[Mailman-Users] There are no pending requests when clicking on the link in the mail

2012-10-30 Thread Andreas Nitsche

Hello,

I tried to search some answers for this problem but didn't find anyone.

I'm getting a daily mail which says that there is one mail which needs 
to be moderated. The link I get is


http://lists.mydomain.com/mailman/admindb/orga

When clicking on that link the site says that there are no pending requests.

From other posts I got the hint to have a look at some files, so there is 
heldmsg-orga file within the data directory and even in lists/orga/request.pck 
is a hint to this mail.

I also checked the permissions with check_perms and corrected them after the 
mail was received with check_perms -f.

Can you tell me what's going wrong here?

cheers
Andi

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[Mailman-Users] I did not submit a request to unsubscribe from mailman-users

2012-10-30 Thread Kalbfleisch, Gary

I received three unsubscribe confirmations over night.  I did not initiate 
these. The source IP's resolve to India and Sri Lanka.  Is it just me or is 
this happening to other subscribers?


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Re: [Mailman-Users] I did not submit a request to unsubscribe from mailman-users

2012-10-30 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Kalbfleisch, Gary ga...@shoreline.edu:
 
 I received three unsubscribe confirmations over night.  I did not
 initiate these. The source IP's resolve to India and Sri Lanka.  Is it
 just me or is this happening to other subscribers?

Not to me, but we're also seeing subscription requests that are
reported as spam by the victims at yahoo.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] I did not submit a request to unsubscribe from mailman-users

2012-10-30 Thread Kalbfleisch, Gary

Sounds familiar.  Please see the thread Automated Subscription Bots Inundating 
List Owners With Subscription Requests if you haven't already.


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* Kalbfleisch, Gary ga...@shoreline.edu:
 
 I received three unsubscribe confirmations over night.  I did not 
 initiate these. The source IP's resolve to India and Sri Lanka.  Is it 
 just me or is this happening to other subscribers?

Not to me, but we're also seeing subscription requests that are reported as 
spam by the victims at yahoo.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Automated Subscription Bots Inundating List Owners With Subscription Requests

2012-10-30 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Oct 29, 2012, at 02:14 PM, Lindsay Haisley wrote:

Such an enhancement would obviously not help anyone using a currently
older Mailman package, but going forward, say into MM3, it might be a
good idea to make this information available in some such way.  I use
courier as a MTA, and courier has a courier-config executable
in /usr/bin which spits out all sorts of useful build information,
including the package creator's build-time configure args.

Mailman 3 should be much more FHS friendly out of the box.  Of course, one
important change is that we have actual ini-file configuration and not the
crazy mm_cfg.py stuff.

The ini-file contains a [mailman]layout configuration variable which names a
[paths.*] section from your configuration file.  These sections are used to
locate all the directories Mailman puts things.  By default, it uses the
[paths.dev] layout which puts everything under a local, relative 'var'
directory.  It comes with a [paths.fhs] section so switching to FHS layout
(which of course distro versions of Mailman 3 should do), you would add the
following to your mailman.cfg file:

-snip snip-
[mailman]
layout: fhs
-snip snip-

Here are the values it uses in FHS layout:

[paths.fhs]
# Filesystem Hiearchy Standard 2.3
# http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html
bin_dir: /sbin
var_dir: /var/lib/mailman
queue_dir: /var/spool/mailman
log_dir: /var/log/mailman
lock_dir: /var/lock/mailman
etc_dir: /etc
ext_dir: /etc/mailman.d
pid_file: /var/run/mailman/master.pid

Of course, if you wanted to e.g. put the master.pid file in /run instead of
/var/run, you could do something like this:

-snip snip-
[mailman]
layout: slashrun

[paths.slashrun]
bin_dir: /sbin
var_dir: /var/lib/mailman
queue_dir: /var/spool/mailman
log_dir: /var/log/mailman
lock_dir: /var/lock/mailman
etc_dir: /etc
ext_dir: /etc/mailman.d
pid_file: /run/mailman/master.pid
-snip snip-

Cheers,
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Re: [Mailman-Users] There are no pending requests when clicking on thelink in the mail

2012-10-30 Thread Mark Sapiro
Andreas Nitsche wrote:

I'm getting a daily mail which says that there is one mail which needs 
to be moderated. The link I get is

http://lists.mydomain.com/mailman/admindb/orga

When clicking on that link the site says that there are no pending requests.


See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/EoCE.


 From other posts I got the hint to have a look at some files, so there is 
 heldmsg-orga file within the data directory and even in 
 lists/orga/request.pck is a hint to this mail.


