Re: howto use usb keyboard with latest N810
Mrukant Popat mpopat at pioneer-pra.com writes: Is there any other solution to use usb keyboard with my N810 ? This question is probably more appropriate for -user. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: stlc45xx: open source WLAN driver for N800 and N810
John Holmblad jholmblad at acadiasecurenets.com writes: Also, is the wpa_supplicant a standard part of the Nokia OS200X or is it a maemo garage type of software component? Nokia ITOS uses a proprietary supplicant that is part of the closed-source ICD software. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: stlc45xx: open source WLAN driver for N800 and N810
Kalle Valo kalle.valo at nokia.com writes: I'm excited to announce a new project called stlc45xx, an open source WLAN driver for Nokia N800 and N810. This is wonderful news, it is one less proprietary component needed on the tablets. Now if you guys could just free DSME and BME, I'd have few complaints left. :P I recommend anyone interested about the project joining stlc45xx-devel. Unfortunately the garage project is closed currently, but it will be opened as soon as possible. Does this mean we cannot download the source code or does this mean that joining the mailing list and/or the garage project is closed? Also, since the tablets are currently using a 2.6.21 kernel, what is the recommended source tree (e.g. linux-omap) and/or version to upgrade so we can test the driver? Also, if you are free to answer this question, what is the officiality of this project? Is this done with the blessing of Conexant? Does anyone have access to documentation or is this all done by reverse engineering? Thanks, Andrew ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Battery status
On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 17:57 +0300, Harry Petas wrote: Hi! I would like to get the battery status of my device. Is there any way to get it from the terminal? Look at the code for Kagu[0]. There is some Python code in there that can be reused to create a simple script that will report the battery status from bme. [0] http://kagumedia.com/projects/kagu/browser/trunk/src/kagu/maemo.py Thank you very much, Harry ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- Andrew Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED] (614) 581-3537 (Verizon Wireless) ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
key press/release behavior of the Menu key
I have noticed something strange when playing with Xomap under GPE on my N800 tablet (Angstrom distribution on an SD card). All keys except the Menu key behave as one might expect, sending a KeyPress and KeyRelease event when that event occurs. Menu sends both at once when the button is depressed and nothing is sent on key-up. Can someone comment on this behavior, if it's not a fluke of my software environment? It seems to screw up keylaunch in particular. The Xomap server is from Maemo 4.x, version 1.3.99. Built via BitBake using the recipe and patches from the Mamona project. The kernel is the official Nokia binary from the latest ITOS firmware. -- Andrew Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED] (614) 581-3537 (Verizon Wireless) ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: wpa_supplicant and cx3110x
On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 00:18 +0300, Siarhei Siamashka wrote: BTW, there is a set of community enhancements and patches for cx3110x driver (Nokia 770 version) collected together by Rodrigo Vivi and posted here: https://garage.maemo.org/pipermail/cx3110x-devel/2008-April/38.html The cx3110x.patch from that link implements the required parts of WE-18 for the driver and fixes the problem for me. Thanks! -- Andrew Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED] (614) 581-3537 (Verizon Wireless) ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
wpa_supplicant and cx3110x
Hello, I am using an N800 running Angstrom[0] booting off of an SD card, using an initfs modified to multiboot as is documented on the wiki[1]. I am having some trouble getting wpa_supplicant to authenticate on my WPA-EAP (PEAP-MSCHAPv2/TKIP) home network. This works fine in the Internet Tablet OS provided power management is turned off (something is apparently wrong with 802.11 PSM on my AP). It appears to be off by default when the tablet is booted into Angstrom (/sys/devices/platform/wlan-omap/psm is '0'). The EAP auth seems to work ok (eap_state in 'wpa_cli stat' is SUCCESS) but the crypto gets hung up at 4WAY_HANDSHAKE and times out. I have observed this on my own home network and at least one other similar network at my school. I am using wpa_supplicant 0.6.3 linked with openssl (also tested 0.5.5 linked with gnutls) and the 'wext' driver. The cx3110x driver is the one shipped in the initfs for the latest official Nokia firmware. I can provide packet captures and similar debugging info, perhaps the maintainer of the driver can help me out with this? The last message I saw concerning this was from late 2007, talking about running wpa_supplicant under ITOS and this was not yet supported as cx3110x did not yet support WE-18 or later. This appears to no longer be the case, as /proc/net/wireless indicates WE-22 and no version mismatch messages are printed by iwconfig. Also, the output of 'iwlist wlan0 scan' has WPA info, which indicates to me that WPA via Wireless Extensions _should_ work. Thanks for any help. [0] http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/ [1] http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HowTo_EASILY_Boot_From_MMC_card/ -- Andrew Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED] (614) 581-3537 (Verizon Wireless) ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: n810: Light Sensor (?)
Luca De Cicco wrote: Hi there to the list. Sorry if ask something which has been already discussed... I was wondering if there is some specification about the small thing near the camera which appears to be a Light Sensor. Your best bet is to hook up SSH or an xterm or something and poke around the filesystem. I imagine Nokia are going to be closed-mouthed about it for the time being like they were with the FM radio in the N800. Alternatively looking at kernel sources would be a good idea. -- Andrew Barr Now Playing: Matchbox Twenty - Rest Stop ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
UVC driver for N800?
Are there any concrete plans to create a UVC gadget driver for the N800? I want to buy a webcam for my laptop but if there are any plans to create the ability to use the N800 as a desktop/laptop webcam I will not and use my N800 instead. -- Andrew Barr My life is an open book, but I'm not going to read it to you. -- David Hyde Pierce ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: RE : Re: Qustion about WLAN API
On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 09:20 +0100, magda chelly wrote: Hello, I'm a student preparing a project on Nokia N800, and,in fact, I'm working also on WLAN. Exactly, I must extract the signal strengh from the device. Can you advise me how to do? Pretty easy to do with the Wireless Extensions API for Linux. Do some Google searching on WE and libiw. Nokia also has some documentation for their official API here: http://www.maemo.org/platform/docs/howtos/howto_connectivity_guide_bora.html It may be possible using that, and if it is it's likely preferable that you use that. Thank you for you answer. Yours faithfully, Magda, ___ Découvrez une nouvelle façon d'obtenir des réponses à toutes vos questions ! Profitez des connaissances, des opinions et des expériences des internautes sur Yahoo! Questions/Réponses http://fr.answers.yahoo.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Qustion about WLAN API
On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 21:01 -0500, Michael Matalon wrote: Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows where I can get the API for the WLAN so that I can develop to it? Um, what is it you want to do, exactly? There's the kernel Wireless Extensions (WE) API but I think Nokia prefers that application developers use the D-BUS APIs or whatever libfoo wrappers are available for that. It depends on what you want to do which will do what you want. Thanks Michael ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- Andrew Barr | http://www.pridelands.dyndns.org/ panthera leo anthro My life is an open book, but I'm not going to read it to you. -- David Hyde Pierce ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Javascript support on N800 Browser?
