Re: [MlMt] installing on 2nd computer
Let me add one caveat: The two installations should not butt up against each other or have conflicts. You can install any number of different IMAP clients on any number of computers with no problem, since the canonical home for your email is in the cloud. That's how IMAP works and why it was developed. I've found that it's a bad idea to have multiple machines running simultaneously with rules that sort and categorize incoming messages. What I do is have all of the rules on one machine; ditto SpamSieve. For me, what works best is SpamSieve on my always-on desktop, but sorting rules on my laptop. Why the split? Spam I never want to see, so I always want to get rid of it quickly. But important mail I want to see immediately on my phone, so when I'm not using my laptop I'll be alerted to inbound mail. (I also use server-side rules for less-important mailboxes that I'd never want to look at on the phone, but that's a separate story.) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] installing on 2nd computer
I think you can just install it and set it up with all the same settings and the same accounts. Your mail is not on your first computer (other than as copies). It's on the IMAP servers at your mail ISPs. If you install another copy of MailMate, it will download all the mail from the IMAP ISPs. It will not have any custom smart mailboxes that you made, unless you recreate them. The two installations should not butt up against each other or have conflicts. You can install any number of different IMAP clients on any number of computers with no problem, since the canonical home for your email is in the cloud. That's how IMAP works and why it was developed. On 14 May 2016, at 7:51, Howard Wettstein wrote: How do you install Mailmate on a 2nd computer (going overseas with laptop) so that it’s just like on one’s main computer? Howie Thanks. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] installing on 2nd computer
On 14 May 2016, at 2:41, Howard Wettstein wrote: Is this the equivalent of simply copying the directory from one computer to the other? A simple copy should work, but I think it's best if you only copy the settings and not the message cache. To do this you simply need the `.plist` files in this folder: ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate/ In this case you might also want to copy the preferences file (essentially the settings in the Preferences pane and any hidden preferences you might have enabled): ~/Library/Application Support/Preferences/com.freron.MailMate.plist -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] installing on 2nd computer
Frankly, I don't know. Copying doesn't necessarily preserve the "last changed" time, and I don't know for sure if MailMate looks at the relative change times of various files. On 13 May 2016, at 20:41, Howard Wettstein wrote: Is this the equivalent of simply copying the directory from one computer to the other? On 13 May 2016, at 17:33, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: I'm pretty sure it's Library/Application Support/MailMate. Open a terminal window on the machine with the good MailMate setup. Then do this: rsync -avH 'Library/Application Support/MailMate' othermachine.local:'Library/Application Support' where you replace 'othermachine' by the name of the destination computer. If it includes any blanks, enclose it in quotes per the above. On 13 May 2016, at 20:22, Howard Wettstein wrote: Or maybe just tell me what are the files or directories to sync. Thanks. Howie On May 13, 2016, at 4:00 PM, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: I cheated. I exited MailMate, and rsync'd the proper directories over... On 13 May 2016, at 18:51, Howard Wettstein wrote: How do you install Mailmate on a 2nd computer (going overseas with laptop) so that it’s just like on one’s main computer? Howie Thanks. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate --Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate --Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate --Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] installing on 2nd computer
Yes. On 13 May 2016, at 20:39, Howard Wettstein wrote: Thanks a lot. None of this is trivial for me. Question about “othermachine.local”: is “local” the actual word? How does rsync work? I’ve never done this. On 13 May 2016, at 17:33, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: I'm pretty sure it's Library/Application Support/MailMate. Open a terminal window on the machine with the good MailMate setup. Then do this: rsync -avH 'Library/Application Support/MailMate' othermachine.local:'Library/Application Support' where you replace 'othermachine' by the name of the destination computer. If it includes any blanks, enclose it in quotes per the above. On 13 May 2016, at 20:22, Howard Wettstein wrote: Or maybe just tell me what are the files or directories to sync. Thanks. Howie On May 13, 2016, at 4:00 PM, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: I cheated. I exited MailMate, and rsync'd the proper directories over... On 13 May 2016, at 18:51, Howard Wettstein wrote: How do you install Mailmate on a 2nd computer (going overseas with laptop) so that it’s just like on one’s main computer? Howie Thanks. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate --Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate --Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate --Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] installing on 2nd computer
