Re: [MlMt] Domain whitelist for remote content, revisited
On 24 Feb 2017, at 9:01, Sam Hathaway wrote: On 23 Feb 2017, at 11:50 PM PST, Jan Erik Moström wrote: On 24 Feb 2017, at 8:50, Sam Hathaway wrote: Yes, I was clicking "forever" as well, but didn't have the patience to get past that initial period where there were many new domains to classify. OK (when I was using Mail this was how I handled this) I guess I was spoiled by Thunderbird! :) In any case, I agree that it would be very useful to more easily be able to review what has been blocked (and then it would be natural to also allow unblocking specific domains). I'll certainly keep it in mind. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Domain whitelist for remote content, revisited
On 23 Feb 2017, at 11:50 PM PST, Jan Erik Moström wrote: On 24 Feb 2017, at 8:50, Sam Hathaway wrote: Yes, I was clicking "forever" as well, but didn't have the patience to get past that initial period where there were many new domains to classify. OK (when I was using Mail this was how I handled this) I guess I was spoiled by Thunderbird! :) -sam ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Domain whitelist for remote content, revisited
On 23 Feb 2017, at 11:48 PM PST, Jan Erik Moström wrote: On 23 Feb 2017, at 19:11, Sam Hathaway wrote: - I'd like to see some of these images. - Hm, do I click "Load Once"? I have no idea how many questions Little Snitch will make me answer. - OK, let's do it! - [Answer like a dozen allow/deny questions] - Damn, I guessed wrong and denied a domain that had an image I needed. - [Go to Little Snitch preferences and change settings] Hmmm, here I would (and do) click "forever" and select allow/deny for the various domains. In the beginning Little Snitch will ask a lot but after a while most of the links already have a rule. Alternatively you open LS and define a rule that blocks most stuff and the add some exceptions to that rule (I think that works). Yes, I was clicking "forever" as well, but didn't have the patience to get past that initial period where there were many new domains to classify. -sam ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Domain whitelist for remote content, revisited
On 23 Feb 2017, at 19:11, Sam Hathaway wrote: - I'd like to see some of these images. - Hm, do I click "Load Once"? I have no idea how many questions Little Snitch will make me answer. - OK, let's do it! - [Answer like a dozen allow/deny questions] - Damn, I guessed wrong and denied a domain that had an image I needed. - [Go to Little Snitch preferences and change settings] Hmmm, here I would (and do) click "forever" and select allow/deny for the various domains. In the beginning Little Snitch will ask a lot but after a while most of the links already have a rule. Alternatively you open LS and define a rule that blocks most stuff and the add some exceptions to that rule (I think that works). = jem ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Domain whitelist for remote content, revisited
On 23 Feb 2017, at 6:31 AM PST, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: But it's still the same number of domains. If I understand correctly, you're just not forced to make a decision about every one of them. Yes, that's right. With Little Snitch, the workflow is: - I'd like to see some of these images. - Hm, do I click "Load Once"? I have no idea how many questions Little Snitch will make me answer. - OK, let's do it! - [Answer like a dozen allow/deny questions] - Damn, I guessed wrong and denied a domain that had an image I needed. - [Go to Little Snitch preferences and change settings] With Thunderbird, it went like this: - I'd like to see some of these images. - Let's look at the list of domains… - Oh, these couple domains look like they probably have the images I like. [click, click] - No? Let's try this other one. [click] - OK! Good enough. I've always wanted the image-blocking feature to also allow the user to see exactly what was blocked. If some kind of popup menu is implemented then it wouldn't be far from an implementation similar to Thunderbird. That would be fantastic. No promises though. Of course. Thanks for considering it! -sam ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Domain whitelist for remote content, revisited
On 22 Feb 2017, at 23:05, Sam Hathaway wrote: A while ago I posted asking if there was a way to tell MailMate to load remote content only from specific domains. The rationale here is that, since sender addresses can be easily spoofed, allowing remote content loading based on sender address is not really effective at preventing tracking. Nevertheless, this is what most users request. I'm considering to build in a white-listing feature based on the email address, but I'll then combine it with a requirement for some other headers to also match, e.g., the `X-Mailer` header. This part could be optional. (The latest test release includes blacklisting addresses for the completion of email addresses in the composer. This is kind of similar which is why I've been considering how to improve image blocking again.) By allowing loads by source domain, we can effectively control where potential tracking data ends up. (This is one of the few features I miss from Thunderbird.) Folks suggested that I try using Little Snitch to do this, and so I did. Turns out, Little Snitch is too intrusive when used this way, as it asks about each domain in turn, and I have to allow or deny each one. (And there are *lots* of domains referenced in your average HTML email!) Thunderbird, in the other hand, uses a popup menu which lists each domain and allows the user to select which they would like to allow content from. But it's still the same number of domains. If I understand correctly, you're just not forced to make a decision about every one of them. I've always wanted the image-blocking feature to also allow the user to see exactly what was blocked. If some kind of popup menu is implemented then it wouldn't be far from an implementation similar to Thunderbird. No promises though. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
