Results and reviews from Conference in Panama
During the past week I was able to participate in the events in Panama previously mentioned on a past email[1]. The event was a double participation about Free Software development in central america and Panama (the host country). It included a series of talks along side other speakers like Mozilla Foundation reps and Foundations from Spain and other areas of the spanish speaking community. My conference titled Governance and participation in Free software communities was invitive to many of the people including college officials and people interested in how communities work in the open source ecosystem. The conference was recorded and is now available on youtube here[2]. The second event was a panel-style participation in City of Knowledge, Panama, and the panel talk around the topics of Free software as a medium for innovation and sustentability. The conference was not video recorded but some audio clips were put together and also available in youtube[3]. Both events were given in Spanish and I think it would be important to have some kind of vehicle to empower the community to attend these events with the help of the Apache foundation. This is a marketing task that help people get more information about our project and potentiate it's deployments and contributions to the project. [1]: http://markmail.org/thread/zwan2ewdgrzwpoet [2]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GGPMjW_SPE [3]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AZ1edDdQvg -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: page error
Seems this is the original article. http://idealware.org/articles/comparing-microsoft-office-open-source-alternatives Its under creative commons but I think there should be some attribution back to the article, and also mentioned that was taken from them for marketing/branding porpouses. On 9/5/14, Roger Yost roger.y...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe add an email link on the marketing pages to you guys -- Forwarded message -- From: Roger Yost roger.y...@gmail.com Date: Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 7:41 PM Subject: page error To: b_michael...@openoffice.org at: https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/MicrosoftOffice_vs_OpenOffice the page ends mid sentence - likely some material got clobbered. -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: What are we doing about Munich?
On 8/24/14, Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.de wrote: From: acolor...@gmail.com [mailto:acolor...@gmail.com] On And that's part of the problem. We need AOO-german nationals to work on transfering that communication into english (not only translate but present it). Otherwise we are behind a language paywall (and yes I know Gtranslate is good for german but still is more than translation) is context. Yes, but there is also another way of viewing: local working is local and each of interested in it, must get involved locally. I know a lot about OpenOffice, but sorry, I'm not a translator and translations are hard work for me, and make me not fun. Yes but the damage most time is NOT local. And that makes us act globally and locally. There was a big misstransalation of the news mainly because of sensationalist titles that affect the global perception of Open source (not just OpenOffice). However we are target and we want to clear as much of the fog created by sensationalism and also misstransaltions. Having germans write up (in english) like you are doing right now allow us to have a clearer image of the situation. Unfortunately we dont have much community involvement by the IT people from the Munich council here, which could help us to even clear even more the communication pipes. That said, AOO has the biggest voice, since we can launch a campaing and will target enterprise costumers on what the real details and why AOO has succeed in Munich despite the somewhat erroneous news. Please understand me correctly, I mean that it is a practical question weigh up how to get to the greatest possible success, is often the part of the international community be possible, but sometimes it's better to focus on local possibilities. It is for many of the employees at AOO interested, an important detail, the language in which they have to perform the communication. If they need to perform communication in English they will not participate, because they too difficult. People at the TDF are very active in germany marketing team, yet in AOO camp, marketing hasn't been a priority which bring us back to questioning what's the aim of AOO for pushing it's brand value into organizations. Unfortunately Apache cares a lot about avoiding being un-represented more than the succes of the project. I think is important to evaluate the future of AOO beyond the scope of development. I read it several times, but am not safe what you mean. Do you mean good public relations work for AOO is equally important as good programming? Then I agree with you. Greetings, Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: What are we doing about Munich?
On 8/24/14, Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.de wrote: From: acolor...@gmail.com [mailto:acolor...@gmail.com] On Yes but the damage most time is NOT local. And that makes us act globally and locally. There was a big misstransalation of the news mainly because of sensationalist titles that affect the global perception of Open source (not just OpenOffice). However we are target and we want to clear as much of the fog created by sensationalism and also misstransaltions. Having germans write up (in english) like you are doing right now allow us to have a clearer image of the situation. Unfortunately we dont have much community involvement by the IT people from the Munich council here, which could help us to even clear even more the communication pipes. That said, AOO has the biggest voice, since we can launch a campaing and will target enterprise costumers on what the real details and why AOO has succeed in Munich despite the somewhat erroneous news. You mean that not at all members of the AOO community know what it is in Munich and we therefore need translations so the situation is understandable? If so, I have been misunderstood, because I believed the situation in Munich would generally (and internationally) known. In the event that it would matter the situation in Munich to make it clear I could even write something about it, because to me the situation is well known. Would it be quite useful to do that? Perhaps as a blog post in https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/? If you havent really read all the articles, the media is backpedalling from what it was a greatly missconstrude headline news. This article introduce some corrections: http://www.techrepublic.com/article/no-munich-isnt-about-to-ditch-free-software-and-move-back-to-windows/ Of course a week later after the news broke and like we all know, the public end up with the first impressions. Greetings, Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: What are we doing about Munich?
A most wanted work is the tracking and documentation of success stories Eric tenenbaum used to do this work on the wiki. Please search for success stories On Aug 24, 2014 12:41 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Jörg Schmidt wrote: I believed the situation in Munich would generally (and internationally) known. Not necessarily. For example, I casually read, on mainstream news, that Munich was going back to Windows (and amusingly I had read about Munich adopting LIMUX only from specialized sites). No further clarifications after it. So I am definitely one of the people who would benefit from a competent writeup. I could even write something about it, because to me the situation is well known. Would it be quite useful to do that? Perhaps as a blog post in https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/? Please do. If you don't have the rights to publish it, someone (including me) can surely publish it for you. public relations work for AOO is equally important as good programming? Then I agree with you. And I agree with you both too. Fact is, we do have good programmers (even more than good, for that matter), but we don't have people very active and competent in marketing. This is the marketing list and indeed the level of activity should be much higher than what I'm seeing now; but it all depends on individuals participating on this list. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: What are we doing about Munich?
On 8/24/14, Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.de wrote: From: acolor...@gmail.com [mailto:acolor...@gmail.com] On If you havent really read all the articles, the media is backpedalling from what it was a greatly missconstrude headline news. I have read many articles, although certainly not read all. Above all, I know the situation in Munich very well, because I worked for 4 years personally in the LIMUX-project. I know e.g. all application scenarios where Munich OpenOffice uses, so the concrete implemented macro solutions and technical applications based on Open Office. I also know the political context in Germany the background against which the development takes place in Munich. I have very good ties with the people from The Linux Action Show podcast[1], they were talking about this issue in Germany and would be interested if you could be a guest for interview about the situation and maybe help get more knowlege on what happened. If you are available maybe there could work withing your schedule for a live interview during their show. I include chris (the host of the podcast) to figure out the details. [1] http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/show/linuxactionshow/ Greetings, Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: What are we doing about Munich?
On 8/23/14, Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.de wrote: From: acolor...@gmail.com [mailto:acolor...@gmail.com] On Is there any documentation, reports, or things that can serve as a research material for people outside of germany. (blog posts, articles, discussions, prefferably in english) I know on this issue unfortunately only German-language materials, for example: http://www.muenchen.de/rathaus/Stadtverwaltung/Direktorium/LiMux.html http://www.it-muenchen-blog.de/2013/12/limux-project-graduation-software-evolution-has-be-bewahrt/ And that's part of the problem. We need AOO-german nationals to work on transfering that communication into english (not only translate but present it). Otherwise we are behind a language paywall (and yes I know Gtranslate is good for german but still is more than translation) is context. a lot of links on wikipedia: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiMux We can start working on some online campaign, raise a website, create some open discussions about what is happening in germany. I think this is not particularly effective. Important would be directly to the city of Munich, the influence this makes their decision for LibreOffice reversed. Currently, the city of Munich announced OpenOffice to replace LibreOffice, starting from September 2014th For example, see: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/LiMux-Muenchner-Stadtspitze-stellt-gesamte-IT-nebst-Linux-auf-den-Pruefstand-2301369.html ...plant, die rund 15.000 unter Linux laufenden Rechner von September an auf das LibreOffice-Paket umzustellen und so auch die Interoperabilität mit der Microsoft-Welt zu verbessern. Translation by Google: ... plans to convert the 15,000 running Linux hosts from September to the LibreOffice package and thus to improve interoperability with the Microsoft world. People at the TDF are very active in germany marketing team, yet in AOO camp, marketing hasn't been a priority which bring us back to questioning what's the aim of AOO for pushing it's brand value into organizations. Unfortunately Apache cares a lot about avoiding being un-represented more than the succes of the project. I think is important to evaluate the future of AOO beyond the scope of development. Greetings, Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Updated download stats
On 8/1/14, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Fri, 1 Aug 2014 13:47:49 -0400 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: I've updated our stats page with the data for July: http://www.openoffice.org/stats/downloads.html The new total is 112,491,971. I'd expect a big pickup in volume in a few weeks, as students start returning to school. I wonder if a student-focused blog post might be good? For example, post on The Top 10 OpenOffice Templates for Students or something like that? Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org Important to make two points 1) OO is _not_ a Word clone; it can handle most straightforward formatting in .doc files. Macro language differs. From a marketing point of view is better to say what we are than what we are not. For example: Apache OpenOffice is a completely independent office suite with no dependencies with other office suites in the market. 2) ONLY download from www.openoffice.org/download which has redirection to SourceForge servers. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Funds for speaker to Central America Free Software event
Hello, the ECSL (Central American Free Software Summit) send me an invitation to give a keynote at their event. The organizers asked me if there is a way Apache can cover partially the travel or boarding expenses. We have talked about this before on the list, but it seems no straight process is defined at the moment so I am also unsure about what support is expected from the foundation. Or what is needed at the moment. Regards. -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Any AOO on LinuxTag? others?
