Re: OS2008 Damn ugly!!!
On Wednesday 02 January 2008 02:55:39 Tuomas Kuosmanen wrote: On Thu, 2007-12-27 at 21:59 -0300, ext Alfredo J. Fabretti wrote: Designers need constructive criticism, comments like the original post only hurts their feelings. It's not that much about feelings really - we develop a pretty thick skin sooner than later :-) Anyhow, constructive criticism is of course useful. It's a lot more about practical thinking: resources are limited (even in a large corporation - time being one of the more scarce resources usually) and it makes sense to focus on certain scenarios and try to cover them well, rather than trying to do everything at once. Then you test it and see if it works, and if not, you repeat until it does, given the timeframe you have. It's not like we wear a beret and moustache and sip red wine* to come up with The Design and reveal it to the programmers from under a red velvet cloth in a ceremony.. But you probably knew that already ;) This results in a product that cannot please everyone, but hopefully does work for the target group. The challenge of course is to aim at the correct target in the first place, but this is getting way offtopic already ;^) Have a good 2008 everyone, and thanks for all the good feedback on the new OS release! :) //Tuomas Toumas, The only thing you can do is make it damn configurable The only WM I've ever seen that it out of the box drop dead beautiful is IMHO 'e' but hey...that's me. Each of us goes our own way. James ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: OS2008 Damn ugly!!!
DrFredC.com wrote: James Knott wrote: Now that I've installed OS2008, how do I get it to look acceptable? The current screen, no matter what theme I select is damn ugly and makes me want to go back to OS2007. Is there any way to restore the appearance of OS2007 to replace this crap??? For starters, rather than ranting up a stinkola, you might take things into your own hands and create several background pictures in 400x240 format that looks attractive to you and rotate them into the home page background. In 08OS, many of the home page apps have a partially transparent mode that lets the background bleed thru. After working with it for a while, you might grow fond of the customizable evolution. Also, just because the new home screen is different doesn't make it ugly. Everything is in constant evolution. If you give things a few weeks/months, some other themes may appear. You may or may not like them when they arrive. Given your splatting your extreme negativity all over this list, I'd not expect a lot of warm fuzzy support from developers listening to any of your critiques of their work. It's not the different home screen. It the horrible choice of colors etc. Have you tried the all black hand writing input? Do you think that looks nice? It may not be polite, but crap is crap. The OS2007 looked much nicer. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: OS2008 Damn ugly!!!
James Knott wrote: Michael Wiktowy wrote: I happen to like the new themes. I also happen to like the idea of making the old theme available in the new OS since consistency is best with users who are unfamiliar with computers and/or get freaked out by change. Perhaps you can look into converting the old one over and sharing it with others who share your aesthetic sense. I don't know why, but there seems to be a general trend to make things ugly or dumbed down. It's not just with the N800, but a lot of other things too. I've been able to improve the appearance somewhat, but it's still not very attractive. For example, I like to use the hand writing input, but the panel is a big mass of black that not only looks bad, but is harder to see the details of it. In the terminal program, I used to have green text on black, but while I can set the background to black, I don't see any way to change the text colour. It's always black. It would be nice, if the old styles was available. BTW, I don't need icons etc., that look like they belong on a child's toy. Fortunately for all of us, the world does not revolve around you (although you seem to think it does?). Ognen ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: OS2008 Damn ugly!!!
On Dec 27, 2007 3:42 PM, James Knott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is harder to see the details of it. In the terminal program, I used to have green text on black, but while I can set the background to black, I don't see any way to change the text colour. It's always black. It would The text color can be selected in the same place as the other settings affecting the text ...easy to miss if you're just looking to change fg and bg colors, but it's not /that/ far away... 't. ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: OS2008 Damn ugly!!!
On Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 07:25:23PM -0500, James Knott wrote: :Now that I've installed OS2008, how do I get it to look acceptable? The :current screen, no matter what theme I select is damn ugly and makes me :want to go back to OS2007. Is there any way to restore the appearance :of OS2007 to replace this crap??? it's open, fix it. a few thematic changes don't require uber hacker skills. for myself the asthetics seem like minor evolutionary changes and I don't notice any particular difference in the input methods ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: OS2008 Damn ugly!!!
