Re: [maemo-developers] [maemo-announce] Nokia Developer Device Program

2007-01-08 Thread Frantisek Dufka

Detlef Schmicker wrote:

Hello,

how do we apply?



It was discussed on #maemo and it looks like noone should apply. 
Developers will be chosen by maemo team. See the archive 
http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog


I hope people who got N770 in developer device program before won't be 
excluded because of this :-)


Frantisek
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Re: [maemo-developers] [maemo-announce] Nokia Developer Device Program

2007-01-08 Thread Martin Grimme

Hi,

Frantisek Dufka schrieb:

Detlef Schmicker wrote:

Hello,

how do we apply?



It was discussed on #maemo and it looks like noone should apply. 
Developers will be chosen by maemo team. See the archive 
http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog


I hope people who got N770 in developer device program before won't be 
excluded because of this :-)


When will the chosen ones be informed? Will it be announced on the
mailing list when the program closes?


Regards,
Martin
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Re: [maemo-developers] [maemo-announce] Nokia Developer Device Program

2007-01-08 Thread alessandro pasotti

An important detail is *when* the lucky people will be notified?

I hope people who DID NOT got N770 in developer device program before won't
be
excluded because of this :-)


2007/1/8, Frantisek Dufka [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Detlef Schmicker wrote:
 Hello,

 how do we apply?


It was discussed on #maemo and it looks like noone should apply.
Developers will be chosen by maemo team. See the archive
http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog

I hope people who got N770 in developer device program before won't be
excluded because of this :-)

Frantisek
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[maemo-developers] maemo_af_desktop[7236]: We could not read lowmem page stats.

2007-01-08 Thread Sampath Goud

Hi,

I have created a simple SDL application (hellosdl), compiled and created a
.deb package in scratchbox. I started xephyr, and the GUI window opened
fine. But when I try to open my installed SDL application, I get a revolving
icon message hellosdl - loading and after few seconds it is lost and
nothing happens.
In scratchbox command prompt I get an error as below:
maemo_af_desktop[7236]: We could not read lowmem page stats.

When I run the same application in the 770, I get the same revolving icon
message hellosdl - loading and after few seconds it is lost and nothing
happens.

Please help me.

Thanks and Regards,
Sampath

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[maemo-developers] Developer Device Program Application

2007-01-08 Thread Johan Euphrosine
I'm looking forward being part of the Developer Device Program,
to port 'poker2d', our free software multiplayer poker game to maemo plateform.

See: http://pokersource.info/ for reference
Our software is already shipped in well known Linux distribution such as
Debian GNU/Linux:
http://packages.debian.org/unstable/python/python-poker2d
Ubuntu GNU/Linux:
http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/python/python-poker2d
And available from our repository for Fedora and Gentoo:
http://pokersource.info/developers/index.php

We'll be glad to add a maemo device like the N800 to our supported target.

See: https://gna.org/projects/pokersource/
for sources and developer centric information.

See: http://pokersource.info/screenshots/newskin/
for screenshots.

Thanks in advance.
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RE: [maemo-developers] maemo_af_desktop[7236]: We could not read lowmempage stats.

2007-01-08 Thread Jakub.Pavelek
Hi,
 
this is not related to the maemo-af-desktop message. Most likely the way
you launch it on the device is not correct (e.g. incorrectly formed
desktop or service file).
 
Br,
 
--jakub




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Subject: [maemo-developers] maemo_af_desktop[7236]: We could not
read lowmempage stats.


Hi,

I have created a simple SDL application (hellosdl), compiled and
created a .deb package in scratchbox. I started xephyr, and the GUI
window opened fine. But when I try to open my installed SDL application,
I get a revolving icon message hellosdl - loading and after few
seconds it is lost and nothing happens. 
In scratchbox command prompt I get an error as below:
maemo_af_desktop[7236]: We could not read lowmem page stats.

When I run the same application in the 770, I get the same
revolving icon message hellosdl - loading and after few seconds it is
lost and nothing happens. 

