Re: [MBZ] Moose stuff/was Dial Indicator - Measuring Runout

[Rick Knoble]

I think it's cocktail hour anyway.  No moose stuff?

Okay, here is one for the real geezers here... What is the difference between 
The Tommy Dorsey Orchestra and a moose? With a moose, the horns are in the 
front and the asshole's in the back. 

If you don't get it, tell it to you great grandpa... he will :)

Rick Knoble
1985 300 CD

Re: [MBZ] Test

[Rich Thomas]

You passed.

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frederick w moir wrote:


Klatta Beings,
This is a test to see if I have a brain!
Autocomplete is a nasty thing, sends stuff to (mumble) dot org!
I'm going out to buy a pint of Moose Tracks!
TTFN
Fred Moir
Lynn MA



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Re: [MBZ] Test

[Chuck Landenberger]

Fred,

Welcome to Friday!!!  Stay calm, it's almost over..  And AFAIAC, 
you passed the test.!!!


Chuck
Phoenix, AZ
On Friday, July 22, 2005, at 04:14  PM, frederick w moir wrote:


Klatta Beings,
This is a test to see if I have a brain!
Autocomplete is a nasty thing, sends stuff to (mumble) dot org!
I'm going out to buy a pint of Moose Tracks!
TTFN
Fred Moir
Lynn MA



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[MBZ] Test

[frederick w moir]

Klatta Beings,
This is a test to see if I have a brain!
Autocomplete is a nasty thing, sends stuff to (mumble) dot org!
I'm going out to buy a pint of Moose Tracks!
TTFN
Fred Moir
Lynn MA

Re: [MBZ] Charity auctions

[Rich Thomas]

I have been to a few of these auctions in Houston, they have not had any 
here for awhile for some reason.  Seen some fairly decent Benzes go for 
a few hundred bux.  There was a nice-looking 6.9 there at one point, 
never saw it on the list though. 

If that one has a grenaded engine and is in good shape otherwise it 
might be a nice project car.  Could one drop a turbodiesel in it?  Or 
just another gasser from a wreck or something.


--R

Desert Rat wrote:


Auctionspeak - new timing chain means new engine. Nice car otherwise!

On 7/22/05, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

In Arlington TX 
http://www.texascarsforkids.org/carlist.asp?page=3&ID=2&SortBy=Make&SortOrd=ASC

300E looks not bad
Nice looking 420 needs a new timing chain needs a new valve cover

Clapped out 300SD in Dallas 
http://www.texascarsforkids.org/details.asp?CarId=5415&vType=1


--R


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Re: [MBZ] Oribinal Prices?

[Chuck Landenberger]

Randy,

Best I can do is from Nitske's book and he lists a price of $20,911 in 
February 1979 for a 300D.   So, I guess it was at least $2-3k less in 
1976.  As an aside there were 28,996 300D's built in 1976.  A total of 
331,999 between 1975 and 1985...  Not that you asked.


Don't worry about spell check,  I knew what you meant.

Take care,

Chuck
1980 300SD w/340kmiles
Phoenix, AZ
On Friday, July 22, 2005, at 03:57  PM, R A Bennell wrote:

Anyone know what it cost to buy a 1976 300D brand new off the dealer's 
lot?


Randy in Winnipeg


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Re: [MBZ] Oribinal Prices?

[Rich Thomas]

I think you can contact MB and they will send you a copy of the original 
window sticker.  Somebody said that at some time.  I seem to recall that 
a 79 300TD was about $US25k or so, someone said at some time.  So maybe 
a 76 300D was maybe $20kish?  That was a lot of money back then.  I 
remember a friend of mine's dad bought a new 123 gasser (a 280?) back 
about 78, and I recall it was $22k or so at the time -- he was an 
orthopedic surgeon, had the money, bought my friend and his brother a 
Vega for them to drive, what a POS that thing was.  We went out driving 
in it one night, that thing was a fine ride -- fast, handling, ride quality.


--R


R A Bennell wrote:


Anyone know what it cost to buy a 1976 300D brand new off the dealer's lot?

Randy in Winnipeg


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Re: [MBZ] Dial Indicator - Measuring Runout

[Rich Thomas]

I don't have a strong opinion, people can do to their cars what they 
want, good bad or just OK.  Take advice or leave it, just be civil.  
Echoing Algore when W supposedly got all "snippy" with him. 

Though I did buy one of the cheap Harbor Freight gauges for $10 or $15 
or so, at the time several listers recommended it for this job and I was 
there at some point and it was on sale, I have not used it for that, but 
seems easy enough to do so why not.  I might just give it a whirl now 
that it has become a topic in my mind.  Someone posted some pics using 
it after doing a description of the process for the list, or sent me one 
or something, might have to try to find that.  It's in the maint manual 
too, grainy pic.  I have used it to dial in my table saw blade and 
fence, did a really good job for that.


I think it's cocktail hour anyway.  No moose stuff?

--R

Curt Raymond wrote:


Hey Rich, I totally agree with Dan.

Frankly its Kaleb's list and as long as he's okay with it Mr. BenzBarn 
can go right on posting all he'd like I just skip over them. That said 
I do like to see when somebody calls a spade a spade and BenzBarn, 
intentionally or not tends to come of as an asshole.


Have a good weekend everybody.

-Curt

Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 13:21:19 -0500
From: Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>

Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dial Indicator - Measuring Runout
To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Well let's not get snippy now!

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Re: [MBZ] Charity auctions

[Desert Rat]

Auctionspeak - new timing chain means new engine. Nice car otherwise!

On 7/22/05, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In Arlington TX 
> http://www.texascarsforkids.org/carlist.asp?page=3&ID=2&SortBy=Make&SortOrd=ASC
> 300E looks not bad
> Nice looking 420 needs a new timing chain needs a new valve cover
> 
> Clapped out 300SD in Dallas 
> http://www.texascarsforkids.org/details.asp?CarId=5415&vType=1
> 
> --R
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[MBZ] Charity auctions

[Rich Thomas]

In Arlington TX  
http://www.texascarsforkids.org/carlist.asp?page=3&ID=2&SortBy=Make&SortOrd=ASC

300E looks not bad
Nice looking 420 needs a new timing chain needs a new valve cover

Clapped out 300SD in Dallas  
http://www.texascarsforkids.org/details.asp?CarId=5415&vType=1


--R

Re: [MBZ] Dial Indicator - Measuring Runout

[BenzBarn]

Problem is, you're agreeing with the wrong Dan. That's OK, you won't ruin me ~)

Asshole bumpkin,
Dan

Re: [MBZ] Dial Indicator - Measuring Runout

[BenzBarn]

NE of Detroit about 50 miles right on the Canada Michigan border. But why
would you ask considering I'm such an asshole and everything

[MBZ] Original prices? (I can't spell or type I guess)

[R A Bennell]

The lead line is misleading. The question relates to the original price of
the car as anyone who looked at it should see I guess.

Randy in Winnipeg who needs to turn on spellcheck

Re: [MBZ] CamShaft Prelube necessary?

[Darrell W. Sigmon]

Forgot to tell you that I mixed it 50/50 with engine oil

DWS

Loren Faeth wrote:

STP was the standard for detroit iron  (read loose fit)  With the closer 
and more accurate fit of modern aluminum engines (Read tight fit)  And 
given the "stickiness" of Mobil 1, I would opt for the mobil 1, or perhaps 
some Molykote product.  The Molykote product I am thinking of is a 
Molybenum Disulfide suspension in oil.  The Moly is a friction reducing 
agent.   I can't remember what they call the product.  It is available at 
bearing supply houses.  (Motion Industries, etc)


STP is so thick that i'd be afraid of causing some damage from assembly or 
start-up  (Distorted bearing caps, etc.) on your engine.
Yes, I always used to use STP for assembly.  For a cast iron OM engine, it 
is ok, but I still have some concerns.  I'm just not sure it is the best 
thing for alum heads etc.  Even the fit of pistons and crank bearings are 
tighter on MB engines than the old detroit iron.  I have seen some odd 
distortion of main and crank bearings on high mile cast iron diesel engines 
that may have been caused by something like this.  It is irregular cavities 
in the bearing surface, on the order of 1/8 to 1/4 inch wide and 1/2-3/4 
inch long.  I have never figured out the cause.  THey are not etching from 
acid.  I have seen those too.



At 12:03 PM 7/22/2005, you wrote:


Dave, use something like STP on the bearing surfaces..

Darrell

dave walton wrote:



I'm replacing the head gasket on my 94 S350. I see ads for Camshaft
Prelube. Is the stuff necessary, or can I just bath everything in
Mobil-1 before I button it up?

Thanks

-Dave Walton
94 S350
99 E300

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Re: [MBZ] Dial Indicator - Measuring Runout

[Desert Rat]

Hey Benzbarn, where's your shop located?


On 7/22/05, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hey Rich, I totally agree with Dan.
> 
> Frankly its Kaleb's list and as long as he's okay with it Mr. BenzBarn can
> go right on posting all he'd like I just skip over them. That said I do like
> to see when somebody calls a spade a spade and BenzBarn, intentionally or
> not tends to come of as an asshole.
> 
> Have a good weekend everybody.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 13:21:19 -0500
> From: Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dial Indicator - Measuring Runout
> To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Well let's not get snippy now!
> 
> --R
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1985 380SL

Re: [MBZ] Dial Indicator - Measuring Runout

[Curt Raymond]

Hey Rich, I totally agree with Dan.

