Re: [Mailman-Users] Moving existing server to new domain name and newIP another question - broken link
Hello, On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 17:58, Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.net wrote: You have a few choices. 1) Assuming the archives/private/LISTNAME.mbox/LISTNAME.mbox files are present and complete, rebuild the archives with bin/arch --wipe LISTNAME 2) Edit the HTML files by hand or with a script 3) Live with it. There is one more option. Assuming you still control the old domain, you can rewrite the links in .htaccess file. But only if the domain is still yours. -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.slowo.pl www.fairtrade.net.pl -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Dear name field
Hi, You can enable personalization for the list. If you don't see the 'personalize' settings on the Non-digest options list admin page, you or your provider need to enable it by putting OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION = Yes in mm_cfg.py. Then you can put something like Dear %(user_name)s, But there is one more issue here, I think. Not every uses signs up by entering their name. I am not sure but you will probably get Dear , in that case. Also, sometimes users put nicknames like I hate you and the like stuff. You can easily imagine the effect here. ;) So in other words, if you cannot make sure all users have names in Mailman database, it may not be worth it. -- Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Mailing lists information page / charset problem
Hello, What do I need to do to make sure that the information page listing all public lists available at a given server displays characters without any problem? As it happens I have two lists in Polish and three in English. One of the Polish lists uses accented characters in its description and the characters are mangled when viewed at the information page. Thanks for all hints! -- Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Customizing Subscription request confirmed page
Hello, 2008/9/30 Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: I have just noticed that there is one more page that needs changing if I want to keep the layout consistent - Subscription request confirmed page. I guess the question is basically the same. How do I hack it? If you're talking about something like adding a style sheet, see the thread beginning at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2008-August/062979.html. If you want to actually change the HTML of the page body, you have to change the code that builds the pages in Mailman/Cgi/confirm.py. Thank you Mark! I did remember your previous reply. I guess my question really is if some day all such pages could be customized by user. Otherwise, it is not possible to provide coherent layout across mailman pages. Thanks! -- Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Customizing Confirm subscription request page?
Dear all, Is there a way to customize the layout of Confirm subscription request page? Once can customize General subscription page, confirmation page which appears after you press subscribe and the options page. However, it does seem that Confirm subscription request page is somewho built on the fly. What do I need to do to make sure it receives similar layout/formatting than the rest of the pages? Many, many thanks in advance! -- Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] Customizing Subscription request confirmed page
Hello, I have just noticed that there is one more page that needs changing if I want to keep the layout consistent - Subscription request confirmed page. I guess the question is basically the same. How do I hack it? -- Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Multi list management ..
Hi Khalil Abbas: Dear Mark, it's a religious list and each subscriber invites all his friends to subscribe, each one subscriber can make up to 100 people subscribe and that's the beauty of it.. besides, I only send a single line of religious quote not a huge article which make it popular to people .. Your policy still seems very strange. So if I join your list, I can send you up to 100 emails of my friends and you will just add them to your list? -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.LCWords.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] many problems
Hi Jaione, Jaione Arrieta: Hi I have a mailing list, I´m the administrator that is I´m a user and have no idea of programming, and I used to have the same mailing list in mailman but with an older version and worked just fine and I was very happy with it but had to change servers and my hosting service upload the version available a month ago which is the version 2.1.9.cp2 and I´m having many problems with this version _postings take very long time to arrived if they do, because some postings arrive to some members and others to other members and some they don´t arrive to anybody even if they get to the archive, and if there is an important subject to discuss there´s no way to make it interesting cause many people don´t get the messages, and even if they send a message it doesn´t arrive to many people, an I need the mailing list to be fast an active as it was before and I´m having lot´s of complains... _all of the sudden all the memebers for example the m members get unsuscribe at the same time and I put them back and then all the members that start with p get unsuscribe at the same time and I don´t have time to check all the time all the members usually I have to do it two or three times a day I´m really not very happy with this version, is there a way to go back to an older version ? or what can I do to make it work just fine with no problems? I am sure others will have better ideas but it seems to me you may want to use a different provider which offers good mailman support so that you do not have to worry about underlying details - i.e. it is their responsibility to make mailman work as expected. If you check the archives, you will be able to find people on this list who offer such services. -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.LCWords.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] want to slow down the post of server
Hi, Burcu İnci: hi, i have a list about 36000 member in same domain.when i want to post an email and approve it there is not any problem in mailman server and gateways. but when it start to delivered to my sendmail server,my server load incresase so much and it stop to work properly. what can i do for this problem,i think about to slow down mailman's post, will it work? Have you tried setting SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION in mm_cfg.py and restarting Mailman? Reading Defaults.py is highly recommended as it contains a wealth of settings to tweak Mailman. Thanks! -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.LCWords.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] stopping a message post in progress?
Hello, Mark Sapiro pisze: How do you catch this? If you've received the post from the list, it is very likely that by the time you are able to react, Mailman will have completed its delivery to the MTA. Yes, Mark is right. This reminds me about China Olympics where the tv broadcast is said to have delays of about 20 seconds. Maybe, this is an option for the future - custom defned delays per list (delays between a message is received by Mailman and passed on to MTA)? I can hardly imagine this is useful unless someone watches over a list all the time or the delay is really big (like 8 hours or so)? But with too big a delay, poster is likely to resubmit... :) Thansk! ZS -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] changing Mailman layout
Hello,
Mark Sapiro:
Zbigniew Szalbot wrote:
What something like that work or do I need to learn python? :)
output.append('META http-equiv=Content-Type '
'content=text/html; charset=%s' % charset)
output.append('META http-equiv=Content-Type '
'content=text/html; charset=%s' % charset
\n 'link rel=stylesheet href=domain.tld/stylesheet.css
type=text/css')
Learning Python is always worthwhile :)
The above replacement won't work for a few technical reasons. Do it
this way:
output.append('META http-equiv=Content-Type '
'content=text/html; charset=%s' % charset)
output.append('link rel=stylesheet '
'href=domain.tld/stylesheet.css type=text/css')
Thanks! I ran into another problem. I modified the general list
information page for one of the lists.
I edited it from the command line to include a style sheet in it (to
test before I do it site-wide). This cannot be done via GUI. Anyway, as
long as the link to a stylesheet is a full URL, all is fine. When it is
a relative link (like css/stylesheet.css) or full directory path
(/path/to/mailman/lists/en/css/stylesheet.css) it does not work either.
Can be files referenced from directories and not by full URLs?
Thanks!
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Re: [Mailman-Users] login
CK pisze: Hi Sbigniew, I got your email from the list. Can I ask you a question concerning this alert I got on my website ? I am afraid it is a little bit stupid. I can not access my administration page. When I try to log in, it say : Bug in Mailman version 2.1.5 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs. Do you may be know where I can find the Mailman error logs on my PC or my traceback ? My english is not so good, so I hope you understand me. Did you ever met that pb yourself ? I am certainly not an expert here. To find out location of your mailman try whereis mailman command. On FreeBSD which I am a happy user of, mailman is installed in /usr/local/mailman/ and the logs would be in /usr/local/mailman/logs/ Of special interest will /path/to/mailman/logs/error log. Maybe this is some sort of permission problem but I am sure others will be able to contribute much more. And I do not know who pb is :) Thanks! Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] changing Mailman layout
Mark Sapiro pisze: First of all, if you think you're saving anything by including a relative or absolute path as the href= value of the stylesheet link as opposed to a URL, you are not. If you have for example in your template that becomes http://www.example.com/mailman/listinfo/list, something like link rel=stylesheet type=text/css href=css/stylesheet.css that gets sent to the browser just as is, and the browser considers that as relative to the base URL and does an HTTP GET of path /mailman/listinfo/css/stylesheet.css from www.example.com to get the style sheet. The two points are: - it is no different in terms of HTTP interaction from the case of putting an absolute URL in the href=, and - in this example at least, it doesn't work because the web server has a ScriptAlias for /mailman/ so the web server processes this request by invoking Mailman's listinfo cgi wrapper which isn't going to serve the stylesheet. You probably can specify a full directory path to the css, but the web server will still look for it relative to the servers document root, and it isn't really any different from specifying it as a URL. All this is true and I well realize that. The example with css is simple. No problem. I actually have a problem with a javascript file that the layoput designer has used. I am suspecting it won't display because I have to use a complete URL instead of a relative one as often is a case with javascripts. Maybe the same principle applies. If anyone knows, I'd be happy if you drop me a line! Thanks! Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] changing Mailman layout
Mark Sapiro pisze: OTOH, a reference to some/javascript is not going to work because http://www.example.com/mailman/listinfo/some/javascript is not going to serve the javascript; it's going to attempt to serve the listinfo page for the list named some. Thank you Mark - do I read it correctly that javascript files won't work and the only thing to do is get rid of it and define graphics in the css style sheet? Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] changing Mailman layout
Hi all,
The best way to add css or similar things to these pages is to modify
the Format() method of the Document() class in Mailman/htmlformat.py.
What something like that work or do I need to learn python? :)
output.append('META http-equiv=Content-Type '
'content=text/html; charset=%s' % charset)
output.append('META http-equiv=Content-Type '
'content=text/html; charset=%s' % charset
\n 'link rel=stylesheet href=domain.tld/stylesheet.css
type=text/css')
Many thanks for further ideas!