On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.orgwrote: On 08/05/2014 Alexandro Colorado wrote: I wonder how much participation are we having participation on the world wide events and if we are coordinating boots about it. I've just answered a mail on the dev list about this: http://markmail.org/message/t4ucngkjexk6ozga (European events, mostly in Germany). Some events: - LinuxTags - NortWestern LinuxFest - CeBit - OSCON - SCALE - Ohio LinuxFest - FLISOL - Software Freedom Day - CampusParty - FISL - Latinoware - CNSL Some are covered there. Some are not. Some I never heard about, but of course I'm more familiar with European events. Do we have funding to get swag about it? What about airfaire for speakers? Would we ever have it? Is there any marketing strategy to participate along other FLOSS events. You can see the whole thread at http://markmail.org/message/ 62t63x4m5raumg3u for the process. But basically we do have funding for events, subject to approval on the dev list. If you propose a design and a budget, we can discuss and approve it on the dev list. It is rarer that we allocate money for travels. This usually happens when OpenOffice has a strong presence at an event, such as a whole day track like at ApacheCon or FOSDEM. And, even in those cases, we put a capping on the travel reimbursements, that was 200 EUR (~250$) for FOSDEM; but nobody was reimbursed for that event. Apache being a US based organization should have a different arragement for traveling withing the US which usually are longer distances than Europe. Are you aware how other organizations within Apache handle this? Regards. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Re: Preparing for interview on Chilean TV show
On 5/18/14, James Grenier greni...@middlesex.mass.edu wrote: Thank you, Andrea, that is helpful. Is there enough need for this that we should explore having contacts by country/language again? Or was that too cumbersome a process? The MarCon structure was detailed on the outdated marketing plan, I think it still lives on the mwiki, under Marketing Project-Maketing Contacts: https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Strategic_Marketing_Plan#Marketing_Objectives The process wasn't cumbersome, however it required a more active and organized marketing area of the project, starting with a lot of gathered information on 'the userbase', events, etc. J. M. Grenier, M.Ed. Faculty, Business and Humanities greni...@middlesex.mass.edu Cell: (339)222-1442 All religions, arts and sciences are branches of the same tree - Albert Einstein From: Andrea Pescetti [pesce...@apache.org] Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 4:47 AM To: marketing@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Preparing for interview on Chilean TV show On 18/05/2014 Alexandro Colorado wrote: On 5/17/14, James Grenier wrote: Is there an official spokesperson who should be referred to if members of the mainstream or new media ask? MarCons used to be them (Marketing Contacts). I used to be one for Spanish countries on the OOo days. At the moment we have the press e-mail address for all media inquiries (and indeed we have no other structure). See http://openoffice.apache.org/press.html Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Preparing for interview on Chilean TV show
Hi James On 5/17/14, James Grenier greni...@middlesex.mass.edu wrote: Do we have a one-sheet with talking points for those being interviewed? I am being interviewed. I will mainly talk about my contributions, the general structure of AOO, how to contribute, and the importance of Apache OpenOffice in the larger Free Software ecosystem. Is there an official spokesperson who should be referred to if members of the mainstream or new media ask? MarCons used to be them (Marketing Contacts). I used to be one for Spanish countries on the OOo days. I think marketing project for AOO still have to get some documentation of its tructure and way of operations. Whenever we want MarCons again, or other scheme we want to follow is up for discussion. J. M. Grenier, M.Ed. Faculty, Business and Humanities greni...@middlesex.mass.edu Cell: (339)222-1442 All religions, arts and sciences are branches of the same tree - Albert Einstein From: Rob Weir [robw...@apache.org] Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 2:24 PM To: marketing@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Preparing for interview on Chilean TV show On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: I would be interview next week about the Apache OpenOffice community for this TV show from Chile. The usual questions would be the history of Apache OpenOffice/OpenOffice.org, the current state of the community, the size of the latinamerican/spanish community. It's growth rate, and companies currently using Apache OpenOffice. I would like to forward these questions and see if I can get some information about this. You can refer to this page for download numbers by country. It shows, for example, 308K downloads from Chile. http://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html -Rob Regards. -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Preparing for interview on Chilean TV show
I would be interview next week about the Apache OpenOffice community for this TV show from Chile. The usual questions would be the history of Apache OpenOffice/OpenOffice.org, the current state of the community, the size of the latinamerican/spanish community. It's growth rate, and companies currently using Apache OpenOffice. I would like to forward these questions and see if I can get some information about this. Regards. -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Any AOO on LinuxTag? others?
I wonder how much participation are we having participation on the world wide events and if we are coordinating boots about it. Some events: - LinuxTags - NortWestern LinuxFest - CeBit - OSCON - SCALE - Ohio LinuxFest - FLISOL - Software Freedom Day - CampusParty - FISL - Latinoware - CNSL Do we have funding to get swag about it? What about airfaire for speakers? Would we ever have it? Is there any marketing strategy to participate along other FLOSS events. -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Anyone near Madrid for a talk on Apache OpenOffice?
The event most likely be with technologist and they might understand english enough. But I will just ask them directly if they are ok with non-spanish speakers. I have been to many events in Spain, all of them had non-spanish speakers, and all of them were FLOSS related. I'll forward your information. On 5/7/14, jan i j...@apache.org wrote: Hi. I am based in spain 2hours with AVE from madrid. However talks are most likely in spanish, and a big audience and my spanish might not be the best representation. rgds jan I. On 6 May 2014 23:06, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I was contacted through linkedin (http://mx.linkedin.com/in/alexandrocolorado) to participate in an Open source event in Madrid, however for lack of funding, they are not able to cover my airfare/hotel. Instead they asked me if I knew someone from the Madrid area with availability to talk about Apache OpenOffice. I am forwarding the information of the event: http://www.openexpo.es/madrid - -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQGcBAEBAgAGBQJTaU7SAAoJEB23nRx/TCYUgDYMAJElnM04IUdqBhkd1z5weaIx SYjcpJGGzbZhXgFoEKp5cFIHMe6h5ShGm+BgDAGdU8ROQl4cTKX1eAyRKfKdhJes WeeqVMg0HRShfEK+lAsdkO/4WyoQ1Ji+8k/2+4pcXBT4T5siDnxiHTP7zxs+NB0/ qS6MW+43ZiEUUYS+Homd+7wW2GlTofRt0FNHMiQmFx1ngtMwnuhKyyJXbqU0HG1y iUh6jF5UBJ9ue6CLJBpLTE8mKIXssRcSkuMxrUuyGorOPpyWz4Y0492DIp/O192X QjDnPolCPxx/bzrEdjsSFogdHBLkvYWZfT665Et1JnzyrOjJcuR9UuPjTeH+TClm MDgSky4ZYwK7m9fkfNz41TB609ER1xAD6rc7C2o2TfkYGFyc9p31epr0mZ8PLk5L m734kdFcrF9/L7kYXQ4tiDui7Qdp5YBeFUgIALaDDrMQMYJzvPG5y1uU9mH9BiAw s/QR4pvUMQvmGQ01xugVVpcbZOcVOT1J0XXkEGDrjA== =6SDV -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Anyone near Madrid for a talk on Apache OpenOffice?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I was contacted through linkedin (http://mx.linkedin.com/in/alexandrocolorado) to participate in an Open source event in Madrid, however for lack of funding, they are not able to cover my airfare/hotel. Instead they asked me if I knew someone from the Madrid area with availability to talk about Apache OpenOffice. I am forwarding the information of the event: http://www.openexpo.es/madrid - -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQGcBAEBAgAGBQJTaU7SAAoJEB23nRx/TCYUgDYMAJElnM04IUdqBhkd1z5weaIx SYjcpJGGzbZhXgFoEKp5cFIHMe6h5ShGm+BgDAGdU8ROQl4cTKX1eAyRKfKdhJes WeeqVMg0HRShfEK+lAsdkO/4WyoQ1Ji+8k/2+4pcXBT4T5siDnxiHTP7zxs+NB0/ qS6MW+43ZiEUUYS+Homd+7wW2GlTofRt0FNHMiQmFx1ngtMwnuhKyyJXbqU0HG1y iUh6jF5UBJ9ue6CLJBpLTE8mKIXssRcSkuMxrUuyGorOPpyWz4Y0492DIp/O192X QjDnPolCPxx/bzrEdjsSFogdHBLkvYWZfT665Et1JnzyrOjJcuR9UuPjTeH+TClm MDgSky4ZYwK7m9fkfNz41TB609ER1xAD6rc7C2o2TfkYGFyc9p31epr0mZ8PLk5L m734kdFcrF9/L7kYXQ4tiDui7Qdp5YBeFUgIALaDDrMQMYJzvPG5y1uU9mH9BiAw s/QR4pvUMQvmGQ01xugVVpcbZOcVOT1J0XXkEGDrjA== =6SDV -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: ping
Finally got the ML to reply to it, seems there was some odd code on the header generated by the ML that was labeled as SPAM by the spamassasin. On 4/6/14, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: We play to a score of 11, yes? -Rob On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Fabrizio Bury fabriziob...@gmail.com wrote: pong 2014-04-05 18:17 GMT+02:00 simon peter Neves Pedro simonpeter.nevespe...@gmail.com: pong On 5 April 2014 01:45, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: ping -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Simon Peter Neves Pedro - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
ping
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Re: Marketing - Apache logo
On Sat, 15 Feb 2014 03:31:56 -0600, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 10/02/2014 RA Stehmann wrote: I've got a little parcel from America. A lot of stickers with the Apache logo. In Brussels they run very well. I hope in Chemnitz etc. also. Good news, and remember that if you need OpenOffice-branded materials too (for giving away at events) we have a budget available for events. Of course, we will need a design and information about costs. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org There is the anual series of event in LatinAmerica comming through on april 26. I am a national coordinator for mexico and also participate on the international mailing list. I could send the word out about how to request these stickers. As a coordinator of my local chapter in Cancun, expecting around 100-150 people comming through, would be great to have an AOO stickers available. The event is FLISOL (Festival Latinoamericano de Instalacion de Software Libre) or Latinamerican Free Software Installfest. Would be good to have a wikipage on how the coordinators can get in touch with the AOO community in order to get them. -- Alexandro Colorado OpenOffice Commiter - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Skills, Resources and Mentors
Verify you are registered to the wiki. -- Sent from my Nokia N900 On Tue Oct 1 00:53:51 2013 Sonik Satapathy s.soni...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I wanted to include my name in certain areas of my interest,but couldn't edit the table.Can somebody tell me how to do it ? Thanks, Sonik On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 3:13 AM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: This projects depends on volunteer efforts. We have many routine tasks that need to be performed during a release cycle and even during ordinarily operation of our website and other public-facing services. In many cases a given task is well-understood and many members of the project understand how to do it. For example, moderating the mailing lists. In other areas we might only have a single person who really understands how to do a task. We also have many volunteers, signing up on the mailing list and asking how to help, on nearly a daily basis. There should be a way that we can more clearly identify what the routine tasks are, who knows how to do them, who wants to learn how to do them, and who is willing to mentor or teach others how to get started. So I've started the following wiki page to track some of the most common tasks in the project: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Skills,+Resources+and+Mentors Feel free to insert additional tasks, or to add your name as an expert, mentor or someone who wants to learn. (Of course there are many other routine tasks performed by Apache Infra and not listed here. I'm focused on the tasks that are owned by the AOO project) This might also help is identify areas where we are currently dependent on a single person and want to train a backup, to cover for holidays, etc. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org I think this is lovely idea but I'm a bit confused over what you mean by Learning Resources -- are you thinking people, or web resources or ??? Thanks. -- - MzK Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't. -- Following the Equator, Mark Twain
Re: Starting Intro to Marketing Module
Hello Michele welcome to the marketing list, please let us know if you have any questions regarding the way we work and what you can do for the project. Regards On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Michele Martin michel...@hotmail.comwrote: Hi My name is Michele Martin, I am currently a senior in the Business Program at University of Washington, concentrating on Marketing and Technology Information Management. I would love to donate some time to OpenOffice. Currently I am taking 3 marketing classes this quarter so anything I can help with, please just let me know. Have a good day! Michele Martin michel...@hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
DOAP on AOO
Should we have a DOAP (Description of a Project) RDF for the Apache OpenOffice project. In a nutshell is a RDF schema defining the structure of the project. https://github.com/edumbill/doap/wiki This is an example: https://github.com/edumbill/doap/blob/master/examples/gnome-bluetooth-doap.rdf -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Re: Marketing Volunteer
Welcome in, please spend sometime reading the introductory modules, if you havent done so already. http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-marketing.html On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Michele Martin michel...@hotmail.comwrote: Hi My name is Michele Martin and I am currently a senior at University of Washington Business School with a concentration in marketing and technology information management, I would love to donate my time to Apache OpenOffice. Thanks Michele Martin michel...@hotmail.com -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org
Initial week download numbers?
