Exchange Password?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Group.

Mac asks me to enter Exchange email password, does it mean the password to
my outlook.com account, right?

Thanks!

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RE: Exchange Password?

[Fazil M.]

Yes, I do have only one Outlook account.

Is there a way that I can read spoken prompts of Mac? Does the text appear 
somewhere or it is spoken only?

Thanks!

 

From: 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries  
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Probably yes, if that’s the only Microsoft Exchange account you have.

 

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Subject: Exchange Password?

Hi, Group.

Mac asks me to enter Exchange email password, does it mean the password to my 
outlook.com account, right?

Thanks!

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Keyboard Command for Sending Text Message?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Group.

I am trying to send a text message via Mac. I can not find 'Send-Button'
anywhere. In the Toolbar, I find 'Compose Button' and Conversation Button,
but not Send Button. Shift-command-d is not working either.

Help, please!

Thanks!

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RE: Keyboard Command for Sending Text Message?

[Fazil M.]

Return to send? So, what about next line? How can I start a new paragraph?

Thanks!

 

From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2021 11:49 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Keyboard Command for Sending Text Message?

 

Hi,

 

Just press return to send.

 

Later…

 


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On Dec 22, 2021, at 12:41, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Hi, Group.

I am trying to send a text message via Mac. I can not find ‘Send-Button’ 
anywhere. In the Toolbar, I find ‘Compose Button’ and Conversation Button, but 
not Send Button. Shift-command-d is not working either.

Help, please!

Thanks!

 

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Strap With Executive Case?

[Fazil M.]

Hi.

Does Executive case come with shoulder strap?

Thanks!

strap

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RE: Keyboard Command for Sending Text Message?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Tim.

is Option-Return to send the message or to change the paragraph?

Thanks!

 

 

From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2021 11:24 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Keyboard Command for Sending Text Message?

 

Hi,

 

Hold down the Option key and press return.  Initially, text messages and 
iMessages were not meant to be paragraphs long, but Apple sill made this key 
combination available.

 

Later…

 


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On Dec 22, 2021, at 13:06, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Return to send? So, what about next line? How can I start a new paragraph?

Thanks!

 

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Hi,

 

Just press return to send.

 

Later…

 


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Hi, Group.

I am trying to send a text message via Mac. I can not find ‘Send-Button’ 
anywhere. In the Toolbar, I find ‘Compose Button’ and Conversation Button, but 
not Send Button. Shift-command-d is not working either.

Help, please!

Thanks!

 

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Contents of Mac Box?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Group.

A blind friend of mine gotta question about the contents of the Mac box.

He received his brand new M1 other day

Besides the computer, cable and the charger, there is a card envelope in the
box and this envelope has three sheets. One of them is a three-fold paper
and every fold is of the size as the other two folds are and there are two
single sheets too.

Can someone make a guess about the envelope's contents?

Could those three papers be users manual or some sort of manufacturers
warranty?

Thanks!

 

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2021 9:16 AM
To: 'Piriya Mokanasingham' 
Subject: Contents of Mac Box?

 

Dear Ms. Mokanasingham.

I gotta question about the contents of the Mac box.

Besides the computer, cable and the charger, there is a card envelope in the
box and this envelope has three sheets. One of them is a three-fold paper
and every fold is of the size as the other two folds are and there are two
single sheets too.

Can the vendor tell me what this envelope is?

Are those three papers are users manual or are they some sort of
manufacturers warranty?

Thanks!

 

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Notification About Mac Updates from the AppStore?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Group.

For several days, Voiceover has been prompting me to update from the
AppStore and I am not sure what kinds of updates they are so I am ignoring
it.

Is it advisable to follow the update prompt regarding updates from the
AppStore and update it?

Thanks!

 

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RE: Notification About Mac Updates from the AppStore?

[Fazil M.]

Yes, it is from the AppStore.

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Brad Snyder
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2021 10:50 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Notification About Mac Updates from the AppStore?

 

Actually, it sounds like the update he is receiving is from the AppStore, not 
Software  Update.

 

In this case, go to the Apple menu in the menu bar, down arrow to AppStore and 
press enter. This will take you to the update section of the App Store.

- Brad -


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Fazil,

I recommend you go to system preferences / software updates.

There you can instruct to automatically update your apps and security and OS. I 
believe it will be under the advanced area, and you may need to use Touch ID or 
your password to enable those changes.

 

Dave Carlson

Woodworker, Oregonian, Pioneer, Musician, Engineer, and Farfar

 

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Hi, Group.

For several days, Voiceover has been prompting me to update from the AppStore 
and I am not sure what kinds of updates they are so I am ignoring it.

Is it advisable to follow the update prompt regarding updates from the AppStore 
and update it?

Thanks!

 

 

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RE: Notification About Mac Updates from the AppStore?

[Fazil M.]

How can I see each individual app?

Thanks!

 

 

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Behalf Of Brad Snyder
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2021 11:47 AM
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True, but I never recommend that. I think it's best to know what you're 
installing before you install it.

- Brad -


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True, but in system preferences under software update you can tell the Mac OS 
to automatically download app updates, in addition to security patches and 
other things — inside the advanced portion in software updates.

 

Dave Carlson

Woodworker, Oregonian, Pioneer, Musician, Engineer, and Farfar

 

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Actually, it sounds like the update he is receiving is from the AppStore, not 
Software  Update.

 

In this case, go to the Apple menu in the menu bar, down arrow to AppStore and 
press enter. This will take you to the update section of the App Store.

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Fazil,

I recommend you go to system preferences / software updates.

There you can instruct to automatically update your apps and security and OS. I 
believe it will be under the advanced area, and you may need to use Touch ID or 
your password to enable those changes.

 

Dave Carlson

Woodworker, Oregonian, Pioneer, Musician, Engineer, and Farfar

 

On Nov 23, 2021, at 9:06 AM, Fazil M. mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi, Group.

For several days, Voiceover has been prompting me to update from the AppStore 
and I am not sure what kinds of updates they are so I am ignoring it.

Is it advisable to follow the update prompt regarding updates from the AppStore 
and update it?

Thanks!

 

 

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RE: Contents of Mac Box?

[Fazil M.]

Thanks much, yes, I do have this app too! Indeed, a very nice handy little app.

 

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Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2021 2:17 PM
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Subject: Re: Contents of Mac Box?

 

Just for future reference, the iOS app called voice dream scanner would 
immediately tell you the contents of those sheets of paper. I use it constantly 
to do my mail and anything that I need to read. It’s the simplest most 
effective scanning app I have ever used and I’ve been around for a while. Check 
it out.

Sent from my IPhone

 





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The envelope contains nothing important. Your friend can disregard it.

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On Nov 23, 2021, at 14:39, Fazil M. mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hi, Group.

A blind friend of mine gotta question about the contents of the Mac box.

He received his brand new M1 other day

Besides the computer, cable and the charger, there is a card envelope in the 
box and this envelope has three sheets. One of them is a three-fold paper and 
every fold is of the size as the other two folds are and there are two single 
sheets too.

Can someone make a guess about the envelope’s contents?

Could those three papers be users manual or some sort of manufacturers warranty?

Thanks!

 

 

 

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Subject: Contents of Mac Box?

 

Dear Ms. Mokanasingham.

I gotta question about the contents of the Mac box.

Besides the computer, cable and the charger, there is a card envelope in the 
box and this envelope has three sheets. One of them is a three-fold paper and 
every fold is of the size as the other two folds are and there are two single 
sheets too.

Can the vendor tell me what this envelope is?

Are those three papers are users manual or are they some sort of manufacturers 
warranty?

Thanks!

 

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Installing Windows on Macbook-Pro2017?

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Hi, Group.

I want Windows11 installed on MacbookPro2017.

Is there any podcasts/articles from VoiceOver prospective on this topic that
I can listen to or read it?

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VO=X, Is this a VoiceOver Command?

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Hi, Group.

I, just by coincidence, hit VO-X and VoiceOver Said activity, voiceover
settings but did nothing when I tried to navigate to different directions.
Is VO-X a valid VoiceOver Command?

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RE: Moving YouTube Slider?

[Fazil M.]

Jumping youtube video in time.

 

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What do you mean by the Youtube slider?





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Hi, Group.

How can I move Youtube slider, please?

Thanks!

 

 

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Moving YouTube Slider?

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Hi, Group.

How can I move Youtube slider, please?

Thanks!

 

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RE: Moving YouTube Slider?

[Fazil M.]

What does it mean, would I be able to jump ahead in time in a playing video or 
rewind it?

 

Thanks!

 

 

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You should be able to VO right passed the slider.





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Jumping youtube video in time.

 

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What do you mean by the Youtube slider?






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Hi, Group.

How can I move Youtube slider, please?

Thanks!

 

 

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VO-X Command?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Group.

What does the command VO-X do (pressing once or twice)?

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YouTube Slider?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, list.

Can I enter number manually in YouTube slider if the file is too long?

If yes, how can it be done, please?

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RE: Question about batterys

[Fazil M.]

What is the Voiceover command to click the mouse/trackpad?

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RE: To All iOS VoiceOver Users, Twitter Spaces is Accessible, Give It a Try

[Fazil M.]

I used it for the first and Voila, it worked!

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a Try

have you tried it from your Mac?  I would love to have access from it there so 
i can do my podcast live there if it works.


> On Mar 5, 2022, at 10:31 AM, 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> Hi Mark,
> I have been using Twitter Spaces on my iPhone 12 Pro Max as well. I found it 
> to be very easily accessed in my Twitter app. I have a Sony WH1000XN4 and did 
> not experience the spacial audio that I did in clubhouse but perhaps there is 
> a setting I have not tweaked yet. I did however find Spaces to be both 
> accessible and enjoyable.
> Merv
> 
> 
>> On Mar 5, 2022, at 1:43 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All:  
>> 
>> This past week, I have been giving Twitter Spaces a test drive and I 
>> am so excited to recommend it to all iOS VoiceOver users.
>> 
>> First, I am going to paste in some text from a 9 to 5 Mac article, 
>> written last year, that summarizes the Twitter Spaces feature:
>> 
>> Begin Article fragment:
>> Twitter now lets users join Spaces via desktop and mobile web 
>> browsers By Filipe Espósito, 9 to 5 Mac.
>> Spaces is a live audio chat platform developed by Twitter, which was 
>> officially introduced earlier this year as an alternative to 
>> Clubhouse. As Spaces is now available to most users of the social 
>> network, Twitter is finally expanding the feature to desktop and mobile web 
>> browsers.
>> Twitter confirmed in April this year that it was working on bringing 
>> Spaces to web browsers, as the platform was only available on 
>> Twitter’s official iOS and Android apps. Starting today, users will 
>> also be able to join Spaces using a web browser, whether on a computer, 
>> tablet, or smartphone.
>> According to the company, the feature is still considered beta, which 
>> means that it has some limitations when compared to Spaces in the Twitter 
>> app.
>> Right now, the focus areas are infrastructure, user interface, 
>> scheduled Spaces, and accessibility features.
>> End Article Fragment.
>> 
>> As I write this, I feel almost overwhelmed because I am finding it 
>> difficult to introduce you to a new feature that is, at first glance, 
>> not intuitive or VoiceOver accessible.  So what should I do?  I’ll 
>> try to express my thoughts in a numbered list:
>> 
>> 1.
>> Twitter is absolutely dedicated to making Spaces VoiceOver accessible.
>> While I am not at liberty to expand on this, please trust me when I 
>> say that all Apple VoiceOver user feedback is being considered on a daily 
>> basis.
>> This is truly one of the most exciting moments for us, as VoiceOver 
>> users in terms of having Twitter’s full attention.  So, please try 
>> the new feature and send feedback to Twitter.
>> 
>> 2.
>> For those who may not know, in its simplest form, a live audio chat 
>> feature means that anyone can open a audio channel, and talk about 
>> anything and, while the chat is live, others can listen-in and join 
>> the conversation.  For example, if I just wanted to express myself, 
>> on Twitter, using my voice, I could open a Space, type in a brief 
>> description of the subject, and begin talking.  As my audio streams, 
>> others on Twitter will be alerted to the fact that there is a live 
>> Space, currently active, and they could listen in and ask me for 
>> permission to speak.  Just a few minutes ago, I opened the Spaces tab 
>> in my Twitter app, and discovered that one live Space has people 
>> discussing how to get money back from friends who do not want to 
>> repay the loan.  Another Space is discussing the best Elvis Presley 
>> performances of all time.  Yet another space is talking about the best 
>> episodes of Start Trek.  I see one, right now, talking about the Crimean war.
>> 
>> 3.
>> Currently, the Twitter Spaces full-feature set is Available for iOS, 
>> only; not iPad OS.
>> 
>> 4.
>> In the Twitter app, select the Spaces tab.  VoiceOver users must use 
>> the swiping gesture in order to scroll down the list of live Spaces.
>> 
>> 5.
>> As you swipe through the list, you will hear VoiceOver say, Button” 
>> several times.  You will also hear, “Posted by”.  Listen for the 
>> posted by phrase because immediately following that will be a description of 
>> the Space.
>> Understand that Twitter has no control over how someone writes their 
>> description so if they cannot spell correctly or use a bad 
>> description, that will be reflected in VoiceOver’s output.
>> 
>> 6.
>> Entering a Space is easy and launching your own live Space is easy, 
>> also.  I suggest that you search the web for the various features of 
>> Spaces for more detail.
>> 
>> 7.
>> Twitter Spaces is free for both listening and hosting.
>> 
>> 8.
>> Twitter Spaces can be scheduled 

Adding Language Revisited, (Tim Kilburn)

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Group.

Lately, I reset my Voiceover to factory default and my added languages are
not working ever since.

A couple of weeks ago, Tim Kilburn told me how to add more languages and I
added Hindi and Arabic and Voiceover were recognizing those languages just
fine.

I can not find that message of Tim's in which he told me how to add a
language. If someone still has that message, I would like to have a copy of
that, please?

Thanks!

 

 

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RE: Adding Language Revisited, (Tim Kilburn)

[Fazil M.]

Thanks much, Tim, now it is working fine again as Automatically Detect was not 
selected.

You are a Magician, Tim! *smile*.

 

 

From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2022 9:36 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Adding Language Revisited, (Tim Kilburn)

 

Hi,

 

I’ve pasted in part of our conversation.  This handles the adding of languages 
in System Prefs which should not have been affected by a VoiceOver reset.  
Those languages are somewhat independent of VO, although connected in other 
ways.  Do you have your Voice set to Automatically detect new languages?  Press 
VO-cmd-shift-left or right until you hear VO say “Voice”, and make sure you’ve 
selected the Automatically Detect item.

 

Anyway, here’s the pasted in info:

 

The only Hindi voices I’ve seen in VoiceOver are Lekha and Neel.  In the VO 
Utility, go to Speech, then VO-space on the current voice menu item, and down 
to Customize.  In the Search field, type Hindi, and you’ll find what they have 
to offer at this point in time.

