Re: GSoC project - aGLESory
Hi, On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:12 PM, Javier S. Pedro ma...@javispedro.comwrote: 2010/3/19 Thomas Perl th.p...@gmail.com I *think* the idea behind aGLESory is to make it easier to start creating projects utilizing OpenGL ES for Maemo/MeeGo. Right now, if one was to use Xlib to create a Hello World-ish GL ES app, it would look like this: http://wiki.maemo.org/SimpleGL_example There's too much boilerplate code (setting up the X window, etc..) which makes it hard (or a copy'n'paste job) to start a new project utilitzing OpenGL ES. Shameless promotion: SDL-gles, which removes quite a lot of the boilerplate and doesn't require patches to the upstream SDL nor the maemo one. It's already in -devel and in use by at least one game. 2010/3/19 Valerio Valerio wrote: These idea came from TMO, but I've already contacted the author. My understanding of the idea is a bit different, I think is basically a wrapper from OpenGL to OpenGL ES, in order to easily port OpenGL games/apps to Maemo. I agree, the wording makes it sound that way. Flandry confirmed, I was right about his idea, but we are open to other proposals that can improve the portability of OpenGL apps to Maemo(OpenGL ES). Best regards, -- Valério Valério http://www.valeriovalerio.org -- Javier ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: GSoC project - aGLESory
Hello! 2010/3/19 Carolina Simões Gomes carolina.sgo...@gmail.com: If possible, I'd like to know more about the aGLESory project, in order to begin forming my ideas about the project proposal. (I'm not the one who proposed the project, so I might be wrong about the motivations and ideas behind aGLESory.) I *think* the idea behind aGLESory is to make it easier to start creating projects utilizing OpenGL ES for Maemo/MeeGo. Right now, if one was to use Xlib to create a Hello World-ish GL ES app, it would look like this: http://wiki.maemo.org/SimpleGL_example There's too much boilerplate code (setting up the X window, etc..) which makes it hard (or a copy'n'paste job) to start a new project utilitzing OpenGL ES. I guess most of this is covered by using Qt and its QGLWidget, which can be subclassed to implement the rendering/setup: http://doc.trolltech.com/4.6/qglwidget.html - This also provides texture loading using QImage. Still, maybe a more lightweight solution with Xlib and DevIL, packed into a nice, little C++ framework is what aGLESory is about (maybe with some additional helper classes to make it easier to get started). It would be nice if Flandry (the reporter on the GSoC ideas page) could elaborate a bit on what the idea is exactly. I've added myself as a possible mentor for this project, as it does interest me personally :) HTH. Thomas ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: GSoC project - aGLESory
From: maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org [maemo-developers-boun...@maemo.org] On Behalf Of ext Thomas Perl [th.p...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 12:02 PM To: Carolina Simões Gomes Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org Subject: Re: GSoC project - aGLESory Hello! 2010/3/19 Carolina Simões Gomes carolina.sgo...@gmail.com: If possible, I'd like to know more about the aGLESory project, in order to begin forming my ideas about the project proposal. (I'm not the one who proposed the project, so I might be wrong about the motivations and ideas behind aGLESory.) I *think* the idea behind aGLESory is to make it easier to start creating projects utilizing OpenGL ES for Maemo/MeeGo. Right now, if one was to use Xlib to create a Hello World-ish GL ES app, it would look like this: http://wiki.maemo.org/SimpleGL_example There's too much boilerplate code (setting up the X window, etc..) which makes it hard (or a copy'n'paste job) to start a new project utilitzing OpenGL ES. I guess most of this is covered by using Qt and its QGLWidget, which can be subclassed to implement the rendering/setup: http://doc.trolltech.com/4.6/qglwidget.html - This also provides texture loading using QImage. Still, maybe a more lightweight solution with Xlib and DevIL, packed into a nice, little C++ framework is what aGLESory is about (maybe with some additional helper classes to make it easier to get started). There is also Qt3d that is much one you are looking for. It is utility class to making easier to create OpenGl apps with using OpenGL API when graphicswiew and graphics iten is more heavy and hign level. It is least worth of checking up http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2009/11/10/qt3d-features-in-qt-46/ It would be nice if Flandry (the reporter on the GSoC ideas page) could elaborate a bit on what the idea is exactly. I've added myself as a possible mentor for this project, as it does interest me personally :) Kate HTH. Thomas ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: GSoC project - aGLESory
