Re: [libreoffice-marketing] call for location 2012

[Florian Effenberger]

Thanks a lot! ;)

Kürti László wrote on 2011-10-06 17:44:

Hi All,

here are my thoughts about organizing the Conf in general as my own experience 
is:
- time is running out fast but sponsorship deals are slow - so start early
- you (TDF) will need a detailed wish list (and a wish-not list)
- you (TDF) should be able to articulate clearly who is responsible for what 
(local team vs TDF)
- mind the PR! this IS the biggest OSS app and community
- both party have to describe theres own goal (why this place is good for the 
Conf and NOT because of the beautiful venue)


Laszlo


- Original Message -
From: "Sophie Gautier"
To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2011 3:50:51 PM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] call for location 2012

Hi all,

As per Florian request, I'm posting here the draft I made, feel free
to add your mandatory items to the list:

On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Simon Phipps  wrote:
[...]


I understood your proposal was to actually announce the new location in Paris. 
I think that's impractical. But I do think it's possible to start the 
call-for-location process now, promote it in Paris, and announce the new 
location in January. The timeline for 2012 would look something like:

September 1st  : Announce the Call for Location for 2012
October 1st:  PR about the process, announce details of the Selection Panel
Paris conference:  Plenary slot explaining the process and timeline
November  15th:  Applications close
December:  Selection Panel reviews applications
January 15th: Location announced

And for 2013:

September 1st: Mention in PR there will be a 2013 selection process
November 15th:  Announce the Call for Location for 2013
January 15th:  Include news of 2013 process in PR
March:  Promote 2013 Call for Location
May 31st: Applications close
June/July: Selection Panel reviews applications
August 30th: 2013 venue announced
October: @013 team attends and helps with 2012 conference





Points to take into account for the next proposal
+ main venue
- easy to access from international transports
- easy to access from accommodations
- at least 2 big rooms for conf hosting + one for meetings/others +
one place for community gathering

+ team
- at least 5 persons are necessary for the whole organization
- one should be dedicated to sponsor relations and to
invitations/visa, administrative tasks (it's very time consuming).
- have a local NGO for expenses and sponsoring and deal with the money

+ it could be along another event, but should have enough room/meeting
points for our own conf

---
Questions for the proposal:
- describe the location
- describe your team
- why would you like to host the conf
- have you local sponsors/organizations
- ?

Kind regards
Sophie


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] call for location 2012

[Kürti László]

Hi All,

here are my thoughts about organizing the Conf in general as my own experience 
is:
- time is running out fast but sponsorship deals are slow - so start early 
- you (TDF) will need a detailed wish list (and a wish-not list)
- you (TDF) should be able to articulate clearly who is responsible for what 
(local team vs TDF)
- mind the PR! this IS the biggest OSS app and community
- both party have to describe theres own goal (why this place is good for the 
Conf and NOT because of the beautiful venue)


Laszlo


- Original Message -
From: "Sophie Gautier" 
To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2011 3:50:51 PM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] call for location 2012

Hi all,

As per Florian request, I'm posting here the draft I made, feel free
to add your mandatory items to the list:

On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Simon Phipps  wrote:
[...]

> I understood your proposal was to actually announce the new location in 
> Paris. I think that's impractical. But I do think it's possible to start the 
> call-for-location process now, promote it in Paris, and announce the new 
> location in January. The timeline for 2012 would look something like:
>
> September 1st  : Announce the Call for Location for 2012
> October 1st:  PR about the process, announce details of the Selection Panel
> Paris conference:  Plenary slot explaining the process and timeline
> November  15th:  Applications close
> December:  Selection Panel reviews applications
> January 15th: Location announced
>
> And for 2013:
>
> September 1st: Mention in PR there will be a 2013 selection process
> November 15th:  Announce the Call for Location for 2013
> January 15th:  Include news of 2013 process in PR
> March:  Promote 2013 Call for Location
> May 31st: Applications close
> June/July: Selection Panel reviews applications
> August 30th: 2013 venue announced
> October: @013 team attends and helps with 2012 conference




Points to take into account for the next proposal
+ main venue
- easy to access from international transports
- easy to access from accommodations
- at least 2 big rooms for conf hosting + one for meetings/others +
one place for community gathering

+ team
- at least 5 persons are necessary for the whole organization
- one should be dedicated to sponsor relations and to
invitations/visa, administrative tasks (it's very time consuming).
- have a local NGO for expenses and sponsoring and deal with the money

+ it could be along another event, but should have enough room/meeting
points for our own conf

---
Questions for the proposal:
- describe the location
- describe your team
- why would you like to host the conf
- have you local sponsors/organizations
- ?

