Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Recruitment for Base (Was Re: [steering-discuss] Base - a new mailing list?)
Hi, Nor should it be forgotten that there is already an effort at documenting Base that is a work in progress on the LibreOffice Alfresco platform... So it's not like no-one has been doing some work on documenting it (IIRC, you, Alex, have been working on some of that documentation). I think Alex has pretty much hit the nail on the head... But, even so, it would be a valuable help if the marketing guys could turn their attention to recruiting new contributors to the project...t -- David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Recruitment for Base (Was Re: [steering-discuss] Base - a new mailing list?)
Hi Tom, On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Quite. I don't see how a questionnaire is going to actively fix even a single bug. Talk is cheap and a questionnaire is a prime example. At least a specialist mailing list dedicated to people that want to actively work on various aspects around Base, such as marketing, devs, documenters and so on would be able to start developing a plan. I think it's a sensible move to evaluate people's / organizations' needs so that we can take a rational decision about the next move. We *do* have a whole bunch of mailing lists at present, so it's not like we don't have somewhere to talk things through. The thing is to get the subject on the table and get the SC involved in the discussion, which is what is happening now. Another possibility is that we could ask for a slot on the Talkyou account and have a little conference about Base. Or we could put Base on one of the SC callconf agenda and discuss the subject there. The thing is to keep the communication rolling, and to have concrete proposals to make - and to concretely get involved in some action, after we've had a survey and brainstorming process to figure out what to do next. So I think we're on the right path already. Let's get down to the subject in hand. :-) As ever, 2 cents. -- David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Recruitment for Base (Was Re: [steering-discuss] Base - a new mailing list?)
Hi, On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: I know that the PostgreSQL developers are interested in closer integration with OOo from direct talks with them and we will be looking at this in more detail and we have realistic chances of getting significant funding resources. This sounds like one possible good move for LibreOffice: Base as as a front end and PostgreSQL as the engine at the back. That way, we only have to provide a decent, reliable front end, and we have a well-supported database engine. Although I would not like to give up on the possibility of supporting other databases, too. Although if I had to make a pragmatic choice between badly-implemented complexity of support for multiple engines and well-implemented support for just one engine, I'd choose the latter. Although, like Tom, I'd love to see TDF get something moving with Google (one of our supporters, no?) and work on Google Docs integration. Charles, could we maybe get some technical opinions from Michael and Thorsten about the feasibility of the above ideas? Michael, Thorsten, could you maybe explain to us what the problems and prerequisites would be for the above? -- David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Recruitment for Base (Was Re: [steering-discuss] Base - a new mailing list?)
Hi Charles, On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Although, like Tom, I'd love to see TDF get something moving with Google (one of our supporters, no?) and work on Google Docs integration. Google Docs is proprietary... Sure, but they have been one of our declared supporters from the outset of the project, yet I'm not aware of anything that Google and TDF have worked on together. I think it's a pity. While it's true that Google Docs is proprietary, they are pretty supportive of OS projects. And, pragmatically, they provide a free, cloud-based service that supports ODF formats. With a very big user base. I imagine that a lot of interest would be generated by LibreOffice/Google Docs integration, which could certainly have positive spin-offs for our project. I have a feeling that Google would probably react helpfully if we started the ball rolling, especially if the SC showed a positive attitude to the idea... If TDF was interested, I have a relevant contact I could approach about it... It would be interesting to see what might come of it... What do you think about that? In any case, the proposed survey is one really good way forward already. Once again, just my 2 cents... ;-) -- David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Recruitment for Base (Was Re: [steering-discuss] Base - a new mailing list?)
Hi Robert, On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:19 PM, Robert Ryley rryley1...@gmail.com Where can I find more info about this? Actually, Tom's been doing some very nice organizational work on the docs team's wiki: On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:08 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: There is a guide for general programmers http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation#Other_Documentation_and_Resources but it probably completely misses some of the key curved balls that Base devs will have to dodge or use. Oh, and it was written for OOo And you can also browse the current content on http://media.libreoffice.org (click the CMIS Repository link). You could also write to the docs team mailing list if you'd like to join us! :-) http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/documenters/ -- David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Recruitment for Base (Was Re: [steering-discuss] Base - a new mailing list?)
Hi Robert, On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:40 PM, Robert Ryley rryley1...@gmail.com wrote: If there is a move away from java, that is going to make a significant portion of that documentation obsolete. Is there anything specifically related to the move away from java documented anywhere? Any idea what the API is going to be to replace it? This is precisely information that is not documented at the moment, and - indeed - some aspects are still probably in evolution. Only the project's leading devs could really give you a satisfactory answer. But, certainly, the lack of developer documentation is something that is a real brake to people wanting to ease themselves into a position of being able to hack code for the project. AFAIK, a lot of the Java is being replaced with Perl. You have 2 resources that can help you familiarize yourself a little with the code base: http://docs.libreoffice.org/ This is some partial API documentation. And you've got: http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/ Powered by OpenGrok - a wicked fast source browser! This is a tool to search in the LibreOffice GIT repositories. For more info on getting into development, you can visit: http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/ HTH at least a bit. :-) -- David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Recruitment for Base (Was Re: [steering-discuss] Base - a new mailing list?)
Hi Robert, On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:57 PM, Robert Ryley rryley1...@gmail.com wrote: This is precisely information that is not documented at the moment, and - indeed - some aspects are still probably in evolution. Only the project's leading devs could really give you a satisfactory answer. But, certainly, the lack of developer documentation is something that is a real brake to people wanting to ease themselves into a position of being able to hack code for the project. AFAIK, a lot of the Java is being replaced with Perl. This is a very disappointing development. Perl is going to be MUCH harder to maintain than java. I recall the joke A programmer had a problem. He decided to use perl. The programmer then had two problems. I don't want to get too involved in the technical details here. But perhaps you could tell me how solid this decision is, and who to discuss some of these issues with? You should not take anything I say as being 100% reliable, as I am not a coder. Here's one more resource that will certainly help you (again, there is insufficient awareness of its existence): http://api.libreoffice.org/ You can write to the devs mailing list, or chat with them on IRC. You can notably look out for Michael Meeks, Thorsten Behrens or Norbert Thiebaud to name just three guys off the top of my head. Thanks. You're welcome. ;-) -- David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Reminder: LibreOffice Marketing Conference Call for June 2011
Hi, On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Bernhard Dippold bernh...@familie-dippold.at wrote: Marc Paré schrieb: [...] Maybe we could use Mumble or OpenMeetings. I favour Mumble as it does demand of too many resources from the user end but if people would rather use OpenMeetings then OK. Some NA Community members have tested Mumble and it works great. We are going to try out OpenOffice next. I think you want to try out OpenMeetings instead ;-) My experience with OpenMeetings is that it is a great package but not easy to set up (I have an instance on my own server - it was a challenge to install). I suspect that Mumble will be an easier solution to use, even if it does not have all the great features of OpenMeetings. The only thing with Mumble is that it needs a special client program to be installed on the conference attender's computer, although it's not difficult to install. -- David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] UK government getting serious about FOSS?