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Re: [Mailman-Users] changes at aol
Hi there, Larry Stone: Why even receive them at that point? They're little more than spam themselves so maybe it's time to ban all mail from AOL as AOL will then be a known spammer. :-( Because you can always claim you treat their reports seriously. ;) Actually, when lists are personalized you can always use Message-ID to look up your nice AOL citizen. That't what I do as I use full personalization option. Yours, -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.LCWords.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] changing Mailman layout
Dear all, Where do I look to change Mailman layout (I know where to change individual lists) but not sure where are files for domian.tld/mailman/listinfo located. I'd like to customize Mailman to look more like our organization's website. Many thanks in advance! -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.LCWords.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature Request: Selective Mass Subscription
Hi there, Stephen J. Turnbull: This is a market to gain for Mailman but it currently lacks a few features to do that. Well, my post is slowly getting off topic But IMO it would be quite on-topic for mailman-developers. This kind of post would be more effective in inciting dev activity if more focused. Eg, rather than talking about markets to gain, which sounds good but generally doesn't attract a lot of dev effort, talk about specific tasks and their needs, and the specific features that could be extended or added to satisfy them. Remember, AIUI at least, the devs have little experience with these usages so concrete details of requirements would be very helpful. You're absolutely right, but given that I cannot really sponsor new Mailman features I felt not quite an appropriate person to suggest them. I am trying to give some of my time to handle Polish translation of Mailman but this is about all I can give to this project. If there's a space to do so and people willing to discuss what it would take to make Mailman more marketing-wise friendly tool, I'd be happy to contribute. :) Kind regards, -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.LCWords.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Feature Request: Selective Mass Subscription
Hi all, I have to disagree. Anything that can be done with the Mailman mass subscribe feature can be done just as effectively with a contact list on Gmail, in theory.[1] It's other aspects of Gmail policy that (so far at least) make that a small enough problem that I've never considered filtering on ^(From|Sender):[EMAIL PROTECTED]. Quite a long thread but important issues on their own. Let me just make one point. I think that we're really talking about two contexts: 1/ Mailman as a discussion list - like the one we're having here. I don't imagine spammers would be setting up their lists as discussion list, would they? I don't actually imagine big time spammers using mailman. They're all about botnets. 2/ Mailman as a newsletter/announcement list. I can't sponsor the developers (sad but true) but I'd love to see Mailman giving me an option to create either discussion or announcement list with pre-set features for each of them. One of these pre-sets could be in fact the presence or absence of mass-subscribe feature defined per list during list creation. If I don't really know the people I am giving a list to administer, I would be tempted, especially with an announcement list, to turn off mass subscribe feature. Mailman is getting better and better no doubt about it. However, if I understand the current trends, discussion lists are dropped in favour of online forums and newsletter/marketing tools are more and more sought after. This is a market to gain for Mailman but it currently lacks a few features to do that. Well, my post is slowly getting off topic so I will just wrap it up by thanking the developers for a very good software I am able to use! Regards, -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.LCWords.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Export list of subscribers?
Hi there, Bill Honneus (honneus): Hi, Is there a way to export the current list of subscribers of a mailing list to a text file, either through the web administrator interface or through a command line option? Command line will work best. Take a look at bin/list_members HTH -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.LCWords.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Size attachment limit on messages sent to maillist
Hello, Jul 4 14:50:26 abc postfix/cleanup[3205]: ECAE21643BF: message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jul 4 14:50:27 abc postfix/smtpd[2816]: warning: ECAE21643BF: queue file size limit exceeded The message is quite clear. Fix the problem in Postfix by increasing the max message size. -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.LCWords.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Re: [Mailman-Users] Size attachment limit on messages sent to maillist
Hello, Maickel Pandie: How can I do that... What file Should I edit?? http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html message_size_limit (default: 1024) You set it in main.cf. 2008/7/4, Zbigniew Szalbot [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, Jul 4 14:50:26 abc postfix/cleanup[3205]: ECAE21643BF: message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jul 4 14:50:27 abc postfix/smtpd[2816]: warning: ECAE21643BF: queue file size limit exceeded The message is quite clear. Fix the problem in Postfix by increasing the max message size. -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.LCWords.com -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.LCWords.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
[Mailman-Users] errors after hd crash
Hello, We have had a HD crash and I had to bring the data back from a backup. I fixed permissions, etc and it should work well now but on the website I get Bug in Mailman version 2.1.10 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs. and in error logs I can see this: Jun 19 11:05:01 2008 gate_news(30949): Traceback (most recent call last): Jun 19 11:05:01 2008 gate_news(30949): File /usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 284, in module Jun 19 11:05:01 2008 gate_news(30949): main() Jun 19 11:05:01 2008 gate_news(30949): File /usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 264, in main Jun 19 11:05:01 2008 gate_news(30949): process_lists(lock) Jun 19 11:05:01 2008 gate_news(30949): File /usr/local/mailman/cron/gate_news, line 199, in process_lists Jun 19 11:05:01 2008 gate_news(30949): mlist = MailList.MailList(listname, lock=0) Jun 19 11:05:01 2008 gate_news(30949): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 130, in __init__ Jun 19 11:05:01 2008 gate_news(30949): self.Load() Jun 19 11:05:01 2008 gate_news(30949): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 668, in Load Jun 19 11:05:01 2008 gate_news(30949): self.CheckVersion(dict) Jun 19 11:05:01 2008 gate_news(30949): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 707, in CheckVersion Jun 19 11:05:01 2008 gate_news(30949): if self.data_version = mm_cfg.DATA_FILE_VERSION: Jun 19 11:05:01 2008 gate_news(30949): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 146, in __getattr__ Jun 19 11:05:01 2008 gate_news(30949): raise AttributeError, name Jun 19 11:05:01 2008 gate_news(30949): AttributeError : data_version Many thanks for helping me to determine the cause of this! Regards, Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] full personalization and CC field
Hello, Mark Sapiro: The only way to not have the list address in a Cc: is to make the list anonymous or set reply_goes_to_list to This List. Otherwise the Cc: to the list is put there intentionally to facilitate replying to the list (via reply-all) since the list address will not be in the normal From:, To: or Reply-To: If you don't want this, you'd have to modify Mailman/Handlers/CookHeaders.py. Thank you Mark! I edited this file and - since I am no programmer - I just commented out lines 161, 162, 165-172 and restarted mailman. Initial tests show that the CC header does not get added. I put it on my journal to watch for this file when I update mailman in future. Thank you for your support! -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.lc-words.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] full personalization and CC field
Hello, When full personalization is enabled a message sent to the list is delivered to members with TO field containing a member's address and the CC field containing the list address. Is there a setting to take off the CC address in case of full personalization (that is to only have the TO field present)? Many thanks! -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.lc-words.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] misleading description
Hello, This message only appears for a non-member if the roster is non-public (available only to the admin or to list members). With a public roster, the message is 'No such member: [EMAIL PROTECTED]'. Ah, I see. In today's world an option for members to see other members' addresses sounds dangerous and may even be such. But I see now why this happens. Granted the message could be changed from The confirmation email has been sent. to something like The confirmation email has been sent if [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a list member. Do you think this would help? Yes, it would be a lot more informative. Maybe in future it would be better to just disallow anyone to view a member's list and give a clear indication whether email has or has not been sent. If the unsubscribe script cannot be exploited remotely, then I do not see probing as a real threat (especially if additionally secured by some captcha code or the like). But then I may not see all the consequences of such solution. Anyway, thanks for Mailman! -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.lc-words.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] misleading description
Hi all, I wonder if it is possible to change a description which appears on options page when you try to unsubscribe. Suppose you enter your email address at the general list information page. Then the options page gets displayed and you click the Unsubscribe button. There appears a message: The confirmation email has been sent. This is all right if you entered the right email address. But if by mistake you have entered an email address you are not subscribed with, the page still claims that a confirmation email has been sent but in fact it hasn't. I have run into this problem recently. I have pressed the Unsubscribe button a few times and waited for the confirmation email. However, it has never arrived. Only later did I realize I was trying to unsubscribe with a wrong email address. I think a message like No such address in our database would be a lot more helpful. Do you think this could be changed? Thanks! -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.lc-words.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'lower'
Hello, Mark Sapiro pisze: Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: I have installed mailman 2.1.9.5 and now upgraded to 2.1.10 and see the following in mailman's error log. Barry - sorry to have misinformed. I meant 2.1.9_5. Installed from ports on FreeBSD 7.0-Release. A description of this issue along with the patch to fix it is at http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2008-April/061381.html, http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-announce/2008-April/000111.html, and http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-developers/2008-April/020162.html. This is the major reason that there will be a 'patch' release soon. Thank you Mark - this has solved the issue! -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.lc-words.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Turning off digests
Hello, I have a question about digests. I do not need them for the types of mailing lists we use, so I was glad to see an option to switch them off. I set DEFAULT_DIGESTABLE = No in mm_cfg.py and then restarted mailman. However, it has no effect on existing lists. Is that so that the setting is effective only for lists created from now on (and not on the existing ones)? Thanks! -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.lc-words.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Turning off digests
Hello, Mark Sapiro pisze: Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: I have a question about digests. I do not need them for the types of mailing lists we use, so I was glad to see an option to switch them off. I set DEFAULT_DIGESTABLE = No in mm_cfg.py and then restarted mailman. However, it has no effect on existing lists. Is that so that the setting is effective only for lists created from now on (and not on the existing ones)? That is correct. The setting for existing lists is 'digestable' on the Digest options page. If you want to set digestable to No for all existing lists, you could run something like #! /bin/bash cd /path/to/mailman temp=`mktemp` echo digestable = 0 $temp for list in `bin/list_lists --bare` ; do bin/config_list -i $temp $list echo --- digest members in $list --- bin/list_members --digest done rm $temp I did run it but I get List name is required --- digest members in general.test --- List all the members of a mailing list. Usage: bin/list_members [options] listname Where: --output file -o file Write output to specified file instead of standard out. snip Should I change: for list in `bin/list_lists --bare` ; do into: for list in `bin/list_lists --LIST_NAME` ; do Or how do I supply the list of lists? Many thanks! -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.lc-words.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Turning off digests
Hello, Mark Sapiro pisze: My mistake. line 8 (of 10) in the above script should be bin/list_members --digest $list Thanks for the script. It seems to list the lists correctly, although similar error appears. I restarted Mailman but when I try to subscribe I still see the option Receive digests? on web subscription page. Thanks! -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.lc-words.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Turning off digests
Hello, Mark Sapiro pisze: I restarted Mailman but when I try to subscribe I still see the option Receive digests? on web subscription page. What do you see as the setting for 'digestable' on the list's Digest options page? Mark - apologies! I have not realized this will create another option on the Digest options page. Everything is OK now. Thank you so much for your help! -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.lc-words.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Turning off digests
Dear Marc, Nothing you did created that option. That option was always there. The purpose of the script was to set the option to No for all lists so you wouldn't have to do it manually for each list via the web. If that didn't happen, there was something wrong with the script or the way it was run. Now I am even more ashamed... I am sorry to have created so much list traffic when the option was already there. Somehow I overlooked it because I never needed to configure digest options... Thanks again! -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.lc-words.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] subscription request sent twice
Hello, Sorry for yet another post. I have been googling to find an answer but have not been successful. It seems that on my new server Mailman will sent each subscription request twice. Regular posts, information that someone is already on list are not sent twice. Only subscription requests. For example, these are the two I got while testing: confirm 0be9992ac451e22a969a29bbc5f7c5a4d2a9c30d confirm 3a90201f480e72b58bc804f650f67a84a18bc284 and Mailman's subscribe log shows: Apr 26 10:53:54 2008 (76585) eu.ppl: pending Zbigniew Szalbot [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 26 10:53:54 2008 (76585) eu.ppl: pending Zbigniew Szalbot [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have analized MTA's logs and they have really been sent twice as separate messages although I requested subscription only once. I am not blaming Mailman. I feel that there must be something wrong with my setup that this happens. I'll appreciate if someone has had the same experience and can suggest where to start troubleshooting it. Thanks! -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.lc-words.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] subscription request sent twice
Hi there, Mark Sapiro pisze: I have analized MTA's logs and they have really been sent twice as separate messages although I requested subscription only once. How did you request subscription? Did you send an email to eu.ppl-request, and if so, did it contain two subscribe commands, one in the subject and one in the body? Time to call it a day! Did the previous version of Mailman (2.1.9_x) only checked body for subscription commands? The fact of the matter is that indeed I had the word subscribe in both the message subject as well as in body... Anyway, thanks for your incredible support Mark! -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.lc-words.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'lower'
Hello,
I have installed mailman 2.1.9.5 and now upgraded to 2.1.10 and see the
following in mailman's error log.