On Sat, 2007-02-24 at 22:50 -0500, Acadia Secure Networks wrote: All, does the www browser on the N800 fully and correctly implement javascript? If it does not it is unlikely that you, I, or even Nokia can do much about it, Opera is proprietary software and judging by comments made by Nokia people on this list and elsewhere not even they have the source code... However... I have a www site that I can visit with the Firefox (2.0.0.2) Browser running on Windows XP Pro SP2 and successfully download and upload files from/to the www site. The www site uses javascript. ...If Mozilla works properly you should investigate Minimo, which is Mozilla for embedded devices. It ran fine on the 770 (I used it myself for a while), I am unsure of what the status of any N800 port is. However, when I attempt to do this from the N800 www browser, the upload and download, although it seems to work, results in corrupted files on the receiving side when the receiving side is the N800. On the other hand I seem to be able to upload files from the N800 to the www site most (but still less than 100%) of the time. Many people use(d) Minimo for these exact reasons, the superior JavaScript implementation (Netscape invented JS after all) worked well for AJAX or other JS-heavy sites like Gmail. Opera gets crashy when you tax it's JS engine. -- Best Regards, John Holmblad ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- Andrew Barr My life is an open book, but I'm not going to read it to you. -- David Hyde Pierce ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: N800 Camera Motion Detector w/HTTP server
On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 11:25 -0700, Jeremiah Summers wrote: To configure via the web, load Opera and hit the N800 on port 8080 why is opera necessary? Would it also be possible to connect to the N800 on port 8080 from another computer using, say Firefox? Because Opera is on the N800 by default not FireFox! (sorry I normally just listen but this was to obvious) Um, he's asking if he can connect to the server from another computer (e.g. he wants to know if the server on the N800 is just listening on localhost or not) It has nothing to do with the browser used. But that was obvious to me. ;-) -- Andrew Barr My life is an open book, but I'm not going to read it to you. -- David Hyde Pierce ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: N800 WLAN driver sources
On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 16:51 +0200, Kalle Valo wrote: I just released a source package of the N800 WLAN driver: https://garage.maemo.org/frs/?group_id=12 Please send any questions to this list and also CC me, so that I don't miss it. Is this driver seriously truly open source--e.g. I don't see any binary objects in the tarball--and if so will it work on the 770 too? Color me impressed. -- Andrew Barr My life is an open book, but I'm not going to read it to you. -- David Hyde Pierce ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Visual Boy Advance on the N800
Hi, I tried Visual Boy Advance on the N800 and the hardware keys seem to not work. Have the key mappings for SDL changed from the 770 to the N800 or is something else wrong? Thanks, -- Andrew Barr My life is an open book, but I'm not going to read it to you. -- David Hyde Pierce ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Visual Boy Advance on the N800
On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 13:39 -0600, Levi Bard wrote: I tried Visual Boy Advance on the N800 and the hardware keys seem to not work. Have the key mappings for SDL changed from the 770 to the N800 or is something else wrong? AFAIK there were no key mapping changes - I gave it a spin on the N800 last night, and was able to run Zelda(too slowly) and Advance Wars. What version of VBA do you have? What game(s) are you using? I have the version available from the Maemo 'bora' repositories. I think it is 1.7.2maemo(something). However, it seems that it was a window focus issue or some such. I seem to have solved it by tapping on the screen to focus the SDL window. User error, I imagine. . -- Andrew Barr | http://www.pridelands.dyndns.org/ panthera leo anthro My life is an open book, but I'm not going to read it to you. -- David Hyde Pierce ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Porting Qt to Maemo
On Wed, 2007-02-07 at 15:23 -0800, Shawn Gordon wrote: oh man, you're opening a can of worms with this one. I really wish Nokia had used Qt because we have a big library of apps for Qt/Embedded (or whatever it is called now), it just seems like Maemo is never quite done. To be quite frank, I imagine it was licensing that caused Nokia to choose GTK+ over Qt. But that's another debate. On the other hand, there are already a large number of free software GTK + apps that are ported fairly easily to Maemo. There are precious few free software projects that use Qt (or C++ for that matter) outside of KDE--at least ones that would be considered candidates for running on the Nokia tablets. This was probably also a factor--not as much work is required to leverage already-existing applications for the tablets. Personally, I've grown rather fond of the GTK+-based handheld environments (Maemo and GPE) over Qtopia and Opie, which I used for a while on my Zaurus handhelds. I'm sure Trolltech's stonewalling of the GPLing of Qtopia 4, which basically led Opie to stagnate while GPE got better and better, didn't help my opinion either. That's just my preference. I don't see why anyone shouldn't try to port Qt to these devices...it would be an interesting technical exercise if nothing else. It would be nice if Nokia could open-source some more of the ITOS stack so that the community can have a little more flexibility in hacking at these tablets...regardless of your choice of GUI toolkit. Just my two cents, Andrew At 02:51 PM 2/7/2007, Andrea Grandi wrote: Hello, today I did a little test with Qt and Maemo 2.2 SDK. I recompiled Qt 4.2.2 into the Scratchbox with maemo 2.2 installed and I was able to run a little Qt-HelloWorld inside the emulator. I wonder if it would be possible to realize a real port of Qt into Maemo and make it run on Nokia 770/800. In my opinion this could be possible. We should strip out parts that are not necessary, for example: examples, documentation, headers and possibly other stuff like opengl, variuos db drivers ecc we should try to reduce the size the most we can. Once this is done, we could also write application using Qt/C++ and not only GTK/C. What do you think about this? Anyone is interested in this project and want to help me? Best regards, -- Andrea Grandi email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: http://www.ptlug.org ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers Regards, Shawn Gordon President theKompany.com www.thekompany.com www.mindawn.com 949-713-3276 ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- Andrew Barr My life is an open book, but I'm not going to read it to you. -- David Hyde Pierce ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] radio?!