Please help me.

Thanks and Regards,
Sampath

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[maemo-developers] Nokia Developer Device Program

2007-01-08 Thread Nicolas FR

Hi,

I am new to the list. I am a Sharp Zaurus user and hobbyist
developper (see http://www.geek-fr.com 
http://sharpromfeed.home.linuxtogo.org) willing to switch to the Nokia
N800. I was waiting for the new device for a long time because I
needed extra RAM and CPU for the task I was planning to use the Nokia
for (I want to port Evolution because of the MS Exchange connector
support and also want to port some tools like Wicrawler).

My question is: do newcomers like me can apply (I know I do not have
to apply, just be chosen) to the huge discount offered through the
Nokia Developer Device Program?

Thanks,
Nicolas.
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Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Translate Canola to your language!

2007-01-08 Thread Simon Opelt
Hi

 Please mail me before translating, or your job may be lost :-(

I normally think the world should get used to english software, movies,..
but I would like to do a german translation (I am from Austria; german is
native language) of canola, if no one else is up for it yet.

br

Simon

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Re: [maemo-developers] Nokia's Linux-powered N800 Internet Tablet sneaks out early

2007-01-08 Thread Daniel Stone
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 09:52:12AM +0200, ext Siarhei Siamashka wrote:
 Also the following line from dmesg log caugth my eye on #maemo irc channel:
 [8044.496856] omapfb omapfb: s1d1374x: setting update mode to disabled
 
 Does N800 also use Epson video chip just like N770? Could it be be some
 upgraded version? Something like S1D13745 chip with hardware scaling support:
 http://www.erd.epson.com/index.php?option=com_docmantask=cat_viewgid=38Itemid=40
 
 OMAP2420 is supposed to have 2D/3D accelerator on chip. Is it disabled and
 can't be used at all (using Epson chip instead for better compatibility with
 existing software developed for N770)?

The X server now provides the standard Xv (X Video) extension, so just
use that instead, and things get a whole lot less complicated.  It's not
as wildly quick as it should be at the moment, but that's being actively
worked on.

Cheers,
Daniel
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Re: [maemo-developers] Translate Canola to your language!

2007-01-08 Thread Koen Kooi
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Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri schreef:

 I hope to see your language in next canola! :-)

I hope to see the next release of canola to be opensource!


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Re: [maemo-developers] Nokia's Linux-powered N800 Internet Tablet sneaks out early

2007-01-08 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 09:52:12AM +0200, Siarhei Siamashka wrote:
 Also I wonder about DSP clock frequency for both N770 and N800. ARM core is
 clocked at 250MHz in N770

http://maemo.org/faq/faq.html#faq-N10129 says it was 220 MHz in the 770.

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Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Translate Canola to your language!

2007-01-08 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri

On 1/8/07, Simon Opelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi

 Please mail me before translating, or your job may be lost :-(

I normally think the world should get used to english software, movies,..
but I would like to do a german translation (I am from Austria; german is
native language) of canola, if no one else is up for it yet.


Hi Simon,

I also use english software myself, but many don't, so we do the
translations :-)

I'm waiting for your German translation! Do you know how to do it? Are
you familiar with gettext? Mail me if you have any questions.

BTW, pay attention to phrases and single words, try to guess the
context they show (po files have the source code file, it's not that
good, but may provide hints). Brazilian portuguese have some problems
with objects and other non-personal having gender... So All can be
translated to both male or female, depending on the context.


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Re: [maemo-developers] Nokia's Linux-powered N800 Internet Tablet sneaks out early

2007-01-08 Thread Charles 'Buck' Krasic
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Great!3.0 sounds better all the time.

- -- Buck

Daniel Stone wrote:


 The X server now provides the standard Xv (X Video) extension, so
 just use that instead, and things get a whole lot less complicated.
 It's not as wildly quick as it should be at the moment, but that's
 being actively worked on.