Hi, :-) On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 08:28, Christian Lohmaier lohmaier+libreoff...@googlemail.com wrote: Again: nothing against a UK or US regional site, but not with us.libreoffice.org and uk.libreoffice.org How about british.libreoffice.org and american.libreoffice.org then? Highly memorable and great marketing value. David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Great artwork
Hi, :-) Next time I do screenshots for the docs team, I'll use your desktop background. :-) David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Great artwork
Hi, :-) By the way, I really want to see you press ahead with that skin you did for LibreOffice that you had on DeviantArt... That was **so** cool. David Nelson 2011/2/16 Paulo José paul...@gmail.com: Hi Marc! On 15-02-2011 08:52, Marc Paré wrote: Paulo, if you could post these on the LibreOffice site as wallpaper files, we could add these to the LibreOffice Conference Kit[1] page for marketing teams' use. Well, these wallpapers are just tests rendered in a bigger resolution [asked by Leif] and their textures have poor quality. Actually, the resolution of textures (512px) is not enough to the 1024x768 format, so you can see the aliasing effect in the center picture (look to green highlights in the hills). Also maybe some text may be good too to keep the context of these images. I'll try to do something better today and present to you. :) Thanks a lot for the great artwork! I'm happy with the commentaries from you all. :) Thank you! And thank you for all the people involved in the Mimetype icons creation, because my only work was to put this great artwork in 3D format. :) Best Regards, ~Paulo -- Paulo José O. Amaro Computer Science Student Federal University of São João del-Rei WebDesigner / Linked Empresa Júnior Blogger / casatwain.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Great artwork
Yes, he's doing great work, too. I want to see that implemented. But I really loved what you did there on Deviantart, and you will remember that a lot of other people did, too. I really don't want that to become a forgotten thing. I wish my LibreOffice looked like that now. How can I hack my installation to apply your skin? If you find time, give me some clues and I might follow through and build the material and write instructions to make a hacked installation. David Nelson 2011/2/16 Paulo José paul...@gmail.com: Thanks! :-D I don't know if there are interest enough from community to do it right now - there are so many interesting projects in progress on design mail listing currently -, but I share your wish. :) Anyway, there are the Citrus UI http://clickortap.wordpress.com [1], an amazing project to change the user interface of LibreOffice. Sadly, it seems to be made by an only man (I'm not sure). ~Paulo [1] http://clickortap.wordpress.com On 15-02-2011 17:21, David Nelson wrote: Hi, :-) By the way, I really want to see you press ahead with that skin you did for LibreOffice that you had on DeviantArt... That was **so** cool. David Nelson 2011/2/16 Paulo Josépaul...@gmail.com: Hi Marc! On 15-02-2011 08:52, Marc Paré wrote: Paulo, if you could post these on the LibreOffice site as wallpaper files, we could add these to the LibreOffice Conference Kit[1] page for marketing teams' use. Well, these wallpapers are just tests rendered in a bigger resolution [asked by Leif] and their textures have poor quality. Actually, the resolution of textures (512px) is not enough to the 1024x768 format, so you can see the aliasing effect in the center picture (look to green highlights in the hills). Also maybe some text may be good too to keep the context of these images. I'll try to do something better today and present to you. :) Thanks a lot for the great artwork! I'm happy with the commentaries from you all. :) Thank you! And thank you for all the people involved in the Mimetype icons creation, because my only work was to put this great artwork in 3D format. :) Best Regards, ~Paulo -- Paulo José O. Amaro Computer Science Student Federal University of São João del-Rei WebDesigner / Linked Empresa Júnior Blogger / casatwain.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Paulo José O. Amaro Computer Science Student Federal University of São João del-Rei WebDesigner / Linked Empresa Júnior Blogger / casatwain.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-marketing] Request for UK local marketing mailing list
Hi Florian, :-) Would it be possible to set-up a special local UK marketing list? David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Templates
Hi, :-) On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:31, Kevin Soviero ksovi...@gmail.com wrote: The default templates for Impress have been terrible since the beginning of OOo. I want to make a beautiful set of templates for LibreOffice's version of Impress. I am wondering what team I would deal with to get them included in the next release (or whichever release in which the templates can be updated). There is always the chance they won't update them at all, but I hope my templates will be good enough to inspire the change... My suggestion would be the Documentation team, although Design will also undoubtedly be interested in the subject? David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-marketing] Request for draft for http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/marketers/
Hi, :-) @Drew: Drew, you're someone with a really good feeling for the Marketing project. I was wondering if maybe I could ask a special favor. Is there any chance you could quickly write something along the lines of http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/ux-visual-designers/ but for Marketing? David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Request for draft for http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/marketers/
Hi, :-) @Drew: thanks, man. ;-) @Marc: feel free to jump in and add stuff, Marc? David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [us-marketing] Marketing ConfCall agenda/topics - was Reminder: Marketing ConfCall
Hi Florian, :-) Could you look at my post to you about the SC confcall tomorrow? I never imagined you would schedule it at such short notice. ;-) David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-marketing] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots
Hi, :-) I need some more sample files with which I can produce screenshots for the libreoffice.org, from *all* the LibO apps. If you have LibO files (from Writer, Calc and Impress) that contain attractively-presented content that is not copyrighted, please mail them to me ASAP. If you have any well-presented equations for Math, I need some more too. Similarly, if you have any databases for Base with well-peopled tables, and with forms and reports, I need them, too. Thanks for any help. ;-) David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots
Hi Drew, :-) Guy I need sample FILES not screenshots. I'll do all screenshots myself in a uniform manner And Sophie, sorry, but they *will* be under Windows, not Linux, even though I'm a full-time Linux user myself, because *most* people use Windows and I don't want people thinking LibreOffice is some kind of marginal, geek product. TIA for any good data files you got. IN ENGLISH. David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots
Hi Drew, :-) Or, if you feel able to help out by taking screenshots yourself, then: a) a big thanks for the helping hand! ;-) b) take them under MS Windows using a DARK SLATE GRAY theme (window frame, etc) (I fail to believe that Bill is going to sue us because we took screenshots of our own product under MS Windows...) c) take the *window only* - no desktop d) 400px wide by 300px tall - please try not to stretch/squash the proportions e) Anything up to a dozen good shots from each app is what I'm hoping to accumulate in each app, demo the ke features: in Writer, tables, indexes, etc. I'm sure you see what I mean Just mail me whatever you got, whatever you can, when you can, and - once again - a *big* thanks :-D David Nelson On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 21:32, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Sat, 2011-01-08 at 21:19 +0800, David Nelson wrote: Hi Drew, :-) Guy I need sample FILES not screenshots. I'll do all screenshots myself in a uniform manner Ok, most of what I have does not use embedded database files, but I have a few of those also. Will send a these direct to your email account. Ciao, Drew -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots
Hi Drew, all, ;-) if you feel able to help out by taking screenshots yourself, then: a) a big thanks for the helping hand! ;-) b) take them under MS Windows using a DARK SLATE GRAY theme (window frame, etc) (I fail to believe that Bill is going to sue us because we took screenshots of our own product under MS Windows...) c) take the *window only* - no desktop d) 400px wide by 300px tall - please try not to stretch/squash the proportions e) Anything up to a dozen good shots from each app is what I'm hoping to accumulate in each app, demo the ke features: in Writer, tables, indexes, etc. I'm sure you see what I mean Just mail me whatever you got, whatever you can, when you can, and - once again - a *big* thanks :-D So, once again, my need is the above. ;-) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots
Hi Fabian, Drew, all, :-) if you feel able to help out by taking screenshots yourself, then: a) a big thanks for the helping hand! ;-) b) take them under MS Windows using a DARK SLATE GRAY theme (window frame, etc) (or if you really want to use Linux, a theme that closely resembles the above) c) take the *window only* - no desktop d) 400px wide by 300px tall - please try not to stretch/squash the proportions e) Anything up to a dozen good shots from each app is what I'm hoping to accumulate in each app, demo the ke features: in Writer, tables, indexes, etc. I'm sure you see what I mean (that would ideally be a total of 60 to 70 screenshots of the 6 products? but you best effort will be gratefully accepted... ;-) Just mail me whatever you got, whatever you can, when you can, and - once again - a *big* thanks :-D Or, please just send me sample documents that I can use. ;-) David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots
Hi, :-) To restate the need... I need some more sample files with which I can produce screenshots for the libreoffice.org, from *all* the LibO apps. If you have LibO files (from Writer, Calc and Impress) that contain attractively-presented content that is not copyrighted, please mail them to me ASAP. If you have any well-presented equations for Math, I need some more too. Similarly, if you have any databases for Base with well-peopled tables, and with forms and reports, I need them, too. Or, if you feel able to help out by taking screenshots yourself, then: a) a big thanks for the helping hand! ;-) b) take them using a theme that closely resembles MS Windows using a DARK SLATE GRAY theme (window frame, etc) c) take the *window only* - no desktop d) 400px wide by 300px tall - please try not to stretch/squash the proportions e) Anything up to a dozen good shots from each app is what I'm hoping to accumulate in each app, demo the ke features: in Writer, tables, indexes, etc. I'm sure you see what I mean f) The file you use for taking the screenshot should ideally be called sample.odt (or whatever extension) Just mail me whatever you got, whatever you can, when you can, and - once again - a *big* thanks :-D -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] Urgent call for sample files for producing screenshots
Hi, :-) OK, restatement of need again. I am going to scrap all the screenshots I previously took under Windows and completely start again. For those of you who want to help me with screenshots, can we please follow these bases *exactly*, so that we get a uniform set of shots that don't spoil the site design? (I am starting my shot-taking now, and won't be re-doing it again, so this is the way the shots on the site are going to be for the moment.) I have decided to adopt 1000px by 750px for the window size when taking the shot. (Under Ubuntu, you can easily use Screen Ruler for accurately sizing the window. The actual graphic shown on the pages will be downsized.) I am going to use screenshots taken under Ubuntu with the default Ambiance theme (with *no* visual effects activated). Reminder: I need some more sample files with which I can produce screenshots for the libreoffice.org, from *all* the LibO apps. If you have LibO files (from Writer, Calc and Impress) that contain attractively-presented content that is not copyrighted, please mail them to me ASAP. If you have any well-presented equations for Math, I need some more too. Similarly, if you have any databases for Base with well-peopled tables, and with forms and reports, I need them, too. Or, if you feel able to help out by taking screenshots yourself, then: a) Take them under Ubuntu Linux, using the Ambiance theme, with *no* visual effects. b) Take the *window only* with the window frame - not the whole desktop. c) 1000px wide by 750px tall - you can use Screen Ruler to accurately size the window. e) Anything up to a dozen good shots from each app is what I'm hoping to accumulate in each app, demo the key features: in Writer, tables, indexes, etc. I'm sure you see what I mean f) The file you use for taking the screenshot should ideally be called sample.odt (or whatever extension) I'll be working on this today Sunday, Jan 9, and tomorrow Monday, Jan 10. I'll be able to use all your contributions that comply with the above and that arrive within these 2 days. Please mail your contributions directly to me. ;-) A big thanks for any help. ;-) P.S. If you're not posting specifically about the work I'm talking about on this thread, please post under another thread and do not go OT here. Thanks for you kind understanding about this. David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice Slogan
Hi, :-) I still like my idea: LibreOffice. Do what you want. / LibreOffice. Fais ce que tu veux., LibreOffice. Realises ce que tu veux. / LibreOffice. Mach was du willst. / LibreOffice. Haz lo que quieras. / LibreOffice. Fai quello che vuoi. Short - 4 to 5 words in most languages. Easy to translate. Easy to understand. Appeals to all audiences, all ages. Anyone that speaks any English can understand and empathize with this slogan. It's got a ring of defiance and yet, through the same words, alludes to the suite's creative possibilities. David Nelson On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 09:02, Michael Wheatland mich...@wheatland.com.au wrote: On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/30/2010 06:31 AM, Michael Wheatland wrote: At this point in time I might suggest: LibreOffice, the document evolution LibreOffice, the document revolution Evolution and revolution, together with leader, are two of the most overused words in marketing. The two concepts are correct, but we should find better wording for them. Possibly Revolutionary leader in document evolution :) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
Hi, :-) I second the seasonal greetings to all. ;-) And to you, Florian, I wish you a happy and restful time. You have put great energy and work into giving leadership and guidance to the community, and don't think that we are not aware of it. You do indeed deserve some moments of quiet pride and satisfaction in what you have put into the project. Let's *all work hard* in 2011 to make the values of Free Open Source Software thrive. David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Libreoffice] Features list
Hi Sophie, :-) Thanks for that, I will include them on the site ASAP. ;-) David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Making a few web buttons
Hi Drew, Bernhard, :-) The buttons I envision needing by Monday would be as follows: 1) Button for a link to the Planet RSS feed; 2) Button for a link to the Blog RSS feed; 3) Button for a link to the LibO Twitter page; 4) Button for a link to the #documentfoundation IRC; 5) Button for a link to the #libreoffice IRC; 6) Button for a link to the Get Involved page; 7) Button for a link to the documentfoundation.org site; 8) Button for a link to the Features page; 9) Button for a link to the Get Help page. My recommendation would be: 1) have the above buttons in .png format (with source files from Gimp or Inkscape, or just .svg files); 2) make them no wider than 150px or (max) 200px (no particular constraints for height, except all should be the same height); 3) consider not having the text embedded in the button, but placed on top via HTML and CSS (although a submission could include both, so that I can make a choice when doing the page); 4) comply with the marketing/design colors and guidelines. If you feel like taking on this task on Sunday or Monday, it would be great. If you don't have time then no problem and I will do it myself. (Just for info, following today's SC meeting, I have a remit to work on the site pages by myself until Tuesday, implementing the ideas I worked on with Italo. On Tuesday, I present/content the site to the website team/world for comments, for 24 hours, and then I take account of those comments within 24 hours, before handing back the site to the marketing/design/website teams. The target is to have the site theoretically [and effectively] ready to roll out by Thursday.) What do you think? David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Making a few web buttons