Michael Wiktowy wrote: I happen to like the new themes. I also happen to like the idea of making the old theme available in the new OS since consistency is best with users who are unfamiliar with computers and/or get freaked out by change. Perhaps you can look into converting the old one over and sharing it with others who share your aesthetic sense. I don't know why, but there seems to be a general trend to make things ugly or dumbed down. It's not just with the N800, but a lot of other things too. I've been able to improve the appearance somewhat, but it's still not very attractive. For example, I like to use the hand writing input, but the panel is a big mass of black that not only looks bad, but is harder to see the details of it. In the terminal program, I used to have green text on black, but while I can set the background to black, I don't see any way to change the text colour. It's always black. It would be nice, if the old styles was available. BTW, I don't need icons etc., that look like they belong on a child's toy. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: OS2008 Damn ugly!!!
[No attribution with modest, I'm afraid] James knott wrote: Martin Grimme wrote: maybe you could be more specific about what's so damn ugly on OS2008? That would be a very long list. I'll have to look into that Plankton theme. Have you restored from a backup which perhaps could've broken your theme? I know in the past, I had issues in OS2007 when I restored from a backup when the previously configured theme was now not installed. Although I'd have to *strongly* agree with the other posters: non-specific, impolite ranting is not likely to effect change or get help. Cheers, Andrew -- Andrew Flegg -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.bleb.org/ ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: OS2008 Damn ugly!!!
Tuukka Tolvanen wrote: On Dec 27, 2007 3:42 PM, James Knott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is harder to see the details of it. In the terminal program, I used to have green text on black, but while I can set the background to black, I don't see any way to change the text colour. It's always black. It would The text color can be selected in the same place as the other settings affecting the text ...easy to miss if you're just looking to change fg and bg colors, but it's not /that/ far away... 't. As I mentioned in another note, I had found that, so I'm back to my green screen colours. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: OS2008 Damn ugly!!!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMHO all IT OS 2008 themes look better than any of the 2007 ones (which I found a bit garish), but all that's a matter of taste. One of the major changes in the desktop has been incorporating composite effects into it, thus to make it more appealing to the eye. And in my opinion, it looks much better than the previous version, but that is just my personal opinion. At least our team (see hildon-desktop ChangeLog for more details from stage.maemo.org svn) did a lots of work to enable eye-candy composite effects that were thought to be technologically not possible on the platform before. Best Wishes, Karoliina Eye candy that gets in the way of function is not a benefit. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: OS2008 Damn ugly!!!
still not very attractive. For example, I like to use the hand writing input, but the panel is a big mass of black that not only looks bad, but As Eero pointed out, maybe your theme is not what it is for all the others, maybe you have something misconfigured. Please try clean image without restoring a broken backup. is harder to see the details of it. In the terminal program, I used to have green text on black, but while I can set the background to black, I don't see any way to change the text colour. It's always black. It would be nice, if the old styles was available. So you want something that is retro rather than being easy for eyes, like green on black -monitors in the 1970s? BTW, I don't need icons etc., that look like they belong on a child's toy. Hmm. Do you have something against child's toys? And are you saying that you would like to have an user interface where everything would be presented as a tiny text rather than as a visual icon which gives a visual cue about what it is all about? So are you wishing for a command line interface here instead of a graphical user interface? Sounds like you would be. Wishing a hacker-text interface from a commercial product intended for ordinary people that just want to have a mobile internet experience, is something I wouldn't be spending my spare time for, even most open source community people wouldn't probably like such interface on a device of this form factor unless you are into retro-GSM-telephones from the early 1990s. Today it wouldn't fly (IMHO). However, if you want to try, by no means your hands are tied, in the free software World you can start scratchbox now and do your own ultimate user interface e.g. with ncurses if you like and even replace hildon-desktop with it in your own device if you so prefer (it is quite easy task to do even) and if you are totally lucky you might even find some other users for your text-mode interface and it would be no-icons-guaranteed. Best Regards, Karoliina ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: OS2008 Damn ugly!!!
inode0 wrote: On Dec 27, 2007 10:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the major changes in the desktop has been incorporating composite effects into it, thus to make it more appealing to the eye. And in my opinion, it looks much better than the previous version, but that is just my personal opinion. At least our team (see hildon-desktop ChangeLog for more details from stage.maemo.org svn) did a lots of work to enable eye-candy composite effects that were thought to be technologically not possible on the platform before. Karoliina, When I first flashed the new desktop on my N800 I was really taken by surprise. I wasn't prepared for such a dramatic change but it only took a very short time using it for me to quickly grow to like it very much. There are plenty of people out here who appreciate the effort that went into producing this desktop and appreciate the bold change even if it took them by surprise initially. The improvements in the desktop appearance from the original N770 release to the current OS2008 release are quite impressive. I don't have a problem with people wanting it. I have a problem with it being forced on people who don't want it. I would have been nice if a bit of effort had been put into allowing the scroll bar to be moved to the left side, so that left handed people don't have to scroll blind. There's a world of difference between eye candy and functional improvement. Incidentally, a couple of years ago while working in computer support, I had to ask a user to change her desktop colours, to something less irritating (she had pale green and lilac or similar), so that I could work on her computer. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: OS2008 Damn ugly!!!