Kind regards
Sophie
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] call for location 2012

[Florian Effenberger]

Hi Sophie,

Sophie Gautier wrote on 2011-10-02 15:50:

As per Florian request, I'm posting here the draft I made, feel free
to add your mandatory items to the list:


thanks a lot for this proposal! I've also forwarded it to last years' 
organizers, since they should have a rather fresh hands-on experience 
and might bring in additional points.


I propose to send out the CfL during the Paris conference.

What do others think?

Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] call for location 2012

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi all,

As per Florian request, I'm posting here the draft I made, feel free
to add your mandatory items to the list:

On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Simon Phipps  wrote:
[...]

> I understood your proposal was to actually announce the new location in 
> Paris. I think that's impractical. But I do think it's possible to start the 
> call-for-location process now, promote it in Paris, and announce the new 
> location in January. The timeline for 2012 would look something like:
>
> September 1st  : Announce the Call for Location for 2012
> October 1st:  PR about the process, announce details of the Selection Panel
> Paris conference:  Plenary slot explaining the process and timeline
> November  15th:  Applications close
> December:  Selection Panel reviews applications
> January 15th: Location announced
>
> And for 2013:
>
> September 1st: Mention in PR there will be a 2013 selection process
> November 15th:  Announce the Call for Location for 2013
> January 15th:  Include news of 2013 process in PR
> March:  Promote 2013 Call for Location
> May 31st: Applications close
> June/July: Selection Panel reviews applications
> August 30th: 2013 venue announced
> October: @013 team attends and helps with 2012 conference

Points to take into account for the next proposal
+ main venue
- easy to access from international transports
- easy to access from accommodations
- at least 2 big rooms for conf hosting + one for meetings/others +
one place for community gathering

+ team
- at least 5 persons are necessary for the whole organization
- one should be dedicated to sponsor relations and to
invitations/visa, administrative tasks (it's very time consuming).
- have a local NGO for expenses and sponsoring and deal with the money

+ it could be along another event, but should have enough room/meeting
points for our own conf

---
Questions for the proposal:
- describe the location
- describe your team
- why would you like to host the conf
- have you local sponsors/organizations
- ?

Kind regards
Sophie
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] call for location 2012

[Florian Effenberger]

Hello,

anybody is willing to work on a draft text for the CfL?

Thanks,
Florian


Simon Phipps wrote on 2011-08-22 13:22:


On 22 Aug 2011, at 11:14, Florian Effenberger wrote:


Hi,

Simon Phipps wrote on 2011-08-21 22:39:

so, you would like to issue the Call for Locations now, i.e. before the Paris 
conference takes place?


Yes, but with a goal of making a decision at the end of the year, not in time 
for Paris.



What do others think? From how I understood previous messages, people prefer to 
wait until after the Paris conference.


I understood your proposal was to actually announce the new location in Paris. 
I think that's impractical. But I do think it's possible to start the 
call-for-location process now, promote it in Paris, and announce the new 
location in January. The timeline for 2012 would look something like:

September 1st  : Announce the Call for Location for 2012
October 1st:  PR about the process, announce details of the Selection Panel
Paris conference:  Plenary slot explaining the process and timeline
November  15th:  Applications close
December:  Selection Panel reviews applications
January 15th: Location announced

And for 2013:

September 1st: Mention in PR there will be a 2013 selection process
November 15th:  Announce the Call for Location for 2013
January 15th:  Include news of 2013 process in PR
March:  Promote 2013 Call for Location
May 31st: Applications close
June/July: Selection Panel reviews applications
August 30th: 2013 venue announced
October: @013 team attends and helps with 2012 conference

S.




