Re: Libraries missing when trying to compile ArApp

2010-11-02 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hola Antonio,

On 2 November 2010 11:31,  ac...@dsic.upv.es wrote:
 I am trying to compile the ArApp using Nokia SDK, but is says that I am
 missing the files:
 - GLES2/gl2.h
 - X11/Xlib.h
 - X11/Xatom.h

you have to install these packages in your distribution:

libx11-dev, x11proto-core-dev, mesa-dev

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MeeGo Conference 2010: registration form open an 7 days left for call for paper

2010-08-16 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi all,

first of all, please excuse me for cross-posting, but since this is an
important news I hope I won't disturb anyone :)

Few days ago, on MeeGo website, was published the registration form
where people can register to attend the first MeeGo Conference that
will be in Dublin on November 15th, 16th, and 17th.
You can find the registration form here:
http://conference2010.meego.com/meego-conference-2010-signup

The partecipation is free for all, but people must register because
only 600 spots are available (we already have around 100 people
registered).

Another important thing about the conference is the call for paper:
developers and power users can submit a talk description (30 or 45
minutes) and if the talk is accepted, they will be able to present it
at the Conference.
Please keep in mind that the last valid day to submit a talk is on
August 23th so only few days left to do it!

The CFP submission form is available here:
http://conference2010.meego.com/node/add/session

Thank you for your attention and we really hope to see you in Dublin
for the first MeeGo Summit!

Best regards,

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Re: I cannot build a QtMobility application with Scratchbox

2010-07-28 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

On 29 July 2010 00:08, Ville M. Vainio vivai...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 12:38 AM, Andrea Grandi a.gra...@gmail.com wrote:

 But... if I try to compile it under Scratchbox, I get the following
 errors: http://pastebin.com/LGAxjxLv

 This raises the alarm bells:

 I/targets/FREMANTLE_ARMEL/opt/qt4-maemo5

 apparently you are using the old unofficial qt4-maemo5 stuff. Ensure
 that you have removed all the old -maemo5 qt packages.

you got it man! I removed old packages and re-installed new one! Now
it can be built without any problem :)

p.s: Nokia SDK still need to be fixed: since you released
libqtm-multimedia 1.0.2 both for Scratchbox and N900, applications
using libqtm-multimedia can be built with Scratchbox, with Maemo
Extras Assistant ecc... but NOT with Nokia SDK targeting Maemo (it
still have libqtm-multimedia 1.0.0 and there are little differences in
API calls).

Regards,

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I cannot build a QtMobility application with Scratchbox

2010-07-27 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi all,

I'm working to a C++/Qt4 application: http://gitorious.org/lastgo
I can compile this application for Desktop (yes... I've compiled
QtMobility for desktop too), for Simulator and it can be built by
Maemo Extras Assistant.

But... if I try to compile it under Scratchbox, I get the following
errors: http://pastebin.com/LGAxjxLv

How can I fix this? Thanks!

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Please update QtMobility distributed with Nokia SDK to 1.0.2

2010-07-27 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

after you have updated QtMobility packages to 1.0.2 in official Maemo
repositories, you should update also the version distributed with
Nokia SDK.

In particular I had to fix the way I was using QMediaPlaylist to make
it compatible with 1.0.2 and now is not anymore compatible with Maemo
target of Mokia SDK.
Please update it.

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libqtm-multimedia 1.0.2-maemo1 breaks compatibility with application built for libqtm-multimedia 1.0.0

2010-07-23 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi all,

after libqtm-multimedia 1.0.2 appeared in Maemo repository, all
application using this library give this error: error while loading
shared libraries: libQtMedia.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No
such file or directory
I'm trying to re-upload my application to see if building it again
using this library will fix the problem. Else you'll have to fix it
someway.

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Re: libqtm-multimedia 1.0.2-maemo1 breaks compatibility with application built for libqtm-multimedia 1.0.0

2010-07-23 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi all,

On 24 July 2010 02:30, Andrea Grandi a.gra...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 after libqtm-multimedia 1.0.2 appeared in Maemo repository, all
 application using this library give this error: error while loading
 shared libraries: libQtMedia.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No
 such file or directory
 I'm trying to re-upload my application to see if building it again
 using this library will fix the problem. Else you'll have to fix it
 someway.

nothing to do... as you can see:
https://garage.maemo.org/builder/fremantle/lastgo_0.2.1-5/armel.build.log.FAILED.txt
I cannot compile the package anymore.

Please fix this as soon as possible!

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Re: libqtm-multimedia 1.0.2-maemo1 breaks compatibility with application built for libqtm-multimedia 1.0.0

2010-07-23 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

On 24 July 2010 02:30, Andrea Grandi a.gra...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 after libqtm-multimedia 1.0.2 appeared in Maemo repository, all
 application using this library give this error: error while loading
 shared libraries: libQtMedia.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No
 such file or directory
 I'm trying to re-upload my application to see if building it again
 using this library will fix the problem. Else you'll have to fix it
 someway.

I fixed with this changes:
http://gitorious.org/lastgo/lastgo/commit/95e351a853c6467cc16ec5545d15cfbcc351d748
but it was really annoying for me, let me say :\

Now I'll have to submit my package again to extras-testing, loosing
priority in the queue

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Re: Maemo QA process

2010-07-22 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi all,

do you think that the possibility to vote (UP/DOWN) applications and
send feedback directly from N900 could help the process? It's just an
idea eh...

Another feature I'd like to see on Application Manager is the
possibility to know if an application I see comes from maemo-extras,
extras-testing or extras-devel. There's no way to know it at the
moment.
This information should be clearly visible with a color for example:
green for extras, orange for testing and red for devel.

There should be the possibility ti configure username/password of
maemo.org directly in N900 settings, so the user can automatically
send feedback without having to login.

Is this too much effort?

Please let me know what you think about.

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Re: Maemo QA process

2010-07-21 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

On 21 July 2010 22:53, Roman Morawek li...@morawek.at wrote:
 Hello,

 I like to share my thoughts on the QA strategy of Maemo.

 I am the owner of an N900 program and promoted my package to
 extras-testing ca. 2 months ago. Right now there are only 2 votes on it.
 I wonder how many more months it will take until 10 persons vote for it
 such that I can promote it to extras (given that the votes are positive).

I've promoted a package to extras-testing too and in 3 days I've 0
votes. Other packages are having the same problem and I think that
this is a real fail for Maemo users.
I agree that we must ensure some quality to application distributed to
end users, but this process must be improved as soon as possible
because it doesn't work well.

How to improve it?

1) Automatic promotion to maemo-extras if no one send a negative
feedback within 10 days.
2) Immediatly promoted after 5 positive feedback.

I think we should discuss this as soon as possible.

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Qt and Multimedia: the big mess

2010-07-13 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi all,

let's make the point about Multimedia libraries available in Qt framework.
We have: QtMultimedia, QtMobility-Multimedia, Phonon, QSound and
QtMultimediaKit is going to be released. Did I miss something?

At the moment I'm writing an application that uses
QtMobility-Multimedia and I had to recompile this library for Qt 4.6.3
Desktop to be able to test my application for Desktop target (it takes
to long to test it directly on N900 and it's not a good idea if I've
just to test networking, xml parsing ecc...).

Why doesn't Nokia try to unify all these multimedia libraries or at
least try to make them API-consistent? Even from a QtMobility release
to another there are differences... for example this is what I've to
do to be able to compile my project on both Desktop and Maemo target:

 // hack to make things work with maemo qt-mobility version
#if defined(Q_WS_MAEMO_5)
playlist-setMediaObject(player);
#else
player-setPlaylist(playlist);
#endif

Please let me know what do you think about it.

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Re: How to compile in Scratchbox a project created with Nokia SDK?

2010-07-01 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

On 30 June 2010 16:49, Antonio Aloisio antonio.aloi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ciao Andre',

 I mean you have to generate the Makefile on the server.
 You can add qmake project.pro in your debian/rules.. it will do the job.

nothing to do :\
I've tried many time but I always get FAIL email after I submitted
the pachage.

Could you please tell me how should I modify the debian/rules to call
the server's qmake on my project?

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Re: How to compile in Scratchbox a project created with Nokia SDK?

2010-07-01 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

On 1 July 2010 16:32, Robin Burchell virot...@viroteck.net wrote:
 Hi Andrea,

 On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Andrea Grandi a.gra...@gmail.com wrote:
 Could you please tell me how should I modify the debian/rules to call
 the server's qmake on my project?

 Perhaps you could try looking at the debian/ dir for e.g. rotatedaemon:

 http://github.com/rburchell/rotatedaemon

yeah, I'm giving a look at this:
http://github.com/rburchell/rotatedaemon/blob/master/debian/rules

What I don't understand about Nokia SDK project folders is that they
have TWO /debian/ directories and I don't know what do I have to refer
to.
Look at my project structure:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/835341/msoma.tar.gz (it doesn't matter you
look at the code, just look at the files structure). You'll see that
Nokia SDK creates two debian folders. It's important for me to know
which directory I've to refer to.