Frankly its Kaleb's list and as long as he's okay with it Mr. BenzBarn can go 
right on posting all he'd like I just skip over them. That said I do like to 
see when somebody calls a spade a spade and BenzBarn, intentionally or not 
tends to come of as an asshole.

Have a good weekend everybody.

-Curt

Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 13:21:19 -0500
From: Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dial Indicator - Measuring Runout
To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Well let's not get snippy now!

--R

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Re: [MBZ] Dial Indicator - Measuring Runout

[BenzBarn]

Well, you and Marshall are clearly too smart for me and all those other rip
off mechanics out there.
Tell you what Dan, I'll hire you. You can show me how to do it and pull out
the manual just to prove you're right. Meanwhile, the work will be stacked
up to the ceiling while you piss around with '' rightness ''. And what
happens when it's not in the manual or the big blue book? What then, oh sage
ones?
I guess you either know or you figure out how to fix things. That's called
experience and it's what people pay me for. I don't rip people off, EVER!

I've been at this for 28 years. Before these entertaining and sometimes
informative web sites came along I had to figure out ALL of this shit on my
own. There was no one to ask and no '' free '' answers to be had. Now
everyone who isn't an expert can be via the internet. You can google
anything and find info on it. Doesn't mean squat if you can't actually do
the repair or think your way out of a problem ( believe me, most people
can't ). And it ain't braggin' if you can.

Dan ( as well )

[MBZ] score?

[redghost]

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1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA

Re: [MBZ] Ricardo Montalban

[Jeff Zedic]

Actually he was the lead in the second Star TREK movie, not Star 
WARS..better change that in ther final draft pronto!


Jeff Zedic
Toronto
87 300TD
83 300D

Re: [MBZ] Dial Indicator - Measuring Runout

[Marshall Booth]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

FELLAS ( AND LAIDES)
  i was in the auto repair business for  while 13 years or so
 even when I was in school   the instructors did not use  a dial 
indicator  when we replaced a wheel bearing
 how it was done  new bearing was  packed with  grease, the spindle was 
wiped off with a rag, and the new bearings installed with a new seal the 
castle nut was tightened down tight enough to make the rotor stop 
spining( with a wrench ! ) then it was backed off to  finger tightness,  
new cotter pin installed and rotor wiped off . job done.
 
 a dial indicator was used to measure ROTOR  run out ( to see if the 
rotor was warped ) and if it could be safely cut
 actually some amount of " play" in a wheedle bearing is necessary it 
 has to be a little sloppy as a thick grease does the lubrication
 if you look at a wheel bearing it is made to " not too close 
tolerances"! it aint nothing like a engine bearing


You were working on a MUCH less precise assembly where tolerances of 
well over a thousandth were tolerable (or even optimal). Your system 
used a stepwise lock - a cotter pin - the Mercedes locking system is 
MUCH less tolerant and is infinitely adjustable. You can treat MOST 
American iron the way you were taught and get quite acceptable service 
from them, but treat a Mercedes that way and it WILL fail - maybe sooner 
and maybe later - and it WON'T steer like a Mercedes (at least not for 
long).


That's NOT to say that many mechanics don't get away with treating 
Mercedes that way - but they are doing their customers a GREAT 
disservice (and if working on flat rate - overcharging as well since the 
time to measure with the dial indicator is figured into the job).


Marshall
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  "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 
159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi

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Re: [MBZ] ot -- volvos -- was Re: '97 300D

[David Brodbeck]

Steve MacSween wrote:
> someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> 
>>Never driven a 740, but I drove a 940 as a loaner car once.  Nice car.
>>It's no Mercedes, but it ain't bad.  I had a 240 wagon for a while and
>>it was the most comfortable pickup truck I ever drove. ;)
> 
> 
> Old Swedish joke: "Volvo -- Sweden's most luxurious tractors"

Heh heh.  Yeah, the B230 engine (and its predecessors) are rather
"agricultural," but sturdy.  They're highly reminiscent of an OM617 that
way.

[MBZ] Oribinal Prices?

[R A Bennell]

Anyone know what it cost to buy a 1976 300D brand new off the dealer's lot?

Randy in Winnipeg

Re: [MBZ] W115 240D fuel drain - YOU ARE RIGHT....

[Christopher McCann]

I was going to do the pipe wrench, but I'll try the
1/2" breaker bar first. I must be spacially challenged
as I looked at it and thought that it wouldn't fit.
Newbie. 

Having looked at it more closely, I could see that
there is enough lip to grab with a pipe wrench, which
is probably what most people do.

Must confess that (this being the first car I've ever
worked on beyond oil changes, etc), it is an absolute
blast. Having the right tools and not being in a hurry
(becuase you have other cars to drive) makes a world
of difference.

Thanks again.

Christopher


--- Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> yep   (works best with a 1/2 inch drive socket for
> 13/16 plugs)   Or you 
> can put a pipe wrench on the outside of the socket.
> 
> 
> At 01:50 PM 7/22/2005, you wrote:
> >Christopher McCann wrote:
> > >
> > > the hex end of a 13/16 spark plug socket fits
> > > perfectly!
> >
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> plugholder
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Re: [MBZ] Ricardo Montalban

[andrew strasfogel]

I recall Billy Crystal playing Ricardo Montalban in the SNL skit.

On 7/22/05, Dan Weeks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So tell us more about this article.
> Sorry, even I had remembered it wrong. Here's the text of the little story
> blurb, in its entirety:
> 
> Whatever happened to Ricardo Montalban?
> Chrysler chose Montalban as the spokesman for its new, personal-sized luxury
> car, the Cordoba, in 1975. His richly accented delivery of the line "finest
> Corinthian leather," became so famous it was often parodied. The May 14,
> 1977 Saturday Night Live, for instance, featured a skit entitled "I am
> Ricardo Montalban," in which Montalban, portrayed by Dan Akroyd, is finally
> distinguished from two imposters after he produces a set of Cordoba car
> keys. Later, Akroyd-as-Mantalban  attempts to seduce Gilda Radner's
> character with the line "your eyes are like tinted opera windows, your hair
> and skin like the fnest Cointhian Lathe" to a roar of laughter
> and applause.
> Montalban went on to play the leading role of Mr. Roarke in the popular
> television series Fantasy Island (1978-1984), and the lead in the second
> Star Wars feature The Wrath of Kahn. He also appeared in two of the Planet
> of the Apes movies and starred in the last two Spy Kids films. The
> 84-year-old actor still appears at occasional Star Trek conventions, where
> he always draws a big crowd.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dan Weeks wrote:
> And it was "RICH Corinthian leather." I just did an article on him for a
> DiamlerChrysler publication.  I get odd looks when I show up to a DC new car
> unveiling in a 23-year-old old Benz, but so far no one has said anything.
> Perhaps their German bosses are listening...
> 
> 
> That was Ricardo Montalban, another one of my favorite actors.
> 
> Kevin wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 07:04:03PM -0500, Don wrote:
> Your love of Shatner just lowers you down a notch or two.
> 
> THIS is MY Mercedes. CAN'T you just SEE how NICE the FACTORY leather IS!
> [Spock should have killed him when he had the chance.]
> 
> 
> Could be worse. At least mercedes didn't offer real corinthian leather.
> 
> K
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[MBZ] No Waffle House but.........

[RELNGSON]

CLAREMORE, OKLAHOMA. Wings Over Oklahoma takes place July 23 and 24 at
Claremore Regional (GCM). Featuring the West Coast A-10 Demo Team, Bob
Carlton and his jet sailplane, Team Chaos, the Sooner Squadron Warbirds, and
more! Visit the Web site http://www.wingsoverok.com ).

Re: [MBZ] Dial Indicator - Measuring Runout

[PONDERSOA]

FELLAS ( AND LAIDES) 
  i was in the auto repair business for  while 13 years or so 
 even when I was in school   the instructors did  not use  a dial indicator  
when we replaced a wheel bearing 
 how it was done  new bearing was  packed with  grease,  the spindle was 
wiped off with a rag, and the new bearings installed with a new  seal the 
castle 
nut was tightened down tight enough to make the rotor stop  spining( with a 
wrench ! ) then it was backed off to  finger  tightness,  new cotter pin 
installed and rotor wiped off . job done.
 
 a dial indicator was used to measure ROTOR  run out ( to see if  the rotor 
was warped ) and if it could be safely cut 
 actually some amount of " play" in a wheedle bearing is  necessary it  has 
to be a little sloppy as a thick grease does the  lubrication
 if you look at a wheel bearing it is made to " not too close  tolerances"! 
it aint nothing like a engine bearing 
 
mike collins 
1985 500 sec 
 

Re: [MBZ] Ah Canna Give her more poowr, Keptain! [OT]

[Jeff Zedic]

Wow, wonder how Nimoy was lucky not to get that horrible accent??