Apr 25 20:02:49 2008 (24138) SHUNTING:
1209146569.0795979+80ec39567f7efbc1306687a6c84ed28bfccfc400
Apr 25 20:04:36 2008 (24138) Uncaught runner exception: 'NoneType'
object has no attribute 'lower'
Apr 25 20:04:36 2008 (24138) Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 114, in _oneloop
self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 185, in _onefile
keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/CommandRunner.py, line 241,
in _dispose
res.do_command('join')
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/CommandRunner.py, line 139,
in do_command
return handler.process(self, args)
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Commands/cmd_subscribe.py, line 74,
in process
if digest is None and password.lower() in ('digest', 'nodigest'):
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'lower'
I will appreciate if you could help me deal with it. Thank you!
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[Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.10 and FreeBSD port
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[Mailman-Users] sync_members script
Hello, Just wanted to ask how you manage the following situation: There is a list of people you keep in an sql database. This database is edited/updated daily. From time to time you want to contact these people, so you export them as a flat file and import into Mailman (for example by using sync_members script). You do the mailing and some addresses are removed from Mailman. When you next time sync members from you sql database with Mailman, the sync_members script will add the previously removed members again, won't it (as they will not exist in mailman but will be in a flat file exported from sql database)? How do you handle this situation? When you get information about Mailman-unsubscribed emails, do you remove them then from your sql database? Is there any other way round it? Thanks! Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] sync_members script
Hi, On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 09:29:57 -0700, Dragon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: Hello, Just wanted to ask how you manage the following situation: There is a list of people you keep in an sql database. This database is edited/updated daily. From time to time you want to contact these people, so you export them as a flat file and import into Mailman (for example by using sync_members script). You do the mailing and some addresses are removed from Mailman. When you next time sync members from you sql database with Mailman, the sync_members script will add the previously removed members again, won't it (as they will not exist in mailman but will be in a flat file exported from sql database)? How do you handle this situation? When you get information about Mailman-unsubscribed emails, do you remove them then from your sql database? Is there any other way round it? Thanks! Zbigniew Szalbot End original message. - If you are running a responsible opt-in mailing list, I think it is your responsibility to make sure that the unsubscribes are propagated back into your SQL database. Absolutely - I was just hoping I wouldn't have to do it by hand... Sure if I had the unsubscribed addresses in a flat file, it would be easy to run an sql query to remove them from the sql database. I am just not thrilled about opening each unsbuscribed message and copying the email address into a file. Thanks! Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] sync_members script
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from 77-254-86-54.adsl.inetia.pl [77.254.86.54] with HTTP/1.1 (POST); Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:18:25 +0200 User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello, On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 09:54:36 -0700, Dragon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you handle this situation? When you get information about Mailman-unsubscribed emails, do you remove them then from your sql database? Is there any other way round it? Absolutely - I was just hoping I wouldn't have to do it by hand... Sure if I had the unsubscribed addresses in a flat file, it would be easy to run an sql query to remove them from the sql database. I am just not thrilled about opening each unsbuscribed message and copying the email address into a file. Why do it manually? Mailman lets you send unsubscribe notices to the list owner. You could add another address to the list owner setting that would receive the e-mails and then pipe them to a script to extract the data automatically. Ashamed to ask but since I am no programmer, would anyone have such a script? Many thanks in advance! Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] syncing recipients from an sql database / managing bounces
Hello, We have an sql database of users who we would like to contact from time to time. So far we have been doing it outside of mailman realm. I would like to sync the sql user database to a mailing list and then send them a newsletter. The primary reason for this is that manual bounce management is quite a tedious process. Is there a way to sync the database in such a way as to only update records rather than delete all users from mailman and import them from scratch? And what if a given record has been deleted in the sql database? Will it also be deleted from mailman user database upon importing/syncing? Many thanks! -- Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman discarding messages
Hello Mark and others!
2008/3/25, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Zbigniew Szalbot
Is there anything else I can check? I am about to delete the members
as this was time-limited subscription but we wanted to send a final
thank you message to them and frustrating as it is, we can't do that.
You can edit Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py as follows:
Find the code in the do_pipeline() method that says
except Errors.DiscardMessage:
# Throw the message away; we need do nothing else with
it.
syslog('vette', 'Message discarded, msgid: %s',
msg.get('message-id', 'n/a'))
return 0
and change it to
except Errors.DiscardMessage:
# Throw the message away; we need do nothing else with
it.
syslog('vette', 'Message discarded by %s, msgid: %s',
handler, msg.get('message-id', 'n/a'))
return 0
and then restart Mailman.
Thanks a lot!
Mar 26 09:20:52 2008 (90638) easter post from email_address held,
message-id=[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Post to moderated list
I think the main difference now is that I have removed all the 700
subscribers to the list (as the mailing is over) and added two test
addresses. If this happens again, your patch will make it easier for
me to spot the problem. For the time being thank you very much!
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman discarding messages
Hello again, I forgot one - post from non-member and generic_nonmember_action is Discard. Yes, post is from non-member and generic_nonmember_action is Hold. There is no additional debugging without actually patching the code, but you could set forward_auto_discards to Yes (or maybe it is Already set but I am not informed of a discard action I just see it in the vette log. already). If forward_auto_discards is Yes, the owner will get an Auto-discard notification if and only if the message is discarded because of discard_these_nonmembers or generic_nonmember_action, so that might help narrow it down. Is there anything else I can check? I am about to delete the members as this was time-limited subscription but we wanted to send a final thank you message to them and frustrating as it is, we can't do that. Thank you! -- Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman discarding messages
Hello, 2008/3/24, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: I am looking for help. One of my mailman lists suddenly started discarding messages sent to it. Here are the ways a message can get discarded. Post matches KNOWN_SPAMMERS in Defaults.py/mm_cfg.py. Nothing set in either file. Post matches header_filter_rules with a discard action. header_filter_rules are set to defer. Post from a moderated member if member_moderation_action is discard. This user has been removed. Post from a non member in discard_these_nonmembers. Non-member yes but nothing in discard_these_nonmembers Post with all content removed by content filtering. No content filtering in place (set to No) Post is a text/html message, scrub_nondigest is Yes and ARCHIVE_HTML_SANITIZER = 0 in Defaults.py/mm_cfg.py. scrub_nondigest is set to No. It's one of the above. It seems it is not one of the above. Is there a way to turn on more debugging? Thank you Mark! -- Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Full personalization and HTML problems
Hello, I am being told by some subscribers that the HTML emails they receive via a list run by Mailman contain attachments, although the original emails have none. In message body they only have their email address and attached they have a file called ATT00351.htm and two inline images which were part of the email. So if they want to see the content, they need to open the html attachment. I have now switched to no personalization at all but I am not sure this will be enough. As for other settings, I do not have anything added by Mailmain in footers. Scrub attachments of regular delivery message? is set to No. What can I do to make sure, the email is presented as is without being put into attachments? They claim to be using Outlook. As a matter of fact I also use Outlook at work and do not have such a problem. Thank you! -- Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Full personalization and HTML problems
Hello, 2008/3/17, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: I am being told by some subscribers that the HTML emails they receive via a list run by Mailman contain attachments, although the original emails have none. In message body they only have their email address and attached they have a file called ATT00351.htm and two inline images which were part of the email. So if they want to see the content, they need to open the html attachment. Something is adding a mime part to the front of the message. This could be a Mailman msg_header (if msg_header is 'empty', make sure it is really empty and not just 'blank'), or it could be something (like a disclaimer) added by any MTA/MDA the message passed through on the way to the recipient. I have now switched to no personalization at all but I am not sure this will be enough. As for other settings, I do not have anything added by Mailmain in footers. Scrub attachments of regular delivery message? is set to No. Personalization is not doing it unless it is triggering something outside of Mailman which is unlikely. msg_header it the only Mailman setting which will do this in Mailman. I did have %(user_address)s in full personalization which I now changed to no personalization and removed the string. I hope this helps. Thanks! -- Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Full personalization and HTML problems
Hello, 2008/3/17, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: I did have %(user_address)s in full personalization which I now changed to no personalization and removed the string. I hope this helps. Thanks! If you had a msg_header and removed it, that will help. The fact that the header had personalized information is not relevant to this issue. Also, with Full Personalization, it would seem there is no need to put %(user_address)s in msg_header as the address is already in the To: header of the message. Not sure why I have always thought that %(user_address)s is required by the full personalization option. Thanks Mark - this is probably solving the issue! Thank you! -- Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] improper shutdown causes mailman not to start?
