Re: [MlMt] one account (of eight) constantly displaying mailboxes as "unavailable"

2015-05-18 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 19 May 2015, at 3:47, Michael Dunston wrote:

One of the eight accounts I have configured in MailMate is constantly 
displaying the mailbox sources as “unavailable” every 30 seconds 
or so.  This account is my main university account, which is 
(unfortunately) no longer hosted by the university but through a 
“partnership” with Google to offer email and collaboration 
services through the Google Apps for Education program.  Curiously 
though, another one of the eight account I have configured in MailMate 
is a personal Gmail account and it does not seem to have this problem.


Based on my experience, there are subtle differences between Google Apps 
and Gmail. I have no idea what they are (and I'm sure it's not 
documented), but I have users on both systems which means this is not a 
general issue.


More specifically it seems that this happens at least once or twice 
per-minute, where the account mailboxes become “unavailable” for 
about 10-12 seconds, come back for about 20 seconds, and then repeat 
this cycle continuously.


Ok, that does sound bad. Here is what you can do:

* Open the Activity Viewer (⌥⌘0).
* Wait for one round of this “busy loop”.
* Use “Help ▸ Send Server Logs”.

Then I'll review the logs. I suspect it's some kind of server error 
which triggers MailMate to regularly retry.


I see a thread in the MailMate list archives from 18-Feb-2015 which 
mentions this behavior may be a known issue with Gmail for some users 
on some networks,


There has been many server issues in the past. In some cases Gmail is to 
blame and in others MailMate is to blame, but surprisingly often there 
is not much to learn from past experience :-)


but so far it seems to happen on every network I’ve tried - 
including my university networks.  Unfortunately this was not one of 
the accounts I used when testing MailMate these last few weeks; has 
anyone else who has experienced this discovered any insight into the 
issue?   Would log files be of any help in diagnosing the problem, or 
is there anything else I could do to help troubleshoot this?


The logs above would help and if for some reason it's unsolvable then 
I'll naturally provide a refund.


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Re: [MlMt] trying out the new spotlight integration...

2015-05-18 Thread Ralf Weber

Moin!

On 19 May 2015, at 8:27, Patrik Fältström wrote:

I have no idea why this mail from me ended up being empty...

Anyway...I feel spotlight is useless as Apple has decided to localize 
the keywords.


The mechanism/syntax in MailMate is much better ("f" for from etc).
Isn't that more an UI/UX issue than a spotlight issue. I hope that 
spotlight will increase the speed to get search results, but am not 
brave enough to try out the alpha yet. I also hope (you can treat that 
as feature request ;-) that the search box will act like mail.app and 
suggest keywords for terms (e.g From: when I type paf@f...) and that 
searches begin as I type, which are all are features of spotlight I like 
and don't make it useless IMHO.


So long
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Re: [MlMt] trying out the new spotlight integration...

2015-05-18 Thread Patrik Fältström
On 19 May 2015, at 8:10, Patrik Fältström wrote:

> On 18 May 2015, at 10:38, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:
>
>> Hey,
>>
>> I noticed the spotlight functions are in latest alpha. Needed to try it out 
>> ;)
>>
>> FYI: I did the symbolic link thing, putting it in ~/Messages.
>>
>> ...at what time can I expect it to start showing up in spotlight results ?
>>
>> Any special keywords I need to use to have the search kick in ?

I have no idea why this mail from me ended up being empty...

Anyway...I feel spotlight is useless as Apple has decided to localize the 
keywords.

The mechanism/syntax in MailMate is much better ("f" for from etc).

   Patrik


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Re: [MlMt] trying out the new spotlight integration...

2015-05-18 Thread Patrik Fältström
On 18 May 2015, at 10:38, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:

> Hey,
>
> I noticed the spotlight functions are in latest alpha. Needed to try it out ;)
>
> FYI: I did the symbolic link thing, putting it in ~/Messages.
>
> ...at what time can I expect it to start showing up in spotlight results ?
>
> Any special keywords I need to use to have the search kick in ?



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[MlMt] Evaluation results

2015-05-18 Thread Andreas Jung
Hi there,

I have been using Mailmate for three weeks now - with very mixed feelings.
As a longtime Postbox user I've been pissed lately by the bad support of Postbox
Inc and some painful bugs in the stability of Postbox - so I came to Mailmate.

However Mailmate also has tons of minor and major issues. Ok, no software is
bugfree. But the density of minor flaws in Mailmate (that I would not expect
from a 1.9 version) is annoying. Some of my highlight bugs:

- invalid counters for unread mails for *some* folders

- "default columns" do not work as expect, reverting the default columns
   for a folder is not persisted properly

- being unable to remove an imap folder containing message without prior
  removing all mails manually (major usability pain in the ass)

- incomplete and half-baked implementation of the "mailboxes" tree...being
  unable to arrange mailboxes as needed using drag & drop

- fragile rule engine...hard to debug why email rules work sometimes and 
sometimes
  not

- usability issues with the signing and encryption UI where the signing/lock 
icons
  are set or enabled when it does not make sense (e.g. no key available for a 
recipient)

Most of the issues have been reported as feedback or as bugreports.


What is my point?

Mailmate is not a bad application and I appreciate that the maintainer
cares more about productivity and power-user features than implementing
useless features that nobody needs. However Mailmate has a serious
quality assurance problem. A lot of features are only half implemented
and not stable or usable. What is the point? Mailmate costs 45 EURO
compared to 15 EUR for Postbox compared to nothing for Mail.app.
The conclusion is: all mail applications for Mac suck in their own special
way - only the price differs.

-aj

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[MlMt] one account (of eight) constantly displaying mailboxes as "unavailable"

2015-05-18 Thread Michael Dunston
One of the eight accounts I have configured in MailMate is constantly 
displaying the mailbox sources as “unavailable” every 30 seconds or 
so.  This account is my main university account, which is 
(unfortunately) no longer hosted by the university but through a 
“partnership” with Google to offer email and collaboration services 
through the Google Apps for Education program.  Curiously though, 
another one of the eight account I have configured in MailMate is a 
personal Gmail account and it does not seem to have this problem.  More 
specifically it seems that this happens at least once or twice 
per-minute, where the account mailboxes become “unavailable” for 
about 10-12 seconds, come back for about 20 seconds, and then repeat 
this cycle continuously.


I see a thread in the MailMate list archives from 18-Feb-2015 which 
mentions this behavior may be a known issue with Gmail for some users on 
some networks, but so far it seems to happen on every network I’ve 
tried - including my university networks.  Unfortunately this was not 
one of the accounts I used when testing MailMate these last few weeks; 
has anyone else who has experienced this discovered any insight into the 
issue?   Would log files be of any help in diagnosing the problem, or is 
there anything else I could do to help troubleshoot this?  Thanks again!

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Re: [MlMt] a few questions from a (former) Mailsmith user

2015-05-18 Thread Michael Dunston

On 18 May 2015, at 10:12, JC Delay wrote:

In "Preferences" > "Signatures", you have a `Caret 
placement` preference.

Mine is set to "Above Signature". Is yours set to "Always at Top"?


It may have been, but I think I may have also been tripped up by the 
dynamic “learning” nature of the signature mechanism.  In any case, 
it is working as desired now.  Thank you though!

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Re: [MlMt] trying out the new spotlight integration...

2015-05-18 Thread Max Rydahl Andersen

On 18 May 2015, at 21:09, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 18 May 2015, at 19:36, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:

so I just did -d1 and after several tens of minutes (not sure how 
many) I ended up with this:


	2015-05-18 15:27:09.383 mdimport[48652:15116610] Imported 
'/Users/max/Messages/IMAP/max.andersen%40gmail@imap.gmail.com/INBOX.mailbox/Messages/974598.eml' 
of type 'com.apple.mail.email' with plugIn 
/Applications/MailMate.app/Contents/Library/Spotlight/MailMateSpotlight.mdimporter.

[1]48652 segmentation fault  mdimport -d1 ~/Messages

If I run mdimport directly on this file nothing is printed out 
though.


I can run with -d4 but my guess is that will take hours if not days 
to complete ;)


Let me know if you want me to do that or have some other suggestion!


I suggest you rerun on the folder:


/Users/max/Messages/IMAP/max.andersen%40gmail@imap.gmail.com/INBOX.mailbox/Messages/

And then note that the output says “Imported” in past tense. In 
other words the problem is probably the next message in the folder (if 
`974598.eml` was not the last file in the folder). Maybe a higher 
debug level can help track it down.


yup, you are right.

974598 was marked as imported, but this one failed. It seems to be pure 
spam, but with some fancy UTF-8 ;)


See the one that gives segmentation fault here: 
https://gist.github.com/maxandersen/65e504217a81df629332


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Re: [MlMt] trying out the new spotlight integration...