Jeff Zedic
Toronto
87 300TD
83 300D

Re: [MBZ] W115 240D fuel drain - YOU ARE RIGHT....

[Loren Faeth]

yep   (works best with a 1/2 inch drive socket for 13/16 plugs)   Or you 
can put a pipe wrench on the outside of the socket.



At 01:50 PM 7/22/2005, you wrote:

Christopher McCann wrote:
>
> the hex end of a 13/16 spark plug socket fits
> perfectly!

So how does that work, do you remove the rubber plugholder
and stick an extension through the socket to drive it?

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Re: [MBZ] OkieAcres

[Don]

I was trying to figure that out myself. He is too cranky for an ATCM
(my old rate) and too polite for a BMCM.

On 7/22/05, Royce Engler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A Master Chief? What's your rating?  Didn't know I was in the presence of
> such folks.  Guess I'll have to watch my language 
> 
> V/R
> Royce Engler
> CAPT USNR (RET, by God)
> 1985 300TD Turbo 265K
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of JabbaHursty
> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 12:29 PM
> To: Mercedes mailing list
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OkieAcres
> 
> 
> as one navy man to another, (sometimes i pretend to be a Master Chief and
> insist people address me as such), Kleb is ok.  he is actually quite
> charming in person and really does cheerfully put up with a lot of guff
> from us.
> 
> At 01:22 PM 7/22/2005, you wrote:
> >THAT was FUNNY!!!  Makes me want to start reading The Onion again.  Also
> >reminds me to refrain from boastful lies until I've grown skin as thick as
> >Kaleb's.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Very respectfully,
> >/s/
> >LCDR Meade M. Dillon, USNR
> >Digest Lurker since 2001
> >'85 300TD 322k miles (Euro 5spd)
> >'96 Infiniti I30 149k miles (wife's 5spd)
> >'73 Balboa 20 'Sanctification'
> >Charleston SC
-- 
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I don't even need the drum.

-

LT Don 
1977 Mercedes 240D (Slug) 
1972 Honda CB-500K

Re: [MBZ] OkieAcres

[Royce Engler]

A Master Chief? What's your rating?  Didn't know I was in the presence of
such folks.  Guess I'll have to watch my language 

V/R
Royce Engler
CAPT USNR (RET, by God)
1985 300TD Turbo 265K



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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OkieAcres


as one navy man to another, (sometimes i pretend to be a Master Chief and
insist people address me as such), Kleb is ok.  he is actually quite
charming in person and really does cheerfully put up with a lot of guff
from us.

At 01:22 PM 7/22/2005, you wrote:
>THAT was FUNNY!!!  Makes me want to start reading The Onion again.  Also
>reminds me to refrain from boastful lies until I've grown skin as thick as
>Kaleb's.
>
>
>
>
>Very respectfully,
>/s/
>LCDR Meade M. Dillon, USNR
>Digest Lurker since 2001
>'85 300TD 322k miles (Euro 5spd)
>'96 Infiniti I30 149k miles (wife's 5spd)
>'73 Balboa 20 'Sanctification'
>Charleston SC
>
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Re: [MBZ] stick parts car

[Mitch Haley]

andrew strasfogel wrote:
> 
> What's a 280 diesel??

Who knows, might be a 280E, 240D, or maybe 300D euro.
Sure looks like a 123 w/sunroof to me. I'd pay $50 for
the tranny alone if one of the above.

Re: [MBZ] W115 240D fuel drain - YOU ARE RIGHT....

[Mitch Haley]

Christopher McCann wrote:
> 
> the hex end of a 13/16 spark plug socket fits
> perfectly! 

So how does that work, do you remove the rubber plugholder
and stick an extension through the socket to drive it?

Re: [MBZ] Dial Indicator - Measuring Runout

[Rich Thomas]

Well let's not get snippy now!

--R

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




On 7/22/05, BenzBarn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 


MB techs don't use dial gauges to set wheel bearing - they'd be laughed
   


out
 


of the shop. You either have mechanics feel or you don't.  I've never had
problems with any I've done and I always check them after a bit of test
driving.

Setting them with a dial gauge didn't give me any better results and it
   


took
 


a lot of time to set up with little or no benefit. Once you know how much
   


is
 


the right amount it's not that hard to reproduce those results. For those
who aren't sure, or do this job once every 20 years, the dial gauge might
not be a bad idea. Most people don't own  a dial gauge though.
   



Well it absolutely is in the manual, job 33-300, mentioned as a special
tool, complete with photo on page 2. Sorry if I am not cool enough to know
which part of the instructions to ignore.  Please advise the list on other
parts of the manual that we can ignore.Took a lot time to set up ?  It
takes like 5 minutes if that.   I disagree with you and frankly doubt that
that most MB techs don't use the guage. Perhaps with all the time you are
saving not following the instructions you could attend an attitude
adjustment seminar.

Warmly,

Dan






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Re: [MBZ] Dial Indicator - Measuring Runout

[DElliott%SWS]

On 7/22/05, BenzBarn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> MB techs don't use dial gauges to set wheel bearing - they'd be laughed
out
> of the shop. You either have mechanics feel or you don't.  I've never had
> problems with any I've done and I always check them after a bit of test
> driving.
>
> Setting them with a dial gauge didn't give me any better results and it
took
> a lot of time to set up with little or no benefit. Once you know how much
is
> the right amount it's not that hard to reproduce those results. For those
> who aren't sure, or do this job once every 20 years, the dial gauge might
> not be a bad idea. Most people don't own  a dial gauge though.

Well it absolutely is in the manual, job 33-300, mentioned as a special
tool, complete with photo on page 2. Sorry if I am not cool enough to know
which part of the instructions to ignore.  Please advise the list on other
parts of the manual that we can ignore.Took a lot time to set up ?  It
takes like 5 minutes if that.   I disagree with you and frankly doubt that
that most MB techs don't use the guage. Perhaps with all the time you are
saving not following the instructions you could attend an attitude
adjustment seminar.

Warmly,

Dan

Re: [MBZ] OkieAcres

[Dan Weeks]

And tell us exactly what "23 year old Benz" you drive.

82 300SD, 275k.

On 7/21/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 So tell us more about this article.



--
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82 VW Westfalia 1.6 TD conversion 175k
82 Mercedes 300SD, 275k

Re: [MBZ] Ricardo Montalban

[Dan Weeks]

So tell us more about this article.

Sorry, even I had remembered it wrong. Here's the text of the little 
story blurb, in its entirety:


Whatever happened to Ricardo Montalban?
Chrysler chose Montalban as the spokesman for its new, personal-sized 
luxury car, the Cordoba, in 1975. His richly accented delivery of the 
line "finest Corinthian leather," became so famous it was often 
parodied. The May 14, 1977 Saturday Night Live, for instance, 
featured a skit entitled "I am Ricardo Montalban," in which 
Montalban, portrayed by Dan Akroyd, is finally distinguished from two 
imposters after he produces a set of Cordoba car keys. Later, 
Akroyd-as-Mantalban  attempts to seduce Gilda Radner's character with 
the line "your eyes are like tinted opera windows, your hair and skin 
like the fnest Cointhian Lathe" to a roar of laughter and 
applause.
Montalban went on to play the leading role of Mr. Roarke in the 
popular television series Fantasy Island (1978-1984), and the lead in 
the second Star Wars feature The Wrath of Kahn. He also appeared in 
two of the Planet of the Apes movies and starred in the last two Spy 
Kids films. The 84-year-old actor still appears at occasional Star 
Trek conventions, where he always draws a big crowd.








Dan Weeks wrote:

And it was "RICH Corinthian leather." I just did an article on him 
for a DiamlerChrysler publication.  I get odd looks when I show up 
to a DC new car unveiling in a 23-year-old old Benz, but so far no 
one has said anything. Perhaps their German bosses are listening...





That was Ricardo Montalban, another one of my favorite actors.

Kevin wrote:


On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 07:04:03PM -0500, Don wrote:


Your love of Shatner just lowers you down a notch or two.

THIS is MY Mercedes. CAN'T you just SEE how NICE the FACTORY leather IS!
[Spock should have killed him when he had the chance.]



Could be worse. At least mercedes didn't offer real corinthian leather.

K

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Re: [MBZ] OkieAcres

[Don]

There will be a future cartoon containing the words "Reserve" and
"LCDR" -- I just haven't determined the exact phrasing yet.

On 7/22/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> THAT was FUNNY!!!  Makes me want to start reading The Onion again.  Also 
> reminds me to refrain from boastful lies until I've grown skin as thick as 
> Kaleb's.
>

[MBZ] Deadly moose

[redghost]

48 - Creative Issuses.mov
Description: application/applefile


48 - Creative Issuses.mov
Description: QuickTime movie



Trimmed a bit from larger Foamy file, but beware the deadly moose

happy moose day

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1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA

Re: [MBZ] CamShaft Prelube necessary?