On Wed, 2007-02-07 at 18:42 -0600, David Hagood wrote: Nokia JUST released an application that activates an FM radio chip in the unit. What's the license and where can I get it? :-) No, this isn't an April Fools - I'm listening to FM radio on my N800 right now. The application plugs into the desktop, so you have to activate it on the desktop rather than from the application menu. Nokia really kept that one under their hats - kudos. Indeed ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- Andrew Barr My life is an open book, but I'm not going to read it to you. -- David Hyde Pierce ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] radio?!
On 2/7/07, Andrew Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2007-02-07 at 18:42 -0600, David Hagood wrote: Nokia JUST released an application that activates an FM radio chip in the unit. What's the license and where can I get it? :-) Ummm, there's a click-through license *groans* That's not a good sign. Good news is that AFAIK the radio uses the V4L2 API so a free rewrite or port of existing code should not be such a big deal. Andrew ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] radio?!
On 2/7/07, David Hagood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For me, it just showed up in the applications manager when I did a refresh. The license seems to be a closed license from Nokia - however, the drivers are all exported to userspace, so I would guess that you could roll your own pretty easily. I suspect it has not cleared the legal department and Nokia wanted to put it in tablet owners' hands instead of waiting. There is no reason for such a thing not to be open source, there is absolutely _nothing_ secret here that I could think of... Lawyers, gotta love 'em. Andrew ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] apt-get 'could not resolve hostname' again
On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 19:45 +0100, Tim Teulings wrote: See my othe rthread, where I asked the same question. The answer by Andreas Oberritter was: I encountered the same error. Scratchbox seems to copy nsswitch.conf from /etc/nsswitch.conf. See below for my changes on my Ubuntu Feisty setup which solved the problem. -- /etc/nsswitch.conf 2007-01-11 22:01:14.0 +0100 +++ /scratchbox/etc/nsswitch.conf 2007-01-25 12:20:06.0 +0100 @@ -8,7 +8,7 @@ group: compat shadow: compat -hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4 +hosts: files dns That did the trick, thank you! Now it's time to port some software to this shiny new Nokia N800... Andrew networks: files protocols: db files -- Andrew Barr My life is an open book, but I'm not going to read it to you. -- David Hyde Pierce ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Does camera in N800 support X11 Xv extension?
Hi, My turn to offer you some help :-) On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 19:47 +0100, Tim Teulings wrote: Hallo! Subject says it all: Does the camera in the N800 support the X11 Xv extension, that mean can I use this extension for displaying images of the camera or must I use v4l V2 (what about the V1 interface) or gstreamer? The X server in the N800 supports Xv, IIRC from earlier postings either to this list or the Xorg list. As for the camera access API, I did some poking around /sys on my N800 last night and as far as I can tell the camera is a standard V4L2 device with an open driver. I say this because the camera driver does not appear to be a module, which is required of non-free kernel drivers due to licensing. If you used GStreamer, I imagine the input pipe would be v4l(2) and the output pipe Xv. I think standard camera apps should work reasonably well on the N800, but anyone from nokia.com or elsewhere is free to correct me for my semi-informed speculation... Regards, -- Andrew Barr My life is an open book, but I'm not going to read it to you. -- David Hyde Pierce ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] debhelper
It seems a lot of Debian source packages now require debhelper = 5. This is a PITA because Scratchbox only has 4.2.32 and as far as I can tell building it is going to be no small task...I am failing to build the dependency libmodule-build-perl. Is there any easy way around this or do I have to write my own Debian packaging metadata? That would be a shame because it seems to me that Maemo could greatly benefit from the vast array of Debian source packages that are already available from your favorite FTP mirror site. -- Andrew Barr My life is an open book, but I'm not going to read it to you. -- David Hyde Pierce ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Mildly concerned about order status
On 1/30/07, Jae Stutzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go to http://LetsTalk.com and do an order/status check if the Status field is empty, call them and ask them to Push your order through. Within a few minutes your status should say Picking. That is a good sign and should be shipped within 24hrs from then. This was my experience. It has shipped! Thank you again to the maemo and Nokia folks for including me in this program. I cannot express how pleasantly surprised I was to be included. Thanks again, Andrew Barr Jae ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Mildly concerned about order status
Hi, I know that as far as Maemo vs. Nokia is concerned in the N800 developer program, we need to be talking to the web shop folks at Nokia USA, however I would like to solicit reactions from those in the US and maybe Canada who have placed orders for N800s under the developer device program. I placed my order on Friday after the credit-card processing issues were cleared up. It is now Tuesday and my order status page has stayed like this[0] since Friday. I read someone's post saying that these discounts needed management approval, could that be what I am waiting on? On the other hand, I also read that someone had their order on the web shop /appear/ to go through but they had to re-place the order over the phone. I would rather not navigate the phone maze again and have to explain to every last person why I think I should get a $400 computer for $125, so if anyone could give me an idea of what might be going on here, I'd appreciate it. [0] http://www.oakcourt.dyndns.org/~andrew/screenshots/n800_order_status.png -- Andrew Barr | http://www.pridelands.dyndns.org/ My life is an open book, but I'm not going to read it to you. -- David Hyde Pierce ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Re: what's a libconic0?