Hi Drew, :-) Some grahpics for use on LibreOffice specific web pages - License for these is CC3 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Are you requiring attribution, or can your work be used without? David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibO Logo
Hi, :-) On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 22:53, Lucas Filho lucas...@yahoo.com.br wrote: It would be interesting to launch an online vote to the proposal that we already have? (We can fit all the logos on the wiki so that s for a vote - http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding/Ideas) ... With this we will strengthen the image more collaborative we propose for our users. I will then send a draft of a mascot that used in our social network for evaluation. +1 David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Mailing list des...@... for Design Team
Hi, :-) On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 10:32, Michael Wheatland mich...@wheatland.com.au wrote: We have forums being constructed with the official LibreOffice drupal website which will also support mailing list interaction. Little question: does the forums module have list-to forums and forums-to-list functionality? Personally, I much prefer forums but, for a few people and some situations, the mailing lists are a useful way to stay in touch with things - when you're traveling, and only have a lowish-end cellphone, for example... David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Mailing list des...@... for Design Team
Hi, :-) On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 16:46, David Nelson comme...@traduction.biz wrote: On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 10:32, Michael Wheatland mich...@wheatland.com.au wrote: We have forums being constructed with the official LibreOffice drupal website which will also support mailing list interaction. Little question: does the forums module have list-to forums and forums-to-list functionality? Personally, I much prefer forums but, for a few people and some situations, the mailing lists are a useful way to stay in touch with things - when you're traveling, and only have a lowish-end cellphone, for example... Sorry, I should have been clearer: I was asking about the forums software being adopted for the Drupal-base site... David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Mailing list des...@... for Design Team
Hi, :-) On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 19:26, Michael Wheatland mich...@wheatland.com.au wrote: I hope this helps clear things up. Yes, thanks, sounds great. ;-) David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Logo/mascot competition
Hi, :-) On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 20:39, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote: I just spotted the question whether you can use the wiki, and sure, you can do so. :-) OK, thanks. And the lists, too? ;-) David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Logo/mascot competition
Hi Thorsten, :-) I have understood that you don't favor the idea of a competition. I did read your blog posts on the subject [1] [2]. There *are* people who disagree with you: In open source we have traditionally ran such contests, so in reality Thorsten is putting forward the controversial idea.. ;-) [3] You do seem to be a little dogmatic on the subject: We need to shout it loud and clear that spec work should not be affiliated, is not related to, and will not be tolerated with the Open Source / Free Software movement. [2] But please stop shouting about it here, because people do have a right to discuss ideas even if you don't agree with what they're saying. Also, please don't introduce an emotive, personal element into what is purely an intellectual debate. (In any case, this thread does not commit TDF to any course of action.) If you don't want to read it, feel free to hit the delete button. ;-) Actually, IMHO, your own blog post points-up one very good reason for at least giving consideration to *some* form of contest: If you just let things happen in a collaborative project with design/artwork needs, you will likely see a few people creating proposals that mostly cover the same ground. They all will base there work on their own assumptions regarding various aspects of the project. [1] I thoroughly agree with one of the statements you made: A collaborative project should have a documented mission statement/vision/set of goals. [1] So, any process with some kind of competitive/comparative aspect to it would need to be carefully designed and planned beforehand. There's nothing wrong with creating a wiki page on the subject, to develop further thinking about it. But I do hope you read my previous posts as carefully as I read yours. In which case you will understand *why* I posted in response to Florian's invitation to go ahead and create a wiki page, and you will *remember* that I actually suggested that it should be someone else that makes the first move. To quote a line from the movie K-PAX, To quote a line from Navarro, my dear Doctor, you need to chill. ;-) IMHO, your preceding couple of posts are OT. Please allow people a little freedom of speech and of thought? Can we just leave this thread open to people who might like to explore the original topic further? It's a pity you're so anti the idea, because your expertise would have been valuable in arriving at something well thought-out and organized. :-( To anyone who might reply that, Anyway, there is definitely not going to be any kind of competition, I'd reply that a) it's a pity to make definitive declarations about something before having examined a mature and fully-formed proposal, and that b) it seems a little out of place to make such authoritative statements as yet when so much about the LibO project is still unclear and ambiguous. I don't intend to reply to anything further that bears any kind of resemblance to trolling, flaming, discourtesy or unfriendliness (it might be relevant to read what the draft TDF statutes have to say about such forms of behavior). I will be perfectly willing to take part in discussion that is measured and courteous in its tone and content. :-) I hope you can understand my POV... :-) Can we please reset, and resume the original subject? [1] http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2010/03/09/design-in-collaborative-projects/ [2] http://troy-sobotka.blogspot.com/2010/01/specs-and-contests-we-all-lose.html [3] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2010-November/012593.html David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Logo/mascot competition
Hi, :-) I've been watching this thread accumulate some responses to the idea of a logo competition, and I also had responses in a couple of off-list messages, so I guess one could say that I've been answered. To summarize: No - in any case, certainly not at this time. Maybe a narrower process involving a small selection of designers, basically within an in-project design team, possibly giving rise to a few variants to be chosen from. In any case, I'm glad there's fresh input from the people taking an interest from Ubuntu Artwork. John and Thorsten both seem to favor an organized and methodical approach [1] and, IMHO, that would be very beneficial. I hope their involvement is going to be a regular, on-going thing. Anyway, I'll be looking forward to seeing what this all produces. :-) David Nelson [1] http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Briefing-td1909896.html#a1909896 -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Logo/mascot competition
Hi, :-) Thorsten, I will let this thread sit and, hopefully, catch responses for a couple of days, and then I'll write back with answers. Thank you for having replied. David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] [Libreoffice] logos..?