In this case, it seems that whatever web server is at
lists.mydomain.com is invoking the admindb CGI for a different Mailman
than the one whose data/ and lists/ directories you are looking at.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] I did not submit a request to unsubscribe from mailman-users

2012-10-30 Thread Mark Sapiro
Kalbfleisch, Gary wrote:

I received three unsubscribe confirmations over night.  I did not initiate
these. The source IP's resolve to India and Sri Lanka.  Is it just me or is
 this happening to other subscribers?


I get them all the time. More often they originate from email (probably
spam sent to mailman-users-unsubscribe or mailman-users-leave and
spoofing me in the From:). Only web initiated unsubscribes have a
source IP in the confirmation.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailan and postfix config problems

2012-10-30 Thread soportek
On 10/29/2012 12:36 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
 soportek wrote:
 
 [...]

 I know this is postfix related but I am follwing the postfix config
 INSTALL instructions from /var/lib/mailman/bin/postfix-to-mailman.py
 [...]
 First see the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/OIDD.
 
..
 
 postfix_to_mailman.py is a third-party package which is not distributed
 by the GNU Mailman project, nor is it officially supported by the GNU
 Mailman project. It is an alternative to and incompatible with
 delivery to mailman via aliases and virtual alias maps.
 

Ok, so I've reverted my previous changes and now I've followed the exact
instructions from
http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/Integrating+Mailman+with+postfix

I can create new lists as lists.somedomain.org, aliases seem to be
created fine but then no mail is ever sent from the list. I can send a
request to the list and I don't receive a bounce. I don't see any errors
in the mailman o postfix log so I can't tell what is happening.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailan and postfix config problems

2012-10-30 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 10/30/2012 12:34 PM, soportek wrote:
 
 Ok, so I've reverted my previous changes and now I've followed the exact
 instructions from
 http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/Integrating+Mailman+with+postfix


See the notes I just added to the above article.


 I can create new lists as lists.somedomain.org, aliases seem to be
 created fine but then no mail is ever sent from the list. I can send a
 request to the list and I don't receive a bounce. I don't see any errors
 in the mailman o postfix log so I can't tell what is happening.


See the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/A4E9. Look at all Mailman's logs
and queues.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] I did not submit a request to unsubscribe from mailman-users

2012-10-30 Thread Steven Jones
Hi,

We are certainly seeing a lot of subscription attempts in the last 2weeks, as 
if mailman lists are being actively targeted.  Some lists have over 400 
subscription attempts outstanding.

:/

regards

Steven Jones

Technical Specialist - Linux RHCE

Victoria University, Wellington, NZ

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To: Kalbfleisch, Gary; mailman-users@python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] I did not submit a request to unsubscribe from 
mailman-users

Kalbfleisch, Gary wrote:

I received three unsubscribe confirmations over night.  I did not initiate
these. The source IP's resolve to India and Sri Lanka.  Is it just me or is
 this happening to other subscribers?


I get them all the time. More often they originate from email (probably
spam sent to mailman-users-unsubscribe or mailman-users-leave and
spoofing me in the From:). Only web initiated unsubscribes have a
source IP in the confirmation.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Automated Subscription Bots Inundating List Owners With Subscription Requests

2012-10-30 Thread Lindsay Haisley
On Tue, 2012-10-30 at 04:56 +, Kalbfleisch, Gary wrote:
 Don't assume that I don't have the skills.

I don't.  Please accept my apology if you thought that I implied this.

 I have been building the linux os from source since long before most
 people even heard of the Internet.  I manage my time very carefully,
 and mailman is a very small part of what I do.  The newest version of
 mailman does not resolve any of the issues that I have  been
 expiriencing if you have read my posts.

Yes, I have been following the thread.  An update to a newer version of
MM would allow you to bulk-delete spurious subscription requests - a
small advantage, to be sure, but a time-saver over versions which didn't
offer this administrative feature.

 I have implemented the security measures required using other means
 until such a time that they are resolved in mailman.

FWIW, I've had very good results using SpamAssassin as a pre-filter for
Mailman, using James Henstridge's package (patched for post MM versions
= 2.1.10).  See:

http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030589
http://www.jamesh.id.au/articles/mailman-spamassassin/

This filter also blocks a lot of spurious subscription attempts,
according to my list hosting customers, who have told me that the filter
has substantially reduced the amount of administrative spam they have to
deal with (compared to when the filter has not been in place) and
haven't mentioned a problem with false positives.

I know this filter is quite old, but with the patch for more recent MM
versions (wiki.list.org) it seems to work quite well.

Servers here also block email at the front door based on the CBL
advisory list, which probably also helps.

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[Mailman-Users] list of subcriber diggest

2012-10-30 Thread Jesus Rivas

Hi,

there are any way to get list of subscriber digests?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] list of subcriber diggest

2012-10-30 Thread Mark Sapiro
Jesus Rivas wrote:

there are any way to get list of subscriber digests?