I'll try to play again with code, maybe I'll be able to fix it, let's hope...

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How to compile in Scratchbox a project created with Nokia SDK?

2010-06-30 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi all,

I'm working to a project created with Nokia SDK (Qt4/C++) and at the
moment we're able to compile for Maemo target and let the IDE to
generate the .deb package (please note that generating the .deb means
that we already have a working debian/ directory with all contro,
changelog ecc... files).

I'd like to upload this package to extras-devel, and following the
instructions of Autobuilder Wizard, I've to rebuild the source package
using Scratchbox in this way: dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -sa -S

Trying to execute this command under Scratchbox I get the following errors:

[sbox-FREMANTLE_ARMEL: ~/MyDocs/msoma-build-maemo]  dpkg-buildpackage
-rfakeroot -sa -S
dpkg-buildpackage: source package is msoma
dpkg-buildpackage: source version is 0.1.1
dpkg-buildpackage: source changed by Andrea Grandi and...@unknown
dpkg-buildpackage: source version without epoch 0.1.1
 fakeroot debian/rules clean
dh_testdir
dh_testroot
rm -f build-stamp configure-stamp
# Add here commands to clean up after the build process.
/scratchbox/tools/bin/make clean
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/andrea/MyDocs/msoma-build-maemo'
make[1]: *** No rule to make target
`../../../../NokiaQtSDK/Maemo/4.6.2/sysroots/fremantle-arm-sysroot-10.2010.19-1-slim/usr/share/qt4/mkspecs/linux-g++-maemo5/qmake.conf',
needed by `Makefile'.  Stop.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/andrea/MyDocs/msoma-build-maemo'
make: *** [clean] Error 2
[sbox-FREMANTLE_ARMEL: ~/MyDocs/msoma-build-maemo] 

How can I fix this problem? Thanks for your help!

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Re: How to compile in Scratchbox a project created with Nokia SDK?

2010-06-30 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

On 30 June 2010 15:37, Ville M. Vainio vivai...@gmail.com wrote:
 Last time I checked, the command is debuild if we are talking about
 extras-assistant:

 https://garage.maemo.org/extras-assistant/

yes, I'm talking about the extras-assistant, but in Step 2 (I mean
this page: https://garage.maemo.org/extras-assistant/index.php?step=2
)
there is this command: dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -sa -S

 However, it seems it's still using old data from NQS. Clean up all the
 Makefiles.

the problem is the Makefile itself. The one generated by Nokia SDK is
this: http://pastebin.com/50khFW0k
and the PATHs are cllearly wrong (for example: INCPATH   =
-I../../../../NokiaQtSDK/Maemo/4.6.2/sysroots/fremantle-arm-sysroot-10.2010.19-1-slim/usr/share/qt4/mkspecs/linux-g++-maemo5)

but how can I generate a Makefile that is compatible with Scratchbox too?

I did run /opt/qt4-maemo5/bin/qmake-qt4 msoma.pro and then I was able
to build the source package and upload it in Autobuilder, but I got a
building error: http://pastebin.com/4K9jug6U
You should be able to see all the errors here:
https://garage.maemo.org/builder/fremantle/msoma_0.1.1/

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Re: How to compile in Scratchbox a project created with Nokia SDK?

2010-06-30 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi all,

On 30 June 2010 16:27, Antonio Aloisio antonio.aloi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ciao Andrea,

 I took a look at your debian/rules.. I think you can solve this issue
 merely generating the Makefile each time the package
 is built.

I'm generating the Makefile each time. I remove the old Makefile and
generated a new one with this command: /opt/qt4-maemo5/bin/qmake-qt4
msoma.pro
then I went to the building folder and ran dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -sa -S
in this way I could generate the three files

-rw-rw-r--   1 andrea andrea 246 Jun 30 15:52 msoma_0.1.1.dsc
-rw-rw-r--   1 andrea andrea 1119267 Jun 30 15:52 msoma_0.1.1.tar.gz
-rw-rw-r--   1 andrea andrea 557 Jun 30 15:52 msoma_0.1.1_source.changes

which I uploaded to the Autobuilder. The problem is that in this way
my Makefile under Scratchbox is using /opt/qt4-maemo5/bin/qmake-qt4
which is not found by Autobuilder (look at the error: make[1]: *** No
rule to make target
`/targets/FREMANTLE_ARMEL/opt/qt4-maemo5/mkspecs/linux-g++-maemo5/qmake.conf',
needed by `Makefile'. Stop.)

 My hints is do not fix the current makefile, but just make a new one using 
 CDBS.

I didn't touch the Makefile by hand. What is CDBS?

 PS: remove the obj files from the tarball as well as teh Makefle.

I just uploaded the generated msoma_0.1.1.tar.gz, shouldn't those
files be automatically removed or not included?

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Re: How to compile in Scratchbox a project created with Nokia SDK?

2010-06-30 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

On 30 June 2010 16:49, Antonio Aloisio antonio.aloi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ciao Andre',

 I mean you have to generate the Makefile on the server.
 You can add qmake project.pro in your debian/rules.. it will do the job.

before asking you how to properly modify the debian/rules file I want
to show you at least my directory structure.
You can find the package here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/835341/msoma.tar.gz

As you can see I copied msoma-build-maemo under scratchbox.
msoma-build-maemo is the building directory used by QtCreator (Nokia
SDK) to build msoma and create the package.
Of course I did need the sources too and as you can see I've the
msoma/ folder too, which contains all sources.

The first strange (annoying) think is that I must have the msoma.pro
both inside msoma/ and msoma-build-maemo/ folders, but this is not a
big problem for me.
I need then to run qmake on both .pro files, then I run
dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -sa -S to generare the sources.

Is this the right way? Should I organize sources and build directory
in a different way?

Now the question about debian/rules: in which line should I add the:
qmake msoma.pro? This is the original file:
http://pastebin.com/VdHfAaPn
could you please insert that line and paste it back?

Really thank you for you help :)

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Re: NokiaSDK (with latest updates): error compiling a QtMobility application for Maemo target

2010-06-26 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

On 22 June 2010 22:46, Fred Duarte fred.dua...@openbossa.org wrote:
 Hi, Andrea.

 I've had the same issue for a while and I've opened a bug report for it:

 http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTCREATORBUG-1614

 In my case, the error occurs only when building projects of template type
 'SUBDIRS'
 for maemo using the QtCreator.

 If this is also your case, then I'm sorry say that currently, non-Desktop
 builds
 of 'SUBDIRS' projects are not supported as it says on the end of the bug
 report.

sorry for the big delay in replying this email. I really didn't
understand what SUBDIRS was. Then I looked into my msoma.pro file and
I found: TEMPLATE=subdirs

So I cannot use QtCreator/NokiaSDK to build a package, right? Isn't
there any way to do it? I cannot simply copy the generated executable
into my N900, because it also need the other libs of my project, and I
don't want to manually copy all files into the device.

Would it change anything if I used Scratchbox to compile and build my package?

Any idea of how to solve my problem? Thanks for your help!

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NokiaSDK (with latest updates): error compiling a QtMobility application for Maemo target

2010-06-22 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi all,

I've upgraded Nokia SDK today and lot fo packages now are 1.0.0 or
2.0.0 so they should be almost the final release. I tried to compile a
QtMobility application I'm working on and I can say I've no problem
with Simulator: I can compile for this target and run my application
on it without any problem.

I get compilation errors when I try to compile it for Maemo target, in
particular:

Packaging Error: Could not copy
'/home/andrea/Documents/sviluppo/msoma-build-n900/msoma' to
'/home/andrea/Documents/sviluppo/msoma-build-n900/debian/msoma//usr/local/bin/msoma'.
Error while building project msoma (target: Maemo)

Here you can see the complete compilation logs: http://pastebin.com/p2Qw8P3X

As you can read it looks like the application is compiled but at the
end QtCreator try to deploy it somewhere, resulting in this error. Why
does QtCreator try to deploy it? I aske it to Build not to Run it
on the device.

How can I fix this? Thanks for your help.

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Is Nokia SDK 1.0 out?

2010-06-09 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

a friend of mine just found this:
http://www.forum.nokia.com/info/sw.nokia.com/id/e920da1a-5b18-42df-82c3-907413e525fb/Nokia_Qt_SDK.html
do we have to wait for the official announce or is it the final version anyway?

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Re: mobility examples with nokia qt sdk

2010-06-07 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

On 7 June 2010 17:26, Daniil Ivanov daniil.iva...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Lorenzo!

  Qt Simulator is simply Qt for Desktop and doesn't support Qt Mobility.
  Use Maemo or Symbian (on Windows) targets.

I cannot compile QtMobiity examples neither. I'm trying to compile the
Player example, I'm using Linux and Nokia SDK beta, but I get these
compilation errors: http://pastebin.com/mSccJane

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Re: mobility examples with nokia qt sdk

2010-06-07 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

On 7 June 2010 17:41, Andrea Grandi a.gra...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 On 7 June 2010 17:26, Daniil Ivanov daniil.iva...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Lorenzo!