Hi, 2010/3/19 Thomas Perl th.p...@gmail.com Hello! 2010/3/19 Carolina Simões Gomes carolina.sgo...@gmail.com: If possible, I'd like to know more about the aGLESory project, in order to begin forming my ideas about the project proposal. (I'm not the one who proposed the project, so I might be wrong about the motivations and ideas behind aGLESory.) I *think* the idea behind aGLESory is to make it easier to start creating projects utilizing OpenGL ES for Maemo/MeeGo. Right now, if one was to use Xlib to create a Hello World-ish GL ES app, it would look like this: http://wiki.maemo.org/SimpleGL_example There's too much boilerplate code (setting up the X window, etc..) which makes it hard (or a copy'n'paste job) to start a new project utilitzing OpenGL ES. I guess most of this is covered by using Qt and its QGLWidget, which can be subclassed to implement the rendering/setup: http://doc.trolltech.com/4.6/qglwidget.html - This also provides texture loading using QImage. Still, maybe a more lightweight solution with Xlib and DevIL, packed into a nice, little C++ framework is what aGLESory is about (maybe with some additional helper classes to make it easier to get started). It would be nice if Flandry (the reporter on the GSoC ideas page) could elaborate a bit on what the idea is exactly. I've added myself as a possible mentor for this project, as it does interest me personally :) These idea came from TMO, but I've already contacted the author. My understanding of the idea is a bit different, I think is basically a wrapper from OpenGL to OpenGL ES, in order to easily port OpenGL games/apps to Maemo. Best regards, -- Valério Valério http://www.valeriovalerio.org HTH. Thomas ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: GSoC project - aGLESory
I'm a bit confused here...is Qt3D the same or an extension to the QtOpenGL module? Also, if the aGLESory project is supposed to be a wrapper of OpenGL to OpenGLES, would this include Qt code or just straightforward GL code? I ask this because according to the blog post Kate pointed to, Qt3D already intends to abstract away GL and GLES differences. Thank you, On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Valerio Valerio vdv...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, 2010/3/19 Thomas Perl th.p...@gmail.com Hello! 2010/3/19 Carolina Simões Gomes carolina.sgo...@gmail.com: If possible, I'd like to know more about the aGLESory project, in order to begin forming my ideas about the project proposal. (I'm not the one who proposed the project, so I might be wrong about the motivations and ideas behind aGLESory.) I *think* the idea behind aGLESory is to make it easier to start creating projects utilizing OpenGL ES for Maemo/MeeGo. Right now, if one was to use Xlib to create a Hello World-ish GL ES app, it would look like this: http://wiki.maemo.org/SimpleGL_example There's too much boilerplate code (setting up the X window, etc..) which makes it hard (or a copy'n'paste job) to start a new project utilitzing OpenGL ES. I guess most of this is covered by using Qt and its QGLWidget, which can be subclassed to implement the rendering/setup: http://doc.trolltech.com/4.6/qglwidget.html - This also provides texture loading using QImage. Still, maybe a more lightweight solution with Xlib and DevIL, packed into a nice, little C++ framework is what aGLESory is about (maybe with some additional helper classes to make it easier to get started). It would be nice if Flandry (the reporter on the GSoC ideas page) could elaborate a bit on what the idea is exactly. I've added myself as a possible mentor for this project, as it does interest me personally :) These idea came from TMO, but I've already contacted the author. My understanding of the idea is a bit different, I think is basically a wrapper from OpenGL to OpenGL ES, in order to easily port OpenGL games/apps to Maemo. Best regards, -- Valério Valério http://www.valeriovalerio.org HTH. Thomas -- * [Carolina Simões Gomes] Computer Engineer - University of Campinas, Brazil M.Sc. in C.S. Student - University of Alberta, Canada http://carolgomes.wordpress.com * ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: GSoC project - aGLESory
2010/3/19 Thomas Perl th.p...@gmail.com I *think* the idea behind aGLESory is to make it easier to start creating projects utilizing OpenGL ES for Maemo/MeeGo. Right now, if one was to use Xlib to create a Hello World-ish GL ES app, it would look like this: http://wiki.maemo.org/SimpleGL_example There's too much boilerplate code (setting up the X window, etc..) which makes it hard (or a copy'n'paste job) to start a new project utilitzing OpenGL ES. Shameless promotion: SDL-gles, which removes quite a lot of the boilerplate and doesn't require patches to the upstream SDL nor the maemo one. It's already in -devel and in use by at least one game. 2010/3/19 Valerio Valerio wrote: These idea came from TMO, but I've already contacted the author. My understanding of the idea is a bit different, I think is basically a wrapper from OpenGL to OpenGL ES, in order to easily port OpenGL games/apps to Maemo. I agree, the wording makes it sound that way. -- Javier ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: GSoC project - aGLESory
Hello, First of all, congratulations to the Maemo Community for being on the GSoC again this year :-D If possible, I'd like to know more about the aGLESory project, in order to begin forming my ideas about the project proposal. Thank you! 2010/3/15 Valerio Valerio vdv...@gmail.com Hi Carolina, first thanks for your interest in the Maemo Community. 2010/3/15 Carolina Simões Gomes carolina.sgo...@gmail.com Hello everybody, My name is Carolina, I'm new to this list and a new-grad Computer Engineer from Brazil. I've recently been accepted in the MSc in Computer Science program at University of Alberta, in Canada. I work remotely for a Finnish open-source company named Nomovok since November 2009, being a regular Qt contributor and part of the qt-performance team since then. I'm interested in the aGLESory project, which I believe would be a good fit for me, given my background in games development (I've developed Nintendo DS games during an internship) and graphics programming. Is the project confirmed to be on GSoC? As any other organization applying for GSoC, the Maemo Community was not chosen yet to take part of the program, the results will be revealed next Thursday, keep an eye in this mailing list. Best regards, -- Valério Valério http://www.valeriovalerio.org Thank you and best regards, -- * [Carolina Simões Gomes] Computer Engineer - University of Campinas, Brazil M.Sc. in C.S. Student - University of Alberta, Canada http://carolgomes.wordpress.com * ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- * [Carolina Simões Gomes] Computer Engineer - University of Campinas, Brazil M.Sc. in C.S. Student - University of Alberta, Canada http://carolgomes.wordpress.com * ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: GSoC project - aGLESory
Hi Carolina, first thanks for your interest in the Maemo Community. 2010/3/15 Carolina Simões Gomes carolina.sgo...@gmail.com Hello everybody, My name is Carolina, I'm new to this list and a new-grad Computer Engineer from Brazil. I've recently been accepted in the MSc in Computer Science program at University of Alberta, in Canada. I work remotely for a Finnish open-source company named Nomovok since November 2009, being a regular Qt contributor and part of the qt-performance team since then. I'm interested in the aGLESory project, which I believe would be a good fit for me, given my background in games development (I've developed Nintendo DS games during an internship) and graphics programming. Is the project confirmed to be on GSoC? As any other organization applying for GSoC, the Maemo Community was not chosen yet to take part of the program, the results will be revealed next Thursday, keep an eye in this mailing list. Best regards, -- Valério Valério http://www.valeriovalerio.org Thank you and best regards, -- * [Carolina Simões Gomes] Computer Engineer - University of Campinas, Brazil M.Sc. in C.S. Student - University of Alberta, Canada http://carolgomes.wordpress.com * ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