If you mean a list of only those subscribers who are subsccribed in
digest mode, see the FAQ at http://wiki.list.org/x/aYA9.

Both list_members and the script at
http://www.msapiro.net/mailman-subscribers.py have digest only
options. Also, the 'roster' page separates subscribers by
digest/non-digest.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] I did not submit a request to unsubscribe from mailman-users

2012-10-30 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Steven Jones steven.jo...@vuw.ac.nz:
 Hi,
 
 We are certainly seeing a lot of subscription attempts in the last 2weeks, as 
 if mailman lists are being actively targeted.  Some lists have over 400 
 subscription attempts outstanding.

Is there a simple way of seeing which lists still have outstanding
requests?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] I did not submit a request to unsubscribe from mailman-users

2012-10-30 Thread Kirke Johnson
That appears at the bottom when you run the Mailman Daily Status
Report using the mmdsr script. See
http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=4030678 .

Kirke Johnson   Internet: kjohn...@pcc.edu
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On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Ralf Hildebrandt
ralf.hildebra...@charite.de wrote:
 * Steven Jones steven.jo...@vuw.ac.nz:
 Hi,

 We are certainly seeing a lot of subscription attempts in the last 2weeks, 
 as if mailman lists are being actively targeted.  Some lists have over 400 
 subscription attempts outstanding.

 Is there a simple way of seeing which lists still have outstanding
 requests?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] I did not submit a request to unsubscribe frommailman-users

2012-10-30 Thread Mark Sapiro
Kirke Johnson wrote:

That appears at the bottom when you run the Mailman Daily Status
Report using the mmdsr script. See
http://wiki.list.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=3D4030678 .


In reply to:

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Ralf Hildebrandt
ralf.hildebra...@charite.de wrote:

 Is there a simple way of seeing which lists still have outstanding
 requests?


The mmdsr report only shows and sumarises the held message files in
Mailman's data/ directory. It also doesn't do all of them if the list
is long.

See http://www.msapiro.net/scripts/list_requests for a script that
lists all the outstanding held message, subscription and
unsubscription requests by list and type.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailan and postfix config problems

2012-10-30 Thread soportek
On 10/30/2012 02:06 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
 On 10/30/2012 12:34 PM, soportek wrote:

 Ok, so I've reverted my previous changes and now I've followed the exact
 instructions from
 http://wiki.list.org/display/DOC/Integrating+Mailman+with+postfix
Ok, so now I first undid specific changes from the wiki tutorial,
removed entries from and postmapped /etc/postfix/transport and removed
mailman entry from /etc/postfix/master.cf

Now I've followed these 2 guides.
http://www.list.org/mailman-install/postfix-integration.html
http://www.list.org/mailman-install/postfix-virtual.html

relevant parts of my mailman mm_cfg.py look like this
  MTA = 'Postfix'
  DEB_LISTMASTER = 'postmas...@somedomain.org'
  POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAIN = ['lists.somedomain.org']

and the relevant parts of my postfix main.cf look like this

  local_recipient_maps   = $alias_maps, proxy:unix:passwd.byname
  alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases, hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases
  alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases
  virtual_alias_domains = lists.somedomain.org
  virtual_alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/virtual,
hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman
  relay_domains = localhost

If I create a new list in the lists.somedomain.org domain I receive
confirmation from the list but writing to the list results in 
Recipient address rejected from postfix.

/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases is being written but
/var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman is not being updated by Mailman.

bin/check_perms returns no problems.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] mailan and postfix config problems

2012-10-30 Thread Mark Sapiro
soportek wrote:

relevant parts of my mailman mm_cfg.py look like this
  MTA = 'Postfix'
  DEB_LISTMASTER = 'postmas...@somedomain.org'
  POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAIN = ['lists.somedomain.org']

That should be

POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['lists.somedomain.org']


and the relevant parts of my postfix main.cf look like this

  local_recipient_maps   = $alias_maps, proxy:unix:passwd.byname
  alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases, hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases
  alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases
  virtual_alias_domains = lists.somedomain.org
  virtual_alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/virtual,
hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman
  relay_domains = localhost

If I create a new list in the lists.somedomain.org domain I receive
confirmation from the list but writing to the list results in 
Recipient address rejected from postfix.


What is the exact Postfix log message?


/var/lib/mailman/data/aliases is being written but
/var/lib/mailman/data/virtual-mailman is not being updated by Mailman.


Which is probably the entire issue and is because
POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS is misspelled.

On the other hand, what are your Defaults.py/mm_cfg.py settings for
DEFAULT_URL_HOST and DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST and if these are set in
mm_cfg.py, are the settings followed by

add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST)

and have you run fix_url?

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