  Qt Simulator is simply Qt for Desktop and doesn't support Qt Mobility.
  Use Maemo or Symbian (on Windows) targets.

 I cannot compile QtMobiity examples neither. I'm trying to compile the
 Player example, I'm using Linux and Nokia SDK beta, but I get these
 compilation errors: http://pastebin.com/mSccJane

I'm trying to compile this for Maemo device target.

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Re: mobility examples with nokia qt sdk

2010-06-07 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

On 7 June 2010 17:59, Daniil Ivanov daniil.iva...@gmail.com wrote:
 What we don't have is the release 1.0 of qt mobility libraries for the madde
 so you can't compile applications that target the n900 and use qt mobility
 1.0 on the qt sdk. It is a big pain - right now I have to write the code on
 the sdk, do some testing on the simulator with anything that is not maemo5
 specific and then compile on scratchbox, copy to the device and then run
 real tests.

 I do all testing on real device, it gives more robust results and
 actually saves time.

luckly me and Lorenzo have a real device to do our tests, but we still
cannot compile our application for N900 using Nokia SDK :(

If I understand well we still need to:

1) write code on Nokia SDK
2) compile code under Scratchbox
3) copy compiled code to N900
4) test code on N900

we'll never be able to do on-device debugging step-by-step nor on
simulator, and this is so bad :\

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Error deploying and running a Qt application on N900 using QtDeveloper

2010-06-06 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

I'm trying to deploy and run a simple application to my N900 device
using Nokia SDK beta.
I've configured the SSH access on device and I've configured QtCreator
to connect to it.

Using the Test button I get this:

Device configuration successful.
Hardware architecture: armv7l
Kernel version: 2.6.28-omap1
List of installed Qt packages:
libqt4-core 4.6.2
libqt4-dbus 4.6.2
libqt4-gui 4.6.2
libqt4-maemo5 4.6.2
libqt4-multimedia 4.6.2
libqt4-network 4.6.2
libqt4-opengl 4.6.2
libqt4-phonon 4.6.2
libqt4-sql 4.6.2
libqt4-sql-sqlite 4.6.2
libqt4-svg 4.6.2
libqt4-webkit 4.6.2
libqt4-xml 4.6.2
libqt4-xmlpatterns 4.6.2

When I try to run my application on my N900 I get this:

Files to deploy: /home/andrea/Documents/sviluppo/msoma-build/msoma/msoma.
Deployment finished.
Starting remote application.
chmod u+x /root/msoma; source /etc/profile;  /root/msoma
/root/msoma: line 1: syntax error: ( unexpected (expecting ))
Nokia-N900:~#
Remote process finished successfully.

what's the problem? Is this an error on my application or simply a
deploy problem?
Please note that I can run the application on the emulator without any
problem, I just cannot run this on my N900.

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Re: Error deploying and running a Qt application on N900 using QtDeveloper

2010-06-06 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

On 6 June 2010 14:55, daniel wilms danielwi...@googlemail.com wrote:
 it sounds like the application is not compiled with MADDE for the N900.
 Usually then this error occurs. Maybe clean, rebuild and deploy then? Check
 in the build if it uses MADDE. You can see that in the paths in the build
 output.

I don't know if I'm using MADDE or not, I just use QtCreator. I've
found what the problem was by the way:

the directory /home/andrea/Documents/sviluppo/msoma-build was used for
every builds. Now I've set different build path for each target:

/home/andrea/Documents/sviluppo/msoma-build-desktop
/home/andrea/Documents/sviluppo/msoma-build-simulator
/home/andrea/Documents/sviluppo/msoma-build-n900

so I don't have any problem anymore.

I think that QtCreator should set them automatically. There is not any
sense to use the same build directory for ALL, since it can result in
these kind of errors.

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Pushing changes on Gitorius from QtCreator

2010-06-05 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hello,

I've just started a project on Gitorius: http://gitorious.org/msoma
and I've successfully imported it on QtCreator, I've written some
changes and I've committed locally.

When I try to PUSH changes I get this error:

10:02 Executing: git push
fatal: protocol error: expected sha/ref, got '
--
The git:// protocol is read-only.

Please use the push url as listed on the repository page.
--'

'git push' failed (exit code 128).

It's quite normale I cannot push changes back, since I never specified
a username/password of Gitorius, nor QtCreator asked me one, but I
really cannot find how to configure this in QtCreator settings.
Maybe do I have to configure my Git username/password elsewhere?

I'm quite new to Git and I really don't know how to push changes back,
neither from terminal :\

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Re: Pushing changes on Gitorius from QtCreator

2010-06-05 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

On 5 June 2010 10:43, Antonio Aloisio antonio.aloi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Andrea,
 You cannot push changes using the git:// or the http  since they are
 read-only protocols for git.
 You have to clone the repository (actually non mandatory but it\s the
 easiest way...) and push back the changes using the push url.

I found a workaround googling a bit :)

 So the step to do are:
 1 add your ssh public key to gitorious using the web interface

I already did this

 2 git clone THE_PUSH_URL

I didn't this, but

I modified this file: .git/config in mSoma source folder, changing
this string url = git://gitorious.org/msoma/msoma.git to url =
g...@gitorious.org:msoma/msoma.git
and not it works :)

p.s: isn't there any way to modify this settigs directly from
QtCreator, without having to modify them with an external editor?

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Quality assurance of stable software: my battery drained in few hours

2010-05-29 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi all,

this is my situation:

- N900 with PR 1.2 flashed
- full charged battery
- extras-devel and extras-testing disabled
- 2 installed and running widget: facebook (pre-installed by default)
and Twitter (available on OVI store)

I expect this software to be STABLE.

I went to sleep at 3:00, I wake up few minutes ago with the N900
powered off. There was not any active connection when I went to sleep,
so could anyone please explain me WHO drained my whole battery?!

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Re: Quality assurance of stable software: my battery drained in few hours

2010-05-29 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

On 29 May 2010 12:11, Ville M. Vainio vivai...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Andrea Grandi a.gra...@gmail.com wrote:

 I went to sleep at 3:00, I wake up few minutes ago with the N900
 powered off. There was not any active connection when I went to sleep,
 so could anyone please explain me WHO drained my whole battery?!

 Can you ensure that your phone doesn't create connections automatically?

yes I'm sure. I never let it connect automatically. And just for you
to notice: once I really forgot to disconnect before going to sleep:
when I wake up I still had more than half of the battery, but this is
of course not the case.

So my suspects are:

- the Twitter widget available in OVI (if it's this, congratulation to
people who publish software in OVI store without let testers to test
it in extras-devel / extras-testing)
- the facebook widget (very strange since it's available from the
beginning, someone should have noticed this bug)
- something really weird introduced with PR 1.2 (no comment).

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Re: Quality assurance of stable software: my battery drained in few hours

2010-05-29 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

On 29 May 2010 19:02, Ian v...@riseup.net wrote:
 Hi

 I went to sleep at 3:00, I wake up few minutes ago with the N900
 powered off. There was not any active connection when I went to sleep,
 so could anyone please explain me WHO drained my whole battery?!

 Bluetooth? I'd check that

I never use it

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Re: Qt SDK beta, N900 PR1.2 and qt-mobility-examples

2010-05-26 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

On 26 May 2010 20:06, Daniil Ivanov daniil.iva...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Attila!

  But why transition could not be smooth? Why not to wait with removal before
  package is really available in Fremantle repository?
  I see it as an act of disrespect towards the community.

not only for the community, but for developers too! I'm going to
develop a Qt application that needs QtMobility package and wtf?! I've
to wait because QtMobility package just disappeared? I'm very
disappointed about this change. Fail imho.

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Re: Why should I write apps for Maemo?

2010-05-07 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi

On 7 May 2010 09:53, Marcin Juszkiewicz mar...@juszkiewicz.com.pl wrote:
 I wonder what so hard is in making PR 1.1.2 release which will give Qt 4.6 as
 standard (rather none of nokia apps use it) with 1.1.3 following it with few
 other small updates. We have May now and first talks about releasing PR1.2
 were next week in February...

I was wondering the same thing: why is it so hard to provide a 1.1.2
image with Qt 4.6.2 installed?

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Re: Why should I write apps for Maemo?

2010-05-07 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

On 7 May 2010 11:44, Dawid Lorenz a...@adl.pl wrote:
 Releasing test-and-strictly-developer-aka-geek-oriented images on regular
 basis would be simply great. Think of it like extras and
 extras-testing/devel - yet not for apps, but full-blown OS images. Normal
 users should strictly stay away from these, but whole bunch of geek folks
 who imho are the essence of Maemo/MeeGo platforms would jump high in joy and
 that would definitely keep guys on both sides of the fence relatively happy.
 Just my three cents.

this is another great idea. If you really belive in the Community
contribution, I think it should be normal to release development (even
daily builds) images. This is what happens usually with a Linux
distribution: final user, for example, will install Ubuntu when it's
officially out, but power-users and community contributor can install
the development version and help with testing and bug reporting.