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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] call for location 2012

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
+1
This looks smart to me.  I'm not involved but it makes sense to this outsider :)
Regards from
Tom :)




From: Simon Phipps 
To: marketing@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Mon, 22 August, 2011 12:22:39
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] call for location 2012


On 22 Aug 2011, at 11:14, Florian Effenberger wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Simon Phipps wrote on 2011-08-21 22:39:
>> I propose we make a call for location for the 2012/and/  2013 conferences 
>> now, 
>>with a selection deadline of January 2012 for the 2012 event and a selection 
>>deadline of August 2012 for the 2013 event (assuming we keep the date of thee 
>>vent in October each year). We can then in future select the next location 
>>one 
>>year in advance and ensure the current team are able to involve the next team 
>>in 
>>preparations as a learning exercise.
> 
> so, you would like to issue the Call for Locations now, i.e. before the Paris 
>conference takes place?

Yes, but with a goal of making a decision at the end of the year, not in time 
for Paris.

> 
> What do others think? From how I understood previous messages, people prefer 
> to 
>wait until after the Paris conference.

I understood your proposal was to actually announce the new location in Paris. 
I 
think that's impractical. But I do think it's possible to start the 
call-for-location process now, promote it in Paris, and announce the new 
location in January. The timeline for 2012 would look something like:

September 1st  : Announce the Call for Location for 2012
October 1st:  PR about the process, announce details of the Selection Panel
Paris conference:  Plenary slot explaining the process and timeline
November  15th:  Applications close
December:  Selection Panel reviews applications
January 15th: Location announced

And for 2013:

September 1st: Mention in PR there will be a 2013 selection process
November 15th:  Announce the Call for Location for 2013
January 15th:  Include news of 2013 process in PR
March:  Promote 2013 Call for Location
May 31st: Applications close
June/July: Selection Panel reviews applications
August 30th: 2013 venue announced
October: 2013 team attends and helps with 2012 conference

S.
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] call for location 2012

[Simon Phipps]

On 22 Aug 2011, at 11:14, Florian Effenberger wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Simon Phipps wrote on 2011-08-21 22:39:
>> I propose we make a call for location for the 2012/and/  2013 conferences 
>> now, with a selection deadline of January 2012 for the 2012 event and a 
>> selection deadline of August 2012 for the 2013 event (assuming we keep the 
>> date of thee vent in October each year). We can then in future select the 
>> next location one year in advance and ensure the current team are able to 
>> involve the next team in preparations as a learning exercise.
> 
> so, you would like to issue the Call for Locations now, i.e. before the Paris 
> conference takes place?

Yes, but with a goal of making a decision at the end of the year, not in time 
for Paris.

> 
> What do others think? From how I understood previous messages, people prefer 
> to wait until after the Paris conference.

I understood your proposal was to actually announce the new location in Paris. 
I think that's impractical. But I do think it's possible to start the 
call-for-location process now, promote it in Paris, and announce the new 
location in January. The timeline for 2012 would look something like:

September 1st  : Announce the Call for Location for 2012
October 1st:  PR about the process, announce details of the Selection Panel
Paris conference:  Plenary slot explaining the process and timeline
November  15th:  Applications close
December:  Selection Panel reviews applications
January 15th: Location announced

And for 2013:

September 1st: Mention in PR there will be a 2013 selection process
November 15th:  Announce the Call for Location for 2013
January 15th:  Include news of 2013 process in PR
March:  Promote 2013 Call for Location
May 31st: Applications close
June/July: Selection Panel reviews applications
August 30th: 2013 venue announced
October: @013 team attends and helps with 2012 conference

S.


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] call for location 2012

[Florian Effenberger]

Hi,

Simon Phipps wrote on 2011-08-21 22:39:

I propose we make a call for location for the 2012/and/  2013 conferences now, 
with a selection deadline of January 2012 for the 2012 event and a selection 
deadline of August 2012 for the 2013 event (assuming we keep the date of thee 
vent in October each year). We can then in future select the next location one 
year in advance and ensure the current team are able to involve the next team 
in preparations as a learning exercise.


so, you would like to issue the Call for Locations now, i.e. before the 
Paris conference takes place?


What do others think? From how I understood previous messages, people 
prefer to wait until after the Paris conference.


Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] call for location 2012

[Simon Phipps]

On 19 Aug 2011, at 19:47, Florian Effenberger wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Sophie Gautier wrote on 2011-08-17 19:13:
>> As Leif said, it could be good to define the strusture of the call for
>> location now, but make the call much later. There is a lot to define
>> first, and this year conf wil help us even if we are several now to
>> have already organized that kind of event. We can help and share with
>> the next team later on.
> 
> ok - then I propose, given the overall "busy-ness" here, and some important 
> topics on the table (elections, foundation set-up and the like), to indeed 
> wait until the end of the 2011 conference.

I think this is smart. It would have been better to have the 2012 location 
selected in advance of the 2011 conference, but it's not and the time available 
isn't adequate. The event used to have to be in easy travel distance of the 
Hamburg team, but now that's no longer essential I would personally be 
delighted to see the conference held on other continents.

I propose we make a call for location for the 2012 /and/ 2013 conferences now, 
with a selection deadline of January 2012 for the 2012 event and a selection 
deadline of August 2012 for the 2013 event (assuming we keep the date of thee 
vent in October each year). We can then in future select the next location one 
year in advance and ensure the current team are able to involve the next team 
in preparations as a learning exercise.

S.


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] call for location 2012

[Florian Effenberger]

Hi,

Sophie Gautier wrote on 2011-08-17 19:13:

As Leif said, it could be good to define the strusture of the call for
location now, but make the call much later. There is a lot to define
first, and this year conf wil help us even if we are several now to
have already organized that kind of event. We can help and share with
the next team later on.


ok - then I propose, given the overall "busy-ness" here, and some 
important topics on the table (elections, foundation set-up and the 
like), to indeed wait until the end of the 2011 conference.


Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] call for location 2012

[Cor Nouws]

Charles-H. Schulz wrote (17-08-11 19:36)


Well... here's the reason why I was opposing this in the first place.
Maybe it's just my perception but I found the advertisement of the
Paris conference to be a bit weak and I am afraid that moving on to
another conference will blur the message.


It can also be used as yet another link, to get attention for this years 
conference :-)



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] call for location 2012

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi Flo,

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Florian Effenberger
 wrote:
> Hi Leif,
>
> Leif Lodahl wrote on 2011-08-17 17:48:
>
>> The Paris conference is in October and honestly, can we make a decision
>> before that? If not, lets leave it for the moment.
>
> yes and no. I agree that we can spend our time with lots of other important
> things. However, keep in mind that if we wait until the Paris conference is
> over, first the next year's team misses the opportunity to collaborate with
> this year's team, plus the preparation time for the teams gets shorter day
> by day, not to forget the Christmas vacations.

As Leif said, it could be good to define the strusture of the call for
location now, but make the call much later. There is a lot to define
first, and this year conf wil help us even if we are several now to
have already organized that kind of event. We can help and share with
the next team later on.
>
> I'm not saying we need to announce the next year's venue at Paris, but I
> would like to at least start the process.

So we should begin to list things on the wiki.
>
>> My suggestion is that we raise the question for discussion: Should the
>> conference always be in Europe or should we circulate it. Or should we
>> perhaps have a main conference circulating and separate "local"
>> conferences
>> on each continent. Many thoughts could come around, but we can't make a
>> final decision before Paris. In the future it could be a good idea to
>> announce next years revenue on this years conference but not this year.
>
> That's indeed a tough question. I recall it from OpenOffice.org times as
> well. IMHO Louis had the proposal of having a fixed set of countries or even
> cities, amongst several continents, organizing the conference, so people can
> plan and every continent has a chance.
>
> However, looking at last year's proposals, it became harder and harder to
> find a well balanced proposal, with financial support and the like, plus
> reachability by the target audience.
>
> There has also been the proposal of hosting a "RegiCon", a regional
> conference, besides the main conference.
>
> These are indeed proposals we can look into. First, however, I would like to
> see who would like to apply at all. If we only get proposals from, let's say
> Europe and the US, we don't need to think about hosting a conference in
> Asia, because no organizer is there
>
> But, indeed, it's a tough question, I totally agree, and I really would like
> to give everyone a fair chance of participating at our conference, which is
> Europe-centric at the moment.

I think we should start now with the content of the call for location
and what should not be avoided when setting it.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] call for location 2012

[Florian Effenberger]

Hi Leif,

Leif Lodahl wrote on 2011-08-17 17:48:


The Paris conference is in October and honestly, can we make a decision
before that? If not, lets leave it for the moment.


yes and no. I agree that we can spend our time with lots of other 
important things. However, keep in mind that if we wait until the Paris 
conference is over, first the next year's team misses the opportunity to 
collaborate with this year's team, plus the preparation time for the 
teams gets shorter day by day, not to forget the Christmas vacations.


