[libreoffice-marketing] Re: Recruitment for Base (Was Re: [steering-discuss] Base - a new mailing list?)
Le 14/09/11 03:39, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions a écrit : Hi all, > If we had more documentation for and people who really knows Base, it > would be easier to "sell" LO to some businesses. I know a user that I > had to add Office 2003 to his system since that was a deal breaker. He > has all of the books and modeling work in data base formats and cannot > "live" without Access. He created those DBs with MSO 97 and did not > upgrade to MSO 2003 until he switched computers and could not find the > install CD for '97. So unless LO can easily use Access files and > reports and forms he created over the years, he will not go to LO, even > thought he likes the idea behind LO and FOSS. > > So we really need to get more people to learn Base and ways for other to > easily learn how to use it. Writing documentation for Base is a pointless exercise for as long as the bugs which hinder the user from actually getting anywhere are not fixed. Currently it is like trying to sell a new car to someone where, once you get going, the motor drops out after 5 minutes. OK, so it is an exaggerated analogy, but realistically that is how it is today with Base (and it is not a new phenomenon, it has just got significantly worse since OOo released the 3.4-dev codebase and LibreOffice started). It is a chicken and egg situation : people don't want to use it or write documentation for it, because it doesn't work "as designed". Developers do not want to fix something that people do not want to use, especially when : - the effort just to get into the codebase is huge ; - you have to know quite a lot about databases ; - you have to know a substantial amount about Java programming ; - you have to understand UNO, and how the C++ code within LibreOffice is bound to the Java functionality that Sun added on and made interdependent. Not bad for a job description, huh ? Good luck finding someone prepared to take that on :-)) Alex -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Paris Conference Programme Uploaded, please share!
I'm sharing with Espirito Livre Magazine readers... in Facebook, Identi.ca and Twitter. 2011/9/13 Italo Vignoli > Charles-H. Schulz wrote: > > > The 1st LibreOffice Conference Programme and schedule is online here: > > http://conference.libreoffice.org/programme/ > > I will distribute the press release tomorrow, also to the announce > mailing list, and I will post on the blog (everything around lunchtime). > > -- > Italo Vignoli > italo.vign...@gmail.com > mobile +39.348.5653829 > VoIP +39.02.320621813 > skype italovignoli > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > -- João Fernando Costa Júnior Comunidade LibreOffice do ES / Iniciativa Espírito Livre / Equipe Bestlinux GNU/Linux User #422133 Ubuntu User #16167 -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Recruitment for Base (Was Re: [steering-discuss] Base - a new mailing list?)
On 09/13/2011 04:50 PM, Cor Nouws wrote: Hi David, all, David Nelson wrote (13-09-11 09:05) As a general thing in the LibreOffice project, I think we need to think seriously about a determined recruitment drive, for Base and for various other areas of the project. Just waiting for people to volunteer does not seem to be enough to cater to our needs for contributors. Marketing guys, can you give this consideration? Looks a good idea to me. The goal is to make it attractive for developers, isn't it? Of course those people are not attracted by a just mail base list for their own. They can be attracted when the work is considered cool, technology wise interesting, some area they user for themselves, maybe important. At least, that is my first thought. So we should think about bringing that message across. Correct? Cheers, If we had more documentation for and people who really knows Base, it would be easier to "sell" LO to some businesses. I know a user that I had to add Office 2003 to his system since that was a deal breaker. He has all of the books and modeling work in data base formats and cannot "live" without Access. He created those DBs with MSO 97 and did not upgrade to MSO 2003 until he switched computers and could not find the install CD for '97. So unless LO can easily use Access files and reports and forms he created over the years, he will not go to LO, even thought he likes the idea behind LO and FOSS. So we really need to get more people to learn Base and ways for other to easily learn how to use it. Any ideas that helps that goal is greatly needed for my group of business users that need databases in their small businesses. That is the onlly real thing stopping them from switching over completely. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Recruitment for Base (Was Re: [steering-discuss] Base - a new mailing list?)
Hi David, all, David Nelson wrote (13-09-11 09:05) As a general thing in the LibreOffice project, I think we need to think seriously about a determined recruitment drive, for Base and for various other areas of the project. Just waiting for people to volunteer does not seem to be enough to cater to our needs for contributors. Marketing guys, can you give this consideration? Looks a good idea to me. The goal is to make it attractive for developers, isn't it? Of course those people are not attracted by a just mail base list for their own. They can be attracted when the work is considered cool, technology wise interesting, some area they user for themselves, maybe important. At least, that is my first thought. So we should think about bringing that message across. Correct? Cheers, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Paris Conference Programme Uploaded, please share!
