Re: voiceover, lion, and safari
I did the same clean install, and am also confused by those who want to go back to SL. lol. Lion definitely has bugs. No doubt about it. If I said other wise, I would need my head examined. But I still find it superior to Snow Leopard. Especially as far as Voiceover is concerned. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:46 PM, John Panarese wrote: Did you import your settings? I'm not trying to be picky here, as I am seeking some kind of pattern from those who are having problems in Lion. I did a complete clean install and then manually put back all of my applications one by one and set up all of my mail accounts and such from scratch. I didn't migrate anything. So far, I simply am not experiencing all of the trouble others are having and I think Lion runs quicker and smoother than Snow Leopard. I am confused by those wanting to go back to SL or those who think they shouldn't upgrade because of what they have read. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Cody wrote: I clean installed snow leopard then upgraded to lion fresh with no other system changes On Jul 26, 2011, at 6:14 PM, John Panarese wrote: If this has been asked, I apologize and if it is obvious questions, again, my apologies. ? Was it an upgrade or a clean install of lion? If it was an upgrade, did you do a permissions check afterwards? Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 6:03 PM, Cody wrote: But that is what I mean sometimes the web rooter won't even work properly for me, I might change to links and press the down arrow and many times voiceover just repeats the title of the webpage, and can only navigate with the left and right arrow keys. However, I did verify that option command left and right does move and announce doc items…thanks for that Cody On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:56 PM, John Panarese wrote: I found the downloads link by using the web item rotor and the links option there. I also used the control-option-f search as well. It does not show up at all in item chooser, though I get 104 items I can easily navigate. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:49 PM, Cody wrote: For moving items on the doc, I've got quicknav off, and I'm using option to move items. the items move, but I get no feedback of them doing so…I have not tried option command, however… When typing in something in the item chooser which i know is on a current webpage, for example, typing downloads on hj.com only gives you the download button for safari, and nothing else, even though the downloads link is visible on the hj.com site… Cody On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:43 PM, John Panarese wrote: I am not experiencing any problems with moving items on the dock and hearing feedback. Are you using option-command and the arrow keys to move the items? As for the Item Chooser in Safari, again, I am not seeing any problems. You can use the VoiceOver search command, VO keys-f as well. Yes, accessibil...@apple.com is the address to send comments and feedback to Apple. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Cody wrote: Hi everyone, Is it me, or are there more problems than not with safari? For example, the item chooser is basically useless, and some times when trying to navigate with the up/down arrows voiceover just repeats the title of the page. also, moving items on the doc works, but get no feedback…has anon reported the safari issues to apple and if not what is the email address i should send them too? I believe it's accessibil...@apple.com but I'm not sure… Regards, Cody -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Re: voiceover, lion, and safari
Well, count me in as one of those who did an upgrade overtop of SL and find they do not wish to return to SL from Lion. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jul 27, 2011, at 2:42 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: I did the same clean install, and am also confused by those who want to go back to SL. lol. Lion definitely has bugs. No doubt about it. If I said other wise, I would need my head examined. But I still find it superior to Snow Leopard. Especially as far as Voiceover is concerned. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:46 PM, John Panarese wrote: Did you import your settings? I'm not trying to be picky here, as I am seeking some kind of pattern from those who are having problems in Lion. I did a complete clean install and then manually put back all of my applications one by one and set up all of my mail accounts and such from scratch. I didn't migrate anything. So far, I simply am not experiencing all of the trouble others are having and I think Lion runs quicker and smoother than Snow Leopard. I am confused by those wanting to go back to SL or those who think they shouldn't upgrade because of what they have read. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Cody wrote: I clean installed snow leopard then upgraded to lion fresh with no other system changes On Jul 26, 2011, at 6:14 PM, John Panarese wrote: If this has been asked, I apologize and if it is obvious questions, again, my apologies. ? Was it an upgrade or a clean install of lion? If it was an upgrade, did you do a permissions check afterwards? Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 6:03 PM, Cody wrote: But that is what I mean sometimes the web rooter won't even work properly for me, I might change to links and press the down arrow and many times voiceover just repeats the title of the webpage, and can only navigate with the left and right arrow keys. However, I did verify that option command left and right does move and announce doc items…thanks for that Cody On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:56 PM, John Panarese wrote: I found the downloads link by using the web item rotor and the links option there. I also used the control-option-f search as well. It does not show up at all in item chooser, though I get 104 items I can easily navigate. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:49 PM, Cody wrote: For moving items on the doc, I've got quicknav off, and I'm using option to move items. the items move, but I get no feedback of them doing so…I have not tried option command, however… When typing in something in the item chooser which i know is on a current webpage, for example, typing downloads on hj.com only gives you the download button for safari, and nothing else, even though the downloads link is visible on the hj.com site… Cody On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:43 PM, John Panarese wrote: I am not experiencing any problems with moving items on the dock and hearing feedback. Are you using option-command and the arrow keys to move the items? As for the Item Chooser in Safari, again, I am not seeing any problems. You can use the VoiceOver search command, VO keys-f as well. Yes, accessibil...@apple.com is the address to send comments and feedback to Apple. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Cody wrote: Hi everyone, Is it me, or are there more problems than not with safari? For example, the item chooser is basically useless, and some times when trying to navigate with the up/down arrows voiceover just repeats the title of the page. also, moving items on the doc works, but get no feedback…has anon reported the safari issues to apple and if not what is the email address i should send them too? I believe it's accessibil...@apple.com but I'm not sure… Regards, Cody -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
Re: voiceover, lion, and safari
I wish to do a fresh install of Lion as I burnt the image to DVD but I could not do it. If anyone could write to me off list with instructions please. I had to install over SL. Thanks. Kawal. Sent from my iPhone On 27 Jul 2011, at 12:24 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Well, count me in as one of those who did an upgrade overtop of SL and find they do not wish to return to SL from Lion. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jul 27, 2011, at 2:42 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: I did the same clean install, and am also confused by those who want to go back to SL. lol. Lion definitely has bugs. No doubt about it. If I said other wise, I would need my head examined. But I still find it superior to Snow Leopard. Especially as far as Voiceover is concerned. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:46 PM, John Panarese wrote: Did you import your settings? I'm not trying to be picky here, as I am seeking some kind of pattern from those who are having problems in Lion. I did a complete clean install and then manually put back all of my applications one by one and set up all of my mail accounts and such from scratch. I didn't migrate anything. So far, I simply am not experiencing all of the trouble others are having and I think Lion runs quicker and smoother than Snow Leopard. I am confused by those wanting to go back to SL or those who think they shouldn't upgrade because of what they have read. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Cody wrote: I clean installed snow leopard then upgraded to lion fresh with no other system changes On Jul 26, 2011, at 6:14 PM, John Panarese wrote: If this has been asked, I apologize and if it is obvious questions, again, my apologies. ? Was it an upgrade or a clean install of lion? If it was an upgrade, did you do a permissions check afterwards? Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 6:03 PM, Cody wrote: But that is what I mean sometimes the web rooter won't even work properly for me, I might change to links and press the down arrow and many times voiceover just repeats the title of the webpage, and can only navigate with the left and right arrow keys. However, I did verify that option command left and right does move and announce doc items…thanks for that Cody On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:56 PM, John Panarese wrote: I found the downloads link by using the web item rotor and the links option there. I also used the control-option-f search as well. It does not show up at all in item chooser, though I get 104 items I can easily navigate. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:49 PM, Cody wrote: For moving items on the doc, I've got quicknav off, and I'm using option to move items. the items move, but I get no feedback of them doing so…I have not tried option command, however… When typing in something in the item chooser which i know is on a current webpage, for example, typing downloads on hj.com only gives you the download button for safari, and nothing else, even though the downloads link is visible on the hj.com site… Cody On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:43 PM, John Panarese wrote: I am not experiencing any problems with moving items on the dock and hearing feedback. Are you using option-command and the arrow keys to move the items? As for the Item Chooser in Safari, again, I am not seeing any problems. You can use the VoiceOver search command, VO keys-f as well. Yes, accessibil...@apple.com is the address to send comments and feedback to Apple. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Cody wrote: Hi everyone, Is it me, or are there more problems than not with safari? For example, the item chooser is basically useless, and some times when trying to navigate with the up/down arrows voiceover just repeats the title of the page. also, moving items on the doc works, but get no feedback…has anon reported the safari issues to apple and if not what is the email address i should send them too? I believe it's accessibil...@apple.com but I'm not sure… Regards, Cody -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to
