How to get a program window into the task/window switcher?
From: Faheem Pervez tripp...@gmail.com Date: Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 4:00 PM Subject: Re: How to get a program window into the task/window switcher? To: Martin Wegner martinator...@arcor.de Hello, Here's a SDL example: Building and running http://olofson.net/download/parallax-2.tar.gz and pressing home only shows me the terminal I started it with: http://i42.tinypic.com/124wyub.png sdlonly For SDL (and SDL only) , you have to add a putenv(SDL_VIDEO_X11_WMCLASS=app); because SDL under Maemo seems to report the same WMCLASS for every SDL app. So I've added putenv(SDL_VIDEO_X11_WMCLASS=parallax); above SDL_Init(SDL_INIT_VIDEO); and this forces the WMCLASS of this app to be parallax. Other apps usually have a correct WMClass. /sdlonly Now, if I start the SDL demo on the N800 and run xprop over SSH and tap on my window, I get the following output: http://pastebin.com/mc90995a I do not know where a packaged version of xprop is available for diablo - I compiled my binary on the tablet. Looking at the highlighted line in the pastebin output, the WMCLASS is parallax (ignore the second parallax in quotes - the first pair of quotes is the value needed). Now, the next step is to make a desktop file. I've saved this file as /usr/share/applications/hildon/parallax2.desktop. Here is the one I've quickly made for parallax: http://pastebin.com/m66ba244f Notice that the argument given to StartupWMClass is the same as the WMClass output given from xprop. And, lo and behold, I get my icon shown: http://i39.tinypic.com/avllrn.png (Ignore that the window title is shown as unknown - this is something specific to SDL under Maemo) Some hints regarding the desktop file: - The Name field you will want to name properly as it's the name shown in the application menu and it's also shown when you tap and hold on the application's entry in the application switcher on the left. - If you have no intention of running it from the menu, you can remove the Exec field and add NoDisplay=true to the desktop file. As long as the desktop file is there, the icon will still show regardless of not having an exec field and it will still show even if you choose not to display the desktop file entry in the application manager. Best Regards :), Faheem On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Martin Wegner martinator...@arcor.dewrote: Hello, thank you for your answer :) But I must admit you that I don't understand your recommendation :( Can you make a little example, please? Thank you so much! Greatings, Martin Faheem Pervez schrieb: You can use xprop to get the WMClass of the application and make a desktop file and add the WMClass given to the StartupWMClass argument in the desktop file. It's done with SDL apps and some Xlib apps to get the icon shown. BR On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Martin Wegner martinator.de http://martinator.de@arcor.de http://arcor.de wrote: Hello, my Java AWT/Swing programs don't appear in the task/window switcher when I use openjdk-6-cacao-jre from the Jalimo project. I have the same problem when I use Sun Java SE for Embedded 6u10 headful version. Is there a way to put a program window into the task/window switcher? Thank you for your help! Greatings, Martin ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org mailto:maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: How to get a program window into the task/window switcher?
And, lo and behold, I get my icon shown: http://i39.tinypic.com/avllrn.png (Ignore that the window title is shown as unknown - this is something specific to SDL under Maemo) Ah how I hate that bug - makes pygame apps looking so amateurish. Checking Bugzilla, I believe no one ever reported that issue. Any comments? Shall I still report it or is it FiF anyway? Kind regards -Tom ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: How to get a program window into the task/window switcher?
Not sure, I can't even bring up a task switcher in the Alpha Fremantle SDK! For C programs, Mikkov made the following code which works a treat for SDL stuff: http://wiki.maemo.org/Game_development#Set_the_window_title Dunno how you'd get a python equivalent (I built python-xlib and fixed it up to work in Diablo in hope it could be used to do the same but I could never see a way to do so...) Can't hurt reporting it as you'll get an answer as to whether it's fixed anyway :) Best Regards, Faheem On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Thomas Wälti twae...@gmail.com wrote: And, lo and behold, I get my icon shown: http://i39.tinypic.com/avllrn.png (Ignore that the window title is shown as unknown - this is something specific to SDL under Maemo) Ah how I hate that bug - makes pygame apps looking so amateurish. Checking Bugzilla, I believe no one ever reported that issue. Any comments? Shall I still report it or is it FiF anyway? Kind regards -Tom ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: How to get a program window into the task/window switcher?
