Re: Friends of GNOME subscription enhancements

[Lefty (石鏡 )]

Sorry, my bad. I’m catching up with email after fighting off a
post-Gran-Canaria bug. Inverse in-box problem, if you know what I mean.

I sincerely apologize, and will endeavor not to repeat this irresponsible
behavior in the future... =D


On 7/21/09 3:45 PM, "Stormy Peters"  wrote:

> That kind of misses the point of the experiment that Andre pointed to where
> "you should" made a big difference.
> 
> http://dustincurtis.com/you_should_follow_me_on_twitter.html
> 
> Stormy
> 
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Lefty (石鏡 )  wrote:
>> One minor tweak, perhaps.
>> 
>> I’m not so happy with the “You should”, myself, on two counts:
>> 
>> “Donate! Become a Friend of GNOME and help provide a free desktop for all
>> users!” 
>> 
>> gets rid of two unnecessary words, and “should” for me has a connotation of
>> obligation, and invites me to think “Well, I know I should, but...” They know
>> they’re “you”; don’t tell ‘em what they should do―they don’t do what they
>> should do all day long, and so do I―tell ‘em what to do.
>> 
>> (Also, I like a stress―italicized?--on the word “all”. There’s an important
>> subtext in there, in terms of localization, of accessibility, etc. Maybe
>> we’ll even get that gender-neutral-ish equal-opportunity-ish thing working
>> sometime. Shoot me now.)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 7/21/09 3:20 PM, "Paul Cutler" >  > wrote:
>> 
>>> Correct grammar should be:
>>> 
>>> "Donate!? You should become a Friend of GNOME and help provide a free
>>> desktop for all users."
>>> 
>>> Sometimes it's the little things.? :)
>>> 
>>> Paul
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Andreas Nilsson >>  > wrote:
  ?
 On 07/21/2009 11:31 PM, Stormy Peters wrote:
> 
> ?
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Andre Klapper   > wrote:
> ?
>> Am Dienstag, den 21.07.2009, 14:47 -0600 schrieb Stormy Peters:
>> ?
>>> > "Donate to help support the GNOME Foundation's goal to provide a free
>>> > desktop for all users - become a Friend of GNOME"
>>> > or
>>> > "Donate - help support the GNOME Foundation's goal to provide a free
>>> > desktop for all users - become a Friend of GNOME"
>>> > or it could go in the title:
>>> > "Donate - Become a Friend of GNOME!"
>> ?
>> ?
>> Pardon that I don't remember who blogged/twittered/ed about
>> ?http://dustincurtis.com/you_should_follow_me_on_twitter.html in the last
>> days so I can't give credits.
>> ?
>> Proposal:
>> "Donate! - You should become a Friend of GNOME and help providing a free
>> desktop for all users."
>  
> 
> Let's try it!
> ?
> ?
 Heh, sounds brave and crazy. Done!
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Re: Friends of GNOME subscription enhancements

[Stormy Peters]

That kind of misses the point of the experiment that Andre pointed to where
"you should" made a big difference.

http://dustincurtis.com/you_should_follow_me_on_twitter.html

Stormy

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Lefty (石鏡 )  wrote:

>  One minor tweak, perhaps.
>
> I’m not so happy with the “You should”, myself, on two counts:
>
> “Donate! Become a Friend of GNOME and help provide a free desktop for *all
> *users!”
>
> gets rid of two unnecessary words, and “should” for me has a connotation of
> obligation, and invites me to think “Well, I know I *should*, but...” They
> know they’re “you”; don’t tell ‘em what they *should* do—they don’t do
> what they should do all day long, and so do I—tell ‘em what to *do*.
>
> (Also, I like a stress—italicized?--on the word “all”. There’s an important
> subtext in there, in terms of localization, of accessibility, etc. Maybe
> we’ll even get that gender-neutral-ish equal-opportunity-ish thing working
> sometime. Shoot me now.)
>
>
>
>
>
> On 7/21/09 3:20 PM, "Paul Cutler"  wrote:
>
> Correct grammar should be:
>
> "Donate!  You should become a Friend of GNOME and help provide a free
> desktop for all users."
>
> Sometimes it's the little things.  :)
>
> Paul
>
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Andreas Nilsson 
> wrote:
>
>
> On 07/21/2009 11:31 PM, Stormy Peters wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Andre Klapper  wrote:
>
>
> Am Dienstag, den 21.07.2009, 14:47 -0600 schrieb Stormy Peters:
>
> > "Donate to help support the GNOME Foundation's goal to provide a free
> > desktop for all users - become a Friend of GNOME"
> > or
> > "Donate - help support the GNOME Foundation's goal to provide a free
> > desktop for all users - become a Friend of GNOME"
> > or it could go in the title:
> > "Donate - Become a Friend of GNOME!"
>
>
> Pardon that I don't remember who blogged/twittered/ed about
>  http://dustincurtis.com/you_should_follow_me_on_twitter.html in the last
> days so I can't give credits.
>
> Proposal:
> "Donate! - You should become a Friend of GNOME and help providing a free
> desktop for all users."
>
>
>
> Let's try it!
>
>
>
> Heh, sounds brave and crazy. Done!
> - Andreas
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Re: Friends of GNOME June numbers

[Claus Schwarm]

On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 23:00 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote:
> Am Dienstag, den 21.07.2009, 21:13 +0200 schrieb Claus Schwarm:
> > The reason is not just that there's no visible link on the wgo front
> > page to wgo/friends! For if we look at what people really are looking
> > for on wgo, it's the project pages! Here are some examples from June:
> > 
> > 259,921 /
> >  72,288 /evolution/
> >  49,232 /dia/
> >  42,528 /NetworkManager/
> >  36,877 /totem/
> >  36,045 /rhythmbox/
> >  35,207 /anjuta/
> >  31,205 /tomboy/
> >  25,929 /gnumeric/
> >  24,462 /epiphany/
> > 
> > Btw, I don't know what's wrong here, but except for gnumeric, they all
> > 404'ed! If that's not just due to some problem with Webalizer, there's
> > lots of traffic we ignore. Why are there no proper 301 redirects for
> > these pages?
> 
> I wonder where this comes from.
> There has never been an URL like http://www.gnome.org/evolution .
> The URL always was http://www.gnome.org/projects/evolution and now gets
> correctly redirected to http://projects.gnome.org/evolution .
> 
> andre

Indeed. How strange.

