Re: Software Freedom Day
Bradley M. Kuhn bk...@ebb.org writes: On 08/30/2010 09:57 PM, Paul Cutler wrote: GNOME did a press release for Software Freedom Day (http://softwarefreedomday.org/) last year. This year it's Sept. 18th - do we have any plans to celebrate SFD? Anyone want to volunteer to organize the press release and participation? Stormy wrote: We could also put a banner up on gnome.org http://gnome.org and Planet GNOME just on Sept 18th. If anyone has time/inclination we could do a GNOME Software Freedom Day banner, if not Software Freedom Day has several we could choose from: http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/Artwork Brian Cameron wrote at 23:33 (EDT) on Friday: It might be nice to touch base with the FSF and see if there might be an interest in putting together a joint banner. With GNOME 3 around the corner, it might be a good time to highlight the upcoming desktop and highlight it as a cool new component of the GNU ecosystem. John Sullivan jo...@fsf.org (cc'd) is probably the right person at FSF to coordinate with on stuff like this. If not, he can surely direct you to the right person at FSF. My apologies for not reacting quickly enough on this; we ended up having our hands full trying to get our own action together for SFD. However, it would be great to coordinate on something for next year. Also, as a general point, if you ever think there are important GNOME announcements that we could be promoting, let us know at campai...@fsf.org, or me directly. We try to keep an eye out ourselves as well, but we would love to include anything like that in our Free Software Supporter monthly newsletter (about 32,000 subscribers right now). Other channels like blogs posts on fsf.org could be appropriate too. Thanks, -- John Sullivan Free Software Foundation Manager of Operations -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Software Freedom Day
Was there a public naming of traitors and enemies this year? I was hoping someone videotaped it this time around... On Sep 23, 2010, at 4:43 PM, John Sullivan wrote: Bradley M. Kuhn bk...@ebb.org writes: On 08/30/2010 09:57 PM, Paul Cutler wrote: GNOME did a press release for Software Freedom Day (http://softwarefreedomday.org/) last year. This year it's Sept. 18th - do we have any plans to celebrate SFD? Anyone want to volunteer to organize the press release and participation? Stormy wrote: We could also put a banner up on gnome.org http://gnome.org and Planet GNOME just on Sept 18th. If anyone has time/inclination we could do a GNOME Software Freedom Day banner, if not Software Freedom Day has several we could choose from: http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/Artwork Brian Cameron wrote at 23:33 (EDT) on Friday: It might be nice to touch base with the FSF and see if there might be an interest in putting together a joint banner. With GNOME 3 around the corner, it might be a good time to highlight the upcoming desktop and highlight it as a cool new component of the GNU ecosystem. John Sullivan jo...@fsf.org (cc'd) is probably the right person at FSF to coordinate with on stuff like this. If not, he can surely direct you to the right person at FSF. My apologies for not reacting quickly enough on this; we ended up having our hands full trying to get our own action together for SFD. However, it would be great to coordinate on something for next year. Also, as a general point, if you ever think there are important GNOME announcements that we could be promoting, let us know at campai...@fsf.org, or me directly. We try to keep an eye out ourselves as well, but we would love to include anything like that in our Free Software Supporter monthly newsletter (about 32,000 subscribers right now). Other channels like blogs posts on fsf.org could be appropriate too. Thanks, -- John Sullivan Free Software Foundation Manager of Operations -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Software Freedom Day
Zonker, ping? Is it enough? Software Freedom Day is this Saturday. Thanks, Stormy On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: Hi Zonker, Is it enough to say that GNOME developers around the world are participating in Software Freedom Day and list the activities we know about? I think Tomboy Online Alpha is launching right about then ... we could use that to explain we are expanding software freedom to hosted services. Paul? Stormy On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier j...@zonker.netwrote: On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Paul Cutler pcut...@gnome.org wrote: Anyone want to volunteer to organize the press release and participation? I'll happily write the release if we're doing anything. Best, Zonker -- Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier j...@zonker.net About: http://www.dissociatedpress.net/about/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Software Freedom Day
Hey Stormy, I think the online alpha is way more newsworthy than saying some GNOME developers are taking part in this larger thing. We can tie it into SFD by saying GNOME is looking ahead to the next generations of services for software freedom, and then mention the other. Best, Zonker On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: Zonker, ping? Is it enough? Software Freedom Day is this Saturday. Thanks, Stormy On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: Hi Zonker, Is it enough to say that GNOME developers around the world are participating in Software Freedom Day and list the activities we know about? I think Tomboy Online Alpha is launching right about then ... we could use that to explain we are expanding software freedom to hosted services. Paul? Stormy On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier j...@zonker.net wrote: On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Paul Cutler pcut...@gnome.org wrote: Anyone want to volunteer to organize the press release and participation? I'll happily write the release if we're doing anything. Best, Zonker -- Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier j...@zonker.net About: http://www.dissociatedpress.net/about/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier j...@zonker.net About: http://www.dissociatedpress.net/about/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Software Freedom Day
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier j...@zonker.netwrote: Hey Stormy, I think the online alpha is way more newsworthy than saying some GNOME developers are taking part in this larger thing. We can tie it into SFD by saying GNOME is looking ahead to the next generations of services for software freedom, and then mention the other. Sounds good to me. What do you need from me or the Tomboy Online team? Stormy Best, Zonker On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: Zonker, ping? Is it enough? Software Freedom Day is this Saturday. Thanks, Stormy On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: Hi Zonker, Is it enough to say that GNOME developers around the world are participating in Software Freedom Day and list the activities we know about? I think Tomboy Online Alpha is launching right about then ... we could use that to explain we are expanding software freedom to hosted services. Paul? Stormy On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier j...@zonker.net wrote: On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Paul Cutler pcut...@gnome.org wrote: Anyone want to volunteer to organize the press release and participation? I'll happily write the release if we're doing anything. Best, Zonker -- Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier j...@zonker.net About: http://www.dissociatedpress.net/about/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier j...@zonker.net About: http://www.dissociatedpress.net/about/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Software Freedom Day
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier j...@zonker.net wrote: Hey Stormy, I think the online alpha is way more newsworthy than saying some GNOME developers are taking part in this larger thing. We can tie it into SFD by saying GNOME is looking ahead to the next generations of services for software freedom, and then mention the other. Sounds good to me. What do you need from me or the Tomboy Online team? Just the relevant details for the launch, how to sign up, etc. Best, Z -- Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier j...@zonker.net About: http://www.dissociatedpress.net/about/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Software Freedom Day
How does this tie in to the Franklin Street Statement? It might be worthwhile to make some mention how we are supportive of the Franklin Street Statement as we launch a web service. It would tie in well with Software Freedom Day also if we could give some indication that we thought about it. I'm cc:ing Luis Villa since he has been involved with thinking about how we might say something pertinent. Brian On 09/13/10 02:34 PM, Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier wrote: On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Stormy Peterssto...@gnome.org wrote: On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeierj...@zonker.net wrote: Hey Stormy, I think the online alpha is way more newsworthy than saying some GNOME developers are taking part in this larger thing. We can tie it into SFD by saying GNOME is looking ahead to the next generations of services for software freedom, and then mention the other. Sounds good to me. What do you need from me or the Tomboy Online team? Just the relevant details for the launch, how to sign up, etc. Best, Z -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Fwd: Software Freedom Day