Hello,
I rebooted my machine today and mailman wouldn't start.
Feb 27 06:46:56 2008 mailmanctl(692): The master qrunner lock could
not be acquired. It appears as though there is
a stale master qrunner lock. Try re-running mailmanctl with the -s flag.
Now could the reason be that mailman startup script did not have the -s flag?
mailman_start() {
/usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl -q start
}
I removed it recently because I was having problem with two instances
of mailman at startup. But I then realized I had two different scripts
to start mailman so I removed one. I did not however change the main
(and now only) startup script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ to have the -s
flag included.
Many thanks!
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman postings deferred by Yahoo
Hi, 2008/2/20, Rick Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My hosting company tells me that the mail logs indicate that the majority of Mailman's messages to Yahoo addresses return a deferred message. Here is the complete message: This is not even remotely mailman related. I have the same issue with normal mail. Contact yahoo, they reply initially, then keep quiet and nothing changes. The bigger the company, the worse it gets. -- Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman postings deferred by Yahoo
Hello, 2008/2/20, Rick Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yes. I am on a shared server. It seems that Yahoo picks up on the fact that this is going to multiple recipients (apparent 5+ raises the flag). Since I am on a shared server, it appears that my option for personalization is turned off. If I understand correctly, personalization might overcome the Yahoo problem but might cause a problem with my host if my list was a large one. That may be an easier fight. Not really. I generate email to yahoo separately for each recipient and I am still having problems. Fortunately, I am using exim so -Rff helps a lot. In short, while it may help, don't count too much on this. -- Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailmain starting twice
Hello, 2008/2/19, Carl Zwanzig [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In a flurry of recycled electrons, Adam Gabriel wrote: maybe you should grep your entire /etc/ for mailman_enable to find it. Not exactly: grep -i mailman /etc/rc* (don't look for the _enable var) FWIW, even though I really the bsd ports system, I still install mailman from source. Thank you! Carl this did it for me. I forgot I put: /usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl start in /etc/rc.local I now remember that at some point Mailman did not want to start automatically and rather than research the logs I put the above in rc.local... shame on me but thank you Carl! I restart this machine so seldom that I simply forgot all about it. Thanks! -- Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailmain starting twice
I should have included mailman logs... 2008/2/18, Zbigniew Szalbot [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, I am using mailman 2.1.9 on a FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE. My rc.conf only has one mailman entry defined: $ cat /etc/rc.conf |grep -c mailman 1 $ cat /etc/rc.conf |grep mailman mailman_enable=YES However, when I restart the system, there are 16 qrunners. When I do /usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl stop it shuts down 8 qrunners, leaving the others 8 running. When I repeat the procedure, it asks me that perhaps the qrunners aren't running (no pid) but greping ps ax shows 8 qrunners active. In the end I had to kill the master qrunner to make the other qrunners disappear. Then I started mailman manually and it worked as expcted (showing 8 qrunners in process list). Any advice how to debug this? Other than that Mailman has been running great! Feb 18 18:26:53 2008 (560) ArchRunner qrunner started. Feb 18 18:26:53 2008 (563) IncomingRunner qrunner started. Feb 18 18:26:53 2008 (567) RetryRunner qrunner started. Feb 18 18:26:53 2008 (565) OutgoingRunner qrunner started. Feb 18 18:26:53 2008 (564) NewsRunner qrunner started. Feb 18 18:26:53 2008 (566) VirginRunner qrunner started. Feb 18 18:26:53 2008 (562) CommandRunner qrunner started. Feb 18 18:26:53 2008 (561) BounceRunner qrunner started. Feb 18 18:27:06 2008 (718) CommandRunner qrunner started. Feb 18 18:27:06 2008 (716) ArchRunner qrunner started. Feb 18 18:27:06 2008 (717) BounceRunner qrunner started. Feb 18 18:27:06 2008 (719) IncomingRunner qrunner started. Feb 18 18:27:06 2008 (722) VirginRunner qrunner started. Feb 18 18:27:06 2008 (721) OutgoingRunner qrunner started. Feb 18 18:27:06 2008 (720) NewsRunner qrunner started. Feb 18 18:27:07 2008 (723) RetryRunner qrunner started. Feb 18 18:28:08 2008 (559) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 565, sig: None, sts: 1, class: OutgoingRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting] Feb 18 18:28:09 2008 (1242) OutgoingRunner qrunner started. Feb 18 18:29:59 2008 (716) ArchRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Feb 18 18:29:59 2008 (716) ArchRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 18 18:29:59 2008 (717) BounceRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Feb 18 18:29:59 2008 (717) BounceRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 18 18:29:59 2008 (719) IncomingRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Feb 18 18:29:59 2008 (719) IncomingRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 18 18:29:59 2008 (718) CommandRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Feb 18 18:29:59 2008 (718) CommandRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 18 18:29:59 2008 (720) NewsRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Feb 18 18:29:59 2008 (720) NewsRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 18 18:29:59 2008 (721) OutgoingRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Feb 18 18:29:59 2008 (721) OutgoingRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 18 18:29:59 2008 (722) VirginRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Feb 18 18:29:59 2008 (722) VirginRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 18 18:29:59 2008 (723) RetryRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Feb 18 18:29:59 2008 (723) RetryRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 18 18:29:59 2008 (711) Master watcher caught SIGTERM. Exiting. Feb 18 18:29:59 2008 (711) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 716, sig: None, sts: 15, class: ArchRunner, slice: 1/1) Feb 18 18:30:00 2008 (711) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 718, sig: None, sts: 15, class: CommandRunner, slice: 1/1) Feb 18 18:30:00 2008 (711) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 717, sig: None, sts: 15, class: BounceRunner, slice: 1/1) Feb 18 18:30:00 2008 (711) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 719, sig: None, sts: 15, class: IncomingRunner, slice: 1/1) Feb 18 18:30:00 2008 (711) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 720, sig: None, sts: 15, class: NewsRunner, slice: 1/1) Feb 18 18:30:00 2008 (711) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 721, sig: None, sts: 15, class: OutgoingRunner, slice: 1/1) Feb 18 18:30:00 2008 (711) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 722, sig: None, sts: 15, class: VirginRunner, slice: 1/1) Feb 18 18:30:00 2008 (711) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 723, sig: None, sts: 15, class: RetryRunner, slice: 1/1) Feb 18 18:31:27 2008 (560) ArchRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Feb 18 18:31:27 2008 (560) ArchRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 18 18:31:27 2008 (561) BounceRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Feb 18 18:31:27 2008 (561) BounceRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 18 18:31:27 2008 (562) CommandRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Feb 18 18:31:27 2008 (562) CommandRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 18 18:31:27 2008 (563) IncomingRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Feb 18 18:31:27 2008 (563) IncomingRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 18 18:31:27 2008 (564) NewsRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Feb 18 18:31:27 2008 (564) NewsRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 18 18:31:27 2008 (566) VirginRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Feb 18 18:31:27 2008 (566) VirginRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 18 18:31:27 2008 (567) RetryRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM
[Mailman-Users] mailmain starting twice
Hello, I am using mailman 2.1.9 on a FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE. My rc.conf only has one mailman entry defined: $ cat /etc/rc.conf |grep -c mailman 1 $ cat /etc/rc.conf |grep mailman mailman_enable=YES However, when I restart the system, there are 16 qrunners. When I do /usr/local/mailman/bin/mailmanctl stop it shuts down 8 qrunners, leaving the others 8 running. When I repeat the procedure, it asks me that perhaps the qrunners aren't running (no pid) but greping ps ax shows 8 qrunners active. In the end I had to kill the master qrunner to make the other qrunners disappear. Then I started mailman manually and it worked as expcted (showing 8 qrunners in process list). Any advice how to debug this? Other than that Mailman has been running great! Thank you! -- Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailmain starting twice
Hello again, 2008/2/18, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: Feb 18 18:26:53 2008 (560) ArchRunner qrunner started. Feb 18 18:26:53 2008 (563) IncomingRunner qrunner started. Feb 18 18:26:53 2008 (567) RetryRunner qrunner started. Feb 18 18:26:53 2008 (565) OutgoingRunner qrunner started. Feb 18 18:26:53 2008 (564) NewsRunner qrunner started. Feb 18 18:26:53 2008 (566) VirginRunner qrunner started. Feb 18 18:26:53 2008 (562) CommandRunner qrunner started. Feb 18 18:26:53 2008 (561) BounceRunner qrunner started. Feb 18 18:27:06 2008 (718) CommandRunner qrunner started. Feb 18 18:27:06 2008 (716) ArchRunner qrunner started. Feb 18 18:27:06 2008 (717) BounceRunner qrunner started. Feb 18 18:27:06 2008 (719) IncomingRunner qrunner started. Feb 18 18:27:06 2008 (722) VirginRunner qrunner started. Feb 18 18:27:06 2008 (721) OutgoingRunner qrunner started. Feb 18 18:27:06 2008 (720) NewsRunner qrunner started. Feb 18 18:27:07 2008 (723) RetryRunner qrunner started. Feb 18 18:28:08 2008 (559) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 565, sig: None, sts: 1, class: OutgoingRunner, slice: 1/1) [restarting] The above is from the first OutgoingRunner (pid 565) dying on its own and being restarted by its master (pid 559). Feb 18 18:28:09 2008 (1242) OutgoingRunner qrunner started. It restarts as pid 1242. This next bunch is from mailmanctl stop which signals the second master (pid 711) and all its children. Feb 18 18:29:59 2008 (716) ArchRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Feb 18 18:29:59 2008 (716) ArchRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 18 18:29:59 2008 (717) BounceRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Feb 18 18:29:59 2008 (717) BounceRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 18 18:29:59 2008 (719) IncomingRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Feb 18 18:29:59 2008 (719) IncomingRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 18 18:29:59 2008 (718) CommandRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Feb 18 18:29:59 2008 (718) CommandRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 18 18:29:59 2008 (720) NewsRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Feb 18 18:29:59 2008 (720) NewsRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 18 18:29:59 2008 (721) OutgoingRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Feb 18 18:29:59 2008 (721) OutgoingRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 18 18:29:59 2008 (722) VirginRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Feb 18 18:29:59 2008 (722) VirginRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 18 18:29:59 2008 (723) RetryRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Feb 18 18:29:59 2008 (723) RetryRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 18 18:29:59 2008 (711) Master watcher caught SIGTERM. Exiting. Feb 18 18:29:59 2008 (711) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 716, sig: None, sts: 15, class: ArchRunner, slice: 1/1) Feb 18 18:30:00 2008 (711) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 718, sig: None, sts: 15, class: CommandRunner, slice: 1/1) Feb 18 18:30:00 2008 (711) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 717, sig: None, sts: 15, class: BounceRunner, slice: 1/1) Feb 18 18:30:00 2008 (711) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 719, sig: None, sts: 15, class: IncomingRunner, slice: 1/1) Feb 18 18:30:00 2008 (711) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 720, sig: None, sts: 15, class: NewsRunner, slice: 1/1) Feb 18 18:30:00 2008 (711) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 721, sig: None, sts: 15, class: OutgoingRunner, slice: 1/1) Feb 18 18:30:00 2008 (711) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 722, sig: None, sts: 15, class: VirginRunner, slice: 1/1) Feb 18 18:30:00 2008 (711) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 723, sig: None, sts: 15, class: RetryRunner, slice: 1/1) Then you SIGTERM'd the first master. Feb 18 18:31:27 2008 (560) ArchRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Feb 18 18:31:27 2008 (560) ArchRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 18 18:31:27 2008 (561) BounceRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Feb 18 18:31:27 2008 (561) BounceRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 18 18:31:27 2008 (562) CommandRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Feb 18 18:31:27 2008 (562) CommandRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 18 18:31:27 2008 (563) IncomingRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Feb 18 18:31:27 2008 (563) IncomingRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 18 18:31:27 2008 (564) NewsRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Feb 18 18:31:27 2008 (564) NewsRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 18 18:31:27 2008 (566) VirginRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Feb 18 18:31:27 2008 (566) VirginRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 18 18:31:27 2008 (567) RetryRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Feb 18 18:31:27 2008 (567) RetryRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 18 18:31:27 2008 (1242) OutgoingRunner qrunner caught SIGTERM. Stopping. Feb 18 18:31:27 2008 (1242) OutgoingRunner qrunner exiting. Feb 18 18:31:27 2008 (559) Master watcher caught SIGTERM. Exiting. Feb 18 18:31:27 2008 (559) Master qrunner detected subprocess exit (pid: 562, sig: None, sts: 15, class: CommandRunner, slice: 1/1
Re: [Mailman-Users] Turning off confirmation
2008/2/6, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Robert Everson wrote: I'm running a mail list that is used for emergency notification, and many people subscribe using their cellphones. Because of this, sending a confirmation email isn't really the easiest way for the users to subscribe. Also, I don't really think that approving everyone would be feasible for me. Is there a way to turn off the confirmation/approval process for new subscribers? It is not recommended, but if you want to do it, and if you have sufficient access to the Mailman server, you can put ALLOW_OPEN_SUBSCRIBE = Yes in mm_cfg.py, and then you will be offered None as one of the choices for subscribe_policy. Keep in mind that in addition to making things easier for your PDA subscribers, this will also allow your worst enemy to subscribe multiple people to your list and when these people start receiving messages from the list and replying to the list with take me off this list and complaining to their ISPs that you are a source of spam, you will ultimately have to close the list. Hello - sorry to jump in and hijack the thread but is similar thing possible for unsubscribe process? That is, I would actually like to keep the subscription confirmation process intact but allow users to unsubcribe *without* confirmation. Is that possible? Thank you! Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Turning off confirmation
Hello, 2008/2/6, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: Hello - sorry to jump in and hijack the thread but is similar thing possible for unsubscribe process? That is, I would actually like to keep the subscription confirmation process intact but allow users to unsubcribe *without* confirmation. Is that possible? No. Users can unsubscribe without confirmation by unsubscribing from the options page after logging in with their password or by including their password in an unsubscribe email command. Otherwise, confirmation is required. Thank you Mark. Any chance of having it (unsubscribe without confirmation) as an option one day? I run two quite large mailing lists (12 and 28K subscribers) and I find that the biggest frustration for people is when they are tring to unsubscribe (confirmation email may get lost, be sent to spam, etc.) but somehow fail. However, I know I am using Mailman only because there are people like you who develop it, so many thanks for your work anyway! Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] DB mailman import script?
Hello, Is there a script to insert users from a mysql database into mailman? I can do it manually but I am wondering if there is a script to load a list of subscribers from a mysql database to a specific mailman list and if it is one which can be automated? Thank you in advance! Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Promotion
Hello, 2008/1/24, Khalil Abbas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello mailman guys.. ok, I have a dedicated server .. and I use mailman to send a daily newsletter.. I recenly got a list of 1,000,000 email addresses that I want to use to promote my website and mailing list .. can I create another mailman installation and add these addresses to it and use it to send an invitation to visit my website and join my mailing list without the risk of getting blocked by hotmail or yahoo or others because these emails I bought will have many faulty ones and will generate excessive bounces.. is mailman programmed in a way to avoid getting blocked by hotmail and others?? or do u think it's better to buy another server and use it for promotion? I may sound harsh but you cannot just get a list of 1,000,000 just like that. I do not think Mailman creators wanted their product to be used as a tool for spammers. Unless, these people have volunteered to be sent offers. I am not suggesting any solution because I am very much against such practices. Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Promotion
Hello again, 2008/1/25, Cyndi Norwitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From: Khalil Abbas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 06:41:14 + Now this is the most logical and reasonale answer I've ever got .. this is what I call: a reply from a professional.. she's right, I have no idea that this is spamming.. all I know about spamming is those who send you repeatedly every once in a while, and all I wanna do is send a simple invite and that's all.. if this is spamming, then screw it .. I'm no programmer and no whiz.. somebody gave me this huge list of emails for money and said it will make people more aware of my site if I used it to invite them .. anyways, thanks cyndi.. I really appeciate your help .. You're welcome. But as you read further in your email you'll see that others here shared my views. I'm very glad to hear you've changed your mind about this mailing. I wish you luck in your legitimate promotional efforts (buying ads on search engines or mailer software or elsewhere is a good choice). Yes, irrelevant to Mailman but promotion-wise you may want to look at adwords (Google). I am sure Yahoo! does something similar. Thanks! Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Whenever this pain will end??