I'm not saying we need to announce the next year's venue at Paris, but I 
would like to at least start the process.



My suggestion is that we raise the question for discussion: Should the
conference always be in Europe or should we circulate it. Or should we
perhaps have a main conference circulating and separate "local" conferences
on each continent. Many thoughts could come around, but we can't make a
final decision before Paris. In the future it could be a good idea to
announce next years revenue on this years conference but not this year.


That's indeed a tough question. I recall it from OpenOffice.org times as 
well. IMHO Louis had the proposal of having a fixed set of countries or 
even cities, amongst several continents, organizing the conference, so 
people can plan and every continent has a chance.


However, looking at last year's proposals, it became harder and harder 
to find a well balanced proposal, with financial support and the like, 
plus reachability by the target audience.


There has also been the proposal of hosting a "RegiCon", a regional 
conference, besides the main conference.


These are indeed proposals we can look into. First, however, I would 
like to see who would like to apply at all. If we only get proposals 
from, let's say Europe and the US, we don't need to think about hosting 
a conference in Asia, because no organizer is there


But, indeed, it's a tough question, I totally agree, and I really would 
like to give everyone a fair chance of participating at our conference, 
which is Europe-centric at the moment.


Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] call for location 2012

[Florian Effenberger]

Hi Charles,

Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2011-08-17 19:36:

Well... here's the reason why I was opposing this in the first place.
Maybe it's just my perception but I found the advertisement of the
Paris conference to be a bit weak and I am afraid that moving on to
another conference will blur the message.

But again, that's just me and I'm maybe just freaking out alone in
front of my screen:-)


I see the concerns, indeed. I think it cannot harm to take into account 
the 2012 conference already now, but I'd like to have some more feedback 
from others on this. I only know my gut feeling ;-)


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] call for location 2012

[Florian Effenberger]

Hi,

Warren Camilleri wrote on 2011-08-17 14:10:

How about Malta?


thanks for the proposal - but please let's wait until we have decided if 
we want to have a call for locations right now at all. We first need to 
define some criteria, and then you can apply. :) Right now, we're just 
discussing if we want to start that process now.


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] call for location 2012

[Leif Lodahl]

Hi all,
The Paris conference is in October and honestly, can we make a decision
before that? If not, lets leave it for the moment.

To propose a conference requires lots of preparations for a local community.
After that it requires a lot of work work and grreat thought from the global
community. One very important question came from Vitorio Furusho, proposing
circulation on different continents.

I from my own point of view would very much like to propose my own country,
but not without some preparations. I need to know if I have financial
support and support from the community etc.

My suggestion is that we raise the question for discussion: Should the
conference always be in Europe or should we circulate it. Or should we
perhaps have a main conference circulating and separate "local" conferences
on each continent. Many thoughts could come around, but we can't make a
final decision before Paris. In the future it could be a good idea to
announce next years revenue on this years conference but not this year.

Until we make a long term decision we could ask for proposals with a
deadline before Paris. Decision could be at new year or something. That
gives us a few months extra time to think.

Just my three cents,


Cheers,
Leif


2011/8/17 Charles-H. Schulz 

> Le Wed, 17 Aug 2011 01:19:02 +0200,
> Florian Effenberger  a écrit :
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2011-08-16 21:46:
> > > I would like to wait until the end of the conference so that it
> > > does not mix with the present messaging... Anybody agree with that?
> >
> > I indeed would like to do the *opposite*, by encouraging local teams
> > to apply soon, to learn from the Paris event already.
> >
> > Florian
> >
>
> Well... here's the reason why I was opposing this in the first place.
> Maybe it's just my perception but I found the advertisement of the
> Paris conference to be a bit weak and I am afraid that moving on to
> another conference will blur the message.
>
> But again, that's just me and I'm maybe just freaking out alone in
> front of my screen :-)
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] call for location 2012

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Le Wed, 17 Aug 2011 01:19:02 +0200,
Florian Effenberger  a écrit :

> Hi,
> 
> Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2011-08-16 21:46:
> > I would like to wait until the end of the conference so that it
> > does not mix with the present messaging... Anybody agree with that?
> 
> I indeed would like to do the *opposite*, by encouraging local teams
> to apply soon, to learn from the Paris event already.
> 
> Florian
> 

Well... here's the reason why I was opposing this in the first place.
Maybe it's just my perception but I found the advertisement of the
Paris conference to be a bit weak and I am afraid that moving on to
another conference will blur the message. 