 Cheers, Daniel


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Re: [maemo-developers] [maemo-announce] Nokia Developer Device Program

2007-01-08 Thread Kai Schindelka

Frantisek Dufka wrote:

how do we apply?


It was discussed on #maemo and it looks like noone should apply. 
Developers will be chosen by maemo team. See the archive 
http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog


I hope people who got N770 in developer device program before won't be 
excluded because of this :-)


That's my hope, too. It would be too sad to be excluded. Even if I've 
been admittedly very busy otherwise during the last year, I've been 
following these lists closely. This year's going to look much better

in terms of spare time, and the N800 seems like a great device (the
770 already is), so...

I'd love to try to connect it to our in-house VOIP gateway. Since that 
is a commercial product, it'd be fun to see if it works. Currently I'm 
using the 770 as a pocket monitor for our central Nagios server, besides 
many other things not directly related to work, of course. ;) Would love 
to expand this admin-tool functionality further.


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[maemo-developers] Building 'maemo 3.0' against stock base libraries

2007-01-08 Thread Koen Kooi
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Hi,

Since Nokia decided that my n770 is unworthy of OS2007[1], I wanted to see how 
much
trouble it is to compile the various maemo3 components against a stock
gtk/cairo/esound/dbus/etc and run that on my 770.

* hildon-base-libs built fine (yay!)
* hildon-libs errored out with an implicit declaration of 
gtk_style_lookup_logical_color
(booo, hiss!), which according to http://maemo.org/maemowiki/MaemoGtk210Changes 
is to
provide old hidon logical color API.

So, before I go on a quest to get it working and waste a lot of time that could 
have been
spent on the control engineering course, I wanted to ask a few questions:

* is hildon-libs going to depend on old hildon API forever?
* if so, can someone comment on the bad thing that would happen if I rip those 
parts out
* is there a configure option/patch available to stop using old hildon API 
stuff?

regards,

Koen

[1] http://jaaksi.blogspot.com/2007/01/more-from-vegas.html
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Re: [maemo-developers] Nokia Developer Device Program

2007-01-08 Thread Jac Kersing

On Mon, 8 Jan 2007, Kai Schindelka wrote:

  I hope people who got N770 in developer device program before won't 

be

  excluded because of this :-)

That's my hope, too. It would be too sad to be excluded. Even if I've 

been

admittedly very busy otherwise during the last year, I've been following
these lists closely. This year's going to look much better
in terms of spare time, and the N800 seems like a great device (the
770 already is), so...


I think everyone subscribed to the developer list (and then some) would 
like to be included. So the only thing we can do is cross our fingers...


I've been trying to find the time to get at least some Java VM running on 
my N770, the new JavaME release looks like a good candidate so we get at 
least MIDP. I'll be looking into the procedure posted earlier today for 
sure (JAVA on Nokia 770: simple and easy!

http://sebas-nokia770.blogspot.com/2006/12/java-on-nokia-770-simple-and-easy
.html), may-be the problem has been solved already :-)

Best regards,

Jac

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Re: [maemo-developers] Building 'maemo 3.0' against stock base libraries

2007-01-08 Thread Andrew J. Barr
On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 23:57 +0100, Koen Kooi wrote:
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 Hi,
 
 Since Nokia decided that my n770 is unworthy of OS2007[1], I wanted to see 
 how much
 trouble it is to compile the various maemo3 components against a stock
 gtk/cairo/esound/dbus/etc and run that on my 770.

bitter sarcasm Wonderful. Good job, Nokia./bitter sarcasm

Obviously I wasn't around for the Sharp Zaurus developer experience, but
this seems to be a silly thing for Nokia to do. This thing was upwards
of $350! What do you mean there's no OS upgrade for it?? Honestly!

 * hildon-base-libs built fine (yay!)
 * hildon-libs errored out with an implicit declaration of 
 gtk_style_lookup_logical_color
 (booo, hiss!), which according to 
 http://maemo.org/maemowiki/MaemoGtk210Changes is to
 provide old hidon logical color API.
 