Hello, 2008/1/18, Khalil Abbas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: well it's the same ol' story, I'm getting a 500 INTERNAL SERVER ERROR and can't even log into my mailman's administration pages.. You should for starters analyze your apache error logs. and one more thing, I kinda got lazy to read about how to retrieve your subscription list and subscribe or unsubscribe users from the list without using the admin interface, so could u please tell me how to add and remove new users without going to the admin pages that doesn't work? /path_to_mailman/bin is where all the useful scripts reside. HTH Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] attachments in every email showing
Hello 2008/1/16, Liss [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Subject: [Mailman-Users] attachments in every email showing The only info in the list attachment is the list info itself: -- news Weekly Newsletter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.mydomain.com/mailman/listinfo/mylist --- It happens when I send any html mail - I have tried every setting I can think of to shut it off... Just delete any list info from non-digest options page. Kind regards, Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] options to protect a mailing list
Hello, I have a newsletter type mailing list. Messages from a specific address are automatically distributed to the list members. Messages from other addresses are discarded. Since the messages are sent at night, what are my options to automatically send them without risking that someone else will forge the FROM address and send spam or whatever to the list? How do you handle that? Human moderation is not possible because the messages should be sent around 3 a.m. at which time there's no one around to moderate. Thank you! Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman errors
Hi there again, zbigniew szalbot pisze: Hello, I get a lot of below errors and worse some of the lists that have been created no longer send out emails. Can you help me troubleshoot it? Thank you! Nov 23 15:06:12 2007 (70462) SHUNTING: 1195826769.306325+db3247f3fd9baf0ca519cd58e37b4c1875fc76b3 Nov 23 15:06:32 2007 (70462) Uncaught runner exception: unsupported operand type(s) for -=: 'str' and 'int' Nov 23 15:06:32 2007 (70462) Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 112, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 170, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/OutgoingRunner.py, line 73, in _dispose self._func(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py, line 159, in process deliveryfunc(mlist, msg, msgdata, envsender, refused, conn) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py, line 345, in verpdeliver bulkdeliver(mlist, msgcopy, msgdata, envsender, failures, conn) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py, line 369, in bulkdeliver refused = conn.sendmail(envsender, recips, msgtext) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py, line 78, in sendmail self.__numsessions -= 1 TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for -=: 'str' and 'int' Have you set SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION in mm_cfg.py? In particular, have you set it to a string instead of a number? I.e., it needs to be something like SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION = 10 (or whatever number you want) not SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION = '10' The content of mm_cfg.py currently looks like this: OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION = Yes DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.lc-words.com' SMTPHOST = 'localhost' VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = Yes DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'lists.lc-words.com' SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION = '25' VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear() add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) If any of you had any advice where to start looking for solution, I'd really appreciate. Thanks! Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman errors
Dear Marc, Mark Sapiro pisze: zbigniew szalbot wrote: zbigniew szalbot pisze: snip Have you set SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION in mm_cfg.py? In particular, have you set it to a string instead of a number? I.e., it needs to be something like SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION = 10 (or whatever number you want) not SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION = '10' The content of mm_cfg.py currently looks like this: OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION = Yes DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.lc-words.com' SMTPHOST = 'localhost' VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = Yes DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'lists.lc-words.com' SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION = '25' VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear() add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) If any of you had any advice where to start looking for solution, I'd really appreciate. Thanks! Look carefully at what I posted previously. Your problem is SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION = '25' The value must be an integer, not a string. Change it to SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION = 25 Ah - since I am not a programmer, I did not realize that a string within '' is treated differently from a string without them. Thank you for your help and for mailman. It works very well now! Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman errors
Hello, I get a lot of below errors and worse some of the lists that have been created no longer send out emails. Can you help me troubleshoot it? Thank you! Nov 23 15:06:12 2007 (70462) SHUNTING: 1195826769.306325+db3247f3fd9baf0ca519cd58e37b4c1875fc76b3 Nov 23 15:06:32 2007 (70462) Uncaught runner exception: unsupported operand type(s) for -=: 'str' and 'int' Nov 23 15:06:32 2007 (70462) Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 112, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 170, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/OutgoingRunner.py, line 73, in _dispose self._func(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py, line 159, in process deliveryfunc(mlist, msg, msgdata, envsender, refused, conn) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py, line 345, in verpdeliver bulkdeliver(mlist, msgcopy, msgdata, envsender, failures, conn) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py, line 369, in bulkdeliver refused = conn.sendmail(envsender, recips, msgtext) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py, line 78, in sendmail self.__numsessions -= 1 TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for -=: 'str' and 'int' Have you set SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION in mm_cfg.py? In particular, have you set it to a string instead of a number? I.e., it needs to be something like SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION = 10 (or whatever number you want) not SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION = '10' The content of mm_cfg.py currently looks like this: OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION = Yes DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.lc-words.com' SMTPHOST = 'localhost' VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = Yes DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'lists.lc-words.com' SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION = '25' VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear() add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) Thanks! Zbigniew Szalbot Thanks! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] pending subscribers
Thank you Mark, Mark Sapiro pisze: zbigniew szalbot wrote: Is there a command to see all the pending subscribers? See http://veenet.value.net/~msapiro/scripts/list_pending (mirrored at http://fog.ccsf.edu/~msapiro/scripts/list_pending). I uploaded the script to /usr/local/mailman/bin but when I run list_pending adwent I get list_pending: command not found $ l -rwxr-xr-x 1 root mailman 4708 Nov 14 16:32 list_pending Thanks! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] pending subscribers
Hello, Mark Sapiro pisze: zbigniew szalbot wrote: I uploaded the script to /usr/local/mailman/bin but when I run list_pending adwent I get list_pending: command not found $ l -rwxr-xr-x 1 root mailman 4708 Nov 14 16:32 list_pending Check the shebang line at the top of the script. #! /usr/bin/env python This is an attempt to run python in a system independent way, but it relies on the presence of /usr/bin/env which apparently is missing or in a different place on your system. You can replace the whole thing with #! /path/to/python which on freebsd is in /usr/local/bin/python Problem solved. Thanks again! I appreciate it! Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] pending subscribers
Dear Mark, Mark Sapiro pisze: zbigniew szalbot wrote: I uploaded the script to /usr/local/mailman/bin but when I run list_pending adwent I get list_pending: command not found $ l -rwxr-xr-x 1 root mailman 4708 Nov 14 16:32 list_pending Check the shebang line at the top of the script. #! /usr/bin/env python This is an attempt to run python in a system independent way, but it relies on the presence of /usr/bin/env which apparently is missing or in a different place on your system. You can replace the whole thing with #! /path/to/python if you prefer. Since it works now, I would like to ask if list_pending is also able to send pending subscription requests (example being woken up by cron)? Thanks! Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] pending subscribers
Hello, Is there a command to see all the pending subscribers? Or better still a way to send them a reminder that they need to confirm their subscription? Thank you very much! Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] where do I edit English messages?
Hello, In order to handle some phrases better in Polish, I edited /usr/local/mailman/messages/pl/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.po followed by msgfmt -o mailman.mo mailman.po Then I wanted to do the same for the English language as I find some phrases overly complicated for the current web users. However, I do not see the English language anywhere in /usr/local/mailman/messages/ Where do I edit it? I would like to edit this string: - Your confirmation is required in order to complete the subscription request to the mailing list /advent/. Your subscription settings are shown below; make any necessary changes and hit /Subscribe/ to complete the confirmation process. Once you've confirmed your subscription request, you will be shown your account options page which you can use to further customize your membership options. Note: your password will be emailed to you once your subscription is confirmed. You can change it by visiting your personal options page. Or hit /Cancel my subscription request/ if you no longer want to subscribe to this list. - Thank you very much! Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] where do I edit English messages?
Hi,
One more question...
Mark Sapiro pisze:
zbigniew szalbot wrote:
In order to handle some phrases better in Polish, I edited
/usr/local/mailman/messages/pl/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.po followed by
msgfmt -o mailman.mo mailman.po
Then I wanted to do the same for the English language as I find some phrases
overly complicated for the current web users.
However, I do not see the English language anywhere in
/usr/local/mailman/messages/
Where do I edit it?
The English language messages are in the Mailman code. The code
contains things like _('English text'). This causes Mailman's i18n._()
function to look up 'English text' in the messages file for the
current language and present the resultant translation unless the
current language is 'en' in which case, no translation is required.
I would like to edit this string:
-
Your confirmation is required in order to complete the subscription
snip
-
If you find the msgid containing that string in
/usr/local/mailman/messages/pl/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.po, you will see it
is preceded by a comment like:
#: Mailman/Cgi/confirm.py:246
which tells you that the source of that string is the
Mailman/Cgi/confirm.py module around line 246. If you want to change
that string, you have to edit it in the confirm.py module. Then you
also have to edit the corresponding msgid string in the mailman.po
file for each language you allow and rebuild the corresponding
mailman.mo files. Otherwise, the lookup of the edited string will fail
and it won't be translated.
If I edit mailman.po for a given language and do not delete any line but
leave some of them empty (like this: \n). Can I do the same in the
confirm.py by leaving empty lines where I do not need any text?
For example the whole message:
-
Your confirmation is required in order to complete the subscription
request to the mailing list test4test list. Your subscription settings
are shown below; make any necessary changes and hit Subscribe to
complete the confirmation process. Once you've confirmed your
subscription request, you will be shown your account options page which
you can use to further customize your membership options.
Note: your password will be emailed to you once your subscription is
confirmed. You can change it by visiting your personal options page.
Or hit Cancel my subscription request if you no longer want to subscribe
to this list.
-
I would like to shorten it to:
-
Click Subscribe to complete the confirmation process or hit Cancel my
subscription request if you no longer want to subscribe to this list.
-
Can I do it in confirm.py in such way that empty lines will not be
removed? If I do that, does it mean I do not have to rebuild mailman.po
for corresponding languages (as the number of lines will be the same)?
Thanks!
Zbigniew Szalbot
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Re: [Mailman-Users] where do I edit English messages?
Hi there again, Mark Sapiro pisze: Thank you very much Mark! I appreciate your helpful comments. Any chance future Mailman versions can make it easier to change things like that? There is currently no plan. There are a few ways it can be accomplished. The most obvious is to make translations for languages like en-US, en-GB, en-CA, etc. Then you could select a particular English dialect and make changes in the translation just as you do for Polish. This is interesting. But how do I do that? I do not see an option for en-GB. If I had files to copy from, that would make it easy but all other languages are non-English. Thanks! ZS -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] scheduled sending with mailman?