It's been a week since we released AOO 4.0 wonder if we can get some numbers drom our Download stats. I think Rob had a script that make these analytics. -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Blog down?
On 7/10/13, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: Been having a 404 on blogs.apache.org any discussion on infra about this? It looks like a known issue: http://monitoring.apache.org/status/ I think we should plan on announcing the AOO 4.0 release availability via a website page rather than a blog post. We had issues with the 3.4 and 3.4.1 releases as well, where the load from the announcement (including press articles pointing to the blog post) brought the server down. A static web page will be better able to handle the load. We chould have a thirdparty feed like Friendfeed to have an RSS service to the website news log. -Rob -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Copy of mail sent to LibreOffice
Software is about ideas, freedom is about taking those ideas the way you want to. Forking is something that is natural in real life all the time. You take ideas from others, make it your own, and share your version of the idea. The Apache philosophy is a different set of ideas than the GPL one. It would be very insensitive to tell 2 different people to forget their ideas and work together because they are doing the same thing. Also just because you don't agree doesnt mean we will do as you say. On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 12:56 AM, Kadal Amutham vka...@gmail.com wrote: I am new to this FLOSS world. But it appears to me as follows. We are complicating ourselves and get entangled into the complication. With Warm Regards V.Kadal Amutham 919444360480 914422396480 On 27 June 2013 11:02, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 11:28 PM, Kadal Amutham vka...@gmail.com wrote: My simple question why this wastage of effort and what purpose it serves? Because we have two different licenses, Apache and GPL. These are incompatible, there really is legal ramifications and benefits to have two different licensed code of the same source. That said, this happens a lot in fLOSS, gnome vs kde, emacs, vs vim, sodipodi vs inkscape. FLOSS is the hability to fork. With Warm Regards V.Kadal Amutham 919444360480 914422396480 On 27 June 2013 09:25, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: you can argue the same thing for every different linux distro. Thre are mantainers of the same software packages on two (or actually many) Linux distributions which are different FTP servers all over the internet that end up on the same mirrors. Volunteers do repetitive marketing and localization tasks for each distro. welcome to free software. On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Kadal Amutham vka...@apache.org wrote: Both LibreOffice and OpenOffice are developed by fully / mostly by volunteers. Both serve the same purpose. Two separate teams of volunteers are doing the same work. In both teams, many volunteers are translating same sentences repeatedly. As you are aware volunteers are not paid. So the time and effort of volunteers are very precious and one should be very careful that there is no wastage. In my opinion any wastage of volunteers effort and time is a crime. I am sorry to say that this crime is happening in both LO and AOO V.Kadal Amutham -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org
Re: Copy of mail sent to LibreOffice
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 1:17 AM, Kadal Amutham vka...@gmail.com wrote: And last but not least, there are huge commercial interests in both project. Don't forget, the program it self is 90 % and more done by paid developers, not by volunteers. This is the case for Apache OpenOffice and LibreOffice. We at Apache call all volunteers, but this doesn't mean, that this people are not payed for their work. Same are not, yes, but many are. Things are getting more complicated now. So the effort of volunteers are commercialized. If the above statement is true, then it is better to call volunteers as unpaid laborers. Not really, you can commercialize OpenOffice, anyway you want. Most of FLOSS model are build on the provision of services, from migrations to costumization for specific needs of costumers. However is true that this right can be taken by indiviudals the same way as large corporations with many costumers around the world and brand recognition, and hordes of sales people ready to charge you for FLOSS products. The comercialization on the community goes in the way that many core developers have corporate agendas that can skew the way the community approach the development route. You can always re-fork these efforts but really is a question that is common on every society. A group of people focused on the same thing, can lead better than a larger group with no focus roaming around with no common target. With Warm Regards V.Kadal Amutham 919444360480 914422396480 On 27 June 2013 11:38, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: Software is about ideas, freedom is about taking those ideas the way you want to. Forking is something that is natural in real life all the time. You take ideas from others, make it your own, and share your version of the idea. The Apache philosophy is a different set of ideas than the GPL one. It would be very insensitive to tell 2 different people to forget their ideas and work together because they are doing the same thing. Also just because you don't agree doesnt mean we will do as you say. On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 12:56 AM, Kadal Amutham vka...@gmail.com wrote: I am new to this FLOSS world. But it appears to me as follows. We are complicating ourselves and get entangled into the complication. With Warm Regards V.Kadal Amutham 919444360480 914422396480 On 27 June 2013 11:02, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 11:28 PM, Kadal Amutham vka...@gmail.com wrote: My simple question why this wastage of effort and what purpose it serves? Because we have two different licenses, Apache and GPL. These are incompatible, there really is legal ramifications and benefits to have two different licensed code of the same source. That said, this happens a lot in fLOSS, gnome vs kde, emacs, vs vim, sodipodi vs inkscape. FLOSS is the hability to fork. With Warm Regards V.Kadal Amutham 919444360480 914422396480 On 27 June 2013 09:25, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: you can argue the same thing for every different linux distro. Thre are mantainers of the same software packages on two (or actually many) Linux distributions which are different FTP servers all over the internet that end up on the same mirrors. Volunteers do repetitive marketing and localization tasks for each distro. welcome to free software. On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Kadal Amutham vka...@apache.org wrote: Both LibreOffice and OpenOffice are developed by fully / mostly by volunteers. Both serve the same purpose. Two separate teams of volunteers are doing the same work. In both teams, many volunteers are translating same sentences repeatedly. As you are aware volunteers are not paid. So the time and effort of volunteers are very precious and one should be very careful that there is no wastage. In my opinion any wastage of volunteers effort and time is a crime. I am sorry to say that this crime is happening in both LO and AOO V.Kadal Amutham -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org
Re: Copy of mail sent to LibreOffice
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 1:33 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 1:17 AM, Kadal Amutham vka...@gmail.com wrote: And last but not least, there are huge commercial interests in both project. Don't forget, the program it self is 90 % and more done by paid developers, not by volunteers. This is the case for Apache OpenOffice and LibreOffice. We at Apache call all volunteers, but this doesn't mean, that this people are not payed for their work. Same are not, yes, but many are. Things are getting more complicated now. So the effort of volunteers are commercialized. If the above statement is true, then it is better to call volunteers as unpaid laborers. Not really, you can commercialize OpenOffice, anyway you want. Most of FLOSS model are build on the provision of services, from migrations to costumization for specific needs of costumers. However is true that this right can be taken by indiviudals the same way as large corporations with many costumers around the world and brand recognition, and hordes of sales people ready to charge you for FLOSS products. The comercialization on the community goes in the way that many core developers have corporate agendas that can skew the way the community approach the development route. You can always re-fork these efforts but really is a question that is common on every society. A group of people focused on the same thing, can lead better than a larger group with no focus roaming around with no common target. It is also important to mention, that this is a meritocracy, so we heavily rely on what people do, more than what people say. Although in my experience, people are still more sensitive to what is being agreed upon on top of an existing contribution. With Warm Regards V.Kadal Amutham 919444360480 914422396480 On 27 June 2013 11:38, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: Software is about ideas, freedom is about taking those ideas the way you want to. Forking is something that is natural in real life all the time. You take ideas from others, make it your own, and share your version of the idea. The Apache philosophy is a different set of ideas than the GPL one. It would be very insensitive to tell 2 different people to forget their ideas and work together because they are doing the same thing. Also just because you don't agree doesnt mean we will do as you say. On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 12:56 AM, Kadal Amutham vka...@gmail.com wrote: I am new to this FLOSS world. But it appears to me as follows. We are complicating ourselves and get entangled into the complication. With Warm Regards V.Kadal Amutham 919444360480 914422396480 On 27 June 2013 11:02, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 11:28 PM, Kadal Amutham vka...@gmail.com wrote: My simple question why this wastage of effort and what purpose it serves? Because we have two different licenses, Apache and GPL. These are incompatible, there really is legal ramifications and benefits to have two different licensed code of the same source. That said, this happens a lot in fLOSS, gnome vs kde, emacs, vs vim, sodipodi vs inkscape. FLOSS is the hability to fork. With Warm Regards V.Kadal Amutham 919444360480 914422396480 On 27 June 2013 09:25, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: you can argue the same thing for every different linux distro. Thre are mantainers of the same software packages on two (or actually many) Linux distributions which are different FTP servers all over the internet that end up on the same mirrors. Volunteers do repetitive marketing and localization tasks for each distro. welcome to free software. On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Kadal Amutham vka...@apache.org wrote: Both LibreOffice and OpenOffice are developed by fully / mostly by volunteers. Both serve the same purpose. Two separate teams of volunteers are doing the same work. In both teams, many volunteers are translating same sentences repeatedly. As you are aware volunteers are not paid. So the time and effort of volunteers are very precious and one should be very careful that there is no wastage. In my opinion any wastage of volunteers effort and time is a crime. I am sorry to say that this crime is happening in both LO and AOO V.Kadal Amutham -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache
Re: Copy of mail sent to LibreOffice
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 11:28 PM, Kadal Amutham vka...@gmail.com wrote: My simple question why this wastage of effort and what purpose it serves? Because we have two different licenses, Apache and GPL. These are incompatible, there really is legal ramifications and benefits to have two different licensed code of the same source. That said, this happens a lot in fLOSS, gnome vs kde, emacs, vs vim, sodipodi vs inkscape. FLOSS is the hability to fork. With Warm Regards V.Kadal Amutham 919444360480 914422396480 On 27 June 2013 09:25, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: you can argue the same thing for every different linux distro. Thre are mantainers of the same software packages on two (or actually many) Linux distributions which are different FTP servers all over the internet that end up on the same mirrors. Volunteers do repetitive marketing and localization tasks for each distro. welcome to free software. On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Kadal Amutham vka...@apache.org wrote: Both LibreOffice and OpenOffice are developed by fully / mostly by volunteers. Both serve the same purpose. Two separate teams of volunteers are doing the same work. In both teams, many volunteers are translating same sentences repeatedly. As you are aware volunteers are not paid. So the time and effort of volunteers are very precious and one should be very careful that there is no wastage. In my opinion any wastage of volunteers effort and time is a crime. I am sorry to say that this crime is happening in both LO and AOO V.Kadal Amutham -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org