Hi, On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 20:10 +0200, Kalle Vahlman wrote: 2007/1/27, Danny Milosavljevic [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 00:56:15 -0800, Kalle Vahlman wrote: It's the Internet Connectivity library: Does this mean the proprietary osso-ic stuff is gone in IT2007? -- Andrew Barr | http://www.pridelands.dyndns.org/ panthera leo anthro My life is an open book, but I'm not going to read it to you. -- David Hyde Pierce ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] This Nokia N800 discount code is for you
On 1/25/07, Aaron Levinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I called the number after I encountered the same problem--the person I spoke to said that there are currently problems processing the code (someone had already called). It doesn't seem to have anything to do with the credit card. He said that he will call me back, probably by the end of the day, when the problems are sorted out. Sheesh, at least your fellow knew what was going on...do let me know what happens because all I got we're people who wanted my mobile phone number (again with the Nokia == phone thing...) and pronounced 'maemo' like it was the name of a newly discovered galaxy... :-) At any rate, color me surprised (and grateful) for any code at all... Andrew Aaron ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] This Nokia N800 discount code is for you
On 1/25/07, Larry Battraw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Warning-- do NOT empty your cart like I did. I got the exact same message and when I called the help desk I got passed to three different people, all of which said they couldn't help me. I tried emptying my cart to see if that would help in letting them process the code, but no dice. Once you enter the code (Whether the order completes or not!) it's locked out and no longer valid. I now had to find some kind soul on the Maemo team and try to convince them I really didn't use my code :-( So can I use these codes on the web or not? I've talked to at least three different people, including one in level 2 support at the number previously mentioned in this thread. I'd just as soon order off the web rather than have people tell me they have no idea what Maemo is every time I tell them where the discount code came from... Andrew ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] This Nokia N800 discount code is for you
On Thu, 2007-01-25 at 15:55 -0500, Brian Waite wrote: Larry, I am willing to bet your code works. The code is not valid at the Nokia US store. Although it registers, you cannot complete the transaction. (Credit Card verification failure. Read my post from before you can call and get it taken care of or wait. I bet by Monday they have it working right . I have successfully ordered mine! I'll bet it could have worked earlier, but I discovered I was providing the wrong CC2 code from the formhistory for that credit card number :( All is well for me now, so I encourage everyone in the US who was having problems to try again. I'm off to class now. Regards, Andrew Barr Thanks Brian On Thursday 25 January 2007 15:30, Larry Battraw wrote: Warning-- do NOT empty your cart like I did. I got the exact same message and when I called the help desk I got passed to three different people, all of which said they couldn't help me. I tried emptying my cart to see if that would help in letting them process the code, but no dice. Once you enter the code (Whether the order completes or not!) it's locked out and no longer valid. I now had to find some kind soul on the Maemo team and try to convince them I really didn't use my code :-( Larry On 1/25/07, Aaron Levinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 25 Jan 2007, Andrew Barr wrote: On Thu, 2007-01-25 at 19:16 +0100, Aniello Del Sorbo wrote: I got it!! me too Thanks VERY MUCH Maemo Team! ack Really really really thank you! It was REALLY unexpected :) to say the least Ordered already. Can't wait to get it! sadly, I am having issues here and the phone people aren't much help. :-( The error I get when I submit my order: There was an error in processing your credit-card for this purchase. Your card has not been charged. Please contact us directly at 1-866-59NOKIA (1-866-596-6542). I've tried three different cards :-( USA based address, USA based card, at nokiausa.com... I called the number after I encountered the same problem--the person I spoke to said that there are currently problems processing the code (someone had already called). It doesn't seem to have anything to do with the credit card. He said that he will call me back, probably by the end of the day, when the problems are sorted out. Aaron ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- Andrew Barr | http://www.pridelands.dyndns.org/ panthera leo anthro My life is an open book, but I'm not going to read it to you. -- David Hyde Pierce ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] OS X Flasher for the N800?
On Fri, 2007-01-19 at 11:08 -0500, Sean Luke wrote: Last: is there a reason the flasher utility isn't open source? [or am I being brain-damaged here, and it already is?] Nokia, as per usual, has nothing to say about this but the speculation is that the flashing protocol is used by their mobile phones as well and hence they do not want that out there...of course it may already be, knowing how well these kind of secrets are often kept. There is a 'usbtest' kernel module in the initfs that I suspect implements the device-side part of this protocol. I think it is loaded for a few seconds at startup, probably before pivoting to the rootfs...hence the reason you have to restart the device to flash it. After the rootfs loads the g_file_storage gadget driver is used for USB connections. It would be nice if there was some way to flash the device from a memory card, like the Zaurus does. No need for proprietary binaries to upgrade what was sold as an open source, or Linux-powered at any rate, device. Sean ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] OS2006 roadmap
On Wed, 2007-01-10 at 12:30 -0500, Dave Neuer wrote: ... Well put, thanks. I agreed with every word. Andrew Dave ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] OS2006 roadmap
On Tue, 2007-01-09 at 20:58 +0100, Frantisek Dufka wrote: BTW I was a bit surprised how unmercifully Dr. Ari Jaaksi killed n770's future. It was pretty tough :-) Also it doesn't send good message to users and developers considering the platform. Well, life is hard. Time will tell if it was good move. At $350 I see it as inexcusable. It's annoying when Linksys stops releasing firmware updates for buggy firmware in a $30 router, but it's a bit different in this case*. It seems that hardware vendors have no problem not caring about (or at least seriously neglecting) existing products, from a $30 router to a $2400 laptop (BIOS updates). This may be all fine and dandy with someone who has no problem dropping $400 on a N800 after they've only had their 770 for 18 months (and it's _great_ for Nokia as this person will probably blog about how cool it is), but some of us want our software to outlive the hardware, not the other way around. Personally, I'm going to seriously look into getting GPE on my 770 and partake of the cornucopia of Linux software ready-made from OpenEmbedded rather than see yet another disappointment from the Maemo platform. Andrew * Yes, yes. I know there will be more firmware updates, but I'm in wait-and-see mode tempered with our existing experience getting updates for the 770. Frantisek ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Nokia's Linux-powered N800 Internet Tablet sneaks out early