Hi Zonker, For the Tomboy Online alpha: 1. Alpha signups are starting today. The form to sign up is at https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dFZleG05V196b3g4VUFSTHhzcTRFMmc6MQ 2. The alpha is invite only and we will be reviewing the list over the next week or so. Tomboy Online will be available for alpha users sometime in the next week or two, we have a bug to fix first. 3. This is alpha quality software and we are not making any guarantees about data integrity nor do we have a privacy policy in place yet. More in the FAQ here: http://live.gnome.org/Snowy/FAQ 4. We don't know how long the alpha will last yet prior to launching the beta. Our goal is to launch the beta in 6 months with GNOME 3.0. 5. Tomboy Online is GNOME's first AGPL web service, and as you point out, a great tie-in for SFD. Let me know if you need any more information. Paul From: Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier j...@zonker.net Date: Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 1:34 PM Subject: Re: Software Freedom Day To: Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org Cc: Paul Cutler pcut...@gnome.org, marketing-list marketing-list@gnome.org On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier j...@zonker.net wrote: Hey Stormy, I think the online alpha is way more newsworthy than saying some GNOME developers are taking part in this larger thing. We can tie it into SFD by saying GNOME is looking ahead to the next generations of services for software freedom, and then mention the other. Sounds good to me. What do you need from me or the Tomboy Online team? Just the relevant details for the launch, how to sign up, etc. Best, Z -- Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier j...@zonker.net About: http://www.dissociatedpress.net/about/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Fwd: Software Freedom Day
Here's the Franklin Street statement: http://autonomo.us/2008/07/franklin-street-statement/ http://autonomo.us/2008/07/franklin-street-statement/ * Developers* of network service software are encouraged to: - Use the GNU Affero GPLhttp://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/agpl-3.0.html, a license designed specifically for network service software, to ensure that users of services have the ability to examine the source or implement their own service. - Develop freely-licensed alternatives to existing popular but non-Free network services. - Develop software that can replace centralized services and data storage with distributed software and data deployment, giving control back to users. *Service providers* are encouraged to: - Choose Free Software for their service. - Release customizations to their software under a Free Software license. - Make data and works of authorship available to their service’s users under legal terms and in formats that enable the users to move and use their data outside of the service. This means: - Users should control their private data. - Data available to all users of the service should be available under terms approved for Free Cultural Workshttp://freedomdefined.org/Licenses or Open Knowledge http://opendefinition.org/licenses. http://autonomo.us/2008/07/franklin-street-statement/I think Tomboy follows its principles pretty closely. Paul, can you comment? Stormy On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Paul Cutler pcut...@gnome.org wrote: Hi Zonker, For the Tomboy Online alpha: 1. Alpha signups are starting today. The form to sign up is at https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dFZleG05V196b3g4VUFSTHhzcTRFMmc6MQ 2. The alpha is invite only and we will be reviewing the list over the next week or so. Tomboy Online will be available for alpha users sometime in the next week or two, we have a bug to fix first. 3. This is alpha quality software and we are not making any guarantees about data integrity nor do we have a privacy policy in place yet. More in the FAQ here: http://live.gnome.org/Snowy/FAQ 4. We don't know how long the alpha will last yet prior to launching the beta. Our goal is to launch the beta in 6 months with GNOME 3.0. 5. Tomboy Online is GNOME's first AGPL web service, and as you point out, a great tie-in for SFD. Let me know if you need any more information. Paul From: Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier j...@zonker.net Date: Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 1:34 PM Subject: Re: Software Freedom Day To: Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org Cc: Paul Cutler pcut...@gnome.org, marketing-list marketing-list@gnome.org On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier j...@zonker.net wrote: Hey Stormy, I think the online alpha is way more newsworthy than saying some GNOME developers are taking part in this larger thing. We can tie it into SFD by saying GNOME is looking ahead to the next generations of services for software freedom, and then mention the other. Sounds good to me. What do you need from me or the Tomboy Online team? Just the relevant details for the launch, how to sign up, etc. Best, Z -- Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier j...@zonker.net About: http://www.dissociatedpress.net/about/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Fwd: Software Freedom Day
I think we adhere to the Franklin Street statement. Adding Sandy Armstrong, one of Snowy's lead developers to the CC. Comments below: On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 14:48 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote: Here's the Franklin Street statement: http://autonomo.us/2008/07/franklin-street-statement/ Developers of network service software are encouraged to: * Use the GNU Affero GPL, a license designed specifically for network service software, to ensure that users of services have the ability to examine the source or implement their own service. Check, we're using the AGPL. * Develop freely-licensed alternatives to existing popular but non-Free network services. I don't think Tomboy Online is being developed as an alternative to other services but possible. Maybe Evernote? I really haven't used competitive products. * Develop software that can replace centralized services and data storage with distributed software and data deployment, giving control back to users. Check. Users can install their own Snowy instance if they don't want to use Tomboy Online, which is GNOME's centralized service. Service providers are encouraged to: * Choose Free Software for their service. Check. * Release customizations to their software under a Free Software license. Check. We haven't set up a specific repository for Tomboy Online as we're using the Snowy repo on GNOME's git servers, but if we were to do that, we'd continue to use GNOME. * Make data and works of authorship available to their service’s users under legal terms and in formats that enable the users to move and use their data outside of the service. This means: * Users should control their private data. * Data available to all users of the service should be available under terms approved for Free Cultural Works or Open Knowledge. Yes and No. The user controls their private data - they are his or her notes. The user can set if they're public or not. However, the second bullet - just because a note is public doesn't mean that it's automatically under a CC license, for example. Maybe we can add a feature to add a copyright / copyleft assignment to notes similar to Flickr. I don't know - not sure if I'm reading this right or if it's applicable. Paul I think Tomboy follows its principles pretty closely. Paul, can you comment? Stormy On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Paul Cutler pcut...@gnome.org wrote: Hi Zonker, For the Tomboy Online alpha: 1. Alpha signups are starting today. The form to sign up is at https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dFZleG05V196b3g4VUFSTHhzcTRFMmc6MQ 2. The alpha is invite only and we will be reviewing the list over the next week or so. Tomboy Online will be available for alpha users sometime in the next week or two, we have a bug to fix first. 3. This is alpha quality software and we are not making any guarantees about data integrity nor do we have a privacy policy in place yet. More in the FAQ here: http://live.gnome.org/Snowy/FAQ 4. We don't know how long the alpha will last yet prior to launching the beta. Our goal is to launch the beta in 6 months with GNOME 3.0. 5. Tomboy Online is GNOME's first AGPL web service, and as you point out, a great tie-in for SFD. Let me know if you need any more information. Paul From: Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier j...@zonker.net Date: Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 1:34 PM Subject: Re: Software Freedom Day To: Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org Cc: Paul Cutler pcut...@gnome.org, marketing-list marketing-list@gnome.org On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier j...@zonker.net wrote: Hey Stormy, I think the online alpha is way more newsworthy than saying some GNOME developers are taking part in this larger thing. We can tie it into SFD by saying GNOME is looking ahead to the next generations of services for software freedom, and then mention the other. Sounds good to me. What do you need from me or the Tomboy Online team? Just the relevant details for the launch, how to sign up, etc. Best, Z -- Joe 'Zonker
Re: Fwd: Software Freedom Day
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Paul Cutler pcut...@gnome.org wrote: I think we adhere to the Franklin Street statement. Adding Sandy Armstrong, one of Snowy's lead developers to the CC. Comments below: Agree. On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 14:48 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote: * Develop software that can replace centralized services and data storage with distributed software and data deployment, giving control back to users. Check. Users can install their own Snowy instance if they don't want to use Tomboy Online, which is GNOME's centralized service. As Snowy isn't really a social networking site, and the main point is to put your existing local data on the web, decentralization is less applicable (compared to online services where your data is locked into their servers). * Make data and works of authorship available to their service’s users under legal terms and in formats that enable the users to move and use their data outside of the service. This means: * Users should control their private data. * Data available to all users of the service should be available under terms approved for Free Cultural Works or Open Knowledge. Yes and No. The user controls their private data - they are his or her notes. The user can set if they're public or not. However, the second bullet - just because a note is public doesn't mean that it's automatically under a CC license, for example. Maybe we can add a feature to add a copyright / copyleft assignment to notes similar to Flickr. I don't know - not sure if I'm reading this right or if it's applicable. Again, since we're not a social networking site, we don't have much data available to all users. Forcing users to license their public notes as CC probably wouldn't go over well, but giving the option is a good idea. We should file a bug for that. Sandy -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Fwd: Software Freedom Day
On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 14:44 -0700, Sandy Armstrong wrote: * Make data and works of authorship available to their service’s users under legal terms and in formats that enable the users to move and use their data outside of the service. This means: * Users should control their private data. * Data available to all users of the service should be available under terms approved for Free Cultural Works or Open Knowledge. Yes and No. The user controls their private data - they are his or her notes. The user can set if they're public or not. However, the second bullet - just because a note is public doesn't mean that it's automatically under a CC license, for example. Maybe we can add a feature to add a copyright / copyleft assignment to notes similar to Flickr. I don't know - not sure if I'm reading this right or if it's applicable. Again, since we're not a social networking site, we don't have much data available to all users. Forcing users to license their public notes as CC probably wouldn't go over well, but giving the option is a good idea. We should file a bug for that. Sandy Bug filed: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=629580 Paul -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Fwd: Software Freedom Day
On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 14:48 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote: * Develop software that can replace centralized services and data storage with distributed software and data deployment, giving control back to users. Check. Users can install their own Snowy instance if they don't want to use Tomboy Online, which is GNOME's centralized service. As Snowy isn't really a social networking site, and the main point is to put your existing local data on the web, decentralization is less applicable (compared to online services where your data is locked into their servers). Is it possible for users to export their data in some simple standard format (such as comma-separated-value) so that it can be easily exported into other programs (such as a spreadsheet program)? Brian -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Fwd: Software Freedom Day
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Brian Cameron brian.came...@oracle.com wrote: On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 14:48 -0600, Stormy Peters wrote: * Develop software that can replace centralized services and data storage with distributed software and data deployment, giving control back to users. Check. Users can install their own Snowy instance if they don't want to use Tomboy Online, which is GNOME's centralized service. As Snowy isn't really a social networking site, and the main point is to put your existing local data on the web, decentralization is less applicable (compared to online services where your data is locked into their servers). Is it possible for users to export their data in some simple standard format (such as comma-separated-value) so that it can be easily exported into other programs (such as a spreadsheet program)? The JSON standard of the REST API is documented. But honestly, as their data is originating on their local system, and until we implement editing it's inconceivable that they could use the service without having their notes on their local system, exporting is not a very realistic need for our users. It would not be any trouble to add a link in their preferences providing easy download of a JSON representation of all of their notes, if that would be the Right Thing to do. We have libraries in C#, Java, and C that know how to parse this for them. Sandy -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Software Freedom Day
We could also put a banner up on gnome.org and Planet GNOME just on Sept 18th. If anyone has time/inclination we could do a GNOME Software Freedom Day banner, if not Software Freedom Day has several we could choose from: http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/Artwork http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/ArtworkStormy On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Andreas Nilsson nisses.m...@home.se wrote: On 08/30/2010 09:57 PM, Paul Cutler wrote: GNOME did a press release for Software Freedom Day (http://softwarefreedomday.org/) last year. This year it's Sept. 18th - do we have any plans to celebrate SFD? Anyone want to volunteer to organize the press release and participation? I'm doing a talk about GNOME and the GNOME Foundation in Stockholm on the 18th. http://se.linux.org/grupper/info/linuxtraff-2010/linuxtraff-2010 (in Swedish) - Andreas -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Software Freedom Day
Hi Zonker, Is it enough to say that GNOME developers around the world are participating in Software Freedom Day and list the activities we know about? I think Tomboy Online Alpha is launching right about then ... we could use that to explain we are expanding software freedom to hosted services. Paul? Stormy On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier j...@zonker.netwrote: On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Paul Cutler pcut...@gnome.org wrote: Anyone want to volunteer to organize the press release and participation? I'll happily write the release if we're doing anything. Best, Zonker -- Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier j...@zonker.net About: http://www.dissociatedpress.net/about/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Software Freedom Day
On 08/30/2010 09:57 PM, Paul Cutler wrote: GNOME did a press release for Software Freedom Day (http://softwarefreedomday.org/) last year. This year it's Sept. 18th - do we have any plans to celebrate SFD? Anyone want to volunteer to organize the press release and participation? I'm doing a talk about GNOME and the GNOME Foundation in Stockholm on the 18th. http://se.linux.org/grupper/info/linuxtraff-2010/linuxtraff-2010 (in Swedish) - Andreas -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Software Freedom Day
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Paul Cutler pcut...@gnome.org wrote: Anyone want to volunteer to organize the press release and participation? I'll happily write the release if we're doing anything. Best, Zonker -- Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier j...@zonker.net About: http://www.dissociatedpress.net/about/ -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Software Freedom Day
Em Seg, 2010-08-30 às 14:57 -0500, Paul Cutler escreveu: GNOME did a press release for Software Freedom Day (http://softwarefreedomday.org/) last year. This year it's Sept. 18th - do we have any plans to celebrate SFD? Anyone want to volunteer to organize the press release and participation? Paul We will have here in my city the SFD. What would be a good talk? Just talk about GNOME as I always do? Thanks, -- Jonh Wendell http://www.bani.com.br -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Software Freedom Day
The Beijing GNOME Users Group is planning to organize SFD in one univeristy in Beijing. We have some local compamy's sponsorship. We are going to talk about below topics to students: 1. What is GNOME 2. Google Summer of Code Students' experience 3. What you can do in GNOME and Join Beijing GNOME Users Group -Emily 2010/8/31 Jonh Wendell jwend...@gnome.org Em Seg, 2010-08-30 às 14:57 -0500, Paul Cutler escreveu: GNOME did a press release for Software Freedom Day (http://softwarefreedomday.org/) last year. This year it's Sept. 18th - do we have any plans to celebrate SFD? Anyone want to volunteer to organize the press release and participation? Paul We will have here in my city the SFD. What would be a good talk? Just talk about GNOME as I always do? Thanks, -- Jonh Wendell http://www.bani.com.br -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Software Freedom Day
GNOME did a press release for Software Freedom Day (http://softwarefreedomday.org/) last year. This year it's Sept. 18th - do we have any plans to celebrate SFD? Anyone want to volunteer to organize the press release and participation? Paul -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Software Freedom Day Press Release
Here's the final copy. Can someone post in on the website under Latest News? You can use the first paragraph on the front page. Thanks, Stormy GNOME promotes Software Freedom Day September 19, 2009 The GNOME Community is a excited to promote and participate in Software Freedom Day. Around the world, GNOME community members will be celebrating software freedom and the work that GNOME has done to make a free desktop accessible for all. Software Freedom is about a technology future that we can trust, that is sustainable, and that supports the basic human freedoms. Untrusted electoral systems can lead to civil unrest and a lack of trust in governing bodies. Proprietary data formats can mean lockout to accessing our own information! Software Freedom can be maintained by transparent systems (such as Free and Open Source Software) that are based on open, secure and sustainable standards including data formats and communication protocols. In addition, software freedom is about making sure that software can be used by all humanity regardless of the language they speak, the amount of money they have or their physical abilities. And this is where GNOME excels. To provide free software to everyone, GNOME is: Free. GNOME is Free Software and part of the GNU project, dedicated to giving users and developers the ultimate level of control over their desktops, their software, and their data. Find out more about the GNU project and Free Software at gnu.org. Usable. GNOME understands that usability is about creating software that is easy for everyone to use. GNOME's community of professional and volunteer usability experts have created Free Software's first and only Human Interface Guidelines, and all core GNOME software is adopting these principles. Find out more about GNOME and usability at the GNOME Usability Project. Accessible Free Software is about enabling software freedom for everyone, including users and developers with disabilities. GNOME's Accessibility framework is the result of several years of effort, and makes GNOME the most accessible desktop for any Unix platform. Find out more at the GNOME Accessibility Project. http://projects.gnome.org/accessibility/ International GNOME is used, developed and documented in dozens of languages, and we strive to ensure that every piece of GNOME software can be translated into all languages. During the last GNOME Development cycle, the GNOME Desktop was translated into over 40 languages! Developer-friendly Developers are not tied to a single language with GNOME. You can use C, C++, Python, Perl, Java, and C#, to produce high-quality applications that integrate smoothly into the rest of your UNIX or GNU/Linux (commonly referred to as Linux) desktop. Organized GNOME strives to be an organized community, with a foundation of several hundred members, usability, accessibility, and QA teams, and an elected board. GNOME releases are defined by the GNOME Release Team every six months. Supported Beyond the worldwide GNOME Community, GNOME is supported by the leading companies using GNU/Linux and UNIX and many free software projects, including Access, Canonical, Debian, Free Software Foundation, HP, Google, IBM, Igalia, Intel, Motorola, Mozilla Foundation, Nokia, Novell, OLPC, Red Hat, Software Freedom Law Center, Sugar Labs and Sun Microsystems. GNOME is proud to be the default Desktop Environment that powers popular distributions including Ubuntu, Fedora and OpenSolaris. A community Perhaps more than anything else, GNOME is a worldwide community of volunteers who hack, translate, design, QA, and generally have fun together. Please join the GNOME community in celebrating the achievements the free software world has made. On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: Let's just drop the openSUSE part. That'll give us a nice round 3. Fedora, Ubuntu and OpenSolaris. Stormy On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Alex Hudson h...@alexhudson.com wrote: On 18/09/09 17:22, Lucas Rocha wrote: Can we say it is the default desktop environment in openSUSE? Not sure. AIUI, Enterprise editions of SUSE default to it (at the moment). OpenSUSE itself actually defaults to KDE, albeit only by pre-selecting an option for the user to choose between. Cheers Alex. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
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On 09/19/2009 11:44 AM, Stormy Peters wrote: Here's the final copy. Can someone post in on the website under Latest News? You can use the first paragraph on the front page. Thanks, Done. - Andreas -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
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I incorporated Paul's feedback and I'm cc'ing the marketing team so we can get some more feedback as this needs to go out tomorrow. (FYI, I won't be online this afternoon so please don't wait for me if you have good feedback or ideas.) We are looking for input and feedback on a GNOME press release to support Software Freedom Day. Once we get feedback and do some more edits, can someone on this list post this to the website tomorrow? Thanks, Stormy GNOME promotes Software Freedom Day September 19, 2009 The GNOME Community is a excited to promote and participate in Software Freedom Day. Around the world, GNOME community members will be celebrating software freedom and the work that GNOME has done to make a free desktop accessible for all. Software Freedom is about a technology future that we can trust, that is sustainable, and that supports the basic human freedoms. Untrusted electoral systems can lead to civil unrest and a lack of trust in governing bodies. Proprietary data formats can mean lockout to accessing our own information! Software Freedom can be maintained by transparent systems (such as Free and Open Source Software) that are based on open, secure and sustainable standards including data formats and communication protocols. In addition, software freedom is about making sure that software can be used by all humanity regardless of the language they speak, the amount of money they have or their physical abilities. And this is where GNOME excels. To provide free software to everyone, GNOME is: Free. GNOME is Free Software and part of the GNU project, dedicated to giving users and developers the ultimate level of control over their desktops, their software, and their data. Find out more about the GNU project and Free Software at gnu.org. Usable. GNOME understands that usability is about creating software that is easy for everyone to use. GNOME's community of professional and volunteer usability experts have created Free Software's first and only Human Interface Guidelines, and all core GNOME software is adopting these principles. Find out more about GNOME and usability at the GNOME Usability Project. Accessible Free Software is about enabling software freedom for everyone, including users and developers with disabilities. GNOME's Accessibility framework is the result of several years of effort, and makes GNOME the most accessible desktop for any Unix platform. Find out more at the GNOME Accessibility Project. http://projects.gnome.org/accessibility/ International GNOME is used, developed and documented in dozens of languages, and we strive to ensure that every piece of GNOME software can be translated into all languages. During the last GNOME Development cycle, the GNOME Desktop was translated into over 40 languages! Developer-friendly Developers are not tied to a single language with GNOME. You can use C, C++, Python, Perl, Java, and C#, to produce high-quality applications that integrate smoothly into the rest of your Unix or GNU/Linux (commonly referred to as Linux) desktop. Organized GNOME strives to be an organized community, with a foundation of several hundred members, usability, accessibility, and QA teams, and an elected board. GNOME releases are defined by the GNOME Release Team every six months. Supported Beyond the worldwide GNOME Community, GNOME is supported by the leading companies in GNU/Linux and Unix and many free software projects, including Access, Canonical, Debian, Free Software Foundation, HP, Google, IBM, Igalia, Intel, Motorola, Mozilla Foundation, Nokia, Novell, OLPC, Red Hat, Software Freedom Law Center, Sugar Labs and Sun. GNOME is proud to be the default Desktop Environment that powers popular distributions including Ubuntu, Fedora, OpenSUSE and OpenSolaris. A community Perhaps more than anything else, GNOME is a worldwide community of volunteers who hack, translate, design, QA, and generally have fun together. Please join the GNOME community in celebrating the achievements the free software world has made. GNOME people will be celebrating Software Freedom Day at: [Need more links!] http://www.andreasn.se/blog/?p=104 http://blog.tomeuvizoso.net/2009/09/free-education-as-in-free-speech.html On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Paul Cutler pcut...@gnome.org wrote: Comments in-line (I couldn't figure out the best way to edit this, I need more coffee this morning). Stormy - this looks great, thanks for doing this, especially at the last minute. The reason this has been on my radar was a blog post I read a year ago that took us to task for not doing something like this. Paul On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org wrote: On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Paul Cutler pcut...@gnome.org wrote: * Press Release for Software Freedom Day (We didn't do this last year, and it's probably a good opportunity to highlight GNOME's role in free software as a desktop, including translations, accessibility, etc) Here's
Re: Software Freedom Day Press Release
Hey, 2009/9/18 Stormy Peters sto...@gnome.org: I incorporated Paul's feedback and I'm cc'ing the marketing team so we can get some more feedback as this needs to go out tomorrow. (FYI, I won't be online this afternoon so please don't wait for me if you have good feedback or ideas.) We are looking for input and feedback on a GNOME press release to support Software Freedom Day. Once we get feedback and do some more edits, can someone on this list post this to the website tomorrow? Thanks, Stormy Supported Beyond the worldwide GNOME Community, GNOME is supported by the leading companies in GNU/Linux and Unix and many free software projects, including Access, Canonical, Debian, Free Software Foundation, HP, Google, IBM, Igalia, Intel, Motorola, Mozilla Foundation, Nokia, Novell, OLPC, Red Hat, Software Freedom Law Center, Sugar Labs and Sun. GNOME is proud to be the default Desktop Environment that powers popular distributions including Ubuntu, Fedora, OpenSUSE and OpenSolaris. Can we say it is the default desktop environment in openSUSE? Not sure. Looks nice! --lucasr -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
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On 18/09/09 17:22, Lucas Rocha wrote: Can we say it is the default desktop environment in openSUSE? Not sure. AIUI, Enterprise editions of SUSE default to it (at the moment). OpenSUSE itself actually defaults to KDE, albeit only by pre-selecting an option for the user to choose between. Cheers Alex. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
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Let's just drop the openSUSE part. That'll give us a nice round 3. Fedora, Ubuntu and OpenSolaris. Stormy On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Alex Hudson h...@alexhudson.com wrote: On 18/09/09 17:22, Lucas Rocha wrote: Can we say it is the default desktop environment in openSUSE? Not sure. AIUI, Enterprise editions of SUSE default to it (at the moment). OpenSUSE itself actually defaults to KDE, albeit only by pre-selecting an option for the user to choose between. Cheers Alex. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: gnome.org (WAS: Re: Software Freedom Day)
Hylke Bons just offered to help with this over on the gnome-web-list. I think it makes sense for this conversation to happen over there with review on the marketing list. http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-web-list/2008-September/msg00025.html Stormy On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Stormy Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also meant the content - what is on each page, where it is, what it looks like, what it links to, etc. Stormy On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Diego Escalante Urrelo [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On 9/24/08, Stormy Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of content on gnome.org ... I heard that there were people working on it but I'm not clear what's being worked on. I saw the new image (and liked it) but I think we could also use a site review. Is anything like that going on? If not, I will kick it off ... If you mean the website infra running behind www.gnome.org, I understand that the proposed migration to use Plone (a CMS made with Python) was delayed because the main 'tech' guy doing it had time constraints. Is Quim still the contact person for this? I lost track of it long time ago... in any case, it would be a good time to finish that topic once and for all, editing HTML and an automake source is not precisely practical. Anyone? -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
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Thilo: I 100% agree with you. My suggestion that we have default text for particular days wasn't supposed to suggest we not do something more special for any given event. It just seems a way we could ensure that we don't neglect to do *something* if we otherwise forget or don't have time/resources to do more. Brian Couldn't we just set up the website so that on particular calendar days, it automatically has some nice default information to display? I guess we could. Just want to add that displaying a date is one thing and promoting an event or doing something is another thing. What can GNOME do? I would recommend issuing a news item talking about the software freedom day and maybe also collecting what will be going on. If GNOME related stuff goes on there could also be the chance to add some photos and links. Also GNOME could do something on this day, too like addressing the GNOME users and the people organizing those SFD events or doing an event of its own. I think if one follows the spirit of the SFD many things could be done. Also GNOMES regional groups could become active - I am sure there were already many GNOMErs involved - just that it was not mentioned. The SFD is not a centralised event but a distributed - so part of the idea to let people get creative and for GNOME itself helping them to do so. GNOME could also organize a bug squashing day or something like that. Or a rally for donations for the project, etc etc. Most hackers love technical solutions. Those can be helpful - but too often hackers also think that those solution will solve non-technical problems. So the calendar will be an improvement for sure. But I would hope that this wont be the end of the road. Regards, Thilo -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: gnome.org (WAS: Re: Software Freedom Day)
On 9/26/08, Stormy Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hylke Bons just offered to help with this over on the gnome-web-list. I think it makes sense for this conversation to happen over there with review on the marketing list. http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-web-list/2008-September/msg00025.html Before I forget, check this link with mockups of wgo by Mairin Duffy, she made them like 2 years ago, but I like them a lot: http://mihmo.livejournal.com/34329.html Please forward it to the web list, right now I'm in a hurry to go look for my suscription options and etc, just didn't want to forget about sending the link :) -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
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Thilo: Couldn't we just set up the website so that on particular calendar days, it automatically has some nice default information to display? Then we wouldn't have to worry about forgetting such important days like Software Freedom Day. It would be best if we could replace or augment the default text with additional information if we want for a particular date. Such a calendar on the main GNOME website could also highlight upcoming events or other activities that are useful to promote. Just to expand and agree with your idea. Brian Dave Neary schrieb: 1. A set of ideas on low-pmaintenance stuff we can do for this type of thing 2. A list of people with the skills to do these things 3. someone/a small group to be aware of upcoming things, and co-ordinate volunteers This sounds like a good task for marketing crew. We could make a list on a wiki page where people can add events, too. The somebody could send a list of upcoming events to some lists like marketing and the foundation board some weeks before an event so there would be enough time to veto and/or prepair things. As I am writing this, I read the renewed http://live.gnome.org/UserGroups page. So you already have a calendar. Do you think adding more general events would be finde. As I think GNOME user groups is maybe the right slot for those events - then spreading to the general GNOME page. This list should contain worldwide events that GNOME supports wholeheartedly and likes its users to know about or maybe use as a local action. This would/could be: * Software Freedom Day * Stop Software Patents world Day (which is today) * Document Freedom Day (promotes open document standards, which is what GNOME also supports I guess) * Anniversaries of GNOME, GNU, Linux kernel, X11, ... * New GNOME releases, thats already happening. Maybe we could add a countdown like Only XX days till the release of GNOME 2.24 ? * I would also consider releases of distros to be mentioned as this means that GNOME users get a new GNOME (much more than the release of a new GNOME does). So one could announce like: A new Ubuntu is out. With that Ubuntu users get the new GNOME 2.24, same for Fedora and others. BTW - maybe we could have a simple solution for www.gnome.org also that includes a kind calendar . If wgo would have a space for something like announcement banners and one could plan what is in that banner - one could work very early on what will appear. Those banners could also like to live.gnome.org/DocumentFreedomDay which again could explain what that is and how GNOME users can get involved. Another thing that strikes me on WGO: I do not see any link to an Events page. But there are still two links to Support page. I could create this page - everybody could review - and I also could send a list of events to this list. Those could be discussed here also and maybe adding those to the calendar would also be a nice idea. For local events I would suggest that the national GNOME organizations do such stuff - so like Linuxtag in Germany is something the german team should work on. regards, Thilo -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