Business benefit of OpenOffice
I would like to know based on our features and advantages, business idea how a company can make money from adopting OpenOffice. A few years back, I was pushing for a 'open business plan' so we could position a migration of OpenOffice as an open source plan, where better salesguys than me could contribute with the wording and even identify benefit previously seen. (http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/UM_Migracion) Some of these tasks were not finalize, however the business need could benefit the people interested to market openoffice as part of a Business development strategy. Also is a good brainshare to see what works, what not, and with who. -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [VOTE][RESULTS] Logo selection for Apache OpenOffice 4.0
Do we have SVG on all of these logos yet or would they be required after the decision is made? On 6/6/13, Alphonso Whitfield III awhitfi...@vital-inet.com wrote: I have been traveling and was unable to participate please send a link to the winning logo. Thanks Plan Your Work and Work Your Plan with The Vital Portal Alphonso Whitfield i...@thevitalportal.com Vital 912-816-2595 Skype: vital.i.net Visit us at: The Vital Portal The Vital Portal On facebook Visit our Google Community Join our Vital Portal Webinars at: The Vital Portal WebEx Meeting Center . - Original Message - From: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org To: d...@openoffice.apache.org, marketing@openoffice.apache.org Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 1:11:53 PM Subject: [VOTE][RESULTS] Logo selection for Apache OpenOffice 4.0 Here are the binding votes, with names abbreviated as: CR = Chris Rottensteiner KGa = Kevin Grignon A KGb = Kevin Grignon AB SM = Samer Monsour none = none of the above PMC 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th robweir CR KGa KGb SM regina none CR Logo-39 Logo-28 rgb-es none SM CR KGa KGb arist SM CR KGa none kschenk Logo-28 Logo-31 KGb CR none pescetti CR SM none KGa KGb hdu KGa KGb Logo-11 SM CR khirano none KGa CR SM KGb mayongl none CR KGa alg none CR SM KGb KGa orw CR SM none jsc CR none SM KGa af CR SM KGa none arielch none pj CR Logo-04 We have 15 ballots, so 8 votes are required to win. With Instant Runoff Voting we proceed in multiple rounds. In each round we tally the votes, see if anyone logo has the majority. If none do, then we drop the lowest scoring logo and reallocate the votes for those who picked the lowest scoring logo to their next ordered preference. Ties are broken by looking forward to next level preferences. Round 1 CR: 6 votes none: 6 votes SM: 1 vote Logo-28: 1 vote There is a tie for last place (SM and Logo-28) so we look forward to 2nd place preferences as a tiebreaker and see that SM has 4 votes and Logo-28 has zero. So we drop Logo-28 and move to Kay's 2nd preference (Logo-31) for Round 2. Round 2 CR: 6 votes none: 6 votes SM: 1 vote Logo-31: 1 vote Again, no logo has a majority, so we drop the lowest scoring logo. Again, a tie, so we look forward at next preferences where SM has 4 votes and Logo-31 has zero. So we drop Logo-31 and move to Kay's next preference (KGb) for Round 3. Round 3 CR: 6 votes none: 6 votes SM: 1 vote KGb: 1 vote Again, no logo has a majority, so we drop the lowest scoring logo. Again, a tie, so we look forward at next preference where SM has 4 votes and KGb has 1. So we drop KGb and move to Kay's next preference (CR) for Round 4. Round 4 CR: 7 votes none: 6 votes SM: 1 vote Again, no logo has a majority, so we drop the lowest scoring logo, SM, and reallocate Andrew's vote to his next choice, CR for round 5. Round 5 CR: 8 votes none: 6 votes CR now has the majority and wins. Note this is intuitively obvious as well, since 75% of the ballots rated CR higher than none. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Logo next steps
There also need to be adjusted to the graphic guidelines like pantones and metrics of the logo similar to this: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Logo_Usage_Guidelines On 6/6/13, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Now that the core decision making process is over, what are the next steps? 1) I've sent Chris a note requesting the latest SVG. Once I receive it I'll check it in. 2) We should make an inventory of places where this logo should go. What sizes are needed, formats, background color (or alpha transparency), border requirements, location in SVN, etc. The ones I know of, from just a scan of the product and website are: a) The logo in the splash screen. This includes the version number, as well as some copyright text and other material. b) Image in Help/About dialog. This also includes version number. c) Website header d) Blog side bar e) http://forum.openoffice.org/ header f) Wiki header -- but the scale is quite small there so maybe we want to use only the graphical portion? g) extensions/templates repositories h) favicon? i) Bugzilla? Note: Previously it was mentioned that the number 4 had unlucky connotations in some cultures. So we need to include the version number as part of the logo in the splash screen and about box? 3) Hopefully several of us can help create the needed variations once we have the vector source. Note that some are website uses and other are in-product uses. I think we should prioritize the in-product uses, so we don't hold up the release. 4) Later, after we ship, we can notify 3rd parties, Amazon, etc., so they can update their copy. Regards. -Rob Congratulations to Chris! Good job. OK on all this. Once we get the svg, I hope we'll be able to do testing re the light gray text that was a concern. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- MzK You can't believe one thing and do another. What you believe and what you do are the same thing. -- Leonard Peltier -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: automatic move to next spreadsheet
I am not sure how can we predict ther is a BASK012 On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 8:54 AM, JW LISTER sa...@jwlister.co.uk wrote: Dear Sir I use Openoffice spreadsheets and would find it handy if the next or following spreadsheet was suggested when updating a list of spreadsheets. i.e. if BASK011 has been amended,saved and I wish to save and go to the next BASK012 it would be a great help and save time if next file name be shown in the box used for opening a spreadsheet. Best regards J.S.Wardingley J W Lister Ltd Clifton Road, Brighouse HD6 1SL Tele: 01484 712925 Fax: 01484 715314 __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 8357 (20130521) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscribe@**openoffice.apache.orgmarketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-help@openoffice.**apache.orgmarketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org
Re: Logo next steps
I would like to see the sourc, so users can modify it, preferably on an open source format like XCF or SVG. On 5/10/13, Kadal Amutham vka...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Mr.Rob Weir, I want to view the voting result. Can you send me the link once again? I have deleted by oversight. I want to know on what basis the short listing has been done With Warm Regards V.Kadal Amutham 919444360480 914422396480 On 11 May 2013 01:33, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Some ideas: 1) I'm hoping we start seeing revisions of logos by Monday so we can take it to the next stage. Post them to the wiki. You can add your logo to the wiki here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Stage+2+Logo+Refinement 2) Let's then discuss on the list and see if we can come to a consensus on the single logo to go with. Aim for a decision within a week, if possible. I'd rather avoid another survey. A few ways we could do this. We could discuss and by process of elimination converge on a single logo. Or maybe we ask each designer to vote for one logo, but they can't vote on their own? (Or would that be too dramatic?) Or, as a last resort we could ask the PMC to decide. But it is best if we can reach consensus instead of voting. We all know that we'll have only one logo in the end. 3) When we settle onto a logo, we'll need to get the vector source files uploaded. I can help with that. 4) We'll then need to make a variety of bitmap treatments of the logo. We'll need one for the website. Different ones for avatars for our Twitter, Google+ and Facebook pages. One for the Help/About dialog in the product. Possibly a more elaborate treatment for the splash screen, where we can create a larger image that includes the logo. We'll also want a much simplified and smaller treatment for the favicon. We can share these tasks. We don't need the original designer to do it all, once we have picked the main logo. We can even start now to collect technical requirements of these treatments, such as aspect ratio, 4) There are other elements of the brand refresh that we should look at as well, like updating toolbar icons. The connection to the logo is subtle here. I think it has more to do with the color palette, degree of saturation, lighting effects, etc. I am not a designer, so we really need someone with expertise to step up and make a proposal here on what we should do. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Logo next steps
Also if there is any special font used, to be inserted or have the source files, or at least the path files. On 5/10/13, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: I would like to see the sourc, so users can modify it, preferably on an open source format like XCF or SVG. On 5/10/13, Kadal Amutham vka...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Mr.Rob Weir, I want to view the voting result. Can you send me the link once again? I have deleted by oversight. I want to know on what basis the short listing has been done With Warm Regards V.Kadal Amutham 919444360480 914422396480 On 11 May 2013 01:33, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Some ideas: 1) I'm hoping we start seeing revisions of logos by Monday so we can take it to the next stage. Post them to the wiki. You can add your logo to the wiki here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Stage+2+Logo+Refinement 2) Let's then discuss on the list and see if we can come to a consensus on the single logo to go with. Aim for a decision within a week, if possible. I'd rather avoid another survey. A few ways we could do this. We could discuss and by process of elimination converge on a single logo. Or maybe we ask each designer to vote for one logo, but they can't vote on their own? (Or would that be too dramatic?) Or, as a last resort we could ask the PMC to decide. But it is best if we can reach consensus instead of voting. We all know that we'll have only one logo in the end. 3) When we settle onto a logo, we'll need to get the vector source files uploaded. I can help with that. 4) We'll then need to make a variety of bitmap treatments of the logo. We'll need one for the website. Different ones for avatars for our Twitter, Google+ and Facebook pages. One for the Help/About dialog in the product. Possibly a more elaborate treatment for the splash screen, where we can create a larger image that includes the logo. We'll also want a much simplified and smaller treatment for the favicon. We can share these tasks. We don't need the original designer to do it all, once we have picked the main logo. We can even start now to collect technical requirements of these treatments, such as aspect ratio, 4) There are other elements of the brand refresh that we should look at as well, like updating toolbar icons. The connection to the logo is subtle here. I think it has more to do with the color palette, degree of saturation, lighting effects, etc. I am not a designer, so we really need someone with expertise to step up and make a proposal here on what we should do. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Please can we market OpenOffice to more educational institutions?
Spain has produced a lot of courseware and educational curriculum for elementary and secundary education. As far as college, I think it can be done. OOoAthors, now ODF authors has a very good array of books that can be easily transform into textbooks (with excercises, cases and such). Althought some more specialized type of education, like Finance and Accounting with Calc, would need a bit more work. However I like the book by Gabriell Gurley on more practical use of OpenOffice.org http://www.amazon.com/Conceptual-Guide-OpenOffice-org-Second/dp/0977899179 On 4/20/13, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: i am working with education in Indonesia we use openoffice to education here. yes has been years, more than 8 years we never see ms.office the key is education material, and curriculums i love be part of this work. Frans Thamura Meruvian On Apr 20, 2013 9:06 PM, goldf...@aol.in wrote: Hi, I feel OpenOffice has much more value than competing products. I find this very sad news: AICTE Makes Microsoft Office 365 Mandatory For Technical Colleges In India! - http://www.efytimes.com/e1/fullnews.asp?edid=104544 Could we please educate 'educational' institutions so that they have more value, save money and hopeful give back to OO? Any suggestions? Thanks, Paul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Please can we market OpenOffice to more educational institutions?