Hi there, I wonder if it is possible to set up the following: 1. A mailman list is modereted so all posts are held for approval. 2. A cron script wakes up at certain time and approves a selected email. 3. This email gets sent to the list. I need to make sure I send one email a day to a certain list and this cannot be send beforehand but each email must get sent on a specific day. No.1 is easy but is No. 2 possible? Thanks! Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Displaying email address
2007/10/10, Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 10/10/07, Ben Botes wrote: When sending an email to my mailing list, I need to display the email address of the person the message is going to in the To field. Okay. Is there a setting that I am not seeing or is there a code that must be include in every mail I sent to have the email address visible? That's a client problem. That has nothing to do with Mailman. Isn't it what full personalization is for? See Non-digest options for full personalization of email from MLS. Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Displaying email address
2007/10/10, Ben Botes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dear Zbigniew, Thank you for you reply. I had a look at the documentation on Personalization under Non-digest option but I am maybe not understanding what the setting should be to have this done. If possible, could you send me a screen print on what the Non-digest option should look like to achieve this. Under Non-digest options, set check Full Personalization option and put %(user_address)s in the text box below it. %(user_address)s Also, for this to work you need to set OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION = Yes in mm_cfg.py and restart mailman. You should find this file in /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/ but your set up may vary. Regards, Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] hacking mailman.po
Hello, 2007/9/28, Mark Sapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What are my options when I need to edit some text within /usr/local/mailman/messages/uk/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.pl? I assume you mean /usr/local/mailman/messages/uk/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.po. Yes, my typo, sorry! I just want to delete 3 lines: pYou can now\n a href=\%(optionsurl)s\proceed to your membership login\n page/a. OK - I do not really want people to be looking at their membership page. I have monthly distribution lists (not discussion ones) and I just want to make sure people have links to my custom opt-in, opt-out pages. That's all. However, when people confirm subscription via web, they see then the above text. If I cannot delete it, can I just change it into anything else (like a thank you note or whatever)? Of course I need to do the same with the Polish translation. English and Polish are the only languages that are of interest to me at the moment. Thank you! Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] hacking mailman.po
Hello, What are my options when I need to edit some text within /usr/local/mailman/messages/uk/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.pl? Is it enough to just hack the text or does it need to be re-built then? If so, how? I just want to delete 3 lines: pYou can now\n a href=\%(optionsurl)s\proceed to your membership login\n page/a. Thanks! zbigniew szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] unsupported operand type(s)
Hello, I have been using mailman without any problem for the last year. However, today when I tried to post to a subscriber only list I first had a problem that Mailman contacted MTA on a IPv6 address. This resulted in exim rejecting relay attempts from Mailman. I corrected this and then sent again. However out of 650 people on the list only two subscribers got sent the message (as seen from MTA logs). I thought that maybe bounce score was bumped up for the list members and I unsubscribed all of them and then subscribed again. My last action was to re-send the same message to the list. And again only two people recevied it. There is no no-mail option turned on for the members. They should all be getting it as they have always had. When I look into mailman error log, I can see some errors. I am not sure if they have anything in common with my situation. I'd appreciate any help you can give me. Thanks! Jul 31 12:44:23 2007 (18125) SHUNTING: 1185878662.0085499+0ad74badf8a66bd8859206f6ed887c38ac4267b3 Jul 31 12:44:25 2007 (18125) Uncaught runner exception: unsupported operand type(s) for -=: 'str' and 'int' Jul 31 12:44:25 2007 (18125) Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 112, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 170, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/OutgoingRunner.py, line 73, in _dispose self._func(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py, line 159, in process deliveryfunc(mlist, msg, msgdata, envsender, refused, conn) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py, line 369, in bulkdeliver refused = conn.sendmail(envsender, recips, msgtext) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py, line 78, in sendmail self.__numsessions -= 1 TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for -=: 'str' and 'int' Jul 31 12:44:25 2007 (18125) SHUNTING: 1185878663.687403+30d438882c03342845939af5d5607078627b420b Jul 31 12:46:14 2007 (18125) Uncaught runner exception: unsupported operand type(s) for -=: 'str' and 'int' Jul 31 12:46:14 2007 (18125) Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 112, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 170, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/OutgoingRunner.py, line 73, in _dispose self._func(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py, line 159, in process deliveryfunc(mlist, msg, msgdata, envsender, refused, conn) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py, line 369, in bulkdeliver refused = conn.sendmail(envsender, recips, msgtext) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py, line 78, in sendmail self.__numsessions -= 1 TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for -=: 'str' and 'int' Jul 31 12:46:14 2007 (18125) SHUNTING: 1185878661.0661421+8660c954cc4cb81cbc14e5454bf70e31dadae03a -- Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] unsupported operand type(s)
Dear all, Problem solved -see below. On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:06:04 +0200, Zbigniew Szalbot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I have been using mailman without any problem for the last year. However, today when I tried to post to a subscriber only list I first had a problem that Mailman contacted MTA on a IPv6 address. This resulted in exim rejecting relay attempts from Mailman. I corrected this and then sent again. However out of 650 people on the list only two subscribers got sent the message (as seen from MTA logs). I thought that maybe bounce score was bumped up for the list members and I unsubscribed all of them and then subscribed again. My last action was to re-send the same message to the list. And again only two people recevied it. There is no no-mail option turned on for the members. They should all be getting it as they have always had. When I look into mailman error log, I can see some errors. I am not sure if they have anything in common with my situation. I'd appreciate any help you can give me. Thanks! Jul 31 12:44:23 2007 (18125) SHUNTING: 1185878662.0085499+0ad74badf8a66bd8859206f6ed887c38ac4267b3 Jul 31 12:44:25 2007 (18125) Uncaught runner exception: unsupported operand type(s) for -=: 'str' and 'int' Jul 31 12:44:25 2007 (18125) Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 112, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 170, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/OutgoingRunner.py, line 73, in _dispose self._func(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py, line 159, in process deliveryfunc(mlist, msg, msgdata, envsender, refused, conn) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py, line 369, in bulkdeliver refused = conn.sendmail(envsender, recips, msgtext) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py, line 78, in sendmail self.__numsessions -= 1 TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for -=: 'str' and 'int' Jul 31 12:44:25 2007 (18125) SHUNTING: 1185878663.687403+30d438882c03342845939af5d5607078627b420b Jul 31 12:46:14 2007 (18125) Uncaught runner exception: unsupported operand type(s) for -=: 'str' and 'int' Jul 31 12:46:14 2007 (18125) Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 112, in _oneloop self._onefile(msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py, line 170, in _onefile keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/OutgoingRunner.py, line 73, in _dispose self._func(mlist, msg, msgdata) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py, line 159, in process deliveryfunc(mlist, msg, msgdata, envsender, refused, conn) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py, line 369, in bulkdeliver refused = conn.sendmail(envsender, recips, msgtext) File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py, line 78, in sendmail self.__numsessions -= 1 TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for -=: 'str' and 'int' Jul 31 12:46:14 2007 (18125) SHUNTING: 1185878661.0661421+8660c954cc4cb81cbc14e5454bf70e31dadae03a The offender turned out to be SMTP_MAX_SESSIONS_PER_CONNECTION = '50' which I set mm_cfg.py. Unfortunately, because I also had some restrictions for handling mail server load in my MTA, exim blocked mailman's operation. Fortunately, the horror's over :) Thank you Zbigniew Szalbot -- Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL's Client TOS Notification
Hello, On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:00:56 +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Rick Pasotto [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have recently been getting some of these from one of my mailing lists. Welcome to the wonderful world of AOL retards. There is nothing in it (that I've been able to see) that would tell me who the user is that is rejecting the email. There are several AOL addresses subscribed but only one rejection each time a mailing goes out. Do you use VERP to send out the mails? If you do that you can see who the culprit is. What I do is I open the email headers and look for message ID. Then, based on the email date, I grep the appropriate log and find out the ok never mind, let's behave... ;) But beware... I recently wrote to two subscribers that we have been sending free content to, and as kindly as possible, I wrote that clicking spam makes it very difficult for us and other AOL users to send/receive the content. I also notified them that I unsubscribed them. As you can imagine, I got spam complaint one more time and actually got blocked by that! I had to file an AOL whitelist petition again. Warm regards, Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] AOL's Client TOS Notification
Hello, As Larry Stone mentioned, just put something in the headers and footers of every message, which tells AOL users that they will have their entire domain permanently banned from the list, if you get too many spam complaints. Then carry through on that threat when it happens. Simple. Simple - yes. Effective? Depends on what you are after. By doing it this way you are not really different from AOL, are you? You punish many users just because some other are thoughtless and lazy. When I offer something, I want people to use it, not ban it. Warm regards, zbigniew szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Personalization [was: mailman post mail to listerror]
Dear Mark, Thanks for correcting me! There's a setting to limit the number of emails mailman passes to a mailserver in one go. I don't remember it off hand, though. I think you are thinking of SMTP_MAX_RCPTS which controls the maximum number of recipients (RCPT commands) for one SMTP transaction from Mailman. This has no effect for a personalized list since if the list is personalized, the post is sent to each member in a separate transaction since the message is personalized - i.e., each SMTP transaction has exactly one recipient. But isn't there a setting you can use to limit how many emails are passed to MTA before mailman pauses a bit? I know I am not really using technical jargon here but I thought there was a way to control how fast emails are passed to an MTA. Thanks! Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] mailman-bounces with wrong domain
Hello, I have a problem with just one list - the main list called mailman. It was created with 192.168.11.51 IP as default for this list but since then I ran fix_url to point it to my current domain and when I visit the general options page for mailman, I can see the appropriate domain there. But when I write to [EMAIL PROTECTED], I get an email from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Where do I set this to the domain name? Many thanks in advance! -- Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman-bounces with wrong domain
Dear Mark, But when I write to [EMAIL PROTECTED], I get an email from [EMAIL PROTECTED] What are your settings for DEFAULT_URL_HOST, and add_virtualhost() for that host. The only ones that I use are: OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION = Yes DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'DOMAIN.TLD' SMTPHOST = 'localhost' VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = Yes If the settings are correct, did you restart Mailman (mailmanctl restart) since you made them correct? Yes, I did. That's the strange part. But still when I do: find -f /usr/local/mailman |grep 192.168.11.51 I get: /usr/local/mailman/locks/master-qrunner.192.168.11.51.85053 Thank you again! -- -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman-bounces with wrong domain
Hello again, The only ones that I use are: OWNERS_CAN_ENABLE_PERSONALIZATION = Yes DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'DOMAIN.TLD' SMTPHOST = 'localhost' VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = Yes What is in Defaults.py for DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST? Add the following lines to mm_cfg.py following the assignment to DEFAULT_URL_HOST. Well, shame to say it pointed to 11.51... Thank you Mark. I guess my searching for 11.51 string was incorrect. All is OK now. Thank you for your patience! -- Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] an alternative smtp server?