Would it be possible to figure this out? The referrers for these hits
should be in the Apache log, shouldn't they?


Best regards,
Claus

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Re: Friends of GNOME June numbers

[Claus Schwarm]

Yes, we should do these both.

Concerning trying different things out: It's not a good idea to make a
sequential change. The result could be skewed due to external
influences.

Better to make a proper split test. The /friends/ page seem to be using
jQuery anyway, so it should not be too complicated for our hackers to
make a script that replaces certain parts of the text and add a tracking
code to the result URL /friends/step2.php.

For example, the control headline could gets "&ref=1" added to the URL
while experimental headline could get "&ref=2" added.

Then, we would need to track these in a database or text file with the
php code of step2.php. Maybe, we could also add these to the paypal
link, so we'd could test the second step page, too.

This way, we could track what changes perform better and whether people
stop after the initial step. It might not be perfect but it's better
then dealing with external influences.


Best regards,
Claus


On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 14:52 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote:
> Thanks, Claus. Data is always really, really helpful!
> 
> So it sounds like we should do two things:
> 1) Work on improving the text on Friends of GNOME
> 2) Add donate buttons or links on the project pages
> 
> For #1, we could try different things out for a couple of weeks at a
> time and see what the impact is.
> 
> Stormy
> 
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Claus Schwarm
>  wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 04:20 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote:
> > The file is good now.
> >
> > The latest Friends of GNOME numbers are on the wiki,
> >
> >
> 
> http://live.gnome.org/action/AttachFile/GnomeMarketing/Tasks/FriendsOfGNOME?action=AttachFile
> >
> > As you can see, while we had a good April and a terrific
> May, June
> > numbers are way down. It underscores why subscriptions are
> so
> > important - that's the only number that held steady.
> >
> > I think we could use a Friends of GNOME campaign to
> encourage people
> > to sign up and to get their friends to sign up ...
> >
> 
> 
> Well, there are a number of factors. You may like to add some
> numbers
> from the statistics page of www.gnome.org, available here:
> 
> http://www.gnome.org/stats/
> 
> I just did and there's several points that might be helpful.
> First, I
> tried to get a measure of "conversions" of the wgo/friends
> page, that
> is: I related the number of donors to the number of visitors
> of the
> wgo/friends page. Here's the result:
> 
> Jan 20090.92
> Feb 20090.61
> Mar 20090.70
> Apr 20091.42
> May 20092.23
> Jun 20091.61
> 
> Compared to the previous month, the June numbers are not as
> good, but
> it's still better then Apr 2009!
> 
> Unfortunately, the result is bad, overall.
> 
> The visitor numbers are taken from a field in the monthly
> stats called
> "Top 10 of X Total Entry Pages". In other words, that's the
> number of
> visitors who directly surfed to wgo/friends/ -- probably from
> the linked
> images, maybe from urls in post on planet.gnome.org, maybe
> from other
> sources. It probably does not include people who came
> to /friends/ from
> within wgo!
> 
> Thus, it's very likely that the total number of visitors is
> higher than
> the numbers I could use. The conversion rate is thus lower in
> reality.
> 
> And it's also likely that our first friends-of-gnome campaign
> just
> reached those people who are very involved in gnome. Of
> course, their
> number is rather small, so it was to be expected that we could
> only a
> "spike".
> 
> So, the first "result" is this: There are two reasons for the
> drop in
> June. (1) The average amount of donations dropped. (2) The
> text on the
> friends page does not "sell". We need to write a better one.
> 
> 
> Second, let's have a look at what I call "leads": This is the
> number of
> visitors for wgo/friends/ in relation to the number of
> visitors of all
> pages under www.gnome.org:
> 
> Jan 20091.27
> Feb 20090.77
> Mar 20090.83
> Apr 20090.83
> May 20091.20
> Jun 20090.82
> 
> Overall, we don't even get 1 percent of all visitors of the
> wgo pages to
> look at the wgo/friends page. Maybe, we could improve this
> one, too?
> 
> The reason is not just that there's no visible 

Re: Friends of GNOME subscription enhancements

[Lefty (石鏡 )]

One minor tweak, perhaps.

I¹m not so happy with the ³You should², myself, on two counts:

³Donate! Become a Friend of GNOME and help provide a free desktop for all
users!² 

gets rid of two unnecessary words, and ³should² for me has a connotation of
obligation, and invites me to think ³Well, I know I should, but...² They
know they¹re ³you²; don¹t tell Œem what they should do‹they don¹t do what
they should do all day long, and so do I‹tell Œem what to do.

(Also, I like a stress‹italicized?--on the word ³all². There¹s an important
subtext in there, in terms of localization, of accessibility, etc. Maybe
we¹ll even get that gender-neutral-ish equal-opportunity-ish thing working
sometime. Shoot me now.)




On 7/21/09 3:20 PM, "Paul Cutler"  wrote:

> Correct grammar should be:
> 
> "Donate!  You should become a Friend of GNOME and help provide a free
> desktop for all users."
> 
> Sometimes it's the little things.  :)
> 
> Paul
> 
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Andreas Nilsson  wrote:
>>   
>> On 07/21/2009 11:31 PM, Stormy Peters wrote:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Andre Klapper  wrote:
>>>  
 Am Dienstag, den 21.07.2009, 14:47 -0600 schrieb Stormy Peters:
  
> > "Donate to help support the GNOME Foundation's goal to provide a free
> > desktop for all users - become a Friend of GNOME"
> > or
> > "Donate - help support the GNOME Foundation's goal to provide a free
> > desktop for all users - become a Friend of GNOME"
> > or it could go in the title:
> > "Donate - Become a Friend of GNOME!"
  
  
 Pardon that I don't remember who blogged/twittered/ed about
  http://dustincurtis.com/you_should_follow_me_on_twitter.html in the last
 days so I can't give credits.
  