 

Later…

 


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Apple Professional Learning Specialist

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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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On Feb 8, 2022, at 18:36, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Thank you very much, Tim, I have successfully added Hindi and Voiceover is 
reading Hindi now!

Can I see whether we have more voices for Hindi? If yes, where can I see that, 
please?

Thanks again!

Thanks!

 

From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > 
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Adding a Language?

 

Hi,

 

It’s in System Preferences, Languages & Region.  You should have a button in 
this pane that says “Add a preferred language”.  A list of supported languages 
will come up in a table.  Hinki is one of them.  As my Mac read through them, 
it would read them out in their native tongue, then say Russian, or Hungarian, 
or Hindi etc.  Hindi is one of the languages within this table.  It does not 
appear to be alphabetical so you’ll likely have to go down a ways to find Hindi.

 

HTH.

 

Later…


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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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Hi, Group.

Lately, I reset my Voiceover to factory default and my added languages are not 
working ever since.

A couple of weeks ago, Tim Kilburn told me how to add more languages and I 
added Hindi and Arabic and Voiceover were recognizing those languages just fine.

I can not find that message of Tim’s in which he told me how to add a language. 
If someone still has that message, I would like to have a copy of that, please?

Thanks!

 

 

 

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Accessing Bookmark in Mac-Safari?

[Fazil M.]

Hi.

How can I access the Bookmark? I mean I can locate the bookmark in Favorite
but I'm unable to open it by VO-Spacebar, am I doing something wrong?

Thanks!

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RE: Accessing Bookmark in Mac-Safari?

[Fazil M.]

Thanks much, done!

 

From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2022 1:21 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessing Bookmark in Mac-Safari?

 

Hi,

 

The toggle for cursor tracking is VO-shift-f3.  It should say “Cursor tracking 
on” or “Cursor tracking off”.  If it does not, you may need to add the FN key.

 

Later…

 


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada





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Thanks much, Tim.

Just in case, if the cursor tracking is off, how should I turn it on, please?

Thanks!

 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2022 11:29 AM
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Subject: Re: Accessing Bookmark in Mac-Safari?

 

Hi,

 

That is one of the normal processes.  I just tested it on my MBP running 
Monterey 12.3 and pressing VO-space on the Bookmark sent me there.  Do you 
possibly have cursor tracking turned off?

 

Later…

 


Tim Kilburn
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Hi.

How can I access the Bookmark? I mean I can locate the bookmark in Favorite but 
I’m unable to open it by VO-Spacebar, am I doing something wrong?

Thanks!

 

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RE: Accessing Bookmark in Mac-Safari?

[Fazil M.]

Thanks much, Tim.

Just in case, if the cursor tracking is off, how should I turn it on, please?

Thanks!

 

 

From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2022 11:29 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessing Bookmark in Mac-Safari?

 

Hi,

 

That is one of the normal processes.  I just tested it on my MBP running 
Monterey 12.3 and pressing VO-space on the Bookmark sent me there.  Do you 
possibly have cursor tracking turned off?

 

Later…

 


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Jamf Certified Tech
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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Hi.

How can I access the Bookmark? I mean I can locate the bookmark in Favorite but 
I’m unable to open it by VO-Spacebar, am I doing something wrong?

Thanks!

 

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MSWord File In Email Attachment?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Group.

I received an MSWord file as an email attachment. I saved it in Download
folder and found it there too.

When I try to open this Word file, Voiceover takes it to Pages App and
wanted to convert it in Page format.

How would I read this file if I let it be converted in Page format and be
saved there?

I have never used Page before.

Thank you very much and I do appreciate for your help.

 

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RE: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen

[Fazil M.]

Is track pad and touch pad the same thing?
Thanks!

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From: 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 3:58 AM
To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen

I wonder if that is a bug? I’ve had several experts walk me through this and 
all settings are correct. Still my VO will not work on startup on my M1 MacBook 
Pro. However, if I tap the track pad VoiceOver will kick in and I can enter my 
password.
Merv


> On Mar 15, 2022, at 3:07 AM, 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries 
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> It is in system preferences, users, login options. 
> I have not got this to work on my M1 MacBook Pro nor on previous Mac 
> mini Harry
> 
>> On 15 Mar 2022, at 06:14, Dave Carlson  wrote:
>> 
>> Okay, I forgot. Just installed Monterey, and VO is not speaking at the 
>> logon prompt.
>> Where do I go to make this work?
>> 
>> 
>> Dave Carlson
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RE: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen

[Fazil M.]

Do you tap once or double tap?
Thanks!


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From: 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 4:53 AM
To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen

Yes once the MacBook Pro boots I tap the trackpad and the Mac says VoiceOver 
and I can then enter my password. Then I hit enter and the Mac logs in.
Merv


> On Mar 15, 2022, at 7:23 AM, Fazil M.  wrote:
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> I am having the same problem that you have with my MacBookPro2017.
> Do you do double-tap with one finger when Voiceover kicks in?
> Thanks!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries 
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> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 4:11 AM
> To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> 
> Probably. I am calling the thing in front of the spacebar on my MacBook Pro 
> the track pad because of the trackpad commanders. Not to be confused with the 
> touchbar above the number keys that everyone but me despises.
> Merv
> 
> 
>> On Mar 15, 2022, at 7:08 AM, Fazil M.  wrote:
>> 
>> Is track pad and touch pad the same thing?
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries 
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>> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 3:58 AM
>> To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> 
>> Subject: Re: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen
>> 
>> I wonder if that is a bug? I’ve had several experts walk me through this and 
>> all settings are correct. Still my VO will not work on startup on my M1 
>> MacBook Pro. However, if I tap the track pad VoiceOver will kick in and I 
>> can enter my password.
>> Merv
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 15, 2022, at 3:07 AM, 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries 
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>>> It is in system preferences, users, login options. 
>>> I have not got this to work on my M1 MacBook Pro nor on previous Mac 
>>> mini Harry
>>> 
>>>> On 15 Mar 2022, at 06:14, Dave Carlson  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Okay, I forgot. Just installed Monterey, and VO is not speaking at the 
>>>> logon prompt.
>>>> Where do I go to make this work?
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> Engineer, Farfar, Woodworker, Pioneer, and Oregonian
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RE: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen

[Fazil M.]

I am having the same problem that you have with my MacBookPro2017.
Do you do double-tap with one finger when Voiceover kicks in?
Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 4:11 AM
To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen

Probably. I am calling the thing in front of the spacebar on my MacBook Pro the 
track pad because of the trackpad commanders. Not to be confused with the 
touchbar above the number keys that everyone but me despises.
Merv


> On Mar 15, 2022, at 7:08 AM, Fazil M.  wrote:
> 
> Is track pad and touch pad the same thing?
> Thanks!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Mervin Keck III' via MacVisionaries 
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> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 3:58 AM
> To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Re: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen
> 
> I wonder if that is a bug? I’ve had several experts walk me through this and 
> all settings are correct. Still my VO will not work on startup on my M1 
> MacBook Pro. However, if I tap the track pad VoiceOver will kick in and I can 
> enter my password.
> Merv
> 
> 
>> On Mar 15, 2022, at 3:07 AM, 'Harry Bell' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
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>> It is in system preferences, users, login options. 
>> I have not got this to work on my M1 MacBook Pro nor on previous Mac 
>> mini Harry
>> 
>>> On 15 Mar 2022, at 06:14, Dave Carlson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Okay, I forgot. Just installed Monterey, and VO is not speaking at the 
>>> logon prompt.
>>> Where do I go to make this work?
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> Engineer, Farfar, Woodworker, Pioneer, and Oregonian
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RE: Getting Voiceover to Speak at Logon Screen

[Fazil M.]

