RE: [maemo-developers] Internet Search home applet

2006-11-13 Thread erik.b.karlsson
Hi,

>Can the search applet search a second directory in /usr/local? 
>Would be useful since before a reflash, a backup of /usr/local 
>would save these local modifications.
>

Currently the applet doesn't support any text, only icons. Also it only
search the location /usr/share/mis/...

The localization thing that you mentioned is something that should
definetly be implemented. 

BR,
- Erik

>Thanks,
>Rainer
>
>Am Montag, 13. November 2006 17:50 schrieb Tomas Junnonen:
>> ext Rainer Dorsch wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > some time ago, I asked for a way to search in Wikipedia via the 
>> > Internet search home applet. With the new OS2006, this seems to be 
>> > solved
>> >
>> >> Internet Search home applet
>> >> ---
>> >> o Pre-installed Wikipedia search engine added
>> >
>> > ALMOST.
>> >
>> >
>> > It seems not to care about localization. It searches in 
>the English 
>> > edition, though my 770 is localized for German.
>> >
>> > I am really wondering why we cannot configure this applet the way 
>> > konqueror can be configured to work with shortcuts, e.g.
>> >
>> > http://de.wikipedia.org/w/[EMAIL PROTECTED]&go=Go
>> >
>> > would solve my problem here in konqi.
>>
>> Take a look at the /usr/share/mis/wikipedia-search.xml file on the 
>> device. By changing the URL inside you'll be able to have a German 
>> Wikipedia search.
>>
>> You're also able add your own search engines by dropping xml 
>files in 
>> the directory. For convenience you could package the whole 
>thing in a 
>> deb with your own icons, and put it up for download.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Tomas
>
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Re: [maemo-developers] Java on the 770

2006-11-13 Thread Andrew Barr
On Monday 13 November 2006 20:45, Victor Toni wrote:
> Now that Java will be put under the GPL is there any plan (from Nokia)
> to integrate it into the firmware?
> People would be glad even without the proprietary Jazelle extensions.

Speaking of which, is this recent announcement any reason that we might 
finally get details on those? Or is ARM Ltd. going to continue to be asinine 
(IMHO) on that?

> And it would open the 770 to many more applications.
>
> Kindest regards,
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[maemo-developers] Java on the 770

2006-11-13 Thread Victor Toni
Now that Java will be put under the GPL is there any plan (from Nokia) 
to integrate it into the firmware?

People would be glad even without the proprietary Jazelle extensions.
And it would open the 770 to many more applications.

Kindest regards,
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Re: [maemo-developers] Internet Search home applet

2006-11-13 Thread Mikhail Sobolev
Hi Rainer

On Sun, Nov 12, 2006 at 07:53:51PM +0100, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
> It seems not to care about localization. It searches in the English edition, 
> though my 770 is localized for German.
That sounds like a very interesting _new_ feature  :)

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Re: [maemo-developers] Internet Search home applet

2006-11-13 Thread Rainer Dorsch
Hi Tomas,

that is pretty cool, thanks.

Can the search applet display text, in case there is not meaningful logo 
(yet)?

Can the search applet search a second directory in /usr/local? Would be useful 
since before a reflash, a backup of /usr/local would save these local 
modifications.

Thanks,
Rainer

Am Montag, 13. November 2006 17:50 schrieb Tomas Junnonen:
> ext Rainer Dorsch wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > some time ago, I asked for a way to search in Wikipedia via the Internet
> > search home applet. With the new OS2006, this seems to be solved
> >
> >> Internet Search home applet
> >> ---
> >> o Pre-installed Wikipedia search engine added
> >
> > ALMOST.
> >
> >
> > It seems not to care about localization. It searches in the English
> > edition, though my 770 is localized for German.
> >
> > I am really wondering why we cannot configure this applet the way
> > konqueror can be configured to work with shortcuts, e.g.
> >
> > http://de.wikipedia.org/w/[EMAIL PROTECTED]&go=Go
> >
> > would solve my problem here in konqi.
>
> Take a look at the /usr/share/mis/wikipedia-search.xml file on the
> device. By changing the URL inside you'll be able to have a German
> Wikipedia search.
>
> You're also able add your own search engines by dropping xml files in
> the directory. For convenience you could package the whole thing in a
> deb with your own icons, and put it up for download.
>
> Regards,
> Tomas

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[maemo-developers] WMA streaming

2006-11-13 Thread Andrew Barr
Hello,

What are my options for Windows Media Audio streams on the 770? Most Internet 
radio streams (I mean simulcasts of real broadcasts in this sense) are 
offered in (at least) this format, which is supported by free software 
(ffmpeg) up to version 2, the latest version I've ever seen anywhere. 
However, no one seems to have had any luck with third-party codecs on this 
device, much less for streaming. Is this device powerful enough to handle 
decoding audio streams using C or ARM-assembly codecs (from ffmpeg)? It's 
likely that the bitstream would be 16 to 24 kbps. I understand free tools for 
the DSP aren't quite there yet, so that may not be an option.