 Proposal:
 "Donate! - You should become a Friend of GNOME and help providing a free
 desktop for all users."
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Let's try it!
>>>  
>>>  
>> Heh, sounds brave and crazy. Done!
>> - Andreas
>> 
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Re: Friends of GNOME subscription enhancements

[Paul Cutler]

Correct grammar should be:

"Donate!  You should become a Friend of GNOME and help provide a free
desktop for all users."

Sometimes it's the little things.  :)

Paul

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Andreas Nilsson wrote:

>  On 07/21/2009 11:31 PM, Stormy Peters wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Andre Klapper  wrote:
>
>> Am Dienstag, den 21.07.2009, 14:47 -0600 schrieb Stormy Peters:
>> > "Donate to help support the GNOME Foundation's goal to provide a free
>> > desktop for all users - become a Friend of GNOME"
>> > or
>> > "Donate - help support the GNOME Foundation's goal to provide a free
>> > desktop for all users - become a Friend of GNOME"
>> > or it could go in the title:
>> > "Donate - Become a Friend of GNOME!"
>>
>>  Pardon that I don't remember who blogged/twittered/ed about
>> http://dustincurtis.com/you_should_follow_me_on_twitter.html in the last
>> days so I can't give credits.
>>
>> Proposal:
>> "Donate! - You should become a Friend of GNOME and help providing a free
>> desktop for all users."
>
>
> Let's try it!
>
> Heh, sounds brave and crazy. Done!
> - Andreas
>
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Re: Friends of GNOME subscription enhancements

[Andreas Nilsson]

On 07/21/2009 11:31 PM, Stormy Peters wrote:


On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Andre Klapper > wrote:


Am Dienstag, den 21.07.2009, 14:47 -0600 schrieb Stormy Peters:
> "Donate to help support the GNOME Foundation's goal to provide a
free
> desktop for all users - become a Friend of GNOME"
> or
> "Donate - help support the GNOME Foundation's goal to provide a free
> desktop for all users - become a Friend of GNOME"
> or it could go in the title:
> "Donate - Become a Friend of GNOME!"

Pardon that I don't remember who blogged/twittered/ed about
http://dustincurtis.com/you_should_follow_me_on_twitter.html in
the last
days so I can't give credits.

Proposal:
"Donate! - You should become a Friend of GNOME and help providing
a free
desktop for all users."


Let's try it!

Heh, sounds brave and crazy. Done!
- Andreas
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Re: Friends of GNOME subscription enhancements

[Stormy Peters]

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Andre Klapper  wrote:

> Ahoj,
>
> Am Dienstag, den 21.07.2009, 14:47 -0600 schrieb Stormy Peters:
> > "Donate to help support the GNOME Foundation's goal to provide a free
> > desktop for all users - become a Friend of GNOME"
> > or
> > "Donate - help support the GNOME Foundation's goal to provide a free
> > desktop for all users - become a Friend of GNOME"
> > or it could go in the title:
> > "Donate - Become a Friend of GNOME!"
>
> Pardon that I don't remember who blogged/twittered/ed about
> http://dustincurtis.com/you_should_follow_me_on_twitter.html in the last
> days so I can't give credits.
>
> Proposal:
> "Donate! - You should become a Friend of GNOME and help providing a free
> desktop for all users."


Let's try it!

Stormy

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Re: Friends of GNOME subscription enhancements

[Andre Klapper]

Ahoj,

Am Dienstag, den 21.07.2009, 14:47 -0600 schrieb Stormy Peters:
> "Donate to help support the GNOME Foundation's goal to provide a free
> desktop for all users - become a Friend of GNOME"
> or
> "Donate - help support the GNOME Foundation's goal to provide a free
> desktop for all users - become a Friend of GNOME"
> or it could go in the title:
> "Donate - Become a Friend of GNOME!"

Pardon that I don't remember who blogged/twittered/ed about
http://dustincurtis.com/you_should_follow_me_on_twitter.html in the last
days so I can't give credits.

Proposal:
"Donate! - You should become a Friend of GNOME and help providing a free
desktop for all users."

andre
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Re: First version of GNOME amazon store online

[Stormy Peters]

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Jaap A. Haitsma  wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 22:43, Stormy Peters wrote:
> > Can we call it "GNOME laptops"?
>
> Sure, not sure if they are all running GNOME though but I've renamed it now


The Eee PC's aren't. (They use GNOME games and a few other apps, I think.)
The others I believe all use GNOME.

>
>
> I'm leaving for a business trip to the US tomorrow and a busy week
> next week so I probably won't have much time to do something on this
> in the coming days.
>

Thanks for all your work. Have a safe and productive trip!

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Re: Friends of GNOME June numbers

[Andre Klapper]

Am Dienstag, den 21.07.2009, 21:13 +0200 schrieb Claus Schwarm:
> The reason is not just that there's no visible link on the wgo front
> page to wgo/friends! For if we look at what people really are looking
> for on wgo, it's the project pages! Here are some examples from June:
> 
> 259,921 /
>  72,288   /evolution/
>  49,232 /dia/
>  42,528 /NetworkManager/
>  36,877 /totem/
>  36,045 /rhythmbox/
>  35,207 /anjuta/
>  31,205 /tomboy/
>  25,929 /gnumeric/
>  24,462 /epiphany/
> 
> Btw, I don't know what's wrong here, but except for gnumeric, they all
> 404'ed! If that's not just due to some problem with Webalizer, there's
> lots of traffic we ignore. Why are there no proper 301 redirects for
> these pages?

I wonder where this comes from.
There has never been an URL like http://www.gnome.org/evolution .
The URL always was http://www.gnome.org/projects/evolution and now gets
correctly redirected to http://projects.gnome.org/evolution .

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Re: First version of GNOME amazon store online

[Jaap A. Haitsma]

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 22:43, Stormy Peters wrote:
> Can we call it "GNOME laptops"?

Sure, not sure if they are all running GNOME though but I've renamed it now

> Are you ready for me to push this via
> twitter or do you want me to hold off?
>

Probably better to just mention that we're building the store and
invite them to join the discussion here.
Probably best to finish it up first (the links to the international
stores, extensions) before giving the big push. We also need a link
from the friends of GNOME page and the main gnome page I think.

