Re: [mailop] Google spurning the City of Kuopio, Finland
On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 10:57:37PM +0200, Atro Tossavainen via mailop wrote: > > It was reported in Finnish news today https://yle.fi/a/74-20014495 that > the city of Kuopio (#8 largest in the country) is unable to send email > to addresses served by Google and that this would be expected to last > for about two weeks. I tend to warn against blanket block of whole IP ranges or whole domains myself, but I know some actors do just that. I have myself been less than pleased with Google's mail handling at times, but for a domain or IP range block to have been put in place, there would have had to have been a fairly major incident (possibly of the misconfiguration kind) to trigger those extreme measures. The main irritant here is that the big G seems to not ever actually answer messages. You only know they notice you fixed the problem by your mail actually reaching Google hosted destinations after their dis-grace period expires. > I am not affiliated with the city of Kuopio or their ICT partner > Istekki myself, I'm just watching this as a curious onlooker. > > Based on what I see in spamtraps, "sending email from Microsoft environments" > isn't happening. 100% of the (very small amount of) email genuinely sent > from the City of Kuopio is sent from a dedicated server managed by Istekki > which is not a Microsoft environment. Routing outgoing through a smarthost that is properly identified as such in the various SMTP related TLAs (and others) would be my recommendation too, at least until there are indications that the IP or domain reputation is sufficiently on the mend. - Peter -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team https://bsdly.blogspot.com/ https://www.bsdly.net/ https://www.nuug.no/ "Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic" delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds. ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop
[mailop] Google spurning the City of Kuopio, Finland
Hello world, It was reported in Finnish news today https://yle.fi/a/74-20014495 that the city of Kuopio (#8 largest in the country) is unable to send email to addresses served by Google and that this would be expected to last for about two weeks. According to the comments in the article, the reason for the problems was a problem on the email server of the city which caused the domain name kuopio.fi to end up on a block list at Google. The news article links to a press release from the city itself. It says that for about a week, the city has had problems sending email from Microsoft environments to Google accounts. I am not affiliated with the city of Kuopio or their ICT partner Istekki myself, I'm just watching this as a curious onlooker. Based on what I see in spamtraps, "sending email from Microsoft environments" isn't happening. 100% of the (very small amount of) email genuinely sent from the City of Kuopio is sent from a dedicated server managed by Istekki which is not a Microsoft environment. If there is anything that should be reported back to the City of Kuopio or their ICT partners, I'm happy to act as the local conduit. :-D -- Atro Tossavainen, Founder, Partner Koli-Lõks OÜ (reg. no. 12815457, VAT ID EE101811635) Tallinn, Estonia tel. +372-5883-4269, http://www.koliloks.eu/ ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop