Re: [maemo-users] gcc compiler suite, linker, and make for ARM on ITOS2006
Hi, ext Paule Ecimovic wrote: Thanks for this link to the Maemo 2.1 SDK. This is full of useful programming examples, although I am looking for gcc to run from the Nokia 770 itself from within an osso-xterm in order to be able to compile, link, and run programs right from and on the device, just like on a desktop linux box. I would like to skip the external linux box though. I think that if you want e.g. to compile C++ code with GCC on the device, you might need to use swap. Some C++ files can make GCC to take a lot of RAM. You should also note that the device has Busybox, not the normal GNU coreutils/fileutils/textutils. If the source uses GNU Autotools for configuring itself, you can run to very wierd problems because Busybox is not 100% compatible with the GNU utilities. And if you want to build Debian source packages, the device of course doesn't have -dev packages or the Debian tools for that. However, all of this is easy to do in Scratchbox (Maemo SDK). - Eero ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Gizmo 2.0 works on the 770
But Gizmo for 770 and N800 don't seem to be the same: - http://www.gizmoproject.com/nokia800/ [Version 2.0.0.52] - http://www.gizmoproject.com/nokia770/ [Version 1.1.0.40] So, could N800 version be installed in 770?? As far as I know, apps for 770 should work in N800, but not reverse. Thanks and best regards, 2007/1/23, Damien Challet [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dear All, The title says it all, it works very well and a few new features make the upgrade appealing (SIP among them). I first read about it on the French Maemo forum Source :http://maemofr.org/viewtopic.php?id=321action=new Cheers Damien ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] A scary story with a happy ending
Yesterday I installed a couple of games into my 770. And one of the games didn't fit--I've filled up the partition. Scary things started happening--the user interface became very nonresponsive, I couldn't switch between tasks, I couldn't open the task menu, I couldn't tap on the globe icon. I could switch to the desktop, but it wouldn't even display my wallpaper--instead I got a white background and a dialog saying memory full, free some memory. I had File Manager open. I could finally switch to it somehow. I tried to delete something, and got an error (Unable to complete operation). Uh oh. Finally I noticed that the user interface was becoming responsive again. I could go online and ssh into my 770. I still could not delete any files: $ rm filename rm: filename: No space left on device dmesg was full of kernel messages about the JFFS2 garbage collector being unable to find any free space. Uh oh. I made backups and prepared for reflashing. I rebooted. Opened up xterm, tried to delete a file. I could do it! Then df showed me I had 11 megs freespace. The garbage collector must have worked better after a fresh boot. Moral: * don't fill up your flash, or you'll be sorry * I need more disk space, as usual * the user interface was unresponsive because the 770 was very busy writing to flash (or running the garbage collector), not because it was out of disk space I reflashed anyway, since it was way past time for me to upgrade to OS 2006.2. I've written up a page with instructions for myself to make the backup/restore less painful after a reflash: http://mg.pov.lt/770/reflash.html The most interesting bit is probably the single-click install file for OpenSSH. Although you do need to set the application manager into red-pill mode to use it. Marius Gedminas -- Q: Why do mountain climbers rope themselves together? A: To prevent the sensible ones from going home. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Gizmo 2.0 works on the 770
On Wednesday 24 January 2007 09:14, Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente wrote: But Gizmo for 770 and N800 don't seem to be the same: - http://www.gizmoproject.com/nokia800/ [Version 2.0.0.52] - http://www.gizmoproject.com/nokia770/ [Version 1.1.0.40] So, could N800 version be installed in 770?? That is what my message was meant to say. As far as I know, apps for 770 should work in N800, but not reverse. not alway, apparently. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] A scary story with a happy ending
Hi, ext Marius Gedminas wrote: Yesterday I installed a couple of games into my 770. And one of the games didn't fit--I've filled up the partition. Scary things started happening--the user interface became very nonresponsive, I couldn't switch between tasks, I couldn't open the task menu, I couldn't tap on the globe icon. I could switch to the desktop, but it wouldn't even display my wallpaper--instead I got a white background and a dialog saying memory full, free some memory. I had File Manager open. I could finally switch to it somehow. I tried to delete something, and got an error (Unable to complete operation). Uh oh. Finally I noticed that the user interface was becoming responsive again. I could go online and ssh into my 770. I still could not delete any files: $ rm filename rm: filename: No space left on device Normal user shouldn't be able to fill the device rootfs this full, only root should be able to do that. And Application installer (which runs dpkg as root) should handle the case of installed package not fitting on the device. It's possible that the packager has botched the package and it creates at installation files that won't be removed when the package install is canceled. This is the worst bug a package can have on a devices with limited disk space, on par with making Desktop to continuously crash. Had you any extra packages installed which might be running as root and e.g. logging things onto Flash? dmesg was full of kernel messages about the JFFS2 garbage collector being unable to find any free space. Uh oh. I made backups and prepared for reflashing. I rebooted. Opened up xterm, tried to delete a file. I could do it! Then df showed me I had 11 megs freespace. The garbage collector must have worked better after a fresh boot. Moral: * don't fill up your flash, or you'll be sorry * I need more disk space, as usual * the user interface was unresponsive because the 770 was very busy writing to flash (or running the garbage collector), not because it was out of disk space There's no free space until files been both removed *and* garbage collected by JFFS2. Some N770 users have also encountered the problem where the device enters reboot loop because the garbage collection on the device bootup triggers the device HW watchdog. If you encounter this again, I would recommend backing up any important information before reboot if you can, just in case. (besides reporting it here...) I reflashed anyway, since it was way past time for me to upgrade to OS 2006.2. I've written up a page with instructions for myself to make the backup/restore less painful after a reflash: http://mg.pov.lt/770/reflash.html The most interesting bit is probably the single-click install file for OpenSSH. Although you do need to set the application manager into red-pill mode to use it. - Eero ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] application catalog reviews
Dear maemo users, We are a step closer to officially announce the new Application Catalog: http://test.maemo.org/applications/ While we are reviewing the catalog at Nokia I would like to ask you to help us with the reviews. I have written a manual and would like to collect feedback from you: http://test.maemo.org/applications/user-manual We would really appreciate all questions, comments. If you have a little time and interest please send your mails to this list or to my address directly. Thank you in advance, Ferenc ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] A scary story with a happy ending