But again, that's just me and I'm maybe just freaking out alone in
front of my screen :-)

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] call for location 2012

[Cor Nouws]

Vitorio Furusho wrote (17-08-11 14:02)


Excuse me for having early to suggest a site for 2012.

Anyway, I think it would be nice to switch the place of the Conference
LibreOffice in different continents (Americas, Europe, Africa, Asia and
Oceania)


This is an important point to consider. But I guess is has to be in 
balance with attracting the target audience: developers.


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] call for location 2012

[Warren Camilleri]

How about Malta?

The nation is not so strict on VISA applications, and we now have biometric 
passports, which is great for the US and Aussies, Malta is also a Schengen 
country meaning most nations may not even need to show a passport to enter, 
our goverment is working on bringing International IT communities and 
companies to Malta (namely for smartcity and its SMARTplan), hence i think, 
that if you do choose Malta, we need to write a document to declare where 
the event will be and roughly how many member may be coming, that way the 
Maltese government could update its embassies for a faster issue of visa.


not only that there are alot of low cost airlines to the Maltese islands, 
besides that if you manage to organize for may,june you may be in the week 
of the ISLE of MTV, now i know we're all serious about the project, but we 
could mix in some fun?


in case its for the same time next year there is always the Maltese night 
life in Saint Julian's, how ever i do suggest a more summer month for the 
fact that Malta would have lots of nationalities here for learning English, 
cultural studies and much more.


Besides that we have a very rich history, and this event may also be 
sponsored by the government, should the TDF like to make an agreement with 
the government on Office software.


here's a list of local OSS groups:

ossmalta.com - which is mine
Linux.org.mt - which i am a member of since its the Malta Linux User group - 
though i use more windows for adobe products
oss.org.mt - Goverment of malta open source end user group (i know a mouth 
full of a name)




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look http://bitw.in/Npl and http://bitw.in/Npn and draw their conclusions

On 16 August 2011 23:25, Danishka Navin  wrote:


On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 5:20 AM, Takaaki Higuchi
wrote:

> I agree with Florian on this point.
> In this kind of international conferences, it is often announced where
> the next year
> event will be held at the end of the conference this year.
> So if we have enough resources, we'd better starting next year plan now.
>
>
+1


 the jury must response to all of applicants after selecting a location. 
(I

applied with the help of local institute in 2010 but the conference
selection comity did not mentioned why they were refused choose my
application.)

Since this is a global community it would be better select a location for
the 2012 event out of Europe (this year  2011-France , 2010-Hungeria). But
we need to think about VISA issues as well. Some of the countries very
strict on issuing visiting VISA.



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] call for location 2012

[Vitorio Furusho]

hi,


Excuse me for having early to suggest a site for 2012.

Anyway, I think it would be nice to switch the place of the Conference
LibreOffice in different continents (Americas, Europe, Africa, Asia and
Oceania)

Thanks,

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2011/8/16 Klaibson Ribeiro 

> look http://bitw.in/Npl and http://bitw.in/Npn and draw their conclusions
>
> On 16 August 2011 23:25, Danishka Navin  wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 5:20 AM, Takaaki Higuchi
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I agree with Florian on this point.
> > > In this kind of international conferences, it is often announced where
> > > the next year
> > > event will be held at the end of the conference this year.
> > > So if we have enough resources, we'd better starting next year plan
> now.
> > >
> > >
> > +1
> >
> >
> >  the jury must response to all of applicants after selecting a location.
> (I
> > applied with the help of local institute in 2010 but the conference
> > selection comity did not mentioned why they were refused choose my
> > application.)
> >
> > Since this is a global community it would be better select a location for
> > the 2012 event out of Europe (this year  2011-France , 2010-Hungeria).
> But
> > we need to think about VISA issues as well. Some of the countries very
> > strict on issuing visiting VISA.
> >
> >
> >
> > Best Regards,
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] call for location 2012