Hi, :-) [1] Wiki page: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Ideas [2] LibreOffice beta 2: http://www.documentfoundation.org/download/ [3] Branding info: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Logo Enhancements
Hi Graham, :-) On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 19:43, Graham Lauder yori...@openoffice.org wrote: I take it then, given that you haven't rebutted any of my points that you now agree with them, or are you simply of the school that ignores any opposing view to your own No, it means I don't have the time to get into pointless arguments. I like to express my ideas and, maybe, to clarify them if they seem to be misunderstood. But people are free to disagree with me - I try to avoid being dogmatic about things. My ambition in this project would be to make a tangible contribution of some sort, not to be debating endlessly on mailing lists. ;-) David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Logo Enhancements
Hi, :-) On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 20:54, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: Otto the seagull was the work of a 16 year old and was originated by a competition for school children organised by myself and Daniel Carrera. Perhaps a bit different in context but that seemed to work quite well for the schools project at the time. Gained quite a lot of publicity - try putting Otto OpenOffice.org into Google. That's really cool, Ian. Would it be possible to do something like that again, for LibO? If you run a competition you can have a get out clause which reserves the right not to use any of the entries. Oh, sure. And require provision of all source files, with the necessary rights. Plus, use of Open Source software and free fonts for the production. It's important that the selected artwork be maintainable and develop-able in the future. Hopefully, the artist would be or would become a team member. But, even if not, one can use and adapt someone else's work if that work satisfies the important criteria from the outset... We'd just have to figure out a reasonable set of rules. 0.2 cents. David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] A home for all ... topics :-)
Hi, :-) On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 21:55, Christoph Noack christ...@dogmatux.com wrote: Please have a look at it and comment on: * Is it helpful at all? Might this become something official to coordinate our Marketing / Design Team work? * Is there something missing? +1 for adoption... It's a more-organized way of doing things and seeing what's in progress. Maybe we could add something regarding a possible logo/mascot competition? IMHO, there are sufficient justifications to at least give it a place on the agenda for official disgussion... David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Ubuntu Artwork Team
Hi John, hi Thorsten :-) On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 17:44, Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de wrote: I think such requests and specifications should be managed inside the LibreOffice project. (The concept of a project-neutral online platform for managing assets, requests for artwork/design, structured design processes ... has been floating around and discussed at UDS a little bit.) First of all, a big welcome to the list, and a very big thanks for having responded to my contact-making. During the marketing conference call on November 11, we discussed bridge-building with Linux distributions, as well as the kind and helpful responses we had from the Ubuntu Artwork group. Speaking personally, but not in any kind of official capacity as regards TDF, I hope that this is going to be just the start of a long-lasting relationship between the LibreOffice community and Ubuntu. At the present time, there is still much organization work to be done within TDF/LibO, and we will perhaps be able to respond to you more meaningfully very soon. I, for one, undertake to follow-up with you, John, Thorsten and the Ubuntu Artwork project, in the very near future. David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [DESIGN] Do we need a separate mailing list for artwork/usability/branding...?
Hi, :-) On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 12:19, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote: Le 2010-11-12 22:04, Michael Wheatland a écrit : Why re-invent the wheel? - David Because google has announced it will be removing the wheel before the end of next year. Google has also open sourced the blueprints for the wheel and made it very easy to construct your own wheel. http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/jalopnik/2009/03/Missing_Wheel.jpg http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/update-on-google-wave.html Many people found Wave too confusing and the learning curve was still to steep for regular users. I belong to groups who tried and it was abandoned. I think Wave was trying to be too much of a cooperative Swiss army knife and forgot that people want simplicity. Google Wave was just a possibility mentioned; I'm not even sure if it would be a popular choice. It's a great tool, but involves a bit of a learning curve for many people. The public Wave service was discontinued earlier this year, IIRC. But it is still offered as a Labs product in Google Apps (I'm talking about Google Apps for domains and organizations). However, whether or not Wave lives on, I feel that Google Apps has a number of other extremely useful tools that TDF/LibO could use, and it was more those wheels I was suggesting that we don't re-invent. :-) David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Logo Enhancements
Hi, :-) On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 17:16, Johannes Bausch johannes.bau...@gmail.com wrote: And when we're at it: Can we sit down and make a LibO logo contest? With a deadline? I suggest the following: +1 for a contest. IMHO, 3 or 4 weeks would be more realistic than 2. But, again IMHO, it will be very difficult to organize in the current state of project governance. David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Logo Enhancements
Hi, :-) IMHO, it would be a good idea to have a competition for the logo choice. It's a good way of attracting new contributors. And aren't Open Source projects supposed to be founded on meritocracy? One of the rules of entry could be that, if their work wins, entrants should be willing to contribute to LibO/TDF in the long-term, and be part of the process of developing and maintaining their material. I agree that a hit-and-run win is not beneficial for the project. But the contact-building I've started with Linux distributions tells me that there are quite a few people out there who'd be willing to do work for LibO. 0.2 cents. David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Logo Enhancements
Hi Graham, :-) On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 06:24, Graham Lauder yori...@openoffice.org wrote: I'm sorry I'm having difficulty debating this in real time, my right arm is still in plaster so it's a little hard to keep up, plaster off on wednesday hopefully. :) Thanks for your thoughts. You seem to be managing fine. I'm sure we'll be able to get the full benefit of your long experience once you can type with two hands again. ;-) David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [COMMUNICATION] Better conferencing? (was: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [DESIGN] Do we need a separate mailing list for artwork/usability/branding...?)
