Re: propose new time for marketing meeting
Thanks sri - this time slot would work better for me, for sure - or 1900 UTC any other weekday as well. I do want to throw in my 5 cents Canadian after all (since we don't have pennies anymore, we're up from 2 cents!) Brett On Jul 11, 2013 10:13 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna sriram.ramkris...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to propose another time for marketing meeting. I'm hoping to get more people like Brett to participate. Certainly we should look at a different day so that those of us who are on the board don't have two meetings on the same day. I was thinking we could do Wednesdays at 19:00 UTC? What do people think of that? sri -- Sriram Ramkrishna (sriram.ramkrishna_@@_...@.gmail.com (remove _@@_) -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: propose new time for marketing meeting
That would work for me too. Brett On Jul 11, 2013 11:28 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: I'm flexible.. we can go for 18:00 UTC. That would make it about 11am my time. On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Andreas Nilsson li...@andreasn.sewrote: On 07/11/2013 10:14 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: I'd like to propose another time for marketing meeting. I'm hoping to get more people like Brett to participate. Certainly we should look at a different day so that those of us who are on the board don't have two meetings on the same day. I was thinking we could do Wednesdays at 19:00 UTC? What do people think of that? Thanks for bringing this up. Specifically that time clashes for me on Wednesdays. :) An hour earlier do not. - Andreas -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/**mailman/listinfo/marketing-**listhttps://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: markeiting meeting today
I am at a fairly remote location this week, so it could be even spottier than usual for me - no worries about postponing! Brety On Jul 2, 2013 1:47 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: I have not heard much feedback. I know a couple of people cannot make it. Would it work best if I moved it next week to say Wednesday? It's also holidays in the U.S. Let me know. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Marketing meeting Tuesday June 10th 20:00 UTC
Hello all... I had hoped to get out today, having missed the last few - sadly, a fire water system pressure test has vetoed my plans :-) Maybe next time! Brett On Jun 11, 2013 10:35 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: here's the info to dial in, same as usual: 718-247-9666, PIN 9090 -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Go-ahead for a community survey
I think that it looks great, and I agree with Fabiana and Karen that it would be good to expand it beyond just GNOME 3.8 (to perhaps see just what versions people are using). Brett On May 23, 2013 1:49 PM, Fabiana Simões fabianapsim...@gmail.com wrote: That looks great! This kind of information is much needed, thank you. Me too! I do have one question - did you intentionally limit the survey to 3.8? Or did you want to make the survey about 3.x? I think it's unlikely right now that anyone running 3.8 has it because someone else installed it for them or because it's the default on their distro. It'll take some time for that :) One idea is to focus the survey on the 3.x family, instead of in a single release. With this, we would also be able to explore the perceived improvement of GNOME 3 for those users that have been using it since 3.0 (or later). For example, we could ask 1) what release they are currently using and how do they rate it; and 2) how do they rate the improvement between this release and the first one they used (would be interesting to know which release was that). - Fabiana On 23 May 2013 12:29, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Thu, May 23, 2013 10:13 am, Emily Gonyer wrote: Fantastic Michael! Thanks - I can't wait to see the results! Me too! I do have one question - did you intentionally limit the survey to 3.8? Or did you want to make the survey about 3.x? I think it's unlikely right now that anyone running 3.8 has it because someone else installed it for them or because it's the default on their distro. It'll take some time for that :) karen On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 7:35 AM, Michael Heyns mike.bean.he...@gmail.comwrote: Dear Gnome Team, I trust this is an appropriate method of communication. I have been a Gnome user since 2004 and I haven't contributed much besides the odd bug report but I am very enthusiastic about the platform and have really enjoyed Gnome 3.x so far. In an effort to understand more about my fellow users, I designed a questionnaire with no hidden agenda besides pure curiosity and the hope that information could be of some use to somebody. I didn't want to start promoting it all over the internet before consulting with you as I don't want to step on any toes. Please have a look at it and tell me what you think. Maybe I can improve on it. Unofficial Gnome 3.8 User Survey - 2013: http://goo.gl/pC48p I work with information systems and have a fair understanding of statistics so I plan on compiling summaries and reports once the feedback is strong enough. I look forward to hearing from you and as always I am very grateful for everything you do for me and my computers :) (too cheesy?) All the best, -- *Michael Heyns* gplus.to/beanaroo -- -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Fwd: Good day - re: new direction for Cinnarch
Hey, that's a good idea I think. I'll get in touch with Alexandre again and see if there is any interest. Brett On Apr 14, 2013 8:01 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: I have an idea that I think would be great for Cinnarch. I think having a distro involved in gnome initial setup other than Fedora would be excellent. They can provide alternative approaches or help implement the design in Cinnarch. Basically go all in as a complete GNOME distro. https://live.gnome.org/GnomeOS/Design/Whiteboards/InitialSetup For more details. I would like to see them get involved. Perhaps that is something to focus on? sri On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 2:22 AM, Brett Legree brett.leg...@gmail.comwrote: Hashem, I spoke directly with Alexandre (the Cinnarch project lead) after reading a post in the news section of the project web page - they've already made GNOME the default. Of course, nothing stops one from installing something else, it is still Arch underneath. Brett On Apr 12, 2013 11:58 PM, Hashem Nasarat hnasa...@gmail.com wrote: This site admin on their forum seemed against association with a particular desktop environment. Has anyone actually reached out to contact those involved? http://forum.cinnarch.com/viewtopic.php?f=13t=905#p2581 On 04/12/2013 07:32 AM, Brett Legree wrote: Good point Juanjo - we don't want to confuse people like that, and as Olav pointed out GNOME OS has other goals. I'll communicate with Alexandre and let him know; I am sure they'll come up with a new and unique name! Thanks for the feedback - Brett On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Juanjo Marin juanj.ma...@juntadeandalucia.es wrote: Hi ! I think GNOME Arch (Linux) can be more appropiated, because it explain quite well what it delivers :-) GNOME OS will be more confusing from my point of view, because people can think this particular distro is under the control of the GNOME project or something like, without mentioning that GNOME OS is the codename of the GNOME initiative to improve GNOME in serveral areas (developers, testing, etc). My two cents, -- Juanjo Marin PS: And GNOME Arch OS is also confusing because people can think that is a distro for archos.com devices :-) On 12/04/13 13:07, Brett Legree wrote: Good day all, I had a brief exchange with Alexandre of Cinnarch today - if you did not see my little note on IRC, they are moving to GNOME http://www.cinnarch.com/important-notice-the-future-of-cinnarch/ and seeking a new name. I thought since a few GNOME users are using Arch that it might be interesting if this became GNOME OS. Obviously I do not speak for GNOME (as I said in my email to Alexandre) but I thought I would throw the idea out there and see what people think. So, any thoughts? Yes, no, crazy... -Brett -- Forwarded message -- From: Alexandre Filgueira alexfilgue...@cinnarch.com Date: Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 6:35 AM Subject: Re: Good day - re: new direction for Cinnarch To: Brett Legree brett.leg...@gmail.com Hi Brett Well, becoming the GNOME OS would be fun, and I think, like you said, that using Arch as basis, it's the best option to GNOME to show the vanilla packages and the most up to date software. I'm ok with discussing this with gnome, if the answer is no we can always keep our usual work. I didn't contact the project and I don't know who to talk, so if you could help me present the idea would be great. Thanks for contacting me Cheers 2013/4/12 Brett Legree brett.leg...@gmail.com Hello, I am contacting you regarding the post on your new direction http://www.cinnarch.com/important-notice-the-future-of-cinnarch/ I am part of the GNOME Marketing Team, and thought I would put in my own thoughts. Quite a few GNOME users I know are using Arch due to the nature of the distro (rolling release, speed, pure packages, rapid updates to new software versions) and we talk from time to time about the concept of GNOME OS. Perhaps Cinnarch could become the GNOME OS. Now, I don't speak for GNOME, but I wonder if you contacted the project formally (I could find out who to ask) and made the suggestion whether it would be considered. Perhaps this would give you massive support and publicity if it came to pass. Thanks, let me know what you think, and if you need a hand I am willing to help. Brett Legree -- Juan José Marín Martínez Tlf: 956009437 (Corp. 409437) Móvil: 671596200 (Corp. 696200) Fax: 956009445 (Corp. 409445) Centro de Proceso de Datos. Delegación Territorial de Educación, Cultura y Deporte en Cádiz Consejería de Cultura y Deporte. Junta de Andalucía Antes de imprimir este correo electrónico piense bien si es necesario hacerlo: El medioambiente es cosa de todos. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list
Re: Fwd: Good day - re: new direction for Cinnarch