[Loren Faeth]

STP was the standard for detroit iron  (read loose fit)  With the closer 
and more accurate fit of modern aluminum engines (Read tight fit)  And 
given the "stickiness" of Mobil 1, I would opt for the mobil 1, or perhaps 
some Molykote product.  The Molykote product I am thinking of is a 
Molybenum Disulfide suspension in oil.  The Moly is a friction reducing 
agent.   I can't remember what they call the product.  It is available at 
bearing supply houses.  (Motion Industries, etc)


STP is so thick that i'd be afraid of causing some damage from assembly or 
start-up  (Distorted bearing caps, etc.) on your engine.
Yes, I always used to use STP for assembly.  For a cast iron OM engine, it 
is ok, but I still have some concerns.  I'm just not sure it is the best 
thing for alum heads etc.  Even the fit of pistons and crank bearings are 
tighter on MB engines than the old detroit iron.  I have seen some odd 
distortion of main and crank bearings on high mile cast iron diesel engines 
that may have been caused by something like this.  It is irregular cavities 
in the bearing surface, on the order of 1/8 to 1/4 inch wide and 1/2-3/4 
inch long.  I have never figured out the cause.  THey are not etching from 
acid.  I have seen those too.



At 12:03 PM 7/22/2005, you wrote:

Dave, use something like STP on the bearing surfaces..

Darrell

dave walton wrote:

> I'm replacing the head gasket on my 94 S350. I see ads for Camshaft
> Prelube. Is the stuff necessary, or can I just bath everything in
> Mobil-1 before I button it up?
>
> Thanks
>
> -Dave Walton
> 94 S350
> 99 E300
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Re: [MBZ] stick parts car

[andrew strasfogel]

What's a 280 diesel??

On 7/22/05, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> I was very close to bidding $50 on it when I noticed this:
> 
> located in Lambertville New Jersey
> 
> 
> The "seller" is located here, about 100 miles from me:
> 
> Item location:  Holland, Michigan  United States
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Re: [MBZ] Ricardo Montalban

[andrew strasfogel]

And tell us exactly what "23 year old Benz" you drive.

On 7/21/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So tell us more about this article.
> 
> Dan Weeks wrote:
> 
> > And it was "RICH Corinthian leather." I just did an article on him
> > for a DiamlerChrysler publication.  I get odd looks when I show up to
> > a DC new car unveiling in a 23-year-old old Benz, but so far no one
> > has said anything. Perhaps their German bosses are listening...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>That was Ricardo Montalban, another one of my favorite actors.
> >>
> >>Kevin wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 07:04:03PM -0500, Don wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> Your love of Shatner just lowers you down a notch or two.
> 
> THIS is MY Mercedes. CAN'T you just SEE how NICE the FACTORY leather IS!
> [Spock should have killed him when he had the chance.]
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Could be worse. At least mercedes didn't offer real corinthian leather.
> >>>
> >>>K
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> >> 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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> >
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> >
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Re: [MBZ] OkieAcres

[JabbaHursty]

as one navy man to another, (sometimes i pretend to be a Master Chief and 
insist people address me as such), Kleb is ok.  he is actually quite 
charming in person and really does cheerfully put up with a lot of guff 
from us.


At 01:22 PM 7/22/2005, you wrote:
THAT was FUNNY!!!  Makes me want to start reading The Onion again.  Also 
reminds me to refrain from boastful lies until I've grown skin as thick as 
Kaleb's.





Very respectfully,
/s/
LCDR Meade M. Dillon, USNR
Digest Lurker since 2001
'85 300TD 322k miles (Euro 5spd)
'96 Infiniti I30 149k miles (wife's 5spd)
'73 Balboa 20 'Sanctification'
Charleston SC


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[MBZ] OkieAcres

[meadedillon]

THAT was FUNNY!!!  Makes me want to start reading The Onion again.  Also 
reminds me to refrain from boastful lies until I've grown skin as thick as 
Kaleb's.




Very respectfully,
/s/
LCDR Meade M. Dillon, USNR
Digest Lurker since 2001
'85 300TD 322k miles (Euro 5spd)
'96 Infiniti I30 149k miles (wife's 5spd)
'73 Balboa 20 'Sanctification'
Charleston SC

Re: [MBZ] CamShaft Prelube necessary?

[Darrell W. Sigmon]

Dave, use something like STP on the bearing surfaces..

Darrell

dave walton wrote:


I'm replacing the head gasket on my 94 S350. I see ads for Camshaft
Prelube. Is the stuff necessary, or can I just bath everything in
Mobil-1 before I button it up?

Thanks

-Dave Walton
94 S350
99 E300

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Re: [MBZ] Dial Indicator

[Gary Thompson]

Of course, the real trick with setting wheel bearing end play on an MB
is not just owning a dial gauge, but owning one accurate enough to
measure 0.0001". That's 0.1mil. Bare in mind that most of the cheapy
(ala HF) gauges are only accurate in the 1mil range.

I've done both gauge and feel, and have just about come to the
conclusion, at least for me, that if I set it so I just can't feel it,
it's about right. If you can feel some slop, it's definitely too
loose. I can see how someone who does it often would do away with the
gauge. Sometimes we loose sight of the fact that the MB manuals say to
measure everything because it's kinda hard to tell mechanics spread
out all over the world to "tighten it until it feels right."


Gary Thompson
1995 E320
1984 300D   "The Curse"


On 7/22/05, BenzBarn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> MB techs don't use dial gauges to set wheel bearing - they'd be laughed out
> of the shop. You either have mechanics feel or you don't.  I've never had
> problems with any I've done and I always check them after a bit of test
> driving.
> 
> Setting them with a dial gauge didn't give me any better results and it took
> a lot of time to set up with little or no benefit. Once you know how much is
> the right amount it's not that hard to reproduce those results. For those
> who aren't sure, or do this job once every 20 years, the dial gauge might
> not be a bad idea. Most people don't own  a dial gauge though.

Re: [MBZ] Dial Indicator

[BenzBarn]

MB techs don't use dial gauges to set wheel bearing - they'd be laughed out
of the shop. You either have mechanics feel or you don't.  I've never had
problems with any I've done and I always check them after a bit of test
driving.

Setting them with a dial gauge didn't give me any better results and it took
a lot of time to set up with little or no benefit. Once you know how much is
the right amount it's not that hard to reproduce those results. For those
who aren't sure, or do this job once every 20 years, the dial gauge might
not be a bad idea. Most people don't own  a dial gauge though.

Re: [MBZ] OkieAcres

[OK Don]

Some people have WAY TOO much time on their hands!!!

On 7/22/05, Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://monkeydyne.com/rmcs/opencomic.phtml?rowid=83823
> 
> --
> Some folks march to the beat of a different drummer.
> I don't even need the drum.
> 
> -
> 
> LT Don
> 1977 Mercedes 240D (Slug)
> 1972 Honda CB-500K
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Re: [MBZ] Ah Canna Give her more poowr, Keptain! [OT]

[Rich Thomas]

(The Peoples' Republic of) Cambridge (A Domestic Violence-free Zone, and 
Nuclear-free Zone, though there is nuclear reactor right there on Mass 
Ave, hahahaha)  actually, East Cambridge to be exact, yep just a few 
blocks from the MoS.


--R

Curt Raymond wrote:


Ahem, while Nimoy may have been working in ONT he's a son of Boston...

He does the intro for all the Imax shows at the Museum of Science and 
they point out he grew up like 4 blocks away.


-Curt
I call living in Massachusetts "living in exile" until I get a chance 
to move back to Maine


 


Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 13:06:43 -0700
From: redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>

Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ah Canna Give her more poowr, Keptain! [OT]
To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>

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I am still amazed at the number of cunucks employed on the NCC 1701. 
Both Shatner and Nimoy, along with Doohan.  The first two were

shakespearean actors who were in  stratford, ONT.  Jimmy doohan landed
on a french beach on D-Day, got his finger blown off, along with five
other holes poked in him.


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Re: [MBZ] OkieAcres

[John Robbins]

Very, Very nice

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005, Don wrote:


http://monkeydyne.com/rmcs/opencomic.phtml?rowid=83823

Re: [MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices

[John Robbins]

On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Vernon  Ritchey wrote:


New perspective.  I live in Niceville, FL.  Maybe 30 miles from Dennis last
week.  About 90% of the fuel for the region comes by barge and the storm
really messed that up.  All local gas stations are out although a few get a
truck load once in a while ... just look for the lines.  My real estate lady
came in her hubby's pickup today because their other cars were on "E".  So
for now, we are happy to get fuel at any price.  It's a different
perspective.


I've heard that a benefit to diesel is that it doesn't run short in 
instances like that (ie, when the fuel line going to Phoenix broke..). 
Was that the case with this or was EVERYTHING gone?


John
'79 300SD

[MBZ] W115 240D fuel drain - YOU ARE RIGHT....

[Christopher McCann]

the hex end of a 13/16 spark plug socket fits
perfectly! I tried it just before I started grinding
the 7/8 allen wrench. Luckily the guy will take a
return. Will exchange for a pipe wrench, which is far
more verstile than a 22mm allen wrench.

Thanks!




Christopher McCann, Raytown, Missouri
-1985 300SD, 207K miles, "Wulf" http://don.homelinux.net/mbz/Chris
-1976 240D, ManyK miles,  "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen 
= Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle)
-1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, "The Van"

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Re: [MBZ] Ah Canna Give her more poowr, Keptain! [OT]

[Curt Raymond]

Ahem, while Nimoy may have been working in ONT he's a son of Boston...

He does the intro for all the Imax shows at the Museum of Science and they 
point out he grew up like 4 blocks away.

-Curt
I call living in Massachusetts "living in exile" until I get a chance to move 
back to Maine

 

Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 13:06:43 -0700
From: redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ah Canna Give her more poowr, Keptain! [OT]
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I am still amazed at the number of cunucks employed on the NCC 1701.  
Both Shatner and Nimoy, along with Doohan.  The first two were 
shakespearean actors who were in  stratford, ONT.  Jimmy doohan landed 
on a french beach on D-Day, got his finger blown off, along with five 
other holes poked in him.




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Re: [MBZ] CamShaft Prelube necessary?

[Joe Knight]

You might just spin the engine with the starter before installing the
injectors.  Have someone see to the manual shutoff lever on the IP
during this exercise or tie it down.  Continue for a few secs after
the gauge stabilizes.  I've always done this with or without assembly
lube, leaving the spark plugs off gassers.  Have yet to pull the head
on a diesel though.

joe

Re: [MBZ] CamShaft Prelube necessary?

[brian toscano]

I just put ample amounts of synthetic oil everywhere. 
Brian



On 7/22/05, Zeitgeist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've always coated my cam lobes with engine assembly grease for
> startups, just for extra lube insurance--theoretically it sticks
> around a bit longer than engine oil, but that's debatable.
> 
> On 7/21/05, dave walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm replacing the head gasket on my 94 S350. I see ads for Camshaft
> > Prelube. Is the stuff necessary, or can I just bath everything in
> > Mobil-1 before I button it up?
> > 
> 
> Casey
> Biodiesel:
> '87 300TD intercooler (206k) 
> '84 300D (202k)
> Gashuffer:
> '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (184k)
> Olympia, WA
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[MBZ] eBay seller on crack

[Luther Gulseth]

over priced 240D.
http://tinyurl.com/dhszg



Luther   KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix)
'82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi

Re: [MBZ] Kaleb's relative?

[TimothyPilgrim]

Oh okay. Cool. I had that for a while.

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 7/22/05, Royce Engler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Oklahoma mahogany is the metal backing strip on the dash where the wood trim
> strip is supposed to be...
> 
> Kinda like Oklahoma Chrome...known to most of us as Duct Tape 
> 
> Royce Engler
> 1985 300TD Turbo 265K
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: TimothyPilgrim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 7:49 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes mailing list
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Kaleb's relative?
> 
> 
> I get the lift-piston, but what's with the Oklahoma Mohagany? That
> wood looks normal to me.
> 
> Tim
> 1982 300TD Moby
> 
> On 7/21/05, Royce Engler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Gotta be...didja see the Oklahoma Mahogany on the dash wood strips and the
> > Oklahoma lift piston on the tailgate shot?  
> >
> > Royce Engler
> > 1985 300TD Turbo 265K
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Bad Wheel Bearings?

[Marshall Booth]

dave walton wrote:

How do you measure the play in a wheel bearing with a dial gauge? If
someone could describe it, or point to a link with pictures, that
would be great!
Sorry for such a basic question, but I got nowhere with Google.


I don't understand NOT reading the workshop manual! There ARE copies 
that can be downloaded and there is 
http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/Service/W123/Main.html


Measuring wheel bearing play is clearly outlined in section 33-300 of 
the workshop manual (attached). There is no other way to measure the 
0.0004-0.0008" play of 123/126s with sufficient accuracy to insure that 
the car steers like a Mercedes and not like American iron!


With newer chassis cars (201/124 and later and 107s) you can guesstimate 
by using the outer washers test (outlined in the '85 and later technical 
data manuals) and get sufficiently close to the the 0.0004-0.0008" 
limit, but on the '70s and '80s cars without the outer washer, it's not 
really possible to be sufficiently accurate.


I've tested the work of mechanics with "calibrated hands" (they don't 
think they need torque wrenches or dial indicators - they can do it by 
"feel") for both wheel lug torque and wheel bearing play and few get 
even close (within 20% for wheel lugs or transmission pan bolts or 
within half to double the allowable wheel bearing play).


You do NOT need an expensive dial indicator that reads to 0.0001". One 
of the Chinese ones (that costs less than $20) that reads to 0.001" is 
sufficient as most people can estimate "half a thou" (0.0005) on a scale 
that reads to 0.001" with sufficient accuracy to be between 0.0004 and 
0.0008".


When play is properly checked and set and grease changed when it starts 
to get hard and dirty, front wheel bearings can last the life of the 
car. I've owned 22 Mercedes over the years (only a few were purchased 
new) and I've replaced fewer than three or four front wheel bearings in 
all that time.


Marshall
--
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  "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 
159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi

  Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection
http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm


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Description: Adobe PDF document

Re: [MBZ] Dial Indicator

[DElliott%SWS]

to: "BenzBarn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

"What's the dial indicator for? You guys go beyond dramatic.."

If you can measure a run out of 0.0004-0.0008 using only your bare hands
then I will eat my hat.

For the other poster asking about the dial indicator see:

http://www.mini-lathe.com/Measurement/Dial_indicators/Dial_indicators.htm

Dan Elliott
82 300D-T 82kmi



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Re: [MBZ] Bad Wheel Bearings?

[Barry Stark]

You need to read the manual.

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bad Wheel Bearings?


What's the dial indicator for? You guys go beyond dramatic..

[MBZ] Study Distorts Biodiesel’s Energy Balanc e

[Rory]

*Response to David Pimentel Biodiesel Life Cycle Analysis *
* National Biodiesel Board
July 2005 *
 *Understanding the Life Cycle or "Well-to-Wheel" Concept*
When evaluating a fuel, many people often focus on the fuel's energy use or 
emissions only when it is burned or utilized in a vehicle engine. 
Consequently, too little attention is given to the technology or the 
infrastructure that helped create the fuel and delivered it to market. For 
example, fuels that show very low pollutant emissions from the vehicle may 
emit mightily during their production phases. Fuels very suitable for use in 
combustion engines may be difficult and costly to transport and store.

The effect of biodiesel on overall consumption of petroleum and other fossil 
fuels can only be understood in the context of biodiesel's "life cycle"—the 
sequence of steps involved in making and using the fuel from the extraction 
of all raw materials from the environment to the final end-use of the fuel 
in a diesel vehicle. The chain has five stages: feedstock production, 
feedstock transportation, fuel production, fuel distribution and, finally, 
vehicle use. 

The effect of biodiesel on overall consumption of petroleum and other fossil 
fuels can only be understood in the context of this fuel's energy balance, 
or "life cycle."

*Life Cycle Studies*
The U.S. Department of Energy and the U.S. Department of Agriculture have 
performed a life cycle study of the energy balance of biodiesel produced 
from soybeans in the U.S. This is the most comprehensive, credible and 
thoroughly peer reviewed study available on biodiesel produced from 
soybeans. Among its key findings: 
 
   - For every one unit of fossil energy used in this entire production 
   cycle, 3.2 unit of energy are gained when the fuel is burned, or a 
   positive energy balance of 320%. 
   - The energy balance for biodiesel produced from soybeans is so high 
   because the starting component, soybean oil, is already high in energy 
   content. Oils and fats are nature's preferred way to store high density 
   energy. 
   - This study started with bare soil and took into account all the 
   energy inputs associated with growing and harvesting soybeans: transporting 
   and processing the soybeans into oil and meal, transportation and production 
   of the soybean oil into biodiesel, and transportation of the biodiesel to 
   the end user. 

This study can be found at
www.nrel.gov/docs/legosti/fy98/24089.pdf
.

Additionally, the International Energy Agency recently conducted a review of 
several biofuel life cycle studies. The results of these studies all 
indicate that biodiesel has a very good fuel process energy efficiency 
rating. While these studies apply to biodiesel made from rapeseed and may 
differ slightly from soybean oil based biodiesel, they establish the fact 
that biodiesel has a positive energy balance.

Fuel production process efficiency is a measure of how much process fuel is 
required to grow crops, transport them to production plants, produce 
biodiesel and deliver it to refueling stations. Studies that estimate better 
process efficiencies are represented by a lower number in the table below. 

  
 *Feedstock *
 
*Fuel Process Energy 
Efficiency (energy in/out)*
 
*Net Energy 
Balance Conversion*
  GM et al., 2002 Rapeseed 

0.33
 
3.00 to 1
  Levington, 2000 Rapeseed 

0.40
 
2.50 to 1
  Altener, 1996 Rapeseed-a 

0.55
 
1.82 to 1
  Altener, 1996 Rapeseed-b 

0.41
 
2.44 to 1
  ETSU, 1996 Rapeseed 

0.82
 
1.22 to 1
  Levy, 1993 Rapeseed-a 

0.57
 
1.75 to 1
  Levy, 1993 Rapeseed-b 

0.52
 
1.92 to 1
  

Note: When a range of estimates is reported by a paper, "a" and "b" are 
shown in the feedstock column to reflects this. The inverse of fuel process 
production efficiency (1/fuel process production efficiency) is an 
approximation of the net energy balance.

*Response to Pimentel and Patzek Paper*
It is the National Biodiesel Board's position that the David Pimentel study, 
which claimed a negative energy balance for biodiesel, contains some serious 
flaws. This study cannot be deemed technically credible for the following 
reasons: 
 
   - *In general, the authors do not provide enough details in the paper 
   to determine how they reached their controversial conclusion*. Since 
   this result is the exception to the rule, scientific protocol would dictate 
   that the researchers provide a detailed description of their assumptions and 
   their data sources. However, their entire discussion on making biodiesel 
   from soybean oil was limited to one and a half pages. In contrast, a 1998 
   study conducted by the U.S. Department of Agriculture and the 
   Department of Energy called the *Life Cycle Inventory of Biodiesel and 
   Petroleum Diesel for Use in an Urban Bus* contained 286 pages of 
   charts, tables, detailed data descriptions, and an in-depth discussion of 
   the assumptions that were used to d

Re: [MBZ] Kaleb's relative?

[Royce Engler]

Oklahoma mahogany is the metal backing strip on the dash where the wood trim
strip is supposed to be...

Kinda like Oklahoma Chrome...known to most of us as Duct Tape 

Royce Engler
1985 300TD Turbo 265K



-Original Message-
From: TimothyPilgrim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 7:49 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Kaleb's relative?


I get the lift-piston, but what's with the Oklahoma Mohagany? That
wood looks normal to me.

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 7/21/05, Royce Engler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gotta be...didja see the Oklahoma Mahogany on the dash wood strips and the
> Oklahoma lift piston on the tailgate shot?  
>
> Royce Engler
> 1985 300TD Turbo 265K

Re: [MBZ] OkieAcres

[Royce Engler]

ROTFLMAO!!!

Royce Engler
1985 300TD Turbo 265K 



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Don
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 8:00 AM
To: Banned List; Mercedes mailing list
Subject: [MBZ] OkieAcres


http://monkeydyne.com/rmcs/opencomic.phtml?rowid=83823

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I don't even need the drum.

-

LT Don 
1977 Mercedes 240D (Slug) 
1972 Honda CB-500K

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Re: [MBZ] Bad Wheel Bearings?

[Potter, Tom E]

Check out these pages:

http://www.timken.com/products/bearings/techtips/tip7.asp

http://www.timken.com/products/bearings/techtips/PDFs/Vol6No3.pdf

http://www.timken.com/products/bearings/techtips/PDFs/Vol4No3.pdf

http://www.timken.com/industries/automotive/autoaftermarket/techtips/Aut
oTechTips_Vol1_Issue3.pdf


Thomas E. Potter
Telephone: (713) 215-2877
Fax: (713) 215-2551
Mobile: (832) 794-0536


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of dave walton
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 7:38 AM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bad Wheel Bearings?


How do you measure the play in a wheel bearing with a dial gauge? If
someone could describe it, or point to a link with pictures, that
would be great!
Sorry for such a basic question, but I got nowhere with Google.

Thanks

-Dave Walton
94 S350
99 E300


On 7/21/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> How do you know when the front wheel bearings need to be replaced?
> 
> Do they get noisy?
> Does it become impossible to adjust them within spec?
> Do they pit and fracture like a damaged bicycle bearing?
> Should you just replace them at some mileage interval?
> 
> An inquiring mind wants to know.
> 
> I?m on a campaign of cleaning and repacking those bearings in my
> ?fleet? as I replace front brakes.  But maybe I should be replacing
> some of these bearings.
> 
> When the dealer serviced my car, they would sometimes repack the front
> bearings and sometimes they would replace them.  I can?t figure out
how
> they decided.
> 
> Ned Kleinhenz
> ?95 E300D x2
> ?85 300D
> ?80 300TD
> 
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[MBZ] OkieAcres

[Don]

http://monkeydyne.com/rmcs/opencomic.phtml?rowid=83823

-- 
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I don't even need the drum.

-

LT Don 
1977 Mercedes 240D (Slug) 
1972 Honda CB-500K

Re: [MBZ] Bad Wheel Bearings?

[nkleinhenz]

Thanks to everybody for the replies.

I take away from this discussion:
The bearing should be replaced only if it is noisy and/or appears 
damaged upon inspection.
Otherwise, just keep it clean and packed with grease and it may run 
forever.


Ned Kleinhenz
'95 E300D green
'95 E300D silver
'85 300D  gray
'80 300TD white

Re: [MBZ] Kaleb's relative?

[TimothyPilgrim]

Rare? Cool, mine's got leather too.

I notice that his cargo nets on the seatbacks have the plastic
surround. Mine's a year older and has the crome surround. Is 1983 the
year they went to plastic then?

For $500 I wouldn't mind it for parts!

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 7/21/05, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm impressed - it has a rare LEATHER interior!
> 
> Too bad he's missing those two wood pieces and the description is so
> general, as it might be a nice car for someone but there's no way of
> knowing for sure.  It could do without the wheel well trim as well -
> looks quite tacky on this model

Re: [MBZ] Kaleb's relative?

[TimothyPilgrim]

I get the lift-piston, but what's with the Oklahoma Mohagany? That
wood looks normal to me.

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 7/21/05, Royce Engler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gotta be...didja see the Oklahoma Mahogany on the dash wood strips and the
> Oklahoma lift piston on the tailgate shot?  
> 
> Royce Engler
> 1985 300TD Turbo 265K

Re: [MBZ] Bad Wheel Bearings?

[dave walton]

How do you measure the play in a wheel bearing with a dial gauge? If
someone could describe it, or point to a link with pictures, that
would be great!
Sorry for such a basic question, but I got nowhere with Google.

Thanks

-Dave Walton
94 S350
99 E300


On 7/21/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> How do you know when the front wheel bearings need to be replaced?
> 
> Do they get noisy?
> Does it become impossible to adjust them within spec?
> Do they pit and fracture like a damaged bicycle bearing?
> Should you just replace them at some mileage interval?
> 
> An inquiring mind wants to know.
> 
> I?m on a campaign of cleaning and repacking those bearings in my
> ?fleet? as I replace front brakes.  But maybe I should be replacing
> some of these bearings.
> 
> When the dealer serviced my car, they would sometimes repack the front
> bearings and sometimes they would replace them.  I can?t figure out how
> they decided.
> 
> Ned Kleinhenz
> ?95 E300D x2
> ?85 300D
> ?80 300TD
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Bad Wheel Bearings?

[BenzBarn]

What's the dial indicator for? You guys go beyond dramatic..

Re: [MBZ] stick parts car

[Mitch Haley]

I was very close to bidding $50 on it when I noticed this:

located in Lambertville New Jersey


The "seller" is located here, about 100 miles from me:

Item location:  Holland, Michigan  United States

Re: [MBZ] Bad Wheel Bearings?

[DElliott%SWS]

Indications that bearings need to be replaced:

1. Mysterious vibration noise that gets louder every time you drive the
car.
2. Wheel may make a noise if rotated on lift.
3. Wheel may make more noise when turning while under way.

The longer you drive the car the more pronounced the indications.

Tools you may need are:

1.  Dial indicator with .0001 tolerance and magnetic base .
2. Cold Chisel
3. 3- Arm Puller
4. Gram Scale

I was able to borrow item 3 from Autozone with a deposit.
Many would argue that items 1 and 4 are essential.

Complete kits for around $40 per wheel.  Mobile 1 grease 10x less expensive
than MB Grease but lacks cool green color.

Regards,

Dan Elliott
300D-T 83kmi

Re: [MBZ] Bad Wheel Bearings?

[Barry Stark]

Mike -
Well, I'm gonna have to disagree a bit. That may be the case in your
experience, but over the years I have personally seen all of these bearing
failures. Folks don't always adjust bearings properly or use the right kind
or amount of lubricant. Some car owners don't know the meaning of a
maintenance schedule. Cars get in accidents that sometimes load parts beyond
normal limits. If someone is bookin' down the freeway and then stops the car
in deep water for a time, those nice warm bearings will not always be
protected from entrance of that nice cool water by a marginal grease seal.
You're only thinking of the best of times, and normal situations. Well I've
experienced bearings that have seen some of the not so good times too and
really been put to the task. :^O
Regardless of what a car has or has not gone through, these are truly
pictures of bearing failure modes, and if you see any of these conditions,
you should replace the bearings. FWIW all of the factory service manuals for
any of my GMC products (I buy factory manuals for all my cars) have included
pictures of bearing failure modes very similar to these, so I would assume
that they must not be all that rare. The fact is, that one should
periodically meticulously clean wheel bearings of all lube and dirt till
they are spotless, inspect them closely, then lube, assemble and adjust them
properly. If any of the bearings happen to have any of the pictured defects,
they would be replaced at that time. That's my story and I stickin' to it.
:^)

Barry

  -Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 1:04 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bad Wheel Bearings?


  In a message dated 7/21/2005 1:23:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
http://www.timken.com/products/bearings/services/valueadd/prevent.asp
  this site and the info in it is for really for industrial /very heavy duty
applications

   cars (even Mercedes Benzes)  simply do not and cannot be overloaded  to
the point that wheel bearings fail! ( things like spalling, Brinelling,Spall
propagated by hydraulic pressure ect  really never happen in automotive
circles  ( cars) these things happen usually to  something like a  real big
truck with solid tires  that has been overloaded  cars have suspensions that
soak up jolts ...no matter how big the pot hole  the bearings don't go...
the wheel/tire takes the damage

  even if you were able to overload a car ( lets say 4 cars on top of it)
the suspensions would give way  and  the brake system would not be able to
stop it  THE ONLY THINGthat we car ppl have to be concerned with is
improper installation ( I cant imagine how that would be possible) or lack
of lubricant .
   this is really nothing to worry about
  mike collins
  phila
  1985 500 sec

Re: [MBZ] You do not need this stuff

[Steve MacSween]

someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/85822843.html  --82 diesel volvo

Never a good sign when the first words in a car ad are "great tires"

Mac

Re: [MBZ] Unsubscribing [was: Re: FW: Today's Diesel Prices]

[Craig McCluskey]

On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 22:25:34 -0500 Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> For a moment there I thought Craig was leaving! 

Surely you jest! I'd have withdrawal symptoms big time!


Craig

Re: [MBZ] Unsubscribing [was: Re: FW: Today's Diesel Prices]

[Don]

For a moment there I thought Craig was leaving! 

On 7/21/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> 
> Craig McCluskey wrote:
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> >
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1977 Mercedes 240D (Slug) 
1972 Honda CB-500K

[MBZ] You do not need this stuff

[redghost]

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/86033062.html  --Saw this SL month 
ago on another lot.  Blew loads of oil out the back end.  Same price


http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/85695963.html  --87 124  $5k

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/85855309.html  --75 slc $5k

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/85822843.html  --82 diesel volvo

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/85771786.html  --69 MGC GT  $10k


not mine, not nobody I know

--
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Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA

[MBZ] stick parts car

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

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 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts

Re: [MBZ] Unsubscribing [was: Re: FW: Today's Diesel Prices]

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

See, I never have to say anything about these matters anymore, you fine 
folks do it for me!!


Craig McCluskey wrote:


On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 05:22:44 -0700 "fredrick c. woodland, jr."
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Please remove my name and my e-mail address from the Mercedes Benz
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Re: [MBZ] Ricardo Montalban

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

So tell us more about this article.

Dan Weeks wrote:

And it was "RICH Corinthian leather." I just did an article on him 
for a DiamlerChrysler publication.  I get odd looks when I show up to 
a DC new car unveiling in a 23-year-old old Benz, but so far no one 
has said anything. Perhaps their German bosses are listening...






That was Ricardo Montalban, another one of my favorite actors.

Kevin wrote:



On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 07:04:03PM -0500, Don wrote:



Your love of Shatner just lowers you down a notch or two.

THIS is MY Mercedes. CAN'T you just SEE how NICE the FACTORY leather IS!
[Spock should have killed him when he had the chance.]



Could be worse. At least mercedes didn't offer real corinthian leather.

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Re: [MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices

[Vernon Ritchey]

New perspective.  I live in Niceville, FL.  Maybe 30 miles from Dennis last 
week.  About 90% of the fuel for the region comes by barge and the storm 
really messed that up.  All local gas stations are out although a few get a 
truck load once in a while ... just look for the lines.  My real estate lady 
came in her hubby's pickup today because their other cars were on "E".  So 
for now, we are happy to get fuel at any price.  It's a different 
perspective.


Scott Ritchey
Niceville, FL
1982 300 SD 220K miles
1979 300 TD 350K miles


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Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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 On-highway diesel prices, by week and PADD
   (Self Service Cash Price in Dollars per Gallon, Including Taxes)

   Diesel Prices Web URL:
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/wohdp/diesel.asp


 US

NATL  EASTNEWCENTLOWER   GULF   ROCKY   WEST

DATEAVG   COAST ENGLAND   ATL ATL   MIDWEST  COAST   MTN   COAST
CA

  PADD   PADDPADDPADDPADDPADDPADD   PADD

I IA  IB  IC  II III  IV V

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050718  2.392  2.412  2.535   2.521   2.354   2.361   2.331  2.430  2.530
2.589
050711  2.408  2.427  2.533   2.524   2.377   2.384   2.355  2.408  2.526
2.589
050704  2.348  2.370  2.485   2.475   2.315   2.328   2.290  2.328  2.467
2.554
050627  2.336  2.368  2.476   2.461   2.318   2.314   2.288  2.288  2.433
2.522
050620  2.313  2.348  2.442   2.451   2.296   2.294   2.274  2.236  2.391
2.476
050613  2.276  2.308  2.399   2.399   2.261   2.248   2.247  2.210  2.364
2.457
050606  2.234  2.263  2.353   2.343   2.221   2.198   2.213  2.191  2.339
2.421
050530  2.160  2.188  2.320   2.284   2.134   2.111   2.117  2.179  2.317
2.367
050523  2.156  2.181  2.338   2.292   2.119   2.097   2.112  2.207  2.339
2.373
050516  2.189  2.204  2.380   2.315   2.141   2.129   2.141  2.267  2.397
2.432
050509  2.227  2.237  2.389   2.342   2.179   2.157   2.173  2.318  2.481
2.518
050502  2.262  2.264  2.410   2.366   2.207   2.194   2.209  2.355  2.530
2.561
050425  2.289  2.287  2.413   2.382   2.234   2.230   2.231  2.371  2.549
2.570
050418  2.259  2.260  2.418   2.373   2.197   2.194   2.180  2.379  2.554
2.582
050411  2.316  2.306  2.434   2.423   2.244   2.263   2.251  2.399  2.585
2.625
050404  2.303  2.299  2.427   2.412   2.238   2.258   2.240  2.361  2.541
2.581
050328  2.249  2.248  2.374   2.360   2.189   2.203   2.182  2.326  2.483
2.512
050321  2.244  2.245  2.355   2.358   2.186   2.196   2.180  2.313  2.471
2.482
050314  2.194  2.197  2.320   2.309   2.137   2.140   2.130  2.260  2.442
2.418
050307  2.168  2.163  2.288   2.280   2.102   2.113   2.100  2.229  2.450
2.408
050228  2.118  2.117  2.241   2.233   2.056   2.064   2.035  2.174  2.412
2.376
050221  2.020  2.027  2.198   2.154   1.957   1.953   1.943  2.087  2.321
2.259
050214  1.986  2.013  2.197   2.150   1.938   1.935   1.915  2.011  2.190
2.196
050207  1.983  2.025  2.222   2.159   1.950   1.938   1.938  1.967  2.113
2.144
050131  1.992  2.048  2.225   2.172   1.979   1.954   1.940  1.946  2.085
2.126
050124  1.959  2.014  2.180   2.140   1.945   1.928   1.919  1.884  2.027
2.068
050117  1.952  2.009  2.168   2.127   1.944   1.928   1.908  1.877  2.001
2.023
050110  1.934  1.999  2.163   2.133   1.926   1.911   1.876  1.877  1.973
2.014
050103  1.957  2.025  2.180   2.163   1.952   1.929   1.887  1.934  2.011
2.063
041227  1.987  2.045  2.196   2.161   1.982   1.959   1.928  1.961  2.040
2.097
041220  1.984  2.052  2.199   2.171   1.988   1.944   1.922  1.988  2.047
2.087
041213  1.997  2.063  2.206   2.184   1.998   1.953   1.910  2.049  2.097
2.138
041206  2.069  2.111  2.234   2.220   2.053   2.033   1.995  2.124  2.181
2.225
041129  2.116 

[MBZ] Unsubscribing [was: Re: FW: Today's Diesel Prices]

[Craig McCluskey]

On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 05:22:44 -0700 "fredrick c. woodland, jr."
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Please remove my name and my e-mail address from the Mercedes Benz
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[MBZ] Ricardo Montalban

[Dan Weeks]

And it was "RICH Corinthian leather." I just did an article on him 
for a DiamlerChrysler publication.  I get odd looks when I show up to 
a DC new car unveiling in a 23-year-old old Benz, but so far no one 
has said anything. Perhaps their German bosses are listening...





That was Ricardo Montalban, another one of my favorite actors.

Kevin wrote:


On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 07:04:03PM -0500, Don wrote:


Your love of Shatner just lowers you down a notch or two.

THIS is MY Mercedes. CAN'T you just SEE how NICE the FACTORY leather IS!
[Spock should have killed him when he had the chance.]



Could be worse. At least mercedes didn't offer real corinthian leather.

K

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Re: [MBZ] CamShaft Prelube necessary?

[Zeitgeist]

I've always coated my cam lobes with engine assembly grease for
startups, just for extra lube insurance--theoretically it sticks
around a bit longer than engine oil, but that's debatable.