James Knott wrote: DrFredC.com wrote: James Knott wrote: Now that I've installed OS2008, how do I get it to look acceptable? The current screen, no matter what theme I select is damn ugly and makes me want to go back to OS2007. Is there any way to restore the appearance of OS2007 to replace this crap??? For starters, rather than ranting up a stinkola, you might take things into your own hands and create several background pictures in 400x240 format that looks attractive to you and rotate them into the home page background. In 08OS, many of the home page apps have a partially transparent mode that lets the background bleed thru. After working with it for a while, you might grow fond of the customizable evolution. Also, just because the new home screen is different doesn't make it ugly. Everything is in constant evolution. If you give things a few weeks/months, some other themes may appear. You may or may not like them when they arrive. Given your splatting your extreme negativity all over this list, I'd not expect a lot of warm fuzzy support from developers listening to any of your critiques of their work. It's not the different home screen. It the horrible choice of colors etc. Have you tried the all black hand writing input? Do you think that looks nice? It may not be polite, but crap is crap. The OS2007 looked much nicer. IMHO, I've never had the time to mess around with handwriting input in the various touch screen devices I've had. The stylus, screen keypad, or attached keypad has always worked fine for me. Others, such as yourself, apparently find the black handwriting work fine. OK, no big -- perhaps when I get a window of time, I'll give it a try. As for looks, my first impression of the 2008 home page was, hmm, it's a bit different -- not many options so far -- oh well. Like most, I've adapted to it's little quirks and newness. The color schemes aren't as important to me as improved functionality and I've come to like the option of providing and switching home page backgrounds to my match my mood. Give things some time, and it's likely that more themes may appear that better suit your tastes. Your habit of continuing to call something that is new as ugly in a largely user supported world (who may generally feel differently) isn't likely to help your cause. Some tablet geekoid, finding a few moments to tweek some code for OS08 has lots of choices of things to work on -- I'll spend some time working on restoring some old themes so some AH can call my work ugly for hardly no reason ain't likely to be real high on anyone's list of interesting things to do... The tablets are largely geek user supported devices -- talk nice to folks and you might actually get something close to what you want... Either that, or stop complaining and fix it yourself... then share your work with the rest of us so we can call it ugly... :) BTW, if you really want to experience a new OS that truly sucks, get a copy of Windows Vista. You'll have plenty of company when it comes to openly lamblasting MS's newest perversion of an OS. It's basically the world's largest computer virus -- your next PC comes hopelessly infected right out of the box... How MS get paid for selling that kind of crap is beyond me... It's the best thing that's ever happened to Linux and the Mac. -- Always, Dr Fred C [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: OS2008 Damn ugly!!!
So you want something that is retro rather than being easy for eyes, like green on black -monitors in the 1970s? Console is the easiest way to make a task quickly and without noise. Hmm. Do you have something against child's toys? Almost all users on this list are not children. Personaly, I changed all possible colors on my nokia phone to have something more no eye candy to me. And are you saying that you would like to have an user interface where everything would be presented as a tiny text rather than as a visual icon which gives a visual cue about what it is all about? For the first time. After that you already know. So are you wishing for a command line interface here instead of a graphical user interface? Sounds like you would be. Wishing a hacker-text interface from a commercial product intended for ordinary people that just want to have a mobile internet experience, is something I wouldn't be spending my spare time for, even most open source community people wouldn't probably like This letter was not intended to me, but I saw no reason not to have command line on it. Why not? find some other users for your text-mode interface and it would be no-icons-guaranteed. Poster just said he disliked colors and all that design. This is device for children/people/others and we all do understand that. My usage of 770 is not what nokia had in mind at first. Should I worry. Not a sec. I use command line and will further, whatever nokia thinks about. Zoran ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: OS2008 Damn ugly!!!