Is this the equivalent of simply copying the directory from one computer to the other? On 13 May 2016, at 17:33, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: I'm pretty sure it's Library/Application Support/MailMate. Open a terminal window on the machine with the good MailMate setup. Then do this: rsync -avH 'Library/Application Support/MailMate' othermachine.local:'Library/Application Support' where you replace 'othermachine' by the name of the destination computer. If it includes any blanks, enclose it in quotes per the above. On 13 May 2016, at 20:22, Howard Wettstein wrote: Or maybe just tell me what are the files or directories to sync. Thanks. Howie On May 13, 2016, at 4:00 PM, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: I cheated. I exited MailMate, and rsync'd the proper directories over... On 13 May 2016, at 18:51, Howard Wettstein wrote: How do you install Mailmate on a 2nd computer (going overseas with laptop) so that it’s just like on one’s main computer? Howie Thanks. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate --Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate --Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] installing on 2nd computer
Thanks a lot. None of this is trivial for me. Question about “othermachine.local”: is “local” the actual word? How does rsync work? I’ve never done this. On 13 May 2016, at 17:33, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: I'm pretty sure it's Library/Application Support/MailMate. Open a terminal window on the machine with the good MailMate setup. Then do this: rsync -avH 'Library/Application Support/MailMate' othermachine.local:'Library/Application Support' where you replace 'othermachine' by the name of the destination computer. If it includes any blanks, enclose it in quotes per the above. On 13 May 2016, at 20:22, Howard Wettstein wrote: Or maybe just tell me what are the files or directories to sync. Thanks. Howie On May 13, 2016, at 4:00 PM, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: I cheated. I exited MailMate, and rsync'd the proper directories over... On 13 May 2016, at 18:51, Howard Wettstein wrote: How do you install Mailmate on a 2nd computer (going overseas with laptop) so that it’s just like on one’s main computer? Howie Thanks. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate --Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate --Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] installing on 2nd computer
I'm pretty sure it's Library/Application Support/MailMate. Open a terminal window on the machine with the good MailMate setup. Then do this: rsync -avH 'Library/Application Support/MailMate' othermachine.local:'Library/Application Support' where you replace 'othermachine' by the name of the destination computer. If it includes any blanks, enclose it in quotes per the above. On 13 May 2016, at 20:22, Howard Wettstein wrote: Or maybe just tell me what are the files or directories to sync. Thanks. Howie On May 13, 2016, at 4:00 PM, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: I cheated. I exited MailMate, and rsync'd the proper directories over... On 13 May 2016, at 18:51, Howard Wettstein wrote: How do you install Mailmate on a 2nd computer (going overseas with laptop) so that it’s just like on one’s main computer? Howie Thanks. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate --Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate --Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] installing on 2nd computer
Or maybe just tell me what are the files or directories to sync. Thanks. Howie > On May 13, 2016, at 4:00 PM, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: > > I cheated. I exited MailMate, and rsync'd the proper directories over... > > On 13 May 2016, at 18:51, Howard Wettstein wrote: > >> How do you install Mailmate on a 2nd computer (going overseas with laptop) >> so that it’s just like on one’s main computer? >> Howie >> Thanks. >> ___ >> mailmate mailing list >> mailmate@lists.freron.com >> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > > > >--Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb > > > ___ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com > https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] installing on 2nd computer
If possible, please explain. No idea how to do that. Howie On 13 May 2016, at 16:00, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: I cheated. I exited MailMate, and rsync'd the proper directories over... On 13 May 2016, at 18:51, Howard Wettstein wrote: How do you install Mailmate on a 2nd computer (going overseas with laptop) so that it’s just like on one’s main computer? Howie Thanks. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate --Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] installing on 2nd computer
I cheated. I exited MailMate, and rsync'd the proper directories over... On 13 May 2016, at 18:51, Howard Wettstein wrote: How do you install Mailmate on a 2nd computer (going overseas with laptop) so that it’s just like on one’s main computer? Howie Thanks. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate --Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
[MlMt] installing on 2nd computer
How do you install Mailmate on a 2nd computer (going overseas with laptop) so that it’s just like on one’s main computer? Howie Thanks. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate