Re: [MBZ] name calling...

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

You have to be nice.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Aw man you're screwing with my funnin of Gabriel. He's telling us how "old" 
he is because he was on the "old" list. This one's been functioning for what, 6 
months, and he says: "Actually i've been on this list for a while now".  I'm 
guessing he doesn't know who Kathy Kennel was or any of the real old timers. 
Or why we split from the MBCA list when the commandos came into power. 

Do I really have to be nice, or can I just poke sticks at him til he charges 
the side of the cage again?


Ken

In a message dated 9/30/2005 4:27:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 



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Re: [MBZ] battery age

[Chuck Landenberger]

YUP!

On Sep 30, 2005, at 4:46 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote:


Chuck mentioned:

" you have a battery failure, call 1-800-MERCEDES and they will
 bring a new battery to you.  Then remove the old one and install a
 new one.  The charge is ONLY for the battery NO labor charge.
 BTDT!"


Certainly that doesn't apply to old cars like our, does it?

Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 141K
LP, AZ


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Re: [MBZ] battery age

[Chuck Landenberger]

Yes, young man..

Any model, any year and quite frankly, I believe anywhere in the US!   
As long as you are the owner of a Mercedes-Benz, just give them the  
car's VIN.


Recently used it on my trip east.  In West Memphis, called and got a  
flatbed sent to take me to the local dealer to replace a failed  
vacuum pump on my 1980 300SD..


Chuck
Phoenix, AZ
On Sep 30, 2005, at 4:47 PM, Gabriel S. wrote:


Any model? any year? any (reasonable) area?

On 9/30/05, Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



John,

If you have a battery failure, call 1-800-MERCEDES and they will
bring a new battery to you. Then remove the old one and install a
new one. The charge is ONLY for the battery NO labor charge.
BTDT!

So, don't go to the dealer let them come to you...

Take care,

Chuck
Phoenix AZ
On Sep 30, 2005, at 10:41 AM, John M McIntosh wrote:



I have heard lately of batteries pushing 7-8+ years, but me thinks
I'll wander down to my dealer and replace it this week.



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Re: [MBZ] name calling...

[Bucks2]

Aw man you're screwing with my funnin of Gabriel. He's telling us how "old" 
he is because he was on the "old" list. This one's been functioning for what, 6 
months, and he says: "Actually i've been on this list for a while now".  I'm 
guessing he doesn't know who Kathy Kennel was or any of the real old timers. 
Or why we split from the MBCA list when the commandos came into power. 

Do I really have to be nice, or can I just poke sticks at him til he charges 
the side of the cage again?

Ken

In a message dated 9/30/2005 4:27:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] name calling...
To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed

Well this list is really the latest and newest "version of all the old 
lists.  It seemed to start with the MBCA list and the realtime list and 
has sort of evolved from that to mbz.org and now to this.  I would sort 
of say its really just one list the whole time since its the people that 
make up the list.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Which old one? MBCA? Kathy? LL? This group of people has been on a number 
of 
> lists. 
> 
> Ken 
> 
> In a message dated 9/30/2005 8:07:54 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> From: "Gabriel S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] name calling...
> To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Message-ID:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> Actually i've been on this list for a while now...started on the old
> one...im kind of tired of debating the autobahn against 10 babies, i think
> i'll stop now.
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Re: [MBZ] battery age

[Gabriel S.]

Any model? any year? any (reasonable) area?

On 9/30/05, Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> John,
>
> If you have a battery failure, call 1-800-MERCEDES and they will
> bring a new battery to you. Then remove the old one and install a
> new one. The charge is ONLY for the battery NO labor charge.
> BTDT!
>
> So, don't go to the dealer let them come to you...
>
> Take care,
>
> Chuck
> Phoenix AZ
> On Sep 30, 2005, at 10:41 AM, John M McIntosh wrote:
>
> > I have heard lately of batteries pushing 7-8+ years, but me thinks
> > I'll wander down to my dealer and replace it this week.
>
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Re: [MBZ] battery age

[Bob Rentfro]

Chuck mentioned: 

" you have a battery failure, call 1-800-MERCEDES and they will  
bring a new battery to you.  Then remove the old one and install a  
new one.  The charge is ONLY for the battery NO labor charge. 
BTDT!"



Certainly that doesn't apply to old cars like our, does it? 


Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 141K
LP, AZ

Re: [MBZ] "old lists" was: name calling...

[Gabriel S.]

i stopped because it got old.

On 9/30/05, Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Kaleb,
>
> Now that your power has been demonstrated, could you talk to the oil
> companies about reducing pump prices
>
> Take care,
>
> Chuck
> Phoenix AZ
> On Sep 30, 2005, at 4:39 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>
> > Its amazing what my power of persuasion can do
> >
> > Bob Rentfro wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Isn't that kinda slick how we got rid of that nasty name calling
> >> thread?
> >>
> >> Bob Rentfro
> >> '77 300D
> >> LP, AZ
> >>
> >> -
> >>
> > --
> > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
> > 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
> > 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
> > 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] Wanted: W201 (190D/E) body donor.

[Gabriel S.]

how did you wreck her?

On 9/30/05, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have a wrecked 1987 190Dt and need a good body/interior to assemble it
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> Does anybody have a bad engine 190D or 190E they want to sell, hopefully
> near Michigan?
> I'd love a 5 sp, but that isn't necessary. (the wreck is auto, and I'd
> like to
> convert to stick shift)
>
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] "old lists" was: name calling...

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Yes, I will call them right now, expect pump prices to be around .89 
tomorrow.


Chuck Landenberger wrote:


Kaleb,

Now that your power has been demonstrated, could you talk to the oil  
companies about reducing pump prices


Take care,

Chuck
Phoenix AZ
On Sep 30, 2005, at 4:39 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:



Its amazing what my power of persuasion can do

Bob Rentfro wrote:



Isn't that kinda slick how we got rid of that nasty name calling  
thread?


Bob Rentfro
'77 300D
LP, AZ

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 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] "old lists" was: name calling...

[Chuck Landenberger]

Kaleb,

Now that your power has been demonstrated, could you talk to the oil  
companies about reducing pump prices


Take care,

Chuck
Phoenix AZ
On Sep 30, 2005, at 4:39 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


Its amazing what my power of persuasion can do

Bob Rentfro wrote:


Isn't that kinda slick how we got rid of that nasty name calling  
thread?


Bob Rentfro
'77 300D
LP, AZ

-


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  89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
  85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
  76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] battery age

[Chuck Landenberger]

John,

If you have a battery failure, call 1-800-MERCEDES and they will  
bring a new battery to you.  Then remove the old one and install a  
new one.  The charge is ONLY for the battery NO labor charge. 
BTDT!


So, don't go to the dealer let them come to you...

Take care,

Chuck
Phoenix AZ
On Sep 30, 2005, at 10:41 AM, John M McIntosh wrote:


I have heard lately of batteries pushing 7-8+ years, but me thinks
I'll wander down to my dealer and replace it this week.

Re: [MBZ] "old lists" was: name calling...

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Its amazing what my power of persuasion can do

Bob Rentfro wrote:


Isn't that kinda slick how we got rid of that nasty name calling thread?

Bob Rentfro
'77 300D
LP, AZ

-

--
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 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts

Re: [MBZ] "old lists" was: name calling...

[Bob Rentfro]

Isn't that kinda slick how we got rid of that nasty name calling thread?

Bob Rentfro
'77 300D
LP, AZ

- Original Message - 
From: "Chuck Landenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 4:26 PM
Subject: [MBZ] "old lists" was: name calling...



Count me as one of the "twenty or so"

Take care,

Chuck
Phoenix AZ
1980 300SD

On Sep 30, 2005, at 4:16 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote:


Ken remarked:

"Which old one? MBCA? Kathy? LL? This group of people has been on a  
number

of
 lists"

I bet that there would be only twenty or so people on the list  
presently who

remember all those old lists.

Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 141K
Litchfield park, AZ


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Re: [MBZ] Compression ratio

[Peter Frederick]

No, the turbo increases the pressure of the charge, not the actual 
compression ratio.  It does, however, raise the "effective compression 
ratio" -- probably to about 40:1 at full load.  The mechanical 
compression ratio is fixed.


Peter

Re: [MBZ] name calling...

[Bob Rentfro]

AYE...all of them..

Bo Rentfro
'77 300D 141K
LP, AZ

- Original Message - 
From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] name calling...