On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 11:19:12AM +0200, Eero Tamminen wrote: ext Marius Gedminas wrote: $ rm filename rm: filename: No space left on device Normal user shouldn't be able to fill the device rootfs this full, only root should be able to do that. And Application installer (which runs dpkg as root) should handle the case of installed package not fitting on the device. The package (bomberman from garage) was unpacked successfully, then ran out of disk space in the configuration phase. I've saved the log: osso-application-installer 4.22, UI version 1 /usr/bin/dpkg-deb -f '/media/mmc1/bomberman_0.98_armel.deb' /usr/bin/dpkg --install '/media/mmc1/bomberman_0.98_armel.deb' Selecting previously deselected package bomberman. (Reading database ... 12546 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking bomberman (from .../mmc1/bomberman_0.98_armel.deb) ... Setting up bomberman (0.98) ... Cache file created successfully. dpkg: error processing bomberman (--install): unable to flush updated status of `bomberman': No space left on device dpkg: failed to open `/var/lib/dpkg/status' for writing status information: No space left on device /usr/bin/dpkg --purge `/usr/bin/dpkg-deb -f '/media/mmc1/bomberman_0.98_armel.deb' Package` dpkg: unable to open/create status database lockfile: No space left on device apt-worker: Can't remove /var/lib/dpkg/lock: No space left on device E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (28 No space left on device) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root? apt-worker: Can't remove /var/lib/dpkg/lock: No space left on device E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (28 No space left on device) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root? I hope that's useful. It's possible that the packager has botched the package and it creates at installation files that won't be removed when the package install is canceled. This is the worst bug a package can have on a devices with limited disk space, on par with making Desktop to continuously crash. Had you any extra packages installed which might be running as root and e.g. logging things onto Flash? No. The only log file in /var/log was fontconfig.log. There's no free space until files been both removed *and* garbage collected by JFFS2. Some N770 users have also encountered the problem where the device enters reboot loop because the garbage collection on the device bootup triggers the device HW watchdog. I do not remember this reboot taking longer than usual. If you encounter this again, I would recommend backing up any important information before reboot if you can, just in case. (besides reporting it here...) Yep, that's what I did. A bit of a shame that tar in the 770 does not support pathnames longer than 100 characters. But those few files that could not be tar-ed up in my ~ were unimportant. Marius Gedminas -- As easy as 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716 signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] gcc compiler suite, linker, and make for ARM on ITOS2006
On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 09:40:20AM +0100, Jean-Christian de Rivaz wrote: But I must say that the first thing that prevent to use the device to do programm is the lack of a good editor adatpted to it. The Note application is unusable to do code and editor in xterm are very annoying because there heavly use CTRL ou ESC that are not easly to do on the device. The new maemo-hackers xterm has ctrl in a sidebar. And ESC is the hardware button just under the d-pad. vim works exceptionally well on the 770 with the virtual keyboard, especially with some mappings. Here's my .vimrc: http://pastey.net/5444 I'm not sure if there is a vim .deb with support for mouse_xterm, syntax highlighting and other features already. Maddler was building one when we talked about it on IRC last night. For the moment I use a self-compiled vim extracted in my home directory: http://mg.pov.lt/vim7-for-mistral.tar.gz Marius Gedminas -- Is it not true that nobody finds it impossible to believe that a double negative isn't bad grammatical form? -- Mike on alt.pizza.delivery.drivers signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] application catalog reviews
On 1/24/07, Ferenc Szekely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear maemo users, We are a step closer to officially announce the new Application Catalog: http://test.maemo.org/applications/ While we are reviewing the catalog at Nokia I would like to ask you to help us with the reviews. I have written a manual and would like to collect feedback from you: http://test.maemo.org/applications/user-manual We would really appreciate all questions, comments. If you have a little time and interest please send your mails to this list or to my address directly. cool, some questions! How can i see _all_ applications on a single page? It's useful when you want to see which apps are available to do a specific task! I've tried to click fetch with an empty keywork but it returns nothing! I'm trying to create a new application (fuse). I've filled all text box, added a screenshot and clicked on upload. Now there is this error: *Warning*: (pid:17780): Object's guid is empty! in * /usr/share/php/midcom/lib/midcom/core/privilege.php* on line *989 *After selecting save it tells me: *Notice*: Undefined offset: 1 in * /usr/share/php/midcom/lib/midcom/helper/datamanager2/type/images.php* on line *729* *Notice*: Undefined offset: 2 in * /usr/share/php/midcom/lib/midcom/helper/datamanager2/type/images.php* on line *729* *Notice*: Undefined offset: 1 in * /usr/share/php/midcom/lib/midcom/helper/datamanager2/type/blobs.php* on line *130 *oook, i had not selected the IT version and the description was too long (maybe the textbox can be limited to 200 chars?) Clicked save: *Notice*: Undefined offset: 1 in * /usr/share/php/midcom/lib/midcom/helper/datamanager2/type/images.php* on line *729* *Notice*: Undefined offset: 2 in * /usr/share/php/midcom/lib/midcom/helper/datamanager2/type/images.php* on line *729* *Notice*: Undefined offset: 1 in * /usr/share/php/midcom/lib/midcom/helper/datamanager2/type/blobs.php* on line *130* *Notice*: Array to string conversion in * /usr/share/php/HTML/QuickForm/Rule/Required.php* on line *39* *Notice*: Array to string conversion in * /usr/share/php/HTML/QuickForm/Rule/Required.php* on line *39 * description too long.. retrying... now: *Notice*: Undefined offset: 1 in * /usr/share/php/midcom/lib/midcom/helper/datamanager2/type/images.php* on line *729* *Notice*: Undefined offset: 2 in * /usr/share/php/midcom/lib/midcom/helper/datamanager2/type/images.php* on line *729* *Notice*: Undefined offset: 1 in * /usr/share/php/midcom/lib/midcom/helper/datamanager2/type/blobs.php* on line *130* *Notice*: Array to string conversion in * /usr/share/php/HTML/QuickForm/Rule/Required.php* on line *39* *Fatal error*: GObject missing or incorrectly initialized in * /usr/share/php/midcom/lib/midcom/core/privilege.php* on line *906 *mmm d'oh! now i can't change anything.. and no application added! the current url is: https://test.maemo.org/applications/product/create/25/application.html I have done something wrong ? ciao Luca ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] New Image?