Hashem, I spoke directly with Alexandre (the Cinnarch project lead) after reading a post in the news section of the project web page - they've already made GNOME the default. Of course, nothing stops one from installing something else, it is still Arch underneath. Brett On Apr 12, 2013 11:58 PM, Hashem Nasarat hnasa...@gmail.com wrote: This site admin on their forum seemed against association with a particular desktop environment. Has anyone actually reached out to contact those involved? http://forum.cinnarch.com/viewtopic.php?f=13t=905#p2581 On 04/12/2013 07:32 AM, Brett Legree wrote: Good point Juanjo - we don't want to confuse people like that, and as Olav pointed out GNOME OS has other goals. I'll communicate with Alexandre and let him know; I am sure they'll come up with a new and unique name! Thanks for the feedback - Brett On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Juanjo Marin juanj.ma...@juntadeandalucia.es wrote: Hi ! I think GNOME Arch (Linux) can be more appropiated, because it explain quite well what it delivers :-) GNOME OS will be more confusing from my point of view, because people can think this particular distro is under the control of the GNOME project or something like, without mentioning that GNOME OS is the codename of the GNOME initiative to improve GNOME in serveral areas (developers, testing, etc). My two cents, -- Juanjo Marin PS: And GNOME Arch OS is also confusing because people can think that is a distro for archos.com devices :-) On 12/04/13 13:07, Brett Legree wrote: Good day all, I had a brief exchange with Alexandre of Cinnarch today - if you did not see my little note on IRC, they are moving to GNOME http://www.cinnarch.com/important-notice-the-future-of-cinnarch/ and seeking a new name. I thought since a few GNOME users are using Arch that it might be interesting if this became GNOME OS. Obviously I do not speak for GNOME (as I said in my email to Alexandre) but I thought I would throw the idea out there and see what people think. So, any thoughts? Yes, no, crazy... -Brett -- Forwarded message -- From: Alexandre Filgueira alexfilgue...@cinnarch.com Date: Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 6:35 AM Subject: Re: Good day - re: new direction for Cinnarch To: Brett Legree brett.leg...@gmail.com Hi Brett Well, becoming the GNOME OS would be fun, and I think, like you said, that using Arch as basis, it's the best option to GNOME to show the vanilla packages and the most up to date software. I'm ok with discussing this with gnome, if the answer is no we can always keep our usual work. I didn't contact the project and I don't know who to talk, so if you could help me present the idea would be great. Thanks for contacting me Cheers 2013/4/12 Brett Legree brett.leg...@gmail.com Hello, I am contacting you regarding the post on your new direction http://www.cinnarch.com/important-notice-the-future-of-cinnarch/ I am part of the GNOME Marketing Team, and thought I would put in my own thoughts. Quite a few GNOME users I know are using Arch due to the nature of the distro (rolling release, speed, pure packages, rapid updates to new software versions) and we talk from time to time about the concept of GNOME OS. Perhaps Cinnarch could become the GNOME OS. Now, I don't speak for GNOME, but I wonder if you contacted the project formally (I could find out who to ask) and made the suggestion whether it would be considered. Perhaps this would give you massive support and publicity if it came to pass. Thanks, let me know what you think, and if you need a hand I am willing to help. Brett Legree -- Juan José Marín Martínez Tlf: 956009437 (Corp. 409437) Móvil: 671596200 (Corp. 696200) Fax: 956009445 (Corp. 409445) Centro de Proceso de Datos. Delegación Territorial de Educación, Cultura y Deporte en Cádiz Consejería de Cultura y Deporte. Junta de Andalucía Antes de imprimir este correo electrónico piense bien si es necesario hacerlo: El medioambiente es cosa de todos. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Fwd: Good day - re: new direction for Cinnarch
Good day all, I had a brief exchange with Alexandre of Cinnarch today - if you did not see my little note on IRC, they are moving to GNOME http://www.cinnarch.com/important-notice-the-future-of-cinnarch/ and seeking a new name. I thought since a few GNOME users are using Arch that it might be interesting if this became GNOME OS. Obviously I do not speak for GNOME (as I said in my email to Alexandre) but I thought I would throw the idea out there and see what people think. So, any thoughts? Yes, no, crazy... -Brett -- Forwarded message -- From: Alexandre Filgueira alexfilgue...@cinnarch.com Date: Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 6:35 AM Subject: Re: Good day - re: new direction for Cinnarch To: Brett Legree brett.leg...@gmail.com Hi Brett Well, becoming the GNOME OS would be fun, and I think, like you said, that using Arch as basis, it's the best option to GNOME to show the vanilla packages and the most up to date software. I'm ok with discussing this with gnome, if the answer is no we can always keep our usual work. I didn't contact the project and I don't know who to talk, so if you could help me present the idea would be great. Thanks for contacting me Cheers 2013/4/12 Brett Legree brett.leg...@gmail.com Hello, I am contacting you regarding the post on your new direction http://www.cinnarch.com/important-notice-the-future-of-cinnarch/ I am part of the GNOME Marketing Team, and thought I would put in my own thoughts. Quite a few GNOME users I know are using Arch due to the nature of the distro (rolling release, speed, pure packages, rapid updates to new software versions) and we talk from time to time about the concept of GNOME OS. Perhaps Cinnarch could become the GNOME OS. Now, I don't speak for GNOME, but I wonder if you contacted the project formally (I could find out who to ask) and made the suggestion whether it would be considered. Perhaps this would give you massive support and publicity if it came to pass. Thanks, let me know what you think, and if you need a hand I am willing to help. Brett Legree -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Fwd: Good day - re: new direction for Cinnarch
Ah yes, thanks Olav for clarifying. Perhaps I am overly enthusiastic :) I just figured I would put the idea up. In any case, does anyone have any interest in a sort of nice to point to rolling release distribution that uses GNOME as default? This could be one possibility, if it works out. If not, no worries and Alexandre is obviously going to continue regardless. Thanks - Brett On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 07:07:41AM -0400, Brett Legree wrote: I thought since a few GNOME users are using Arch that it might be interesting if this became GNOME OS. GNOME OS is not about creating or replacing distributions. It is more like: - providing an SDK - being able to build GNOME on any distribution (ostree) - being able to distribute/bundle your application and have it work across distributions (requiring kernel dbus, etc) -- Regards, Olav -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Fwd: Good day - re: new direction for Cinnarch
Good point Juanjo - we don't want to confuse people like that, and as Olav pointed out GNOME OS has other goals. I'll communicate with Alexandre and let him know; I am sure they'll come up with a new and unique name! Thanks for the feedback - Brett On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Juanjo Marin juanj.ma...@juntadeandalucia.es wrote: Hi ! I think GNOME Arch (Linux) can be more appropiated, because it explain quite well what it delivers :-) GNOME OS will be more confusing from my point of view, because people can think this particular distro is under the control of the GNOME project or something like, without mentioning that GNOME OS is the codename of the GNOME initiative to improve GNOME in serveral areas (developers, testing, etc). My two cents, -- Juanjo Marin PS: And GNOME Arch OS is also confusing because people can think that is a distro for archos.com devices :-) On 12/04/13 13:07, Brett Legree wrote: Good day all, I had a brief exchange with Alexandre of Cinnarch today - if you did not see my little note on IRC, they are moving to GNOME http://www.cinnarch.com/important-notice-the-future-of-cinnarch/ and seeking a new name. I thought since a few GNOME users are using Arch that it might be interesting if this became GNOME OS. Obviously I do not speak for GNOME (as I said in my email to Alexandre) but I thought I would throw the idea out there and see what people think. So, any thoughts? Yes, no, crazy... -Brett -- Forwarded message -- From: Alexandre Filgueira alexfilgue...@cinnarch.com Date: Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 6:35 AM Subject: Re: Good day - re: new direction for Cinnarch To: Brett Legree brett.leg...@gmail.com Hi Brett Well, becoming the GNOME OS would be fun, and I think, like you said, that using Arch as basis, it's the best option to GNOME to show the vanilla packages and the most up to date software. I'm ok with discussing this with gnome, if the answer is no we can always keep our usual work. I didn't contact the project and I don't know who to talk, so if you could help me present the idea would be great. Thanks for contacting me Cheers 2013/4/12 Brett Legree brett.leg...@gmail.com Hello, I am contacting you regarding the post on your new direction http://www.cinnarch.com/important-notice-the-future-of-cinnarch/ I am part of the GNOME Marketing Team, and thought I would put in my own thoughts. Quite a few GNOME users I know are using Arch due to the nature of the distro (rolling release, speed, pure packages, rapid updates to new software versions) and we talk from time to time about the concept of GNOME OS. Perhaps Cinnarch could become the GNOME OS. Now, I don't speak for GNOME, but I wonder if you contacted the project formally (I could find out who to ask) and made the suggestion whether it would be considered. Perhaps this would give you massive support and publicity if it came to pass. Thanks, let me know what you think, and if you need a hand I am willing to help. Brett Legree -- Juan José Marín Martínez Tlf: 956009437 (Corp. 409437) Móvil: 671596200 (Corp. 696200) Fax: 956009445 (Corp. 409445) Centro de Proceso de Datos. Delegación Territorial de Educación, Cultura y Deporte en Cádiz Consejería de Cultura y Deporte. Junta de Andalucía Antes de imprimir este correo electrónico piense bien si es necesario hacerlo: El medioambiente es cosa de todos. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Fwd: Good day - re: new direction for Cinnarch
The Getting GNOME link doesn't include a nice to point to rolling release distribution that uses GNOME as default, though. But anyway... no matter, all feedback is valuable, and I have emailed Alexandre to say that no one seemed to think it was appropriate as the name GNOME OS already applies to something completely different. On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 09:11:01AM -0400, Jeremy Bicha wrote: On 12 April 2013 07:21, Brett Legree brett.leg...@gmail.com wrote: In any case, does anyone have any interest in a sort of nice to point to rolling release distribution that uses GNOME as default? Isn't that what https://www.gnome.org/getting-gnome/ is for? Indeed. Not every small distribution is on there though. Not totally sure of the selection criteria to be on that list. -- Regards, Olav -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Fwd: Good day - re: new direction for Cinnarch