Lets see, anybody who was on those old lists say AYE

Bob Rentfro wrote:


Ken remarked:

"Which old one? MBCA? Kathy? LL? This group of people has been on a 
number

of
 lists"

I bet that there would be only twenty or so people on the list presently 
who

remember all those old lists.

Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 141K
Litchfield park, AZ


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[MBZ] "old lists" was: name calling...

[Chuck Landenberger]

Count me as one of the "twenty or so"

Take care,

Chuck
Phoenix AZ
1980 300SD

On Sep 30, 2005, at 4:16 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote:


Ken remarked:

"Which old one? MBCA? Kathy? LL? This group of people has been on a  
number

of
 lists"

I bet that there would be only twenty or so people on the list  
presently who

remember all those old lists.

Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 141K
Litchfield park, AZ


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Re: [MBZ] name calling...

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Lets see, anybody who was on those old lists say AYE

Bob Rentfro wrote:


Ken remarked:

"Which old one? MBCA? Kathy? LL? This group of people has been on a number 
of

 lists"

I bet that there would be only twenty or so people on the list presently who 
remember all those old lists.


Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 141K
Litchfield park, AZ


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Re: [MBZ] name calling...

[Bob Rentfro]

Ken remarked:

"Which old one? MBCA? Kathy? LL? This group of people has been on a number 
of

lists"

I bet that there would be only twenty or so people on the list presently who 
remember all those old lists.


Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 141K
Litchfield park, AZ

Re: [MBZ] name calling...

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Well this list is really the latest and newest "version of all the old 
lists.  It seemed to start with the MBCA list and the realtime list and 
has sort of evolved from that to mbz.org and now to this.  I would sort 
of say its really just one list the whole time since its the people that 
make up the list.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Which old one? MBCA? Kathy? LL? This group of people has been on a number of 
lists. 

Ken 

In a message dated 9/30/2005 8:07:54 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] name calling...
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Actually i've been on this list for a while now...started on the old
one...im kind of tired of debating the autobahn against 10 babies, i think
i'll stop now.
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Re: [MBZ] I love my car

[Bob Rentfro]

It seems 240Ds are quite the chick magnets...


Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 141K (chicks could care less)
Litchfield Park, AZ


- Original Message - 
From: "Curt Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 3:26 PM
Subject: [MBZ] I love my car


So Hammie's starter is on its way out. Actually truth be told the solenoid 
is on its way out but lets not quibble. When the engine and by relation 
the starter itself is hot the solenoid won't engage, you turn the key and 
get nada.
So I've got a week off coming up and I'm thinking thats a great time to 
ship him off to my Indy since I'll be off to camp with the pickup truck. 
Since I generally only go to and from work and 2 hours seems to be plenty 
of time for a cool down I've just been watching where I park so just in 
case I'll have somewhere to roll and get started (the wonder of the 4spd 
manual). So today on my way home I had to get a present for my wife as 
today is our anniversary.
Anyway this one place has a pretty good slope but as I was coasting my car 
was like a magnet for people to jump out in front of and I found myself at 
the bottom with no momentum.
So I was noodling around under the hood trying the screwdriver trick and 
found there was no way I could get the screwdriver across both contacts at 
the same time, ARRRGGHHH!
Then this pretty young woman pulls up in an old Suzuki and asked me if I 
needed help, she seemed interested so I explained the situation. She 
suggested we push (240D remember) the car up the hill again...
I really don't know how we managed it, she's not a big girl and I'm not in 
any kind of shape. Anyway we get to the top with my lungs on fire. I told 
her to get in, gave her the scoop on what we're doing and we'll go. The 
look on her face was priceless... My logic is that I'm big so maybe I'll 
be able to get the car moving faster quicker. Whatever, it worked, Hammie 
started and she didn't steal him. I tried to give her ten bucks, she 
EARNED it but she wouldn't take it.


People with Honda's that never break down never get to have pretty girls 
push their car up a hill to get it started...


-Curt
'83 240D "Hammie" 246kmi -who may have just earned himself some much 
needed attention.