Why are we discussing about this issue? There's no doubt that the original author was a trolling. We all know that the new OS2008 looks better than previous releases thanks to the alpha and composite details. Please, what is the basis of the complain? Saying that something is ugly is subjetive and doesn't help to make things better. A link to a screenshot of what you think is ugly is a good start to explain yourself. On Dec 27, 2007 2:51 PM, Piotr Zagorowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would have been nice if... I wish you in New Year to be less ego-centric, scream less, instead do more, and find something that may make you happy. Mate, OS2008 is linux based, if you don't like something - do it yourself or if your knowledge is limited, *ask* nicely and I'm pretty sure someone will make it for you sooner or later. all the best Pit On Dec 27, 2007 4:58 PM, James Knott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: inode0 wrote: On Dec 27, 2007 10:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the major changes in the desktop has been incorporating composite effects into it, thus to make it more appealing to the eye. And in my opinion, it looks much better than the previous version, but that is just my personal opinion. At least our team (see hildon-desktop ChangeLog for more details from stage.maemo.org svn) did a lots of work to enable eye-candy composite effects that were thought to be technologically not possible on the platform before. Karoliina, When I first flashed the new desktop on my N800 I was really taken by surprise. I wasn't prepared for such a dramatic change but it only took a very short time using it for me to quickly grow to like it very much. There are plenty of people out here who appreciate the effort that went into producing this desktop and appreciate the bold change even if it took them by surprise initially. The improvements in the desktop appearance from the original N770 release to the current OS2008 release are quite impressive. I don't have a problem with people wanting it. I have a problem with it being forced on people who don't want it. I would have been nice if a bit of effort had been put into allowing the scroll bar to be moved to the left side, so that left handed people don't have to scroll blind. There's a world of difference between eye candy and functional improvement. Incidentally, a couple of years ago while working in computer support, I had to ask a user to change her desktop colours, to something less irritating (she had pale green and lilac or similar), so that I could work on her computer. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users -- Piotr - ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
RE: OS2008 Damn ugly!!!
Hmm. Do you have something against child's toys? No, I don't and I thing the One Laptop Per Child computer, which looks like something from Fisher-Price, is a great idea for it's target group. On the other hand, the N800 is more likely to be used by adults, often in a business situation, where toys are not appropriate. I am not so sure about the business situation, because to my understanding, Internet tablets are supposed to be fun and for fun. And in here, we have many people who like toys (the difference of children and adults is only in the price tag of the toys) :)... In fact, only you define what is appropriate really in what situation. I would not like to imagine what kind of business situation calls for not having icons and brilliant colors on desktop of an internet tablet. In my opinion, the N810 is very nice looking gadget and I love it, despite having been using it for quite long time at work daily (the fun still haven't faded out). With the new menu, I have to scroll more than with OS2007. Ignoring appearance issues, this one thing makes OS2008 more awkward to use, at least for left handed users. The new menu is intended for thumb use. It is not supposed to be used with stylus, we have made several improvements to improve thumb use, and for example I don't use stylus nowadays in most basic functions, somehow it is more natural to use fingers than stylus on this device, maybe partly because of the keyboard and not having third hand for using stylus. Not everything is thumb-usable, but I would like to encourage you to try it out, it makes some things easier to do. It is always a compromise between being able to use your thumb and seeing maybe a bit less or using stylus to hit small things. There are plusses on both. And by the way, the translucency in home applets is functional if you haven't noticed. Now you can stack applets on top of each other and even see through them (to the bottom applet). I have placed my clock behind other applets. This would have not been possible before. And the translucency effect haven't made the home considerably slower, so I don't think the eye candy comes in front of functionality. Fun gadgets are supposed to give wow-effects, and it is part of the enjoyment of using such things. I personally love all kind of cool looking things and I enjoy using the OS2008 a lot more than previous versions which looked a lot more boring. But whatever, YMMV. Karoliina ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: OS2008 Damn ugly!!!
Alfredo J. Fabretti wrote: Why are we discussing about this issue? There's no doubt that the original author was a trolling. We all know that the new OS2008 looks better than previous releases thanks to the alpha and composite details. No we don't. *I* don't because I haven't seen an N810 yet, and am not likely to unless they go on sale here. I've only just settled down to like my N800 using OS2007, and I read all kinds of unpleasant things about OS2008 being experimental on the N800, so I'm not likely to change yet. But I *am* interested in others' comments, even angry ones, because they help me decide if I want to buy one, or go for something else. Please, what is the basis of the complain? Saying that something is ugly is subjective and doesn't help to make things better. A link to a screenshot of what you think is ugly is a good start to explain yourself. It doesn't matter if it's subjective. It was a visceral complaint, and (as I understand it) based on the shock of finding an interface which was *too* different from the previous one -- an error often made by Marketing people who have insufficient understanding of user interface design. I agree the original post should have been less inflammatory, but I think it was very valuable nevertheless. Particularly if it helps make the designers think harder next time. ///Peter ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: OS2008 Damn ugly!!!