Hello Faheem, thank you so much for your detailed manual :) I got xprop from here: deb http://austinche.name/maemo/ bora/ But libxmuu1 is required for the xprop installation, so I got libxmuu1 from here: deb http://repository.maemo.org/ chinook free non-free Now I started xprop via SSH and the StartupWMClass is sun-awt-X11-XFramePeer and I wrote this file: [Desktop Entry] Encoding=UTF-8 Version=1.0 Type=Application Name=SmartHome GUI Exec=/home/user/run.sh StartupWMClass=sun-awt-X11-XFramePeer When I start my application than I have my application in the tast/window switcher :) I ask me why a simple desktop file, which is only a shortcut in my eyes, brings my application into the task/window switcher although I DO NOT start my applicaton by clicking on the shortcut... I start my application by hand in the terminal and it is also in the task/window switcher :D Can you explain this feature, please :) ? Greatings, Martin Faheem Pervez schrieb: From: *Faheem Pervez* tripp...@gmail.com mailto:tripp...@gmail.com Date: Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 4:00 PM Subject: Re: How to get a program window into the task/window switcher? To: Martin Wegner martinator.de http://martinator.de@arcor.de http://arcor.de Hello, Here's a SDL example: Building and running http://olofson.net/download/parallax-2.tar.gz and pressing home only shows me the terminal I started it with: http://i42.tinypic.com/124wyub.png sdlonly For SDL (and SDL only) , you have to add a putenv(SDL_VIDEO_X11_WMCLASS=app); because SDL under Maemo seems to report the same WMCLASS for every SDL app. So I've added putenv(SDL_VIDEO_X11_WMCLASS=parallax); above SDL_Init(SDL_INIT_VIDEO); and this forces the WMCLASS of this app to be parallax. Other apps usually have a correct WMClass. /sdlonly Now, if I start the SDL demo on the N800 and run xprop over SSH and tap on my window, I get the following output: http://pastebin.com/mc90995a I do not know where a packaged version of xprop is available for diablo - I compiled my binary on the tablet. Looking at the highlighted line in the pastebin output, the WMCLASS is parallax (ignore the second parallax in quotes - the first pair of quotes is the value needed). Now, the next step is to make a desktop file. I've saved this file as /usr/share/applications/hildon/parallax2.desktop. Here is the one I've quickly made for parallax: http://pastebin.com/m66ba244f Notice that the argument given to StartupWMClass is the same as the WMClass output given from xprop. And, lo and behold, I get my icon shown: http://i39.tinypic.com/avllrn.png (Ignore that the window title is shown as unknown - this is something specific to SDL under Maemo) Some hints regarding the desktop file: * The Name field you will want to name properly as it's the name shown in the application menu and it's also shown when you tap and hold on the application's entry in the application switcher on the left. * If you have no intention of running it from the menu, you can remove the Exec field and add NoDisplay=true to the desktop file. As long as the desktop file is there, the icon will still show regardless of not having an exec field and it will still show even if you choose not to display the desktop file entry in the application manager. Best Regards :), Faheem On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Martin Wegner martinator.de http://martinator.de@arcor.de http://arcor.de wrote: Hello, thank you for your answer :) But I must admit you that I don't understand your recommendation :( Can you make a little example, please? Thank you so much! Greatings, Martin Faheem Pervez schrieb: You can use xprop to get the WMClass of the application and make a desktop file and add the WMClass given to the StartupWMClass argument in the desktop file. It's done with SDL apps and some Xlib apps to get the icon shown. BR On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Martin Wegner martinator.de http://martinator.de http://martinator.de@arcor.de http://arcor.de http://arcor.de wrote: Hello, my Java AWT/Swing programs don't appear in the task/window switcher when I use openjdk-6-cacao-jre from the Jalimo project. I have the same problem when I use Sun Java SE for Embedded 6u10 headful version. Is there a way to put a program window into the task/window switcher? Thank you for your help! Greatings, Martin ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org mailto:maemo-developers@maemo.org mailto:maemo-developers@maemo.org mailto:maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Duplicity Backup Available on Diablo
Folks, I've just ported duplicity backup to Maemo Diablo. You can find it in the extras-devel repository. Please try it out and let me know how it works for you. All feedback is appreciated. More information on duplicity may be found at: http://duplicity.nongnu.org/ - main page http://duplicity.nongnu.org/CHANGELOG - changelog http://duplicity.nongnu.org/duplicity.1.html - man page Duplicity has multiple backends, SSH, FTP, etc., all covered in the above. You will need to install ncftp for FTP, openssh for SSH, and so on. Right now, the S3 (boto) backend is broken, but I'm working on it. ...Thanks, ...Ken ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
New home for Easy Debian?
Hi everyone, My long-time host, maemobox.org, is being shut down this week. Is there anyone willing to host my image files? They are large (over 300 MB each) and they contain the root filesystems of various alternate distributions, tweaked to run in a chroot. At this point, garage.maemo.org doesn't allow file uploads of the size I need (maximum 150MB files there). If I can't find a host for, at least, my Easy Debian rootfs image, I will have to remove Easy Debian from the extras repository. -- enthusiast, n. One whose mind is wholly possessed and heated by what engages it; one who is influenced by a peculiar fervor of mind; an ardent and imaginative person. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: New home for Easy Debian?
garage.maemo.org seems like the appropriate place. Would splitting the file be a possibility that would allow garage usage (at the expense of end user convenience)? Frank On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Qole qole.tab...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, My long-time host, maemobox.org, is being shut down this week. Is there anyone willing to host my image files? They are large (over 300 MB each) and they contain the root filesystems of various alternate distributions, tweaked to run in a chroot. At this point, garage.maemo.org doesn't allow file uploads of the size I need (maximum 150MB files there). If I can't find a host for, at least, my Easy Debian rootfs image, I will have to remove Easy Debian from the extras repository. -- enthusiast, n. One whose mind is wholly possessed and heated by what engages it; one who is influenced by a peculiar fervor of mind; an ardent and imaginative person. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: New home for Easy Debian?
ext Qole qole.tab...@gmail.com writes: At this point, garage.maemo.org doesn't allow file uploads of the size I need (maximum 150MB files there). You could try asking for an exception. Yours seems like a worthy cause. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: New home for Easy Debian?