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[MBZ] I love my car

[Curt Raymond]

So Hammie's starter is on its way out. Actually truth be told the solenoid is 
on its way out but lets not quibble. When the engine and by relation the 
starter itself is hot the solenoid won't engage, you turn the key and get nada.
So I've got a week off coming up and I'm thinking thats a great time to ship 
him off to my Indy since I'll be off to camp with the pickup truck. Since I 
generally only go to and from work and 2 hours seems to be plenty of time for a 
cool down I've just been watching where I park so just in case I'll have 
somewhere to roll and get started (the wonder of the 4spd manual). So today on 
my way home I had to get a present for my wife as today is our anniversary.
Anyway this one place has a pretty good slope but as I was coasting my car was 
like a magnet for people to jump out in front of and I found myself at the 
bottom with no momentum.
So I was noodling around under the hood trying the screwdriver trick and found 
there was no way I could get the screwdriver across both contacts at the same 
time, ARRRGGHHH!
Then this pretty young woman pulls up in an old Suzuki and asked me if I needed 
help, she seemed interested so I explained the situation. She suggested we push 
(240D remember) the car up the hill again...
I really don't know how we managed it, she's not a big girl and I'm not in any 
kind of shape. Anyway we get to the top with my lungs on fire. I told her to 
get in, gave her the scoop on what we're doing and we'll go. The look on her 
face was priceless... My logic is that I'm big so maybe I'll be able to get the 
car moving faster quicker. Whatever, it worked, Hammie started and she didn't 
steal him. I tried to give her ten bucks, she EARNED it but she wouldn't take 
it.
 
People with Honda's that never break down never get to have pretty girls push 
their car up a hill to get it started...
 
-Curt
'83 240D "Hammie" 246kmi -who may have just earned himself some much needed 
attention.


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Which old one? MBCA? Kathy? LL? This group of people has been on a number of 
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Ken 

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Actually i've been on this list for a while now...started on the old
one...im kind of tired of debating the autobahn against 10 babies, i think
i'll stop now.

[MBZ] Wanted: W201 (190D/E) body donor.

[Mitch Haley]

I have a wrecked 1987 190Dt and need a good body/interior to assemble it in.
Does anybody have a bad engine 190D or 190E they want to sell, hopefully near 
Michigan?
I'd love a 5 sp, but that isn't necessary. (the wreck is auto, and I'd like to
convert to stick shift) 

Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] Autobahn vs. USA

[Ed Booher]

More pubs than Wisconsin!? That's unpossible! Just ask Lewis Black,
he'll tell you. Wisconsin gets federal subsidy to drink!

On 9/30/05, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> IIRC, Dave M lives in Idaho (Boise?). My only firsthand experience with ID
> is from three short trips, two of which were to Boise. Boise is very
> civilized - there are more brew pubs and restaurants per capita than
> anyplace else in the USA. Way to go, Dave M.
>
>
>  On 9/30/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > 12 steps and one day at a time. Recovery from Californiaism takes time?
> >
> > Ken
> >
> > In a message dated 9/29/2005 5:45:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > From: dave walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Autobahn vs. USA
> > To: "Gabriel S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mercedes mailing list
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> > Spending the last 40+ years in the Midwest has helped my return to
> > normalcy.
> > I'm still not there yet.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Anybody in Indianapolis?

[Ed Booher]

Always good to see more people stuck in Purgatory ... err ... Indy
with me. Sorry I don't have an oak tree for you to use though.

On 9/30/05, Rick Knoble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All,
> I have to deliver a Chevy engine and trans to Indy tomorrow. The guy is 
> coming up to meet me from Tennessee, so we will have to swap the powertrain 
> from the bed of one truck to the other. Does anyone have a cherrry-picker, or 
> chainfall/oak tree in the Indy area?
> Thanks,
> Rick Knoble
> 1985 300 CD
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[MBZ] Glass

[RELNGSON]

<>>

Windshield damage is directly related to how much debris is on the roads one 
drives on. In my area, the freeways are not very clean and traffic is heavy 
and fast, much of the time. And so my car's original glass had a couple of 
small 
stars and a lot of sandblasting. And, since I had not put in a windshield 
claim in nearly four years I decided it was time. Cost me my $100 deductible. 
So 
far, the PPG glass is in pretty good shape but I do admit that I avoid 
following large trucks too closely and try to get by them quickly.

As to "classics" and collector cars, I include my own W203 on the list of 
"no, it isn't."

RLE

[MBZ] Sensor in Injection Pump '90 300D

[John Peterson]

I've been trying to diagnose a loss in boost in my '90 300D.  I brought it 
to the indie who found that (1) a vacuum tranducer is out and (2) he thinks 
a sensor on the injection pump is giving no electronic signal to the ECU. 
He says a 2k injection pump is necessary.


