pre-installed and 
you only need to set it up. From my old notes I think I had to set up my 
exports file in /etc/exports (see man exports). I wanted to backup some 
mysql files from a Centos box to my mac so I had a drive on the Mac 
called Backup and just added


/Volumes/Backup -maproot=cblouch

cblouch was my username on both boxes. I then did an nfsd enable to 
start things up. From the linux side I did something like:


mount network_address_of_my_mac:/Volumes/Backup /root/backmount

where backmount was an existing folder in /root. To get rid of the mount 
I do umount backmount. After mounting I could then copy files at will 
from the Centos box to backmount and they would appear on the Backup 
drive on the Mac and vice versa.


CB

On 1/18/16 4:23 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

Your Mac uses netbios to share its folders. This is why it's relatively
easier to share your host's file system in a Windows VMware guest
machine--netbios is natively a Microsoft way of doing such things.

You have two choices for access Mac hosted file systems under Linux
virtual machines:

1.) Install and configure Samba in order to get netbios services
under Linux. This is a common application, and apt-get on your Ubuntu
machine will know about Samba.

2.) Find, install and configure a NFS server on your Mac. NFS is the
preferred way to mount file systems hosted across a network under Linux,
and is easily configured on the Linux side of things. However, it's not
common on Mac to share using NFS.


PS: It's fairly easy to go the other way around with NFS. In other
words, it's fairly easy to read NFS exported file systems from a Linux
virtual host machine on the Mac host. In my situation I have my Airbook
configured to access files from my home office Linux servers using NFS.

The point here is that you're using network technology to mount remote
file systems--even though both machines are in the same physical box.
The communication between your Mac and your VMware virtual machines is
using TCP/IP.

hth

Janina

Michael Marshall writes:

hey all,
yesterday i at last got open VM tools installed on ubuntu mate v 15 so i could 
hopefully share and mirror folders from the mac on my virtual machine.
even after installing open VM tools i could not find my shared folders, nor 
could i see anything in any of the folders i wanted to mirror between the two 
machines.
is there something that i'm doing wrong? the installation of open VM tools went 
exactly according to plan but that was as far as i got.
I find this incredibly irritating and i'm out of ideas.
i even tried this on the mane ubuntu distro without any luck.

thanks for any help

Michael

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Re: requesting help with linux and VM Fusion on mac.

2016-01-19 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Thanks, Chris. This is very helpful.

Using my ssh session into my mac, I do:

which nfsd

And, get the result:

/sbin/nfsd

Bingo. There is indeed a daemon for serving up the Mac's file systems
via nfs. I'm obliged to you! 

Janina


'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries writes:
> It's been a while since I did this but OSX has nfsd pre-installed and you
> only need to set it up. From my old notes I think I had to set up my exports
> file in /etc/exports (see man exports). I wanted to backup some mysql files
> from a Centos box to my mac so I had a drive on the Mac called Backup and
> just added
> 
> /Volumes/Backup -maproot=cblouch
> 
> cblouch was my username on both boxes. I then did an nfsd enable to start
> things up. From the linux side I did something like:
> 
> mount network_address_of_my_mac:/Volumes/Backup /root/backmount
> 
> where backmount was an existing folder in /root. To get rid of the mount I
> do umount backmount. After mounting I could then copy files at will from the
> Centos box to backmount and they would appear on the Backup drive on the Mac
> and vice versa.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 1/18/16 4:23 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >Your Mac uses netbios to share its folders. This is why it's relatively
> >easier to share your host's file system in a Windows VMware guest
> >machine--netbios is natively a Microsoft way of doing such things.
> >
> >You have two choices for access Mac hosted file systems under Linux
> >virtual machines:
> >
> >1.)  Install and configure Samba in order to get netbios services
> >under Linux. This is a common application, and apt-get on your Ubuntu
> >machine will know about Samba.
> >
> >2.)  Find, install and configure a NFS server on your Mac. NFS is the
> >preferred way to mount file systems hosted across a network under Linux,
> >and is easily configured on the Linux side of things. However, it's not
> >common on Mac to share using NFS.
> >
> >
> >PS: It's fairly easy to go the other way around with NFS. In other
> >words, it's fairly easy to read NFS exported file systems from a Linux
> >virtual host machine on the Mac host. In my situation I have my Airbook
> >configured to access files from my home office Linux servers using NFS.
> >
> >The point here is that you're using network technology to mount remote
> >file systems--even though both machines are in the same physical box.
> >The communication between your Mac and your VMware virtual machines is
> >using TCP/IP.
> >
> >hth
> >
> >Janina
> >
> >Michael Marshall writes:
> >>hey all,
> >>yesterday i at last got open VM tools installed on ubuntu mate v 15 so i 
> >>could hopefully share and mirror folders from the mac on my virtual machine.
> >>even after installing open VM tools i could not find my shared folders, nor 
> >>could i see anything in any of the folders i wanted to mirror between the 
> >>two machines.
> >>is there something that i'm doing wrong? the installation of open VM tools 
> >>went exactly according to plan but that was as far as i got.
> >>I find this incredibly irritating and i'm out of ideas.
> >>i even tried this on the mane ubuntu distro without any luck.
> >>
> >>thanks for any help
> >>
> >>Michael
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Re: requesting help with linux and VM Fusion on mac.

2016-01-18 Thread Michael Marshall
hey,
thanks for the info.
i was able to get the HGFS drivers workking in VM Fusion so that problem is 
solved thank god.
what linux do you use?
if you use ubuntu how do you cope with the Unity desktop view?
i am having a play with ubuntu mate at the moment.
> On 19 Jan 2016, at 8:23 AM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Your Mac uses netbios to share its folders. This is why it's relatively
> easier to share your host's file system in a Windows VMware guest
> machine--netbios is natively a Microsoft way of doing such things.
> 
> You have two choices for access Mac hosted file systems under Linux
> virtual machines:
> 
> 1.)   Install and configure Samba in order to get netbios services
> under Linux. This is a common application, and apt-get on your Ubuntu
> machine will know about Samba.
> 
> 2.)   Find, install and configure a NFS server on your Mac. NFS is the
> preferred way to mount file systems hosted across a network under Linux,
> and is easily configured on the Linux side of things. However, it's not
> common on Mac to share using NFS.
> 
> 
> PS: It's fairly easy to go the other way around with NFS. In other
> words, it's fairly easy to read NFS exported file systems from a Linux
> virtual host machine on the Mac host. In my situation I have my Airbook
> configured to access files from my home office Linux servers using NFS.
> 
> The point here is that you're using network technology to mount remote
> file systems--even though both machines are in the same physical box.
> The communication between your Mac and your VMware virtual machines is
> using TCP/IP.
> 
> hth
> 
> Janina
> 
> Michael Marshall writes:
>> hey all,
>> yesterday i at last got open VM tools installed on ubuntu mate v 15 so i 
>> could hopefully share and mirror folders from the mac on my virtual machine.
>> even after installing open VM tools i could not find my shared folders, nor 
>> could i see anything in any of the folders i wanted to mirror between the 
>> two machines.
>> is there something that i'm doing wrong? the installation of open VM tools 
>> went exactly according to plan but that was as far as i got.
>> I find this incredibly irritating and i'm out of ideas.
>> i even tried this on the mane ubuntu distro without any luck.
>> 
>> thanks for any help
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
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Re: requesting help with linux and VM Fusion on mac.

2016-01-18 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Hi,

Your Mac uses netbios to share its folders. This is why it's relatively
easier to share your host's file system in a Windows VMware guest
machine--netbios is natively a Microsoft way of doing such things.

You have two choices for access Mac hosted file systems under Linux
virtual machines:

1.) Install and configure Samba in order to get netbios services
under Linux. This is a common application, and apt-get on your Ubuntu
machine will know about Samba.

2.) Find, install and configure a NFS server on your Mac. NFS is the
preferred way to mount file systems hosted across a network under Linux,
and is easily configured on the Linux side of things. However, it's not
common on Mac to share using NFS.


PS: It's fairly easy to go the other way around with NFS. In other
words, it's fairly easy to read NFS exported file systems from a Linux
virtual host machine on the Mac host. In my situation I have my Airbook
configured to access files from my home office Linux servers using NFS.

The point here is that you're using network technology to mount remote
file systems--even though both machines are in the same physical box.
The communication between your Mac and your VMware virtual machines is
using TCP/IP.

hth

Janina

Michael Marshall writes:
> hey all,
> yesterday i at last got open VM tools installed on ubuntu mate v 15 so i 
> could hopefully share and mirror folders from the mac on my virtual machine.
> even after installing open VM tools i could not find my shared folders, nor 
> could i see anything in any of the folders i wanted to mirror between the two 
> machines.
> is there something that i'm doing wrong? the installation of open VM tools 
> went exactly according to plan but that was as far as i got.
> I find this incredibly irritating and i'm out of ideas.
> i even tried this on the mane ubuntu distro without any luck.
> 
> thanks for any help
> 
> Michael
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requesting help with linux and VM Fusion on mac.