On 1/7/07, Koen Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew J. Barr schreef: I wish they'd have gotten a keyboard into this bad boy...one of the reasons I like my Zaurus a bit better (not to mention the 400MHz ARM processor). An omap 24xx at 320 MHz is insanely faster as any xscale, thanks to it's vfp, dsp, iva and unaligned access options. Well I learned something new. regards, Koen -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFoUM0MkyGM64RGpERArRuAJ96NlU5C7FljFZdTK4uh7Zn/caJWwCeII3c Hd1AU0tMTAvBPQ59/AwslTM= =TyPI -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Livejournal client for 770
Is anyone aware of a Livejournal client for Maemo, or, failing that, a small and simple GTK+ client that could be ported? -- Andrew Barr Men go crazy in congregations they only get better one by one. -- Sting, All This Time (The Soul Cages, 1991) ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] WMA streaming
Hello, What are my options for Windows Media Audio streams on the 770? Most Internet radio streams (I mean simulcasts of real broadcasts in this sense) are offered in (at least) this format, which is supported by free software (ffmpeg) up to version 2, the latest version I've ever seen anywhere. However, no one seems to have had any luck with third-party codecs on this device, much less for streaming. Is this device powerful enough to handle decoding audio streams using C or ARM-assembly codecs (from ffmpeg)? It's likely that the bitstream would be 16 to 24 kbps. I understand free tools for the DSP aren't quite there yet, so that may not be an option. -- Andrew Barr Men go crazy in congregations they only get better one by one. -- Sting, All This Time (The Soul Cages, 1991) ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Java on the 770
On Monday 13 November 2006 20:45, Victor Toni wrote: Now that Java will be put under the GPL is there any plan (from Nokia) to integrate it into the firmware? People would be glad even without the proprietary Jazelle extensions. Speaking of which, is this recent announcement any reason that we might finally get details on those? Or is ARM Ltd. going to continue to be asinine (IMHO) on that? And it would open the 770 to many more applications. Kindest regards, Victor ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- Andrew Barr Now playing: Sting - Jeremiah Blues (Part 1) ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] usbnet/MMC applet
Argh, what is the name of the package for the little UsbNet/MMC gadget changer applet that sits in the tray? I reflashed and now I can't find it to install. -- Andrew Barr Men go crazy in congregations they only get better one by one. -- Sting, All This Time (The Soul Cages, 1991) ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] OBEX server
Is there documentation somewhere on using OBEX servers on the Nokia 770? I have installed sobexsrv and am having difficulties connecting to the device from my laptop. There doesn't seem to be any documentation on the Maemo wiki for this usage mode. -- Andrew Barr Men go crazy in congregations they only get better one by one. -- Sting, All This Time (The Soul Cages, 1991) ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Unresolved issues (Week 43)
On Monday 30 October 2006 14:19, Michael Wiktowy wrote: As I was one of the interested parties in that conversation, thanks for the reply, Stefan . I hope this means that it can be fixed with a firmware update rather than a hardware update. If this is the case, I also hope that it will be increased in future N770 OS releases. Yes, I would be interested if this is a result of actual hardware limitations or some hard-coded (or otherwise) limit in one of the binary blobs for the DSP. /Mike ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- Andrew Barr Now playing: The Police - King Of Pain ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] weather and white screen of death
I have the weather applet installed on my device and I am now getting the white screen of death on bootup. I cannot remove it and apparently USB is also broken as a result of this so I cannot ssh in and remove the package. Must I reflash or is there some way to get the applet off of there without resorting to this? -- Andrew Barr Galloway, Ohio US NP: The Police - Tea in the Sahara (Synchronicity, 1983) ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Re: quries
On Sun, 2006-09-24 at 16:21 -0700, Greg Morgan wrote: A camera? I haven't tried that yet. The important note is that you may have to perform some steps by hand because a gui configuration application does not exist. Webcams require USB streaming (isochronous transfers I believe are what they are called) and this may not be supported by the Nokia's hardware, or even the USB OTG spec. You cannot connect webcams e.g. to VMware or QEMU. Maybe someone more knowledgeable can speak to this, but I do know that webcams are a bit different than pen drives and keyboards on the USB bus. HTH, Andrew ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] CPU Info
On Mon, 2006-09-11 at 16:51 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anybody explain what the java feature in the Features mean? My uneducated guess is that it means Jazelle, which are Java extensions for ARM. From what I've seen on various mailing lists, the exact details of Jazelle are a seekrit (ooh!) for which you must sign an NDA with ARM Ltd. Sadly that precludes most open source uses of it. Andrew ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Channel locking in Kismet
I notice that the WLAN driver, or the 'Nokia700' (sic) source in Kismet, seems to ignore channel locking. If I try to lock on to a particular network's channel, I still get packets coming in from two different networks on two different channels. Is this setting being ignored or am I missing something here? Kudos to the Kismet guys for getting it working on the 770, though. -- Andrew Barr | http://www.oakcourt.dyndns.org/~andrew/ Buzzword detected (core dumped) -- seen on linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] RE: Nokia 770 sources...
to kill the N770 in the very unforgiving consumer market for tech goods and services. Well, Nokia needs to be careful on souring early adopters (i.e. the people on this list) on it's plans for the Maemo platform and the 770, otherwise another situation like the Zaurus is likely to come up--the community there largely has what it wants in OpenZaurus and OpenEmbedded, and Sharp isn't making much money outside Japan with the what is now mostly an eBay market for Zaurus machines. -- Andrew Barr | http://www.oakcourt.dyndns.org/~andrew/ Buzzword detected (core dumped) -- seen on linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] RE: Nokia 770 sources...
On Wed, 2006-08-30 at 19:47 +0300, Kalle Vahlman wrote: Forgive me if I'm ignorant, but do you mean this one: https://garage.maemo.org/projects/cx3110x/ License: GNU General Public License (GPL) doesn't sound too binary, even though GPL tends to be a bit black-and-white in it's license compatibility regulation... ;) AFAICT the license is at least partially incorrect. Look in the Subversion repo and you'll see that it's one of those source-wrapper-around-a-binary-blob style drivers. -- Andrew Barr | http://www.oakcourt.dyndns.org/~andrew/ Buzzword detected (core dumped) -- seen on linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] RE: Nokia 770 sources...