Charles-H. Schulz wrote: > The 1st LibreOffice Conference Programme and schedule is online here: > http://conference.libreoffice.org/programme/ I will distribute the press release tomorrow, also to the announce mailing list, and I will post on the blog (everything around lunchtime). -- Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com mobile +39.348.5653829 VoIP +39.02.320621813 skype italovignoli -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Extension website - broader publicity wanted
I was going to ask about Chinese spell checkers, but realized that glyph-based words/languages may not be suitable for spell checkers. Grammar and word use systems may be the only one for a computer-based document. I am glad I do not have to deal with a glyph-based language like Chinese or Japanese. The only good thing about single glyph based words/languages on a computer system is that you do not have the spelling issues that multi-character based words/language have. You have only the glyphs that are in you language font to deal with. Of course, you could use the wrong glyph thinking that is was the correct one for the word you wanted. I would be hard pressed to learn a glyph-based language. With my memory issues, I would never be able to remember which glyph was which. On 09/13/2011 12:55 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Some localisation teams are using the Alfresco system that was set-up by the Documentation Team. It might be worth joining the Documentation Team to find out more about Alfresco. Regards from Tom :) --- On Tue, 13/9/11, Andreas Mantke wrote: From: Andreas Mantke Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Extension website - broader publicity wanted To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Date: Tuesday, 13 September, 2011, 16:27 Hi, Am Dienstag, 13. September 2011, 02:27:30 schrieb Cheng-Chia Tseng: There is a big problem with LibreOffice Extensions and Templates site. Those two sites only provide 中文 (Chinese) as in Simplified Chinese, but do not provide Traditional Chinese. Can this be fixed up? Who can help us, Traditional Chinese users ,with this problem? there is currently no other language setting for Chinese available. If there are some volunteer for translatiion, I'm going to ask the Plone community about the translations process. If I remember correctly they use po-files for translation. Regards, Andreas -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Extension website - broader publicity wanted
Hi :) Some localisation teams are using the Alfresco system that was set-up by the Documentation Team. It might be worth joining the Documentation Team to find out more about Alfresco. Regards from Tom :) --- On Tue, 13/9/11, Andreas Mantke wrote: From: Andreas Mantke Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Extension website - broader publicity wanted To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Date: Tuesday, 13 September, 2011, 16:27 Hi, Am Dienstag, 13. September 2011, 02:27:30 schrieb Cheng-Chia Tseng: > There is a big problem with LibreOffice Extensions and Templates site. > > Those two sites only provide 中文 (Chinese) as in Simplified Chinese, > but do not provide Traditional Chinese. Can this be fixed up? Who can > help us, Traditional Chinese users ,with this problem? there is currently no other language setting for Chinese available. If there are some volunteer for translatiion, I'm going to ask the Plone community about the translations process. If I remember correctly they use po-files for translation. Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list of pointers for media relations
Hi :) These 2 emails were pointless as they were only talk and achieve nothing surely? Why waste peoples time with talk when it's only action that counts? Neither is a bug-patch or anything so it's a waste of time right? Regards from Tom :) --- On Tue, 13/9/11, Florian Effenberger wrote: From: Florian Effenberger Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list of pointers for media relations To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org Date: Tuesday, 13 September, 2011, 17:17 Hi, Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2011-09-13 15:05: > I know we have several pages on the wiki for this, and in fact what I would > need for the Paris conference is a set of pointers about the project's > achievements throughout the year. I'd send these pointers to the local PR > agency . good point. IMHO, Italo is already collecting some milestones, and our blog might also be of help for that. Maybe a dedicated wiki page makes sense, where everyone can put their topics in. Florian -- Florian Effenberger Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] list of pointers for media relations
Hi, Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2011-09-13 15:05: I know we have several pages on the wiki for this, and in fact what I would need for the Paris conference is a set of pointers about the project's achievements throughout the year. I'd send these pointers to the local PR agency . good point. IMHO, Italo is already collecting some milestones, and our blog might also be of help for that. Maybe a dedicated wiki page makes sense, where everyone can put their topics in. Florian -- Florian Effenberger Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Paris Conference Programme Uploaded, please share!
Hello everyone, The 1st LibreOffice Conference Programme and schedule is online here: http://conference.libreoffice.org/programme/ Please feel free to share! best, Charles. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Extension website - broader publicity wanted
Hi, I can provide Hungarian translation, as I did for OOo Extension site. Any other thing that I can do for the Extension and templates site? Is it possible to mass upload templates/extensions? KAMI On 09/13/2011 05:27 PM, Andreas Mantke wrote: Hi, Am Dienstag, 13. September 2011, 02:27:30 schrieb Cheng-Chia Tseng: There is a big problem with LibreOffice Extensions and Templates site. Those two sites only provide 中文 (Chinese) as in Simplified Chinese, but do not provide Traditional Chinese. Can this be fixed up? Who can help us, Traditional Chinese users ,with this problem? there is currently no other language setting for Chinese available. If there are some volunteer for translatiion, I'm going to ask the Plone community about the translations process. If I remember correctly they use po-files for translation. Regards, Andreas -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Extension website - broader publicity wanted
Hi, Am Dienstag, 13. September 2011, 02:27:30 schrieb Cheng-Chia Tseng: > There is a big problem with LibreOffice Extensions and Templates site. > > Those two sites only provide 中文 (Chinese) as in Simplified Chinese, > but do not provide Traditional Chinese. Can this be fixed up? Who can > help us, Traditional Chinese users ,with this problem? there is currently no other language setting for Chinese available. If there are some volunteer for translatiion, I'm going to ask the Plone community about the translations process. If I remember correctly they use po-files for translation. Regards, Andreas -- ## Developer LibreOffice ## Freie Office-Suite für Linux, Mac, Windows ## http://LibreOffice.org ## Support the Document Foundation (http://documentfoundation.org) ## Meine Seite: http://www.amantke.de -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] list of pointers for media relations
Hello all, I know we have several pages on the wiki for this, and in fact what I would need for the Paris conference is a set of pointers about the project's achievements throughout the year. I'd send these pointers to the local PR agency . Thanks! Charles. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