2016-01-12 Thread Michael Marshall
hey all,
yesterday i at last got open VM tools installed on ubuntu mate v 15 so i could 
hopefully share and mirror folders from the mac on my virtual machine.
even after installing open VM tools i could not find my shared folders, nor 
could i see anything in any of the folders i wanted to mirror between the two 
machines.
is there something that i'm doing wrong? the installation of open VM tools went 
exactly according to plan but that was as far as i got.
I find this incredibly irritating and i'm out of ideas.
i even tried this on the mane ubuntu distro without any luck.

thanks for any help

Michael

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Re: am on the lookout for any podcasts about setting up and using windows and vm fusion

2016-01-03 Thread Michael Marshall
thanks, i'm loving VMware fusion, i worked out 99% of it on my own.

Michael
> On 3 Jan 2016, at 11:27 PM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:
> 
> You run your operating system like you would any other problem.  VM Fusionis 
> just an application that runs and it houses your other operating systems.  
> You install a screen reader inside the target OS and it runs to help you when 
> your using the App.  When you exit out or minimize and go back to the mac 
> Voice Over takes over.
> 
> 
> Just go to www.blindcooltech.com <http://www.blindcooltech.com/> and search 
> on VM Fusion.  You should find all you need.
> 
>> On Jan 2, 2016, at 6:43 PM, Michael Marshall <mightymaggie...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:mightymaggie...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> hey,
>> thanks for getting back to me.
>> how do you use the operating systems after there all set up? how do you go 
>> between them?
>> do you have a link to this podcast?
>> 
>> thanks
>> 
>> Michael
>>> On 3 Jan 2016, at 12:46 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net 
>>> <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, in my opinion VM Fusion is the best choice.  I like being able to run 
>>> multiple operating systems at the same time and work between them freely.  
>>> That being said Virtual Box is another free option that does quite well.
>>> Next, Mike Erigo on blindcooltech had a great podcast on setting up 
>>> fusion.  It was old but it still works the same way all be it even easier 
>>> and more reliably in the newest releases.  Totally worth your time to 
>>> listen.
>>> 
>>> It’s a very easy process though, install fusion, activate the create new VM 
>>> option and follow the prompts.  I used a Win 7 ISO and set up totally 
>>> independently with out eyeballs so you should be able to do this easily.
>>> 
>>> Good luck and please post any follow up questions you might have.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Scott
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 2, 2016, at 8:05 AM, Michael Marshall <mightymaggie...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:mightymaggie...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> hey all,
>>>> i have been thinking about setting up a virtual machine to run windows 7 
>>>> on the mac using vm fusion.
>>>> I do not know where to begin.
>>>> are there any podcasts or step by step guides on how to install windows 
>>>> and use it effectively with vm fusion?
>>>> is vm fusion the best Choice?
>>>> 
>>>> thanks for any help
>>>> 
>>>> Michael
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Re: am on the lookout for any podcasts about setting up and using windows and vm fusion

2016-01-03 Thread Scott Granados
You run your operating system like you would any other problem.  VM Fusionis 
just an application that runs and it houses your other operating systems.  You 
install a screen reader inside the target OS and it runs to help you when your 
using the App.  When you exit out or minimize and go back to the mac Voice Over 
takes over.


Just go to www.blindcooltech.com <http://www.blindcooltech.com/> and search on 
VM Fusion.  You should find all you need.

> On Jan 2, 2016, at 6:43 PM, Michael Marshall <mightymaggie...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> hey,
> thanks for getting back to me.
> how do you use the operating systems after there all set up? how do you go 
> between them?
> do you have a link to this podcast?
> 
> thanks
> 
> Michael
>> On 3 Jan 2016, at 12:46 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, in my opinion VM Fusion is the best choice.  I like being able to run 
>> multiple operating systems at the same time and work between them freely.  
>> That being said Virtual Box is another free option that does quite well.
>>  Next, Mike Erigo on blindcooltech had a great podcast on setting up 
>> fusion.  It was old but it still works the same way all be it even easier 
>> and more reliably in the newest releases.  Totally worth your time to listen.
>> 
>> It’s a very easy process though, install fusion, activate the create new VM 
>> option and follow the prompts.  I used a Win 7 ISO and set up totally 
>> independently with out eyeballs so you should be able to do this easily.
>> 
>> Good luck and please post any follow up questions you might have.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Scott
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 2, 2016, at 8:05 AM, Michael Marshall <mightymaggie...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> hey all,
>>> i have been thinking about setting up a virtual machine to run windows 7 on 
>>> the mac using vm fusion.
>>> I do not know where to begin.
>>> are there any podcasts or step by step guides on how to install windows and 
>>> use it effectively with vm fusion?
>>> is vm fusion the best Choice?
>>> 
>>> thanks for any help
>>> 
>>> Michael
>>> 
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am on the lookout for any podcasts about setting up and using windows and vm fusion

2016-01-02 Thread Michael Marshall
hey all,
i have been thinking about setting up a virtual machine to run windows 7 on the 
mac using vm fusion.
I do not know where to begin.
are there any podcasts or step by step guides on how to install windows and use 
it effectively with vm fusion?
is vm fusion the best Choice?

thanks for any help

Michael

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Re: am on the lookout for any podcasts about setting up and using windows and vm fusion

2016-01-02 Thread Scott Granados
Hi, in my opinion VM Fusion is the best choice.  I like being able to run 
multiple operating systems at the same time and work between them freely.  That 
being said Virtual Box is another free option that does quite well.
Next, Mike Erigo on blindcooltech had a great podcast on setting up 
fusion.  It was old but it still works the same way all be it even easier and 
more reliably in the newest releases.  Totally worth your time to listen.

It’s a very easy process though, install fusion, activate the create new VM 
option and follow the prompts.  I used a Win 7 ISO and set up totally 
independently with out eyeballs so you should be able to do this easily.

Good luck and please post any follow up questions you might have.

Thanks

Scott


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> I do not know where to begin.
> are there any podcasts or step by step guides on how to install windows and 
> use it effectively with vm fusion?
> is vm fusion the best Choice?
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Re: am on the lookout for any podcasts about setting up and using windows and vm fusion

2016-01-02 Thread Michael Marshall
hey,
thanks for getting back to me.
how do you use the operating systems after there all set up? how do you go 
between them?
do you have a link to this podcast?

thanks

Michael
> On 3 Jan 2016, at 12:46 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi, in my opinion VM Fusion is the best choice.  I like being able to run 
> multiple operating systems at the same time and work between them freely.  
> That being said Virtual Box is another free option that does quite well.
>   Next, Mike Erigo on blindcooltech had a great podcast on setting up 
> fusion.  It was old but it still works the same way all be it even easier and 
> more reliably in the newest releases.  Totally worth your time to listen.
> 
> It’s a very easy process though, install fusion, activate the create new VM 
> option and follow the prompts.  I used a Win 7 ISO and set up totally 
> independently with out eyeballs so you should be able to do this easily.
> 
> Good luck and please post any follow up questions you might have.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
>> On Jan 2, 2016, at 8:05 AM, Michael Marshall <mightymaggie...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> hey all,
>> i have been thinking about setting up a virtual machine to run windows 7 on 
>> the mac using vm fusion.
>> I do not know where to begin.
>> are there any podcasts or step by step guides on how to install windows and 
>> use it effectively with vm fusion?
>> is vm fusion the best Choice?
>> 
>> thanks for any help
>> 
>> Michael
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Re: am on the lookout for any podcasts about setting up and using windows and vm fusion

2016-01-02 Thread Simon Fogarty


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> On 3/01/2016, at 2:05 AM, Michael Marshall <mightymaggie...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> hey all,
> i have been thinking about setting up a virtual machine to run windows 7 on 
> the mac using vm fusion.
> I do not know where to begin.
> are there any podcasts or step by step guides on how to install windows and 
> use it effectively with vm fusion?
> is vm fusion the best Choice?
> 
> thanks for any help
> 
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> virtual box & vm fusion and to me fusion is far better for accessibility. Its 
> just a shame its not free. I ve also tried parallels but its not great for 
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Re: VM Fusion 8.1 user experience comments

2015-10-30 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
I don’t have windows at all at home.  I was thinking of getting a CD from 
Amazon but wait to see if the price comes down.
> On 30 Oct 2015, at 21:33, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
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> Ditto; started with version 3.  Things have only got better.  Any comments I 
> might make about the product are pertinent to the product as a whole and not 
> its accessibility, although there were bugs in prior releases which meant, 
> for example, that one could not use snapshots requiring use of the command 
> line.  And the pricing or limited configuration options (compared to 
> Workstation or VBox) are things I’m largely prepared to deal with, especially 
> since I have access to Workstation also.
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RE: VM Fusion 8.1 user experience comments

2015-10-30 Thread george b
Well the issue is I can only find a 32 bit windows 7 and it will I am assuming 
will not let me upgrade to 64 bit will it?

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Subject: Re: VM Fusion 8.1 user experience comments

If you have a copy of an earlier version of windows you can download and 
install windows 10 for free.


> On Oct 29, 2015, at 7:29 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> I have the latest VMFusion but no windows.  I need to get Windows 10 just to 
> try it.
>> On 29 Oct 2015, at 13:52, Nicolai Svendsen <chojiro1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> 
>> I very much agree. The only issue I sometimes have is that keys in the VM 
>> are sometimes held down, especially when in conjunction with shift, although 
>> this is actually because of VoiceOVer's quick nav issue. Aside from that 
>> unrelated Fusion bug that causes the VM to act weird, it's very nice. 
>> They've done really well with it. I'm more than happy to keep upgrading, and 
>> I started out with VmWare Fusion 3. It's come a long way since then.
>> 
>> Nicolai
>>> On Oct 29, 2015, at 9:40 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It just dawned on me while working with fusion that it really has gotten 
>>> very good from an accessibility and over all stability stand point.  I know 
>>> some on list have commented it’s over priced and the upgrade methods have a 
>>> lot to be desired and there are strong points to be made but as someone who 
>>> started with Fusion 3 and is now using the  latest 8.x version it’s gotten 
>>> so much easier to use.  Things like the menus being nicely accessible while 
>>> in the VM through voiceover, really smooth and predictable startup and 
>>> shutdown of VMs, the windows initial registration and setup worked and the 
>>> integration with a laptop (power off / restore / hibernate etc) works 
>>> great.  Anyone else agree or am  I some how lucky or to clueless to no 
>>> better.:)
>>> 
>>> I’m over all just finding I’m using the product and not fighting with the 
>>> product, which is a huge improvement.  Other comments encouraged?  In my 
>>> case I’m running on a Macbook Pro  environment one 15 with 2.6 ghz I7 and 
>>> the other a 13 with upgraded CPU, 16 and 8 GB respectively.  All on SSD 
>>> entirely.
>>> 
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Re: VM Fusion 8.1 user experience comments

2015-10-30 Thread Scott Granados
If you have a copy of an earlier version of windows you can download and 
install windows 10 for free.


> On Oct 29, 2015, at 7:29 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> I have the latest VMFusion but no windows.  I need to get Windows 10 just to 
> try it.
>> On 29 Oct 2015, at 13:52, Nicolai Svendsen  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> 
>> I very much agree. The only issue I sometimes have is that keys in the VM 
>> are sometimes held down, especially when in conjunction with shift, although 
>> this is actually because of VoiceOVer's quick nav issue. Aside from that 
>> unrelated Fusion bug that causes the VM to act weird, it's very nice. 
>> They've done really well with it. I'm more than happy to keep upgrading, and 
>> I started out with VmWare Fusion 3. It's come a long way since then.
>> 
>> Nicolai
>>> On Oct 29, 2015, at 9:40 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It just dawned on me while working with fusion that it really has gotten 
>>> very good from an accessibility and over all stability stand point.  I know 
>>> some on list have commented it’s over priced and the upgrade methods have a 
>>> lot to be desired and there are strong points to be made but as someone who 
>>> started with Fusion 3 and is now using the  latest 8.x version it’s gotten 
>>> so much easier to use.  Things like the menus being nicely accessible while 
>>> in the VM through voiceover, really smooth and predictable startup and 
>>> shutdown of VMs, the windows initial registration and setup worked and the 
>>> integration with a laptop (power off / restore / hibernate etc) works 
>>> great.  Anyone else agree or am  I some how lucky or to clueless to no 
>>> better.:)
>>> 
>>> I’m over all just finding I’m using the product and not fighting with the 
>>> product, which is a huge improvement.  Other comments encouraged?  In my 
>>> case I’m running on a Macbook Pro  environment one 15 with 2.6 ghz I7 and 
>>> the other a 13 with upgraded CPU, 16 and 8 GB respectively.  All on SSD 
>>> entirely.
>>> 
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Re: VM Fusion 8.1 user experience comments

2015-10-30 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
Ditto; started with version 3.  Things have only got better.  Any comments I 
might make about the product are pertinent to the product as a whole and not 
its accessibility, although there were bugs in prior releases which meant, for 
example, that one could not use snapshots requiring use of the command line.  
And the pricing or limited configuration options (compared to Workstation or 
VBox) are things I’m largely prepared to deal with, especially since I have 
access to Workstation also.