2015-05-18 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 18 May 2015, at 19:36, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:

so I just did -d1 and after several tens of minutes (not sure how 
many) I ended up with this:


	2015-05-18 15:27:09.383 mdimport[48652:15116610] Imported 
'/Users/max/Messages/IMAP/max.andersen%40gmail@imap.gmail.com/INBOX.mailbox/Messages/974598.eml' 
of type 'com.apple.mail.email' with plugIn 
/Applications/MailMate.app/Contents/Library/Spotlight/MailMateSpotlight.mdimporter.

[1]48652 segmentation fault  mdimport -d1 ~/Messages

If I run mdimport directly on this file nothing is printed out though.

I can run with -d4 but my guess is that will take hours if not days to 
complete ;)


Let me know if you want me to do that or have some other suggestion!


I suggest you rerun on the folder:


/Users/max/Messages/IMAP/max.andersen%40gmail@imap.gmail.com/INBOX.mailbox/Messages/

And then note that the output says “Imported” in past tense. In 
other words the problem is probably the next message in the folder (if 
`974598.eml` was not the last file in the folder). Maybe a higher debug 
level can help track it down.


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Re: [MlMt] giving up - MailMate crash - won't synchronize

2015-05-18 Thread Helen Holzgrafe

Hi Benny,

I no longer have the offending files. Once I got them all imported 
(which did take nearly 3 weeks), I deleted the originals.  They were 
.mbox files in a POP mail account on my personal mail server, not an 
outside service, and I was using Postbox. These files had been around 
for many years and were originally in Eudora.


.mbox files do some checksums on the size of each message as well as 
having special lines that delimit the individual messages.


As I corrected these files I found that some were missing the delimiting 
lines, some were missing bits of the message thus making the checksums 
come out wrong.


In all cases, it was clear the files were old enough to have had some 
bit rot, and had been through at least one minor disk failure that 
likely removed parts of the file when disk blocks were lost. One message 
clearly had its header mixed inside its actual message.  One was missing 
8 bytes and messed up its checksum as a result.


So, my best help for you is to have you get (or create) some .mbox files 
somehow and then mess them up in these sorts of ways and then try to 
import them and see what happens.  I suspect that you might be able to 
get Mailmate to at least detect these kinds of corrupt files and react a 
bit better than it does now (i.e. give an error message rather than hang 
indefinitely).


Good luck,

-Helen

On 15 May 2015, at 4:13, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 14 May 2015, at 18:57, Helen Holzgrafe wrote:

Perhaps it would be good if Mailmate could do better 
detecting/handling corrupt import files.


You are welcome to send me an example file off list. I'm not sure 
exactly what happens here, but it does sound like MailMate could 
handle it better.


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Re: [MlMt] trying out the new spotlight integration...

2015-05-18 Thread Max Rydahl Andersen

On 18 May 2015, at 18:03, Bill Cole wrote:


On 18 May 2015, at 6:00, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 18 May 2015, at 11:58, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 18 May 2015, at 11:49, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:

Any thing I can do when rerunning index'ing to track down if/what 
bug in mailmate importer ?


Yes, there is a debug flag for `mdimport`.


Just use `-d1` to be exact :-)


Or '-d4' to see just how much scrollback Terminal will tolerate...

I'm currently about halfway through importing the ~450k messages I 
have loaded into MM and have found one oddity: Spotlight doesn't know 
the "Author" field (which it uses as the first part of the "Name" 
field in search results) until you've opened a message in MM.


so I just did -d1 and after several tens of minutes (not sure how many) 
I ended up with this:


2015-05-18 15:27:09.383 mdimport[48652:15116610] Imported 
'/Users/max/Messages/IMAP/max.andersen%40gmail@imap.gmail.com/INBOX.mailbox/Messages/974598.eml' 
of type 'com.apple.mail.email' with plugIn 
/Applications/MailMate.app/Contents/Library/Spotlight/MailMateSpotlight.mdimporter.

[1]48652 segmentation fault  mdimport -d1 ~/Messages

If I run mdimport directly on this file nothing is printed out though.

I can run with -d4 but my guess is that will take hours if not days to 
complete ;)


Let me know if you want me to do that or have some other suggestion!

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Re: [MlMt] trying out the new spotlight integration...

2015-05-18 Thread Bill Cole

On 18 May 2015, at 6:00, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 18 May 2015, at 11:58, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 18 May 2015, at 11:49, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:

Any thing I can do when rerunning index'ing to track down if/what 
bug in mailmate importer ?