Is there any more economical way of changing this sensor?  Rebuilt IP? 
Seems hard to believe it would be so buried inside that it can't be replaced 
if necessary.


Thanks Friends!

John Peterson
Kingston RI
1990 300D 2.5 127k
1991 300D 2.5 72k

[MBZ] OT: Anybody in Indianapolis?

[Rick Knoble]

Hi All,
I have to deliver a Chevy engine and trans to Indy tomorrow. The guy is coming 
up to meet me from Tennessee, so we will have to swap the powertrain from the 
bed of one truck to the other. Does anyone have a cherrry-picker, or 
chainfall/oak tree in the Indy area?
Thanks,
Rick Knoble
1985 300 CD
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Wilton,

Did they still charge you the deductible? 

Jerry (USAA since 5/66)


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Subject: [MBZ] Wndshld

USAA replaced my wndshld 'cause it was unsafe - glare in rain, night, sun.
Installer processed claim.  I should have done it yrs earlier.

Wilton

Re: [MBZ] steering shock and center drag link

[Craig McCluskey]

On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 13:54:05 -0400 andrew strasfogel
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Steering dampener reduces play; replacement of a worn dampener results
> in noticeably less "active" or "twitchy" steering. Well worth the $50
> bucks and VERY easy to replace (I know because I did it twice under
> minimal supervision).

The steering damper is easier than the drag link to replace, though IIRC
the drag line should not be difficult for DIY.

Rust on the nuts and threads holding the drag link could cause problems.
You could avoid that by taking the drag link and steering damper to an
alignment shop when you are having an alignment done.


Craig

[MBZ] Wndshld

[Wilton Strickland]

USAA replaced my wndshld 'cause it was unsafe - glare in rain, night, sun.
Installer processed claim.  I should have done it yrs earlier.

Wilton

Re: [MBZ] steering shock and center drag link

[dieselbenz24]

 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
> While getting my recent state inspection the guy said that I needed a new 
> steering shock and center drag link. Do these commonly wear out with a car of 
> this age ? The steering shock sounds more like a comfort item and the car 
> seems to drive fine.
> They want $100 for center drag link and $50 for steering shock.
 
>Marshall:
 
>Yes, those commonly wear out BEFORE most cars reach 23 years of age!
>The prices seem modest.
 
 
Are these relatively easy DIY jobs, not requiring special tools ?  Should they 
need to be fixed to pass a state inspection ?
 
TIA,
 
Regards To All,
 
Dan Elliott
82 300D-T 86kmi
 
 

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Re: [MBZ] steering shock and center drag link

[andrew strasfogel]

Steering dampener reduces play; replacement of a worn dampener results in
noticeably less "active" or "twitchy" steering. Well worth the $50 bucks and
VERY easy to replace (I know because I did it twice under minimal
supervision).

On 9/30/05, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 11:29:51 -0400 Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > Hello All,
> > >
> > > While getting my recent state inspection the guy said that I needed a
> > > new steering shock and center drag link. Do these commonly wear out
> > > with a car of this age ? The steering shock sounds more like a
> > > comfort item and the car seems to drive fine.
>
> The steering shock reduces wear on some steering parts by reducing
> vibration. I replaced ours and am glad I did.
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] What's special about a 190Dt?

[Gabriel S.]

What about acceleration? My guy in my neighborhood has a blue one and a
matching blue 87 300d sitting in his driveway...hasn't moved it in a while
but has some badges on the grill...i've been thinking about buying it
lately...is ths AC just as problem prone as an 87300d?

On 9/29/05, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Peter Frederick wrote:
> > It goes like a bat out of the bad place and gets excellent milage.
> > What's more to want? It's faster than an 87 300D!
>
> Not faster than an '87 300D (205km/hr) or 300TD (195 km/hr)!
>
> 190D 2.5 turbo 201.128 (190 km/hr)
>
> Marshall
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> 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi
>
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Re: [MBZ] Autobahn vs. USA

[andrew strasfogel]

IIRC, Dave M lives in Idaho (Boise?). My only firsthand experience with ID
is from three short trips, two of which were to Boise. Boise is very
civilized - there are more brew pubs and restaurants per capita than
anyplace else in the USA. Way to go, Dave M.