During one of the students internship there was a lot of Phisics, and Math problems developed in Excel, on somehting called Excellets, he was able to convert 20 to calc. Original excelets http://academic.pgcc.edu/~ssinex/excelets/chem_excelets.htm Localized and converted calclets http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/User_talk:Luis-kp#MODELOS_MATEM.C3.81TICOS. I guess is just a matter to re-localize to the target language. On 4/20/13, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote: i am working with education in Indonesia we use openoffice to education here. yes has been years, more than 8 years we never see ms.office the key is education material, and curriculums i love be part of this work. Frans Thamura Meruvian On Apr 20, 2013 9:06 PM, goldf...@aol.in wrote: Hi, I feel OpenOffice has much more value than competing products. I find this very sad news: AICTE Makes Microsoft Office 365 Mandatory For Technical Colleges In India! - http://www.efytimes.com/e1/fullnews.asp?edid=104544 Could we please educate 'educational' institutions so that they have more value, save money and hopeful give back to OO? Any suggestions? Thanks, Paul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
[GSoC] Google Summer of Code Hangout on Air right now
Hangout and youtube stream going on right now. http://www.youtube.com/user/eduatgoogle?v=RX35hGMKKnw -- Forwarded message -- From: Stephanie Taylor sttay...@google.com Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 13:06:20 -0700 Subject: Re: Google Summer of Code Hangout on Air tomorrow, 20:00 UTC To: Google Summer of Code . google-summer-of-code-disc...@googlegroups.com The hangout is now live at: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+GoogleinEducation/posts Stephanie Taylor | Open Source Programs, Google | sttay...@google.com | 650-214-1656 On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Carol Smith car...@google.com wrote: Hi all, This is just a friendly notification that we will be having a GSoC Hangout on Air tomorrow at 20:00 UTC. Here is the link for the Google+ event: https://plus.google.com/events/cpooa4srhdkp7o6ttsu88tcuhl4 We hope you'll attend if you're able! We will be discussing how the program works and when to sign up as a student. We will also be having QA for those who'd like their questions answered on-air. Cheers, Carol -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Summer of Code Discuss group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to google-summer-of-code-discuss+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to google-summer-of-code-disc...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-discuss?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Summer of Code Discuss group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to google-summer-of-code-discuss+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to google-summer-of-code-disc...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-discuss?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Just dream on the perfect artwork
This sound weird even for me, but i just dream on the AOO logo for 4.0. I just woke up and I am trying to sketch whatever I saw was the AOO logo, more than the logo was the artwork (similar to the gulls or the 3D gulls). The artwork usually comes with the look and feel of the logo. This was an image that at first glance looked more like a knife till I finally got it, it was a windsurf leech. Something similar to here: http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs37/f/2008/280/d/a/Sunrise_windsurfing_by_blindrider.jpg This basically form the 4, unfortunately the gradients were a bit too hard to memorize and reproduce. But a series of gulls form different shades of blue, and the intersection gave the inner part of the 4 space. I am still working on it but this is the first draft but here is somewhat of a sketch. http://imagebin.org/252906 -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org
Re: Hello
Hello Can, feel free to propouse and get involved with the community and projects. On 4/1/13, Can Ünlüsoy canunlu...@aol.com wrote: Hello, I am Can Ünlüsoy. Just introducing myself to the marketing mail list. Can Ünlüsoy canunlu...@aol.com -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Hello
Great, hope we can get more and do some discussion. You can see mine going away from the classic Gull/Orb logo and into something completely different. I am a big admirer of the Mozilla logos. But also Scribus is nice. On 4/1/13, Can Ünlüsoy canunlu...@aol.com wrote: Hello, I just made a logo proposal and thought that you may want to check it out. http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.x+-+Logo+Explorations Can Ünlüsoy canunlu...@aol.com -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Student guide for GSOC
Interested document to have in mind for the Google Summer of Code participants http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ch003_am-i-good-enough/ -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org
Re: [AOO 4.0 Branding Refresh] Call For Google Hangout
On 3/22/13, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: Here is the agenda. I will post to cwiki as well and make a link available via our social sites as well: Design Hangout Agenda Join us on in chat on day of: Chat Room: http://www.chatzy.com/77134543884661 Room Password: aoodesign Wouldnt make more sense to use the #openoffice.org channel on IRC? Join us via our Google Hangout Youtube stream: Link will be announced via facebook and google+ group day of. Visit our social pages day of the events get link. Welcome / Roll Call - 10 mins Rules - 1 min - Follow the agenda and stay on topic. Samer will be enforcing this. - Don't interrupt people speaking. Instead signal, wave / raise hand. I will queue people in order. - I will interrupt if repetitive / the same point is being made (moderating to drive conclusion, its what I do). First Item - Run Through Artifacts - 10 mins Application and launcher - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Application+And+Launcher Desktop Icons - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Desktop+Icons Installation - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Installation Logo - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Logo Social Sites - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Social+Sites Websites (big part) - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Websites Questions about artifacts - 5 mins Second Item - Outline A Rough Goal - 15 mins - Set some goal posts and lets try not to move them during review. - We will tackle items later based on these and then we can figure who can commit to do what. - Any items we can't fill will be posted to marketing page for work/help. Third Item - Review Logo Explorations 30-40 mins https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.x+-+Logo+Explorations https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Complete+Design+Proposals -I will moderate the group through each of the designs on that page. Revisit Goals - 10 mins - From what we saw what works, what didn't. - Assignment of work if possible. Closing Comments and QA - Remainder of 30 mins On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On 3/18/13, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Marketing, I will be creating an agenda and moderating a google hangout to discuss the submissions we've received. This is open to all people registered to the marketing mailing list. Not on the mailing list? https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/call_for_marketing_volunteers Add these to your google calendar (even if you don't use google calendar): First Hangout - http://goo.gl/PrVlF Saturday Mar 23rd: 9AM PDT, 12PM EDT, 4PM GMT, 9:30PM IST, 12AM SGT (Sunday) Second Hangout - http://goo.gl/akOHH Sunday Mar 24th: 5AM PDT, 8AM EDT, 12PM GMT, 5:30PM IST, 8PM SGT I got blank events on both. You can follow AOO on Google+ in order for me to invite you at the event start time from the community page: https://plus.google.com/communities/103683488250592271079 I know G+ now support events. Would be a good idea to generate it. The hangout will be recorded to youtube and posted on the mailing list for archive purposes. That way its not member conspiring in secret wahahaha. No but seriously its to have record of ideas and decisions we make. Fair warning, I don't know how good volunteers' english is, it may well turn into a thumbs up, thumbs down via video. I can't assume, but I'm giving this a try. Samer Mansour -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [AOO 4.0 Branding Refresh] Call For Google Hangout
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Alex, I don't know how to use IRC as I've used it twice in my life and I had to download client software. I'd rather just give people a link and they know how to join on their own. I can say the same about your chat service, I never used your chat system. IRC is where the community gather 24/7, you just need to join in and you dont need special password. If there was an easy IRC web client that could be sent to people as a simple link I would consider it for future meetings. Sure there are, have you even look at any? Samer Mansour On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: I've posted the event to facebook so it makes it into people's news feeds tonight. Hoping to get the public chiming in the chat room during the live video and during comments and QA. Rob can you grant me access to the AOO page on google+ so I can post there as well? Done. -Rob Its kind of good to post to post the day before because it will show up in news feeds on the social platforms. Preferably a week before and a day before and even during. On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: Here is the agenda. I will post to cwiki as well and make a link available via our social sites as well: Design Hangout Agenda Join us on in chat on day of: Chat Room: http://www.chatzy.com/77134543884661 Room Password: aoodesign Join us via our Google Hangout Youtube stream: Link will be announced via facebook and google+ group day of. Visit our social pages day of the events get link. Welcome / Roll Call - 10 mins Rules - 1 min - Follow the agenda and stay on topic. Samer will be enforcing this. - Don't interrupt people speaking. Instead signal, wave / raise hand. I will queue people in order. - I will interrupt if repetitive / the same point is being made (moderating to drive conclusion, its what I do). First Item - Run Through Artifacts - 10 mins Application and launcher - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Application+And+Launcher Desktop Icons - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Desktop+Icons Installation - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Installation Logo - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Logo Social Sites - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Social+Sites Websites (big part) - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Websites Questions about artifacts - 5 mins Second Item - Outline A Rough Goal - 15 mins - Set some goal posts and lets try not to move them during review. - We will tackle items later based on these and then we can figure who can commit to do what. - Any items we can't fill will be posted to marketing page for work/help. Third Item - Review Logo Explorations 30-40 mins https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.x+-+Logo+Explorations https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Complete+Design+Proposals -I will moderate the group through each of the designs on that page. Revisit Goals - 10 mins - From what we saw what works, what didn't. - Assignment of work if possible. Closing Comments and QA - Remainder of 30 mins On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On 3/18/13, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Marketing, I will be creating an agenda and moderating a google hangout to discuss the submissions we've received. This is open to all people registered to the marketing mailing list. Not on the mailing list? https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/call_for_marketing_volunteers Add these to your google calendar (even if you don't use google calendar): First Hangout - http://goo.gl/PrVlF Saturday Mar 23rd: 9AM PDT, 12PM EDT, 4PM GMT, 9:30PM IST, 12AM SGT (Sunday) Second Hangout - http://goo.gl/akOHH Sunday Mar 24th: 5AM PDT, 8AM EDT, 12PM GMT, 5:30PM IST, 8PM SGT I got blank events on both. You can follow AOO on Google+ in order for me to invite you at the event start time from the community page: https://plus.google.com/communities/103683488250592271079 I know G+ now support events. Would be a good idea to generate it. The hangout will be recorded to youtube and posted on the mailing list for archive purposes. That way its not member conspiring in secret wahahaha. No but seriously its to have record of ideas and decisions we make. Fair warning, I don't know how good volunteers' english
Re: [AOO 4.0 Branding Refresh] Call For Google Hangout
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Alex, I don't know how to use IRC as I've used it twice in my life and I had to download client software. I'd rather just give people a link and they know how to join on their own. If there was an easy IRC web client that could be sent to people as a simple link I would consider it for future meetings. Here is one, just put #openoffice.org and you will see many users already logged in. might not be active, but at least they are already there. http://webchat.freenode.net/ Samer Mansour On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: I've posted the event to facebook so it makes it into people's news feeds tonight. Hoping to get the public chiming in the chat room during the live video and during comments and QA. Rob can you grant me access to the AOO page on google+ so I can post there as well? Done. -Rob Its kind of good to post to post the day before because it will show up in news feeds on the social platforms. Preferably a week before and a day before and even during. On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: Here is the agenda. I will post to cwiki as well and make a link available via our social sites as well: Design Hangout Agenda Join us on in chat on day of: Chat Room: http://www.chatzy.com/77134543884661 Room Password: aoodesign Join us via our Google Hangout Youtube stream: Link will be announced via facebook and google+ group day of. Visit our social pages day of the events get link. Welcome / Roll Call - 10 mins Rules - 1 min - Follow the agenda and stay on topic. Samer will be enforcing this. - Don't interrupt people speaking. Instead signal, wave / raise hand. I will queue people in order. - I will interrupt if repetitive / the same point is being made (moderating to drive conclusion, its what I do). First Item - Run Through Artifacts - 10 mins Application and launcher - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Application+And+Launcher Desktop Icons - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Desktop+Icons Installation - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Installation Logo - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Logo Social Sites - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Social+Sites Websites (big part) - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Websites Questions about artifacts - 5 mins Second Item - Outline A Rough Goal - 15 mins - Set some goal posts and lets try not to move them during review. - We will tackle items later based on these and then we can figure who can commit to do what. - Any items we can't fill will be posted to marketing page for work/help. Third Item - Review Logo Explorations 30-40 mins https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.x+-+Logo+Explorations https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Complete+Design+Proposals -I will moderate the group through each of the designs on that page. Revisit Goals - 10 mins - From what we saw what works, what didn't. - Assignment of work if possible. Closing Comments and QA - Remainder of 30 mins On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On 3/18/13, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Marketing, I will be creating an agenda and moderating a google hangout to discuss the submissions we've received. This is open to all people registered to the marketing mailing list. Not on the mailing list? https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/call_for_marketing_volunteers Add these to your google calendar (even if you don't use google calendar): First Hangout - http://goo.gl/PrVlF Saturday Mar 23rd: 9AM PDT, 12PM EDT, 4PM GMT, 9:30PM IST, 12AM SGT (Sunday) Second Hangout - http://goo.gl/akOHH Sunday Mar 24th: 5AM PDT, 8AM EDT, 12PM GMT, 5:30PM IST, 8PM SGT I got blank events on both. You can follow AOO on Google+ in order for me to invite you at the event start time from the community page: https://plus.google.com/communities/103683488250592271079 I know G+ now support events. Would be a good idea to generate it. The hangout will be recorded to youtube and posted on the mailing list for archive purposes. That way its not member conspiring in secret wahahaha. No but seriously its to have record of ideas and decisions we make. Fair warning, I don't know how good volunteers' english is, it may well turn into a thumbs up, thumbs