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Brian Cameron schrieb: Couldn't we just set up the website so that on particular calendar days, it automatically has some nice default information to display? I guess we could. Just want to add that displaying a date is one thing and promoting an event or doing something is another thing. What can GNOME do? I would recommend issuing a news item talking about the software freedom day and maybe also collecting what will be going on. If GNOME related stuff goes on there could also be the chance to add some photos and links. Also GNOME could do something on this day, too like addressing the GNOME users and the people organizing those SFD events or doing an event of its own. I think if one follows the spirit of the SFD many things could be done. Also GNOMES regional groups could become active - I am sure there were already many GNOMErs involved - just that it was not mentioned. The SFD is not a centralised event but a distributed - so part of the idea to let people get creative and for GNOME itself helping them to do so. GNOME could also organize a bug squashing day or something like that. Or a rally for donations for the project, etc etc. Most hackers love technical solutions. Those can be helpful - but too often hackers also think that those solution will solve non-technical problems. So the calendar will be an improvement for sure. But I would hope that this wont be the end of the road. Regards, Thilo -- Thilo Pfennig - PfennigSolutions IT-Beratung- Wiki-Systeme Sandkrug 28 - 24143 Kiel (Germany) http://www.pfennigsolutions.de/ XING: https://www.xing.com/profile/Thilo_Pfennig - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/tpfennig -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
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Dave Neary schrieb: 1. A set of ideas on low-pmaintenance stuff we can do for this type of thing 2. A list of people with the skills to do these things 3. someone/a small group to be aware of upcoming things, and co-ordinate volunteers This sounds like a good task for marketing crew. We could make a list on a wiki page where people can add events, too. The somebody could send a list of upcoming events to some lists like marketing and the foundation board some weeks before an event so there would be enough time to veto and/or prepair things. As I am writing this, I read the renewed http://live.gnome.org/UserGroups page. So you already have a calendar. Do you think adding more general events would be finde. As I think GNOME user groups is maybe the right slot for those events - then spreading to the general GNOME page. This list should contain worldwide events that GNOME supports wholeheartedly and likes its users to know about or maybe use as a local action. This would/could be: * Software Freedom Day * Stop Software Patents world Day (which is today) * Document Freedom Day (promotes open document standards, which is what GNOME also supports I guess) * Anniversaries of GNOME, GNU, Linux kernel, X11, ... * New GNOME releases, thats already happening. Maybe we could add a countdown like Only XX days till the release of GNOME 2.24 ? * I would also consider releases of distros to be mentioned as this means that GNOME users get a new GNOME (much more than the release of a new GNOME does). So one could announce like: A new Ubuntu is out. With that Ubuntu users get the new GNOME 2.24, same for Fedora and others. BTW - maybe we could have a simple solution for www.gnome.org also that includes a kind calendar . If wgo would have a space for something like announcement banners and one could plan what is in that banner - one could work very early on what will appear. Those banners could also like to live.gnome.org/DocumentFreedomDay which again could explain what that is and how GNOME users can get involved. Another thing that strikes me on WGO: I do not see any link to an Events page. But there are still two links to Support page. I could create this page - everybody could review - and I also could send a list of events to this list. Those could be discussed here also and maybe adding those to the calendar would also be a nice idea. For local events I would suggest that the national GNOME organizations do such stuff - so like Linuxtag in Germany is something the german team should work on. regards, Thilo -- Thilo Pfennig - PfennigSolutions IT-Beratung- Wiki-Systeme Sandkrug 28 - 24143 Kiel (Germany) http://www.pfennigsolutions.de/ XING: https://www.xing.com/profile/Thilo_Pfennig - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/tpfennig -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Community calendar (was: Re: Software Freedom Day)
Hi, Thilo Pfennig wrote: This sounds like a good task for marketing crew. We could make a list on a wiki page where people can add events, too. The somebody could send a list of upcoming events to some lists like marketing and the foundation board some weeks before an event so there would be enough time to veto and/or prepair things. This is another opportunity for me to pimp the GNOME community calendar I've been maintaining for at least 18 months ;) http://www.google.com/calendar/ical/mdnrfqhbsjn37b6sgad089qmak%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics There are currently 15 or so people who can add events to the calendar and I will add anyone who asks (on condition that I know them at least by name - I don't want it to grow spam). The list currently includes: Dave Neary Anne Oestergaard Glynn Foster Jeff Waugh Quim Gil Rosanna Yuen Behdad Esfahbod Vincent Untz Kevin Harriss Patrick Wagstrom Sriram Ramkrishna Eitan Isaacson Jonh Wendell Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay I'd be happy to add yourself and Claus to that list, as well as people from other GNOME user groups worldwide. Do you think adding more general events would be finde. I have been adding the following types of events: * Events organised or collaborating with the GNOME Foundation * Events where GNOME community members are giving presentations * Events where GNOME user groups are managing stands * Events of general interest to the GNOME community This list should contain worldwide events that GNOME supports wholeheartedly and likes its users to know about or maybe use as a local action. This would/could be: * Software Freedom Day * Stop Software Patents world Day (which is today) * Document Freedom Day (promotes open document standards, which is what GNOME also supports I guess) * Anniversaries of GNOME, GNU, Linux kernel, X11, ... * New GNOME releases, thats already happening. Maybe we could add a countdown like Only XX days till the release of GNOME 2.24 ? * I would also consider releases of distros to be mentioned as this means that GNOME users get a new GNOME (much more than the release of a new GNOME does). So one could announce like: A new Ubuntu is out. With that Ubuntu users get the new GNOME 2.24, same for Fedora and others. I'm happy to share the burden. Of these, I hadn't heard of software patents day or document freedom day, I hadn't been following software freedom day closely, the anniversaries seem a little contrived if I may say so, but why not; new GNOME releases should have already been there (it seems I forgot to add them for 2.23.*, sorry for the oversight), and if we can know release dates of distros shipping GNOME in advance, why not? I see the calendar as a forward-looking tool, rather than a historical document, so I'd be against wasting time adding past events to the calendar. BTW - maybe we could have a simple solution for www.gnome.org also that includes a kind calendar . If wgo would have a space for something like announcement banners and one could plan what is in that banner - one could work very early on what will appear. Those banners could also like to live.gnome.org/DocumentFreedomDay which again could explain what that is and how GNOME users can get involved. It is possible to generate an agenda from a Google calendar, and generate an RSS feed from that. The best I have been able to find, unfortunately, is the XML version of the feed, which sorts entries (undesirably) by the date they're added to the calendar, rather than by the start date of the events. http://www.google.com/calendar/feeds/mdnrfqhbsjn37b6sgad089qmak%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic I could create this page - everybody could review - and I also could send a list of events to this list. Those could be discussed here also and maybe adding those to the calendar would also be a nice idea. For local events I would suggest that the national GNOME organizations do such stuff - so like Linuxtag in Germany is something the german team should work on. It'd be nice to have a live updated feed in the sidebar that included all events, ordered by start date, whose end date is on or after today. No idea how that might be done, just wanted to throw that out there :) Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +33 9 51 13 46 45 Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13 -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
gnome.org (WAS: Re: Software Freedom Day)