I suppose then, if I put on my Hello, I am a new user potentially interested in GNOME hat, I would arrive at the Getting GNOME page, and then maybe click around a bit, and figure out that there is no really easy way to get the latest and greatest GNOME 3.8 (that we're all so proud of) onto my computer. I know some of the reasons why that is, but I've been around Linux for a while. A new person might wonder why a project tells everyone about something great but then doesn't give an easy way to install it (remember, new user, maybe non-geek). That was really the reasoning behind my thinking of the easy to install rolling release with GNOME as default. On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Andreas Nilsson li...@andreasn.se wrote: On 2013-04-12 10:58, Olav Vitters wrote: On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 09:11:01AM -0400, Jeremy Bicha wrote: On 12 April 2013 07:21, Brett Legree brett.leg...@gmail.com wrote: In any case, does anyone have any interest in a sort of nice to point to rolling release distribution that uses GNOME as default? Isn't that what https://www.gnome.org/getting-**gnome/https://www.gnome.org/getting-gnome/is for? Indeed. Not every small distribution is on there though. Not totally sure of the selection criteria to be on that list. Make it easy to get GNOME in your computer, basically. The page can't be endless (as getting-gnome was in the past), so the selection of targets are quite small. - Andreas -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/**mailman/listinfo/marketing-**listhttps://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Fwd: Good day - re: new direction for Cinnarch
Good point Olav - let's see where they go with it, if it is something they want to consider, they can inquire via the appropriate channels to see how to go about being added etc. On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 10:57:00AM -0400, Brett Legree wrote: The Getting GNOME link doesn't include a nice to point to rolling release distribution that uses GNOME as default, though. But anyway... no matter, all feedback is valuable, and I have emailed Alexandre to say that no one seemed to think it was appropriate as the name GNOME OS already applies to something completely different. I just meant that I do not know the criteria to be added to the page. This distro might or might not be added. At least from my side I did will not say no (or yes :P). -- Regards, Olav -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Fwd: Good day - re: new direction for Cinnarch
Good question, Andreas - that would be a problem for the experience. I will inquire, test, and pass on what I find. -Brett On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Andreas Nilsson li...@andreasn.se wrote: On 2013-04-12 12:13, Brett Legree wrote: I suppose then, if I put on my Hello, I am a new user potentially interested in GNOME hat, I would arrive at the Getting GNOME page, and then maybe click around a bit, and figure out that there is no really easy way to get the latest and greatest GNOME 3.8 (that we're all so proud of) onto my computer. Yeah, that's definitely a bigger issue in itself. In Cinnarch, does all of GNOME land in the same day, or is it similar to other rolling systems where GDM lands one day and say, gnome-session another? That certainly affects the experience for our end users quite a bit and something we should consider as well. - Andreas -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/**mailman/listinfo/marketing-**listhttps://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: marketing hackfest?
I could be there virtually :) -Brett On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 10:24 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.mewrote: Let me see off the top of my head: * updated marketing materials for conferences - * talking points when discussing GNOME with others, formulating a FAQ * outreach discussion - we do this, but we need to really need to come up with an action plan * re-do the marketing wiki page * conference bling - what new stuff can we give out at conference * New T-shirt design? * implement GSOC volunteer capture on the website * pursue new ideas through brainstorming and interaction * press kit improvements * conference kit improvements * lingering action items that need to be completed. * reaching out to non-tech sectors * reaching out to kids * reaching out to parents * reaching out to LGBT * selling our javascript platform to web folks I'm really serious about getting images out, it's an important factor in getting volunteers.. we should probably discuss what other infrastructure improvements we could make. * beer / team building That should be about two days worth of stuff right there. I know that we have the capacity of to use an entire hour or more in our marketing meeting. Anything else, we can talk about? sri On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 6:53 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Wed, April 3, 2013 8:13 pm, Allan Day wrote: Hi Karen, Karen Sandler wrote: As per Tobi's email, we should consider again whether to organize a marketing hackfest! Shaun has suggested co-locating with the docs sprint in Cincinatti June 17-19. ... What do people think? Would it be workable this time and if so would having it in June make sense? I'm definitely interested in attending a marketing hackfest. That said, I am busy and my primary responsibility is design, so I'd want to be confident that the event would be an effective use of time. Do you (or anybody else) have any ideas for what we would work on? I think there are a lot of things we could work on, but one big thing we want to do is to better articulate why GNOME and free software generally is so important. Also, our marketing materials site is old and seriously out of date so on the more mundane side, combing through those materials, reorganizing them and figuring out if there's anything new that we need would probably be very useful. I'm sure others have ideas too. karen Best, Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: collab time - 20:00 UTC Tuesday April 2nd
As long as I'm not in a meeting and my 3G holds up, I will hang around IRC :) -Brett On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 1:35 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Reminder that we are working on Annual report and getting it in shape. So freel free to block an hour tomorrow and help work on it. Thanks! -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: marketing meeting Tuesday 20:00 UTC
I may be available via IRC, I'll do my best to join in - Brett On Mar 26, 2013 2:22 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Sorry, this is really last minute. I completely forgot to send out a reminder. This is our last marketing meeting before the release. So I think we should try to meet. If we can't meet by phone then let's at least do one over IRC. Thanks, sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re:press release
Wow, it is looking very good indeed - it was a pleasure to be part of the process this year, and as Flavia said, thanks to *all* for contributing. GNOME 3.8 is going to be one very solid release, and all should be proud. -Brett On Mar 26, 2013 5:20 AM, fla...@weisghizzi.it fla...@weisghizzi.it wrote: Awesome! Thanks to all contributors:) Flavia From: marketing-list marketing-list-boun...@gnome.org To: GNOME Marketing List marketing-list@gnome.org Cc: Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 23:21:12 -0700 Subject: press release We have updated the press release today. I think it is in it's final form. Thanks to Brett and Emily for doing further edits and making it read so good! http://piratepad.net/j4B5vOQBep http://piratepad.net/j4B5vOQBep Thanks, sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: revised the press release
I had a brief look just now, and so far it looks great - I'll sit down with a cup of coffee at my morning break and put on my nuclear inspector hat to see how it would look if I were rolling it out to a team of government workers. (Personal bias here - I think everyone where I work would LOVE it, since we've been using bone stock Windows XP since the dawn of time it seems - a bit 'stale' these days.) -Brett On Mar 22, 2013 1:40 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Here is the revised press release. I'd like more eyeballs on it if possible. Karen and I spent a little time on it tonight as we said we would. http://piratepad.net/j4B5vOQBep Thanks, sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: revised the press release
I'm late to the party... but anyway, I would add my voice to those suggesting a small bit of introduction as to 'what' GNOME actually is, for people just landing here out of the blue (which could happen). For instance, from the GNOME Wikipedia page and also paraphrasing from Apple's page 'Why You'll Love a Mac - It has a better operating system' (remember, Great artists steal heh!), imagine something like this (with suitable modifications): GNOME is a desktop environment and graphical user interface that runs on top of a computer operating system. Easy to use and incredibly powerful, GNOME delivers amazing performance, stunning graphics and enhanced privacy. GNOME comes with software that’s easy to learn and a pleasure to use. Obviously this could and should be rewritten to suit per the actual release (and to not sound like it was mostly lifted from Apple!) but maybe this is the sort of thing we could use. Also note that it doesn't just say Linux since people are working to bring it to *BSD (I do believe it is already working on OpenBSD). -Brett On Mar 22, 2013 11:49 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Thanks everyone for taking the time and interest in commenting! Very much appreciate the feedback. I will take a look at the first paragraph and see if we can add more detail on GNOME. Sri On Mar 22, 2013 2:24 AM, Brett Legree brett.leg...@gmail.com wrote: I had a brief look just now, and so far it looks great - I'll sit down with a cup of coffee at my morning break and put on my nuclear inspector hat to see how it would look if I were rolling it out to a team of government workers. (Personal bias here - I think everyone where I work would LOVE it, since we've been using bone stock Windows XP since the dawn of time it seems - a bit 'stale' these days.) -Brett On Mar 22, 2013 1:40 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Here is the revised press release. I'd like more eyeballs on it if possible. Karen and I spent a little time on it tonight as we said we would. http://piratepad.net/j4B5vOQBep Thanks, sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Annual report design
I agree with you Emily, I prefer the first cover too and the second interior - plus, the second interior design may be easier to read (black text on light background). Brett On Mar 19, 2013 2:49 PM, Emily Gonyer emilyyr...@gmail.com wrote: FWIW I love the 1st cover and the 2nd interior design - mostly due to concerns related to printing and using an excessive amount of ink with the interior of option 1 :) Emily On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Andreas Nilsson li...@andreasn.se wrote: Hi! With things progressing well with the content of the report (almost all articles are done and are currently in the proof reading phase), we can now move forward with the design. Daniel have made a good base design and now we just need the layouts for how the content will look in place. https://live.gnome.org/DanielGalleguillos/GNOME_Mockups Daniel: Are you up for taking the content in the wiki and apply it to your designs to see how it all will look in the end? It will need some space for photos, and we need to get a list of good photos to go with the articles. Anyone interested in taking that on? - Andreas -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Want to review a book about GNOME 3?
I would be willing to have a good look at it from the perspective of a government/technology worker. Brett On Mar 6, 2013 3:20 PM, Emily Gonyer emilyyr...@gmail.com wrote: I'd be happy to read review a copy :) Emily On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: Thanks, Flavia! I've already had a couple of responses to my email, so it's a good idea to ask about e-copies for this. I'll let you know... karen On Wed, March 6, 2013 2:54 pm, Flavia Weisghizzi wrote: Hi Karen! It should be very interesting for me have the opportunity to review this book (it's my work!!! :) ), so please, take me in consideration. I'll be very happy to have an e-book copy, if it's available e-book format, and let you have paper copies. Let me know :) Flavia Il 06/03/2013 20:19, Karen Sandler ha scritto: Hi everyone, Packt Publishing has recently put out a book on GNOME 3, which was written by Mohammad Anwari. It would be great to have a review of the book on gnome.org. As with all of their books about free software projects, Packt will give us a small percentage of the royalties as a donation, and slightly more if we promote it on our website (which would include publishing a review). Either way, they'll send us a couple of promotional copies to conduct the review and it would be great to have our view on it out there (positive or negative). If you're interested in reading the book and writing a review, let me know. thanks! karen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr.Seuss Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted. - Albert Einstein -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: GNOME 3.8 Release Notes
If you've not received any suggestions yet, what about combining two of the first three in your list to make a GNOME 3.8 Top 10 of sorts? Brett On Mar 4, 2013 5:57 AM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I'm in the process of writing the release notes and they're going pretty well. One thing we should discuss is the headline feature list: this is the list of features that we want to highlight in the notes and other marketing materials. So far my draft list looks like: * Windows View (improved thumbnails, easier window switching) * Application View (new section for frequently used and application folders) * Search (new search view can integrate any application, plus there's the new search settings) * Privacy sharing (new settings, connects well with our privacy campaign) * Clocks (new app) * Improved animation rendering (courtesy of Owen - http://blog.fishsoup.net/) * Classic mode * Initial setup * Details (highlighting the work of Every Detail Matters this cycle) * Settings (lots of updates to the control center) * Input methods (plenty of updates here too) So that's 11 items, which is probably a bit too many. The weakest features (from a marketing perspective) are probably initial setup, details, settings and input methods. Any opinions on what should be demoted? Allan -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: 3.8 Release Planning
Working away here at the responses to the interview questions (Hi Flavia! Expect my reply by tomorrow morning at the very latest) as well as my section for the Annual, should have that tightened up by the weekend. -Brett On Feb 28, 2013 1:30 PM, Flavia Weisghizzi fla...@weisghizzi.it wrote: Please keep me in consideration, if I may help in some way I'll be very happy to offer my experience as journalist :) Flavia Il 28/02/2013 19:23, Karen Sandler ha scritto: On Thu, February 28, 2013 1:17 pm, Allan Day wrote: Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: I can do the press release, I did part of it last time. I'll figure out how to get the quotations. That would be great, Sri! First thing to do is to figure out who we want to approach. I've got the list, and would be happy to send out the emails. It would be great to have a small group ready to field questions since sometimes there's a tight timetable for turnaround. I'd be happy to do it, and Vincent would be great too if he's got the time. Who else should we ask? May I help in some way? What kind of blogposts should we have? We're lining up interviews with GNOME users, and we have 2 in the works now. Would that be the kind of content you mean? karen We have the interview to Greg completed, I'm waiting for Brett answers, than next week I'll write the interview to Mccann too. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/**mailman/listinfo/marketing-**listhttps://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Expectations of 'Classic' mode
GNOME Redux :) On Feb 25, 2013 12:49 PM, Calum Benson calum.ben...@oracle.com wrote: On 25 Feb 2013, at 17:40, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Eww.. let's not call it Lite anything because it sounds like it is inferior to GNOME 3 and I don't want to give that impression. Don't worry, I hate the term myself so I was mostly joking :) (But on the other hand, if we didn't believe GNOME 3 was a superior experience, there would be no reason to have stopped working on GNOME 2… and 'Lite' does perhaps actually convey a suitability for less capable hardware, which is less obvious with 'Classic'.) --Calum. -- CALUM BENSONInteraction Designer +353 1 803 3807 Systems Experience Design http://blogs.oracle.com/calum Oracle EMEA Ltd., Ireland -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Expectations of 'Classic' mode
Well, as the distinguishing feature (or one that stands out, anyway) is the fact that it goes back to the older style with panels, why not call it GNOME Panels? Though Classic didn't sound too bad to me, it isn't technically the classic GNOME anymore, so why not break from the name. Brett On Feb 15, 2013 6:37 AM, Matthias Clasen matthias.cla...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: Note that various distributions (e.g. Ubuntu) created a 'classic' session which included gnome-panel. Reusing the name might create confusion. Btw: no clue who decided upon 'classic' and if it is changeable. But like to run it by marketing. It wasn't exactly decided; it is just a name that showed up and then stuck; I fear it is too late to change now. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: distro that is focused on accessibilty
Agreed, this is good (I have a lovely blind spot in my left eye that so far shows no signs of growing, but it is something that may be a factor in the future...) The Sonar Project looks promising and anything we can do to help out will be beneficial for all involved. Hi All, I was reading on /r/Linux on reddit about a distro that is looking for donations to work on a completely accessible operating system. I posted a note talking about our own efforts at accessibility. More importantly, we are doing our own fund drive and perhaps it might be worth doing something jointly. I have asked them to contact me. I'm hoping that this might be a good partnership. sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Annual report
Okay, this looks good - as per the next thread on the topic, I'll have a look at the wiki page and throw my hat into the ring for something. Let's get to work! -Brett So we have had a thread on this back in November. Please read through the thread and then put forth any ideas from that thread since it seems to have progressed quite a bit. That way we can leverage the previous conversation instead of starting completely over: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2012-November/msg1.html sri On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Fabiana Simões fabianapsim...@gmail.comwrote: It could be good to start drafting an outline of the report, like a summary or something. As a volunteer, I, for one, would find easier to take a topic out of this outline to write about, than to propose a topic out of the blue. Perhaps people who have worked on previous reports could kick off this? Best, Fabiana On 01/24/2013 08:14 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: I have a number of volunteers now who have volunteered to help out. A total of 3 new people. We should probably start talking about how we want to do this. How do you people want to proceed? sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Marketing Minutes December 13, 2012
Karen - perhaps Jakub Steiner would be a good person to interview (since you had suggested having a designer in there, he's a great place to start I think!) -Brett On Dec 14, 2012 4:22 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Fri, December 14, 2012 1:57 pm, Allan Day wrote: Thanks again for the minutes, Emily. yes! :) I was unable to attend the meeting, due to not being able to dial in again (this time I kept being told that the PIN was wrong). Very strange, but let me know if you want me to set up another test call if you want to try and troubleshoot it. Also, as I was telling Flavia, I can call one person and conference them in too. Maybe someone else on the call can also do that next time so that we get everyone who's having trouble. Emily Gonyer emilyyr...@gmail.com wrote: Minutes from Marketing Tele-Conference, December 13, 2013 Participants: Sririm Ramkrishna, Karen Sandler, Andreas Nilsson, Emily Gonyer, Alan Day, Olav Vitters, Flavia Weisghizzi Oliver Propst was on the call (heavensmile), I don't think Olav was. Topic: Community Outreach/Development Sri: Theres a common wisdom that GNOME will throw out features and are unfriendly. We've let others tell our story for us. As a result, most of the press we receive is negative, focusing on GNOME 3's failures and shortcomings. ... I don't think it's actually that hard to figure out what we need to do to improve the perception of GNOME and GNOME 3. There are lots of examples that run contrary to the negative discourse that has been circulating - you don't have to look far to find people who love GNOME 3, or to find developers and designers who are receptive to feedback or who are doing cool stuff. I love this - as I mentioned on a different thread, I'm working on putting together a series of interviews of GNOME users, starting with greggKH and Brett. Do you know of any other awesome folks we should feature? It might be an obvious point, but GNOME contributors don't actually conform to the way that they are often described. Our task is to let the world know about the great side of GNOME that people don't often hear about, by sharing positive stories about GNOME 3 and our community. That can be through writing blog posts, talking to the press, sharing posts on social media channels (either personal accounts or the GNOME ones), or by participating in forums and mailing lists. We also need advocates who can liaise between our core contributors and the disparate communities that are interested in GNOME. The difficult part is finding people to take on all these tasks, and I actually think that growing and sustaining the GNOME marketing effort is the biggest challenge that we face: we need to focus on how we can grow the GNOME marketing effort. The telephone meetings are a fantastic start here, but we need to do more. Perhaps one thing we can do is put together a wish list of simple things we'd like to see done, sort of a GNOME love approach to marketing. That way when newcomers ask for things to do we have a whole list to choose from. We'd have to make it all things that are not very time sensitive, but even just listing articles or interviews we'd like to see written could be a good start. One thing we obviously need is critical mass - a few core contributors who can drive things forward by coordinating activity and by enabling and encouraging people to participate. We also need our contributors to feel motivated and valued. One possible way we could help with this would be to invite designers and developers to come and speak to the marketing crew as a part of regular meetings (I'd be happy to help organise that). Another thing we should think about is how to give exposure to marketing contributors. Things like having identifiable authors on gnome.org could really help. It could also be good to have regular activity reports on the list as a way to celebrate the work done by our marketing contributors. We talked at this meeting about inviting designers and developers to our calls maybe on a monthly basis. If you wanted to help organize that it would be awesome! What do others think? What can we do to grow the GNOME outreach effort? Our actual outreach efforts (mostly around OPW and GSoC) have been really successful, maybe we need to highlight that more too? I don't think we ever really did anything with the materials that were prepared at GUADEC even by the newcomers... karen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: marketing meeting next week!