Yes, there is a debug flag for `mdimport`.


Just use `-d1` to be exact :-)


Or '-d4' to see just how much scrollback Terminal will tolerate...

I'm currently about halfway through importing the ~450k messages I have 
loaded into MM and have found one oddity: Spotlight doesn't know the 
"Author" field (which it uses as the first part of the "Name" field in 
search results) until you've opened a message in MM.

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Re: [MlMt] a few questions from a (former) Mailsmith user

2015-05-18 Thread Michael Dunston

On 18 May 2015, at 7:35, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

I can see you already got some of your questions answered. I'll try to 
deal with the rest, but let me know if I missed something.


On 17 May 2015, at 22:25, Michael Dunston wrote:

First, is there a “paste as quoted” command, or pre-existing way 
to combine the functions of “paste” and “quoting -> increase 
level” into a single key command?


No, but I'm open for adding it as a variant of “Edit ▸ Paste”, 
e.g., bound to ⌥⌘V by default. I can see Apple Mail does not 
appear to have any paste-variants. What was the shortcut used in 
MailSmith?


Thank you for considering this!   The “paste as quoted” command in 
Mailsmith was “option+command+v” and something I use often when 
trying to summarize/reformat threaded discussions when new people are 
added to the discussion.


Is there any way to re-wrap quoted or body text, preferably with a 
user-defined column width and indentation options?


No, and there shouldn't be (well, except perhaps for an unwrapping 
function). Wrapping lines should be taken care of by the receiving 
email client based on the preferences of the recipient. The sending 
email client should use “format=flowed” to avoid hard-wrapping 
lines and this is what MailMate does. Any email clients not 
understanding “format=flowed” (shame on them) are going to see it 
as hard-wrapped lines (72 chars).


Understood, thank you.  The round-trip to BBEdit should solve this need 
for occasional reformatting.


Is there a menu item, or more specifically a key shortcut, for 
copying messages to a mailbox - similar to the “Move to 
mailbox…” function?


No, but you can hold down ⌥ when hitting enter (using “Move to 
Mailbox...”) to create a copy instead.


Thanks.  This is something I do infrequently, but that will be very 
helpful for when a copy to another account mailbox is needed.


Regarding replies, is there reply setting to place the quoted text at 
the top (with the insertion point after), for inline (or 
bottom-posting) replies?


Default behavior is defined in the Signatures preferences pane, but 
MailMate also learns your habits if you use the “Signature” menu 
in the Composer. This way your preferred style can depend on the 
recipient. You can reset what MailMate has learned by clicking 
“Reset Usage History” in the Signatures preferences pane.


Interesting, this might explain why it seems to work one way sometimes 
and a different way other times.  I’ll look into that.. Thanks again!

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Re: [MlMt] a few questions from a (former) Mailsmith user

2015-05-18 Thread JC Delay
Michael Dunston wrote:

>>> Regarding replies, is there reply setting
>>> to place the quoted text at the top (with
>>> the insertion point after), for inline (or
>>> bottom-posting) replies?
>>
>> That how it works for me now, don't think I have made any special settings 
>> to make it so..
>
> Thank you, I will look into this further.  I thought I had discovered this 
> might be tied to the signature block preferences, but at least now, for me a 
> “reply” results in the insertion cursor at the top of the new message, with 
> the signature below that, and the selected reply text at the bottom below 
> both..

In "Preferences" > "Signatures", you have a `Caret placement` preference.
Mine is set to "Above Signature". Is yours set to "Always at Top"?

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Re: [MlMt] a few questions from a (former) Mailsmith user

2015-05-18 Thread Michael Dunston

On 17 May 2015, at 16:48, Fredrik Jonsson wrote:


Michael Dunston 2015-05-17 22:25 wrote:


And as a followup
question - if key bindings are necessary to
do this, could these need to be installed
in


~/Library/Application 
Support/MailMate/Resources/KeyBindings/Mycustom.plist



I see the
BBEdit bundle will pass messages being
drafted into BBEdit, but I don’t see how
those edits come back to Mailmate


Simply hit "Save" in BBEdit.


Thank you for this information!


Regarding replies, is there reply setting
to place the quoted text at the top (with
the insertion point after), for inline (or
bottom-posting) replies?


That how it works for me now, don't think I have made any special 
settings to make it so..