I think that Nokia could be more open in Maemo development and this is
a solid example.

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Re: Cannot install Maemo SDK 1.2 in Ubuntu Lucid: dependencies problems

2010-05-03 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

On 3 May 2010 08:03,  tero.k...@nokia.com wrote:
 How can I fix this?

 Try:
 ~# echo 0  /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr

 At least that is what people more knowledgeable than me tell to do. It has 
 something to do with the recent kernels and QEMU.

thanks anyway, but I found the same fix and I forgot to post here in
the mailing list, but I at least wrote the solution in t.m.o.

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=636394postcount=8

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Cannot install Maemo SDK 1.2 in Ubuntu Lucid: dependencies problems

2010-04-30 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi all,

I'm trying to install Maemo SDK on my pc with Ubuntu Lucid and I'm
getting some errors.
I've tried both the gui-installer, both the usual scripts way.

I've no problem installing maemo-scratchbox and until this point all is fine.

When I try to install maemo-sdk inside Scratchbox, I begin getting
some dependencies problems. I wasn't able to log all the errors, but
you can view a big part here: http://pastebin.com/g76yD1jG

How can I fix this?

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Re: Maemo 5 PR1.2 and Extras

2010-02-24 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

On 24 February 2010 12:21, Niels Breet ni...@maemo.org wrote:
 Hi,

 Maemo 5 PR1.2 seems to be a release with some large changes which are not
 backwards compatible with previous releases. Most visible change will be
 the inclusion of Qt4.6, but there will be some other smaller changes.

after all the main/official way to write applications for N900 is using C+Gtk.

Developers who are using Qt (both C++ and Python) know that are using
something still experimental (even if already so good).
There are pro/cons using Qt right now. Ok, we'll have to rebuild/adapt
our applications when PR 1.2 is out, but for sure we'll be ready for
Harmattan/MeeGo development :)

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Re: Maemo 5 PR1.2 and Extras

2010-02-24 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

On 24 February 2010 13:27, Sascha Mäkelä sascha.mak...@gmail.com wrote:
 I would prefer if devs could get the PR1.2 update a week or so earlier than
 the general release. This way most of the necessary updates from Qt 4.5 to
 4.6 could be done before the general public gets the new firmware. Also the
 normal 10 day quarantine should not apply to these case.

it would be a nice idea imho :)
I would like it too!

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Twitter client for Maemo in Qt + Python: let's make the point

2010-02-24 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hello guys,

first of all I want to thank all the people who replied to my previous
email, I really didn't expect so much interest!
I've gathered all the informations you gave me, making a list of all
developers interested in helping in this project and another list of
similar projects.

These are the people interested in working to this project:

- Sivan Greenberg
- Gibran Rodriguez
- Nicola De Filippo
- Nirav Ranpara
- Adrian Yanes
- Amir B
- Randall Arnold

and these are the currently available similar projects:

- Witter - http://garage.maemo.org/projects/witter (Python/Gtk)
- Twitter-local - http://gitorious.org/twitter-local (C++/Qt)
- qTwitter - http://www.qt-apps.org/content/show.php/qTwitter?content=99087
(not a Maemo project)
- twcano - http://gitorious.org/twcano (Python/Qt)

My personal idea is to join the twcano project, since it's Python/Qt
based and, having tested it on Scratchbox, it's already very nice!
So, talking to the people who told me to be interested, why don't we
join the twcano project?

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Re: Twitter client for Maemo in Qt + Python: let's make the point

2010-02-24 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

On 24 February 2010 22:41, Renato Araujo rena...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi guys.

 It would be nice to get some help on Twcano, we can discuss the
 current architecture and propose changes if necessary.
 If someone want more information about the project or help to test
 this on n900 (debian packages still missing, I want fix some bugs
 before produce one), visit the #pyside channel at freenode.

 These are some images of Twcano running on n900:

 http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/6971/screenshot02.png
 http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/9239/screenshot03c.png

feel free to add me to the project, my user is this:
http://gitorious.org/~andreagrandi

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Twitter client for Maemo in Qt + Python: call for developers and UI designers

2010-02-22 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hello,

just few words to introduce myself (since I'm posting to MeeGo
development list too).

My name's Andrea Grandi, I'm italian and I'm a Maemo
user/lover/contributor since the Nokia 770.
I love Python as development language and few months ago I also gave
some contributions to the PyMaemo project.

In these days I had the idea to start writing a Twitter client for
Maemo with a precise direction in my mind. I'll try to explain all my
reasons here.
First of all I've to thank the author of Mauku client. I use it since
its first version and I'm quite happy with it. Then, why do I want to
write another one?

1) Maemo (MeeGo) is moving to Qt and for this reason I'm going to use
Qt, while Mauku uses Gtk.
2) I'm learning Qt and what is better than writing a complete (but not
too complex) application to learn better?
3) Mauku is not free as lot of people could think. Reading the source
codeyou find this You are NOT allowed to modify or redistribute the
source code., while I want to write a client and release it under
GPL2 or GPL3 license.
4) Mauku is not updated since some months and we have no news about it.
5) I love Python and I like to write free software in this language
6) I want to give to Maemo a stronger contribute.

Now my request for help.

Before lot of people start writing their own client resulting in 4-5
twitter clients for Maemo, why don't we join our strength and work to
a common project?
I'm not a Python expert nor a Qt one, but I've some experience as
project/team leader and since this is not a complex project, I would
be glad to lead it.

So, I'm looking for Python developers, Qt developers, UI designers and
whoever want to contribute to this project.
I still have to find a good name and logo for this application.

Who want to help me?

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Re: [pymaemo] Twitter client for Maemo in Qt + Python: call for developers and UI designers

2010-02-22 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

On 22 February 2010 17:15, Sivan Greenberg siv...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am interested in development. Do we have a project page on garage or wiki
 spot to do specs and brainstorming? How does RCS access works for MeeGo
 these days?
 Sivan

I don't have opened any space anywhere yet, because I first would like
to know if and how many other people are interested in joining the
project.
Then, after people have joined the project we should look for a nice
name (we need a name to register a project).

About Maemo Garage I want to make this clear from now: I'm quite NOT
happy with it. In the past has been so unstable, slow, lacking of
features ecc for this reasons lot of people moved their projects
to Gitorius or other hosting services. I've used Google Code for other
projects and I'm quite good with it, so I was thinking about it, but
of course we can talk about this.

Let's wait other people to join us and welcome to you :)

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Re: [MeeGo-dev] Twitter client for Maemo in Qt + Python: call for developers and UI designers

2010-02-22 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

On 22 February 2010 18:01, Gibran Rodriguez brangi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Do you think PySide could be used at some point?

I'm going to use PySide :)
Do you know any other working binding for Qt available for Maemo?

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Re: [MeeGo-dev] Twitter client for Maemo in Qt + Python: call for developers and UI designers

2010-02-22 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

On 22 February 2010 19:05, Renato Araujo rena...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi guys, nice to know about this thread. Some weeks ago I started a
 Twitter client based on Pyside, for promote the project. The INdT
 designs team help me with the Interface designer, some friends help
 with suggestions and bug report (a lot off :D).

 And after read this e-mail, I would like to share with you the current
 source code[1] (not stable yet, because of this I keep this closed
 until now), some work still needed to get all running fine.
 The main pending fixes are:
   *Some code clean-up is necessary, because some classes used to
 finger scroll are ported from C++ code.
   *Rewrite accounts storage system to use some DB system (sqlite, or
 other), the current version use QSettings to store account info, and
 this is not flexible to use more then one account.
   * Bug fixes

 I did litle changes on python twitter API, because of some new
 functionalities necessary in the application.

 I appreciate to share the code with you guys, the project is open, and
 the feedbacks and help, are welcome.

since you're using Python + Qt (PySide) I think it would be nice to
just join your project :)
Useless to create a new one.

p.s: really QSettings cannot manage more than one account?

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Re: Graphical Interface designer for Qt

2010-02-18 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

On 18 February 2010 12:58, Valerio Valerio vdv...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 11:54 AM, ac...@dsic.upv.es wrote:

 Does someone could tell where to find a GUI designer for Qt?

 http://qt.nokia.com/products/developer-tools

keep in mind that you cannot use QtDesigner to design a UI for Maemo yet.

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Re: Graphical Interface designer for Qt

2010-02-18 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

On 18 February 2010 13:09, Marcin Juszkiewicz mar...@juszkiewicz.com.pl wrote:
 Dnia czwartek, 18 lutego 2010 o 13:06:18 Andrea Grandi napisał(a):

 keep in mind that you cannot use QtDesigner to design a UI for Maemo yet.

 O, rly?

 My player [1] has UI created with Qt Designer. It has separate QMainWindows
 which are stacked, supports screen rotation (old way - need to update) etc. In
 one codebase I have support for Maemo5 (two windows) and desktop (one window)
 UI.

as far as I know, to load a .ui file you need to have libtools-qt
installed. They have been removed from the latest Qt4 that are
available in Maemo and there aren't any plans to include them again.
I know, this is crazy, but it's exactly what Qt guys told me!

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Re: Graphical Interface designer for Qt

2010-02-18 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

On 18 February 2010 13:29, Robin Burchell virot...@viroteck.net wrote:
 2010/2/18 Andrea Grandi a.gra...@gmail.com:
 as far as I know, to load a .ui file you need to have libtools-qt
 installed. They have been removed from the latest Qt4 that are
 available in Maemo and there aren't any plans to include them again.
 I know, this is crazy, but it's exactly what Qt guys told me!

 Look into using uic to compile them instead of loading them at
 runtime, see http://doc.trolltech.com/4.6/uic.html

a similar tool exist for Python too, I'm aware of it, but it's not
supporting Maemo at all.
I hope you know that Maemo UI is quite differente from the desktop Qt version.

There aren't only QtButton, QtDialog, QtLabel ecc... in a user interface.
Maemo has its own widget and there's no way (at the moment) to have a
real preview of them.

If you have seen the recently published video on youtube, showing
Maemo 6 widgets, you surely have noticed that Qt developers are
showing Maemo support in QtCreator, but it's not ready/published at
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Re: What to do in order to distribute a proyecto on Maemo (Meego)

2010-02-17 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

On 17 February 2010 14:02,  ac...@dsic.upv.es wrote:
 Thanks Ville.

 I understand that but I see this a little uselees learning to create .debs
 when they I will not use them anymore in some months. Do not you think so?

you will need to create .deb anyway if yoou want to distribute your
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Re: Problems Starting Application Framework

2010-01-30 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hello,

On 30 January 2010 18:38,  ac...@dsic.upv.es wrote:
 Hello,

 I am trying to compile the gtk-helloworld from the documentation of the SDK
 and when executing the next command:

 af-sb-init.sh start

 receive the next message:

 Note: For remote X connections DISPLAY should contain hostname!
 Sample files present.

you did: export DISPLAY=:2
inside your Scratchbox environment before doing af-sb-init.sh start ?

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Re: Donate $x button on Packages and/or Downloads

2010-01-22 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

it's a nice idea, but... why user has do go to maemo.org website to
donate? Shouldn't we integrate this even in Application Manager and/or
in the About dialog of every application?
Having to pass from a website is a non-sense for me, just like the
actual Ovi Store :P
I wish that (for example) user would be able to download (and pay if
they're not free) Ovi applications directly from Application manager.

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Re: Donate $x button on Packages and/or Downloads

2010-01-22 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

2010/1/22 Andrew Flegg and...@bleb.org:
 By having an amount suggested, it'll feel more like an app store - and
 I *think* users who don't have to decide how much to donate (is such
 a low amount derisory?) will donate, on average, more.

yes, that is good. I'd like to find, for example, 1€ default and being
able to change it to more or less.

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Re: Donate $x button on Packages and/or Downloads

2010-01-22 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

2010/1/22 Matan Ziv-Av ma...@svgalib.org:
 I thought maemo was supposed to be a free software community. The standard
 way of supporting applications should be patches.

not all users are developers and patches are not the only things that
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Re: Donate $x button on Packages and/or Downloads

2010-01-22 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

2010/1/22 Jeroen Schelhaas ma...@jeroenschelhaas.eu:
 If you want a donation button, add it on your about dialog or the 
 maemo.org/download page.

 But like it's a free choice for the user to donate, patch, simple thanks the 
 writer or do nothing, it's also free for the writer to prefer one of these. 
 So why adding it to all packages?

my suggestion at this point is: someone write a working piece of code
(C, C++, Python) that developers can reuse to integrate a Donate
button in their About dialogs. The user will be able to customize it
with his PayPal account, the default amount, ecc... what do you think
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Re: Donate $x button on Packages and/or Downloads

2010-01-22 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

2010/1/22 Andrew Flegg and...@bleb.org:
 On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 14:04, Andrea Grandi a.gra...@gmail.com wrote:

 my suggestion at this point is: someone write a working piece of code
 (C, C++, Python) that developers can reuse to integrate a Donate
 button in their About dialogs. The user will be able to customize it
 with his PayPal account, the default amount, ecc... what do you think
 about?

 And what about packages which don't *have* an About box, or even a
 UI? e.g. plugins for gstreamer  Telepathy; Catorise etc.? I'd also
 worry about visibility - remember this isn't SOLELY about getting some
 small extra cash to developers, but also giving the impression that
 maemo.org/downloads/ is playing with the big boys.

why no including both things? maemo.org/download button and
About--Donate if the application has a gui.
It would make sense for me

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Re: Cannot get all indexes in Scratchbox doing an apt-get update

2010-01-22 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi guys,

2010/1/19 Andrea Grandi a.gra...@gmail.com:
 Hi,

 2010/1/19 Jeff Moe m...@blagblagblag.org:
 There was a problem with akamai. Apparently it was flushed and working 
 now. See these logs and search for Will take around 10 minutes for it to 
 flush still. for some context:
 http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2010-01-19.log.html

 I'm still getting the same error, and I think 10 minutes have passed :D
 I'll try again tomorrow, thanks anyway ;)

I've tried today too, but I continue having the same error:

[sbox-FREMANTLE_X86: ~]  apt-get update
Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/sdk Release.gpg
Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/tools Release.gpg
Ign http://repository.maemo.org
fremantle/ Release.gpg
Get:1 http://repository.maemo.org fremantle Release.gpg [489B]
Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/sdk Release
Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/tools Release
Ign http://repository.maemo.org
fremantle/ Release
Get:2 http://repository.maemo.org fremantle Release [7958B]
Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle Release
Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/sdk/free Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/sdk/non-free Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/sdk/free Sources/DiffIndex
Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/tools/free Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/tools/non-free Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/tools/free Sources/DiffIndex
Ign http://repository.maemo.org
fremantle//nokia-binaries
Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/free Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/non-free Packages/DiffIndex
Hit http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/sdk/free Packages
Hit http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/sdk/non-free Packages
Get:3 http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/sdk/free Sources [87.4kB]
99% [3 Sources gzip 0] [Waiting for headers]
gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
Err http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/sdk/free Sources
  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
Hit http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/tools/free Packages
Hit http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/tools/non-free Packages
Hit http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/tools/free Sources
Hit http://repository.maemo.org
fremantle//nokia-binaries Packages
Get:4 http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/free Packages [2631kB]
Get:5 http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/non-free Packages [8318B]
Fetched 2648kB in 9s (280kB/s)
Failed to fetch
http://repository.maemo.org/dists/fremantle/sdk/free/source/Sources.gz
 Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
Reading package lists... Done
W: GPG error: http://repository.maemo.org fremantle Release: Couldn't
access keyring: 'No such file or directory'
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old
ones used instead.

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QtUiTools.QtUiLoader class not available in Qt4 for Maemo5

2010-01-22 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hello,

I was trying to understand, with the help of PySide team, if PySide
had the support for QtUiTools.QtUiLoader class.
It looks like they had to remove the support from binding because is
missing in Qt4 for Maemo5 too.

I really would like this class to be available both for C++ and Python
languages.

Can you tell me what are the plans about this class support in Maemo5?

Thanks for your help.

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Re: Quick start packaging guide

2010-01-22 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

2010/1/22 Dave Neary dne...@maemo.org:
 Improvements are welcome! Especially as related to:

 http://wiki.maemo.org/Packaging
 http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_packaging
 http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Packaging,_Deploying_and_Distributing
 http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras
 http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-testing
 http://wiki.maemo.org/Uploading_to_Extras-devel
 http://wiki.maemo.org/Uploading_to_Extras
 http://wiki.maemo.org/Developer_FAQ#Extras

 If we obsolete any of these pages, I'll be happy. If we make it easier
 to find useful stuff by linking to it from an
 easy-to-remember-and-reference portal page, I'll be happy.

having the documentation separated in all these pages is not so easy
for new comers :\
We should try to merge all these pages in one single page or maximum
two page: one quick start and one detailed howto.

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Cannot get all indexes in Scratchbox doing an apt-get update

2010-01-19 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

I was trying to do a simple apt-get update in my Scratchbox
installation, since I had not done it after the release of PR 1.1, but
I'm getting this error: http://pastebin.ca/1757618
It doesn't look like the same DNS problem, because I'm not getting
errors with all repositories, but only with the one containing
Sources.

Any idea about hot I could fix this?

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mafw-lasftm: installed, configured, restarted the device, but plugin is not started

2009-12-08 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi all,

I was trying to test mafw-lastfm plugin on my N900 but I cannot make it work.
I've installed it from extras-devel, I've configured it following the
istructions contained in README and I've restarted the device.