Thanks much, Tim. I followed these instructions and it worked a couple of times 
but then no more.

 

From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 9:12 AM
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Hi,

 

Actually, In Monterey, go to Users & Groups, then unlock the pane, then select 
Login Options from the Users, Groups & Login Options list.  There will be a 
button there called Accessibility Options.  This will open a screen with a 
table of accessibility options.  Make sure that VoiceOver is checked, apply 
your changes, and restart your computer to see if the changes stick.

 

Later…

 


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Apple Professional Learning Specialist

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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > 
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It is in system preferences, users, login options. 
I have not got this to work on my M1 MacBook Pro nor on previous Mac mini
Harry




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Okay, I forgot. Just installed Monterey, and VO is not speaking at the logon 
prompt.
Where do I go to make this work?


Dave Carlson
Engineer, Farfar, Woodworker, Pioneer, and Oregonian



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Log-In Alert?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Group.

I have Macbook-Pro-2017 with updated Montray.

This morning, I was having breakfast on my dining table, 10 feet away from
Mac that was playing a YouTube video

I heard Voiceover say something like the following:

'Log-in Alert:

Are you sure that you want to exit from all applications and log out the
system? If you do nothing, you would exit from all the applications and log
out of the system.

Wala! I was logged out in one minute!

Is this a bug or I have done something wrong somewhere?

Thanks!

 

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Reading a Forwarded Email in Mac?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, list.

How should I read a forwarded email on Mac, please?

When I forwarded an email to Mac from iPhone, I was able to read signature
only, Sent from my iPhone.

Thanks!

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RE: Reading a Forwarded Email in Mac?

[Fazil M.]

Thanks much, Tim, yes, it, indeed, worked the way you have described! Wow! You, 
indeed, are a Mac encyclopedia! *smile)

I got one more question though:

How can I set up iCloud to sync Mail across devices and enable/disable 
accounts, please?

Thanks!

 

From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 8:09 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reading a Forwarded Email in Mac?

 

Hi,

 

There’s likely an item in the eMail that says something to the effect of “See 
More from So and So”.  Press on that link to see more.  Alternatively, if you 
set up iCloud to sync Mail across devices, you can enable or disable specific 
eMail account so that you do not need to forward anything.  The eMails would 
simply be available on all your devices where that account has been enabled.

 

Later…

 


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Hi, list.

How should I read a forwarded email on Mac, please?

When I forwarded an email to Mac from iPhone, I was able to read signature 
only, Sent from my iPhone.

Thanks!

 

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RE: Editing an Email Account in Mac?

[Fazil M.]

Done!

Thank you very much, Tim!

You are s helpful!

 

From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries  
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Hi,

 

Try doing it in Mail Prefs instead. Under the Accounts tab. 

 

 Later... 

 

Sent from my iPhone





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Hi, Group.

How can I edit one of my email accounts in System Preferences, please? I 
misspelled my name there, how can I fix the spellings, please?

Thanks!

 

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Sent Folder in Mac mail?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Group.

Does Mac Mail keep the copies of the emails that we send? If yes, how can I
access that folder, please?

Thanks!

 

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RE: Sent Folder in Mac mail?

[Fazil M.]

Thanks much, Joseph.

When I go to mailbox table, I see only the Inboxes of my four accounts but not 
Sent Box.

Thanks!

 

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Subject: Re: Sent Folder in Mac mail?

 

Hello, yes if you go into the mailboxes table, and then just simply arrow down, 
you will see all the different folders you have. And there's also a sent folder 
for each account.





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Hi, Group.

Does Mac Mail keep the copies of the emails that we send? If yes, how can I 
access that folder, please?

Thanks!

 

Sincerely yours.

 

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RE: Sent Folder in Mac mail?

[Fazil M.]

Thanks again, Joseph.

This time I found Sent Folder.

Thanks much for your help.

 

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Hello, yes if you go into the mailboxes table, and then just simply arrow down, 
you will see all the different folders you have. And there's also a sent folder 
for each account.





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Does Mac Mail keep the copies of the emails that we send? If yes, how can I 
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Thanks!

 

Sincerely yours.

 

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RE: Log-In Alert?

[Fazil M.]

Thanks much, Tim. That particular checkbox was already unchecked, I increased 
the percentage to 2.5 on the stepper and hit Ok Button. Is it ok for me to 
increase the percentage on the stepper here?

Thanks!

 

 

From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries  
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Subject: Re: Log-In Alert?

 

Hi,

 

Go to System Preferences, Security & Privacy, then select the General tab.  
Down near the bottom of the window, click the lock to unlock this pane.  Press 
the Advanced button.  Uncheck the box that tells your computer to logout after 
some amount of inactivity.

 

HTH.

 

Later…

 


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On Mar 9, 2022, at 10:32, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Hi, Group.

I have Macbook-Pro-2017 with updated Montray.

This morning, I was having breakfast on my dining table, 10 feet away from Mac 
that was playing a YouTube video

I heard Voiceover say something like the following:

‘Log-in Alert:

Are you sure that you want to exit from all applications and log out the 
system? If you do nothing, you would exit from all the applications and log out 
of the system.

Wala! I was logged out in one minute!

Is this a bug or I have done something wrong somewhere?

Thanks!

 

 

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Editing an Email Account in Mac?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Group.

How can I edit one of my email accounts in System Preferences, please? I
misspelled my name there, how can I fix the spellings, please?

Thanks!

 

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RE: Command+Touch ID not turning on Voiceover

[Fazil M.]

Do you press the Touch-ID buttons three-times quickly along with command key? I 
mean press command key, hold it and press touch-id three times.
Thanks!

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Subject: Command+Touch ID not turning on Voiceover

Hello everyone,

Subject line kind of says it all. I have a Touch Bar Mac and the shortcut 
Command+Touch ID randomly stopped working to turn on Voiceover. Weirdly, it 
still turns off VO, but  have to use Siri to turn Voiceover back on. 

Thanks for any thoughts on this strange behavior.

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Right Option-T for Time?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Group. I have brought my Voiceover to factory default setting.

How can I restore the command of 'Right Option' plus t for time and date?

Thanks!

Thanks!

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Custom Verbosity Table in Voiceover Utility?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Group.

What does Custom Verbosity Table do in the Voiceover Utility Category,
Speech?

When I interact with this table, I just find the name of different controls.
Can I customize these controls in any way? If yes, how can I do that,
please?

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Command to Play Previous Video?

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Hi, Group.

May I know Voiceover Command to play previous video of YouTube in Mac?

Thanks!

Thanks!

 

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Mail of November, 2021?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Group.

I am using Native email client of iPhone.

I need to see some of my emails in November, 2021 but I am able to go back
up to 19 January this year by swiping up with three fingers. How can I
access email of those days, please?

Thannks!

 

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RE: Command to Play Previous Video?

[Fazil M.]

Thanks much, should I type ? (question mark) in search field?

Thanks!

 

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Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 10:20 AM
To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Command to Play Previous Video?

 

Hello,

Have you tried typing a question mark  while on the youtube web site? Like all 
Google sites, this is generally a feature that will bring up a list of keyboard 
commands. 

For me it indicates a Capital P  can be used to play the previous video. I 
believe that in at least some cases, the Safari back command will command-[ 
will also work to take you to the previous video.

 

 

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn







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Hi, Group.

May I know Voiceover Command to play previous video of YouTube in Mac?