[Klaibson Ribeiro]

look http://bitw.in/Npl and http://bitw.in/Npn and draw their conclusions

On 16 August 2011 23:25, Danishka Navin  wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 5:20 AM, Takaaki Higuchi
> wrote:
>
> > I agree with Florian on this point.
> > In this kind of international conferences, it is often announced where
> > the next year
> > event will be held at the end of the conference this year.
> > So if we have enough resources, we'd better starting next year plan now.
> >
> >
> +1
>
>
>  the jury must response to all of applicants after selecting a location. (I
> applied with the help of local institute in 2010 but the conference
> selection comity did not mentioned why they were refused choose my
> application.)
>
> Since this is a global community it would be better select a location for
> the 2012 event out of Europe (this year  2011-France , 2010-Hungeria). But
> we need to think about VISA issues as well. Some of the countries very
> strict on issuing visiting VISA.
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
> --
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] call for location 2012

[Danishka Navin]

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 5:20 AM, Takaaki Higuchi
wrote:

> I agree with Florian on this point.
> In this kind of international conferences, it is often announced where
> the next year
> event will be held at the end of the conference this year.
> So if we have enough resources, we'd better starting next year plan now.
>
>
+1


 the jury must response to all of applicants after selecting a location. (I
applied with the help of local institute in 2010 but the conference
selection comity did not mentioned why they were refused choose my
application.)

Since this is a global community it would be better select a location for
the 2012 event out of Europe (this year  2011-France , 2010-Hungeria). But
we need to think about VISA issues as well. Some of the countries very
strict on issuing visiting VISA.



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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] call for location 2012

[Takaaki Higuchi]

I agree with Florian on this point.
In this kind of international conferences, it is often announced where
the next year
event will be held at the end of the conference this year.
So if we have enough resources, we'd better starting next year plan now.

regards,
Takaaki Higuchi

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 8:19 AM, Florian Effenberger
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2011-08-16 21:46:
>> I would like to wait until the end of the conference so that it does not mix
>> with the present messaging... Anybody agree with that?
>
> I indeed would like to do the *opposite*, by encouraging local teams to
> apply soon, to learn from the Paris event already.
>
> Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] call for location 2012

[Florian Effenberger]

Hi,

Charles-H. Schulz wrote on 2011-08-16 21:46:
> I would like to wait until the end of the conference so that it does not mix
> with the present messaging... Anybody agree with that?

I indeed would like to do the *opposite*, by encouraging local teams to
apply soon, to learn from the Paris event already.

Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] call for location 2012

[Kostas Mousafiris]

Στις 16/08/2011 10:49 μμ, ο/η Paulo de Souza Lima έγραψε:
> Yes, please!
>
> 2011/8/16 Charles-H. Schulz 
>
>> I would like to wait until the end of the conference so that it does not
>> mix
>> with the present messaging... Anybody agree with that?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Charles.
>> Le 16 août 2011 21:28, "Vitorio Furusho"  a écrit
>> :
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I would suggest Brazil, Paraná state and the city of Foz do Iguaçu.
>>>
>>> More precisely PTI - Itaipu Technological Park. The place is held
>> Latinoware
>>> .
>>>
>>> It is an attractive place and has international airport and has good
>>> infrastructure of hotels.
>>>
>>> It is a beautiful place: http://miud.in/TB5
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> *Furusho, Vitorio*
>>> Ativista de Software Livre, LibreOffice e ODF
>>> ODF Alliance Award<
>> http://www.odfalliance.org/blog/index.php/site/odf_alliance_awards/>
>>> Free Software Furusho 
>>> LibreOffice 
>>> Membro da The Document Foundation <
>> http://www.documentationfoundation.org/
>>>
>>>
>>> 2011/8/16 Florian Effenberger 
>>>
 Hello,

 although we are right before the 2011 LibOCon, I think it would be
>> helpful
 for the 2012 team to be on site and work jointly with this years'
 organizers. This has been proven very well in the past.

 So, shall we draft a call for location for 2012 already?

 Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] call for location 2012

[Paulo de Souza Lima]

Yes, please!