I'm leaving for a business trip to the US tomorrow and a busy week
next week so I probably won't have much time to do something on this
in the coming days.

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Re: Friends of GNOME June numbers

[Stormy Peters]

Thanks, Claus. Data is always really, really helpful!

So it sounds like we should do two things:
1) Work on improving the text on Friends of GNOME
2) Add donate buttons or links on the project pages

For #1, we could try different things out for a couple of weeks at a time
and see what the impact is.

Stormy

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Claus Schwarm wrote:

> On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 04:20 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote:
> > The file is good now.
> >
> > The latest Friends of GNOME numbers are on the wiki,
> >
> >
> http://live.gnome.org/action/AttachFile/GnomeMarketing/Tasks/FriendsOfGNOME?action=AttachFile
> >
> > As you can see, while we had a good April and a terrific May, June
> > numbers are way down. It underscores why subscriptions are so
> > important - that's the only number that held steady.
> >
> > I think we could use a Friends of GNOME campaign to encourage people
> > to sign up and to get their friends to sign up ...
> >
>
> Well, there are a number of factors. You may like to add some numbers
> from the statistics page of www.gnome.org, available here:
>
> http://www.gnome.org/stats/
>
> I just did and there's several points that might be helpful. First, I
> tried to get a measure of "conversions" of the wgo/friends page, that
> is: I related the number of donors to the number of visitors of the
> wgo/friends page. Here's the result:
>
> Jan 20090.92
> Feb 20090.61
> Mar 20090.70
> Apr 20091.42
> May 20092.23
> Jun 20091.61
>
> Compared to the previous month, the June numbers are not as good, but
> it's still better then Apr 2009!
>
> Unfortunately, the result is bad, overall.
>
> The visitor numbers are taken from a field in the monthly stats called
> "Top 10 of X Total Entry Pages". In other words, that's the number of
> visitors who directly surfed to wgo/friends/ -- probably from the linked
> images, maybe from urls in post on planet.gnome.org, maybe from other
> sources. It probably does not include people who came to /friends/ from
> within wgo!
>
> Thus, it's very likely that the total number of visitors is higher than
> the numbers I could use. The conversion rate is thus lower in reality.
>
> And it's also likely that our first friends-of-gnome campaign just
> reached those people who are very involved in gnome. Of course, their
> number is rather small, so it was to be expected that we could only a
> "spike".
>
> So, the first "result" is this: There are two reasons for the drop in
> June. (1) The average amount of donations dropped. (2) The text on the
> friends page does not "sell". We need to write a better one.
>
>
> Second, let's have a look at what I call "leads": This is the number of
> visitors for wgo/friends/ in relation to the number of visitors of all
> pages under www.gnome.org:
>
> Jan 20091.27
> Feb 20090.77
> Mar 20090.83
> Apr 20090.83
> May 20091.20
> Jun 20090.82
>
> Overall, we don't even get 1 percent of all visitors of the wgo pages to
> look at the wgo/friends page. Maybe, we could improve this one, too?
>
> The reason is not just that there's no visible link on the wgo front
> page to wgo/friends! For if we look at what people really are looking
> for on wgo, it's the project pages! Here are some examples from June:
>
> 259,921 /
>  72,288 /evolution/
>  49,232 /dia/
>  42,528 /NetworkManager/
>  36,877 /totem/
>  36,045 /rhythmbox/
>  35,207 /anjuta/
>  31,205 /tomboy/
>  25,929 /gnumeric/
>  24,462 /epiphany/
>
> Btw, I don't know what's wrong here, but except for gnumeric, they all
> 404'ed! If that's not just due to some problem with Webalizer, there's
> lots of traffic we ignore. Why are there no proper 301 redirects for
> these pages?
>
> So the other "result" is this: We need to plug friends-of-gnome
> images/links on all the project homepages, if we want more leads for the
> wgo/friends/ page, not just the wgo front page. And we need to make
> sure, these urls are redirected.
>
> On a general side note, Webalizer is not really sufficient to track
> stuff like this.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Claus
>
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Re: Friends of GNOME June numbers

[Paul Cutler]

The sysadmin team hasn't tackled it yet.  Jeff is looking in to the security
concerns with piwik, but there are some other projects they're working on
ahead of it.