The plugin is not started automatically and I don't think the average
user would be able to understand how to start a mafw plugin.

Could you please fix this for the next release? Thanks :)

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Re: mafw-lasftm: installed, configured, restarted the device, but plugin is not started

2009-12-08 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

2009/12/8 Claudio Saavedra csaave...@igalia.com:
 El mar, 08-12-2009 a las 16:13 +0100, Andrea Grandi escribió:
 Hi all,

 I was trying to test mafw-lastfm plugin on my N900 but I cannot make it work.
 I've installed it from extras-devel, I've configured it following the
 istructions contained in README and I've restarted the device.

 The plugin is not started automatically and I don't think the average
 user would be able to understand how to start a mafw plugin.

  $ mafw-lastfm

 That should be enough to start it. Did you try to start it manually?

yes, I tried this while I was connected to it via ssh. I controlled
with ps -aux | grep mafw if it was running, but I wasn't.
Is it a standalone plugin or does it have to be started with the mafw wrapper?

 Since this is maemo-developers, I'll ask: did you try to debug why it
 doesn't start during the beginning of the session or whether it starts
 and exits, crashes, or whatever?

no error messages... it just stay without doing anything after you
execute it... it doesn't return.

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Re: Google Latitude

2009-12-08 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

2009/12/8 Simon Pickering s.g.picker...@bath.ac.uk:
 Not sure how location updates work, whether they are handled
 automatically or not, something to be tested. It also might

 I'm sat in my flat (i.e. with only a cell id location), and can see myself
 jumping all around Bath, so I guess updates are handled automatically.

 The one strange thing is that the last update message doesn't seem to be
 set by this webapp, while it is set by the Google homepage Latitude plugin,
 not sure/not looked how to fix that as it would be useful to know when the
 last update was.

I'm trying this right now, but belive me: using Google services
(Gmail, Maps, Reader, ecc...) with N900 is something that make you
say: what is this shit?! I want an iPhone! :(

GOOGLE: PLEASE, release your suite for Maemo! Thanks!

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Re: mafw-lasftm: installed, configured, restarted the device, but plugin is not started

2009-12-08 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

2009/12/8 Claudio Saavedra csaave...@igalia.com:
 I noticed that the postinst script was missing the debhelper token used
 by dh_installxsession to plug its magic. Now the Xsession script should
 be installed properly.

 I pushed a new package to the autobuilder queue already.

thank you so much Claudio!

p.s: I was thinking about writing a very simple GUI in Python/Gtk to
let the user enter his username and password, generate the md5sum
automatically and create the .mafw-lastfm, do you think this could be
useful? If you're already working on it I won't start working on it.

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Re: mafw-lasftm: installed, configured, restarted the device, but plugin is not started

2009-12-08 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

2009/12/8 Claudio Saavedra csaave...@igalia.com:
 El mar, 08-12-2009 a las 18:30 +0100, Andrea Grandi escribió:

 p.s: I was thinking about writing a very simple GUI in Python/Gtk to
 let the user enter his username and password, generate the md5sum
 automatically and create the .mafw-lastfm, do you think this could be
 useful? If you're already working on it I won't start working on it.

 There is already a control panel applet for this since 0.0.2.

doh! I created the file by hand :\
Really didn't know anything about it, sorry.

Ok, I'll test the incoming version and maybe I'll write a little blog
post to let the people know about it and how it works.

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Re: mafw-lasftm: installed, configured, restarted the device, but plugin is not started

2009-12-08 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

2009/12/8 Claudio Saavedra csaave...@igalia.com:
 I pushed a new package to the autobuilder queue already.

I'm testing the new package right now. After installing it I had to
start it manually from N900 terminal, but it's working because last.fm
website is displaying in realtime what I'm listening to.

A couple of question now:

1) How can I start it automatically without having to start it manually?

2) If I'm listening to some music but I don't have any connection at
the moment, are the tracks queued to be scrobbled once I get an
Internet connection?

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Re: mafw-lasftm: installed, configured, restarted the device, but plugin is not started

2009-12-08 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

2009/12/8 Claudio Saavedra csaave...@igalia.com:
 1) How can I start it automatically without having to start it manually?

 It should do already, after installation, and on the session start
 (after the X session is ready).

it didn't after installation, but it did after a device restart

 Yes, tracks are queued. Once there is a connection available, the queue
 is flushed and the tracks are sent to last.fm. This doesn't happen
 immediately after the connection is available, though, but only when you
 start listening again. This could be improved.

yes, I've noticed looking in the terminal debug messages that it keeps
doubling the time of retry. It could just check for internet
connection every 60 or 120 seconds (maybe configurable by user).

 Another limitation is that the queue is not serialized, so if the
 process is terminated for any reason, the queue will be emptied. This is
 also important to fix.

I don't know how much data you have to save for every song scrobbled,
but what about sqlite?

p.s: in the configuration dialog, before launching the GUI, the icon is missing.

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Re: mafw-lasftm: installed, configured, restarted the device, but plugin is not started

2009-12-08 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

another idea: what about displaying Listening with Nokia N900
instead of Listening with mafw-lastfm ?

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Re: Any new information on Developer Device Program?

2009-12-08 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

2009/12/8 Marius Gedminas mar...@pov.lt:
 Today I received an email from the N900 Developer Device Program saying
 that it is finally in stock and can be ordered.

me too, I ordered it since they wrote to order it before the 21 of december.

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Maemo Barcelona: Shared Room Allocations

2009-12-02 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi all,

I was looking to this table:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo-Barcelona_Long_Weekend/Accommodation

I see that there are still 6 available slots in the room allocation
table. Are there 6 non assigned room because we're only 24 sponsored
people or not all sponsored people have signed their name into this
table? If it's this second case, please write your name in one of the
available slots.

Best regards,

p.s: sorry for cross-posting, but I don't have access to the list of
all subscribed people email addresses.

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Re: N900 GPS Problems

2009-11-30 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

2009/11/30 Alberto Garcia agar...@igalia.com:
 With an internet connection available, though, this one is very fast
 (10 seconds). And looking at how the Maps application is, I think
 it's meant to be used with a data plan. Otherwise it's not very
 useful.

same for me, but Maps (even if is the worst map application after N810
Maps) doesn't need an internet connection because you can pre-load the
maps downloading them from OVI servers.

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Re: SVN problems on garage

2009-11-23 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

2009/11/23 Till Harbaum / Lists li...@harbaum.org:
 Hi,

 no problems here, can check in changes and new files as usual.

 Till

what version of svn client do you have? Where do you chek your sources
from, using the svn client provided with scratchbox or using your
distro one?

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Re: [Fwd: Re: Maemo Barcelona Weekend: best way to ask for help for a UI?]

2009-11-22 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

2009/11/22 Thomas Perl th.p...@gmail.com:
 Maybe we should have a map of people and technologies on the Wiki
 so that when one needs (technical) help with a specific technology, he/she
 can look up the name of persons that have worked with that technology
 before? Ideally, everyone can then add technologies they are working with
 (Qt, GStreamer, GTK+, Hildon, Python, ...), so everyone can make the
 best use of the time at the event..

 Would such a wiki page make sense? Would attending developers be
 interested in adding their fields of work/interest to such a page?

+1 for me!

I think it would be very useful!

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Re: PyMaemo (Python for Maemo) final release for Maemo 5 (Fremantle)

2009-11-10 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

2009/11/10 Anderson Lizardo anderson.liza...@openbossa.org:
 Hi,

 The PyMaemo team is pleased to announce the final release of PyMaemo
 for Maemo 5!

really thank you guys :)

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UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona: confirmed!

2009-11-03 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi all,

Quim just confirmed the UX hackfest in Barcelona for 4, 5, 6 december:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=33719

What is UX hackfest?
It's a three days meeting for Maemo developers, UX experts and people
who want to learn about designing good user interfaces.

When?
On 4, 5, 6 december 2009

Where?
Barcelona, Spain. The exact location has still to be confirmed, but it
should be http://citilab.eu

How many people invited?
About 50 people invited (Maemo developers, UX experts, ecc)

If you are a Maemo developer and you have good user interface designer
skills, this is the place for you.
If you are a Maemo developer and you are not a UX expert, this IS
anyway the place for you: you'll have the possibility to talk with
experts and improve your knowledge about UI design.

Anyone interested, please join the discussion here:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=33719

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Re: QA process = bug fixing disincentive?

2009-10-31 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

2009/10/31 Andrew Flegg and...@bleb.org:
 Hi,

 After working 'til stupid o'clock last night on a new version of Hermes, 
 today someone's found a bug which'll impact a small number of people. The fix 
 is trivial.

 However, I find myself *not* wanting to fix it as it'll need to go through 
 another round of testing.

 Although the principle of resetting package karma to 0 made some sense - as 
 any change could fundamentally break the package - it's also true that a 
 one-line change to a relatively mature package probably won't change whether 
 it's optified; its power usage profile; its package description and icon etc.