On Wed, 2006-08-30 at 15:56 -0400, Michael Wiktowy wrote: Unfortunately, I don't think the waters are all that clear in this situation. No, unfortunately they're not. IANAL but it is my understanding that most countries have RFI laws that do not allow RF chip manufacturers to allow their users to modify their chips to switch to licensed bands or use an amount of power that brings it into a licenseable realm. It is not just the case of the law saying that a user can't operate in certain realms ... the user can't even be allowed to *possibly* operate in certain realms. So if an embedded chip is flexible enough, the manufacturers nerf it with a binary blob. The legal reasoning has been debated extensively on LKML and elsewhere multiple times, but I think it's worth pointing out that not everyone buys the regulation argument. That the regulations require withholding source code is, as I understand it, the prevailing interpretation among corporate attorneys rather than language in any particular regulation. Do a search at lkml.org for the recent ipw3945 discussions for details. In all reality the world's communications regulation agencies need to address the issue of open source code and software radios with updated regulations, and in the very least WLAN vendors will no longer have an excuse to hide behind, should that be what they are doing--I suspect at least some of them are. -- Andrew Barr | http://www.oakcourt.dyndns.org/~andrew/ Buzzword detected (core dumped) -- seen on linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Re: Scratchbox is not an emulator
On Wed, 2006-08-30 at 21:11 +0100, Ross Burton wrote: I seriously doubt that a Free Flash will match the official Flash for some time, but that is another story. The blog for the Linux port of Flash is very interesting: http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/. One of the recent posts talks about the Flash rendering model and how it's impossible (well, near impossible) to use Cairo to implement the Flash rendering model: it has to be implemented from scratch, including all of the weird bugs from old versions that are relied upon in large amounts of content. Are you talking about Gnash?[1] It's in OpenGL (they were/are experimenting with Cairo) and based off of the public-domain GameSWF project which already does all of SWF v7 and most of ActionScript. It is also actively developed with lots of commits occurring every day. Surely you can't be talking about Gnash... :) That penguin.swf blog is only mildly interesting, though. Cairo (do they mean XRender too or just Cairo?) might not work but if you've ever used the Linux Flash player on anything but cutting-edge hardware you know they need to use some kind of graphics acceleration. It's amazing it works as good as it does. Combining the quality of their Linux player that we have now and some of the posts I've read there I'm not too hopeful for an improved Linux Flash experience until Gnash starts working better. Not that I want to see 99% of the Flash content out there anyway... [1] http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/ The same argument is that Wine will give Windows a run for it's money. The devil is in the details. Not really, because Wine implements the Win32 userland (and quite a lot of it too, check out their progress pages) and nothing (well, almost nothing) from the NT kernel space. Their goal is to run Windows apps on Linux, and at that they do an amazingly good job given the differences between Windows and X11, and if you consider that Win32 was never designed to be cross-platform. They don't care about Windows drivers and such so they aren't really trying to give Windows a run for it's money. But this is off topic... I can say for sure that the addressbook application in IT2006 is closed source, Why? It doesn't make sense. although the backend is open source (it's Evolution Data Server, LGPL). For the rest of the user-level applications its a mixed bag as far as I know: some are open source as they are derived from existing open source software, and some are closed. It is not as if the community and/or a competing hardware manufacturer couldn't replace these apps relatively easily. That's why I don't understand the reasoning behind withholding their source code. This competing hardware manufacturer nonsense needs to go, BTW. Nokia has not even established that there is a viable market for the 770 as it stands now--these Chinese manufacturers everyone keeps talking about are going to be more interested in producing (yet another) Windows CE clone-device for which there is at least an established market. -- Andrew Barr | http://www.oakcourt.dyndns.org/~andrew/ Buzzword detected (core dumped) -- seen on linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Kismet now usable
I don't know how many of you frequent the Internet Tablet Talk forums (I don't--I was looking for Maemo Mapper info) but someone posted there[1] that the Kismet web site says that they now have code to validate frames reported by the WLAN driver--so theoretically goodbye to the ghost network issue. [1] http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2938page=1pp=10 -- Andrew Barr | http://www.oakcourt.dyndns.org/~andrew/ Buzzword detected (core dumped) -- seen on linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] RE: Nokia 770 sources...
On 8/29/06, Devesh Kothari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now what we are concentrating on, beside improving the above is to enable participation and contribution in stages to different parts of maemo, starting with HAF/Sardine which I hope would extend. The starting up and adoption barrier for sardine are being recognized, and we are now trying to make it easy to adopt and use sardine, without sacrificing the genral device usability. This would enable the patches or feature implementations by community to be made and tested on the latest svn codebase, so the component owners can integrate/accept/reject them. There has been excellent work done for enabling dual boot by Frantisek Dufka http://maemo.org/maemowiki/BootMenu Sardine certainly looks like a step in the right direction in terms of integrating the community into the development process, kind of like Red Hat does with its Fedora Project. Nokia, like Red Hat, has a shipping product that it needs some degree of control over, but also an active community that has its own ideas and wishes. Hopefully Sardine will help make the Maemo project better and keep both Nokia and the Maemo community happy. Ideally, in the future there could be complete, unofficial product images (as Nokia calls them) that are created by the community, for example maybe one that incorporates only free software (in the GNU or OSI sense). Maybe something similar to Red Hat's derivative policy towards Fedora. That would be a particularly popular one among some, I would venture. Similar to OpenZaurus for the Sharp PDAs, but within the auspices of the Maemo community. Unaddressed so far, however, is the Bluetooth headset issue--more generally, hardware details that are necessary to create such a distribution. Headset support would be an extremely useful feature, one that I would like myself, but unfortunately no one outside Nokia (or TI or whoever made the Bluetooth chip) has the necessary details. This is an area where the current top-down structure of the Maemo project fails. You (the Nokia engineers) seem genuinely interested in listening to the community, I would be willing to bet that either adding the necessary support to the the Maemo kernel or providing documentation to interested parties would silence a longstanding gripe of some of us. (Just a personal gripe of mine: Proper monitor mode support in the WLAN driver so Kismet will run correctly. The Nokia 770 is by far the most perfect device to run Kismet on that I have ever seen--it's a shame it doesn't work right. :) ) ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: [maemo-developers] RE: Nokia 770 sources...