Paul

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Jaap A. Haitsma  wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 21:13, Claus Schwarm
> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 04:20 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote:
> >> The file is good now.
> >>
> >> The latest Friends of GNOME numbers are on the wiki,
> >>
> >>
> http://live.gnome.org/action/AttachFile/GnomeMarketing/Tasks/FriendsOfGNOME?action=AttachFile
> >>
> >> As you can see, while we had a good April and a terrific May, June
> >> numbers are way down. It underscores why subscriptions are so
> >> important - that's the only number that held steady.
> >>
> >> I think we could use a Friends of GNOME campaign to encourage people
> >> to sign up and to get their friends to sign up ...
> >>
> >
> > Well, there are a number of factors. You may like to add some numbers
> > from the statistics page of www.gnome.org, available here:
> >
> > http://www.gnome.org/stats/
> >
> > I just did and there's several points that might be helpful. First, I
> > tried to get a measure of "conversions" of the wgo/friends page, that
> > is: I related the number of donors to the number of visitors of the
> > wgo/friends page. Here's the result:
> >
> > Jan 20090.92
> > Feb 20090.61
> > Mar 20090.70
> > Apr 20091.42
> > May 20092.23
> > Jun 20091.61
> >
> > Compared to the previous month, the June numbers are not as good, but
> > it's still better then Apr 2009!
> >
> > Unfortunately, the result is bad, overall.
> >
> > The visitor numbers are taken from a field in the monthly stats called
> > "Top 10 of X Total Entry Pages". In other words, that's the number of
> > visitors who directly surfed to wgo/friends/ -- probably from the linked
> > images, maybe from urls in post on planet.gnome.org, maybe from other
> > sources. It probably does not include people who came to /friends/ from
> > within wgo!
> >
> > Thus, it's very likely that the total number of visitors is higher than
> > the numbers I could use. The conversion rate is thus lower in reality.
> >
> > And it's also likely that our first friends-of-gnome campaign just
> > reached those people who are very involved in gnome. Of course, their
> > number is rather small, so it was to be expected that we could only a
> > "spike".
> >
> > So, the first "result" is this: There are two reasons for the drop in
> > June. (1) The average amount of donations dropped. (2) The text on the
> > friends page does not "sell". We need to write a better one.
> >
> >
> > Second, let's have a look at what I call "leads": This is the number of
> > visitors for wgo/friends/ in relation to the number of visitors of all
> > pages under www.gnome.org:
> >
> > Jan 20091.27
> > Feb 20090.77
> > Mar 20090.83
> > Apr 20090.83
> > May 20091.20
> > Jun 20090.82
> >
> > Overall, we don't even get 1 percent of all visitors of the wgo pages to
> > look at the wgo/friends page. Maybe, we could improve this one, too?
> >
> > The reason is not just that there's no visible link on the wgo front
> > page to wgo/friends! For if we look at what people really are looking
> > for on wgo, it's the project pages! Here are some examples from June:
> >
> > 259,921 /
> >  72,288 /evolution/
> >  49,232 /dia/
> >  42,528 /NetworkManager/
> >  36,877 /totem/
> >  36,045 /rhythmbox/
> >  35,207 /anjuta/
> >  31,205 /tomboy/
> >  25,929 /gnumeric/
> >  24,462 /epiphany/
> >
> > Btw, I don't know what's wrong here, but except for gnumeric, they all
> > 404'ed! If that's not just due to some problem with Webalizer, there's
> > lots of traffic we ignore. Why are there no proper 301 redirects for
> > these pages?
> >
> > So the other "result" is this: We need to plug friends-of-gnome
> > images/links on all the project homepages, if we want more leads for the
> > wgo/friends/ page, not just the wgo front page. And we need to make
> > sure, these urls are redirected.
> >
> > On a general side note, Webalizer is not really sufficient to track
> > stuff like this.
> >
> Nice analysis but I agree with Clause that we need a better tool. Some
> weeks ago there was discussion about installing piwik
> http://piwik.org/
> The sysadmin team had some security concerns
>
> Stormy do you know what the status is now?
>
> Jaap
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Re: Friends of GNOME subscription enhancements

[Stormy Peters]

Thanks!

Can I suggest a minor word change? We should include the word "Donate"
prominently since that's what people might be looking for.

"Donate to help support the GNOME Foundation's goal to provide a free
desktop for all users - become a Friend of GNOME"
or
"Donate - help support the GNOME Foundation's goal to provide a free desktop
for all users - become a Friend of GNOME"
or it could go in the title:
"Donate - Become a Friend of GNOME!"

Two minor things:

   - There's an extra space after the Friends section.
   - We should end the title in a "!" for consistency.

Stormy


On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Andreas Nilsson wrote:

>  Done!
> - Andreas
>
>
> On 07/21/2009 03:51 PM, Paul Cutler wrote:
>
> Not sure if this paragraph header fits, but here's a first draft, using
> similar copy from the Friends page:
>
> Become a Friend of GNOME
>
> Help support the GNOME Foundation's goal to provide a free desktop for all
> users - become a Friend of GNOME. Your donation will ensure that GNOME
> continues to be a free and open source desktop.  Learn more and become a
> Friend of GNOME today!  (With links to www.gnome.org/friends in the last
> sentence)
>
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
>
>>  On 07/21/2009 03:13 PM, Paul Cutler wrote:
>>
>> June data is out, and subscriptions went way down:
>> http://blogs.gnome.org/foundation/2009/07/21/friends-of-gnome-update-3/
>>
>> I thought it was interesting that subscriptions was the same (100) for May
>> and June.
>>
>> In addition to some of the updates to the program Stormy mentions below
>> that Jaap volunteered to help with, there are a few more things that have
>> been discussed that I was hoping to follow up on:
>>
>> * Thermometer - shows donation data as it grows (Shaun & Andreas, I
>> believe you were working on this?  Any updates?)
>>
>>  Still in progress. I still need to do graphics for a vertical thing as
>> well.
>> Will ping Shaumn again and ask about how things are going for him.
>>
>>
>> * Add a "Donate" button to the footer of gnome.org (For example, Gimp at
>> http://www.gimp.org/ has one right in their right hand navigation)
>>
>>  I was thinking of doing it as a header between "What is GNOME?" and "Get
>> GNOME t-shirts"
>> Any ideas for the text?
>> - Andreas
>>
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Re: Friends of GNOME June numbers

[Jaap A. Haitsma]