That sounds great to me, a series of interviews with different types of users would be very interesting - let me know when you're ready for the interview and I'll be happy to help out! With some luck (crossing fingers) I will have a nice new Fedora 18 Beta on one of my machines (an HP Mini-Note 2133 I use around the house early in the morning) - I left the installer running today as I dashed out the door to drop my four children off at school... ! -Brett On Dec 12, 2012 10:45 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Fri, December 7, 2012 10:18 am, Brett Legree wrote: Okay, I will write something up (hopefully over the weekend) and I'll include a few photos/screenshots - people like that sometimes! Yes, Greg was interviewed recently on The Setup http://greg.kh.usesthis.comand there he talks about using GNOME on his workstation (he is also using i3 on another machine along with the GNOME session handling) - which reminds me, I must revive my Google+ page that I modeled after this site. I've just been too busy having fun doing other stuff. Greg has agreed to be interviewed for a profile as a GNOME user. I'd love to line up a few of these, and maybe publish them monthly! I was thinking - one on gregkh (the serious hacker type) one on Brett (the technically oriented user) and then do one on someone who's either a designer-type or non-technical user and then one on a business-y type of user. What do you guys think? karen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: marketing meeting next week!
Nice! The X1 Carbon is quite the machine indeed, the HP that I mentioned would cower in fear next to your computer :) (It has a blazing fast VIA C7 processor...) -Brett On Dec 13, 2012 12:35 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: I got fedora 18 beta running on my X1 Carbon.. So sweet! It has some performance issues that is related to the driver. I have to bug Fedora QA about it, I think. On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 6:56 AM, Brett Legree brett.leg...@gmail.comwrote: That sounds great to me, a series of interviews with different types of users would be very interesting - let me know when you're ready for the interview and I'll be happy to help out! With some luck (crossing fingers) I will have a nice new Fedora 18 Beta on one of my machines (an HP Mini-Note 2133 I use around the house early in the morning) - I left the installer running today as I dashed out the door to drop my four children off at school... ! -Brett On Dec 12, 2012 10:45 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Fri, December 7, 2012 10:18 am, Brett Legree wrote: Okay, I will write something up (hopefully over the weekend) and I'll include a few photos/screenshots - people like that sometimes! Yes, Greg was interviewed recently on The Setup http://greg.kh.usesthis.comand there he talks about using GNOME on his workstation (he is also using i3 on another machine along with the GNOME session handling) - which reminds me, I must revive my Google+ page that I modeled after this site. I've just been too busy having fun doing other stuff. Greg has agreed to be interviewed for a profile as a GNOME user. I'd love to line up a few of these, and maybe publish them monthly! I was thinking - one on gregkh (the serious hacker type) one on Brett (the technically oriented user) and then do one on someone who's either a designer-type or non-technical user and then one on a business-y type of user. What do you guys think? karen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: marketing meeting on Thursday, Dec 13, 2012 20:00 UTC
Thanks for this - looks like a good start. I have been pulled into a meeting at 19:30 UTC - hopefully I can get out to join the call. (Argh. Such is life as a nuclear inspector.) Wish me luck, and apologies if I don't make the call - I can always review the minutes. Just give me some actions and turn me loose :-) Brett On Dec 13, 2012 12:36 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Thanks, Karen! On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 7:16 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: And here's the dial-in info: PSTN: +1-718-247-9666 SIP: sip:c...@sfconservancy.onsip.com PIN: 5268 Also, here are a few sentences I wrote to get things started on the Friends of GNOME campaign: http://piratepad.net/USKCvLBtK8 I don't think we need much in the way of content to go ahead and launch... karen On Mon, December 10, 2012 1:49 pm, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: Agenda: * Community outreach * Define the problem * Define the message * Define methods that we can resolve gaps in communication * How are forums and world of gnome working for us * reporter outreach These are sample topics. Feel free to come up with your own and we can try to resolve what would fit. I suspect that this is part 1 First approve the time slot, and then the topics. Thanks! -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: marketing test call tomorrow (Friday) (was Re: marketing meeting next week!)
I'll be in the middle of a lunch meeting then, however, as I'll be calling in by phone for the real call next week, it shouldn't be a problem. Brett On Dec 7, 2012 1:57 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Thanks Karen for setting this up! The current bits of software that we have been trying out so far has been: * Ekiga * Twinkle * linphone More choices here: http://www.voipsupply.com/blog/free-sip-softphone-roundup sri On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Thu, December 6, 2012 1:11 am, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: I want to do one test call Friday so that we can get everybody's software working prior to the real meeting. We spent way too much time trying to get things working and I want to not waste time getting people's software working. Why don't we do the test call tomorrow (Friday) at 17:30 UTC? That's 6:30pm Europe/12:30pm east coast/9:30am west coast. Here's dial-in information: PSTN: +1-718-247-9666 SIP: sip:c...@sfconservancy.onsip.com PIN: 7925 karen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: marketing meeting next week!
Good day all, One suggestion is to engage various journalists, tech bloggers, or other online personalities who either write about GNOME (good or bad feedback) or use/have used it. For example, Bruce Byfield just wrote a fairly positive article on how we need to engage with the community, get our message out more clearly - hey, good idea ;-) Others have not been so kind, but I'd say if we reach out to them with positive news before they pick up rumours from the grapevine, we can sort of use them as positive messengers. Another idea for instance - some tech blogs that have been writing about GNOME welcome guest articles (Muktware is one) - if we can start getting articles out there, again food for us. I could take Muktware as I know the owner of the site. Brett On Dec 6, 2012 1:12 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Howdy folks, It's that time to start thinking about when to schedule our marketing meeting next week. Is the same time frame okay or do people want to try a different time frame in order to have more people. I know that several people keen on attending. I would request the people who volunteered for community outreach attend this as we will probably spend the entire hour talking about community management. Before we talk, we probably want to plan on a structured discussion as I think that without one we won't come out of the meeting without any concrete goals. We should strive to have some kind of actionable item at the end of the discussion. Can we open the floor on what we want to focus on, in the next meeting? I want to do one test call Friday so that we can get everybody's software working prior to the real meeting. We spent way too much time trying to get things working and I want to not waste time getting people's software working. Once we find a bullet proof method, we can put it on l.g.o and reference it. sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: marketing meeting next week!
Great! Yes, Katherine Noyes is another friendly, positive person I had in mind. That's a good plan - to figure out what we want to showcase, and then start writing and submitting. One thing I've noticed a lot of detractors say is that you can't do 'real work' with GNOME - which is a load of hullabaloo, as we know. Surely the people who code it, design it, and so forth are using it. Greg KH uses it on at least one of his systems, and what he does is pretty intense. I'm a nuclear engineer and when I'm using Linux, GNOME is my graphical shell of choice (I don't use it to design reactors, but I use it to do engineering consulting work and it does the job just fine - the nature of the UI helps me to stay focused on the task at hand, distraction free). So obviously it isn't just for Facebook and frivolous things - which all of us know, but the idea is to get the message out there. -Brett On Dec 7, 2012 9:56 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Fri, December 7, 2012 4:28 am, Brett Legree wrote: Good day all, One suggestion is to engage various journalists, tech bloggers, or other online personalities who either write about GNOME (good or bad feedback) or use/have used it. For example, Bruce Byfield just wrote a fairly positive article on how we need to engage with the community, get our message out more clearly - hey, good idea ;-) Others have not been so kind, but I'd say if we reach out to them with positive news before they pick up rumours from the grapevine, we can sort of use them as positive messengers. Agreed! I have an email interview with Bruce that I'm working on now, and I also have been in touch with Katherine Noyes too. I've also contacted a few other reporters. Everyone - let me know what points to highlight! Another idea for instance - some tech blogs that have been writing about GNOME welcome guest articles (Muktware is one) - if we can start getting articles out there, again food for us. I could take Muktware as I know the owner of the site. This is a great idea - the barrier in the past has been generating the necessary content to do this. Perhaps we should start by writing what we wish were out there and then shopping it around? karen Brett On Dec 6, 2012 1:12 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Howdy folks, It's that time to start thinking about when to schedule our marketing meeting next week. Is the same time frame okay or do people want to try a different time frame in order to have more people. I know that several people keen on attending. I would request the people who volunteered for community outreach attend this as we will probably spend the entire hour talking about community management. Before we talk, we probably want to plan on a structured discussion as I think that without one we won't come out of the meeting without any concrete goals. We should strive to have some kind of actionable item at the end of the discussion. Can we open the floor on what we want to focus on, in the next meeting? I want to do one test call Friday so that we can get everybody's software working prior to the real meeting. We spent way too much time trying to get things working and I want to not waste time getting people's software working. Once we find a bullet proof method, we can put it on l.g.o and reference it. sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: marketing meeting next week!