On Mon, 2006-08-28 at 18:47 -0300, Alessandro Ikeuchi wrote: ... While I certainly don't agree with the angry tone used, I have to say Maemo and the Nokia 770 have been disappointing in terms of openness. It seems to me that Nokia has opened just enough to get apps ported and/or written for the device, which in turn sells more devices, or at least that appears to be the plan. Nothing has come of recurring requests for information about the Bluetooth hardware (e.g. for headset support), Ogg Vorbis support, or Gstreamer/DSP multimedia internals in general. Some things that are missing from the Subversion repo don't even make sense, e.g. there is no hardware secrets or patents associated with them (at least as far as I know) The media player apps come to mind here. Maemo really isn't open in the sense that we're used to: like a traditional Linux distribution. It seems to be more of an SDK plus things that were required to be open, e.g. due to licensing terms. This is unfortunate, because it creates a burden on the Nokia employees working on this project. They are the only ones who can add many requested features or fix bugs, so in many cases people complain to the mail list because they cannot take care of things themselves. You don't see patch mails on the maemo-* lists. That's to say nothing of ideas people have had but been unable to implement--trivial stuff that would improve the Maemo environment but may not have been discussed on the ML. To me, the open-source economy (or whatever) that makes some projects so great doesn't work here because the community is relegated in large part to the role of application developer. The best you can do to improve some parts of Maemo is suggest it and hope someone at Nokia takes it up. These are just my impressions from informal observation and occasional participation in this endeavor. If you think I'm way off base or crazy or something, please feel free to tell me or ignore me. -- Andrew Barr | http://www.oakcourt.dyndns.org/~andrew/ Buzzword detected (core dumped) -- seen on linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: [maemo-developers] Future features for Maemo Desktop (TaskNavigator, Home, Status bar)?
On Mon, 2006-08-21 at 15:57 -0500, Ted Gould wrote: - Bonjour. I've heard (but never tried) that if a bunch of Macs are sitting around, they can find each other and IM using Bonjour. The example relayed to me was at a conference the reporter wasn't close enough to the speaker to get a good picture. So, he got on IM and found someone closer to send him a picture. It would be very cool to do similar stuff, and connect to the same Macs, through the 770. I was going to try compiling avahi-daemon for this purpose--it makes addressing a device in an ad-hoc network with link-local addresses MUCH easier, among other things. The IM bits are supported by Gaim 2.0 beta releases. - LEAP support. I'm not sure if Cisco allows anyone to know about LEAP, especially in an open platform. But, it'd be nice to be able to log on to Cisco wireless. This has been long supported by wpa_supplicant (no thanks to Cisco though). Unfortunately, the Nokia IAP software is closed-source and I don't know if it's related to wpa_supplicant at all. You might have some luck with wpa_supplicant but unless the proprietary WLAN driver supports the latest WE extensions or the prism54 wpa_supplicant driver you're likely out of luck. -- Andrew Barr | http://www.oakcourt.dyndns.org/~andrew/ All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual (1925) ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] VoIP through SIP
On Mon, 2006-08-21 at 00:58 +0200, Jaime Ruiz Frontera wrote: Hi Jonek, I just tried it. I used it with voipbuster (www.voipbuster.com). I could register with my username and password but when I try to make a call it finishes with a segmentation fault. If you need details just tell me. Hi, Just a tip: I've found that obtaining backtraces via gdb can be most enlightening when a program segfaults or doesn't behave properly, even if you don't know any programming. Often the names of libraries and functions being called at the time of the crash will give you leads in your investigation. I don't know how hard this would be to set up on the Nokia, though. :( Best luck Jaime Greets, Jonek. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- Andrew Barr | http://www.oakcourt.dyndns.org/~andrew/ All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual (1925) ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-users] Re: [maemo-developers] Future features for Maemo Desktop (Task Navigator, Home, Status bar)?
On Fri, 2006-08-18 at 20:15 +0300, Igor Stoppa wrote: Done already, check the power management and drivers code. Next? If anything, power management on the 770 is too aggressive. You'll know what I mean if you've ever tried to SSH into it over a WiFi link. So maybe more control over the various PM features would be nice. -- Andrew Barr | http://www.oakcourt.dyndns.org/~andrew/ All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual (1925) ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Problem wt. dpkg in scratchbox
On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 00:55 +0200, Nils Faerber wrote: Since there is not way to become root and this also has not been necessary in the past I am wondering what I am doing wrong here... fakeroot works for me HTH, Andrew ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] VMware image for development environment
On Wednesday 19 July 2006 18:49, Jason Mills wrote: Unless there are strenuous objections, I'd be happy to build out the Browser Appliance VM with relevant Nokia 770 / Scratchbox tools as a starting point. -JMills (builder of BAVM 1.0.0) I've got one up and (almost) running that is based on Debian sarge and the Maemo 2.0 SDK. Scratchbox is installing now, as I type th is. It is, however, based on QEMU and not VMware. It shouldn't be too hard to convert it if you want VMware, though. I cannot distribute it myself, I do not have enough bandwidth (512Kbps up cable modem). It is about 700-800 MB uncompressed, and will probably be quite a bit smaller once run through a *zip program and excess cruft (downloaded security update packages, etc.) removed from the virtual disk. Anyone who is interested can have it, but it needs hosted somewhere other than here for more than 1 or 2 downloads. So if you are interested, please let me know, especially if you can host the disk image. -- Andrew Barr | http://www.oakcourt.dyndns.org/~andrew/ | GPG: 0xAD9AE76A Those who would trade liberty for security deserve neither. -- B. Franklin ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] VMware image for development environment