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 21:13, Claus Schwarm wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 04:20 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote:
>> The file is good now.
>>
>> The latest Friends of GNOME numbers are on the wiki,
>>
>> http://live.gnome.org/action/AttachFile/GnomeMarketing/Tasks/FriendsOfGNOME?action=AttachFile
>>
>> As you can see, while we had a good April and a terrific May, June
>> numbers are way down. It underscores why subscriptions are so
>> important - that's the only number that held steady.
>>
>> I think we could use a Friends of GNOME campaign to encourage people
>> to sign up and to get their friends to sign up ...
>>
>
> Well, there are a number of factors. You may like to add some numbers
> from the statistics page of www.gnome.org, available here:
>
> http://www.gnome.org/stats/
>
> I just did and there's several points that might be helpful. First, I
> tried to get a measure of "conversions" of the wgo/friends page, that
> is: I related the number of donors to the number of visitors of the
> wgo/friends page. Here's the result:
>
> Jan 2009    0.92
> Feb 2009    0.61
> Mar 2009    0.70
> Apr 2009    1.42
> May 2009    2.23
> Jun 2009    1.61
>
> Compared to the previous month, the June numbers are not as good, but
> it's still better then Apr 2009!
>
> Unfortunately, the result is bad, overall.
>
> The visitor numbers are taken from a field in the monthly stats called
> "Top 10 of X Total Entry Pages". In other words, that's the number of
> visitors who directly surfed to wgo/friends/ -- probably from the linked
> images, maybe from urls in post on planet.gnome.org, maybe from other
> sources. It probably does not include people who came to /friends/ from
> within wgo!
>
> Thus, it's very likely that the total number of visitors is higher than
> the numbers I could use. The conversion rate is thus lower in reality.
>
> And it's also likely that our first friends-of-gnome campaign just
> reached those people who are very involved in gnome. Of course, their
> number is rather small, so it was to be expected that we could only a
> "spike".
>
> So, the first "result" is this: There are two reasons for the drop in
> June. (1) The average amount of donations dropped. (2) The text on the
> friends page does not "sell". We need to write a better one.
>
>
> Second, let's have a look at what I call "leads": This is the number of
> visitors for wgo/friends/ in relation to the number of visitors of all
> pages under www.gnome.org:
>
> Jan 2009    1.27
> Feb 2009    0.77
> Mar 2009    0.83
> Apr 2009    0.83
> May 2009    1.20
> Jun 2009    0.82
>
> Overall, we don't even get 1 percent of all visitors of the wgo pages to
> look at the wgo/friends page. Maybe, we could improve this one, too?
>
> The reason is not just that there's no visible link on the wgo front
> page to wgo/friends! For if we look at what people really are looking
> for on wgo, it's the project pages! Here are some examples from June:
>
> 259,921 /
>  72,288 /evolution/
>  49,232 /dia/
>  42,528 /NetworkManager/
>  36,877 /totem/
>  36,045 /rhythmbox/
>  35,207 /anjuta/
>  31,205 /tomboy/
>  25,929 /gnumeric/
>  24,462 /epiphany/
>
> Btw, I don't know what's wrong here, but except for gnumeric, they all
> 404'ed! If that's not just due to some problem with Webalizer, there's
> lots of traffic we ignore. Why are there no proper 301 redirects for
> these pages?
>
> So the other "result" is this: We need to plug friends-of-gnome
> images/links on all the project homepages, if we want more leads for the
> wgo/friends/ page, not just the wgo front page. And we need to make
> sure, these urls are redirected.
>
> On a general side note, Webalizer is not really sufficient to track
> stuff like this.
>
Nice analysis but I agree with Clause that we need a better tool. Some
weeks ago there was discussion about installing piwik
http://piwik.org/
The sysadmin team had some security concerns

Stormy do you know what the status is now?

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Re: First version of GNOME amazon store online

[Stormy Peters]

Can we call it "GNOME laptops"? Are you ready for me to push this via
twitter or do you want me to hold off?

Stormy

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Jaap A. Haitsma  wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 13:04, Stormy Peters wrote:
> > Very cool, Jaap. I like it. (And it looks much less cluttered than the
> > regular Amazon store!)
> >
> > Another thought for a category would be computers with GNOME preinstalled
> > like the Asus Eee PC, the HP mini, IBM thinkpad, ... (I got these from an
> > Amazon search for Linux laptop.)
> >
> Done for the .com store
>
> Jaap
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Re: First version of GNOME amazon store online

[Jaap A. Haitsma]

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 13:04, Stormy Peters wrote:
> Very cool, Jaap. I like it. (And it looks much less cluttered than the
> regular Amazon store!)
>
> Another thought for a category would be computers with GNOME preinstalled
> like the Asus Eee PC, the HP mini, IBM thinkpad, ... (I got these from an
> Amazon search for Linux laptop.)
>
Done for the .com store

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Re: Friends of GNOME subscription enhancements

[Andreas Nilsson]

Done!
- Andreas

On 07/21/2009 03:51 PM, Paul Cutler wrote:
Not sure if this paragraph header fits, but here's a first draft, 
using similar copy from the Friends page:


Become a Friend of GNOME

Help support the GNOME Foundation's goal to provide a free desktop for 
all users - become a Friend of GNOME. Your donation will ensure that 
GNOME continues to be a free and open source desktop.  Learn more and 
become a Friend of GNOME today!  (With links to www.gnome.org/friends 
 in the last sentence)


On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Andreas Nilsson > wrote:


On 07/21/2009 03:13 PM, Paul Cutler wrote:

June data is out, and subscriptions went way down:
http://blogs.gnome.org/foundation/2009/07/21/friends-of-gnome-update-3/

I thought it was interesting that subscriptions was the same
(100) for May and June.

In addition to some of the updates to the program Stormy mentions
below that Jaap volunteered to help with, there are a few more
things that have been discussed that I was hoping to follow up on:

* Thermometer - shows donation data as it grows (Shaun & Andreas,
I believe you were working on this?  Any updates?)

Still in progress. I still need to do graphics for a vertical
thing as well.
Will ping Shaumn again and ask about how things are going for him.



* Add a "Donate" button to the footer of gnome.org
 (For example, Gimp at http://www.gimp.org/ has
one right in their right hand navigation)

I was thinking of doing it as a header between "What is GNOME?"
and "Get GNOME t-shirts"
Any ideas for the text?
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Re: Friends of GNOME June numbers

[Claus Schwarm]

On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 04:20 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote:
> The file is good now.
> 
> The latest Friends of GNOME numbers are on the wiki,
> 
> http://live.gnome.org/action/AttachFile/GnomeMarketing/Tasks/FriendsOfGNOME?action=AttachFile
> 
> As you can see, while we had a good April and a terrific May, June
> numbers are way down. It underscores why subscriptions are so
> important - that's the only number that held steady.
> 
> I think we could use a Friends of GNOME campaign to encourage people
> to sign up and to get their friends to sign up ...
> 

Well, there are a number of factors. You may like to add some numbers
from the statistics page of www.gnome.org, available here:

http://www.gnome.org/stats/

I just did and there's several points that might be helpful. First, I
tried to get a measure of "conversions" of the wgo/friends page, that
is: I related the number of donors to the number of visitors of the
wgo/friends page. Here's the result:

Jan 20090.92
Feb 20090.61
Mar 20090.70
Apr 20091.42
May 20092.23
Jun 20091.61

Compared to the previous month, the June numbers are not as good, but
it's still better then Apr 2009!

Unfortunately, the result is bad, overall.

The visitor numbers are taken from a field in the monthly stats called
"Top 10 of X Total Entry Pages". In other words, that's the number of
visitors who directly surfed to wgo/friends/ -- probably from the linked
images, maybe from urls in post on planet.gnome.org, maybe from other
sources. It probably does not include people who came to /friends/ from
within wgo!