Hello, I have two machines on my LAN both with the same domain name. Mailman is installed on machine A but for actual SMTP mailman work I would like to use machine B (as machine A is a bit stressed with other tasks). I cannot use the domain entered in the general settings for a list (because smtp servers on both machines have the same domian). Is it possible to specify a LAN address of machine B so that mailman uses this machine for all of its operations? Bounces and all other requests would come to machine A anyway as this is defined at the router level. Thank you very much in advance! -- Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] an alternative smtp server?
Hello, Is it possible to specify a LAN address of machine B so that mailman uses this machine for all of its operations? Bounces and all other requests would come to machine A anyway as this is defined at the router level. For outgoing SMTP, yes. Just set (for example) SMTPHOST = '192.168.0.5' Thank you very much! That's very helpful. I will be able to delegate the mailman job to machine B and won't have to worry about overloading it (due to personalization) as it generally does almost nothing. :) Warm regards, -- Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] default language and English
Hi there, Mark Sapiro wrote: Password reminders are sent in the user's preferred language. If the reminder is for more than one list, and the user's preferred languages are not all the same, we use the language that is preferred in the largest number of the user's lists and pick randomly from ties. Thank you! Yes, when I switched the language for subscribers to Polish, I got a notice in Polish. I am still trying to see if I can take it a step further. I edited $prefix/mailman/messages/pl/LC_MESSAGES/mailman.po and commented out line 10230 (msgid Password // URL and its Polish translation) and altered line 10234 (msgid %(host)s mailing list memberships reminder). I saved the file and ran sudo /usr/local/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/mailpasswds however, this appears to have had no effect on mailing. What I am trying to do is to make the list more appropriate for the newsletter type of subscribers. They don't care about passwords, options, all they want is to get a (monthly) newsletter. Initially I set the personalization on but because each newsletter is about 100KB in size, this drains server resources when MTA quickly gets many such messages to be sent. So I figured I'd give up on personalization but offered reminders for which I simplified the language templates to be understandable to non-technical people. Mark - I know have no right to ask for any future features but would you consider offering future mailman versions more suited for newsletter type of things? Maybe a general switch during list creation to distinguish between discussion lists (with its own set of settings) and a newsletter type of lists where most of the settings are redundant (digets, passwords, option pages). I really appreciate what you are doing and thank you very much for helping us all. For the time being I kept the personalization on but turned the limit of max concurrent connections to MTA down to 1. Will see if that helps me keep the server sane (the machine is not too powerful and does not have too much RAM) and still communicate using mailman. Thanks! -- Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] default language and English
Hello again, Mark - I know have no right to ask for any future features but would you consider offering future mailman versions more suited for newsletter type of things? Maybe a general switch during list creation to distinguish between discussion lists (with its own set of settings) and a newsletter type of lists where most of the settings are redundant (digets, passwords, option pages). You have as much right as anyone to request features. I meant at least in the sense that I am using the software, not paying anything, getting your precious support taking your time, but ... thanks! We have had discussions which I don't have time to look up right now of adding a theme concept to list creation. I.e. a 'discussion' theme, an 'announcement' theme, etc. Then you could specify a theme for a list and it would be set up appropriately. Anyway, see the wiki at http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/Mailman+2.2 regarding plans and feature requests. I am sure things are going in the right direction. I just think that building some kind of e-marketing features into mailman might help it considerably in gaining new grounds. I work in a non-profit sector and I am happy I can use open source tools. Thanks for mailman. I stop hacking mailman sources and patiently wait for new verions. Warm regards, -- Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] default language and English
Hello, I have 3 questions about mailman (2.1.9). 1. I chose Polish as the default language for one list. And then I ticked off English. Only later did I notice that English has not been deactivated. Is it so that English is mandatory then? 2. Because Polish is the default language of a list, I edited the Polish template cronpass.txt and waited if the edited information will be sent to list members. However, to my surprise they got it in English. Does this have anything to do with no. 1 above? How can I make sure that both the subject line + mail content of password reminder will be output in Polish? 3. The information from point 2 was sent by me issuing /usr/local/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/mailpasswds command. However, cron was supposed to have done it at 5 in the morning today. That is Mailman's cron. Do I have to set it up somehow because it seems it is not working? Thank you very much for your help! -- Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] default language and English
Hello, 3. The information from point 2 was sent by me issuing /usr/local/bin/python -S /usr/local/mailman/cron/mailpasswds command. However, cron was supposed to have done it at 5 in the morning today. That is Mailman's cron. Do I have to set it up somehow because it seems it is not working? Looking at the docs I have found out answer to this question and set up cron for mailman. But would appreciate help with the first two questions. Thank you! -- Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] performance differences between limited and full personalization
Dear friends, I have a question about possible performance differences between limited and full personalization in mailman 2.1.9. That is, I set up full personalization for two lists that I have (they are more like for sending newsletters than for discussion). Anyway, I wonder whether I would have any gain in terms of performance if I switched from full to limited personalization. I read the description but it does not say anything about this issue. There's only comparison between personalization as such and no personalization at all. In other words, do I gain anything from changing from full to limited personalization? I like when people recieving our newsletters do not have to guess the email they were subscribed with but if it should help, I would switch from full to limited and place their emails in the email footer. Warm regards, -- Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] result of email command
I want users to subcribe to my mls by email only (as Mailman is not avilable to the world on the machine where it is installed). All works fine but when I subscribe and confirm, the email I get is very strange. It says (in Polish) Results of email command. The original message is attached and first line says: - Result: Confirmed and then the unprocessed rest of the message. My question is whether I can change some option somewhere so that there are no attachments. Just a plain message saying: Subscribed / Removed from the mailing list. Can it be set somewhere? Thank you! -- Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] list name in email
Hello, Is it possible to insert an equivalent of %(MM-List-Name)s into verity.txt template? For example, I have list which real name is ppl. It is an abbreviation and does not mean anything. But when people get the confirmation message, they should see a full name. I tried %(MM-List-Name)s, then %(listname)s, then %(description)s but they don't resolve to full list name. Thank you for advice! Warm regards, -- Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] result of email command
Hello, change some option somewhere so that there are no attachments. Just a plain message saying: Subscribed / Removed from the mailing list. Can it be set somewhere? No. There is no such option. You would have to modify the code in Mailman/Queue/CommandRunner.py. Thank you Mark - is there a reason why command results returned from web forms differ from email ones? BTW - thank you for your hard work and great piece of software! -- Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] list name in email
Hello, The substititions in templates are defined in a Python dictionary that is passed to the call to produce the substituted template. In general, the parameters which can be substituted are specific to a given template and are only those which appear in the base template. In this case, you can't add other substitutions to verify.txt unless you modify the calls to Utils.maketext() in Mailman/MailList.py to add the additional substitution parameters to the dictionary that is passed. I tried your advice and added such a line: 'MM-List-Name' : mm_list_name, However, mailman stopped sending confirmation messages to me so I guess I must have made a mistake (I added %(mm_list_name)s to verify.txt. Thanks! -- Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] list name in email
Hi there again,
Yes, you made a mistake. You'll probably find tracebacks from the
exception in Mailman's error log. The problem is the value you have
assigned to the key 'MM-List-Name' is not a defined variable. You need
'MM-List-Name' : mlist.real_name,
rather than what you have.
I applied the correction according to your suggestions, restarted mailman
but no confirmation email is being sent.
I find this in error log:
File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 887, in AddMember
{'email' : email,
NameError: global name 'mlist' is not defined
No worries - I will return to the basics :)
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Re: [Mailman-Users] list name in email
Hello again, And I made a mistake too. It should be 'MM-List-Name' : self.real_name, Thanks a lot. But this does not give me the full name of the list as on the mailman homepage for the list (where I took the MM-List-Name variable from) but again expands into ppl which is the real name of the list. I do not really want to bother you if this simply cannot be done. I know you are very busy. Thanks! -- Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] list name in email
Hello, Thanks a lot. But this does not give me the full name of the list as on the mailman homepage for the list (where I took the MM-List-Name variable from) but again expands into ppl which is the real name of the list. Then I'm guessing what you want is the list description (self.description) rather than the list name (self.real_name). Mark - thank you, thank you very much indeed! Can I have one more question? If I ever want to upgrade mailman (currently I have the latest stable version so no problem), can /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py be overwritten during upgrade or is it one of those files that don't get updated? Once again, many thanks for your help! Warm regards, -- Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] personalization and limiting number of emails to MTA
Hello, Is it possible within Mailman 2.1.9 to limit the number of emails sent to an MTA responsible for delivery so that not all of them are passed on one connection? I have a mls with about 600 addresses and the list is set to full personalization (monthly anounce list). When I ran it for the first time yesterday I saw mailman delivering about half of the emails on one connection and probably second half after a slight pause. This pause may have been caused by my (old) machine not able to cope with so many emails at one time. I just do not know. What I am looking for is limiting the number of emails sent by mailman to MTA to some custom defined value. Is this possible and if so then how? Thank you! -- Zbigniew Szalbot -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showamp;file=faq01.027.htp