Yeah, it’s nice, really.  Just keep your wallet handy. :)

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RE: VM Fusion 8.1 user experience comments

2015-10-29 Thread george b
Scott email me off list I removed v m from my m b p 13 and wish to pick your 
brain what is left of it.

Thqanks

Go 49er's beat those rams

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It just dawned on me while working with fusion that it really has gotten very 
good from an accessibility and over all stability stand point.  I know some on 
list have commented it’s over priced and the upgrade methods have a lot to be 
desired and there are strong points to be made but as someone who started with 
Fusion 3 and is now using the  latest 8.x version it’s gotten so much easier to 
use.  Things like the menus being nicely accessible while in the VM through 
voiceover, really smooth and predictable startup and shutdown of VMs, the 
windows initial registration and setup worked and the integration with a laptop 
(power off / restore / hibernate etc) works great.  Anyone else agree or am  I 
some how lucky or to clueless to no better.:)

I’m over all just finding I’m using the product and not fighting with the 
product, which is a huge improvement.  Other comments encouraged?  In my case 
I’m running on a Macbook Pro  environment one 15 with 2.6 ghz I7 and the other 
a 13 with upgraded CPU, 16 and 8 GB respectively.  All on SSD entirely.


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VM Fusion 8.1 user experience comments

2015-10-29 Thread Scott Granados
It just dawned on me while working with fusion that it really has gotten very 
good from an accessibility and over all stability stand point.  I know some on 
list have commented it’s over priced and the upgrade methods have a lot to be 
desired and there are strong points to be made but as someone who started with 
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use.  Things like the menus being nicely accessible while in the VM through 
voiceover, really smooth and predictable startup and shutdown of VMs, the 
windows initial registration and setup worked and the integration with a laptop 
(power off / restore / hibernate etc) works great.  Anyone else agree or am  I 
some how lucky or to clueless to no better.:)

I’m over all just finding I’m using the product and not fighting with the 
product, which is a huge improvement.  Other comments encouraged?  In my case 
I’m running on a Macbook Pro  environment one 15 with 2.6 ghz I7 and the other 
a 13 with upgraded CPU, 16 and 8 GB respectively.  All on SSD entirely.


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Re: VM Fusion 8.1 user experience comments

2015-10-29 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Hi!

I very much agree. The only issue I sometimes have is that keys in the VM are 
sometimes held down, especially when in conjunction with shift, although this 
is actually because of VoiceOVer's quick nav issue. Aside from that unrelated 
Fusion bug that causes the VM to act weird, it's very nice. They've done really 
well with it. I'm more than happy to keep upgrading, and I started out with 
VmWare Fusion 3. It's come a long way since then.

Nicolai
> On Oct 29, 2015, at 9:40 AM, Scott Granados  wrote:
> 
> It just dawned on me while working with fusion that it really has gotten very 
> good from an accessibility and over all stability stand point.  I know some 
> on list have commented it’s over priced and the upgrade methods have a lot to 
> be desired and there are strong points to be made but as someone who started 
> with Fusion 3 and is now using the  latest 8.x version it’s gotten so much 
> easier to use.  Things like the menus being nicely accessible while in the VM 
> through voiceover, really smooth and predictable startup and shutdown of VMs, 
> the windows initial registration and setup worked and the integration with a 
> laptop (power off / restore / hibernate etc) works great.  Anyone else agree 
> or am  I some how lucky or to clueless to no better.:)
> 
> I’m over all just finding I’m using the product and not fighting with the 
> product, which is a huge improvement.  Other comments encouraged?  In my case 
> I’m running on a Macbook Pro  environment one 15 with 2.6 ghz I7 and the 
> other a 13 with upgraded CPU, 16 and 8 GB respectively.  All on SSD entirely.
> 
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