Hi, :-) On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 05:17, Christoph Noack christ...@dogmatux.com wrote: I also thought that Skype chats would be a good alternative until I realized that I had forgotten the mantra that I was trying to perform on the lists where ever needed: many of our users have only dial-up or mobile phone connections. It's true that this is a consideration not to lose sight of. But many Web 2.0 possibilities are out of range for these people. Yet, happily, not the conference calls, however. Very good point! A mailing list is something which does not only work for people with low bandwidth, but also with (temporarily) no Internet connection at all. Many people I know, do work on emails and such stuff when away from home (sitting in a train, on the way to their day jobs, ...). This work offline requirement had already been mentioned by Bernhard. Point taken... But then it's preferable for people to maintain good posting discipline in all respects (proper quoting, etc.). There are people on this list that need frequent reminding about that... ;-) Another thing to have in mind is, that some people do feel uncomfortable when using certain communication channels. For example, in Germany people usually are a bit more cautious when large companies process / own a lot of data (Facebook, Google ... just to name a few). For them it is important to own the data. Yes, this is an important consideration, and a complex topic. But it would be there even if TDF installed OpenMeeting in-house... Possibly more so, in fact, because when the info/interaction is via public services such as Google Apps, Skype, etc., TDF and participants are accepting the provider's terms of service, and the onus of responsibility weighs a *little* less on TDF? It's a subject that could become a long and involved discussion... Quite a number of wishes, or? Well, there is a project that I've been watching since some time ... OpenMeetings [1]. Today, I gave the demo a try (again) and everything worked flawlessly - so might this be something that drives collaboration? In my opinion: Yes. It's a terrific-looking tool, and could be a very good solution... subject to addressing the above-mentioned legal/ethical issues. This may improve things for the website team, the marketing team, the design team, ... What do you think? +1... Thanks for the interesting idea/links. :-) David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] [DESIGN] Do we need a separate mailing list for artwork/usability/branding...?
Hi, :-) On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 19:56, Michael Wheatland mich...@wheatland.com.au wrote: A 'Wave' is an open source federated communication protocol. In 'non-geeklish' we can install a wave server on our server and use either a web based client or desktop clients to access the server. This is a great idea. I will float the idea in the website mailing list and see what kind of response I get. Actually, Michael, I feel that TDF could actually lighten its workload quite a bit by relying on outside services from robust sources such as Google for quite a few things, and would then be able to focus its efforts on deploying and maintaining those things for which it really feels the effort is worthwhile, such as the blog and the wiki. Google Apps provides Wave - and lots of other useful collaboration facilities. Why re-invent the wheel? 0.2 cents. ;-) David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] About Jens Habermann's fine artwork
Hi Jens, :-) I like your septipus :-) [1] The seven tentacles remind me of the different applications packaged in LibO. This character is one that, IMHO, will easily stay in people's minds, too. And it has all the other possibilities of a living mascot. Nice job! Great start, Jens! :-) 1) So that can *become* the logo in its own right? 2) Or else, in large graphics, could one integrate it inside the sheet of paper? 3) Or will Septipus wrap his tentacles *around* the paper sheet? [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Ideas#Jonata.27s_logo.2Fmime_artwork_proposal David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] About Jens Habermann's fine artwork
Hi, :-) On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 05:54, Bernhard Dippold bernh...@familie-dippold.at wrote: For small graphics and icons it might be too detailed if it would be used as our main logo. As an additional graphic it might work, even if I don't feel comfortable with tentacles around the corners of my documents... (wrong association - quite the opposite to libre) I'll post some re-sized versions on the wiki, so we can get an idea of how Septipus looks at diffent sizes. I suspect he might become difficult to clearly distinguish at sizes below 32x32px. (Or 48x48px?) Whether or not Septipus could become the project's prime logo is a something we'd need to sound out here on the marketing/artwork list. (And also maybe with our end users on the [tdf-discuss]/user support lists, too?) However, Septipus could be a great central figure for the LibO starter pane, either as a side graphic or else right in the middle, with a tentacle pointing to each app or icon in the starter pane. Maybe the apps could be in a kind-of circular arrangement around him. Ultimately, I'd suggest naming this mascot LibO. 0.2 cents. David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] [DESIGN] Do we need a separate mailing list for artwork/usability/branding...?
P.S. If it's not already done, I'd recommend that TDF set-up Google Apps for documentfoundation.org and/or libreoffice.org. There's a host of really useful stuff for collaboration, etc. Plus you can fulfill your mail needs without busting your heads configuring and maintaining a mail server. David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Welcome to marketing@libreoffice.org
Hi Andy, :-) Like you, I'm quite new here. IMHO, the best thing is to join a few of the mailing lists, have a look around on the wiki, and wait until you see something that irritates you and makes you want to do something towards changing it. Documentation? Advocacy? Are you interested in developing content for http://test.documentfoundation.org? Get involved in marketing? Organize an install fest? Design graphics (think logo or mascot}? Develop templates? Anyway, welcome onboard. HTH. :-) David Nelson On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 04:12, Andy Rogers li...@andyscomp.f9.co.uk wrote: Dear LibreOffice Marketing Mailing List Im newish to the mailing list for LibreOffice, but I would like to offer some help with LibreOffice in some shape or form going forward (but not programming at the moment). Basically I have been using Linux (mainly ubuntu) for the past 2+ Years and have been looking at trying to get involved in a project to give something back to the Linux community moving forward. I have a very good inside advance of computers in general, and use them day in and day out and this is my number 1 passion in life, and also Linux as my main operating system. I mainly come from an administration background in work, but am moving more and more to my preferred role as IT becomes more utilised in my work place. If you could suggest some areas which I can assist in longterm, or suggestions, or have any questions or need any more information please email me. Im not to sure of how best to start the LibreOffice community but am open for direction to the correct people etc. Thanks Andy On 10 November 2010 20:02, marketing+h...@libreoffice.orgmarketing%2bh...@libreoffice.org wrote: Welcome! You have been subscribed to the marketing@libreoffice.org mailinglist. To unsubscribe send a message to: marketing+unsubscr...@libreoffice.orgmarketing%2bunsubscr...@libreoffice.org And for help send a message to: marketing+h...@libreoffice.org marketing%2bh...@libreoffice.org -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Res: Res: Re: Change icon?
Hi, :-) I'm proactively contacting people with graphic design skills, to try and attract them to join the LibO project. My current source for possible contributors is http://www.csszengarden.com/, where there's a lot of beautiful work showcased. Has anyone got any suggestions about sites and ways to locate potential talents? David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Res: Res: Re: Change icon?
Hi Alex, :-) Thanks for your time on that... I guess that puts a stopper on the paper plane mascot idea then? David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Res: Res: Re: Change icon?
Hi Alex, :-) On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 19:29, Alexander Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com wrote: BTW, I am a lawyer, specialising in intellectual property. While I don't have any obsession with this paper plane concept, it's the only mascot proposal I've yet heard, so I'm just interested to follow the idea through to its logical conclusion: adoption or rejection by the TDF guys. La Poste's logo is actually a bird... any suggestion that it's a plane - paper or otherwise - is actually erroneous. Since *you* are a lawyer and an intellectual property specialist, would there be any chance that *you* could maybe check the copyright status out for us? A big thanks on behalf of the community if so... ;-) David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Res: Res: Re: Change icon?