Hi all, I saw the flash intro for the new N800. Pretty cool! Is it possible to install that OS on the N770? I liked the Media Player and the Flash player Is there a new version for the N770? I am running version 2.2006.39-14. Thanks! -- .::. Amichai Rotman UIN#: 6401746 Registered Linux User#: 201192 [http://counter.li.org/] PLEASE READ: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html .::. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] gcc compiler suite, linker, and make for ARM on ITOS2006
Thanks for the maemo-hackers xterm hint, this is definitly an improvment. I would just suggest to use smaller font for the CTRL bar functions to save space or to use a menu from a small CTRL icone (that will make a simple CTRL by default, as this is enough for most use) ? Of course the dream will be to let the user configure the bar... Marius Gedminas a écrit : On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 09:40:20AM +0100, Jean-Christian de Rivaz wrote: But I must say that the first thing that prevent to use the device to do programm is the lack of a good editor adatpted to it. The Note application is unusable to do code and editor in xterm are very annoying because there heavly use CTRL ou ESC that are not easly to do on the device. The new maemo-hackers xterm has ctrl in a sidebar. And ESC is the hardware button just under the d-pad. vim works exceptionally well on the 770 with the virtual keyboard, especially with some mappings. Here's my .vimrc: http://pastey.net/5444 I'm not sure if there is a vim .deb with support for mouse_xterm, syntax highlighting and other features already. Maddler was building one when we talked about it on IRC last night. For the moment I use a self-compiled vim extracted in my home directory: http://mg.pov.lt/vim7-for-mistral.tar.gz Marius Gedminas ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Jean-Christian de Rivaz ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] New Image?
On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 04:31:11PM +0200, Amichai Rotman wrote: I saw the flash intro for the new N800. Pretty cool! Is it possible to install that OS on the N770? I liked the Media Player and the Flash player No. There will be an unofficial port of the OS2007 patform to the 770, but the updated apps (Opera, Flash player, etc.) will not be available. Is there a new version for the N770? I am running version 2.2006.39-14. That's the newest version of OS2006.2 right now. Marius Gedminas -- For Sale: Parachute. Only used once, never opened, small stain. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: brightness Re: [maemo-users] Re: Storage/Sleep Issues..
Igor Stoppa wrote: Power saving is not so important when the _energy_ wasted is so little and for an event which is supposed to happen very seldom (you don't turn off your device, don't you?). Every time it crashes! :-) When using the Nokia at night, while watching TV in a dark room, the nokia can be absurdly bright during its reboot process. So bright, I have to face the nokia down on the couch while it reboots. So, the bright light is over whelming when you have the nokia set to its dimmest level because your eyes have adjusted to the dark. begin:vcard fn:Karl Bellve n:Bellve;Karl org:Biomedical Imaging Group;Department of Physiology adr:2 Biotech, Suite 114;;373 Plantation Street;Worcester;Massachusetts;01655;United States of America email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Assistant Professor tel;work:508-856-6514 tel;fax:508-856-6514 x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: [maemo-users] New Image?
On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 04:31:11PM +0200, Amichai Rotman wrote: I saw the flash intro for the new N800. Pretty cool! Is it possible to install that OS on the N770? I liked the Media Player and the Flash player No. There will be an unofficial port of the OS2007 patform to the 770, but the updated apps (Opera, Flash player, etc.) will not be available. Hi, Looks like we will have only a hacker edition of IT-2007 for the 770: https://garage.maemo.org/projects/os2007on770/ Br, --jakub ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] application catalog reviews
On 1/24/07, Jonathan Matthews-Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/24/07, Ferenc Szekely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have written a manual and would like to collect feedback from you: http://test.maemo.org/applications/user-manual Very nice! Here are my first thoughts, primarily from a consumer perspective. I personally think this PoV is *very* important, having written user-manuals for (apparently) simple operations and tasks which I thought were as clear as possible, only to have inexperienced, confused and - yes - bloody minded users poke holes in my prose :-) I've not looked at the less consumer-oriented project admin sections ... I was looking forward receiving comments like yours. Thanks a lot! __General Points__ o Limit (but don't hard code!) the text width for better readability The choice of documentation tool (wiki) is limiting us as far as the layout is concerned. Perhaps some css fix could be applied. o Break the document into two; separate the how to use a website tutorial (Browsing/Searching/Installing) which users will read out from the how to be a project admin section (Adding/Changing/Deleting). They are aimed at two very different audiences and the latter half of the document will only scare consumers ... :-) Absolutely correct. Good idea. __Section-specific Points__ * Introduction to Application Catalog o Don't make the link to the old wiki based catalog clickable. Put the URL after it for reference, but don't provide an easy way to revert to the old, un-updated mechanism. o The third sentence has a typo: at the end of 2006, o The fifth sentence should read if you could enter your feedbacks IN our issue tracker o Consider making the maemo2midgard-discussion link a mailto: link, with the mailman interface link in brackets at the end of the sentence. Yep, good points. * Overview o Use full sentences (Think Of The Children^WConsumers!) (Browse through the list of all available applications vs browse applications, etc.) o Link the verbs through to the appropriate section. Agreed. * Installation with install file o make sure that it matches the operating system version - how, as a consumer? Are there any (well, I *know* there are!) rules of thumb they can apply? Yes, sure there are. I will add info on how to check the OS versions on the tablets. o Applications that are placed in a proper Debian style repository can have install files and making the single click installation possible - consumers don't care. This is more appropriate in the Adding a project section, as it's a developer's choice, not a user's ... True. * Installation without install file o Tidy this section up. Use more whitespace. Perhaps make a screenshot trail. It will probably be one of the most frequently used sections by consumers and, as such, *very* obvious/clear/pretty instructions will really help this audience to get the most out of their device. I agree. Although it is difficult to write a generic how-to for these applications. As you probably know many apps can be installed by a single deb file, but a lot of them need other packages to be installed first. Even these dependencies may have further dependencies sometimes.. So it is a real nightmare from user point of view. The screenshot tail is a good idea. I wonder if there is and applet already for N800 to take screenshots :) HTH, Jonathan Absolutely, thank you. I will work on the updates now and will keep you posted. Cheers, ferenc ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] application catalog reviews
