Re: Never Try to Outsmart the OS

2007-05-15 Thread Mikhail Sobolev
On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 07:36:39AM +0300, Jari Tenhunen wrote:
 Perhaps you got it from 
 http://mike.saunby.googlepages.com/x11vncfornokia7702
 ? IIRC the desktop file pointed to a shell script that acted like on/off
 button, alternatively starting and stopping the service. Is it a problem if
 it's not launched via D-Bus?
With the current version of simple-launcher it is :)  But it's a problem
simple-launcher.

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Re: Never Try to Outsmart the OS

2007-05-14 Thread Acadia Secure Networks

Mikhail,

the version that I am running is 0.9.1 and I am pretty sure that I used 
the application manager to install it.  If you would like a screenshot 
or something like that I can send it to you off list. Just let me know 
what you need.


In the scale of annoyances, this is not, for me a biggie since there is 
a simple workaround. Interestingly, and contrary to my understanding of  
X11vnc, X11vnc seems to stop running after a period of inactivity (i.e. 
no connection) and then it must be restarted. I would have thought that, 
since it runs as a daemon/service, that it would remain 
running/listening once it is started.


In fact, it would be nice if the load-applet could be enhanced to 
include stop and restart as options for those processes that are 
installed as daemons and, furthermore, to somehow distinguish them in 
the process list from those processes that are not daemons/services.


Best Regards,



John Holmblad



Acadia Secure Networks




Mikhail Sobolev wrote:

Hi John

On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 08:19:42PM -0400, Acadia Secure Networks wrote:
  
I have been unable to get the x11vnc and free42 apps to show up in the 
simple launcher menu. Unfortunately when I attempt to select either of 
these two apps the checkbox does not check. These are the only 2 apps on 
the simple launcher apps list, in fact, that do not check when the 
checkbox is selected.


Could you please advise where you took the applications from?  I'm
_slowly_ working on SimplLauncher now, but I'd like to make a release
soon and this kind of issues I'd like to address as much as possible.

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Re: Never Try to Outsmart the OS

2007-05-14 Thread Mikhail Sobolev
Hi John

On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 08:59:52AM -0400, Acadia Secure Networks wrote:
 the version that I am running is 0.9.1 and I am pretty sure that I used 
 the application manager to install it.  If you would like a screenshot 
 or something like that I can send it to you off list. Just let me know 
 what you need.
Sorry for not being specific :)  What version of x11vnc and free42 you
were trying and where did you take them from?

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 Mikhail Sobolev wrote:
 Hi John
 
 On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 08:19:42PM -0400, Acadia Secure Networks wrote:
   
 I have been unable to get the x11vnc and free42 apps to show up in the 
 simple launcher menu. Unfortunately when I attempt to select either of 
 these two apps the checkbox does not check. These are the only 2 apps on 
 the simple launcher apps list, in fact, that do not check when the 
 checkbox is selected.
 
 Could you please advise where you took the applications from?  I'm
 _slowly_ working on SimplLauncher now, but I'd like to make a release
 soon and this kind of issues I'd like to address as much as possible.
 
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Re: Never Try to Outsmart the OS

2007-05-14 Thread Mike Cowlishaw
 Mikhail,
 
 the version that I am running is 0.9.1 and I am pretty sure that I used
 the application manager to install it.  If you would like a screenshot
 or something like that I can send it to you off list. Just let me know
 what you need.
 
 In the scale of annoyances, this is not, for me a biggie since there is
 a simple workaround. Interestingly, and contrary to my understanding of
 X11vnc, X11vnc seems to stop running after a period of inactivity (i.e.
 no connection) and then it must be restarted.

I used to see that, and then or no apparent reason it stopped dropping the
connection and seems completely reliable now.

 I would have thought that,
 since it runs as a daemon/service, that it would remain
 running/listening once it is started.
 
 In fact, it would be nice if the load-applet could be enhanced to
 include stop and restart as options for those processes that are
 installed as daemons and, furthermore, to somehow distinguish them in
 the process list from those processes that are not daemons/services.

Even better would be a way to allow connections to services when the N800 is
offline (as on a 'plane) or not connected to Wi-Fi.  This is a real
show-stopper .. nobody seems to know a workaround. :-(

mfc


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Re: Never Try to Outsmart the OS

2007-05-14 Thread Acadia Secure Networks

Misha,

the version numbers shown in the application manager installed apps menu 
are as follows:

*App  Version #*

   X11VNC   0.8-3

   Free42 1.4.27-hildon3


Unfortunately the metadata associated with the app that is shown in the 
application manager does not indicate from where the app was taken. I am 
pretty sure that I took the Free42 app from the maemo downloads www 
site. Regarding X11VNC, I am less certain of where I got that from.


Best Regards,

John Holmblad

 

Acadia Secure Networks

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Mikhail Sobolev wrote:
 Hi John

 On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 08:59:52AM -0400, Acadia Secure Networks wrote:
   
 the version that I am running is 0.9.1 and I am pretty sure that I used 
 the application manager to install it.  If you would like a screenshot 
 or something like that I can send it to you off list. Just let me know 
 what you need.
 
 Sorry for not being specific :)  What version of x11vnc and free42 you
 were trying and where did you take them from?

 --
 Misha

   
 Mikhail Sobolev wrote:
 
 Hi John

 On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 08:19:42PM -0400, Acadia Secure Networks wrote:
  
   
 I have been unable to get the x11vnc and free42 apps to show up in the 
 simple launcher menu. Unfortunately when I attempt to select either of 
 these two apps the checkbox does not check. These are the only 2 apps on 
 the simple launcher apps list, in fact, that do not check when the 
 checkbox is selected.

 
 Could you please advise where you took the applications from?  I'm
 _slowly_ working on SimplLauncher now, but I'd like to make a release
 soon and this kind of issues I'd like to address as much as possible.

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Re: Never Try to Outsmart the OS

2007-05-14 Thread Tatu Männistö
John,

Some Maemo DBUS launching stuff was missing from the free42-1.4.27-hildon3 
version, try newer one -1.4.29.hildon2. New version should be available in 
the usual places...

After 15 seconds of testing at least you can select and launch it from 
simple-launcher (haven't tried idea!) Once running and minimized, tapping on 
it in s-l won't bring it foreground, I dunno if it should...


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Re: Never Try to Outsmart the OS

2007-05-14 Thread Jari Tenhunen

On 5/14/07, Acadia Secure Networks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Misha,

the version numbers shown in the application manager installed apps menu
are as follows:

*App  Version #*

   X11VNC   0.8-3

   Free42 1.4.27-hildon3


Unfortunately the metadata associated with the app that is shown in the
application manager does not indicate from where the app was taken. I am
pretty sure that I took the Free42 app from the maemo downloads www
site. Regarding X11VNC, I am less certain of where I got that from.



Perhaps you got it from http://mike.saunby.googlepages.com/x11vncfornokia7702
? IIRC the desktop file pointed to a shell script that acted like on/off
button, alternatively starting and stopping the service. Is it a problem if
it's not launched via D-Bus?


Br,
Jari

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Re: Never Try to Outsmart the OS

2007-05-09 Thread Mikhail Sobolev
Hi John

On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 08:19:42PM -0400, Acadia Secure Networks wrote:
 I have been unable to get the x11vnc and free42 apps to show up in the 
 simple launcher menu. Unfortunately when I attempt to select either of 
 these two apps the checkbox does not check. These are the only 2 apps on 
 the simple launcher apps list, in fact, that do not check when the 
 checkbox is selected.
Could you please advise where you took the applications from?  I'm
_slowly_ working on SimplLauncher now, but I'd like to make a release
soon and this kind of issues I'd like to address as much as possible.

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