Thus, it's very likely that the total number of visitors is higher than
the numbers I could use. The conversion rate is thus lower in reality.

And it's also likely that our first friends-of-gnome campaign just
reached those people who are very involved in gnome. Of course, their
number is rather small, so it was to be expected that we could only a
"spike".

So, the first "result" is this: There are two reasons for the drop in
June. (1) The average amount of donations dropped. (2) The text on the
friends page does not "sell". We need to write a better one.


Second, let's have a look at what I call "leads": This is the number of
visitors for wgo/friends/ in relation to the number of visitors of all
pages under www.gnome.org:

Jan 20091.27
Feb 20090.77
Mar 20090.83
Apr 20090.83
May 20091.20
Jun 20090.82

Overall, we don't even get 1 percent of all visitors of the wgo pages to
look at the wgo/friends page. Maybe, we could improve this one, too?

The reason is not just that there's no visible link on the wgo front
page to wgo/friends! For if we look at what people really are looking
for on wgo, it's the project pages! Here are some examples from June:

259,921 /
 72,288 /evolution/
 49,232 /dia/
 42,528 /NetworkManager/
 36,877 /totem/
 36,045 /rhythmbox/
 35,207 /anjuta/
 31,205 /tomboy/
 25,929 /gnumeric/
 24,462 /epiphany/

Btw, I don't know what's wrong here, but except for gnumeric, they all
404'ed! If that's not just due to some problem with Webalizer, there's
lots of traffic we ignore. Why are there no proper 301 redirects for
these pages?

So the other "result" is this: We need to plug friends-of-gnome
images/links on all the project homepages, if we want more leads for the
wgo/friends/ page, not just the wgo front page. And we need to make
sure, these urls are redirected.

On a general side note, Webalizer is not really sufficient to track
stuff like this.


Best regards,
Claus

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Re: Friends of GNOME subscription enhancements

[Paul Cutler]

Not sure if this paragraph header fits, but here's a first draft, using
similar copy from the Friends page:

Become a Friend of GNOME

Help support the GNOME Foundation's goal to provide a free desktop for all
users - become a Friend of GNOME. Your donation will ensure that GNOME
continues to be a free and open source desktop.  Learn more and become a
Friend of GNOME today!  (With links to www.gnome.org/friends in the last
sentence)

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Andreas Nilsson wrote:

>  On 07/21/2009 03:13 PM, Paul Cutler wrote:
>
> June data is out, and subscriptions went way down:
> http://blogs.gnome.org/foundation/2009/07/21/friends-of-gnome-update-3/
>
> I thought it was interesting that subscriptions was the same (100) for May
> and June.
>
> In addition to some of the updates to the program Stormy mentions below
> that Jaap volunteered to help with, there are a few more things that have
> been discussed that I was hoping to follow up on:
>
> * Thermometer - shows donation data as it grows (Shaun & Andreas, I believe
> you were working on this?  Any updates?)
>
> Still in progress. I still need to do graphics for a vertical thing as
> well.
> Will ping Shaumn again and ask about how things are going for him.
>
>
> * Add a "Donate" button to the footer of gnome.org (For example, Gimp at
> http://www.gimp.org/ has one right in their right hand navigation)
>
> I was thinking of doing it as a header between "What is GNOME?" and "Get
> GNOME t-shirts"
> Any ideas for the text?
> - Andreas
>
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Re: Friends of GNOME subscription enhancements

[Andreas Nilsson]

On 07/21/2009 03:13 PM, Paul Cutler wrote:
June data is out, and subscriptions went way down: 
http://blogs.gnome.org/foundation/2009/07/21/friends-of-gnome-update-3/


I thought it was interesting that subscriptions was the same (100) for 
May and June.


In addition to some of the updates to the program Stormy mentions 
below that Jaap volunteered to help with, there are a few more things 
that have been discussed that I was hoping to follow up on:


* Thermometer - shows donation data as it grows (Shaun & Andreas, I 
believe you were working on this?  Any updates?)

Still in progress. I still need to do graphics for a vertical thing as well.
Will ping Shaumn again and ask about how things are going for him.


* Add a "Donate" button to the footer of gnome.org  
(For example, Gimp at http://www.gimp.org/ has one right in their 
right hand navigation)
I was thinking of doing it as a header between "What is GNOME?" and "Get 
GNOME t-shirts"

Any ideas for the text?
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Re: Friends of GNOME subscription enhancements

[Stormy Peters]

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 7:13 AM, Paul Cutler  wrote:

> June data is out, and subscriptions went way down:
> http://blogs.gnome.org/foundation/2009/07/21/friends-of-gnome-update-3/
>
> I thought it was interesting that subscriptions was the same (100) for May
> and June.
>
> In addition to some of the updates to the program Stormy mentions below
> that Jaap volunteered to help with, there are a few more things that have
> been discussed that I was hoping to follow up on:
>
> * Thermometer - shows donation data as it grows (Shaun & Andreas, I believe
> you were working on this?  Any updates?)
>
> * Add a "Donate" button to the footer of gnome.org (For example, Gimp at
> http://www.gimp.org/ has one right in their right hand navigation)


Andreas and I talked about this at the Desktop Summit and I think he was
going to do it ...

>
>
> * We're approaching our $20k goal for Sysadmin - what's our next goal, and
> how much?  (I like goals, I think it helps people to focus on them and want
> to attain them)


Actually, we haven't. That's why we could use the thermometer. We've reached
our original goal for the year of $20K. The sys admin goal was an additional
goal on top of that.

>
>
> If anyone wants to grab a task, the help is appreciated!


If you want to help and aren't sure how, just propose it here!