 On 9/30/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 12 steps and one day at a time. Recovery from Californiaism takes time?
>
> Ken
>
> In a message dated 9/29/2005 5:45:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> From: dave walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Autobahn vs. USA
> To: "Gabriel S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mercedes mailing list
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> In the interest of full disclosure, I have to admit that I was born
> and raised in LA.
> Spending the last 40+ years in the Midwest has helped my return to
> normalcy.
> I'm still not there yet.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Ham station for sale

[Michael Baker]

Craig, thanks for translating.

At 10:15 AM 9/30/05, you wrote:

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Michael Baker
Marketing Consulting & Communications
P. O. Box 1615
Running Springs, CA 92382-1615
909-867-5960
www.idm-marketing.com 

[MBZ] battery age

[John M McIntosh]

In the 92 300TDt I've a nice "new" looking monster battery, a 100Ah  
varta, the same as in the other two cars, except those ones are new  
because I bought them last year.


Earlier this week as I'm out starting it up, and thumping the seat  
heaters on and watching them flash to indicate low voltage I'm really  
wondering
how old is that battery in the wagon? So I looked around, nada a  
clue, but there is a serial number burned into the plastic,

so on the varta-automotive.de site found an email link:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Via that I asked, and wonder of wonders got a reply in a few hours  
and was told the battery was made in 1998.

Which means it could be upwards of 7 years old.

I have heard lately of batteries pushing 7-8+ years, but me thinks  
I'll wander down to my dealer and replace it this week.  My wife has
twice experienced battery failure on the highway in our former 89  
300TE would not like to encounter any more of those...  Or so I have  
been TOLD...



John
1983 300TDt  358k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1992 300TDt  148k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1993 500SEL 168k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40)

Re: [MBZ] steering shock and center drag link

[Craig McCluskey]

On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 11:29:51 -0400 Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hello All,
> >  
> > While getting my recent state inspection the guy said that I needed a
> > new steering shock and center drag link.  Do these commonly wear out
> > with a car of this age ?  The steering shock sounds more like a
> > comfort item and the car seems to drive fine.

The steering shock reduces wear on some steering parts by reducing
vibration. I replaced ours and am glad I did.


Craig

Re: [MBZ] OT: Ham station for sale

[Craig McCluskey]

On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 21:33:26 -0700 Michael Baker
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What's up with the ham station for sale? I'm not real keen on 
> downloading a batch file.

With Linux, I'm not afraid of a batch file. It says,

** I am getting out of Ham-ing.
   I have a complete station for sale. HF, 144/440 mobile,  
144/440 HT, antennas, etc, etc, etc. will sell one item or all. 
For a complete list write me at  [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put "Ham list"
in the subject lineDO NOT WRITE ME HERE ON THE LIST.

  
Walt Lasher KG7SZ
Seattle
'92  W140-1B  
S350

Re: [MBZ] What's special about a 190Dt?

[Zeitgeist]

I'll bet that little chassis "feels" faster though.  I really drool at
the prospect of getting my hands on a W201 2.5t someday. It strikes me
as a fitting companion to my equally rare TD.

On 9/29/05, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Peter Frederick wrote:
> > It goes like a bat out of the bad place and gets excellent milage.
> > What's more to want?  It's faster than an 87 300D!
>
> Not faster than an '87 300D (205km/hr) or 300TD (195 km/hr)!
>
> 190D 2.5 turbo 201.128 (190 km/hr)

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel:
'87 300TD intercooler (209k)
'84 300D (204k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (185K)

Re: [MBZ] steering shock and center drag link

[Rusty Cullens]

Try http://www.BuyMBparts.com

Lots cheaper, OE quality

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Hello All,
 
While getting my recent state inspection the guy said that I needed a
new steering shock and center drag link.  Do these commonly wear out
with a car of this age ?  The steering shock sounds more like a comfort
item and the car seems to drive fine.
 
They want $100 for center drag link and $50 for steering shock.
 
Any insight would be appreciated,
 
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Re: [MBZ] Is glass....glass?

[Curt Raymond]

A note on this. I got a new windshield last fall when the guy trying to change 
the seal broke the windshield. He took FOREVER like 3 weeks to get the job done 
and ended up just charging me his cost which IIRC was about $250.