 Perhaps there's an argument that some proportion of the karma earned should 
 be retained, inversely related to length of time in -testing so far?

I strongly agree with you. I've not released anything yet in Maemo
repository but I'll do it soon, I hope the whole experience won't be
too much frustrating :\

By the way, I've upgraded to Hermes 0.2 but I haven't used it yet,
what is the bug you're talking about?

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Re: QA process = bug fixing disincentive?

2009-10-31 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

2009/10/31 Attila Csipa ma...@csipa.in.rs:
 There is a definitely a conflict there. I support Jeremiah's suggestion that
 minor packaging/typo fixes that do not alter app functionality (e.g. when you
 go from 1.0-maemo0 to 1.0-maemo1) should not reset app karma. Should require
 some discipline so people would not abuse this, but still better than forcing
 releases to be spaced 10+ days no matter how large the changes or how simple
 the fix.

even more important: what if developer/users find a security bug that
should really be fixed as soon as possible?
In a normal Linux distribution, patched package is released and
available after few hours. Here it would pass lot of time before final
user can apply the patch.

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Updated DevHelp files for Hildon, PyMaemo, Fremantle ecc....

2009-10-30 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi all,

where can I find updated devhelp file to have Hildon, PyMaemo and all
Fremantle libraries help in DevHelp, under Ubuntu?

For some things I still can use normal GTK and PyGtk help, but of
course Fremantle has more libraries+bindings than a normal Linux
distribution, so I'm missing that in this moment.

Thanks for your help! :)

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How about upgrading bandwidth for maemo.org?

2009-10-29 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi all,

maybe the growing interest for N900 made lot of users/developers to
visit maemo.org website more than ever.
For this reason maemo.org is getting so slow in these days... wiki,
planet, garage ecc... all these components are affected by slowness.

It would be great to think about upgrading maemo.org bandwidth or move
it to a new (faster) server.

Is it already in your plans? Any roadmap about this?

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Re: RE: How about upgrading bandwidth for maemo.org?

2009-10-29 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

2009/10/29  tero.k...@nokia.com:
 It is quite obvious sitting here when people wake up and when they get home 
 from work. The worst moments seem to be Europe spending it's nights on 
 maemo.org at the same time as the US east coast is at work peeking at the 
 site and west coast waking and logging in :-)

you really didn't imagine that N900 had taken all this interest in Maemo :) ?

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Re: Changing Freemantle Desktop Backgrounds

2009-10-22 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

2009/10/22 Kimmo Hämäläinen kimmo.hamalai...@nokia.com:
 On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 01:36 +0200, ext Jonathan Blake wrote:
 First post here, so greetings, etc. :)

 First things first, it's Fremantle, the code names come from a list of
 winds:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_local_winds

wow! really didn't know :)

let's try to guess the codename that will follow Harmattan ;)

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Re: Using the sharing plugins

2009-10-22 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

2009/10/22 Aniello Del Sorbo ani...@gmail.com:
 No updates.. there should be a Sharing Service that should pop up the
 sharing dialog, but I can't seem to find the DBUS signature to call
 it. If any.

 Any help?
 Ideas?

 Am I the only one who wants to share a file from his own application? :)

no, you're not :)

for these reason we (me and another person) are cooking a LGPL
library written in Qt4/C++ to allow people to share photos on Flickr,
Facebook, Picasa, Twitpic ecc... :)

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Re: Using the sharing plugins

2009-10-22 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

2009/10/22 Aniello Del Sorbo ani...@gmail.com:
 it's good to have alternatives anyway.
 But for now I'd like to stick with the Nokia provided one for one single 
 reason:

 it's already implemented and works with the plugins from facebook,
 pixelpipe, evernote and more to come.

 I'll keep an eye on yours, though.

if you want to help us, please tell me :)

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Nokia N900 cannot connect to WPA2 + PEAP + MSCHAPv2 Wifi Networks

2009-10-13 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi, I'm trying to connect my N900 to the wifi network of the
Universidad Politecnica de Valencia and I'm not able to connect.

I'm able to connect without problems if I use both Ubuntu 9.04 or 9.10 Beta.

These are the parameters I'm choosin during connection:

ESSID: UPVNET2G
EAP Type: PEAP
Certificate: none (trying to install it directly tells me that it's
already installed, anyway I don't think it's mandatory, it's just for
our security).
EAP Mode: EAP MSCHAPv2

Username: ALUMNO\angra4 (I also tried ang...@alumno.upv.es and
ang...@inf.upv.es with no success)
Password: ***

The error I'm getting is: Authentication failed, retry?

I was getting the same error with my N810 :(

Is there any way to fix this problem?

p.s: if you need more technical information about our network, you can
find them here: http://www.upv.es/doc/wifi
and here: 
http://www.upv.es/contenidos/miw/infoweb/infoacceso/dat/707687normalc.html

p.p.s: if you cannot understand/translate from spanish I can do it for you.

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Re: Nokia N900 cannot connect to WPA2 + PEAP + MSCHAPv2 Wifi Networks

2009-10-13 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

2009/10/13 Vivia Nikolaidou vi...@ee.auth.gr:
 Confirmed. It's in advanced settings, called manual user name. To me, it
 worked as u...@host.name and not as DOMAIN\user , in both fields.

 If this fails too, try the certificate.

confirmed for me too :)

Going to EAP advanced settings and using ang...@alumno as username I
was able to connect! Wow :)

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Re: Nokia N900 cannot connect to WPA2 + PEAP + MSCHAPv2 Wifi Networks

2009-10-13 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

2009/10/13 Andre Klapper aklap...@openismus.com:
 Feel encouraged to also add this piece of knowledge to
 https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1635 :)

 andre

no wait :(

I really talked too fast! Connection manager has a lot of problems, in
my hopinion
first of all I got disconnected lot of times... then I was able to
connect again but the connection manager said my status was
disconnected, even if I was chatting on Gtalk... so I think there are
some more problems.

Please don't take my previous reply like a workaround.

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Re: Nokia N900 cannot connect to WPA2 + PEAP + MSCHAPv2 Wifi Networks

2009-10-13 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

2009/10/13 Valerio Valerio vdv...@gmail.com:
 this issues can be related to the power saving settings, I had the same
 problems with some routers.
 Go to Settings - Internet connections - Connections, then choose the
 connection and hit the edit button, follow the setup till the end. At the
 end you'll see the advanced configurations button, go to the third
 tab(others) and change the power saving settings (this can drain your
 battery much faster).

ah cool! Today it lasted only 6 hours with power saving on :(

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Maemo Summit 2009: add your travel information to the wiki!

2009-10-07 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi all,

I just want to remember to all of you that we all should add our
travelling information on this page:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_Summit_2009/Travel

See ya all at the Summit! :)

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Re: Maemo Summit 2009: add your travel information to the wiki!

2009-10-07 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

2009/10/7 Dieter Plaetinck die...@plaetinck.be:
 I don't think everyone should do it.
 I, for instance, am not important enough ;)

everyone in the Community is important :)

but of course you're free not to add yourself if you want more privacy :P

 Btw, where will you guys hang out thursday evening? at the conf ?

I think there will be a beer meeting at 19:00 tomorrow! Read Maemo
Planet for more info.

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Re: mafw-lastfm 0.0.1

2009-10-02 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

2009/10/2 Claudio Saavedra csaave...@igalia.com:
 [Since this is the initial release, I think it's OK to make a heads up
 in this mailing, in case anyone else is interested in cooperating with
 this project]

 mafw-lastfm is a last.fm scrobbler for maemo devices using the Media
 Application Framework, like the N900. This is its the initial release.
 It basically works: it sets your playing-now status and it scrobbles.

 For setup instructions, consult the README file.

great job Claudio!!!

I hope to be able to test it as soon as possible ;)

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Re: Asking for developers and user support for a N900 application

2009-09-30 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

2009/9/29 Adrián Yanes de...@ayanes.com:
 Hi Andrea, I think that the idea of make a program for check the credit sale
 it's very nice.

 But I can't understand why you choose the option of check via web and not
 use the GSM commands.

my idea is to substitute current procedure of login into the carrier's
website, browsing it ecc so basically this library is a substitute
for this procedure. My idea is not only to provide available credit,
but also giving other informations like: available SMS (if there's a
particular promotion active), kbytes of Internet data consumed, ecc...
all information that you can find in your own personal panel.. don't
think you can get them from a GSM command.

About GSM commands, I already asked for some information but I didn't
get any reply (I'll add more question):

1) Are GSM commands supported by ALL operators?

2) What are, for example, GSM commands of spanish Simyo carrier?

3) How can I manage GSM commands from Python?

4) Can you provide me a working example of GSM command?

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Re: Asking for developers and user support for a N900 application

2009-09-30 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

2009/9/30 Cornelius Hald h...@icandy.de:
 On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 10:07 +0200, Andrea Grandi wrote:
 2) What are, for example, GSM commands of spanish Simyo carrier?