Okay, I will write something up (hopefully over the weekend) and I'll include a few photos/screenshots - people like that sometimes! Yes, Greg was interviewed recently on The Setup http://greg.kh.usesthis.comand there he talks about using GNOME on his workstation (he is also using i3 on another machine along with the GNOME session handling) - which reminds me, I must revive my Google+ page that I modeled after this site. I've just been too busy having fun doing other stuff. -Brett On Dec 7, 2012 10:11 AM, Emily Gonyer emilyyr...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 10:09 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Fri, December 7, 2012 10:05 am, Brett Legree wrote: Great! Yes, Katherine Noyes is another friendly, positive person I had in mind. That's a good plan - to figure out what we want to showcase, and then start writing and submitting. One thing I've noticed a lot of detractors say is that you can't do 'real work' with GNOME - which is a load of hullabaloo, as we know. Surely the people who code it, design it, and so forth are using it. Greg KH uses it on at least one of his systems, and what he does is pretty intense. Great - I'll contact Greg! I'm a nuclear engineer and when I'm using Linux, GNOME is my graphical shell of choice (I don't use it to design reactors, but I use it to do engineering consulting work and it does the job just fine - the nature of the UI helps me to stay focused on the task at hand, distraction free). Wow! You should write this up in more detail then this can be some of the content we use :) I agree - that sounds very cool! *I* certainly want to read about it :) Emily karen So obviously it isn't just for Facebook and frivolous things - which all of us know, but the idea is to get the message out there. -Brett On Dec 7, 2012 9:56 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Fri, December 7, 2012 4:28 am, Brett Legree wrote: Good day all, One suggestion is to engage various journalists, tech bloggers, or other online personalities who either write about GNOME (good or bad feedback) or use/have used it. For example, Bruce Byfield just wrote a fairly positive article on how we need to engage with the community, get our message out more clearly - hey, good idea ;-) Others have not been so kind, but I'd say if we reach out to them with positive news before they pick up rumours from the grapevine, we can sort of use them as positive messengers. Agreed! I have an email interview with Bruce that I'm working on now, and I also have been in touch with Katherine Noyes too. I've also contacted a few other reporters. Everyone - let me know what points to highlight! Another idea for instance - some tech blogs that have been writing about GNOME welcome guest articles (Muktware is one) - if we can start getting articles out there, again food for us. I could take Muktware as I know the owner of the site. This is a great idea - the barrier in the past has been generating the necessary content to do this. Perhaps we should start by writing what we wish were out there and then shopping it around? karen Brett On Dec 6, 2012 1:12 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Howdy folks, It's that time to start thinking about when to schedule our marketing meeting next week. Is the same time frame okay or do people want to try a different time frame in order to have more people. I know that several people keen on attending. I would request the people who volunteered for community outreach attend this as we will probably spend the entire hour talking about community management. Before we talk, we probably want to plan on a structured discussion as I think that without one we won't come out of the meeting without any concrete goals. We should strive to have some kind of actionable item at the end of the discussion. Can we open the floor on what we want to focus on, in the next meeting? I want to do one test call Friday so that we can get everybody's software working prior to the real meeting. We spent way too much time trying to get things working and I want to not waste time getting people's software working. Once we find a bullet proof method, we can put it on l.g.o and reference it. sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic
Re: Marketing meeting..
So much for me getting back to you :-( I'll respond formally to the other message now. Brett On Nov 26, 2012 3:34 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: I would like any of the other volunteers for community organizer (or enthusiasts, whatever) to join as well. Brett and others, if you could. At the moment it looks like Tuesday or Wednesday. 21:00 UTC on Wedneday is what I think we should shoot for. sri On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 6:00 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: great! Why don't you fill in your availability at https://dudle.inf.tu-dresden.**de/GNOMEmarketing/https://dudle.inf.tu-dresden.de/GNOMEmarketing/ :) karen On 2012-11-24 10:44, Flavia Weisghizzi wrote: I'd like to partecipate too, if I'm allowed to :) Cheers Flavia Il 22/11/2012 19:39, Sriram Ramkrishna ha scritto: Anybody else interested in joining? Please let me know by Sunday. Currently, the best time seems to be Tuesday, Nov 28th. It says 21:00, but I don't know which time zone that is. On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org [2] wrote: On Wed, November 21, 2012 9:48 pm, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: We should try to target a marketing call next week after the U.S. holidays. What's that scheduler thing that lets us figure out each other's free time? yes! here's the link, a bunch of us have already filled in our availability. Times are in UTC, I just chose a range that's more likely to work, given the various time zones... https://dudle.inf.tu-dresden.**de/GNOMEmarketing/https://dudle.inf.tu-dresden.de/GNOMEmarketing/[1] karen Links: -- [1] https://dudle.inf.tu-dresden.**de/GNOMEmarketing/https://dudle.inf.tu-dresden.de/GNOMEmarketing/ [2] mailto:ka...@gnome.org -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/**mailman/listinfo/marketing-**listhttps://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Tuesday 18:00 UTC meeting (was Re: Marketing meeting..)
Just checking my work schedule, and I will not be able to make the meeting - I have to provide oversight of a commissioning test for a very high profile project that will be starting up this week. All the best for the meeting, Brett On Nov 26, 2012 8:28 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: That works for me. When you send it out the details I will mail with a new thread announcing the meeting or if you could do that since I'm three hours behind east coast time then people have more time to get the information than waiting for me to wake up. Thanks folks! Looking forward to talking to you all tomorrow. sri On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Mon, November 26, 2012 7:58 pm, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: OK, it seems my last meeting time frame, Allan can't make it and well it's not much of a meeting without him. :-) So, I'm proposing this new time: Tuesday - November 27, 2012 - 18:00 UTC Karen - IRC or Phone? Since it is kind of short notice, let me know which is the most convenient. If we are using phone, some of you should be able to use gtalk or something to dial in. I will try to set up a call, but I won't be able to do it until tomorrow morning. I'll send out info when I have it. And we can use IRC as a backup option. karen Allan - you can make this one? Proposed Agenda: 1) collect open agenda items 2) FoG 3) Community outreach - status, forums, training, vision etc If I end up talking a lot I will need someone else to take attendance and meeting minutes. Apologies to everyone who can't make it. It was difficult not being able to fit to everyone's schedule. sri On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:30 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.mewrote: I would like any of the other volunteers for community organizer (or enthusiasts, whatever) to join as well. Brett and others, if you could. At the moment it looks like Tuesday or Wednesday. 21:00 UTC on Wedneday is what I think we should shoot for. sri On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 6:00 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: great! Why don't you fill in your availability at https://dudle.inf.tu-dresden.**de/GNOMEmarketing/ https://dudle.inf.tu-dresden.de/GNOMEmarketing/ :) karen On 2012-11-24 10:44, Flavia Weisghizzi wrote: I'd like to partecipate too, if I'm allowed to :) Cheers Flavia Il 22/11/2012 19:39, Sriram Ramkrishna ha scritto: Anybody else interested in joining? Please let me know by Sunday. Currently, the best time seems to be Tuesday, Nov 28th. It says 21:00, but I don't know which time zone that is. On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 7:28 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org[2] wrote: On Wed, November 21, 2012 9:48 pm, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: We should try to target a marketing call next week after the U.S. holidays. What's that scheduler thing that lets us figure out each other's free time? yes! here's the link, a bunch of us have already filled in our availability. Times are in UTC, I just chose a range that's more likely to work, given the various time zones... https://dudle.inf.tu-dresden.**de/GNOMEmarketing/ https://dudle.inf.tu-dresden.de/GNOMEmarketing/[1] karen Links: -- [1] https://dudle.inf.tu-dresden.**de/GNOMEmarketing/ https://dudle.inf.tu-dresden.de/GNOMEmarketing/ [2] mailto:ka...@gnome.org -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/**mailman/listinfo/marketing-**list https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: installing owncloud..