Thanks!

Thanks!

 

 

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RE: Mail of November, 2021?

[Fazil M.]

Actually, I am trying to find mails of those days, let’s say all mails between 
7 and 21 November.

Thanks!

 

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Behalf Of joseph hudson
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Subject: Re: Mail of November, 2021?

 

Try searching by subject or persons name.





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Hi, Group.

I am using Native email client of iPhone.

I need to see some of my emails in November, 2021 but I am able to go back up 
to 19 January this year by swiping up with three fingers. How can I access 
email of those days, please?

Thannks!

 

 

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RE: Starting App With Option-Q?

[Fazil M.]

Thanks much, Jonathan, I have added it successfully.

How can I change or remove this command?

Thanks!

 

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Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2022 9:02 AM
To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: Starting App With Option-Q?

 

OPen commanders area of VoiceOver utility.

 

Switch to keyboard tab 

Click the add button 

Type "Q"

Move right with VO right arrow and open the menu.

Select Custom commands sub menu and then Open Application 

Now select the application you want

 

That should be it!

 

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn







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Hi, Group.

I have downloaded and install a couple of Quran Apps. I would like to start one 
of them with Keyboard Commander command, ‘Right Option)plus q. How can I assign 
this command to Voiceover, (right) Option-q for opening this app?

Thanks! 

 

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Changing Voice on Fly?

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Hi, Group.

I think there is a command for changing voiceover Voice on fly, I mean
without evoking Voiceover Utility, may I know that command, please?

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RE: Accessing Draft Email in iPhone?

[Fazil M.]

Thanks much. If I have six different accounts, how can I find the relevant 
draft folder?

Thanks!

 

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You  should  be able to go to your 'draft folder.  

 

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How can I access the incomplete draft of my email in iPhone, please?

Thanks!

 

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Is Voiceover Not Honoring My Configuration?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Group.

Yesterday I reset my Voiceover to Factory Default.

Am I supposed to be losing my adding two languages, Arabic and Hindi when
resetting VO to Factory Default?

Other day, Mr. Kilburn (Tim) told me how to add languages and they were
working just fine but since the reset, however, VO is not respecting that
addition.

Could, Tim Kilburn, tell me again how to add those again, please?

I thought I saved that message of his but, for some reason, I am unable
finding it.

Thanks!

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RE: Spelling Last Spoken Phrase But Not Phonetically?

[Fazil M.]

Thanks much, Tim, actually, I was skipping VO-w once and going directly to VO-w 
twice.

It is ok now.

Thanks again.

 

From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2022 9:44 AM
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Subject: Re: Spelling Last Spoken Phrase But Not Phonetically?

 

Hi,

 

VO-w once should say the word again.  VO-w the second time is supposed to spell 
it out letter by letter.  VO-w the third time is supposed to spell it out 
phonetically.  VO-w the fourth time should start things over again.

 

I’m not sure why yours appears to be spelling out phonetically after only two.

 

Later…

 


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist

Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada





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Hi, Group

I hit letter w twice while holding down VO keys in order to have VoiceOver 
spell out the last spoken phrase. It is phonetically though, can I have it 
spell out but not phonetically?

If yes, how can it be done, please?

Thanks!

 

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Spelling Last Spoken Phrase But Not Phonetically?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Group

I hit letter w twice while holding down VO keys in order to have VoiceOver
spell out the last spoken phrase. It is phonetically though, can I have it
spell out but not phonetically?

If yes, how can it be done, please?

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Keeping Macbook-Pro-2017 Plugged-in ?

[Fazil M.]

Hi.

Is it advisable to leave Macbook-Pro-2017 plugged in all the time?

Thanks!

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Starting App With Option-Q?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Group.

I have downloaded and install a couple of Quran Apps. I would like to start
one of them with Keyboard Commander command, 'Right Option)plus q. How can I
assign this command to Voiceover, (right) Option-q for opening this app?

Thanks! 

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Accessing Download Folder?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Group.

I have downloaded my Vaccination passport and found it in SpotLight search.
How can I access download folder and copy it in my iPhone wallet?

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Mail Layout?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Group.

I still use my Windows computer for my email as I don't feel comfortable
with reading Mail in Mac.

My mac mail layout is as follows:

>From left to right, it is:

Toolbar, Mailbox table, verticle splitter, messages table, horizontal
splitter and message content scroll  area.

I have a ten-message conversation in messages table and the ten-message
conversation is collapsed.

How can I read this conversation message by message and word by word with my
arrow keys, please?

Can a blind person use those two splitters? If yes, what do they do?

Thanksf!

 

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RE: Mail Layout?

[Fazil M.]

I meant how can I access this collapsed conversation, how can I expend this and 
then how can I read each individual message by word or by character?

Thanks!

 

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Behalf Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 1:08 PM
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Subject: Re: Mail Layout?

 

I am not near my Mac right now. However, I may have given you the wrong command 
for reading by word. If option right there on option left arrow do not work, 
tri VO right and VO left.

Sent from my iPhone





On Feb 26, 2022, at 4:04 PM, Les Kriegler mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com> > wrote:

First, you need to make certain that you expand the conversation you were 
reading with the right arrow key. Then, you should be able to hear much of the 
message you want. If you wanna read by character by word, press enter on the 
message you wish to read and then you can use your Aerokis left and right to 
read by character. Then option right arrow and option left arrow will read a 
word forward or a word backward respectively.

Sent from my iPhone





On Feb 26, 2022, at 3:51 PM, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Hi, Group.

I still use my Windows computer for my email as I don’t feel comfortable with 
reading Mail in Mac.

My mac mail layout is as follows:

>From left to right, it is:

Toolbar, Mailbox table, verticle splitter, messages table, horizontal splitter 
and message content scroll  area.

I have a ten-message conversation in messages table and the ten-message 
conversation is collapsed.

How can I read this conversation message by message and word by word with my 
arrow keys, please?

Can a blind person use those two splitters? If yes, what do they do?

Thanksf!

 

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RE: Mail Layout?

[Fazil M.]

Sorry, I did not read this message of yours when I replied to your last message.

Thanks!

 

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Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 1:05 PM
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Subject: Re: Mail Layout?

 

First, you need to make certain that you expand the conversation you were 
reading with the right arrow key. Then, you should be able to hear much of the 
message you want. If you wanna read by character by word, press enter on the 
message you wish to read and then you can use your Aerokis left and right to 
read by character. Then option right arrow and option left arrow will read a 
word forward or a word backward respectively.

Sent from my iPhone





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Hi, Group.

I still use my Windows computer for my email as I don’t feel comfortable with 
reading Mail in Mac.

My mac mail layout is as follows:

>From left to right, it is:

Toolbar, Mailbox table, verticle splitter, messages table, horizontal splitter 
and message content scroll  area.

I have a ten-message conversation in messages table and the ten-message 
conversation is collapsed.

How can I read this conversation message by message and word by word with my 
arrow keys, please?

Can a blind person use those two splitters? If yes, what do they do?

Thanksf!

 

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Accessing Draft Email in iPhone?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Group.

How can I access the incomplete draft of my email in iPhone, please?

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Email Conversation with Attachment?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Group.

I still use my Windows computer for email because I don't feel comfortable
reading email in Apple, whether Mac or iPhone.

Reading single message on iPhone or Mac is just fine, however, reading the
collapsed messages with attachment is really a challenge.

I don't know how to expend collapsed messages and read each message
independently, I don't know which message is the latest, if there is an
attachment, I don't know which one of the nine messages has the attachment
and how to access this attachment.

Any help is much appreciated.

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RE: Email Conversation with Attachment?

[Fazil M.]

Once the thread is expended, how can I read the messages newest first and how 
would I know which of the nine messages have attachment and how can I find it?

Thanks!

 

Thanks

 

 

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Sent: Friday, February 18, 2022 9:43 AM
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On Mac, right aero will  expand the thread and left closes. iPhone, swipe down 
on the thread to expand and double tap.





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Hi, Group.

I still use my Windows computer for email because I don’t feel comfortable  
reading email in Apple, whether Mac or iPhone.

Reading single message on iPhone or Mac is just fine, however, reading the 
collapsed messages with attachment is really a challenge.

I don’t know how to expend collapsed messages and read each message 
independently, I don’t know which message is the latest, if there is an 
attachment, I don’t know which one of the nine messages has the attachment and 
how to access this attachment.

Any help is much appreciated.

Thanks!

 

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Reading Search Results in Amazon.ca

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Group.

I am not sure how to read the search result page on amazon.ca.

When I read by heading with Quick Nav on, the letter H reads the heading but
not the price or any other detail. I have to press right arrow in order to
read detail about the concerned heading. When I press right arrow with Quick
Nav off, voiceover reads character by character.

How can I read the heading and its detail with down arrow?

Would Voiceover read the entire page if I give Read-All Command, VO plus
letter a?

Or is there any other effective reading stretagy that I am unaware of?

I do appreciate for your help.

Thanks!

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Shortcut or Key Accelerator?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Group.

In Jaws, when I am in a menu and hit 5 on numpad, it gives me Key
Accelerator, the single letter which activates a menu item when pressed with
alt key or the letter by itself.

Do we have any similar concept in Mac?

If yes, I would like to hear about it.

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RE: Mac Arabic Keyboard?

[Fazil M.]

Got it! It is Arabic PC.

Thanks!

 

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It depends on the layout. If you use the PC layout, then I remember it is in 
backslash in the English keyboard and ‘accent’ or the button just left to 
number 1 in the numbers row. If you are talking about Mac layout, which I don’t 
remember its name exactly, it is in “v” and “c” respectively for dal and Zhal.

 

Hope it helps, 

 

Regards,

 

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Hi, Group.

When typing Arabic in Mac, how can I have the letters:

Daal & zaal?

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Changing System Voice?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Group.

I am not sure whether I have an appropriate subject-line for my question.

When I hit Option-t, Voiceover announces date I would like to change
this voice that tells the date Can I do that? If yes, how can that be
done, please?

Thanks!

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Reading YouTube Heading By Character?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Group.

This morning, I was on Youtube and trying to read a heading by character. I
had my Quick Nav on.

I was able to read the heading by word with Option-left-right-arrows,
however, I could not read it by character with shift-right-arrow.

Is shift-right arrow not the command to read text by character?

Thanks!

 

 

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RE: Opening This Folder?

[Fazil M.]

Alt? which one is Alt key?

Thanks!

 

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Subject: Re: Opening This Folder?

 

Hello,

 

it is impossible open this folder from the dock.

I open this folder in Finder. I press CMD+Alt+L. 

Done.

 

Best regard.

 

Tibor Niesner





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Hi, Group.

On my Doc, I have a folder —called downloads. Voiceover says ‘to open this 
folder, press ctrl-Option-space. When I press ctrl-option-space, the folder 
doesn’t open. Am I not using correct command to open this folder?

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Opening This Folder?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Group.

On my Doc, I have a folder -called downloads. Voiceover says 'to open this
folder, press ctrl-Option-space. When I press ctrl-option-space, the folder
doesn't open. Am I not using correct command to open this folder?

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Typed Character Echoes Twice?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, list.

I am not sure of what I have done today inadvertently, but now whenever I
type something, each typed character is echoed twice and that, indeed,
sounds very annoying. How can I fix this, please?

Thanks!

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Sharing Current Page?

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Hi, Group.

How can I share the current page that I am on in Safari?

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RE: Why Is Mac Not Reading It? FW: ब्रेकिंग न्यूज़ समाचार, ताजा खबर | News, latest news, breaking news - BBC News हिंदी

[Fazil M.]

Ok, let me look at it.
Thanks again.

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my mac reads it. it must be a setting some place. maybe in vo utility.

> On Feb 3, 2022, at 8:05 PM, Fazil M.  wrote:
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> Hi, Group.
> This is BBC Hindi website. iPhone is reading it in Hindi just fine, why is 
> Mac not reading it?
> I have added Hindi and Arabic in Voiceover Utility.
> Thanks!
> 
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> https://www.bbc.com/hindi
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Adding/Removing Languages?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Group.

I vaguely remembered that I added Hindi and Arabic to my languages when Mac
arrived sometimes ago.

I think I did something wrong at that time because Mac was reading Arabic
reasonably ok yesterday but it did not read Hindi today.

I was thinking of removing these two languages and adding them again but
removing option is dimmed in Voiceover Utility. I could not find Hindi in
the language table today. How can I remove and add them again, please?

Thanks!

 

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Hi, Group.
This is BBC Hindi website. iPhone is reading it in Hindi just fine, why is Mac 
not reading it?
I have added Hindi and Arabic in Voiceover Utility.
Thanks!

Subject: ब्रेकिंग न्यूज़ समाचार, ताजा खबर | News, latest news, breaking news - 
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https://www.bbc.com/hindi


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RE: Sharing Current Page?

[Fazil M.]

Actually, when I was thinking about sharing that webpage that I did, I did the 
same way that you have described in your message — Command-l, and command v.

Thanks!

 

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Are you saying that you press command-i within the email message or on the web 
page you want to share? I would assume that you would have email open as well 
as Safari if you were doing this. is that correct?





On Feb 3, 2022, at 9:56 PM, Jonathan Cohn mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hello,

If you want to share via e-mail (at least for me) the keystroke is command-I 
(eye)  will do this. 

Note once mail is launched and you are in the message, there should be a pop-up 
menu asking how you want to share. Choices might include 

FUll web page

PDF

Link 

Reader view 

 

For those sites where Safari has a reader view, it usually default to that.

Also, there is a "share button" in the tool bar of most applications including 
Safari and that there should also be a share sub-menu in the File menu .

 

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn







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Hi, Group.

How can I share the current page that I am on in Safari?

Thanks!

 

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RE: Sharing Current Page?

[Fazil M.]

Thanks much! I did just that last time but I thought that was a dirty quick 
way, there might be a suffisticated one too.

Thanks again.

 

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when you're on the page you want to share press command-l to open the address 
bar. vo reads the address of the page you're on. press command-c to copy it. 
then when you're writing an email or wherever else you're going to share, press 
command-v to paste it.





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Hi, Group.

How can I share the current page that I am on in Safari?

Thanks!

 

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Help With a Website?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Group.

I am trying to book a hotel at:

Booking.com.

I am able to enter the name of the city, check-in-&-check-out dates, number
of guests etc, but I am unable to read the room-rent of a chosen hotel.

Thanks!

Any help is much appreciated.

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New Window?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Group.

If a link opens in a new window, how can I come back to the previous window,
please?

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Authentication Is Not Responding?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Group.

In Catleena days, when the computer went to sleep mode after remaining idle
for a while, pressing arrow-keys several times and touching the power-button
used to start VoiceOver and awake the computer to fully functional state.

Since Montray, however, VoiceOver doesn't come up and the computer does not
come out of sleeping mode by pressing arrow keys repeatedly and by touching
the power button. VoiceOver starts only when I enter my password. The
computer doesn't work even when Voiceover is running. For instance, Safari
or TextEdit do not work at all and do not accept any keystrokes.