Perhaps I missed this point: are the deb packages that already reside in the maemo extra repository automatically added to this new system or should the developers add them manually? BTW the new catalog appears very promising. 2007/1/24, Ferenc Szekely [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dear maemo users, We are a step closer to officially announce the new Application Catalog: http://test.maemo.org/applications/ While we are reviewing the catalog at Nokia I would like to ask you to help us with the reviews. I have written a manual and would like to collect feedback from you: http://test.maemo.org/applications/user-manual We would really appreciate all questions, comments. If you have a little time and interest please send your mails to this list or to my address directly. Thank you in advance, Ferenc ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Alessandro Pasotti w3: www.itopen.it ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] application catalog reviews
On 1/24/07, Alessandro Pasotti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps I missed this point: are the deb packages that already reside in the maemo extra repository automatically added to this new system or should the developers add them manually? Something I've been wondering too. I don't want to have to create information for every resulting package from mud[1], given the maemo.org box already knows it from the DEBIAN/control files. BTW the new catalog appears very promising. Agreed. Cheers, Andrew [1] Now over 15 packages, including ImageMagick, Ruby, Screen and more... http://mud-builder.garage.maemo.org/ -- Andrew Flegg -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.bleb.org/ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] os2006 frequent vfat badblocks
as i've begun to use a bit more the mmc memory of my n770 (now i use it as music player) i get corrupted mp3 files that media player can't play. i've noticed that the vfat fs gets corrupted and has plenty bad blocks: # mkdosfs -c -v /dev/sdb1 mkdosfs 2.11 (12 Mar 2005) /dev/sdb1 has 32 heads and 32 sectors per track, logical sector size is 512, using 0xf8 media descriptor, with 1002496 sectors; file system has 2 16-bit FATs and 16 sectors per cluster. FAT size is 245 sectors, and provides 62623 clusters. Root directory contains 512 slots. Volume ID is 45b77a5a, no volume label. Searching for bad blocks 4064... 8288... 12512... 16736... 20960... 25184... 29408... 33632... 37856... 42080... 46304... 50528... 54752... 58976... 63200... 67424... 71648... 75872... 80096... 84320... 88544... 92768... 96992... 101216... 105440... 109664... 113888... 118112... 122336... 126560... 130784... 135008... 139232... 143456... 147680... 151904... 156128... 160352... 164576... 168800... 173024... 177248... 181472... 185696... 189920... 194144... 198368... 202592... 206816... 211040... 215264... 219488... 223712... 227936... 232160... 236384... 240608... 244832... 249056... 253280... 257504... 261728... 265952... 270176... 274400... 278624... 282848... 286944... 291168... 295392... 299488... 303712... 307920... 312032... 316240... 320224... 324320... 328416... 332512... 336608... 340704... 344800... 348896... 353120... 357344... 361568... 365792... 370016... 374240... 378464... 382688... 386912... 391136... 395360... 399584... 403808... 408032... 412256... 416480... 420704... 424928... 429152... 433376... 437600... 441824... 446048... 450272... 454496... 458720... 462944... 467168... 471392... 475616... 479840... 484064... 488288... 492512... 496736... 500960... is this behaviour usual with such low usage ? ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Maemo-hackers xterm
Jean-Christian de Rivaz wrote: Thanks for the maemo-hackers xterm hint, this is definitly an improvment. Yes, and the handwriting input method works too. Thanks maemo-hackers! -- Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga Programmer-Archaeologist UPR Bioinformatics Resource Center http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Pengupop
Hi all, A release of Pengupop is available on garage.maemo.org. Pengupop is a funny Puzzle Bobble game. It is possible to play alone or online with an opponent. With a username/password (available by registering on junaplay.org), the score is saved on server. It is possible to replay the parties on junaplay site. I have just ported to 770 with a launcher to enter username/password. All seems to work well. Thanks to test, Jean-Luc Biord ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: brightness Re: [maemo-users] Re: Storage/Sleep Issues..
Karl Bellve wrote: Igor Stoppa wrote: Power saving is not so important when the _energy_ wasted is so little and for an event which is supposed to happen very seldom (you don't turn off your device, don't you?). Every time it crashes! :-) When using the Nokia at night, while watching TV in a dark room, the nokia can be absurdly bright during its reboot process. So bright, I have to face the nokia down on the couch while it reboots. So, the bright light is over whelming when you have the nokia set to its dimmest level because your eyes have adjusted to the dark. Exactly. That is my second (and maybe bigger) concern. Reboot or crash at night is not a pleasant thing. While it is supposed to happen very seldom in reality it is not such rare event. And the backligh really does not consume significant power? I thought it can be half of power consumption on such devices. It was like that on ipaq 3870 I had. I remeber something like 80mA when display off ~130mA minimum brightness ~200mA full brightness, ~300mA full brightness + 100%CPU (not sure about exact values, it is long time ago, it was available as file in /proc in Familiar linux). On N770 I cannot check easily since some parts of power management is ... guess what? There is this myth about hidden power management ;-) But anyway is there some real reason while the default cannot be much lower until device boots to the point where user specified setting is honored? Frantisek ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] application catalog reviews
Alessandro Pasotti wrote: Perhaps I missed this point: are the deb packages that already reside in the maemo extra repository automatically added to this new system or should the developers add them manually? Seems so or somebody did the dirty work for me. ScummVM is included and the only thing I did is upload to (old) extras repository. BTW is it possible to have comments/discussion for each item or even little home page with screenshots and maybe some maemo specific tips for users or small manual? As for scummvm most people probably don't know how to do right click or add game folder on mmc card or where saved games are stored and how to backup them. Would be nice to have it near the entry. Also rating might be good. Or maybe it is supposed to link home page to garage project home page and such things should be there? Is this new application catalog replacement for garage or addition? Frantisek ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: brightness Re: [maemo-users] Re: Storage/Sleep Issues..