Re: Document Freedom Day 2013 -- March 27
On 3/20/13, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On 3/6/13, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Document Freedom Day (DFD) promotes the use of open standards and interoperability in documents. OpenOffice has been a core part of DFD since it first started in 2008. Our community's support of the OpenDocument Format (ODF) file format is broad: in the product of course, but also via our personal use, and via the efforts of our volunteers in OASIS maintaining the standard, and at Plugfests improving interoperability. I'd like to see us celebrate Document Freedom Day. I think we can do something similar do what we did for International Mother Language Day: Using social media and our website. We can reach nearly a million people when we do this, so it is very effective. To make this happen we need a few things to happen before, say March 10th: Time is running out if we want to do something. 1) An adapted logo for the website, something thematic. a) The hi-res version of the current logo is here: http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/AOO-logo-hires.jpg b) For ideas, the official DFD art work is here: http://documentfreedom.org/artwork.en.html here is a simple one: http://imagebin.org/251039 Couple more: http://imagebin.org/251040 http://imagebin.org/251041 c) The final website logo should be 100px high, with width of 200-400px. d) If we can avoid putting the date in the logo we can reuse it in future years as well. Anyone feel inspired to create an AOO/DFD logo for the website? 2) A blog post and/or press release. The week prior to DFD is Sunshine Week in the US, and is focused on open government (http://www.sunshineweek.org/). So I might try to write up something that connects the two, i.e., how the use of open standards helps promote open government. I am currently working on a blog post for DFD. 3) Use our social media accounts to promote DFD on the day. I've created a placeholder for a landing page that can be shared via Facebook/Twitter/Google+. This is based on the work Samer did for the download page. It has no content, and I probably introduced some bugs. But it is full of potential ! http://www.openoffice.org/social/dfd.html Anyone interested in helping? Again, time is running short if we want to do something for Document Freedom Day. Regards, -Rob Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Document Freedom Day 2013 -- March 27
On 3/6/13, Robin Fowler robin.fow...@outlook.com wrote: I'll probably find the time to make a logo. I've seen the official logo for 2013. Is there any other source of inspiration or any suggestions anyone has? You can see the artwork I did from both here: http://imagebin.org/251039 http://imagebin.org/251040 http://imagebin.org/251041 Regards, Robin On 6 Mar 2013, at 17:59, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Document Freedom Day (DFD) promotes the use of open standards and interoperability in documents. OpenOffice has been a core part of DFD since it first started in 2008. Our community's support of the OpenDocument Format (ODF) file format is broad: in the product of course, but also via our personal use, and via the efforts of our volunteers in OASIS maintaining the standard, and at Plugfests improving interoperability. I'd like to see us celebrate Document Freedom Day. I think we can do something similar do what we did for International Mother Language Day: Using social media and our website. We can reach nearly a million people when we do this, so it is very effective. To make this happen we need a few things to happen before, say March 10th: Time is running out if we want to do something. 1) An adapted logo for the website, something thematic. a) The hi-res version of the current logo is here: http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/AOO-logo-hires.jpg b) For ideas, the official DFD art work is here: http://documentfreedom.org/artwork.en.html c) The final website logo should be 100px high, with width of 200-400px. d) If we can avoid putting the date in the logo we can reuse it in future years as well. Anyone feel inspired to create an AOO/DFD logo for the website? 2) A blog post and/or press release. The week prior to DFD is Sunshine Week in the US, and is focused on open government (http://www.sunshineweek.org/). So I might try to write up something that connects the two, i.e., how the use of open standards helps promote open government. I am currently working on a blog post for DFD. 3) Use our social media accounts to promote DFD on the day. I've created a placeholder for a landing page that can be shared via Facebook/Twitter/Google+. This is based on the work Samer did for the download page. It has no content, and I probably introduced some bugs. But it is full of potential ! http://www.openoffice.org/social/dfd.html Anyone interested in helping? Again, time is running short if we want to do something for Document Freedom Day. Regards, -Rob Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Cloud Version of AOO
On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Kadal Amutham vka...@gmail.com wrote: I understand the point With Warm Regards V.Kadal Amutham 919444360480 914422396480 On 5 March 2013 21:42, John Gilger john.gil...@gmail.com wrote: Why would anyone want a cloud version? Using the cloud makes software a service for which MS or others can charge a monthly access fee. That is the sole reason anyone is promoting SaaS and the cloud. The marketing model is to offer free access to the cloud to get people used to the concept, then implement charges after they have co\ome to rely on access. Usually this is for private cloud just like owncloud, eyeos, and many other web applications. Having a web application of OpenOffice, this should be something that can be already found on many web editors that export to ODF. Like for example WebODF or FengOffice-CE. However for most people, an editor and not just a reader should be used. This means that maybe an experimental UX design of a openoffice-like UI on something like FCKEditor, and Gelsheet. John On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 10:17 PM, Kadal Amutham vka...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Firends, Microsoft has come out with cloud version of MS-Office suite. More information at http://www.efytimes.com/e1/fullnews.asp?edid=101723ntype=moredate=3/5/2013 Is it possible to have similar version of AOO? With Warm Regards V.Kadal Amutham 919444360480 914422396480 -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org
Re: Document Freedom Day 2013 -- March 27
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Kadal Amutham vka...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Rob, It is very informative and include the same in the page or not With Warm Regards V.Kadal Amutham 919444360480 914422396480 On 1 March 2013 21:34, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 2:45 AM, Kadal Amutham vka...@gmail.com wrote: The http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Dfd gives very few information how OpenOffice uses the open standard file format. By reading the page, I am not sure whether all the files of AOO are of open standard. The page can be added with few more information, in what direction the open standard file formats are available. Is there any file format for drawings , paintings, video, audio etc. The ODF standard handles the main formats used by OpenOffice applications: *.odt = text documents *.ods = spreadsheets *.odp = presentations (There are others as well, but less common) Open standard has different meanings, which you can see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_standard But generally it means 1) It is a published standard, and 2) It does not require payment of royalties in order to implement it. There are many standards out there that are not open. For example MP3 audio has several patents on it, and a device manufacturer that implements MP3 must pay royalties. But most of the common web standards, including all those from the W3C, are open standards. The ODF document format standard is also open. OpenOffice also implements some formats that are not open standards. For example, the old binary format from Microsoft, the doc/xls/ppt formats. Although these don't require royalty payments, they are not standards, since they have not been reviewed/approved by any standards organization. So they are not open standards. The advantage of open standards is that it encourages competition since everyone has access to the technical information as well as rights to implement the standard. This is quite common today, but it was not always this way. For example, back around 2000 we didn't have good documentation on Microsoft file formats. And the only information available had a restriction on it, that it could not be used by anyone was creating a competing application. So this lead to lock-in, where the user had to continue buying Microsoft Office in order to have access to their own documents. It was a lot of hard work, especially in Europe where the EC got involved, but now open standards are the norm for document formats. Regards, -Rob Regards, -Rob With Warm Regards V.Kadal Amutham 919444360480 914422396480 On 28 February 2013 01:35, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: On 1) Can I suggest we make the graphic change maybe 3-5 days before DFD. Make an earlier blog post letting people know its coming up. We should go viral before the day. I agree. Even though the actual even is on a specific day we'll get more notice if we start a few days ahead of time. I could create a small page about AOO and DFD and what it means to us. Much like the download page, we can assign the social platform meta-data image and text to the one we're promoting AOO with. We could then link it to the early and day-of blog posts. So the idea would be that visitors could like or share that page to their social network? I like that idea. Anything that we can do to turn it into a two-way engagement/sharing will be more effective than simply broadcasting information in a single direction. For example, with IMLD, the actual blog post did not get much of a response, but a simple Facebook post asking the question How do you say 'free software' in your Mother Language? got 45 comments, 44 likes, and 2 shares. - - - - - PAGE META DATA [Image=AOO-DFD-Doodle.png] [Title=Apache OpenOffice celebrates DFD, learn more here.] [Text=AOO is committed to support ODF standards so that everyone can access their information independent of the tools and suites they use. Learn more here.] IN TYPICAL OO.org PAGE TEMPLATE [Short brief about what it means to us. Benefits to society, talk about owning your information and having the freedom to move to other office suites and OS/Technology platforms. Talk about how we support multiple platforms for that freedom. Windows to Linux to OS X] Let your friends know its document freedom day on March 27th: [Share Facebook] [Share Twitter] [Share Google
Re: OpenOffice User Survey (was Re: Help with marketing activity 2.0)
OpenOffice used to have such surveys on their releases during the installation process. I particuarly never saw this data create anything. Maybe it was analyzed by Sun exclusively, but the marketing project at the time, never really create much. I think a more open and responsive and interactive system is the one that was generated during the 4.0 brainstorm. That said, are we looking for something specific at the moment. I think most of the info from that ideastorm still need to set in place. IMO. On 2/5/13, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 4:31 AM, Paul Vella p...@lewers.com.au wrote: Hi all, ** ** I was looking at your website in the help wanted section and came across this: ** ** 2.0: Help design, conduct and analyze a survey of OpenOffice users, so we understand more fully who they are and what their needs and priorities are. ** ** I work in market research designing questionnaires, running analysis and creating slides to present the data. Depending on the timing of your needs and my work schedule, I’d be interested in hearing more about what you need and how I might be able to help. ** Hi Paul, Welcome to the Apache OpenOffice project and the marketing mailing list! We discussed the survey idea a little in December and Graham Lauder, your neighbor in New Zealand, sketched out some ideas on our wiki: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Survey+Design I think Graham also had access to a server running LimeSurvey ( http://www.limesurvey.org/). As a non-profit volunteer-run open source project we don't have a budget to use commercial survey tools. The idea was to survey our user base to get a better sense of their demographics, as well as how they were using OpenOffice. In the large, we know we've had 35 million downloads of OpenOffice 3.4. And we know a rough breakdown by country and operating system. We get that info from the website analytic. But we don't know whether the users are predominately home users, academic, small corporations, large, whether they use OpenOffice every day, or only once a month, etc. I'm sure if we wanted, we could collect many questions we might ask. But then the danger is the survey becomes to long, and few people complete it. So we need to find the right size for the survey as well. We have a few ways of reaching out to users to encourage them to respond to the survey. One is to advertise it on our website (750K visits/day) and via social media. That would get many responses, but there is no guarantee it would consist of only users. Another way would be to send out to the 9000 users who are on our mailing list. Another approach might be to present the survey on the website right after a user downloads OpenOffice. There may be other options as well. So that's a quick brain dump on the prior discussions on this topic. I'll throw this out for any other comments others on the list have, and if you have any questions. It sounds like you have expertise in this area, so I'm hoping your guidance can help keep us on target. Regards, -Rob ** Cheers, ** ** *Paul Vella* Consultant/ Analyst *p...@lewers.com.au* Lewers Research Level 2, 627 Chapel Street South Yarra VIC 3141 *P** +61 3 9823 9200* ** ** [image: Description: Description: cid:image001.png@01CBC76C.8C02CBE0] ** ** *This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be privileged. If you have received it by mistake please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete this message from your system. Any unauthorised use, reproduction, disclosure, adaptation or dissemination of this message in whole or in part is strictly prohibited. Please note that e-mails are susceptible to change. All copyright and intellectual property remains with Lewers Research Pty Ltd. Any views expressed in this email are made in confidence by the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of Lewers Research Pty Ltd or any officer of the company including the sender.* ** ** -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org
Re: Open Office Award Page
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 2:15 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: Not sure why the site is not displaying the changes on the page but I also put it an update on JFiddler if anyone want to see the page in all it's CSS glory. (sorry no absolute image links). http://jsfiddle.net/Km7YC/2/ Looks like the CMS didn't push it out to the production server. I tool care of that, and also renamed the HTML so we can compare your version along side Kadal's: http://www.openoffice.org/test/awardsVK/ac.html It still showing the old version, can u verify the latest version is on it, and also update the support/print.css and http://www.openoffice.org/test/awardsVK/vk.html I like that yours is pulling out the data info and giving that good placement. But the images are a bit disorganized. -Rob I have a CSS rule that might need change since I specify a standard height, but I see some of the descriptions are quite large, I have some reservations since some of the quotes seems to be unrelated to OpenOffice itself. Also thinking about maybe using JQuery-scrolldown behavior and have kind of a folding event, so users can only see the header, and click on them to read the quote dynamically. Look at the demo on the reference to get a sense of the behavior. http://api.jquery.com/slideToggle/ Thoughts? On 1/10/13, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: Put some commits on the page with the proposed changes http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/test/awardsVK/index.html?r1=1431543r2=1431858pathrev=1431858diff_format=h On 1/10/13, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: If you have time to put together a simple prototype I'd love to see what this would look like. Here is a prototype on JFiddler, feel free to add/remove: http://jsfiddle.net/Km7YC/ -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org -- Alexandro Colorado PPMC Apache OpenOffice http://es.openoffice.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org
Re: Open Office Award Page
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On 1/11/13, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Alphonso Whitfield III awhitfi...@vital-inet.com wrote: which one can I use or are we still in the draft stage? I was going to post it on my facebook and google plus page. please advise. I think we're still evaluating designs right now. I wonder why my commits are not making it to production, am I missing a step? I think so. It sounds like you are checking into SVN directly. That gets the changes under version control, but it is not automatically pushed onto the website. Here's what I do: 1) Check into SVN 2) Use the CMS bookmarklet to get into the CMS, at either the root, or the subdir that I'm working in. 3) The CMS then has an update button that does an svn update into the staging source directory. So it suck in the latest changes from SVN. 4) Then I wait for the site build to complete, usually only 20 seconds or so. This is applying the site template. 5) Then verify that staging build looks as you want. 6) Then click publish to send the generated HTML (with site template applied) to the production server. I just checked the server and saw that there were updates to ac.html that were in SVN but not on the webserver. So I just did the above steps, so the website should now have your latest. Ok just did that, I wonder how can I do this from the publish.pl script but I dont think I have it on the svn pull, maybe is further down the branch. Could I download it directly from the SVN an use it? or does the script have dependencies? Regards, -Rob -Rob Plan Your Work and Work Your Plan with The Vital Portal Alphonso Whitfield i...@thevitalportal.com Vital 912-816-2595 Skype: vital.i.net Visit us at: The Vital Portal The Vital Portal On facebook Visit our Google Community Join our Vital Portal Webinars at: The Vital Portal WebEx Meeting Center . - Original Message - From: Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org To: marketing@openoffice.apache.org Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 3:43:47 PM Subject: Re: Open Office Award Page On 1/11/13, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 2:15 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: Not sure why the site is not displaying the changes on the page but I also put it an update on JFiddler if anyone want to see the page in all it's CSS glory. (sorry no absolute image links). http://jsfiddle.net/Km7YC/2/ Looks like the CMS didn't push it out to the production server. I tool care of that, and also renamed the HTML so we can compare your version along side Kadal's: http://www.openoffice.org/test/awardsVK/ac.html and http://www.openoffice.org/test/awardsVK/vk.html I like that yours is pulling out the data info and giving that good placement. But the images are a bit disorganized. that's because the print.css also needs to be update so it can pull the style for the image tags. -Rob I have a CSS rule that might need change since I specify a standard height, but I see some of the descriptions are quite large, I have some reservations since some of the quotes seems to be unrelated to OpenOffice itself. Also thinking about maybe using JQuery-scrolldown behavior and have kind of a folding event, so users can only see the header, and click on them to read the quote dynamically. Look at the demo on the reference to get a sense of the behavior. http://api.jquery.com/slideToggle/ Thoughts? On 1/10/13, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: Put some commits on the page with the proposed changes http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/test/awardsVK/index.html?r1=1431543r2=1431858pathrev=1431858diff_format=h On 1/10/13, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: If you have time to put together a simple prototype I'd love to see what this would look like. Here is a prototype on JFiddler, feel free to add/remove: http://jsfiddle.net/Km7YC/ -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org -- Alexandro Colorado PPMC Apache OpenOffice http://es.openoffice.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org
Re: Open Office Award Page
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On 1/11/13, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Alphonso Whitfield III awhitfi...@vital-inet.com wrote: which one can I use or are we still in the draft stage? I was going to post it on my facebook and google plus page. please advise. I think we're still evaluating designs right now. I wonder why my commits are not making it to production, am I missing a step? I think so. It sounds like you are checking into SVN directly. That gets the changes under version control, but it is not automatically pushed onto the website. Here's what I do: 1) Check into SVN 2) Use the CMS bookmarklet to get into the CMS, at either the root, or the subdir that I'm working in. 3) The CMS then has an update button that does an svn update into the staging source directory. So it suck in the latest changes from SVN. 4) Then I wait for the site build to complete, usually only 20 seconds or so. This is applying the site template. 5) Then verify that staging build looks as you want. 6) Then click publish to send the generated HTML (with site template applied) to the production server. I just checked the server and saw that there were updates to ac.html that were in SVN but not on the webserver. So I just did the above steps, so the website should now have your latest. Ok just did that, I wonder how can I do this from the publish.pl script but I dont think I have it on the svn pull, maybe is further down the branch. Could I download it directly from the SVN an use it? or does the script have dependencies? Personally I have not tried it that way, but this page suggests it is possible: http://www.apache.org/dev/cmsref.html Thanks is odd that the instructions are not that easy to find, they are embeded on the comments on the script. Turns out just doing this will work: ssh -t $u...@people.apache.org publish.pl $project $user I just wonder if the $project is 'openoffice' or 'aoo' my guess is the first. -Rob Regards, -Rob -Rob Plan Your Work and Work Your Plan with The Vital Portal Alphonso Whitfield i...@thevitalportal.com Vital 912-816-2595 Skype: vital.i.net Visit us at: The Vital Portal The Vital Portal On facebook Visit our Google Community Join our Vital Portal Webinars at: The Vital Portal WebEx Meeting Center . - Original Message - From: Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org To: marketing@openoffice.apache.org Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 3:43:47 PM Subject: Re: Open Office Award Page On 1/11/13, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 2:15 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: Not sure why the site is not displaying the changes on the page but I also put it an update on JFiddler if anyone want to see the page in all it's CSS glory. (sorry no absolute image links). http://jsfiddle.net/Km7YC/2/ Looks like the CMS didn't push it out to the production server. I tool care of that, and also renamed the HTML so we can compare your version along side Kadal's: http://www.openoffice.org/test/awardsVK/ac.html and http://www.openoffice.org/test/awardsVK/vk.html I like that yours is pulling out the data info and giving that good placement. But the images are a bit disorganized. that's because the print.css also needs to be update so it can pull the style for the image tags. -Rob I have a CSS rule that might need change since I specify a standard height, but I see some of the descriptions are quite large, I have some reservations since some of the quotes seems to be unrelated to OpenOffice itself. Also thinking about maybe using JQuery-scrolldown behavior and have kind of a folding event, so users can only see the header, and click on them to read the quote dynamically. Look at the demo on the reference to get a sense of the behavior. http://api.jquery.com/slideToggle/ Thoughts? On 1/10/13, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: Put some commits on the page with the proposed changes http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/test/awardsVK/index.html?r1=1431543r2=1431858pathrev=1431858diff_format=h On 1/10/13, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: If you have time to put together a simple prototype I'd love to see what this would look like. Here is a prototype on JFiddler, feel free
Re: Open Office Award Page
On 1/11/13, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 2:15 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: Not sure why the site is not displaying the changes on the page but I also put it an update on JFiddler if anyone want to see the page in all it's CSS glory. (sorry no absolute image links). http://jsfiddle.net/Km7YC/2/ Looks like the CMS didn't push it out to the production server. I tool care of that, and also renamed the HTML so we can compare your version along side Kadal's: http://www.openoffice.org/test/awardsVK/ac.html and http://www.openoffice.org/test/awardsVK/vk.html I like that yours is pulling out the data info and giving that good placement. But the images are a bit disorganized. that's because the print.css also needs to be update so it can pull the style for the image tags. -Rob I have a CSS rule that might need change since I specify a standard height, but I see some of the descriptions are quite large, I have some reservations since some of the quotes seems to be unrelated to OpenOffice itself. Also thinking about maybe using JQuery-scrolldown behavior and have kind of a folding event, so users can only see the header, and click on them to read the quote dynamically. Look at the demo on the reference to get a sense of the behavior. http://api.jquery.com/slideToggle/ Thoughts? On 1/10/13, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: Put some commits on the page with the proposed changes http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/test/awardsVK/index.html?r1=1431543r2=1431858pathrev=1431858diff_format=h On 1/10/13, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: If you have time to put together a simple prototype I'd love to see what this would look like. Here is a prototype on JFiddler, feel free to add/remove: http://jsfiddle.net/Km7YC/ -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org -- Alexandro Colorado PPMC Apache OpenOffice http://es.openoffice.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org
Re: Open Office Award Page
Not sure why the site is not displaying the changes on the page but I also put it an update on JFiddler if anyone want to see the page in all it's CSS glory. (sorry no absolute image links). http://jsfiddle.net/Km7YC/2/ I have a CSS rule that might need change since I specify a standard height, but I see some of the descriptions are quite large, I have some reservations since some of the quotes seems to be unrelated to OpenOffice itself. Also thinking about maybe using JQuery-scrolldown behavior and have kind of a folding event, so users can only see the header, and click on them to read the quote dynamically. Look at the demo on the reference to get a sense of the behavior. http://api.jquery.com/slideToggle/ Thoughts? On 1/10/13, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: Put some commits on the page with the proposed changes http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/test/awardsVK/index.html?r1=1431543r2=1431858pathrev=1431858diff_format=h On 1/10/13, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: If you have time to put together a simple prototype I'd love to see what this would look like. Here is a prototype on JFiddler, feel free to add/remove: http://jsfiddle.net/Km7YC/ -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org -- Alexandro Colorado PPMC Apache OpenOffice http://es.openoffice.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org
Re: Open Office Award Page
hi I think the page is too blue, and also would avoid using tables. I
would also suggest on usiing a JQuery plugin that display the caption
on the selection of items.