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Re:[maemo-developers] Webkit

2006-11-13 Thread Philippe De Swert
Hi!

> I would like to propose something. I don't know if it can already be
> done or if someone is working on it, but i would like to see Webkit
> running inside Maemo/Nokia 770. Opera, I think, consumes a lot of memory
> for simple browsing, and since Nokia contributes to the Unity/Webkit
> platform maybe there are plans for including it in future versions of
> the Internet OS as there is for the S60 series mobile phones.

Well gpe-mini-browser actually uses a derivative of Webkit called gtk-webcore.
Unfortunately gtk-webcore is in some weird *maybe* we continue development
state atm and I haven't made the effort yet of getting gpe-mini-browser to
work on the new OS edition so you cannot try it yet. (It worked relatively
well on the old version of the software despite the relative unstability of
gtk-webcore).

I heard that the webkit developers were actually adding some gtk code, but it
is relatively new and barely usable (I could personally not find out how the
little gtk related code that was added could be used). If that happens nothing
will stop people from making a webkit browser for the 770. So if somebody
would push that in the right directions that would be really nice.

Regards,

Philippe

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[maemo-developers] Webkit

2006-11-13 Thread Iñigo Illán




Hello!

I would like to propose something. I don't know if it can already be done or if someone is working on it, but i would like to see Webkit running inside Maemo/Nokia 770. Opera, I think, consumes a lot of memory for simple browsing, and since Nokia contributes to the Unity/Webkit platform maybe there are plans for including it in future versions of the Internet OS as there is for the S60 series mobile phones.


Bye!


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[maemo-developers] FlashPlayer and Opera updates?

2006-11-13 Thread Simon Moore
I don't suppose there is an updated flashplayer anywhere? 7 or better 
(or source code to compile one).  All I can find is pre-compiled .SO 
for x86 Linux (7 and 9beta).


On that note are there any plans to update Opera in future OS 
releases? - I checked with Opera and they say only Nokia can release 
updates to Opera on Nokia 770 (i.e. you can't buy an upgrade).  Could 
really do with version 8.5 or better for more complete AJAX support 
(Maemo does it, but is not really production ready as a browser, 
having said that Opera crashes quite a bit too for no apparent reason).


Regards
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Re: [maemo-developers] Unresolved issues (Week 45)

2006-11-13 Thread George Farris
On Mon, 2006-13-11 at 11:47 +0200, Tommi Komulainen wrote:
> Here is a list of issues raised on this list I think have not been
> concluded so far, in no particular order. The easiest way to get off the
> list is to provide answers, but you can also try convincing me other
> ways.

Please also include working Bluetooth headset support or lack there of.
http://maemo.org/maemowiki/BluetoothHeadset


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Re: [maemo-developers] Internet Search home applet

2006-11-13 Thread Tomas Junnonen
ext Rainer Dorsch wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> some time ago, I asked for a way to search in Wikipedia via the Internet 
> search home applet. With the new OS2006, this seems to be solved
> 
>> Internet Search home applet
>> ---
>> o Pre-installed Wikipedia search engine added
> 
> 
> ALMOST.
> 
> 
> It seems not to care about localization. It searches in the English edition, 
> though my 770 is localized for German.
> 
> I am really wondering why we cannot configure this applet the way konqueror 
> can be configured to work with shortcuts, e.g.
> 
> http://de.wikipedia.org/w/[EMAIL PROTECTED]&go=Go
> 
> would solve my problem here in konqi.

Take a look at the /usr/share/mis/wikipedia-search.xml file on the
device. By changing the URL inside you'll be able to have a German
Wikipedia search.

You're also able add your own search engines by dropping xml files in
the directory. For convenience you could package the whole thing in a
deb with your own icons, and put it up for download.

Regards,
Tomas
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Re: [maemo-developers] Hints for using Valgrind tools in Scratchbox

2006-11-13 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 02:35:48PM +0100, José Dapena Paz wrote:
>   Some hints for using valgrind tools in Scratchbox+Maemo.