On Dec 26, 2007 6:25 PM, James Knott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that I've installed OS2008, how do I get it to look acceptable? The current screen, no matter what theme I select is damn ugly and makes me want to go back to OS2007. Is there any way to restore the appearance of OS2007 to replace this crap??? Someone worked hard to create the object of your ridicule. What purpose does this sort of rhetoric serve aside from likely hurting the feelings of those who created the new theme? Would it be so hard to say I sort of like the old theme better, is there any way to restore that on OS2008 instead? Just a thought ... John ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: OS2008 Damn ugly!!!
inode0 wrote: On Dec 26, 2007 6:25 PM, James Knott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that I've installed OS2008, how do I get it to look acceptable? The current screen, no matter what theme I select is damn ugly and makes me want to go back to OS2007. Is there any way to restore the appearance of OS2007 to replace this crap??? Someone worked hard to create the object of your ridicule. What purpose does this sort of rhetoric serve aside from likely hurting the feelings of those who created the new theme? Would it be so hard to say I sort of like the old theme better, is there any way to restore that on OS2008 instead? Just a thought ... Some things are so ugly, it's not possible to be polite. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: OS2008 Damn ugly!!!
On Dec 26, 2007 8:07 PM, James Knott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: inode0 wrote: On Dec 26, 2007 6:25 PM, James Knott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that I've installed OS2008, how do I get it to look acceptable? The current screen, no matter what theme I select is damn ugly and makes me want to go back to OS2007. Is there any way to restore the appearance of OS2007 to replace this crap??? Someone worked hard to create the object of your ridicule. What purpose does this sort of rhetoric serve aside from likely hurting the feelings of those who created the new theme? Would it be so hard to say I sort of like the old theme better, is there any way to restore that on OS2008 instead? Just a thought ... Some things are so ugly, it's not possible to be polite. Ugliness is subjective. Politeness is always possible and generally required on a mailing list if you want a positive response. I happen to like the new themes. I also happen to like the idea of making the old theme available in the new OS since consistency is best with users who are unfamiliar with computers and/or get freaked out by change. Perhaps you can look into converting the old one over and sharing it with others who share your aesthetic sense. /Mike ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
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Hi, maybe you could be more specific about what's so damn ugly on OS2008? I like the new look and prefer it over 2007. But if you want the old look back, the Plankton theme might be a good start. It's available for OS2008 in the maemo repository. Cheers, Martin 2007/12/27, Michael Wiktowy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Dec 26, 2007 8:07 PM, James Knott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: inode0 wrote: On Dec 26, 2007 6:25 PM, James Knott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that I've installed OS2008, how do I get it to look acceptable? The current screen, no matter what theme I select is damn ugly and makes me want to go back to OS2007. Is there any way to restore the appearance of OS2007 to replace this crap??? Someone worked hard to create the object of your ridicule. What purpose does this sort of rhetoric serve aside from likely hurting the feelings of those who created the new theme? Would it be so hard to say I sort of like the old theme better, is there any way to restore that on OS2008 instead? Just a thought ... Some things are so ugly, it's not possible to be polite. Ugliness is subjective. Politeness is always possible and generally required on a mailing list if you want a positive response. I happen to like the new themes. I also happen to like the idea of making the old theme available in the new OS since consistency is best with users who are unfamiliar with computers and/or get freaked out by change. Perhaps you can look into converting the old one over and sharing it with others who share your aesthetic sense. /Mike ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: OS2008 Damn ugly!!!
On Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 08:07:03PM -0500, James Knott wrote: Some things are so ugly, it's not possible to be polite. Some people are so impolite, everything they see is ugly. -- hendrik ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
Re: OS2008 Damn ugly!!!
James Knott wrote: Now that I've installed OS2008, how do I get it to look acceptable? The current screen, no matter what theme I select is damn ugly and makes me want to go back to OS2007. Is there any way to restore the appearance of OS2007 to replace this crap??? For starters, rather than ranting up a stinkola, you might take things into your own hands and create several background pictures in 400x240 format that looks attractive to you and rotate them into the home page background. In 08OS, many of the home page apps have a partially transparent mode that lets the background bleed thru. After working with it for a while, you might grow fond of the customizable evolution. Also, just because the new home screen is different doesn't make it ugly. Everything is in constant evolution. If you give things a few weeks/months, some other themes may appear. You may or may not like them when they arrive. Given your splatting your extreme negativity all over this list, I'd not expect a lot of warm fuzzy support from developers listening to any of your critiques of their work. -- Always, Dr Fred C [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