Hi, :-) I'm hoping that we'll hear back soon from Lucas about the concept he suggested, and I just feel that it would be nice to be supportive of him in the further development of his idea, with constructive discussion, so that it can be placed before TDF for consideration. ;-) David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] About Jens Habermann's fine artwork
Hi again, Jens, :-) May I ask what fonts you're using for 1.1 and for 1.3.1 in [1]? [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Ideas#CMS_.2F_Logo_draft David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Res: Res: Re: Change icon?
Hi, :-) They can certainly copyright their particular version. However, IANAL, but I don't think they can copyright the whole concept of a paper plane in general. Anyway, La Poste? Those guys can hardly stagger out of bed in the morning... I'd be surprised if there would be a problem... Anyway, their logo is in fact a bird, not a plane... David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Transparent backgrounds for logos and graphics
Hi Bernhard, :-) On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 09:37, Bernhard Dippold bernh...@familie-dippold.at wrote: On a colored or darker background a white area behind the logo (rounded corners or even better a rectangle with cut-off right upper corner - we should create such a logo IMHO) could make sense. Thanks for your thoughts. With my own graphics, I usually like to produce one or more versions with an outer glow... generally white, but it might be interesting to experiment using the project's chosen pallet. I'll try this out in a few days time, and will perhaps post something on the wiki for you guys' consideration if the results look any good to me. David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Change icon?
Hi, :-) On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 21:08, Christoph Noack christ...@dogmatux.com wrote: Hi David, Moreover, it would be great if you could link your mail (along with some paper plane considerations) from within the Marketing Ideas page [1] - so it doesn't get lost. [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Ideas Done. ;-) http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Ideas#.22Libo.22_mascot David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] About Jens Habermann's fine artwork
Hi Jens, :-) I've been watching with interest the artwork you've been posting over the weekend on the marketing ideas page [1]. I like the lettering - especially Logo with some more effects and With some organic touch. The Office word looks really good. Thanks for you work on this. Couple of small suggestions, if you'll permit: 1) Would it perhaps be an idea to add a numbering to each version, to make them easy to refer to? 2) While it may not be in your current line of thinking, could you possibly be persuaded to do one or two versions of a mascot-type logo (see [2]), just to give us some to look at and reflect on? [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Ideas#CMS_.2F_Logo_draft [2] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Ideas#.22Libo.22_mascot Just my 0.2 cents. ;-) David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-marketing] Re: About Jens Habermann's fine artwork
P.S. I'm a big fan of Ray Larabie's fonts... any of those inspire you? [1] AFAIK, the many free ones would be OK license-wise. [1] http://www.larabiefonts.com/ David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] About Jens Habermann's fine artwork
P.S. Any chance you could also post your source files, so that one could grab a copy and maybe play around with them? Or will you do that when TDF has chosen a final version that is totally world-ready? David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Website online - question on main structure for art / branding / marketing
Hi, :-) On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 06:44, Bernhard Dippold bernh...@familie-dippold.at wrote: But I'm not really sure for artwork and branding material and definitions. There might be three or four possible areas http://art.libreoffice.org +1 David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Change icon?
Hi, :-) Am Dienstag, den 02.11.2010, 21:31 -0400 schrieb Marc Paré: Before we do this. Is there any business or organization that uses a paper airplane as a logo? I can find a few hours today. Unless anyone's got a better plan, I propose to do a bit of footwork and do some checking to see if the idea is being used by any other organization... That might save Lucas some time while he thinks more about his concept. So I'll report back on this thread later. David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: Change icon?
Hi Lucas guys, :-) I didn't find any usage of paper plane logos/graphics that, IMHO, precludes adopting Lucas Filho's idea. The companies/organizations using a paper plane-based logo probably have less name recognition than LibO can potentially acquire. IANAL, but I imagine there wouldn't be any copyright problem, especially if one came up with something having its own originality. In any case, a sheet of paper is a pretty ubiquitous thing, too, so maybe the same issues would apply to TDF's current logo? Below are some quick research results for your consideration. HTH. David Nelson Paper planes research: === Uses a paper plane in their logo: http://paperplane-studio.blogspot.com/ http://paperplane.net/ http://www.paperplane.co.nz/ http://www.paperplane-creative.co.uk/ Uses paper plane in their name: http://www.paperplanestudio.com/newfiles/paper.html http://www.paperplanemag.com/ http://www.myspace.com/paperplaneproject http://pubget.com/help/paper_plane http://littlepaperplanes.com/ http://www.paperplane.com.au/ (Drupal logo is their favicon...) http://www.paper-plane.fr/ (cloud graphic as logo) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_Planes (might grant permission to use excerpt from their music?) http://www.gotopaperplane.com/ http://www.paperplane.co.nz/ http://paperplaneacademy.com.au/ http://www.paperplane-creative.co.uk/ Uses a paper plane in a prominent graphic: http://paperplane.net/ http://www.funpaperairplanes.com/ http://www.paperplane.com.au/ http://paperplaneacademy.com.au/ Fun stuff about making paper planes: http://www.paperplane.org/ http://www.paperairplanes.co.uk/planes.php http://www.origami-kids.com/ http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2768368762284821227# http://www.amazingpaperairplanes.com/ http://paperairplaneshq.com/ http://www.bestpaperairplanes.com/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/theoffice/planes/ -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Can we put marketing titles under our names?
Hi, :-) On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 21:43, Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com wrote: You are totally right, but setting up the structure is not trivial, and it takes time and energies. We have mailing lists for every major language now, and we are working at the bylaws, which include membership. Wouldn't it be a rational solution to go with the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) or the Free Software Foundation (FSF), which would save you guys re-inventing the wheel for a lot of stuff? Plus they both have great credibility and standing, etc. Plus, plus, plus... David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Change icon?