RE: voiceover, lion, and safari
Hi! I don't have instructions for you, as I asked Apple about doing a fresh install when I was on the phone with them on Friday, and they claim it can't be done. Installing over SL is, at least from what I understand, the only correct and recommended way. Still, if someone does have instructions that work, I'm sure they'll post them, and I'm sure that Mike Arigo's Lion podcast will prove to be extremely helpful. Good luck, and I hope you get everything working! _ From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 7:32 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: voiceover, lion, and safari I wish to do a fresh install of Lion as I burnt the image to DVD but I could not do it. If anyone could write to me off list with instructions please. I had to install over SL. Thanks. Kawal. Sent from my iPhone On 27 Jul 2011, at 12:24 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Well, count me in as one of those who did an upgrade overtop of SL and find they do not wish to return to SL from Lion. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: http://m.facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1?refid=0 facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jul 27, 2011, at 2:42 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: I did the same clean install, and am also confused by those who want to go back to SL. lol. Lion definitely has bugs. No doubt about it. If I said other wise, I would need my head examined. But I still find it superior to Snow Leopard. Especially as far as Voiceover is concerned. Ricardo Walker mailto:rwalker...@gmail.com rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:46 PM, John Panarese wrote: Did you import your settings? I'm not trying to be picky here, as I am seeking some kind of pattern from those who are having problems in Lion. I did a complete clean install and then manually put back all of my applications one by one and set up all of my mail accounts and such from scratch. I didn't migrate anything. So far, I simply am not experiencing all of the trouble others are having and I think Lion runs quicker and smoother than Snow Leopard. I am confused by those wanting to go back to SL or those who think they shouldn't upgrade because of what they have read. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Cody wrote: I clean installed snow leopard then upgraded to lion fresh with no other system changes On Jul 26, 2011, at 6:14 PM, John Panarese wrote: If this has been asked, I apologize and if it is obvious questions, again, my apologies. ? Was it an upgrade or a clean install of lion? If it was an upgrade, did you do a permissions check afterwards? Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 6:03 PM, Cody wrote: But that is what I mean sometimes the web rooter won't even work properly for me, I might change to links and press the down arrow and many times voiceover just repeats the title of the webpage, and can only navigate with the left and right arrow keys. However, I did verify that option command left and right does move and announce doc items…thanks for that Cody On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:56 PM, John Panarese wrote: I found the downloads link by using the web item rotor and the links option there. I also used the control-option-f search as well. It does not show up at all in item chooser, though I get 104 items I can easily navigate. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:49 PM, Cody wrote: For moving items on the doc, I've got quicknav off, and I'm using option to move items. the items move, but I get no feedback of them doing so…I have not tried option command, however… When typing in something in the item chooser which i know is on a current webpage, for example, typing downloads on hj.com only gives you the download button for safari, and nothing else, even though the downloads link is visible on the hj.com site… Cody On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:43 PM, John Panarese wrote: I am not experiencing any problems with moving items on the dock and hearing feedback. Are you using option-command and the arrow keys to move the items? As for the Item Chooser in Safari, again, I am not seeing any problems. You can use the VoiceOver search command, VO keys-f as well. Yes, accessibil...@apple.com is the address to send comments and feedback to Apple. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Cody wrote: Hi everyone, Is it me, or are there more problems than not with safari? For example, the item chooser is basically useless, and some times when trying to navigate with the up/down arrows voiceover just repeats the title of the page. also, moving items on the doc works, but get
Re: voiceover, lion, and safari
Thanks. I look forward to Mike's podcast. Sent from my iPhone On 27 Jul 2011, at 12:36 PM, Missy Hoppe melis...@fuse.net wrote: Hi! I don't have instructions for you, as I asked Apple about doing a fresh install when I was on the phone with them on Friday, and they claim it can't be done. Installing over SL is, at least from what I understand, the only correct and recommended way. Still, if someone does have instructions that work, I'm sure they'll post them, and I'm sure that Mike Arigo's Lion podcast will prove to be extremely helpful. Good luck, and I hope you get everything working! From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 7:32 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: voiceover, lion, and safari I wish to do a fresh install of Lion as I burnt the image to DVD but I could not do it. If anyone could write to me off list with instructions please. I had to install over SL. Thanks. Kawal. Sent from my iPhone On 27 Jul 2011, at 12:24 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Well, count me in as one of those who did an upgrade overtop of SL and find they do not wish to return to SL from Lion. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jul 27, 2011, at 2:42 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: I did the same clean install, and am also confused by those who want to go back to SL. lol. Lion definitely has bugs. No doubt about it. If I said other wise, I would need my head examined. But I still find it superior to Snow Leopard. Especially as far as Voiceover is concerned. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:46 PM, John Panarese wrote: Did you import your settings? I'm not trying to be picky here, as I am seeking some kind of pattern from those who are having problems in Lion. I did a complete clean install and then manually put back all of my applications one by one and set up all of my mail accounts and such from scratch. I didn't migrate anything. So far, I simply am not experiencing all of the trouble others are having and I think Lion runs quicker and smoother than Snow Leopard. I am confused by those wanting to go back to SL or those who think they shouldn't upgrade because of what they have read. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Cody wrote: I clean installed snow leopard then upgraded to lion fresh with no other system changes On Jul 26, 2011, at 6:14 PM, John Panarese wrote: If this has been asked, I apologize and if it is obvious questions, again, my apologies. ? Was it an upgrade or a clean install of lion? If it was an upgrade, did you do a permissions check afterwards? Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 6:03 PM, Cody wrote: But that is what I mean sometimes the web rooter won't even work properly for me, I might change to links and press the down arrow and many times voiceover just repeats the title of the webpage, and can only navigate with the left and right arrow keys. However, I did verify that option command left and right does move and announce doc items…thanks for that Cody On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:56 PM, John Panarese wrote: I found the downloads link by using the web item rotor and the links option there. I also used the control-option-f search as well. It does not show up at all in item chooser, though I get 104 items I can easily navigate. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:49 PM, Cody wrote: For moving items on the doc, I've got quicknav off, and I'm using option to move items. the items move,but I get no feedback of them doing so…I have not tried option command, however… When typing in something in the item chooser which i know is on a current webpage, for example, typing downloads on hj.com only gives you the download button for safari, and nothing else, even though the downloads link is visible on the hj.com site… Cody On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:43 PM, John Panarese wrote: I am not experiencing any problems with moving items on the dock and hearing feedback. Are you using option-command and the arrow keys to move theitems? As for the Item Chooser in Safari, again, I am not seeing any problems. You can use the VoiceOver search command, VO keys-f as well
Re: voiceover, lion, and safari
I really am starting to believe that many issues people are reporting are system specific. It's just completely odd to me that folks using virtually the same kinds of systems and configurations, as well as their methods of installing Lion are having completely different experiences. I am not in the least belittling or minimizing anyone's difficulties, as I certainly can feel for them. Since I am having such a good experience in Lion, I only wish that everyone else could have similar results as I am. Thus, trying to determine, in anyway, what factors or circumstances are leading to specific kinds of problems would be a great help towards solutions. I just wish I could offer additional suggestions to cure the Item Chooser issue and the like. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 27, 2011, at 1:11 AM, Cody wrote: nope I did everything manually so far On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:46 PM, John Panarese wrote: Did you import your settings? I'm not trying to be picky here, as I am seeking some kind of pattern from those who are having problems in Lion. I did a complete clean install and then manually put back all of my applications one by one and set up all of my mail accounts and such from scratch. I didn't migrate anything. So far, I simply am not experiencing all of the trouble others are having and I think Lion runs quicker and smoother than Snow Leopard. I am confused by those wanting to go back to SL or those who think they shouldn't upgrade because of what they have read. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Cody wrote: I clean installed snow leopard then upgraded to lion fresh with no other system changes On Jul 26, 2011, at 6:14 PM, John Panarese wrote: If this has been asked, I apologize and if it is obvious questions, again, my apologies. ? Was it an upgrade or a clean install of lion? If it was an upgrade, did you do a permissions check afterwards? Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 6:03 PM, Cody wrote: But that is what I mean sometimes the web rooter won't even work properly for me, I might change to links and press the down arrow and many times voiceover just repeats the title of the webpage, and can only navigate with the left and right arrow keys. However, I did verify that option command left and right does move and announce doc items…thanks for that Cody On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:56 PM, John Panarese wrote: I found the downloads link by using the web item rotor and the links option there. I also used the control-option-f search as well. It does not show up at all in item chooser, though I get 104 items I can easily navigate. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:49 PM, Cody wrote: For moving items on the doc, I've got quicknav off, and I'm using option to move items. the items move, but I get no feedback of them doing so…I have not tried option command, however… When typing in something in the item chooser which i know is on a current webpage, for example, typing downloads on hj.com only gives you the download button for safari, and nothing else, even though the downloads link is visible on the hj.com site… Cody On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:43 PM, John Panarese wrote: I am not experiencing any problems with moving items on the dock and hearing feedback. Are you using option-command and the arrow keys to move the items? As for the Item Chooser in Safari, again, I am not seeing any problems. You can use the VoiceOver search command, VO keys-f as well. Yes, accessibil...@apple.com is the address to send comments and feedback to Apple. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Cody wrote: Hi everyone, Is it me, or are there more problems than not with safari? For example, the item chooser is basically useless, and some times when trying to navigate with the up/down arrows voiceover just repeats the title of the page. also, moving items on the doc works, but get no feedback…has anon reported the safari issues to apple and if not what is the email address i should send them too? I believe it's accessibil...@apple.com but I'm not sure… Regards, Cody -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Re: voiceover, lion, and safari
I am not having problems with the web rotor, but, I am having a lot of Safari busy messages when I click on certain links. the Item chooser, well, sometimes it works a little bit and others, VO just stops for a few seconds and restarts. This is an upgrade and I have done the permission repair twice. I am going to try a install from scratch as soon as I have the time and ambition to do so! On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:14 PM, John Panarese wrote: If this has been asked, I apologize and if it is obvious questions, again, my apologies. ? Was it an upgrade or a clean install of lion? If it was an upgrade, did you do a permissions check afterwards? Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 6:03 PM, Cody wrote: But that is what I mean sometimes the web rooter won't even work properly for me, I might change to links and press the down arrow and many times voiceover just repeats the title of the webpage, and can only navigate with the left and right arrow keys. However, I did verify that option command left and right does move and announce doc items…thanks for that Cody On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:56 PM, John Panarese wrote: I found the downloads link by using the web item rotor and the links option there. I also used the control-option-f search as well. It does not show up at all in item chooser, though I get 104 items I can easily navigate. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:49 PM, Cody wrote: For moving items on the doc, I've got quicknav off, and I'm using option to move items. the items move, but I get no feedback of them doing so…I have not tried option command, however… When typing in something in the item chooser which i know is on a current webpage, for example, typing downloads on hj.com only gives you the download button for safari, and nothing else, even though the downloads link is visible on the hj.com site… Cody On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:43 PM, John Panarese wrote: I am not experiencing any problems with moving items on the dock and hearing feedback. Are you using option-command and the arrow keys to move the items? As for the Item Chooser in Safari, again, I am not seeing any problems. You can use the VoiceOver search command, VO keys-f as well. Yes, accessibil...@apple.com is the address to send comments and feedback to Apple. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Cody wrote: Hi everyone, Is it me, or are there more problems than not with safari? For example, the item chooser is basically useless, and some times when trying to navigate with the up/down arrows voiceover just repeats the title of the page. also, moving items on the doc works, but get no feedback…has anon reported the safari issues to apple and if not what is the email address i should send them too? I believe it's accessibil...@apple.com but I'm not sure… Regards, Cody -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to
voiceover, lion, and safari
Hi everyone, Is it me, or are there more problems than not with safari? For example, the item chooser is basically useless, and some times when trying to navigate with the up/down arrows voiceover just repeats the title of the page. also, moving items on the doc works, but get no feedback…has anon reported the safari issues to apple and if not what is the email address i should send them too? I believe it's accessibil...@apple.com but I'm not sure… Regards, Cody -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voiceover, lion, and safari
I am not experiencing any problems with moving items on the dock and hearing feedback. Are you using option-command and the arrow keys to move the items? As for the Item Chooser in Safari, again, I am not seeing any problems. You can use the VoiceOver search command, VO keys-f as well. Yes, accessibil...@apple.com is the address to send comments and feedback to Apple. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Cody wrote: Hi everyone, Is it me, or are there more problems than not with safari? For example, the item chooser is basically useless, and some times when trying to navigate with the up/down arrows voiceover just repeats the title of the page. also, moving items on the doc works, but get no feedback…has anon reported the safari issues to apple and if not what is the email address i should send them too? I believe it's accessibil...@apple.com but I'm not sure… Regards, Cody -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voiceover, lion, and safari