Thank you, I will look into this further.  I thought I had discovered 
this might be tied to the signature block preferences, but at least now, 
for me a “reply” results in the insertion cursor at the top of the 
new message, with the signature below that, and the selected reply text 
at the bottom below both..



Additionally, is
there a way to edit the attribution line
text inserted into a reply?


Search the help for "Hidden preferences". A lot of interesting stuff 
here.


Thanks again!
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Re: [MlMt] a few questions from a (former) Mailsmith user

2015-05-18 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen
I can see you already got some of your questions answered. I'll try to 
deal with the rest, but let me know if I missed something.


On 17 May 2015, at 22:25, Michael Dunston wrote:

First, is there a “paste as quoted” command, or pre-existing way 
to combine the functions of “paste” and “quoting -> increase 
level” into a single key command?


No, but I'm open for adding it as a variant of “Edit ▸ Paste”, 
e.g., bound to ⌥⌘V by default. I can see Apple Mail does not appear 
to have any paste-variants. What was the shortcut used in MailSmith?



Is there any way to re-wrap quoted or body text, preferably with a 
user-defined column width and indentation options?


No, and there shouldn't be (well, except perhaps for an unwrapping 
function). Wrapping lines should be taken care of by the receiving email 
client based on the preferences of the recipient. The sending email 
client should use “format=flowed” to avoid hard-wrapping lines and 
this is what MailMate does. Any email clients not understanding 
“format=flowed” (shame on them) are going to see it as hard-wrapped 
lines (72 chars).


Is there a menu item, or more specifically a key shortcut, for copying 
messages to a mailbox - similar to the “Move to mailbox…” 
function?


No, but you can hold down ⌥ when hitting enter (using “Move to 
Mailbox...”) to create a copy instead.


Regarding replies, is there reply setting to place the quoted text at 
the top (with the insertion point after), for inline (or 
bottom-posting) replies?


Default behavior is defined in the Signatures preferences pane, but 
MailMate also learns your habits if you use the “Signature” menu in 
the Composer. This way your preferred style can depend on the recipient. 
You can reset what MailMate has learned by clicking “Reset Usage 
History” in the Signatures preferences pane.


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Re: [MlMt] trying out the new spotlight integration...

2015-05-18 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 18 May 2015, at 11:58, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 18 May 2015, at 11:49, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:

Any thing I can do when rerunning index'ing to track down if/what bug 
in mailmate importer ?


Yes, there is a debug flag for `mdimport`.


Just use `-d1` to be exact :-)

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Re: [MlMt] trying out the new spotlight integration...

2015-05-18 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 18 May 2015, at 11:49, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:


On 18 May 2015, at 11:39, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:


No worries - I know i'm living on the bleeding edge ;)


...and now I Think I payed the price. spotlight/mdfind crashed while 
indexing messages.


Oops.

Any thing I can do when rerunning index'ing to track down if/what bug 
in mailmate importer ?


Yes, there is a debug flag for `mdimport`. Also described in the [Apple 
documentation](https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Carbon/Conceptual/MDImporters/Concepts/Troubleshooting.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40001690-222819) 
for implementing Spotlight importers. Let me know if you can locate a 
particular message and then either share it with me or create one that 
also crashes based one, e.g., the headers of that message.


(And I'll recheck that I can parse my own database.)

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Re: [MlMt] trying out the new spotlight integration...

2015-05-18 Thread Max Rydahl Andersen

On 18 May 2015, at 11:39, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:


On 18 May 2015, at 11:29, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 18 May 2015, at 10:38, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:

I noticed the spotlight functions are in latest alpha. Needed to try 
it out ;)


FYI: I did the symbolic link thing, putting it in ~/Messages.


For the record, I'm working on making this easier via a GUI setting 
since I don't really want anyone doing this manually.


No worries - I know i'm living on the bleeding edge ;)


...and now I Think I payed the price. spotlight/mdfind crashed while 
indexing messages.


~/c/j/j/events git:production ❯❯❯ mdimport ~/Messages  

✭

[1]41367 segmentation fault  mdimport ~/Messages

and I was getting zero results from spotlight for a while.

Now they are back...but I don't think it have processed all mails.


In console.app I see this:
18/05/15 11:40:10.863 com.apple.xpc.launchd[1]: 
(com.apple.metadata.mds.index[275]) Service exited due to signal: 
Segmentation fault: 11


Any thing I can do when rerunning index'ing to track down if/what bug in 
mailmate importer ?