OK, reported as https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=965 so it is not forgotten. Frantisek ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] application catalog reviews
On 1/24/07, Frantisek Dufka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alessandro Pasotti wrote: Perhaps I missed this point: are the deb packages that already reside in the maemo extra repository automatically added to this new system or should the developers add them manually? Seems so or somebody did the dirty work for me. ScummVM is included and the only thing I did is upload to (old) extras repository. We copied the old 2006 apps at the end of November, last year. BTW is it possible to have comments/discussion for each item or even little home page with screenshots and maybe some maemo specific tips for users or small manual? As for scummvm most people probably don't know how to do right click or add game folder on mmc card or where saved games are stored and how to backup them. Would be nice to have it near the entry. Also rating might be good. Or maybe it is supposed to link home page to garage project home page and such things should be there? You can specify the homepage of your project where you can give additional information. We would like to encourage to provide detailed instructions for the users, for instance about installation, in case the single click install does not work. I don't think that we should blow the catalog by adding more fields. It is just extra hassle to fill them in :) Rating will be added in the future. This is the very first version of the new catalog :) We welcome feature requests at: https://garage.maemo.org/tracker/?atid=460group_id=106func=browse Is this new application catalog replacement for garage or addition? It is an additional service, but not particularly an addition to garage. Rather like a replacement of the old wiki catalog. Frantisek Cheers, ferenc ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Python installation failure on N800
Google on red pill mode for nokia device and enable it. This will give you access to extra pkgs not for joe-consumer. Repositories have been down for me since early last night. mike Robson, Alan wrote: I tried to install python 2.5 for OS2007 via the maemo website but my N800 tells me that it is unable to install because some packages required for the installation are missing. libglade2-0(=1.2.3.6) libsdl-ttf2.0-0 libsdl-ttf2.0-0 (yes, that really does appear twice !) libgdbm3 I must have got one of the first N800s, I bought it on the day they were launched at CES. By any chance do I have an outdated version of OS2007 ? Is it reasonable to expect to be able to just click the 'Click here to install' button in the maemo application search engine and have it install ? Alan ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: [maemo-users] Python installation failure on N800
I take your point, I went back to blue pill mode after I'd played with it a while, it's good to know that one can switch back and forth between the modes. The reason I purchased the device was so that I could play with things like this, it's not such a closed box as, say, a Treo. These red-pill-like features are exactly what I was looking for. And if it gets me into trouble from time to time then I will just have to re-flash. The same could be said for installing the xterm or python. It's good to have an inexpensive device that's bringing some of the fun back into computing - just like my ZX81 once did. Thanks all Alan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Marius Gedminas Sent: Wed 1/24/2007 10:23 AM To: maemo-users@maemo.org Subject: Re: [maemo-users] Python installation failure on N800 On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 10:00:51AM -0800, Mike Klein wrote: Robson, Alan wrote: I tried to install python 2.5 for OS2007 via the maemo website but my N800 tells me that it is unable to install because some packages required for the installation are missing. libglade2-0(=1.2.3.6) libsdl-ttf2.0-0 libsdl-ttf2.0-0 (yes, that really does appear twice !) libgdbm3 Google on red pill mode for nokia device and enable it. This will give you access to extra pkgs not for joe-consumer. Red-pill mode is irrelevant when the application installer looks for dependencies. I think it is a bad idea to have the red-pill mode enabled all the time. You may decide to upgrade some system package (e.g. maemo-launcher) and as a result make the system unbootable. Marius Gedminas -- In order to get a loan you must first prove you don't need it. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Python installation failure on N800
On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 01:34:44PM -0500, Robson, Alan wrote: I take your point, I went back to blue pill mode after I'd played with it a while, it's good to know that one can switch back and forth between the modes. The reason I purchased the device was so that I could play with things like this, it's not such a closed box as, say, a Treo. These red-pill-like features are exactly what I was looking for. And if it gets me into trouble from time to time then I will just have to re-flash. The same could be said for installing the xterm or python. Absolutely. But it's a bit like using sudo every time you need to do something dangerous versus always logging in as root. Marius Gedminas -- A secret: don't tell DARPA I'm not building the sun destroying weapon they think I am. -- Michael Salib, the author of Starkiller signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] FYI -- The Nokia N800 And Its GUI Shortcomings From a Newton Developer's Perspective
Thought people here might find this of interest. I had a MessagePad 2100 myself and reading this I am struck by many of the same observations... http://cs.gmu.edu/~sean/stuff/n800/ The Nokia N800 And Its GUI Shortcomings From a Newton Developer's Perspective -- Jonathan Greene m 917.560.3000 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gizmo - JonathanGreene blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Re: brightness Re: Re: Storage/Sleep Issues..
Igor Stoppa wrote: Power saving is not so important when the _energy_ wasted is so little and for an event which is supposed to happen very seldom (you don't turn off your device, don't you?). Igor - it's pretty obvious you use your N800 very differently to the rest of us. Do you take yours out of the lab, put it in your pocket with or without keys, use it in a very dark room, etc. etc.? It seems you don't otherwise you'd have more appreciation for the fundamental flaws in the current design - we don't all use our device like you want us to! :) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Re: brightness Re: Re: Storage/Sleep Issues..