For moving items on the doc, I've got quicknav off, and I'm using option to move items. the items move, but I get no feedback of them doing so…I have not tried option command, however… When typing in something in the item chooser which i know is on a current webpage, for example, typing downloads on hj.com only gives you the download button for safari, and nothing else, even though the downloads link is visible on the hj.com site… Cody On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:43 PM, John Panarese wrote: I am not experiencing any problems with moving items on the dock and hearing feedback. Are you using option-command and the arrow keys to move the items? As for the Item Chooser in Safari, again, I am not seeing any problems. You can use the VoiceOver search command, VO keys-f as well. Yes, accessibil...@apple.com is the address to send comments and feedback to Apple. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Cody wrote: Hi everyone, Is it me, or are there more problems than not with safari? For example, the item chooser is basically useless, and some times when trying to navigate with the up/down arrows voiceover just repeats the title of the page. also, moving items on the doc works, but get no feedback…has anon reported the safari issues to apple and if not what is the email address i should send them too? I believe it's accessibil...@apple.com but I'm not sure… Regards, Cody -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voiceover, lion, and safari
I found the downloads link by using the web item rotor and the links option there. I also used the control-option-f search as well. It does not show up at all in item chooser, though I get 104 items I can easily navigate. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:49 PM, Cody wrote: For moving items on the doc, I've got quicknav off, and I'm using option to move items. the items move, but I get no feedback of them doing so…I have not tried option command, however… When typing in something in the item chooser which i know is on a current webpage, for example, typing downloads on hj.com only gives you the download button for safari, and nothing else, even though the downloads link is visible on the hj.com site… Cody On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:43 PM, John Panarese wrote: I am not experiencing any problems with moving items on the dock and hearing feedback. Are you using option-command and the arrow keys to move the items? As for the Item Chooser in Safari, again, I am not seeing any problems. You can use the VoiceOver search command, VO keys-f as well. Yes, accessibil...@apple.com is the address to send comments and feedback to Apple. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Cody wrote: Hi everyone, Is it me, or are there more problems than not with safari? For example, the item chooser is basically useless, and some times when trying to navigate with the up/down arrows voiceover just repeats the title of the page. also, moving items on the doc works, but get no feedback…has anon reported the safari issues to apple and if not what is the email address i should send them too? I believe it's accessibil...@apple.com but I'm not sure… Regards, Cody -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voiceover, lion, and safari
But that is what I mean sometimes the web rooter won't even work properly for me, I might change to links and press the down arrow and many times voiceover just repeats the title of the webpage, and can only navigate with the left and right arrow keys. However, I did verify that option command left and right does move and announce doc items…thanks for that Cody On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:56 PM, John Panarese wrote: I found the downloads link by using the web item rotor and the links option there. I also used the control-option-f search as well. It does not show up at all in item chooser, though I get 104 items I can easily navigate. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:49 PM, Cody wrote: For moving items on the doc, I've got quicknav off, and I'm using option to move items. the items move, but I get no feedback of them doing so…I have not tried option command, however… When typing in something in the item chooser which i know is on a current webpage, for example, typing downloads on hj.com only gives you the download button for safari, and nothing else, even though the downloads link is visible on the hj.com site… Cody On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:43 PM, John Panarese wrote: I am not experiencing any problems with moving items on the dock and hearing feedback. Are you using option-command and the arrow keys to move the items? As for the Item Chooser in Safari, again, I am not seeing any problems. You can use the VoiceOver search command, VO keys-f as well. Yes, accessibil...@apple.com is the address to send comments and feedback to Apple. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Cody wrote: Hi everyone, Is it me, or are there more problems than not with safari? For example, the item chooser is basically useless, and some times when trying to navigate with the up/down arrows voiceover just repeats the title of the page. also, moving items on the doc works, but get no feedback…has anon reported the safari issues to apple and if not what is the email address i should send them too? I believe it's accessibil...@apple.com but I'm not sure… Regards, Cody -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voiceover, lion, and safari
If this has been asked, I apologize and if it is obvious questions, again, my apologies. ? Was it an upgrade or a clean install of lion? If it was an upgrade, did you do a permissions check afterwards? Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 6:03 PM, Cody wrote: But that is what I mean sometimes the web rooter won't even work properly for me, I might change to links and press the down arrow and many times voiceover just repeats the title of the webpage, and can only navigate with the left and right arrow keys. However, I did verify that option command left and right does move and announce doc items…thanks for that Cody On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:56 PM, John Panarese wrote: I found the downloads link by using the web item rotor and the links option there. I also used the control-option-f search as well. It does not show up at all in item chooser, though I get 104 items I can easily navigate. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:49 PM, Cody wrote: For moving items on the doc, I've got quicknav off, and I'm using option to move items. the items move, but I get no feedback of them doing so…I have not tried option command, however… When typing in something in the item chooser which i know is on a current webpage, for example, typing downloads on hj.com only gives you the download button for safari, and nothing else, even though the downloads link is visible on the hj.com site… Cody On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:43 PM, John Panarese wrote: I am not experiencing any problems with moving items on the dock and hearing feedback. Are you using option-command and the arrow keys to move the items? As for the Item Chooser in Safari, again, I am not seeing any problems. You can use the VoiceOver search command, VO keys-f as well. Yes, accessibil...@apple.com is the address to send comments and feedback to Apple. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Cody wrote: Hi everyone, Is it me, or are there more problems than not with safari? For example, the item chooser is basically useless, and some times when trying to navigate with the up/down arrows voiceover just repeats the title of the page. also, moving items on the doc works, but get no feedback…has anon reported the safari issues to apple and if not what is the email address i should send them too? I believe it's accessibil...@apple.com but I'm not sure… Regards, Cody -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voiceover, lion, and safari
I clean installed snow leopard then upgraded to lion fresh with no other system changes On Jul 26, 2011, at 6:14 PM, John Panarese wrote: If this has been asked, I apologize and if it is obvious questions, again, my apologies. ? Was it an upgrade or a clean install of lion? If it was an upgrade, did you do a permissions check afterwards? Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 6:03 PM, Cody wrote: But that is what I mean sometimes the web rooter won't even work properly for me, I might change to links and press the down arrow and many times voiceover just repeats the title of the webpage, and can only navigate with the left and right arrow keys. However, I did verify that option command left and right does move and announce doc items…thanks for that Cody On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:56 PM, John Panarese wrote: I found the downloads link by using the web item rotor and the links option there. I also used the control-option-f search as well. It does not show up at all in item chooser, though I get 104 items I can easily navigate. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:49 PM, Cody wrote: For moving items on the doc, I've got quicknav off, and I'm using option to move items. the items move, but I get no feedback of them doing so…I have not tried option command, however… When typing in something in the item chooser which i know is on a current webpage, for example, typing downloads on hj.com only gives you the download button for safari, and nothing else, even though the downloads link is visible on the hj.com site… Cody On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:43 PM, John Panarese wrote: I am not experiencing any problems with moving items on the dock and hearing feedback. Are you using option-command and the arrow keys to move the items? As for the Item Chooser in Safari, again, I am not seeing any problems. You can use the VoiceOver search command, VO keys-f as well. Yes, accessibil...@apple.com is the address to send comments and feedback to Apple. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Cody wrote: Hi everyone, Is it me, or are there more problems than not with safari? For example, the item chooser is basically useless, and some times when trying to navigate with the up/down arrows voiceover just repeats the title of the page. also, moving items on the doc works, but get no feedback…has anon reported the safari issues to apple and if not what is the email address i should send them too? I believe it's accessibil...@apple.com but I'm not sure… Regards, Cody -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
Re: voiceover, lion, and safari