Speaking of content on gnome.org ... I heard that there were people working on it but I'm not clear what's being worked on. I saw the new image (and liked it) but I think we could also use a site review. Is anything like that going on? If not, I will kick it off ... Stormy On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 12:48 AM, Thilo Pfennig [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Dave Neary schrieb: 1. A set of ideas on low-pmaintenance stuff we can do for this type of thing 2. A list of people with the skills to do these things 3. someone/a small group to be aware of upcoming things, and co-ordinate volunteers This sounds like a good task for marketing crew. We could make a list on a wiki page where people can add events, too. The somebody could send a list of upcoming events to some lists like marketing and the foundation board some weeks before an event so there would be enough time to veto and/or prepair things. As I am writing this, I read the renewed http://live.gnome.org/UserGroups page. So you already have a calendar. Do you think adding more general events would be finde. As I think GNOME user groups is maybe the right slot for those events - then spreading to the general GNOME page. This list should contain worldwide events that GNOME supports wholeheartedly and likes its users to know about or maybe use as a local action. This would/could be: * Software Freedom Day * Stop Software Patents world Day (which is today) * Document Freedom Day (promotes open document standards, which is what GNOME also supports I guess) * Anniversaries of GNOME, GNU, Linux kernel, X11, ... * New GNOME releases, thats already happening. Maybe we could add a countdown like Only XX days till the release of GNOME 2.24 ? * I would also consider releases of distros to be mentioned as this means that GNOME users get a new GNOME (much more than the release of a new GNOME does). So one could announce like: A new Ubuntu is out. With that Ubuntu users get the new GNOME 2.24, same for Fedora and others. BTW - maybe we could have a simple solution for www.gnome.org also that includes a kind calendar . If wgo would have a space for something like announcement banners and one could plan what is in that banner - one could work very early on what will appear. Those banners could also like to live.gnome.org/DocumentFreedomDay which again could explain what that is and how GNOME users can get involved. Another thing that strikes me on WGO: I do not see any link to an Events page. But there are still two links to Support page. I could create this page - everybody could review - and I also could send a list of events to this list. Those could be discussed here also and maybe adding those to the calendar would also be a nice idea. For local events I would suggest that the national GNOME organizations do such stuff - so like Linuxtag in Germany is something the german team should work on. regards, Thilo -- Thilo Pfennig - PfennigSolutions IT-Beratung- Wiki-Systeme Sandkrug 28 - 24143 Kiel (Germany) http://www.pfennigsolutions.de/ XING: https://www.xing.com/profile/Thilo_Pfennig - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/tpfennig -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Software Freedom Day
Hi, Thilo Pfennig wrote: just like to say that i think that its sad that THE free Linux desktop (GNOME) did not participate on the SFD nor did it mention it on www.gnome.org, neither the 25 years of GNU software. I think GNOME cant just ignore the biggest free software event in the world and also 25 years of GNU software! And dont tell me nobody knew Agreed - but a token blog isn't much better than doing nothing. I did send a call for participation last year, which didn't get any response, and as usual, my time is limited (in fact, last week I wasn't even aware that SFD had arrived until I saw the blogs about it the day after, since I was travelling). What we need is: 1. A set of ideas on low-pmaintenance stuff we can do for this type of thing 2. A list of people with the skills to do these things 3. someone/a small group to be aware of upcoming things, and co-ordinate volunteers For splash screens, recently, it's been go ask Andreas, before that it was Go ask Tigert, it'd be nice to have more than one person we could depend on for things like that. Somewhere between 1 and infinity (where infinity would be launching a splash screen contest every release). Similar for screencasts (a nice page on using free software to make high quality screencasts with soundtracks would be great). Similar for copy-writing. Similar for press releases. And probably other things too. Unfortunately, right now I'm in it'll have to be somebody else mode - I cannot add this to my todo list right now. Anyone else? Thilo? Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Software Freedom Day
Andreas Nilsson schrieb: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2008-August/msg00025.html Crap, I totally missed that. I'm terribly, terribly sorry. I guess it's a bit late to put something up now. Should we try again next year? (and be better prepared hopefully.) Again, sorry that I missed this. No problem. I see it this way: public has a small attention span when it comes - and so its important to pull on the same rope sometimes. The 25 years of GNU is not really too late: http://www.gnu.org/ Maybe you can put something up there like for http://www.gnu.org/fry/ ? 25 years of GNU deserve a word ;) I would even say somebody from GNOME foundation could say something that makes this clear Regards, Thilo -- Thilo Pfennig - PfennigSolutions IT-Beratung- Wiki-Systeme Sandkrug 28 - 24143 Kiel (Germany) http://www.pfennigsolutions.de/ XING: https://www.xing.com/profile/Thilo_Pfennig - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/tpfennig -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Software Freedom Day
Andreas Nilsson schrieb: I can put a banner or something up on the website pretty much right away if you want to. I dont have a say. Too bad you didn't mention it on the mailing list a bit earlier though. I actually did: Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/29/98 Regards, Thilo -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Software Freedom Day
Thilo Pfennig wrote: Andreas Nilsson schrieb: I can put a banner or something up on the website pretty much right away if you want to. I dont have a say. I'm not sure who does have a say actually. I just put things there, and noone have beaten me up yet. :) Too bad you didn't mention it on the mailing list a bit earlier though. I actually did: Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/29/98 http://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2008-August/msg00025.html Crap, I totally missed that. I'm terribly, terribly sorry. I guess it's a bit late to put something up now. Should we try again next year? (and be better prepared hopefully.) Again, sorry that I missed this. - Andreas -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Software Freedom Day
Hi; Why don't we have a marketing agenda somewhere on the wiki? I know we have some cluttered places on live.gnome.org where mentions upcoming organizations etc. but they are mostly community centric and not updated regularly. An official list of events that marketing people should focus on would be nice thing to have. With something on live missing such events can be prevented, besides people can suggest events for this agenda/calendar. Regards, Baris Cicek On Sat, 2008-09-20 at 19:09 +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote: Thilo Pfennig wrote: Andreas Nilsson schrieb: I can put a banner or something up on the website pretty much right away if you want to. I dont have a say. I'm not sure who does have a say actually. I just put things there, and noone have beaten me up yet. :) Too bad you didn't mention it on the mailing list a bit earlier though. I actually did: Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/29/98 http://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2008-August/msg00025.html Crap, I totally missed that. I'm terribly, terribly sorry. I guess it's a bit late to put something up now. Should we try again next year? (and be better prepared hopefully.) Again, sorry that I missed this. - Andreas -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Software Freedom Day is Sept. 20th 2008
Hi, just want to mention this and also suggest that GNOME will support this in some way. Maybe just a news posting and a link to http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/ - or maybe more. This is a bit late for larger planning but this is a yearly opportunity. And if not GNOME think about doing something in your home town. Regards, Thilo -- Thilo Pfennig - PfennigSolutions IT-Beratung- Wiki-Systeme Sandkrug 28 - 24143 Kiel (Germany) http://www.pfennigsolutions.de/ XING: https://www.xing.com/profile/Thilo_Pfennig - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/tpfennig -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Software freedom day
Hi, We're a little late on the get-go, but I think we should do something for Software Freedom Day - http://softwarefreedomday.org/ - September 10th this year. FWIW, some Dutch and Belgian GNOME volunteers will be present at a local SFD event in Tilburg, The Netherlands. As a side note, we are planning to have our own localized Live CD's and promotional materials printed, but we're having trouble funding it all. Is there some place we might ask for assistance? regards, -- Reinout van Schouwen *** student of Artifical Intelligence email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]*** mobile phone: +31-6-44360778 www.vanschouwen.info *** help mee met GNOME vertalen: nl.gnome.org -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Software freedom day
Hi, We're a little late on the get-go, but I think we should do something for Software Freedom Day - http://softwarefreedomday.org/ - September 10th this year. Perhaps GNOME user groups could hold an event for the day? Even if it's only a small demo in a local university? The OpenCD (which ships a GNOME desktop via Ubuntu, and lots of GNOME/GTK+ applications for Windows) is involved, as are Canonical. There is the possibility to receive LiveCDs and some advertising materials for free http://softwarefreedomday.org/index.php?option=com_mosformsmosform=2Itemid=62 The deadline's passed now, but you never know - if you're close enough to a distribution center you may still be able to get some stuff. If you're a young Go-Getter, we now have a range of GNOME posters available for printing, and on September 10th, you should be able to burn off some hot-off-the-presses GNOME 2.12 LiveCDs. Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Software freedom day
quote who=Dave Neary We're a little late on the get-go, but I think we should do something for Software Freedom Day - http://softwarefreedomday.org/ - September 10th this year. Don't know why it didn't occur to me to pimp this to GNOME, we've been doing lots of stuff about it in Australia and Ubuntu-land. Andreas, got any thoughts on an SFD-inspired image for gnome.org? (I just got a sudden flash of New GNOME. New World Order. but I don't think that's very SFD compatible.) - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2006: Dunedin, New Zealand http://linux.conf.au/ The Motif interface, with chunkier controls, felt more like a ghetto blaster. - Liam Quin -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Software freedom day
In Manila (Philippines), the local Ubuntu Local Community team will be part of the celebration. I will be with the Ubuntu team, but instead will be pimping GNOME and give out some GNOME Live CDs. Don't know why it didn't occur to me to pimp this to GNOME, we've been doing lots of stuff about it in Australia and Ubuntu-land. -- Cheers! Jerome G. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Software freedom day
Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Dave Neary We're a little late on the get-go, but I think we should do something for Software Freedom Day - http://softwarefreedomday.org/ - September 10th this year. Don't know why it didn't occur to me to pimp this to GNOME, we've been doing lots of stuff about it in Australia and Ubuntu-land. Andreas, got any thoughts on an SFD-inspired image for gnome.org? (I just got a sudden flash of New GNOME. New World Order. but I don't think that's very SFD compatible.) - Jeff I think a poster with pushing the importance of freedom within GNOME would be nice. That's the reason GNOME is here to begin with. Freedom, that's why we're here I'll see if I can come up with a nice picture aswell, perhaps a siloette of a bird or something. - Andreas -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Software freedom day
Hi, Jeff Waugh a écrit : Don't know why it didn't occur to me to pimp this to GNOME, we've been doing lots of stuff about it in Australia and Ubuntu-land. I just noticed :) Andreas, got any thoughts on an SFD-inspired image for gnome.org? (I just got a sudden flash of New GNOME. New World Order. but I don't think that's very SFD compatible.) http://www.cafepress.com/sfdstore has soem t-shirt designs which appear re-usable. I like the Got freedom? tagline with the mountains. Just another data point for people doing stuff for the day. Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Software freedom day
We've been planning on it for weeks and we made some wiki notes: http://maitri.ubuntu.com/softwarefreedomday/wiki/index.php/SFD_Philippines We have a draft press release to be given to major IT publications: http://maitri.ubuntu.com/softwarefreedomday/wiki/index.php/August_17 We will be holding the event in a major university in the capital, and we expect around 200 people to attend (most of them students). The reason why we chose to do this in a campus is that we intend to seed interest in these future professionals. Hope this helps. Jerome On 8/19/05, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Jerome Gotangco a écrit : In Manila (Philippines), the local Ubuntu Local Community team will be part of the celebration. I will be with the Ubuntu team, but instead will be pimping GNOME and give out some GNOME Live CDs. What will you be doing? Where? How are you reaching people? -- Cheers! Jerome G. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Software Freedom Day
Hi Sri, Sriram Ramkrishna a écrit : So here is my mock up. I changed it to Get the Brand!. I suck at this stuff so hopefully someone can improve it. Thanks for the effort. Could you please use the simple GNOME foot in future for GNOME branding stuff? It's that one which is trademarked (and anywhere we still have the old one, it needs replacing). The plain foot is on this page: http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/random/logo/ the gnome2-plain.svg and gnome2-plain-label.svg files are the ones to use. Jeff, could you move the unofficial ones out of there, and generate some pngs from the plain ones, like you did for the old one, please? Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Software Freedom Day
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 09:24:12AM +0200, Dave Neary wrote: Hi Sri, Sriram Ramkrishna a écrit : So here is my mock up. I changed it to Get the Brand!. I suck at this stuff so hopefully someone can improve it. Thanks for the effort. Could you please use the simple GNOME foot in future for GNOME branding stuff? It's that one which is trademarked (and anywhere we still have the old one, it needs replacing). Yeah, I took mine from your effort that I found on the marketing wiki. You probably want to remove that one or put something to highlight which one to use. The plain foot is on this page: http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/random/logo/ the gnome2-plain.svg and gnome2-plain-label.svg files are the ones to use. OK. I'll redo with this one. sri -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Software Freedom Day
Sriram Ramkrishna a écrit : Yeah, I took mine from your effort that I found on the marketing wiki. You probably want to remove that one or put something to highlight which one to use. Done. Dave. -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Software Freedom Day
Hi, We should probably do something for Software Freedom Day (even if it's only letting more people know about it) http://softwarefreedomday.org/ - it's the second year it's been help, and I think it's a really good idea which deserves traction and attention. I don't know what we can do, in particular, apart from encouraging local groups to form groups for the event, or join existing groups, putting a splash for the event on our front page at some stage (before the 2.12 release, I think), and organising release parties for 2.12 to coincide with it. But even if that's all we do, I'm for it. Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Software Freedom Day
Simos wrote: A task would be to inform the end-users that they are using software based on GNOME technologies. * Perhaps rework the About dialog menu to show prominently that the app is based on GNOME technologies. * Do application branding around the idea Based on GNOME technologies, GNOME Inside (hmm), or a logo with a foot, the word Inside, in a cirlce. Anything but the circle and the word inside - it's a trademark violation and the sharky lawyers at Intel will be all over it. Someone else had this idea a few years ago and bought themselves a bunch of legal trouble. -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Software Freedom Day
Leslie Proctor wrote: Simos wrote: A task would be to inform the end-users that they are using software based on GNOME technologies. * Perhaps rework the About dialog menu to show prominently that the app is based on GNOME technologies. * Do application branding around the idea Based on GNOME technologies, GNOME Inside (hmm), or a logo with a foot, the word Inside, in a cirlce. Anything but the circle and the word inside - it's a trademark violation and the sharky lawyers at Intel will be all over it. Someone else had this idea a few years ago and bought themselves a bunch of legal trouble. Ok, point taken. I suppose the resident designer of the marketing list would come up with a proper idea. In any case, these actions would go on if there is positive response to the thread. Simos -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
Re: Software Freedom Day
Hi, Simos Xenitellis a crit : In addition, the OpenCD will be available, which has cross-platform applications based on GNOME technologies. A task would be to inform the end-users that they are using software based on GNOME technologies. * Perhaps rework the About dialog menu to show prominently that the app is based on GNOME technologies. * Do application branding around the idea Based on GNOME technologies, GNOME Inside (hmm), or a logo with a foot, the word Inside, in a cirlce. In brainstorming during board and marketing sessions at GUADEC, we came up with the idea of GNOME certification - things would earn a GNOME certification level by playing nice with GNOME. Level 1 could be using common desktop standards like the notification area, drag drop, thumbnailing standards. Level 2 could be use of the GTK+ toolkit. HIG compliance would be another level, using GConf and other GNOME platform technologies another, and so on. Once you're at level 4 or 5 (using GNOME technologies, respecting GNOME visual guidelines and the HIG), you *are* a GNOME app (de facto), regardless of whether you're part of the platform or not. The idea will take off, or not, withing the next month. Federico is going to draw up a rough list of what we consider the various levels of certification (while trying to focus on user visible function rather than back-end technology),and from there we'll start working towards launching the idea. Software on the OpenCD should all have certifications of 2 or 3, I think, which means that we're already pretty GNOMEy. It's definitely a strategy that we should exploit, that GNOME applications are often available on Windows. Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- marketing-list mailing list marketing-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing-list