When I try to restart the computer from the menu, Voiceover says:

'Authentication Is Not Responding' and I have to shut down the computer and
restart it. This is simply a big pain in the neck.

Is this a normal and accepted behavior now?

Is there any work around it?

Thanks!

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RE: Authentication Is Not Responding?

[Fazil M.]

Thank you very much, Jonathan.

Just little more detail; should I go to Menu, System Preference and then where? 
To settings?

Thanks!

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Jonathan C. Cohn
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2022 2:26 PM
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Subject: Re: Authentication Is Not Responding?

 

This is not the way it should work. My computer is much older than yours, and 
so does not have a touchID power button. I suggest that you go into system 
settings and turn off and back on touchID and see if that helps solve your 
issue.  I have found that sometimes I am not having arrow keys perform right 
after sleep and I need to restart VoiceOver. 

r 

 

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On Jan 30, 2022, at 3:30 PM, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Hi, Group.

In Catleena days, when the computer went to sleep mode after remaining idle for 
a while, pressing arrow-keys several times and touching the power-button used 
to start VoiceOver and awake the computer to fully functional state.

Since Montray, however, VoiceOver doesn’t come up and the computer does not 
come out of sleeping mode by pressing arrow keys repeatedly and by touching the 
power button. VoiceOver starts only when I enter my password. The computer 
doesn’t work even when Voiceover is running. For instance, Safari or TextEdit 
do not work at all and do not accept any keystrokes.

When I try to restart the computer from the menu, Voiceover says:

‘Authentication Is Not Responding’ and I have to shut down the computer and 
restart it. This is simply a big pain in the neck.

Is this a normal and accepted behavior now?

Is there any work around it?

Thanks!

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RE: Voiceover is not coming on automatically at start up.

[Fazil M.]

Nor did I!

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2022 3:59 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voiceover is not coming on automatically at start up.

 

Hi Jason,

 

Well, I looked in the login options area and I cannot locate anything to talk 
about enabling voiceover there. I saw something in VO utilities where voiceover 
was unable to that’s checked, but I don’t see anything in the login and option 
screen.

 

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On Feb 5, 2022, at 12:35 PM, Les Kriegler mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hi Jason,

 

That might be the step I missed this time. I’m sure we did that the first time 
it happened. I will definitely check that out. Thank you.

Best,

Les

 

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On Feb 5, 2022, at 12:30 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
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Did you enable VoiceOver at startup under login preferences?

 

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Date: Saturday, 5February, 2022 at 17:16
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Subject: Voiceover is not coming on automatically at start up.

Hi all,

I have run into a problem for the second time this week. What is happening is 
it when I start up my Mac, VoiceOver does not come on at the logon prop for my 
password. I fixed it earlier this week when I called Apple accessibility, but I 
cannot recall the exact steps to take care of this again. Also, I don’t know 
why the setting isn’t holding. Essentially, I wanted to users and accounts and 
unlock the settings so that I could make changes. I went in the system 
preferences shows accessibility and check the box it said to display the 
welcome message while VoiceOver starts. But it’s not holding and obviously also 
not working. Can anybody advise me what I need to do? Thanks advance.
Best regards,
Les

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RE: Optimizing notification control with keyboard commander.

[Fazil M.]

Thank you very much, Jonathan. This, indeed, is a great tip but I would like 
the following elaborated some more, please!

“6. In the menu select general and then actions (First item in main menu and 
first item in general menu)”.

Thanks!

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Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2022 10:25 AM
To: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Optimizing notification control with keyboard commander.

 

Hello,

Most of you know that when keyboard commander is on you can press 
right-option-T to get the time. Well, now that actions are so important for 
managing our notifications in notification center, I suggest the following 
might be a useful configuration.

1. Open VoiceOver Utility 

2. Switch to the commanders area 

3. Press keyboard commander 

4. Press the add button (focus should be placed in an edit field )

5. Press A and then VO-Left 

6. In the menu select general and then actions (First item in main menu and 
first item in general menu)

7. Close Voiceover utility.

 

Now move to a notification and you can activate its menu with right-option A .

I find this a bit easier than VO-command-Space which is the default keybinding 
to execute the actions menu.

 

 

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



 

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Menu Extra Is Not Reporting Battery Status?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Group.

I have added a couple of supported languages in Language today.

Menu Extra is not reporting battery status ever since.

Does it have anything to do with adding languages?

Any help is much appreciated.

Thanks!

 

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RE: Reading Hindi By Character?

[Fazil M.]

Thank you very much, Tim.

I was able to read by character with Quick NAV off in Hindi, Arabic and English 
too.

Thanks!

 

 

From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2022 8:52 PM
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Subject: Re: Reading Hindi By Character?

 

Hi,

 

Try using VO-shift-left and right arrow to see if VO reads by character.

 

Later…

 


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Hi, Group.

I have just added Hindi as one of my preferred languages and Voiceover is 
reading hindi just fine.

I am able to read by word just fine, however, Voiceover is not reading by 
character. When I bring my roater on character and read with left/right arrows, 
Voiceover still reads by word, not by character.

Do I have to add Hindi keyboard for reading by character?

Thanks!

Thanks!

 

 

 

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User Authentication Required

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Group.

I asked this question before and I am asking it again because this time I
have some more information about it.

This problem started when I upgraded to Montray.

In Catlina days, when computer went to sleep, I used to press arrows keys
repeatedly with my finger on the fingerprint button, and the computer used
to awake with voiceover on.

Since I upgraded to Montray, when the computer goes to sleep, it does not
wake up with repeated pressing of arrow keys with my finger on power-button.
When I enter password, Voiceover comes up but does not work. When I press
VO-F1, Voiceover says:

'User Authentication Required'. Voiceover also says nothing under Voiceover.

When I try to restart the computer, voiceover says:

'Authentication Is not responding'. When I wait for a couple of minutes, the
computer restarts and everything remains fine until the computer remains
idle for sometime and goes to sleep. Then I have to repeat the drill.

Any help is much appreciated.

Thanks!

 

 

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RE: Adding a Language?

[Fazil M.]

I don’t like Lekha, so I guess I am ok with the other guy.

Thanks much for your help again.

 

From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2022 8:51 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Adding a Language?

 

Hi,

 

The only Hindi voices I’ve seen in VoiceOver are Lekha and Neel.  In the VO 
Utility, go to Speech, then VO-space on the current voice menu item, and down 
to Customize.  In the Search field, type Hindi, and you’ll find what they have 
to offer at this point in time.

 

Later…

 


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On Feb 8, 2022, at 18:36, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Thank you very much, Tim, I have successfully added Hindi and Voiceover is 
reading Hindi now!

Can I see whether we have more voices for Hindi? If yes, where can I see that, 
please?

Thanks again!

Thanks!

 

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Subject: Re: Adding a Language?

 

Hi,

 

It’s in System Preferences, Languages & Region.  You should have a button in 
this pane that says “Add a preferred language”.  A list of supported languages 
will come up in a table.  Hinki is one of them.  As my Mac read through them, 
it would read them out in their native tongue, then say Russian, or Hungarian, 
or Hindi etc.  Hindi is one of the languages within this table.  It does not 
appear to be alphabetical so you’ll likely have to go down a ways to find Hindi.

 

HTH.

 

Later…

 


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Jamf Certified Tech
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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On Feb 8, 2022, at 14:22, Fazil M. < <mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> 
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Hi, Group.

How can I add a language.

Sometimes ago, I tried to add Hindi in Voiceover Utility, Speech. I think I did 
not do everything right because my Mac was not reading Hindi webpages.