On Wednesday 19 July 2006 18:56, Andrew Barr wrote: I've got one up and (almost) running that is based on Debian sarge and the Maemo 2.0 SDK. It turned out much larger than originally expected (scratchbox and rootstraps are quite large), the uncompressed image is ~3 GB and GZIP compressed it slims down to 1.12GB. For now, I put it up via BitTorrent here: http://linuxtracker.org/torrents-details.php?id=2424 Expect download rates to be about 50 KB/sec until more people join in. Feedback would be greatly appreciated. -- Andrew Barr | http://www.oakcourt.dyndns.org/~andrew/ | GPG: 0xAD9AE76A Those who would trade liberty for security deserve neither. -- B. Franklin ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] VMware image for development environment
On Wednesday 19 July 2006 21:32, Ralph Giles wrote: That's going to take a while considering it blocks new users for 24 hours. What a terrible site. I'm not sure I understand. AFAIK you don't have to register to download. If you've got a better suggestion for a tracker, I'm all ears. -- Andrew Barr | http://www.oakcourt.dyndns.org/~andrew/ | GPG: 0xAD9AE76A Those who would trade liberty for security deserve neither. -- B. Franklin ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Need some help with debian file for IT2006 device
On Tuesday 18 July 2006 14:34, Steven Hill wrote: However, when I try to install this library using that file and the application manager, I get the message that it is an incompatible package. You should try using dpkg on the command line if it is indeed an ITOS2006 compatible package (they end in _armel.deb and not _arm.deb IIRC): dpkg -i file.deb You have to do this as root. The App Installer has a number of checks on it to keep end-users from ruining their filesystem and just to keep it generally user-friendly. If it's not ITOS2006 compatible, beware. The new OS switched to the ARM EABI for binaries, so even if the package will install, it likely will not work and will cause problems for programs that link to it's library. -- Andrew Barr | http://www.oakcourt.dyndns.org/~andrew/ | GPG: 0xAD9AE76A Those who would trade liberty for security deserve neither. -- B. Franklin ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] strange thin crack in hardware... see fotos
On Friday 14 July 2006 19:33, Collin R. Mulliner wrote: check out: http://www.mulliner.org/nokia770/pool/fotos/broken_hw/ ..it shows my device with a thin crack on the connector panel at the lower part of the device. The device still works 100% as far as I can tell. I can't recall dropping my device other then once from about 15cm to the carpet (this was some weeks ago). Today I discovered the strange crack which seems to go right through the connector panel. Check out the 4 fotos I made. I have a similar crack in my device. It's been there for a few months now and it's not gotten worse. I don't recall if I dropped it or not. I'll post some photos as well if anyone cares to see it. -- Andrew Barr | http://www.oakcourt.dyndns.org/~andrew/ | GPG: 0xAD9AE76A Those who would trade liberty for security deserve neither. -- B. Franklin ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Voice Notation
On Wednesday 12 July 2006 20:23, fireun ukobach wrote: My problem, is that I would like to record voice clips and email/IM them asyncronously. No live chat, just a voice msg. There is a Maemo Recorder app on the garage but at last check it had yet to see a release. -- Andrew Barr | http://www.oakcourt.dyndns.org/~andrew/ | GPG: 0xAD9AE76A Those who would trade liberty for security deserve neither. -- B. Franklin ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Re: 802.11g Ad-Hoc Link?
On Tuesday 11 July 2006 02:54, Kalle Valo wrote: That sounds like a bug. If there's an existing Ad-Hoc network, 770 should find it and connect to it like with normal infrastructure networks. The 'W' icon in the connect dialog just should be a bit more lighter blue in Ad-Hoc networks. I wouldn't say there's a bug in the 770 software just yet. There could be a bug in NetworkManager, the ipw2200 driver, or something on the other end. I'm going to do more testing and find out, especially now that I've ditched NetworkManager on my laptop. -- Andrew Barr | http://www.oakcourt.dyndns.org/~andrew/ GPG: B6E3 19B7 C294 BF8B B26B 317C 86E3 3E67 AD9A E76A Those who would trade liberty for security deserve neither. -- attributed to Benjamin Franklin ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Re: 802.11g Ad-Hoc Link?
On Friday 07 July 2006 15:04, Michael P. Lococo wrote: This doesn't answer your question in the least, but it may be that the reason for this limitation in the 770 is that the hardware can't effectively move data around any faster than 11Mbps. That may be true but there also the issue that the Wi-Fi spec says that Ad-Hoc doesn't have to exceed 11Mbps. I know I've never come close to reaching that speed in my network transfers (although in fairness most of my transfers are via SSH and either read or write from/to the MMC so I'm affected by bottlenecks that may not apply to you). Well, yes, that is what I was thinking of. Transferring MP3 files to the MMC card via USB 1.1 isn't particularly fun. :-/ -- Andrew Barr | http://www.oakcourt.dyndns.org/~andrew/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] 802.11g Ad-Hoc Link?
It occurred to me that the fastest way to transfer data to the 770 is over an ad-hoc 54Mbps link. However, it looks to me like the WLAN driver is going into 802.11b (11 Mbps) mode when I set up an ad-hoc network. How can I switch 54Mbps mode back on? iwconfig wlan0 rate 54 gives an invalid argument error, and there are no private ioctls that seem to do what I want. The laptop at the other end of the link is using an Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG card with the latest release of the ipw2200 Linux driver. Any help would be appreciated. -- Andrew Barr | http://www.oakcourt.dyndns.org/~andrew/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Re: 802.11g Ad-Hoc Link?
I don't know if y'all consider self-replies kosher, but... On Thursday 06 July 2006 15:51, Andrew Barr wrote: It occurred to me that the fastest way to transfer data to the 770 is over an ad-hoc 54Mbps link. However, it looks to me like the WLAN driver is going into 802.11b (11 Mbps) mode when I set up an ad-hoc network. I did a quick Google search and a little known fact is that the 802.11 spec requires only an 11Mbps max rate for both B-mode and G-mode. Products can exceed this of course, but many don't. This is, AFAIK, purely a driver issue for modern wireless hardware. I had an old Belkin wireless-G CardBus card laying around, and it uses the rt2500 driver, which appears to allow this behavior via a special setting (they call it violating the spec which doesn't seem right given what I've read). So is there any way I can go 54Mbps with the cx3110x driver on the 770 in ad-hoc mode? Is this possible with the islsm driver? (which I would like to get working for multiple reasons now) -- Andrew Barr | http://www.oakcourt.dyndns.org/~andrew/ I think religion is bad and drugs are good. Why don't you find me a campaign manager? -- Bill Maher, when asked if he would run for office ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