I don't ever turn mine off either... It's always ready for action and I actually discovered today if you do the two button sleep combo your internet connection stays active which is cool so when you reconnect, the email or rss feeds are current. I've been carrying my N800 in my pocket and I've grown quite accustomed to how it works compared to the N770. On 1/24/07, Neil MacLeod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Igor Stoppa wrote: Power saving is not so important when the _energy_ wasted is so little and for an event which is supposed to happen very seldom (you don't turn off your device, don't you?). Igor - it's pretty obvious you use your N800 very differently to the rest of us. Do you take yours out of the lab, put it in your pocket with or without keys, use it in a very dark room, etc. etc.? It seems you don't otherwise you'd have more appreciation for the fundamental flaws in the current design - we don't all use our device like you want us to! :) ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Jonathan Greene m 917.560.3000 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gizmo - JonathanGreene blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] A scary story with a happy ending
Marius Gedminas wrote: Yesterday I installed a couple of games into my 770. And one of the games didn't fit--I've filled up the partition. Scary things started You said it was the package Bomberman. Did the game install right with enough memory left (after you rebooted)? -Klaus-- Klaus Rotter * klaus at rotters dot de * www.rotters.de ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Game Bomberman: on-screen buttons
Levi Bard wrote: Looks great! I'd swap the up/down buttons with the power/bomb buttons, though, so one can use the hardware d-pad with the left and bomb with the right, if one so chooses. Done. Please look at Bomberman 0.99 Changelog: Added: load/save preferences (automatic), disable mouse cursor (I hope so), possibility to change soft keys left/right, removed bug which caused sometimes man walking in one direction without any key pressed (soft keys) PLEASE: Test network mode and return success problems! -Klaus -- Klaus Rotter * klaus at rotters dot de * www.rotters.de ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] A scary story with a happy ending
On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 11:47:51PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marius Gedminas wrote: Yesterday I installed a couple of games into my 770. And one of the games didn't fit--I've filled up the partition. Scary things started You said it was the package Bomberman. Did the game install right with enough memory left (after you rebooted)? I didn't try installing it again -- I was busy with other things for quite some time ;) Can you *please* upload it into the Maemo Extras repository? Hunting down the .deb file manually, downloading it, then hunting for it again on the file system to install it is tedious. And it can make the difference between someone installing the game or not installing it. http://maemo.org/maemowiki/ExtrasRepository Cheers, Marius Gedminas -- Writing about music is like dancing about architecture. -- Frank Zappa signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] A scary story with a happy ending
On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 01:17:55AM +0200, Marius Gedminas wrote: On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 11:47:51PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marius Gedminas wrote: Yesterday I installed a couple of games into my 770. And one of the games didn't fit--I've filled up the partition. Scary things started You said it was the package Bomberman. Did the game install right with enough memory left (after you rebooted)? I didn't try installing it again -- I was busy with other things for quite some time ;) I installed bomberman 0.99 now. It works. During installation it asks me to choose a menu location, and offers Extras by default. It would be better to offer Games by default -- and I've seen games that do that. It would be best to not distract the user with silly questions and always add the menu item in the Games menu. Marius Gedminas -- If you want to trick a pointy-haired boss into letting you write software in Lisp, you could try telling him it's XML. -- http://www.paulgraham.com/icad.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Game Bomberman: on-screen buttons
works well for me and suggested Games oni my N800... Is there supposed to be sound? On 1/24/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Levi Bard wrote: Looks great! I'd swap the up/down buttons with the power/bomb buttons, though, so one can use the hardware d-pad with the left and bomb with the right, if one so chooses. Done. Please look at Bomberman 0.99 Changelog: Added: load/save preferences (automatic), disable mouse cursor (I hope so), possibility to change soft keys left/right, removed bug which caused sometimes man walking in one direction without any key pressed (soft keys) PLEASE: Test network mode and return success problems! -Klaus -- Klaus Rotter * klaus at rotters dot de * www.rotters.de ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Jonathan Greene m 917.560.3000 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gizmo - JonathanGreene blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Re: [maemo-developers] Pengupop
On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 05:05:14PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A release of Pengupop is available on garage.maemo.org. Pengupop is a funny Puzzle Bobble game. Frozen bubble! It is possible to play alone or online with an opponent. With a username/password (available by registering on junaplay.org), the score is saved on server. It is possible to replay the parties on junaplay site. I have just ported to 770 with a launcher to enter username/password. All seems to work well. Yes. The start up takes a long time. For a second I was worried. The 770's CPU is barely strong enough. Sometimes the game lags. The controls are not very good. It is easy to press the select key and shoot the bubble by accident. It is also very very hard to press an arrow key just once; it starts autorepeating too soon. (This is a problem with many applications; I wish there was a way to use 'xset r rate' on the 770). Pengupop installed the menu item into Extras rather than Games. And it is not available from the Extras repository. Marius Gedminas -- If it ain't broke, don't fix it. - Bert Lantz signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Re: [maemo-developers] Pengupop
Marius Gedminas wrote: On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 05:05:14PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A release of Pengupop is available on garage.maemo.org. Pengupop is a funny Puzzle Bobble game. Frozen bubble! Most excellent! I tried online, and got smoked, but it works on my n800 fine. Startup is fast. -- Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga Programmer-Archaeologist University of Puerto Rico http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] A scary story with a happy ending
Am 25 Jan 2007 um 1:17 hat Marius Gedminas geschrieben: Can you *please* upload it into the Maemo Extras repository? Hunting down the .deb file manually, downloading it, then hunting for it again on the file system to install it is tedious. And it can make the difference between someone installing the game or not installing it. I will talk to the managers at the Maemo Extras repository... -Klaus -- Klaus Rotter * klaus at rotters dot de * www.rotters.de ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: (Fwd) Re: [maemo-users] A scary story with a happy ending
On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 01:59:36AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: During installation it asks me to choose a menu location, and offers Extras by default. It would be better to offer Games by default -- Hm... I installed it also today ;-) and I remember it asks for Games. Two possible reasons: Maybe it is because I use 2006-39-14 and you not (just guessing) or I also use this version. application installer remembers the place where a package was installed before. Don't know... Could be. I installed a game, chose games, installed another game, noticed that it offers games, thought hmm, nice, but it'd be even nicer if it didn't bother me with silly questions, then reflashed and the installer offered the default choice -- extras -- for bomberman. and I've seen games that do that. It would be best to not distract the user with silly questions and always add the menu item in the Games menu. Anyone from nokia/maemo team who knows the answer? Time to RTFM? http://maemo.org/platform/docs/howtos/howto_making_an_application_package.html#utilities - maemo-select-menu-location app.desktop [default-folder] ... The default-folder parameter is optional, and when given determines the default folder of the menu entry. If you omit it, the menu entry will appear in Extras. So, it *is* possible. Marius Gedminas -- I saw `cout' being shifted Hello world times to the left and stopped right there!! -- Steve Gonedes signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: (Fwd) Re: [maemo-users] A scary story with a happy ending
Marius Gedminas wrote: Time to RTFM? Argh... I feared it... ;-) http://maemo.org/platform/docs/howtos/howto_making_an_application_package.html#utilities - maemo-select-menu-location app.desktop [default-folder] [...] The default-folder parameter is optional, and when given determines the default folder of the menu entry. If you omit it, the menu entry will appear in Extras. Ok, I am still learning... next version will have it. ;-) -Klaus -- Klaus Rotter * klaus at rotters dot de * www.rotters.de ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: brightness Re: [maemo-users] Re: Storage/Sleep Issues..