Yesterday, I took my Mac to Genius-bar. I think he was an Italian guy. I asked 
him to add Hindi in my Mac. He said a language is added here, I can see its 
symbol but I don’t know its name.

I could not find Hindi in the language list either.

How can a blind person add a language if he/she doesn’t find its name?

Thanks!

 

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Adding a Language?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Group.

How can I add a language.

Sometimes ago, I tried to add Hindi in Voiceover Utility, Speech. I think I
did not do everything right because my Mac was not reading Hindi webpages.

Yesterday, I took my Mac to Genius-bar. I think he was an Italian guy. I
asked him to add Hindi in my Mac. He said a language is added here, I can
see its symbol but I don't know its name.

I could not find Hindi in the language list either.

How can a blind person add a language if he/she doesn't find its name?

Thanks!

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RE: Adding a Language?

[Fazil M.]

Thank you very much, Tim, I have successfully added Hindi and Voiceover is 
reading Hindi now!

Can I see whether we have more voices for Hindi? If yes, where can I see that, 
please?

Thanks again!

Thanks!

 

From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries  
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2022 2:01 PM
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Subject: Re: Adding a Language?

 

Hi,

 

It’s in System Preferences, Languages & Region.  You should have a button in 
this pane that says “Add a preferred language”.  A list of supported languages 
will come up in a table.  Hinki is one of them.  As my Mac read through them, 
it would read them out in their native tongue, then say Russian, or Hungarian, 
or Hindi etc.  Hindi is one of the languages within this table.  It does not 
appear to be alphabetical so you’ll likely have to go down a ways to find Hindi.

 

HTH.

 

Later…

 


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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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Hi, Group.

How can I add a language.

Sometimes ago, I tried to add Hindi in Voiceover Utility, Speech. I think I did 
not do everything right because my Mac was not reading Hindi webpages.

Yesterday, I took my Mac to Genius-bar. I think he was an Italian guy. I asked 
him to add Hindi in my Mac. He said a language is added here, I can see its 
symbol but I don’t know its name.

I could not find Hindi in the language list either.

How can a blind person add a language if he/she doesn’t find its name?

Thanks!

 

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Reading Hindi By Character?

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Hi, Group.

I have just added Hindi as one of my preferred languages and Voiceover is
reading hindi just fine.

I am able to read by word just fine, however, Voiceover is not reading by
character. When I bring my roater on character and read with left/right
arrows, Voiceover still reads by word, not by character.

Do I have to add Hindi keyboard for reading by character?

Thanks!

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Command for Spelling Last Spoken Word?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Group.

When I am in a menu, I, sometimes, don't understand the spoken option word,
is there a voiceover command to spell last spoken word/phrase?

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RE: Command for Spelling Last Spoken Word?

[Fazil M.]

Thank you, Tim, it worked like a charm! You are a rescuer!

Thanks again.

 

From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries  
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Subject: Re: Command for Spelling Last Spoken Word?

 

Hi,

 

You should be able to do any of the following:

 

• navigate to the menu item, press VO-w once to hear it again, VO-w a second 
time to hear it spelled out, then VO-w a third time to hear it spelled out 
phonetically.  Pressing a fourth time will start the three options all over 
again.

 

Or

 

• switch the rotor to characters, then use down arrow to move character by 
character through the menu item.

 

Or

 

• press VO-shift-down to interact with the item, then press VO-shift-left or 
right to go through character by character.

 

HTH.

 

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Hi, Group.

When I am in a menu, I, sometimes, don’t understand the spoken option word, is 
there a voiceover command to spell last spoken word/phrase?

Thanks!

 

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RE: Should I assume Installed when being Downloaded?

[Fazil M.]

Thanks much, Tim. What should I do if I need to run the downloaded app after 
few days of download? Would this appear in Finder?

Thanks!

 

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Hi,

 

Yes.  In fact, the  button will change to “Open” from within the Mac App Store 
after the download and installation has completed.

 

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Hi, Group.

When I download an app from AppStore in iPhone, it is installed when downloaded 
and is ready to use.

Is it same in Mac? I mean when I download an app from AppStore, should I assume 
that the app is installed when download is complete and the app is ready to use?

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Should I assume Installed when being Downloaded?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Group.

When I download an app from AppStore in iPhone, it is installed when
downloaded and is ready to use.

Is it same in Mac? I mean when I download an app from AppStore, should I
assume that the app is installed when download is complete and the app is
ready to use?

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RE: Should I assume Installed when being Downloaded?

[Fazil M.]

Thanks much, Tim.

In the application Folder, apps are arranged in table form, isn’t it? 

Once I interact the table and arrow down to the required app, should I hit 
VO-Spacebar or should I stop interacting and open the app outside the table?

Thanks!

 

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Hi,

 

It will be in your Applications folder.  You can go to the Finder, or to the 
Desktop, then VO-m to the menubar, right to the Go menu, then down to 
Applications.  Alternatively, when on the Desktop or in the Finder, press 
cmd-shift-a to quickly open the Applications folder.

 

Later…

 


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On Feb 9, 2022, at 13:16, Fazil M. mailto:mfa...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Thanks much, Tim. What should I do if I need to run the downloaded app after 
few days of download? Would this appear in Finder?

Thanks!

 

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Hi,

 

Yes.  In fact, the  button will change to “Open” from within the Mac App Store 
after the download and installation has completed.

 

Later…

 


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Hi, Group.

When I download an app from AppStore in iPhone, it is installed when downloaded 
and is ready to use.

Is it same in Mac? I mean when I download an app from AppStore, should I assume 
that the app is installed when download is complete and the app is ready to use?

Thanks!

 

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What about VO-F-left-arrow?

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Subject: Safari. on Mac

is there any reliable way to go back to the top of a web page in Safari running 
Monterey? I used to use command-option up arrow but now that takes me to the 
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Mac Arabic Keyboard?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, Group.

When typing Arabic in Mac, how can I have the letters:

Daal & zaal?

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RE: VO-X Command?

[Fazil M.]

Thanks much, Jonathan!

What does VO-Accent do?

Thanks again.

 

 

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Nothing, unless you have set up activities.

Next Question: What are activities?

They are a way to customize how VO behaves. You can either link them to an app 
or a web page, or can activate them with the VO-X command.

 

 

Jonathan

 

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Hi, Group.

What does the command VO-X do (pressing once or twice)?

Thanks!

 

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RE: VO-X Command?

[Fazil M.]

About VO-Accent, it says moving windows and I don’t know what it means. Can a 
blind person use this command?

Thanks!

 

 

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What does VO-K say it does? 

Best wishes,

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Thanks much, Jonathan!

What does VO-Accent do?

Thanks again.

 

 

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Nothing, unless you have set up activities.

Next Question: What are activities?

They are a way to customize how VO behaves. You can either link them to an app 
or a web page, or can activate them with the VO-X command.

 

 

Jonathan

 

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn









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Hi, Group.

What does the command VO-X do (pressing once or twice)?

Thanks!

 

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External Drive for Mac?

[Fazil M.]

Hi, list.

Any recommendations for an external drive for Mac, please?

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RE: External Drive for Mac?

[Fazil M.]

So any drive can be used? There is no specific drive for Mac, right?

Thanks!

 

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 Almost any drive will work with the Mac. I have used several thumb drives and 
regular hard drives, one as new as a couple years a go and one that’s several 
years old and was frequently used on a Windows machine with no  problems.





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Hi, list.

Any recommendations for an external drive for Mac, please?

Thanks!

 

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