Something like the following:
$('.show_p').click(function () {
$($('#r_'+$(this).attr('id'))).toggle('fast');
});
And the HTML:
h3 class=show_p id=p3InfoWorld's Bossie (Best Of Open Source)
Awards - September 2012/h3
p class=hide id=r_p3We received two Bossie Awards in 2012, both
in the Desktop category./p
On 1/9/13, Kadal Amutham vka...@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Mr. Rob
Check the following ling thewink.in/AOO/. I have modified the page. Let me
have your comments.
Others also can comment so that the page can be improved further
With Warm Regards
V.Kadal Amutham
919444360480
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Alexandro Colorado
PPMC Apache OpenOffice
http://es.openoffice.org
Re: Xmass is gone what's next.
On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: [Alexandro] next major celebration or just return to the traditional logo and look forward on bigger tasks like the new theme. What else has widespread interest? I would use the normal logo except for the end-of-year holidays and for exceptional cases where we want to celebrate something where the OpenOffice community has an active, prominent role. +1 So I would understand that we use a special variant of the logo again for the language day on February 21 (only if OpenOffice does something to celebrate it: engaging the L10N community, calling for translation volunteers...) and for the Document Freedom Day on March 27 (since OpenOffice is one of the big players here, and should celebrate as such). ApacheCon could be another occasion. I have contributed to the Document Freedom Day in the past with some artwork and localization. Would be fun to do something this year with some time in advanced and having AOO people involved. That said in the past we tried the idea of mini-sites dedicated to Software Freedom Day and Document Freedom Day. Regards, Andrea. -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org
Xmass is gone what's next.
Unfortunately we didnt act for 2013 new years eve (something to consider for next year) we could ask for 2014 graphics already. :) So what's next, next major celebration or just return to the traditional logo and look forward on bigger tasks like the new theme. I have been thinking about using free fonts from OpenFontLibrary to theme our site which currently used a bit of a traditional fonts. One of my fonts are Junction, Didact Gothic. Confortaa http://openfontlibrary.org/en/font/junction http://openfontlibrary.org/en/font/didact-gothic http://openfontlibrary.org/en/font/comfortaa As far as colors, I think we need more colors and change the design of the menus. Get rid of the top bar, side bar and embrace a more vectorial and modern feel to it. Things like landing sites that are more scroll intensive and less compartamentalize. Looking at Gnome.org Mozilla.org Calligra-Suite.org and KDE.org this seems to be the case. So I guess a first layout of these would be a good way to start talking about the future of the site. -- Alexandro Colorado PPMC Apache OpenOffice http://es.openoffice.org
Re: Holiday Season tutorial
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Drew Jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.comwrote: Here is one that has nothing to do with desktop suites http://cards.codecademy.com/ Anyway - it's a little late for Christmas on this. In the US Mother's Day might be a good tie in for this, or even Valentines day. Normally I would say that AOO isn't really the best tool for this, but there is one place where I know it, and MSO, is used quite a bit for this exact purpose, in Jails. There are few local in-facility libraries I've worked with to setup the software and this is a big deal there. So I've got some templates put together for this already, all use standard letter size paper, no pre-made card stock available. There are two fold and four fold templates. It would be possible to put something together from that I would think. Are there on our template website? //drew On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 10:08 PM, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote: On 2012/12/24 10:59, Alexandro Colorado said: I know is a bit, quarter to the hour, but I was hoping any writer could do a Season tutorial on Doing holiday cards with OpenOffice Writer and OpenClipart. How about Doing holiday cards with OpenOffice Calc and Basic? I already made two. :p http://people.apache.org/~imacat/xmastree.ods http://people.apache.org/~imacat/piano-quest-20121221.zip Just kidding. I have several reports at the dead line. :p There's no holiday for graduate students. ^^; Bruce Byfield already wrote a similar version althought without the season spirit. http://www.linuxjournal.com/node/1000428 If anyone wants to take the task on creating a season tutorial and maybe spread the love across the Social Networks and Blogs of AOO. Merry Xmass everyone. -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org
Holiday Season tutorial
I know is a bit, quarter to the hour, but I was hoping any writer could do a Season tutorial on Doing holiday cards with OpenOffice Writer and OpenClipart. Bruce Byfield already wrote a similar version althought without the season spirit. http://www.linuxjournal.com/node/1000428 If anyone wants to take the task on creating a season tutorial and maybe spread the love across the Social Networks and Blogs of AOO. Merry Xmass everyone. -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org
Re: Christmas theme for OO site
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.orgwrote: Alexandro Colorado wrote: Most years around Xmass we theme the site with a Season graphic or design, wonder if we would do somerhing for this year. Why not? Feel free to propose enhancements. We have three suitable DIVs in the HTML code, bannerleft, bannerright and bannercenter where a small decoration could be placed. This would then be automatically applied to all pages. When you have a mockup, please send it to the main mailing list (ooo-dev) too, since it will impact the whole website and everybody should be aware of it. Regards, Andrea. I remeber art had already some seasoned logos. Also there are some ideas from the firefox people http://www.accessfirefox.org/Mozilla_Holiday_Graphics.php Could easily be adapted to OO sphere logo. This is the old logo I had with the Xmass add-ons. http://imagebin.org/240155 -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org
Re: Website style disconnect
I also think typography goes a long way, having some great font on the page could really do a facelift without disrupting the CSS that much. On 12/19/12, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: Also been working with Jan to acomodate the mWiki theme, since the new mediawiki come with a diferent CSS than the old Monobook theme. However this should be intune with the current www.openoffice.org style. Lets work together to make AOO site look in tune. On 12/19/12, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: cc'ing the marketing list, since we have some recent volunteers who said they had web design skills. We have two websites for the project: 1) A public-facing website at http://www.openoffice.org 2) A project-facing website at http://openoffice.apache.org In practice the distinction is not always clear. There are many links that cross from one website to another. For example, a user starting at http://www.openoffice.org/ and clicking the I want to Participate in OpenOffice ends on on this project page here: http://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html. The websites have a similar look, but they differ in many small ways, and the cumulative effect of these differences is discordant (IMHO). To draw out the difference, I made two identical test pages that illustrate how the different style sheets treat common HTML constructs, and differences in page headers/footers: See: http://openoffice.apache.org/style-test.html and http://www.openoffice.org/style-test.html Note, for example, how our tagline differs between the pages. Also, the default font size on the openoffice.org is smaller than on openoffice.apache.org. IMHO this is too small for default text. There are other things that are common between the two sites, but perhaps are non-optimal, like: 1) We're really not distinguishing blockquotes well. We're just indenting. Maybe we can add a left-aligned vertical bar? 2) The yellow background of the pre block is a bit extreme. Maybe something more subtle? 3) The hierarchy of headers only deals with H1 and H2. I'm willing to help here, on integration of new stylesheets, getting stuff checked in, etc. But I have neither the taste nor the talent to design a good looking set of styles. Trust me, you do not want be to do design work. So I'm hoping that someone reading this can volunteer to take the lead in proposing a good, modern, professional set of styles that we can use across both websites. Thanks! -Rob -- Alexandro Colorado PPMC Apache OpenOffice http://es.openoffice.org -- Alexandro Colorado PPMC Apache OpenOffice http://es.openoffice.org
Christmas theme for OO site
Most years around Xmass we theme the site with a Season graphic or design, wonder if we would do somerhing for this year. Similar to the Google Doodles that are made any other special date. -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org
Re: Introduction - NEW volunteer
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 1:57 AM, Kadal Amutham vka...@gmail.com wrote: Will it be worth while to collect the details of name , phone number, country, native language, best time to call, and put in some spread-sheet, data base? This is a public list that can be viewed from the internet so is not a good idea to post private information unless you understand the risks. With Warm Regards V.Kadal Amutham On 27 November 2012 13:14, Larry Sadler s...@torfree.net wrote: Salutations Quick profile: * started using StarOffice 4.x * have been using OO regularly then exclusively since * hold Bachelor of Business and Master of Business degrees * major in finance, minor in computers * Financial Manager for 8 years * IT Services Manager for 8 years * currently freelance * not a programmer * located in Toronto Canada [at least for now] * only fluent in English * experienced with not for profit organizations * open to suggestions where\how to jump in L -- Larry Sadler 416.354.2952 -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org