This is great!  Somebody ought to(TM) put this up into the Maemo wiki.

I assume valgrind works only in the x86 target?

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[maemo-developers] Please include osso-media.server ogg probs (was: Unresolved issues (Week 45))

2006-11-13 Thread Sebastian Spaeth

Hi Tommi,
I'd like to include "Ogg support via gstreamer plugin does not work as 
documented". (see my thread "summary of my ogg adventures from last 
week"). The problem is that if you follow the installation/configuration 
instructions from the maemo.org website 
(http://maemo.org/platform/docs/multimedia/getting_started.html), 
playing ogg files will just result in a 100% CPU usage freeze. Thanks


Sebastian.
---

Update from Internettablettalk. It seems the gconf instructions on the 
above website for the osso_media_server are borked. N770-Freak writes:


"I've installed gstreamer with debug mode and evaluated the output.
The ogg file isn't handled like the gconf entry's default. The gconf 
entry gives the rule to demux,decode ogg files with tremor and to use 
the dsppcmsink. [application/ogg,tremor,dsppcmsink]
But the osso-media-server grabs the ogg file and connects it to 
"ivorbisfile" (it doesn't even load the dsppcmsink).


So I have tried to manipulate other gconf entries that belong to the
osso-media-server but with no success. Theoretically it should be 
possible to disable/break mp3 playback (for example) with a broken x-id3 
entry in the gconf?! But every manipulation of the gconf seems to have 
no effect to the osso-media-server!


Has someone more experience with the gconf (and perhaps the 
osso-media-server)???"


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[maemo-developers] Hints for using Valgrind tools in Scratchbox

2006-11-13 Thread José Dapena Paz
Hi,

Some hints for using valgrind tools in Scratchbox+Maemo.

First, standard way to use valgrind and gdb. af-sb-init.sh supports
parameters for using these tools with a piece of software we want to
study:

af-sb-init.sh start --valgrind=my_app
af-sb-init.sh start --gdb=my_app

Valgrind will store the results in /tmp/valgrind-my_app.log*. Gdb will
show its prompt on load of my_app. This way you can debug/valgrind the
program you want.

An interesting example would be: "I want to valgrind my status bar
applet". And this is easy:
af-sb-init.sh start --valgrind=maemo_af_desktop

You'll get the results in /tmp/valgrind-maemo_af_desktop.log*

If you want to run other valgrind tools, you would better use these
environment variables:
* VALGRINDCMD: the command you want to run inside valgrind.
* VALGRIND: the valgrind command and parameters.

For example, if you want to run massif of maemo_af_desktop, you would
run:
export VALGRINDCMD=maemo_af_desktop
export VALGRIND="valgrind --tool=massif --num-callers=50
--trace-children=yes --depth=5 --format=html --log-file=/tmp/massif
--alloc-fn=g_malloc --alloc-fn=g_malloc0 --alloc-fn=g_realloc
--alloc-fn=g_slice_alloc --alloc-fn=g_try_malloc
--alloc-fn=g_slice_alloc0"
af-sb-init.sh start
... do your stuff ...
af-sb-init.sh stop

And you'll get your massif reports in /tmp (logs) and $PWD (html and
postscripts).


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Re: [maemo-developers] Unresolved issues (Week 45)

2006-11-13 Thread Patrik Flykt

Hi,

On Mon, 2006-11-13 at 11:47 +0200, ext Tommi Komulainen wrote:
>   * http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-November/006033.html
> Connectivity API: ( osso_iap_connect() ), cannot see generated
> events
> 
> Nothing immediately wrong in the code. Needs more details.
> http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-November/006097.html

Issue resolved by calling 'osso_initialize()' before osso_iap_*
functions.

Regards,

Patrik

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[maemo-developers] Unresolved issues (Week 45)

2006-11-13 Thread Tommi Komulainen
Here is a list of issues raised on this list I think have not been
concluded so far, in no particular order. The easiest way to get off the
list is to provide answers, but you can also try convincing me other
ways.

This is an attempt to improve our communication by providing a short
summary reminder for busy people to act on. I'll try to keep up with the
experiment for a few weeks and see what happens.


  * http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-October/005760.html
Keeping the softkeypad from going away.
5th mention

"How can you keep the softkeypad from going away in a hildon
application written in python?"

  * http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-October/005797.html
building an application with custom kernel-headers
4th mention

gcc (/scratchbox/compilers/bin/sb_gcc_wrapper) can't find a
definition from custom kernel-headers? Works with pure arm
compiler.