2011/8/16 Charles-H. Schulz 

> I would like to wait until the end of the conference so that it does not
> mix
> with the present messaging... Anybody agree with that?
>
> Thanks,
> Charles.
> Le 16 août 2011 21:28, "Vitorio Furusho"  a écrit
> :
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I would suggest Brazil, Paraná state and the city of Foz do Iguaçu.
> >
> > More precisely PTI - Itaipu Technological Park. The place is held
> Latinoware
> > .
> >
> > It is an attractive place and has international airport and has good
> > infrastructure of hotels.
> >
> > It is a beautiful place: http://miud.in/TB5
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > *Furusho, Vitorio*
> > Ativista de Software Livre, LibreOffice e ODF
> > ODF Alliance Award<
> http://www.odfalliance.org/blog/index.php/site/odf_alliance_awards/>
> > Free Software Furusho 
> > LibreOffice 
> > Membro da The Document Foundation <
> http://www.documentationfoundation.org/
> >
> >
> >
> > 2011/8/16 Florian Effenberger 
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> although we are right before the 2011 LibOCon, I think it would be
> helpful
> >> for the 2012 team to be on site and work jointly with this years'
> >> organizers. This has been proven very well in the past.
> >>
> >> So, shall we draft a call for location for 2012 already?
> >>
> >> Florian
> >>
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] call for location 2012

[Charles-H. Schulz]

I would like to wait until the end of the conference so that it does not mix
with the present messaging... Anybody agree with that?

Thanks,
Charles.
Le 16 août 2011 21:28, "Vitorio Furusho"  a écrit :
> Hi all,
>
> I would suggest Brazil, Paraná state and the city of Foz do Iguaçu.
>
> More precisely PTI - Itaipu Technological Park. The place is held
Latinoware
> .
>
> It is an attractive place and has international airport and has good
> infrastructure of hotels.
>
> It is a beautiful place: http://miud.in/TB5
>
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> 2011/8/16 Florian Effenberger 
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> although we are right before the 2011 LibOCon, I think it would be
helpful
>> for the 2012 team to be on site and work jointly with this years'
>> organizers. This has been proven very well in the past.
>>
>> So, shall we draft a call for location for 2012 already?
>>
>> Florian
>>
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] call for location 2012

[Florian Effenberger]

Wait, wait...
At the moment, we are discussing, whether we should issue a call for 
location for 2012.
We need to define a set of criteria, a jury and a deadline, and then 
organizers can apply. That's the way it should work ;)


João Fernando wrote on 2011-08-16 21:34:

I agree with Furusho. Foz do Iguaçu it's a wonderful place and have all the
necessary structure.


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] call for location 2012

[João Fernando]

I agree with Furusho. Foz do Iguaçu it's a wonderful place and have all the
necessary structure.

2011/8/16 Vitorio Furusho 

> Hi all,
>
> I would suggest Brazil, Paraná state and the city of Foz do Iguaçu.
>
> More precisely PTI - Itaipu Technological Park. The place is held
> Latinoware
> .
>
> It is an attractive place and has international airport and has good
> infrastructure of hotels.
>
> It is a beautiful place: http://miud.in/TB5
>
> Regards,
>
> *Furusho, Vitorio*
> Ativista de Software Livre, LibreOffice e ODF
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> http://www.odfalliance.org/blog/index.php/site/odf_alliance_awards/>
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>
>
> 2011/8/16 Florian Effenberger 
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > although we are right before the 2011 LibOCon, I think it would be
> helpful
> > for the 2012 team to be on site and work jointly with this years'
> > organizers. This has been proven very well in the past.
> >
> > So, shall we draft a call for location for 2012 already?
> >
> > Florian
> >
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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] call for location 2012

[Vitorio Furusho]

Hi all,

I would suggest Brazil, Paraná state and the city of Foz do Iguaçu.

More precisely PTI - Itaipu Technological Park. The place is held Latinoware
.

It is an attractive place and has international airport and has good
infrastructure of hotels.

It is a beautiful place: http://miud.in/TB5

Regards,

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2011/8/16 Florian Effenberger 

> Hello,
>
> although we are right before the 2011 LibOCon, I think it would be helpful
> for the 2012 team to be on site and work jointly with this years'
> organizers. This has been proven very well in the past.
>
> So, shall we draft a call for location for 2012 already?
>
> Florian
>
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