Did you import your settings? I'm not trying to be picky here, as I am seeking some kind of pattern from those who are having problems in Lion. I did a complete clean install and then manually put back all of my applications one by one and set up all of my mail accounts and such from scratch. I didn't migrate anything. So far, I simply am not experiencing all of the trouble others are having and I think Lion runs quicker and smoother than Snow Leopard. I am confused by those wanting to go back to SL or those who think they shouldn't upgrade because of what they have read. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Cody wrote: I clean installed snow leopard then upgraded to lion fresh with no other system changes On Jul 26, 2011, at 6:14 PM, John Panarese wrote: If this has been asked, I apologize and if it is obvious questions, again, my apologies. ? Was it an upgrade or a clean install of lion? If it was an upgrade, did you do a permissions check afterwards? Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 6:03 PM, Cody wrote: But that is what I mean sometimes the web rooter won't even work properly for me, I might change to links and press the down arrow and many times voiceover just repeats the title of the webpage, and can only navigate with the left and right arrow keys. However, I did verify that option command left and right does move and announce doc items…thanks for that Cody On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:56 PM, John Panarese wrote: I found the downloads link by using the web item rotor and the links option there. I also used the control-option-f search as well. It does not show up at all in item chooser, though I get 104 items I can easily navigate. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:49 PM, Cody wrote: For moving items on the doc, I've got quicknav off, and I'm using option to move items. the items move, but I get no feedback of them doing so…I have not tried option command, however… When typing in something in the item chooser which i know is on a current webpage, for example, typing downloads on hj.com only gives you the download button for safari, and nothing else, even though the downloads link is visible on the hj.com site… Cody On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:43 PM, John Panarese wrote: I am not experiencing any problems with moving items on the dock and hearing feedback. Are you using option-command and the arrow keys to move the items? As for the Item Chooser in Safari, again, I am not seeing any problems. You can use the VoiceOver search command, VO keys-f as well. Yes, accessibil...@apple.com is the address to send comments and feedback to Apple. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Cody wrote: Hi everyone, Is it me, or are there more problems than not with safari? For example, the item chooser is basically useless, and some times when trying to navigate with the up/down arrows voiceover just repeats the title of the page. also, moving items on the doc works, but get no feedback…has anon reported the safari issues to apple and if not what is the email address i should send them too? I believe it's accessibil...@apple.com but I'm not sure… Regards, Cody -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group,
Re: voiceover, lion, and safari
nope I did everything manually so far On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:46 PM, John Panarese wrote: Did you import your settings? I'm not trying to be picky here, as I am seeking some kind of pattern from those who are having problems in Lion. I did a complete clean install and then manually put back all of my applications one by one and set up all of my mail accounts and such from scratch. I didn't migrate anything. So far, I simply am not experiencing all of the trouble others are having and I think Lion runs quicker and smoother than Snow Leopard. I am confused by those wanting to go back to SL or those who think they shouldn't upgrade because of what they have read. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Cody wrote: I clean installed snow leopard then upgraded to lion fresh with no other system changes On Jul 26, 2011, at 6:14 PM, John Panarese wrote: If this has been asked, I apologize and if it is obvious questions, again, my apologies. ? Was it an upgrade or a clean install of lion? If it was an upgrade, did you do a permissions check afterwards? Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 6:03 PM, Cody wrote: But that is what I mean sometimes the web rooter won't even work properly for me, I might change to links and press the down arrow and many times voiceover just repeats the title of the webpage, and can only navigate with the left and right arrow keys. However, I did verify that option command left and right does move and announce doc items…thanks for that Cody On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:56 PM, John Panarese wrote: I found the downloads link by using the web item rotor and the links option there. I also used the control-option-f search as well. It does not show up at all in item chooser, though I get 104 items I can easily navigate. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:49 PM, Cody wrote: For moving items on the doc, I've got quicknav off, and I'm using option to move items. the items move, but I get no feedback of them doing so…I have not tried option command, however… When typing in something in the item chooser which i know is on a current webpage, for example, typing downloads on hj.com only gives you the download button for safari, and nothing else, even though the downloads link is visible on the hj.com site… Cody On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:43 PM, John Panarese wrote: I am not experiencing any problems with moving items on the dock and hearing feedback. Are you using option-command and the arrow keys to move the items? As for the Item Chooser in Safari, again, I am not seeing any problems. You can use the VoiceOver search command, VO keys-f as well. Yes, accessibil...@apple.com is the address to send comments and feedback to Apple. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Cody wrote: Hi everyone, Is it me, or are there more problems than not with safari? For example, the item chooser is basically useless, and some times when trying to navigate with the up/down arrows voiceover just repeats the title of the page. also, moving items on the doc works, but get no feedback…has anon reported the safari issues to apple and if not what is the email address i should send them too? I believe it's accessibil...@apple.com but I'm not sure… Regards, Cody -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this