  * http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-October/005787.html
End-user roadmap?
4th mention

What's the future with the 770? When is the next Maemo or IT
(2006) OS release planned? When are end users going to see an
update?

(Software update was released 2nd November. No mention of
roadmap.)

  * http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-October/005813.html
Maemo and Ubuntu Edgy: Is it safe?
(USB API changed in Edgy. As a result the flasher stopped
working.)
4th mention

"Why is the flasher not open source?"

(One possible explanation is the cold flashing feature which
might require (possibly TI proprietary) ROM code:
http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-October/005990.html)

  * http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-November/006027.html
Scary message at the end of flashing
2nd mention

Sending request 0x83 failed: Invalid or incomplete multibyte or
wide character -- what does that mean?

  * http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-October/005985.html
MMC - multiblock writes
2nd mention

Does OMAP 1710 support multiblock writes safely?

  * http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-November/006151.html
preferred application

How does file manager select which application to open a given
file with?

  * http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-November/006152.html
extras packages for sardine

Is there any way to upload extras packages for use with sardine,
instead of just mistral?


Not sure if these were completely resolved. Needs more information from
the original authors if these didn't answer their questions.

  * http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-October/005976.html
Proper version of scratchbox? suse 9.2?

Scratchbox Apophis is not affected by the 2.6.18 bug.
http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-November/006101.html

  * http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-November/006033.html
Connectivity API: ( osso_iap_connect() ), cannot see generated
events

Nothing immediately wrong in the code. Needs more details.
http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-November/006097.html


Resolved since last week:

  * http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-October/005827.html
spam at maemo wiki

Pages attracting the most spam (FrontPage, HowDoiBecomeRoot) are
editable only by registered users. Seems to have fixed the spam
problem.
http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-November/006096.html

  * http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-October/005947.html
Not getting bugzilla notifications

Should be working now:
http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-November/006096.html

  * http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-November/006030.html
New Nokia 770 software image available

2G MMC patch is included in the IT2006 upgrade:
http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-November/006104.html

High speed MMC patch is not:
http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-November/006105.html

  * http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-November/006046.html
where is the busybox source?

Busybox sources will be available in the soon to be released
maemo sdk:
http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-November/006091.html


Thanks to Ferenc, Frantisek, Marius, Patrik, Riku, and TranVan.


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Re: [maemo-developers] RE: Boot to a different look?

2006-11-13 Thread Tapani Pälli
ext Ng, Cheon-woei wrote:
> Hi Tapani,
>
> I was able to create a simple program with buttons that would invoke other 
> programs.  When any program is in normal view mode, using 'matchbox-remote 
> -next/-prev' would navigate through the programs.  However, once programs are 
> minimized, the matchbox-remote function does not switch to those minimized 
> programs.  
>
> Without using Maemo's Desktop, may I know a good way to keep track of 
> minimized programs?  Is there a function call or script that would reactivate 
> a minimized program to full screen again?  
>
>   

Windows have a property called WM_STATE which has information wheter window is 
iconic, normal or withdrawn. You can query the window tree (XQueryTree) and 
request a window (which has 'iconic' window state) to be mapped/raised.



> Thank you very much for help.
>
> Sincerely,
> Cheon-Woei Ng
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tapani Pälli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 11:36 PM
> To: Ng, Cheon-woei
> Cc: Michael Kostrzewa; maemo-developers@maemo.org
> Subject: Re: [maemo-developers] RE: Boot to a different look?
>
> ext Ng, Cheon-woei wrote:
>   
>> Thanks for all the suggestions.  Yesterday, I was working on exactly what 
>> Tapani suggested.  I am glad that I am going to the right direction.  
>>
>> I adjusted the bootup script yesterday and was able to boot to any program I 
>> want.  Now I will try making my own program that shows the icons.  
>>
>> There is one issue that I encountered without the maemo-af-desktop.  For 
>> example, once I minimized a program, I could not get the program back 
>> anymore without restart af-sb-init.sh.  I may have to make all programs not 
>> minimized able and only exit able.   
>>
>>   
>> 
>
> With 'matchbox-remote -next/-prev' you can switch between available
> application windows. You can also map these actions to hw-keys by
> creating/editing a file '/etc/matchbox/kbdconfig', check
> http://projects.o-hand.com/matchbox/documentation/manual/wm.html#wmkeys
> for examples.
>
>   
>> I might also follow Michael's suggestion as an alternative solution if I am 
>> stuck.  
>>
>> Thanks again!
>>
>> Woei
>>
>>   
>> 
>
> // Tapani
>
>   

// Tapani

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