On Wednesday 24 January 2007 06:52, Karl Bellve wrote: Igor Stoppa wrote: Power saving is not so important when the _energy_ wasted is so little and for an event which is supposed to happen very seldom (you don't turn off your device, don't you?). Every time it crashes! :-) When using the Nokia at night, while watching TV in a dark room, the nokia can be absurdly bright during its reboot process. So bright, I have to face the nokia down on the couch while it reboots. So, the bright light is over whelming when you have the nokia set to its dimmest level because your eyes have adjusted to the dark. Good this means I'm not the only one who has blinded himself doing the exact same thing. ;) However it makes a great nightlight when needing to get up and go to the restroom. James ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] application catalog reviews
On Wednesday 24 January 2007 04:46, Ferenc Szekely wrote: Dear maemo users, We are a step closer to officially announce the new Application Catalog: http://test.maemo.org/applications/ Initial look. It is very readable on the large screen of my laptop. However it begins to break down when I come at it with the 770. It's a bit slow there (on a wifi connection) but tolerable. Layout on both desktop and palmtop screens are the same. However with the 770 (Opera browser) if I try to select an OS from the pulldown it won't recognize my selection. The same holds true for the other pulldowns as well. I get a chance to select it just doesn't update with my selection. The Minimo browser works as it should. This page with a limited number of returns does suffer from the same problem as the wiki page does in that it already is getting too large to load in a reasonable amount of time. On a high speed connection I get load times of 13sec for Minimo if I choose IT2006/Any License/Any Status and right now there are only about 20 apps listed. IMHO there is too great a load time, and too much scroll time to work. (up down) You might try making the developers work from the Nokia to develop the page *grin* Over all a big step in the right direction. James While we are reviewing the catalog at Nokia I would like to ask you to help us with the reviews. I have written a manual and would like to collect feedback from you: http://test.maemo.org/applications/user-manual We would really appreciate all questions, comments. If you have a little time and interest please send your mails to this list or to my address directly. Thank you in advance, Ferenc ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Card reader errors across multiple devices - bad N800 production line batche?
All, I purchased N800 #1 and tested a 'known to work' 4Gb Transcend 150x SD (non-HC) card on it. Formatting and then initializing with swap corrupted the card. I dosfsck'd it under Linux and the report was a corrupted header. If I fix it and put it back in the N800 it is readable. The N800 is unable to format it without corrupting it. So I figured the N800 was maybe bad. I returned to CompUSA who replaced it with N800 #2. The new one has the same issue. The kicker is that the last octet of the MAC address differs by about 5. So this leads me to believe that both of these were from the same production batch. The internal and external readers have the same problems. This card works without problems in a camera, garmin, phone, 3 desktop and 1 laptop-integrated card readers (one being around 2 years old, the others being newer). The device hw version on these two is 1301. Has anyone else experienced this issue? Could we have a h/w rev or faulty batch of card readers here? Cheers Kon ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] application catalog reviews
On Wednesday 24 January 2007 07:10, Ferenc Szekely wrote: On 1/24/07, Jonathan Matthews-Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/24/07, Ferenc Szekely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ***snip for brevity** * Installation without install file o Tidy this section up. Use more whitespace. Perhaps make a screenshot trail. It will probably be one of the most frequently used sections by consumers and, as such, *very* obvious/clear/pretty instructions will really help this audience to get the most out of their device. I agree. Although it is difficult to write a generic how-to for these applications. As you probably know many apps can be installed by a single deb file, but a lot of them need other packages to be installed first. Even these dependencies may have further dependencies sometimes.. So it is a real nightmare from user point of view. The screenshot tail is a good idea. I wonder if there is and applet already for N800 to take screenshots :) This is why IMHO taking advantage of debian and apt-get would help. debs, when built correctly, can and do manage dependencies for you. There is no reason on a modern Linux OS to go nuts over dependencies. James ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Card reader errors across multiple devices - bad N800 production line batche?
Just curious whether you are using the updated 2007 release or the one that comes installed in the box? On 1/24/07, Kon Wilms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, I purchased N800 #1 and tested a 'known to work' 4Gb Transcend 150x SD (non-HC) card on it. Formatting and then initializing with swap corrupted the card. I dosfsck'd it under Linux and the report was a corrupted header. If I fix it and put it back in the N800 it is readable. The N800 is unable to format it without corrupting it. So I figured the N800 was maybe bad. I returned to CompUSA who replaced it with N800 #2. The new one has the same issue. The kicker is that the last octet of the MAC address differs by about 5. So this leads me to believe that both of these were from the same production batch. The internal and external readers have the same problems. This card works without problems in a camera, garmin, phone, 3 desktop and 1 laptop-integrated card readers (one being around 2 years old, the others being newer). The device hw version on these two is 1301. Has anyone else experienced this issue? Could we have a h/w rev or faulty batch of card readers here? Cheers Kon ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Jonathan Greene m 917.560.3000 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gizmo - JonathanGreene blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Card reader errors across multiple devices - bad N800 production line batche?