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Re: [MlMt] trying out the new spotlight integration...

2015-05-18 Thread Max Rydahl Andersen

On 18 May 2015, at 11:29, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 18 May 2015, at 10:38, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:

I noticed the spotlight functions are in latest alpha. Needed to try 
it out ;)


FYI: I did the symbolic link thing, putting it in ~/Messages.


For the record, I'm working on making this easier via a GUI setting 
since I don't really want anyone doing this manually.


No worries - I know i'm living on the bleeding edge ;)

...at what time can I expect it to start showing up in spotlight 
results ?


In theory, OS X should start indexing as soon as MailMate has been 
launched and the Spotlight importer has been detected.


Didn't seem to happen.

Running mdimport ~/Messages made it show up though - it is still 
indexing my ~500.000 messages :)



Any special keywords I need to use to have the search kick in ?


No. MailMate parsers text content of plain text body parts and the 
address headers. That should make it possible to make a search such 
as:


author:benny recipient:max spotlight


it works ;) woohoo.

Preview of the messages takes a bit to show up, but its really nice.

So, in another thread you said it was possible to directly respond to 
mails found in spotlight - how ?


Opening the mail works - any way to get from the single message window 
to show the message in context ? (i.e. its threads)


But I'm actually not sure exactly how the Spotlight syntax works. 
Documentation seems to be scattered or I haven't found the correct 
link yet. Here is one interesting 
[link](https://support.apple.com/kb/PH14172?locale=en_US).


You can also search via the command line using `mdfind` or see what 
has been indexed for a given file using `mdls`.


Yes, this definitely opens up a lot of interesting things!

does it support searching via imap/mailmate tags ? Does not seem to find 
hits on tags - but that could just be it haven't completed index yet.


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Re: [MlMt] trying out the new spotlight integration...

2015-05-18 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 18 May 2015, at 10:38, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:

I noticed the spotlight functions are in latest alpha. Needed to try 
it out ;)


FYI: I did the symbolic link thing, putting it in ~/Messages.


For the record, I'm working on making this easier via a GUI setting 
since I don't really want anyone doing this manually.


...at what time can I expect it to start showing up in spotlight 
results ?


In theory, OS X should start indexing as soon as MailMate has been 
launched and the Spotlight importer has been detected.



Any special keywords I need to use to have the search kick in ?


No. MailMate parsers text content of plain text body parts and the 
address headers. That should make it possible to make a search such as:


author:benny recipient:max spotlight

But I'm actually not sure exactly how the Spotlight syntax works. 
Documentation seems to be scattered or I haven't found the correct link 
yet. Here is one interesting 
[link](https://support.apple.com/kb/PH14172?locale=en_US).


You can also search via the command line using `mdfind` or see what has 
been indexed for a given file using `mdls`.


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Re: [MlMt] trying out the new spotlight integration...

2015-05-18 Thread Thomas Floeren

> On 18 May 2015, at 10:38, Max Rydahl Andersen  wrote:
> 
> ...at what time can I expect it to start showing up in spotlight results ?

You can try to force Spotlight import with `mdimport ~/Messages` or `mdimport 
-r `

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[MlMt] trying out the new spotlight integration...

2015-05-18 Thread Max Rydahl Andersen
Hey,

I noticed the spotlight functions are in latest alpha. Needed to try it out ;)

FYI: I did the symbolic link thing, putting it in ~/Messages.

...at what time can I expect it to start showing up in spotlight results ?

Any special keywords I need to use to have the search kick in ?

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Re: [MlMt] giving up - MailMate crash - won't synchronize

2015-05-18 Thread Max Rydahl Andersen

On 15 May 2015, at 13:26, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 15 May 2015, at 2:20, Thomas Floeren wrote:

No matter which mail client or mail box, I’m moving *out* messages 
older than 12 months, either to the folder of the project they are 
related to, or otherwise to my generic mail archive on disk.


Users preferring this kind of setup are going to appreciate the 
Spotlight plugin likely to be available in the next update of 
MailMate:


* Locally stored messages (`.eml` files) are searchable using 
Spotlight/Finder.
* A local message can be viewed in the single message window in 
MailMate.

* MailMate allows forwarding/replying to such a message.

(MailMate's own archive of IMAP messages can also, optionally, be 
searched using Spotlight.)


How, where, when ?!?!?

(if you don't notice my excitement then I'll just point out that this 
sounds amazing!)


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