Hi again, Lucas, :-) Afterthought: why don't you also bring this subject up on the [tdf-discuss] list, where more people can be exposed to your idea? David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Hey
Hi, :-) The discussions in mailing lists are quite easy to follow with a Gmail account. If you don't already use one then I'd recommend creating one even if only for your mailing list subscriptions... HTH. David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Invite a pro graphic artist to contribute logo/icon design [was: Conference call tomorrow]
Hi guys, :-) I just wanted to say a thanks for having listened to my ideas on the ConfCall on Tuesday, and for having explained your own viewpoints. It was interesting, and it was also a pleasure to make your acquaintance. Like I said during the call, I'm going contact some graphic artists myself; after reading Bernhard, notably, in this thread, I have a much clearer idea about how you want collaboration to be organized. Thanks, also, Bernhard, guys, for your time and patience in answering my questions. ;-) David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Conference call tomorrow
Hi Drew, :-) On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 13:45, Drew Jensen d...@baseanswers.com wrote: http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/msg00365.html Added that as a link to the agenda page on the wiki http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/ConfCalls#Agenda Cool, thanks. :-) David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Invite a pro graphic artist to contribute logo/icon design [was: Conference call tomorrow]
Hi Graham, :-) On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 15:12, Graham Lauder yori...@openoffice.org wrote: I would oppose this in the strongest possible terms, when that has been done in the past, the artist, disappears after taking the glory and they are never seen again. The art project became almost irrelevant because contributions were confined to birthday cakes and the occasional brochure and all of the high profile work went to the corporate staff or contractors hired by corporate partners. if they feel strong enough about contributing they will join the community and contribute like the rest of us without the so called generosity of doing it pro bono. We have the chance to build up the art project again by giving people meaningful projects, don't let's screw that up by bringing in fly by nighters. Longstanding contribution to the project should be prerequisite. If I got a green light from you guys to go talent-scouting for graphic artists, I'd certainly prefer to bring home long-term recruits rather than occasional contributors. That being said, some of the highly-talented graphic artists out there might not have the time or inclination to get involved on a permanent basis. Yet, IMHO, it would be sad to refuse freely-contributed work of major value to this community-owned project simply because the person or people are not long-standing club members... Plus, some of the artists out there have made very tangible contributions to free software... Everaldo is only one example with his LinspireClear and CrystalClear icon sets - there are various others too. Some of them truly show a touch of genius in their field. What's more, IMHO, if one were to take a closed-minded attitude about work contributions, one would be walking straight back to the entrenched mind sets that were the among the reasons cited by TDF founders for forking from OOo in the first place... Give some new blood a chance, too? Judge their offerings on their merits? Just my 0.2 cents. :-) David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Invite a pro graphic artist to contribute logo/icon design [was: Conference call tomorrow]
Hi Ivan, :-) On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 18:00, Ivan M. iv...@patentpending.co.nz wrote: ... repeated one-time contributions are unsustainable and damaging, and that was kind of the norm in OOo's Art project. Contributions that introduce large inconsistencies in branding are particularly problematic and unhelpful. snip I hope we can have a collaborative, co-operative and iterative design process when it comes to defining LibreOffice's branding. IMO, anyone coming in to contribute artwork needs to keep that in mind. I understand your concerns. My humble contention is that TDF needs someone/some people with heavyweight artistic flair to produce some really outstanding artwork that sets TDF/LibO apart from the crowd right from the first release of LibO, and that establishes the project's new identity. Of course, it would be perfect if the artist(s) were to become permanent member(s) of the project. But, frequently, established and successful talents shy away from FOSS projects like LibO (because of things like the endless, circular, dogmatic and unproductive discussions on mailing lists, etc. -- the recent choice-of-CMS debate was a typical example). It would be useful to have a comprehensive shopping list of what artwork the project initially needs. As long as the source files are handed over with the necessary rights, perhaps permanent TDF members could handle the subsequent derivations and development themselves. And maybe the original artist(s) would be willing to do further work in the future if the process was facilitated by someone with some Gimp/Photoshop expertise doing liaison? 0.2 cents. :-) David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Invite a pro graphic artist to contribute logo/icon design [was: Conference call tomorrow]
Hi, :-) Just a few questions, after having read Bernhard's reply in a separate thread: 1) Could one see a precise and comprehensive list of all the graphics needed at the present time? 2) What set of standard tools do you want to work with? (Gimp and Inkscape? Anything else?) 3) I saw your first drafts on the wiki [1]. Are your source files downloadable anywhere? 4) Do you plan to keep source files in a revision control repository of some kind? 5) Do you have any kind of team workflow established, described somewhere so that an outsider can get into your rhythm easily? 6) Have you got any schedule figured out, with some completion deadlines? 7) Have you got a list of artwork team members, so that an outsider can know exactly who he/she is collaborating with? 8) Is there a restricted panel of decision takers about acceptance/non-acceptance? I guess that someone willing to work with the team would probably want to establish these things with clarity beforehand... [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Ideas David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Invite a pro graphic artist to contribute logo/icon design [was: Conference call tomorrow]
Hi, :-) Just a couple I forgot: 9) Do you have any standards/guidelines established that you want contributors to adhere to, apart from [1], [2] and [3]? Or are you open to completely different ideas? 10) What license do you require for offered material? GPL? LGPLv2? [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Ideas [2] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Colors [3] http://luxate.blogspot.com/2010/10/united-colors-of-liberty.html David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Conference call tomorrow
Hi, :-) I'd be interested in talking briefly about the idea of getting new logos/graphics designed for the LibO components (Writer, Calc, etc.) by one or more of the highly talented graphic artists to be found on the net. Is this something that is discussable, or have firm choices already been made in this respect? David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Conference call tomorrow
Hi, :-) bernh...@familie-dippold.at wrote: All these ideas are not fixed in any sense, so we should discuss it at the ConfCall today (I'm still not sure if I can manage to participate) and on a new thread... http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/msg00365.html David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-marketing]LibO marketing? [was: t-shirts ...]
Hi, :-) On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:42, Lucas Filho lucas...@yahoo.com.br wrote: I did some tests with the name and logo images for LibreOffice. Look here: http://lh5.ggpht.com/_hohWhG7m3yw/TL0CER52n8I/AbE/0r3EEOQqPc0/s640/libo_test.png For me, the paper plane does not project any associations that I can connect with LibO. The same applies for the winged horse, plus that image could easily become difficult to distinguish at small sizes (such as a favicon, for instance). Difficult to produce derivative images from it... I'd love to see something more colorful, enticing and attractive to the eye. Something that stands out more. Plus, IMHO, there's enormous benefit to be had from creating a mascot to be our ambassador, that can easily be turned into derivative images and animations. Some kind of friendly character like Linux's Tux... Just my 0.2 cents... :-) David Nelson -- E-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: Res: Res: [libreoffice-marketing] t-shirts (and maybe business cards)
Hi, :-) In any case, when you're designing the new logo graphics, can you please make them colorful and pretty? The OpenOffice logo was a bit corporate, conservative and... dowdy... :-) 2 cents. David Nelson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to marketing+h...@libreoffice.org List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/marketing/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted.