Seems pretty logical to me. -Brett On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 1:02 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.mewrote: Guys, What do you think about using owncloud for collaboration? It allows us to share a calendar I believe and files and what not. It is completely open source. Also, I remember one of the owncloud guys coming into #marketing asking about nautilus integration. So they definitely seem interested in us as well. I could volunteer to install it.. av: what do you think? sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: push back on negative articles
Agreed - that article was complete and utter sensationalistic garbage. GNOME 3 doesn't seem to be failing on my desktop. -Brett On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: We really need to push back on negative articles like this one: http://www.datamation.com/open-source/gnome-seven-possible-recovery-strategies-3.html conventional wisdom is that GNOME 3 has failed seriously. What the hell. sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Ubuntu GNOME Flavor naming
GNUntu - yeah, that's good. Clever. Brett On Aug 16, 2012 6:15 AM, Klaus Bogotz kla...@gr7.org wrote: Jeremy Bicha jbicha at ubuntu.com writes: We want to run our proposed name past GNOME first to avoid the hassle and conflicts of being forced to later rename the project. Why not name it Gnuntu? Regards, Klaus -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Ubuntu GNOME Flavor naming
Good point, Juanjo - it should be neutral. Brett On Aug 16, 2012 7:17 AM, Juanjo Marín juanjomari...@yahoo.es wrote: De: Brett Legree brett.leg...@gmail.com Para: Klaus Bogotz kla...@gr7.org CC: marketing-list@gnome.org Enviado: Jueves 16 de agosto de 2012 12:33 Asunto: Re: Ubuntu GNOME Flavor naming GNUntu - yeah, that's good. Clever. Well, I don't think the GNU project would like this. It makes you think all the software from the distro will be sanctionated by the FSF, that I don't know if it is teh case. So, I think Gnuntu or GNuntu would be better, though I still prefer Ubuntu GNOME. Cheers, -- Juanjo Marin -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Ubuntu GNOME Flavor naming
Sri, that's excellent! Brett On Aug 16, 2012 1:49 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: I'm still partial to GNObuntu, but that's probably because I always pronounce the G so there's no negative association. Ubuntu GNOME sounds fine to me too. UbuGNOME? It almost sounds like 'Uber GNOME which makes it sounds like a rockin awesome version of GNOME.. good for both projects, yes? sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Ubuntu GNOME Flavor naming
I have spent some time reviewing this http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy for other reasons, and there is a section pertaining to naming remixes. I would suggest Ubuntu GSR (for GNOME Shell Remix), it sounds kind of high-tech, mysterious, perhaps a bit mechanical (a motorcycle of some kind?) and it isn't hard to pronounce. Regards, Brett On Aug 13, 2012 4:23 PM, Juanjo Marín juanjomari...@yahoo.es wrote: - Mensaje original - De: Jeremy Bicha jbi...@ubuntu.com Para: bo...@gnome.org; marketing-list@gnome.org CC: Ryan Lortie de...@desrt.ca; Robert Ancell robert.anc...@ubuntu.com; Sebastien Bacher seb...@ubuntu.com Enviado: Lunes 13 de agosto de 2012 17:56 Asunto: Ubuntu GNOME Flavor naming At the Ubuntu Developer Summit in May, several of us that work with GNOME in Ubuntu discussed the need for a Ubuntu community derivative similar to Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and others but which will try to ship a relatively pure GNOME experience. That sounds really good ! . Users who love Ubuntu and GNOME will be much much happier :-) The traditional Ubuntu naming convention for these alternate flavors is Gubuntu but it seems that could cause confusion with the pronunciation of Google's internal distribution Goobuntu. We'd like to instead use GNObuntu. I agree that Gubuntu and Goobuntu are confusing, but I also agree with Sri that GNObuntu sounds a little bit like a negative assertion or something like that (Gnome NO (U)buntu). I'd prefer something without any possible misinterpretation. Just my two cent, -- Juanjo Marin -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Ubuntu GNOME Flavor naming
Good point :-) Brett On Aug 13, 2012 5:17 PM, Juanjo Marín juanjomari...@yahoo.es wrote: De: Brett Legree brett.leg...@gmail.com Para: Jeremy Bicha jbi...@ubuntu.com CC: Ryan Lortie de...@desrt.ca; Robert Ancell robert.anc...@ubuntu.com; marketing-list@gnome.org marketing-list@gnome.org; Sebastien Bacher seb...@ubuntu.com; bo...@gnome.org Enviado: Lunes 13 de agosto de 2012 23:08 Asunto: Re: Ubuntu GNOME Flavor naming I'm quite sure you would be approved. Your point about it having the fallback is good - Ubuntu GR perhaps. Hmm, I don't know what Ubuntu Greek folks may think about it :-) http://ubuntu-gr.org/ Cheers, -- Juanjo Marin -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: happy birthday GNOME website!
How about a look how far we've come piece, very brief, could be done with pictures e.g. a screenshot of GNOME 1.0, 1.4, 2.0, 2.32, and the latest build of 3.6 (or go with 3.4, if we want to keep it to releases)? That might be a nice visual retrospective. -Brett On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: As many of you know from GUADEC, GNOME's 15th anniversary is coming up very soon - on August 15! Some of us were talking about putting up a website, and after Andreas' suggestion at GUADEC I went ahead and registered HappyBirthdayGNOME.com and HappyBirthdayGNOME.org What should we have on the site? We've got all that great footage taken by the outreach participants at GUADEC, which we should definitely use if we can... We don't have a lot of time, so I think we should keep things simple, if possible. karen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: SELF
Awesome. Regarding desktop share, you know the saying: There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics. -Brett On Jun 10, 2012 5:02 PM, Jayson Rowe jayson.r...@gmail.com wrote: Just wanted to follow-up by saying that the Fedora booth (where I hung out a bit) had quite a few different GNOME stickers to give out, and I talked about GNOME with as many folks as I could. There was also an awesome moment in the evening keynote Saturday when Steven J Vaughn-Nichols was shocked when so many GNOME users raised their hands when he asked how many users of each DE was there (this was after he touted KDE as the #1 desktop currently based on some survey he found). We had the strongest showing among the hand-raisers ;-) On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 3:06 AM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: Hi Bryen, On 06/02/2012 11:15 PM, Bryen M Yunashko wrote: I'll be at SELF, but working the openSUSE booth. And FYI, KDE will also have a booth there. I assumed, wrongly, that GNOME was going to have a booth there. :-/ This is, I think, part of the problem. Every conference I've been to has had a decent number of GNOME people there manning stands - the OpenSUSE stand, the Ubuntu stand, the Fedora stand, the Mozilla stand, the Collabora stand... When Sri says that we don't have many people in the Sounth West, I may be wrong, but I'm betting he's thinking of corporate offices. Somehow, GNOME users developers self-identify more strongly with other groups than with GNOME now. Or at least, it seems that way to me. Is that a legacy of having more paid developers, and the unpaid contributors not feeling the ownership/authority to represent the brand? I don't know if my analysis is correct, and if it is, I don't know how to help fix it. All I can say is, there are a *lot* of GNOME people in the South East. Especially in North Carolina (there is a Red Hat office in Raleigh). But I don't know many of them. I know Ken Van Dine ived in that part of the world though - perhaps he knows more people specifically? Cheers, Dave. PS. In Europe, it is the local chapters who request stand space for GNOME - and the GNOME Foundation is often unaware of either the conference or the stand. Is it a requirement to be effective that these requests come through us centrally? I know I've regretted that we don't have regional GNOME groups in the US in the past. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- -jayson -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: New design Live Gnome
Elena, Glad to lend a hand - certainly, please do take them as suggestions, since I am not a designer in any way shape or form! However, I do my best as a UI enthusiast and a cheerleader for people who *can* design - thanks again, -Brett On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Elena Petrevska elenapetrevsk...@gmail.com wrote: Brett, at first, thanks for the encouragement and for the contribution. I will comment as I go through the mail. On 06/09/2012 07:53 PM, Brett Legree wrote: Good day Elena, Just a few more ideas to add to the mix, and sort of build on what Sri suggested. I attached a GIMP-edited version of your original image (should I instead be posting a link to an online site for this? Not sure of the protocol for the mailing list, if I should please let me know). I actually like the changes a lot. It is not a problem in both ways, you are fine with this method. As I am new, I am trying to get a feel for the purpose of the page, so I did a bit of cut paste to try and group things together or make things flow a bit. I put Search up at the top right so it is above the fold by default, for new and more experienced users, and I suggested moving the User Login part a bit lower in the hierarchy (since someone with a login would be familiar with the page). You really did some very useful changes. thanks ! I thought it was okay to have Join GNOME at the top (not sure where the link goes - to another page with all of them listed, or to the bottom of the page where they are spread out?) as well as at the bottom, as it would seem logical we want people to join the various projects. Or, we could try to have only one link to each topic, to simplify things for both users and coders (just something I picked up in my studies of UI/UX, I believe there are 6 or 7 ways to print a document in Microsoft Word, for instance, via shortcut keys, icons etc., some of them do the same thing, and some of them do not work exactly the same way). We will talk about this on the mailing list and I will (in the mean time) take care of implementing them in a design. You could experiment with that spread out list of links to the different Teams, perhaps with justified/non-justified arrangement of the text, alphabetical ordering maybe, or perhaps some kind of logical arrangement based on what is most important to the project as a whole (though I think they are all important - hence the suggestion for alphabetical ordering). I will certainly try it. Anyway, just some suggestions of course and apologies for hacking your image apart (!) my GIMP-fu is still not as strong as it could be, so the boxes in my edited copy do not always line up the way they could or might. Hope it helps in any case - keep up the good work - Brett It was very helpful Brett, thanks again ! Elena -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Interviews please? :)
I guess I misunderstood your original question :) Once we decide how to do #4 and have settled on the designs, I can take care of sending stickers to anyone from Canada (as I am here). On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 5:12 AM, alex diavatis alexis.diava...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Brett Legree brett.leg...@gmail.comwrote: Re: #4: CafePress does nice work for stickers/decals, and coincidentally I had a custom one made for myself some time ago just like this http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/How-to-Install-GNOME-3-on-Ubuntu-11-04-2.jpg I thought it would look nice on my laptop! I am sure there are others too. Sure there are places, I can go to a store in Athens (Greece) to print GNOME stickers for free. I just asked to have the originals. -Brett On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 4:14 AM, alex diavatis alexis.diava...@gmail.comwrote: Hello Dave! On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: Hi! On 06/07/2012 04:05 AM, alex diavatis wrote: 2. We have unexpected lot of people considering that we are online 4-5 days and the purpose of this blog was mostly to have people talking. So can we have some small interviews from the BoD of GNOME? -mostly talking for the future of GNOME on commercial use, touch screens etc... Perhaps not the board, but I think the idea of short blog-sized interviews going out weekly is a great idea. We need a list of interviewees and volunteer interviewers, and someone watching out for people we can add to the list/bump to the top as current news requires.\ There is no need to complicate things :) We would like to have interviews with developers from specific projects: gtk/clutter porting to wayland, mutter/shell, epiphany, boxes, online accounts -as priority. I asked also BoD because, it would be nice if someone could talk about the marketing goals of GNOME. But in general yes we want in a weekly base people from GNOME to talk on public. 3. We want to post some successfully GNOME deployment stories but your page (https://live.gnome.org/**GnomeMarketing/**GnomeDeploymentshttps://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/GnomeDeployments) is outdated :( Any other source I can look for? I'm afraid not! That list was put together originally in 2006, partially updated in 2008, and as Juanjo said, he updated details on 1 or 2 deployments this year. But we're lacking a good way to find out about reference deployments of GNOME because a lot of them are Red Hat Enterprise deployments or Suse Linux. We've actually had more success getting references from Suse and Ubuntu than from Red Hat for some reason. Not sure why that is. Maybe the guys from RH could give us some info about the deployments they do, or it is secret? :) 4. We want to run a contest file a bug for a sticker. So whoever file a new bug we will send him a gnome sticker. Possibly none will response to this, but you never know, so we need to have some, but where we can buy from? I don't think we've ever had stickers to sell, but we often print out sticker sheets for conferences. Perhaps someone from gnome-fr or GNOME can send you some, if we have an address. At some point a GNOME online store wouldn't be bad idea, not for the profit but everyone has one :) I will ask Greek GNOME ambassador for it then. May I ask who we is? Hmm? I am referring to wogue blog if is that what you asking Cheers, Dave. - alex -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Interviews please? :)
Okay, great. I am ready to go at any time! On Jun 7, 2012 6:49 AM, alex diavatis alexis.diava...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote: Hi, On 06/07/2012 11:24 AM, Brett Legree wrote: I guess I misunderstood your original question :) Once we decide how to do #4 and have settled on the designs, I can take care of sending stickers to anyone from Canada (as I am here). We have designs for sticker sheets which have been very popular in the wiki: https://live.gnome.org/**MarketingTeam/**MarketingMaterial?action=* *AttachFiledo=viewtarget=**gnome-stickers.svghttps://live.gnome.org/MarketingTeam/MarketingMaterial?action=AttachFiledo=viewtarget=gnome-stickers.svg As I said before, we regularly do print runs of them for the event box and for events, so it's possible that someone could send some out to you. Great as long as I have the icons I can print them by myself! Just let me know (somehow) when you have the new ones! Note to the marketing team in general: by moving the MarketingTeam/**MarketingMaterial page to GnomeMarketing/**MarketingMaterial, we have orphaned all of the attachments which had been uploaded to that page. The attachments also need to be manually renamed when moving a page. I actually consider this a bug in MoinMoin, but that's neither here nor there. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org Jabber: nea...@gmail.com -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Hello - wish to contribute to GNOME Marketing
Good morning Karen - and thank you! I would love to help out and that looks like a great place to start, so I will jump right in. I'll definitely be around on IRC (I was out yesterday, actually - had to shake out the cobwebs and remember how to use it, it has been years...) Once I have some feedback I will let the team know, and after I get my feet wet and have some experience, I'm definitely keen to work on new projects as they arise too. Thanks again, -Brett On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 12:09 AM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote: On Sat, June 2, 2012 4:18 pm, Brett Legree wrote: Hello, Just a quick note to say hello - my name is Brett Legree, I am a nuclear and chemical engineer by trade, a technology enthusiast by passion, mostly in the area of UI/UX, and so this means that I work with and test as many different operating systems and interfaces as I can find. I like to write and speak in front of people (I do it for a living as part of my job) and I thought that I could put some of my talents and interests to work with the GNOME project. Marketing seemed a possible fit for me (I even studied it as a minor at school, and worked in sales for a time, as well as taking formal presentation science training), and so I am here to help! I have not stopped in yet on IRC but will do so when I can (I was speaking with Sri on Google+ and he suggested I do that!) Oh, you can find me on Google+ obviously as Brett Legree. Thanks, and hope to get started helping however I can. Welcome Brett! An easy thing if you're looking for getting started is to read the materials we've got up in draft form for our biannual report and just help us make sure everything is readable, checking for typos and the like! A lot of the materials are linked to from here: https://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/AnnualReport/AnnualReport2011 Whether it's this or something else you get involved in, thanks in advance and hope to see you in the IRC channel! :) karen -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Hello - wish to contribute to GNOME Marketing
Thanks - looks like a healthy list indeed! -Brett On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Um.. good question: Sriram Ramkrishna Allen Day Karen Sandler Alberto Ruiz Christy Eller Dave Neary Bryen Yunashko Emily Gonyer Juanjo Marin Stormy Peters Anybody else I've missed? On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Brett Legree brett.leg...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks Jayson - I have a feeling this will be great. Question, if I may, about how many folks are part of the team? -Brett On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Jayson Rowe jayson.r...@gmail.comwrote: Welcome Brett! I'm actually just getting back into the swing of things myself. -- -jayson -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Hello - wish to contribute to GNOME Marketing
Hello, Just a quick note to say hello - my name is Brett Legree, I am a nuclear and chemical engineer by trade, a technology enthusiast by passion, mostly in the area of UI/UX, and so this means that I work with and test as many different operating systems and interfaces as I can find. I like to write and speak in front of people (I do it for a living as part of my job) and I thought that I could put some of my talents and interests to work with the GNOME project. Marketing seemed a possible fit for me (I even studied it as a minor at school, and worked in sales for a time, as well as taking formal presentation science training), and so I am here to help! I have not stopped in yet on IRC but will do so when I can (I was speaking with Sri on Google+ and he suggested I do that!) Oh, you can find me on Google+ obviously as Brett Legree. Thanks, and hope to get started helping however I can. -Brett -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Hello - wish to contribute to GNOME Marketing
Thanks sri! I most definitely *will* be on IRC as soon as I have some quiet time - like I mentioned on Jayson's thread on Google+, with four kids focus is a necessity - which is one thing GNOME lets me do very well. Talk with you soon - Brett On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote: Welcome Brett! Glad you finally got around to posting on marketing-list. :-) Having more people is always helpful! Stop in on IRC and we can chat! sri On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Brett Legree brett.leg...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, Just a quick note to say hello - my name is Brett Legree, I am a nuclear and chemical engineer by trade, a technology enthusiast by passion, mostly in the area of UI/UX, and so this means that I work with and test as many different operating systems and interfaces as I can find. I like to write and speak in front of people (I do it for a living as part of my job) and I thought that I could put some of my talents and interests to work with the GNOME project. Marketing seemed a possible fit for me (I even studied it as a minor at school, and worked in sales for a time, as well as taking formal presentation science training), and so I am here to help! I have not stopped in yet on IRC but will do so when I can (I was speaking with Sri on Google+ and he suggested I do that!) Oh, you can find me on Google+ obviously as Brett Legree. Thanks, and hope to get started helping however I can. -Brett -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Hello - wish to contribute to GNOME Marketing
Thanks Jayson - I have a feeling this will be great. Question, if I may, about how many folks are part of the team? -Brett On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Jayson Rowe jayson.r...@gmail.com wrote: Welcome Brett! I'm actually just getting back into the swing of things myself. -- -jayson -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