On 7/21/05, dave walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm replacing the head gasket on my 94 S350. I see ads for Camshaft
> Prelube. Is the stuff necessary, or can I just bath everything in
> Mobil-1 before I button it up?
> 

Casey
Biodiesel:
'87 300TD intercooler (206k) 
'84 300D (202k)
Gashuffer:
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Re: [MBZ] Ah Canna Give her more poowr, Keptain! [OT]

[Don]

On 7/21/05, Jeff Zedic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Today's little trivia fact.Pamlea Anderson was famous right from birth!
> 
> She was the first baby born in our hundredth year1967!
> 
> She was in all the papers!
> 
> 
> Jeff Zedic
> Toronto
> 87 300TD
> 83 300D
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LT Don 
1977 Mercedes 240D (Slug) 
1972 Honda CB-500K

[MBZ] CamShaft Prelube necessary?

[dave walton]

I'm replacing the head gasket on my 94 S350. I see ads for Camshaft
Prelube. Is the stuff necessary, or can I just bath everything in
Mobil-1 before I button it up?

Thanks

-Dave Walton
94 S350
99 E300

Re: [MBZ] Ah Canna Give her more poowr, Keptain! [OT]

[Jeff Zedic]

Today's little trivia fact.Pamlea Anderson was famous right from birth!

She was the first baby born in our hundredth year1967!

She was in all the papers!


Jeff Zedic
Toronto
87 300TD
83 300D

Re: [MBZ] Ah Canna Give her more poowr, Keptain! [OT]

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

That was Ricardo Montalban, another one of my favorite actors.

Kevin wrote:


On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 07:04:03PM -0500, Don wrote:


Your love of Shatner just lowers you down a notch or two.

THIS is MY Mercedes. CAN'T you just SEE how NICE the FACTORY leather IS! 

[Spock should have killed him when he had the chance.] 



Could be worse. At least mercedes didn't offer real corinthian leather.

K

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Re: [MBZ] ot -- volvos -- was Re: '97 300D

[Steve MacSween]

someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Never driven a 740, but I drove a 940 as a loaner car once.  Nice car.
> It's no Mercedes, but it ain't bad.  I had a 240 wagon for a while and
> it was the most comfortable pickup truck I ever drove. ;)

Old Swedish joke: "Volvo -- Sweden's most luxurious tractors"

Often heard around SAAB dealers, probably not anymore.

Mac

Re: [MBZ] Ah Canna Give her more poowr, Keptain! [OT]

[Steve MacSween]

Used to be that many large employers, such as Hollywood and the high tech
industry, could pull strings to get Canadians contracted for extended
periods. Since nine-eleven this has been gradually shrivelling up. About two
years ago stories started appearing about Canadians who came home from U.S.
jobs for holidays, then were barred from reentry at the border on the
grounds that enough U.S. skilled labour exists to fill the jobs.

We're talking not even allowed to return to empty apartments and offices,
without legal intervention to secure a covenant to leave afterwards.

Tidbit: for decades, B-movies have traditionally been crewed by Canadians as
we are used to making do with nothing or with very low budgets, seeing as
our home grown film industry leaves much to be desired. Canucks were much in
demand due to our improvisational and cross-disciplinary capabilities
(A-movie sets are very strictly regimented trades wise).

Mac

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> As long as they choose to remain canuck, fine with me.  what are they
> thinking getting a green card?  They are stupid if they think being a
> citizen and getting involved in politics here is a sane thing to do.
> 
> BTW, Pammy Anderson looked much better fresh out of BC, instead of over
> stuffed.
> 
> great stuff comes out of the studios in Toronto and Vancouver.  Beats
> the fecal matter spewing out of L.A.
> 
> On Thursday, July 21, 2005, at 01:14 PM, Jeff Zedic wrote:
> 
>> Did you want to be even more amazed?? Do you realise how many current
>> Hollywood bozosI mean "stars" are Canadian?
>> 
>> Loads of 'em!!
>> 
>> Silly buggers couldn't get REAL jobs. (Alex Trebeck)
>> 
>> Jeff Zedic
>> Toronto
>> 87 300TD
>> 83 300D
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Re: [MBZ] Ah Canna Give her more poowr, Keptain! [OT]

[Kevin]

On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 07:04:03PM -0500, Don wrote:
> Your love of Shatner just lowers you down a notch or two.
> 
> THIS is MY Mercedes. CAN'T you just SEE how NICE the FACTORY leather IS! 
> 
> [Spock should have killed him when he had the chance.] 

Could be worse. At least mercedes didn't offer real corinthian leather.

K

Re: [MBZ] '97 300D

[BenzBarn]

Yeah, mine has a '' slightly '' modified 250 engine.  About 185 PSI
compression, not sure about HP.  Will do over 130MPH.

Re: [MBZ] Space shuttle grease

[Bucks2]

You ABSOLUTELY must use the CORRECT grease or the world as we know it WILL 
cease to exist. The specification is YMR 6992.345 for wheel bearing grease 
because the metal is different in MB than anything else. WHY do you think the 
SHUTTLE exploded? Wrong grease OF COURSE.

Just poking a little a little fun because it's been a long day. I hope the 
night goes better.

Ken



In a message dated 7/21/2005 1:04:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Should you just replace them at some mileage  interval?
on my cars i have never replaced the front bearings  all of my  cars are 15 
years or older and are around 150,000 miles
however each time the front brakes are replaced the wheel bearings  must be 
repacked with grease and ( oh boy here we go  on a long diatribe on  using 
some kinda super duper Mercedes grease.. because god only knows  why!)
it does not matter whos name is on the grease any e.p. wheel  bearing  
grease (for disk brakes) will do ...clean the old stuff off and  repack the 
new 
stuff these  cars aint the space shuttle  folks

Re: [MBZ] Another Assplode in London [OT]

[redghost]

I think reverting to archaic punishment for the deed may be in order.  
Drawing and quartering in a public square?  Hot poker in the pooper, 
then impale them along the via publica?


On Thursday, July 21, 2005, at 03:45 PM, Jeff Zedic wrote:

The "explosions" today in London were just detonators that some 
asswipes

had set off to scare the bejeesus out of people, according to the BBC.

Apparently it did the job.

Police have arrested two and have strong leads on the other four.

Idiots.

Jeff Zedic
Toronto
87 300TD
83 300D

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Re: [MBZ] '97 300D

[redghost]

I covet the 250sl 5 speed.  For some reason the 280sl seems too large.  
Must be in my mind


On Thursday, July 21, 2005, at 02:32 PM, BenzBarn wrote:


Too bad.  113's are lots of fun.
 I have a 230SL 5 speed well known as the  '' Red Rocket. ''


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Re: [MBZ] Ah Canna Give her more poowr, Keptain! [OT]

[redghost]

Something in the water up there must produce bodacious babes.  The 
fellows are sort of odd, in a midwestern manner.  Inbred farmers?  No 
real explanation for the women.  Maybe the hot ones get kicked out?




On Thursday, July 21, 2005, at 01:20 PM, TimothyPilgrim wrote:


There are more foreigners in Hollywood than most Americans realize I
think. Maybe the more educated know this, like members on this list...

A good part of the Simpson's writing team is Canadian too.

Tim



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Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA

Re: [MBZ] Ah Canna Give her more poowr, Keptain! [OT]

[redghost]

As long as they choose to remain canuck, fine with me.  what are they 
thinking getting a green card?  They are stupid if they think being a 
citizen and getting involved in politics here is a sane thing to do.


BTW, Pammy Anderson looked much better fresh out of BC, instead of over 
stuffed.


great stuff comes out of the studios in Toronto and Vancouver.  Beats 
the fecal matter spewing out of L.A.


On Thursday, July 21, 2005, at 01:14 PM, Jeff Zedic wrote:


Did you want to be even more amazed?? Do you realise how many current
Hollywood bozosI mean "stars" are Canadian?

Loads of 'em!!

Silly buggers couldn't get REAL jobs. (Alex Trebeck)

Jeff Zedic
Toronto
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83 300D

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Re: [MBZ] Ah Canna Give her more poowr, Keptain! [OT]

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Well I dont know about that

Zeitgeist wrote:


He's an even BETTER singer!!

On 7/21/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Shatner is an excellent actor, in fact, he is my favorite.



Casey
Biodiesel:
'87 300TD intercooler (206k) 
'84 300D (202k)

Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (184k)
Olympia, WA

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Re: [MBZ] Ah Canna Give her more poowr, Keptain! [OT]

[Mitch Haley]

Zeitgeist wrote:
> 
> He's an even BETTER singer!!

Naw, Nimoy's better than Shatner. ;-)
(truthfully, I'd rather listen to Loudon Wainright III sing
about a "dead skunk in the road" than listen to either trekker rap)

Re: [MBZ] Ah Canna Give her more poowr, Keptain! [OT]

[Zeitgeist]

He's an even BETTER singer!!

On 7/21/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Shatner is an excellent actor, in fact, he is my favorite.

Casey
Biodiesel:
'87 300TD intercooler (206k) 
'84 300D (202k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (184k)
Olympia, WA

Re: [MBZ] Ah Canna Give her more poowr, Keptain! [OT]

[John Ervine]

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


Shatner is an excellent actor, in fact, he is my favorite.


He was particularly stunning in "Kingdom of the Spiders".

--
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1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi
1980 300TD 167+kmi
1980 300SD 277+kmi