Both, as well as the updated test kernel with SDHC support. All have the same effect. Cheers Kon On 1/24/07, Jonathan Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just curious whether you are using the updated 2007 release or the one that comes installed in the box? On 1/24/07, Kon Wilms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, I purchased N800 #1 and tested a 'known to work' 4Gb Transcend 150x SD (non-HC) card on it. Formatting and then initializing with swap corrupted the card. I dosfsck'd it under Linux and the report was a corrupted header. If I fix it and put it back in the N800 it is readable. The N800 is unable to format it without corrupting it. So I figured the N800 was maybe bad. I returned to CompUSA who replaced it with N800 #2. The new one has the same issue. The kicker is that the last octet of the MAC address differs by about 5. So this leads me to believe that both of these were from the same production batch. The internal and external readers have the same problems. This card works without problems in a camera, garmin, phone, 3 desktop and 1 laptop-integrated card readers (one being around 2 years old, the others being newer). The device hw version on these two is 1301. Has anyone else experienced this issue? Could we have a h/w rev or faulty batch of card readers here? Cheers Kon ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Jonathan Greene m 917.560.3000 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gizmo - JonathanGreene blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Opera tweaks
Hello list, I am interested to know, some tweaks for Opera web-browser, my main concern right now is to be able to scroll page up-down without selecting links. Default behavior that I have noticed by now is that the links are selected upon scrolling. any ideas ? something like about:config in opera ? Cheers, Kevin ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Opera tweaks
Press and hold on the D-Pad does a faster scroll. the tap just goes to the next link... Have not found page down or up... On 1/24/07, Anuj Verma (Kevin) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello list, I am interested to know, some tweaks for Opera web-browser, my main concern right now is to be able to scroll page up-down without selecting links. Default behavior that I have noticed by now is that the links are selected upon scrolling. any ideas ? something like about:config in opera ? Cheers, Kevin ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Jonathan Greene m 917.560.3000 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gizmo - JonathanGreene blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Re: Opera tweaks
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 23:56:35 -0500, Jonathan Greene wrote: Press and hold on the D-Pad does a faster scroll. the tap just goes to the next link... Have not found page down or up... True this is working, but one might not do a fast scroll while patiently reading off a page, this will need more help. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Tips for best usage maintainance practices for N800 ?
Hello list, I got my N800 device on Tuesday and I am glad for this device, but since this is my first Nokia 770/N800 device I'll better ask for your help. 1. N800 heats I have noticed that while keeping N800 on charging while say if I am playing radio streams, the back of the device seems heated. - Please suggest why and howto prevent ? 2. Poweroff needed when not in use ? I just leave this device on, I had been using palm devices before and I had never noticed a power off function there only reset. - How is this different in N800 ? - Should I power off this device when I am not using it ? Regards, Kevin ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Re: Opera tweaks
On 1/25/07, Anuj Verma (Kevin) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 23:56:35 -0500, Jonathan Greene wrote: Press and hold on the D-Pad does a faster scroll. the tap just goes to the next link... Have not found page down or up... True this is working, but one might not do a fast scroll while patiently reading off a page, this will need more help. I've become quite good at swiping the screen with the stylus or my finger. I also have a ThinkOutside Stowaway keyboard which enables paging functions among other nice additions. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Tips for best usage maintainance practices for N800 ?
The heat is just the system being well used! :) Mine does the same -- especially streaming for an extended period. I don't power-off at all - just leave it on and use the Power Key / D-Pad combo to lock the screen and buttons. If you match the duration (Control Panel / Display) for both the Brightness and switch off (say to 2 min) the screen will immediately shut down and lock. The unit is still on and will actually still remain or continue to connect based on your timeout settings... I usually leave mine in this way on my night stand charging overnight and in the am, it's connected and live with the latest info... I have the RSS Reader set to auto-refresh every 30 min on any connection which re-initiates any timed out issue. Unlike the Palm, there is an actual power function, which you can opt to use if you like. I think it's a personal thing. I like that it's just on and ready to do what I ask, without having to wait the 1-2 min to start up. On 1/25/07, Anuj Verma (Kevin) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello list, I got my N800 device on Tuesday and I am glad for this device, but since this is my first Nokia 770/N800 device I'll better ask for your help. 1. N800 heats I have noticed that while keeping N800 on charging while say if I am playing radio streams, the back of the device seems heated. - Please suggest why and howto prevent ? 2. Poweroff needed when not in use ? I just leave this device on, I had been using palm devices before and I had never noticed a power off function there only reset. - How is this different in N800 ? - Should I power off this device when I am not using it ? Regards, Kevin ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Jonathan Greene m 917.560.3000 AIM / iChat - atmasphere gtalk / jabber - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gizmo - JonathanGreene blog - http://www.atmasphere.net/wp ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Re: Opera tweaks
On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 00:19:10 -0500, Jonathan Greene wrote: I've become quite good at swiping the screen with the stylus or my finger. I also have a ThinkOutside Stowaway keyboard which enables paging functions among other nice additions. I am not able to have such accessories as of now, and even if I have one I'll not be using it all the time. I'll love to seek more suggestions. Cheers, Kevin ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Gvideo friends
Hello list, Having the N800, I'll love to make new friends across world using Google video/Gizmo and other apps coming up. I'll be glad if any of you care, please feel free to send me an email. I'll like to make friends to discuss tech stuff, Linux more generally :-) I work for a Linux vendor at a global location in India, I am at work usually 10am to 8pm IST. Feel free to ping me off work hours. Cheers, Kevin ID: kevinverma ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: [maemo-users] Re: Opera tweaks
Anuj Verma (Kevin) wrote: On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 00:19:10 -0500, Jonathan Greene wrote: I've become quite good at swiping the screen with the stylus or my finger. I also have a ThinkOutside Stowaway keyboard which enables paging functions among other nice additions. I am not able to have such accessories as of now, and even if I have one I'll not be using it all the time. I'll love to seek more suggestions. You can try: http://maemo.org/maemowiki/ScrollInOperaWithThumb I haven't tried it since OS 2005. -- Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga Programmer-Archaeologist University of Puerto Rico http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Re: Opera tweaks
On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 01:52:08 -0400, Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga wrote: You can try: http://maemo.org/maemowiki/ScrollInOperaWithThumb I haven't tried it since OS 2005. Hi Humberto, Many thanks, I'll sure give it a try, but let me share across I think the best scrolling I could find so far for handhelds was with Opera mini Just taking a look at this I am not sure if this comes parallel to that, but I'll revert once I give this a try. Cheers, Kevin ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
[maemo-users] Java for N800
Hello list, Please advice for Java possibilities for N800, so one can install and run Java apps, like Opera mini etc. I'll try to explore that myself soon, if that is possible et-all. Regards, Kevin ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