 Not sure if that helps you, but *100# it is for German Simyo. Maybe just
 give it a try :)

composing: *100#
on my N73 using spanish Simyo doesn't work... it replies Incomplete
request or something similar.

Let's say this: GSM support for my python library is welcome, so end
user/developer will be able to CHOOSE what it wants, but I really need
a complete documentation of this stuff and a way to use these GSM
commands from Python, and... yes, a REAL N900 would be nice to test
all this stuff :)

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Re: Asking for developers and user support for a N900 application

2009-09-30 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

2009/9/30 Cornelius Hald h...@icandy.de:
 Here is some more information:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unstructured_Supplementary_Service_Data
 http://www.geckobeach.com/cellular/secrets/gsmcodes.php

 But yea, you need a way of dialing numbers from python and of getting
 the result back. Not sure if that is possible. At least I've seen no API
 for that.

I could try to provide a python binding if the C API would be
available, but I don't think we have access to these API at the
moment...

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Re: Asking for developers and user support for a N900 application

2009-09-30 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

2009/9/30 Valerio Valerio vdv...@gmail.com:
 Probably not officially released, but exists. One of the hack of the PUSH
 N900 project[1] used it to send SMS's (see Speak  Spell hack).

 When you complete a text message, the D-Bus messaging service is used to
 send your message to the phone number that you entered.

 [1] -
 http://tinker.it/now/2009/09/15/rewind-rethinking-old-school-devices-using-the-nokia-n900/

I really don't want to use not officially supported API or any other
similar stuff, since they would have no tech support nor documentation
ecc

I'll keep developing my lib in the way I've thinked about it.

If some one else want to add GSM support is welcome to join the
project or start a new one, but I'll keep developing in this way.

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Re: Asking for developers and user support for a N900 application

2009-09-28 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi all!

Sorry for this long delay, I didn't abandon the idea, I was just very busy :)
I've started working to the library and at the moment I've a very
preliminary version of it, supporting only Simyo (Spain).

You can find the code (brutally copy-pasted) here:

CreditChecker.py: http://pastebin.com/m71ad1fa4
SimyoES.py: http://pastebin.com/m61e05f5

CreditChecker is the base class, with some methods that should be
common to all classes and SimyoES is the derived class. My idea is
that all carriers should be (possibly) implemented deriving from the
base class and following more or less the same structure.

Support for catching/managing exceptions is still missing.

A question: is CreditChecker or libcreditchecker a good name? Any
other name to suggest to this library? I'd like to register this
project somewhere but first I'd like to be sure about the name :)

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Re: Asking for developers and user support for a N900 application

2009-09-28 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

2009/9/28 Thomas Perl th.p...@gmail.com:
 According to PEP-8[1], package and module names should have
 short, all-lowercase names. so maybe you can rename the module
 CreditChecker to credit_checker while retaining the name for the
 class in it (PEP-8: class names use the CapWords convention).

 Also, the function names should have a different style, as PEP-8
 says: lowercase, with words separated by underscores.

 Thomas

 [1] http://python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/

thanks for your tips! I'll do these changes as soon as possible (tonight :P )

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Re: Asking for developers and user support for a N900 application

2009-09-28 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

2009/9/28 Adrián Yanes de...@ayanes.com:
 Hi Andrea, the idea looks nice. But I think that the problem it´s some
 companies use flash technology for show the credit sale in their websites.

can you show me some of these companies that only use Flash?

 I think that other option it´s program a fronted ( in python or C, with GTK
 or Qt ) that use the specif commands for GSM (like *100#) and obtain the
 credit sale with this. Probably will be more fast  cheaper (normally check
 the credit sale with this commands it's free).

 We only need a little db with the different codes from the countries and
 companies for obtain the credit sale.

your is a good idea, but for example my carriers doesn't support this
(Tre Italia, Simyo ecc...) as far as I know. So this would fix the
problem for Flash website but would broke carriers I use :P

So, I'm going to continue on this way, regarding this library, but of
course when I'll create the N900 application too, I'll consider any
kind of library, to be able to support as much carriers as I can.

Thanks for your help!

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Re: Asking for developers and user support for a N900 application

2009-09-28 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

2009/9/28 Thomas Perl th.p...@gmail.com:
 2009/9/28 Andrea Grandi a.gra...@gmail.com:
 A question: is CreditChecker or libcreditchecker a good name? Any
 other name to suggest to this library? I'd like to register this
 project somewhere but first I'd like to be sure about the name :)

 I don't have a better suggestion for the name (don't put lib in front
 of it if possible), but some naming style remarks for the code:

 According to PEP-8[1], package and module names should have
 short, all-lowercase names. so maybe you can rename the module
 CreditChecker to credit_checker while retaining the name for the
 class in it (PEP-8: class names use the CapWords convention).

 Also, the function names should have a different style, as PEP-8
 says: lowercase, with words separated by underscores.

I was trying to fix all the names, as you suggested, but I'm
noticing this:
neither Python classes follow this rules :(

For example:

from HTMLParser import HTMLParser --- package name in upper case...
urllib2.Request(url, data)  method name in upper case...

first they suggest name convention and then they're the first one not
following them? This really sucks :)

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Re: Asking for developers and user support for a N900 application

2009-09-28 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

2009/9/28 Thomas Perl th.p...@gmail.com:
 They can't just change the naming for the standard library, as this
 would (obviously) break old code. Most likely these libraries have been
 around longer than PEP-8 has ;) I feel a bit bad about this, too, but
 at least it has been fixed in Python 3000 (as the API break allows for
 such changes):

 http://docs.python.org/dev/3.0/whatsnew/3.0.html#library-changes

 In Python 3.x, the HTMLParser module has been renamed to html.parser:

 http://docs.python.org/dev/py3k/library/html.parser.html

good news then ;)
but... yes... I expect developers will take some times before starting
to use Python 3000 (what a bad name too!)

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Re: Asking for developers and user support for a N900 application

2009-09-28 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi all

the Credit Checker library is now hosted here:
http://code.google.com/p/creditchecker/

any help is welcome :)

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Re: problems updating repository fremantle

2009-09-24 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

2009/9/24 Gibran Rodriguez brangi...@gmail.com:
 Hello I have installed fremantle sdk

 but I can not get it updated the repository for x86 target, after the a
 fresh installation

 basically I get this



 [sbox-FREMANTLE_X86: ~]  apt-get update
 Err http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/sdk Release.gpg
   Temporary failure resolving 'repository.maemo.org'

 Err http://repository.maemo.org fremantle/tools Release.gpg
   Temporary failure resolving 'repository.maemo.org'

 Reading package lists... Done
 W: Failed to fetch
 http://repository.maemo.org/dists/fremantle/sdk/Release.gpg  Temporary
 failure resolving 'repository.maemo.org'

same error I had in these days :)

You only have to copy your /etc/resolv.conf to Scratchbox:

sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /scratchbox/etc/resolv.conf

that's all!

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Re: Asking for developers and user support for a N900 application

2009-09-06 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

2009/9/5 Thomas Perl th.p...@gmail.com:
 Great! I've been thinking about writing such an app myself for my
 carrier (Orange Austria), because they charge for sending me the
 current stats via SMS, but it's free on the web (using a data plan).

 Maybe we can join forces ;)

of course we can :)

I'll structure the code to make each carrier a different subclass.
Don't know how much code we'll be able to re-use but if someone wants
to add support for another carrier it won't be to much different and
will have lot of examples to look at.

 These links might be useful (the first for the login to the website
 part, the second for parsing the response):

 http://wwwsearch.sourceforge.net/mechanize/
 http://www.crummy.com/software/BeautifulSoup/

I'll give a look to them

 Oh, and maybe you can separate the UI and business logic so
 that we can also put a GTK/Hildon UI on top of the app for better
 Fremantle UI integration?

of course we can :)

I can do the Qt UI and you the GTK/Hildon one if you want.

p.s: at the moment we'll have a big problem: python2.5 included in
Fremantle is compiled without SSL support, so we cannot login to https
websites (almost all) :(

We can workaround for the moment, doing the development on our Linux
distributions and then, when PyMaemo team will fix this (I already
have submitted a bug entry) we'll be able to test this on Fremantle
too or directly (let's hope) into the final device.

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Re: [pymaemo] Asking for developers and user support for a N900application

2009-09-06 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

2009/9/6 Chris M. Clark chris.cl...@ingres.com:

 As well as Mechanize and BeautifulSoup also check out:

 http://scrapy.org/
 http://pypi.python.org/pypi/atropine

 These are frameworks that handle both (sort of like mechanize) the web
 access (login, authentication, cookies, etc) and the html parsing. Atropine
 uses BeautifulSoup for the later. Scrapy has some excellent looking docs. I
 can't claim to have used either of them though.

wow! those frameworks looks like to help a lot for our app :)
well, let's see if we can fix that annoying problem [1] as soon as possible.

[1]: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5102

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