On Apr 27, 2009, at 2:58 PM, Marius Vollmer wrote: ext Qole qole.tab...@gmail.com writes: At this point, garage.maemo.org doesn't allow file uploads of the size I need (maximum 150MB files there). You could try asking for an exception. Yours seems like a worthy cause. Or just raising the limits. We can always beg hardware from Tero later. ;) -- Ryan Abel Maemo Community Council member ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: New home for Easy Debian?
Hello, Ryan Abel wrote: On Apr 27, 2009, at 2:58 PM, Marius Vollmer wrote: ext Qole qole.tab...@gmail.com writes: At this point, garage.maemo.org doesn't allow file uploads of the size I need (maximum 150MB files there). You could try asking for an exception. Yours seems like a worthy cause. Or just raising the limits. We can always beg hardware from Tero later. ;) Guys, the web place of garage projects (ie. the www dir in the version control's root) is NOT MEANT for debian repositories or 300 megs of image files. We made exceptions way too many imho by raising the upload limits, instead of solving the problem and setting up a proper service. What we need here is a similar infrastructure as extras has: a content delivery network. There has been a project proposal 2 years ago for VIP file sharing. The drafts are still somewhere on garage... It is a pity we did not make it clear enough that the www place is for simple, static web pages and nothing else. -- Ryan Abel Maemo Community Council member Br, ferenc ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: New home for Easy Debian?
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Ferenc Szekely fer...@maemo.org wrote: Guys, the web place of garage projects (ie. the www dir in the version control's root) is NOT MEANT for debian repositories or 300 megs of image files. We made exceptions way too many imho by raising the upload limits, instead of solving the problem and setting up a proper service. What we need here is a similar infrastructure as extras has: a content delivery network. There has been a project proposal 2 years ago for VIP file sharing. The drafts are still somewhere on garage... Looks to me like something like Launchpad's PPA (see e.g.: https://launchpad.net/~lizardo/+archive/boost1.38-jaunty) It would be very interesting to have a similar service in garage. Regards, -- Anderson Lizardo OpenBossa Labs - INdT Manaus - Brazil ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: New home for Easy Debian?
On Monday 27 April 2009 21:18:19 Ferenc Szekely wrote: Guys, the web place of garage projects (ie. the www dir in the version control's root) is NOT MEANT for debian repositories or 300 megs of image files. We made exceptions way too many imho by raising the upload limits, instead of solving the problem and setting up a proper service. What we need here is a similar infrastructure as extras has: a content delivery network. There has been a project proposal 2 years ago for VIP file sharing. The drafts are still somewhere on garage... Sounds like torrent land to me. Maybe a tracker would be enough + a few kind souls with dedicated seeds - and then garage gets only the .torrent files. If this sounds silly or 'been there, done that', chalk it up to me being new here. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: New home for Easy Debian?
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Attila Csipa ma...@csipa.in.rs wrote: Sounds like torrent land to me. Maybe a tracker would be enough + a few kind souls with dedicated seeds - and then garage gets only the .torrent files. If this sounds silly or 'been there, done that', chalk it up to me being new here. Sounds like time to dust off apt-torrent. -- question = ( to ) ? be : ! be; -- Wm. Shakespeare ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: New home for Easy Debian?
Thank you, Graham, and those who championed the raising of garage.maemo.org's file size limits. I still think maemo.org needs to allow big Maemo and tablet related downloads, but we've got some more time to discuss this now. I have managed to get a stay of execution for a year, by purchasing an unlimited bandwidth hosting account from dreamhost.com for $9.24 for a year. I will update my Easy Debian package to point to the new server this week. You can go visit my new site at qole.org and feel free to download away! On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Graham Cobb g+...@cobb.uk.netg%2b...@cobb.uk.net wrote: On Monday 27 April 2009 18:40:26 you wrote: Hi everyone, My long-time host, maemobox.org, is being shut down this week. Is there anyone willing to host my image files? They are large (over 300 MB each) and they contain the root filesystems of various alternate distributions, tweaked to run in a chroot. Of course, the best idea is a Maemo server but if you need somewhere for a limited time, I might be able to host them on my personal Internet server. I have plenty of disk space but bandwidth is limited on my hosting package -- any idea how much bandwidth you use each month? Graham -- enthusiast, n. One whose mind is wholly possessed and heated by what engages it; one who is influenced by a peculiar fervor of mind; an ardent and imaginative person. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