Stormy

>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Paul
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 1:28 AM, Jaap A. Haitsma  wrote:
>
>> I can have a go at it.
>>
>> BTW how high were the donations in June? Did it go up?
>>
>> Jaap
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 18:46, Stormy Peters wrote:
>> > Who would like to be the Friends of GNOME maintainer?
>> >
>> > We've gotten a lot of feedback, especially on the subscription process.
>> >
>> > People would like to be able to:
>> > - choose their monthly amount
>> > - pick an annual subscription or a monthly subscription
>> > - pick dollars or euros
>> >
>> > And we've gotten feedback like:
>> > - the default amount should be at least $25
>> > - make it easy to make a one time payment in your preferred amount
>> >
>> > And we need it to be easy to just pick the default and go without lots
>> of
>> > choices overwhelming people. I'm not a usability expert, but obviously
>> we
>> > can't just keep listing more and more options, we need to branch out
>> into
>> > drop down lists, etc.
>> >
>> > Another complication is that Paypal doesn't allow variable amounts, so
>> we
>> > will have to create a Paypal subscription for every option we offer.
>> Rosanna
>> > and I can help with that part.
>> >
>> > Would somebody like to take on the challenge?
>> >
>> > Stormy
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Re: Friends of GNOME subscription enhancements

[Paul Cutler]

June data is out, and subscriptions went way down:
http://blogs.gnome.org/foundation/2009/07/21/friends-of-gnome-update-3/

I thought it was interesting that subscriptions was the same (100) for May
and June.

In addition to some of the updates to the program Stormy mentions below that
Jaap volunteered to help with, there are a few more things that have been
discussed that I was hoping to follow up on:

* Thermometer - shows donation data as it grows (Shaun & Andreas, I believe
you were working on this?  Any updates?)

* Add a "Donate" button to the footer of gnome.org (For example, Gimp at
http://www.gimp.org/ has one right in their right hand navigation)

* We're approaching our $20k goal for Sysadmin - what's our next goal, and
how much?  (I like goals, I think it helps people to focus on them and want
to attain them)

If anyone wants to grab a task, the help is appreciated!

Thanks.

Paul

On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 1:28 AM, Jaap A. Haitsma  wrote:

> I can have a go at it.
>
> BTW how high were the donations in June? Did it go up?
>
> Jaap
>
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 18:46, Stormy Peters wrote:
> > Who would like to be the Friends of GNOME maintainer?
> >
> > We've gotten a lot of feedback, especially on the subscription process.
> >
> > People would like to be able to:
> > - choose their monthly amount
> > - pick an annual subscription or a monthly subscription
> > - pick dollars or euros
> >
> > And we've gotten feedback like:
> > - the default amount should be at least $25
> > - make it easy to make a one time payment in your preferred amount
> >
> > And we need it to be easy to just pick the default and go without lots of
> > choices overwhelming people. I'm not a usability expert, but obviously we
> > can't just keep listing more and more options, we need to branch out into
> > drop down lists, etc.
> >
> > Another complication is that Paypal doesn't allow variable amounts, so we
> > will have to create a Paypal subscription for every option we offer.
> Rosanna
> > and I can help with that part.
> >
> > Would somebody like to take on the challenge?
> >
> > Stormy
> >
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> >
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Re: First version of GNOME amazon store online

[Stormy Peters]

Very cool, Jaap. I like it. (And it looks much less cluttered than the
regular Amazon store!)

Another thought for a category would be computers with GNOME preinstalled
like the Asus Eee PC, the HP mini, IBM thinkpad, ... (I got these from an
Amazon search for Linux laptop.)

Stormy

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Jaap A. Haitsma  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've got a first version of the amazon store online. I'd like to have
> some feedback and consensus where to go from here.
>
> The shop is online at
> http://www.gnome.org/friends/amazon/
>
> If you are using Firefox you see a highlight on the search box.
> Clicking on it enables you to add the "Amazon.com GNOME" search
> engine. It's just like the normal search engine as shipped with
> Firefox only the affiliate is set such that the GNOME foundation gets
> a percentage of the subsequent sale.
>
> Basically the idea is to stimulate GNOME lovers to buy their stuff at
> the GNOME amazon store and/or use the "Amazon.com GNOME" search
> plugin. Does anybody know if the fees received for the plugin are the
> same as for a shop. I can't find anything about it on the amazon site.
> Seems to be a fixed percentage per product.
>
> I've also added the other shop outside the US
> http://www.gnome.org/friends/amazon/ca
> http://www.gnome.org/friends/amazon/de
> http://www.gnome.org/friends/amazon/fr
> http://www.gnome.org/friends/amazon/jp
> http://www.gnome.org/friends/amazon/uk
>
> These pages don't contain a  shop yet (I prefer to have some feedback
> first), but they contain the search engine already.
>
> A note. I can't do much about how the shop looks. I'm just embedding
> http://astore.amazon.com/gnomestore-20 in a iframe. Amazon just allows
> me to play with some colors, fonts and which categories I want to add
>
> Things I'm still planning on doing
> 1) Switching between the shops by putting links to the other shops on
> each of the shop pages
> 2) Add a link to the firefox extension I talked about earlier. I
> already submitted it to addons.mozilla.org
> 3) Add a link on which you can click to install the searchplugin
>
> Let me know your thoughts.
>
> Thanks
>
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Re: Friends of GNOME June numbers

[Stormy Peters]

The file is good now.

The latest Friends of GNOME numbers are on the wiki,

http://live.gnome.org/action/AttachFile/GnomeMarketing/Tasks/FriendsOfGNOME?action=AttachFile

As you can see, while we had a good April and a terrific May, June numbers
are way down. It underscores why subscriptions are so important - that's the
only number that held steady.

I think we could use a Friends of GNOME campaign to encourage people to sign
up and to get their friends to sign up ...

Stormy

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Stormy Peters  wrote:

> Ignore this for now.
>
> Numbers are definitely down a lot for June but the spreadsheet is not
> accurate.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Stormy
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Stormy Peters  wrote:
>
>> The latest Friends of GNOME numbers are on the wiki,
>>
>>
>> http://live.gnome.org/action/AttachFile/GnomeMarketing/Tasks/FriendsOfGNOME?action=AttachFile
>>
>> As you can see, while we had a good April and a terrific May, June numbers
>> are way down. It underscores why subscriptions are so important - that's the
>> only number that heald steady.
>>
>> I think we could use a Friends of GNOME campaign to encourage people to
>> sign up and to get their friends to sign up ...
>>
>> Stormy
>>
>
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