 So, before I go on a quest to get it working and waste a lot of time that 
 could have been
 spent on the control engineering course, I wanted to ask a few questions:
 
 * is hildon-libs going to depend on old hildon API forever?
 * if so, can someone comment on the bad thing that would happen if I rip 
 those parts out
 * is there a configure option/patch available to stop using old hildon API 
 stuff?

I obviously know next to nothing compared to you and your OpenEmbedded
cohorts, but how much trouble would it be to throw out Maemo all
together and use OpenEmbedded on the 770...with GPE, or Opie II whenever
that's ready. OpenEmbedded has a LOT more software available for it in a
central location, whereas the 770 experience has been random bloggers
(myself included) hacking together .debs in Scratchbox. Obviously we'd
have to keep a few proprietary things...probably the non-free kernel
modules and (maybe) the Xomap server (is that free/libre? I don't know).
But from what I know I don't see any reason why we can't junk the rest
of it and use whatever suits our fancies.

Andrew

 regards,
 
 Koen
 
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Re: [maemo-developers] Nokia Developer Device Program

2007-01-08 Thread Kai Schindelka

Jac Kersing wrote:
I think everyone subscribed to the developer list (and then some) would 
like to be included. So the only thing we can do is cross our fingers...


I already do, everyone else included. :)

I've been trying to find the time to get at least some Java VM running 
on my N770, the new JavaME release looks like a good candidate so we get 
at least MIDP. I'll be looking into the procedure posted earlier today 
for sure (JAVA on Nokia 770: simple and easy!
http://sebas-nokia770.blogspot.com/2006/12/java-on-nokia-770-simple-and-easy 
.html), may-be the problem has been solved already :-)


That would be great. There is a Java based character generation tool for 
the role-playing game The Dark Eye which would come handy if it would 
run on the 770.


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Re: [maemo-developers] Translate Canola to your language!

2007-01-08 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri

On 1/8/07, Koen Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri schreef:

 I hope to see your language in next canola! :-)

I hope to see the next release of canola to be opensource!


not this next one, but I hope some point in future we get out managers
to let us do that... maybe you should put some extra pressure :-)


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RE: [maemo-developers] [maemo-announce] Nokia Developer Device Program

2007-01-08 Thread Carlos.Guerreiro
 It was discussed on #maemo and it looks like noone should apply. 
 Developers will be chosen by maemo team. See the archive 
 http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog

Yes, there is no need to apply. However, making your work visible
should help.
 
 I hope people who got N770 in developer device program before 
 won't be 
 excluded because of this :-)

That will not be the case. Having participated in the 770 developer
program is neither a precondition nor an impediment for the N800
developer program.
Nokia will invite developers based on their Maemo/770 related activities.
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RE: [maemo-developers] [maemo-announce] Nokia Developer Device Program

2007-01-08 Thread Carlos.Guerreiro

  I hope people who got N770 in developer device program 
 before won't be 
  excluded because of this :-)

They will not be excluded.
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RE: [maemo-developers] Nokia's Linux-powered N800 Internet Tabletsneaks out early

2007-01-08 Thread Carlos.Guerreiro
 Not that we're going to get one word out of a @nokia.com 
 address for the
 time being...but they'd better not stop releasing FW updates and
 developing for the 770. Maemo isn't open enough for the community to
 maintain the software for the 770.
 

The 770 with OS2006 is still supported by Nokia.
OS2007 will not be released for the 770.
Unfortunately we are not at the point where we can ship the same
OS release for multiple hardwares, though we are moving in that direction.

Perhaps some kind of OS2006/OS2007 combination will turn out to be practical
for hacking on the 770, though again, an end-user ready release is not in the 
cards.
Herring and Sardine (Herring is synced with OS2007/Maemo Bora) already give you
Bora (and post-Bora) in the limited context of the HAF.
Let's see how much we can improve on that.
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