Today I was driving to work and out of curiosity wondered what kind of cheapo 
crap I'd gotten. Imagine my surprise to see its a Pilkington.

 

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It was rather amusing though.

Most people around here pull off to the side of the road to change a flat or
call CAA, cars whipping by at 70 MPH.  In the big cities you don't stop for
anything if you can still move or you're toast.

Any car can stop or brake down for any reason and I find more new cars
abandoned on the side of the road than anything else, but I do see the odd
old beater too. Not always that safe on the side of the road - most people
won't stop for you unless it's a 2 lane highway.

We had a cop killed near here when she pulled a car over on the 401 near
Chatham Ont.  Someone ran right over her standing beside the car.
Definitely a dangerous job, but that was just stupid.

Re: [MBZ] Compression ratio

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

The ratio is not possible to change, its a fixed amount.  The ratio 22:1 
means that when the piston is at the bottom of the stroke it moves up 
and compresses that amount of "space" into the "1" so to speak.  Its 
determined by the stroke.


Gabriel S. wrote:


the compression ratio remains constant even in a turbo charged engine?
Doesent a Turbo do just that...increase the compression ratio?

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I noticed that my car manual states that the compression ration is


22:1...is


this when the engine is idle or at full boost?


Compression ratio is just that, a ratio. It remains constant at all
operating ranges.

Mac


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[MBZ] Sources for engines?

[Craig McCluskey]

My brother has a 300CD with a 617.912 and writes,

   I am starting to look around for sources for a replacement engine for
   our Benz or having the current engine rebuilt.  Is there anything I
   should watch out for?  The engine is a 5 cylinder non turbo diesel. 
   Thanks for your assistance.


Any suggestions?


Thanks,


Craig

[MBZ] Stability Control?

[dave walton]

The 99 E-Class came standard with traction control (except 4-matic)
and shows "Stability Control" as an option on the E300 and E320.
Anyone know how to tell if a car has the Stability Control option by
looking at it?

Thanks

-Dave Walton


On 9/30/05, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hello All,
> >
> > While getting my recent state inspection the guy said that I needed a new 
> > steering shock and center drag link.  Do these commonly wear out with a car 
> > of this age ?  The steering shock sounds more like a comfort item and the 
> > car seems to drive fine.
> >
> > They want $100 for center drag link and $50 for steering shock.
>
> Yes, those commonly wear out BEFORE most cars reach 23 years of age!
>
> The prices seem modest.
>
> Marshall
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[MBZ] happy moose day

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Re: [MBZ] Compression ratio

[Steve MacSween]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Marshall already answered, but to take it from another angle, the function
> of the turbo on a gas or diesel car is to increase the volume of air being
> inhaled by the motor during the intake stroke... with a greater volume of
> air

CORRECTION: I meant to say QUANTITY not volume. Sorry for the confusion.

Better have that third coffee now.

Mac

Re: [MBZ] Compression ratio

[Steve MacSween]

Marshall already answered, but to take it from another angle, the function
of the turbo on a gas or diesel car is to increase the volume of air being
inhaled by the motor during the intake stroke... with a greater volume of
air you can increase the amount of fuel being injected, thus producing a
more powerful combustion reaction and more horsepower from the same
displacement.

Turbodiesel engines are actually more efficient than 'straight' diesels, and
(assuming all is well with the component parts involved) burn cleaner.

However, the compression ratio does not change with the change in the
'charge air' being forced into the combustion chamber. All engines have
different volumes of air in the chamber, at different points in the
intake/combustion/exhaust cycles.

Mac

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> the compression ratio remains constant even in a turbo charged engine?
> Doesent a Turbo do just that...increase the compression ratio?
> 
> On 9/30/05, Steve MacSween <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>>> I noticed that my car manual states that the compression ration is
>> 22:1...is
>>> this when the engine is idle or at full boost?
>> 
>> Compression ratio is just that, a ratio. It remains constant at all
>> operating ranges.
>> 
>> Mac
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Compression ratio

[Marshall Booth]

Gabriel S. wrote:

the compression ratio remains constant even in a turbo charged engine?
Doesent a Turbo do just that...increase the compression ratio?


The compression ratio of the engine is unrelated to the turbo. The turbo 
increases the air charge pressure as required. The piston than compress 
that by about 22 times!


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] steering shock and center drag link

[Marshall Booth]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello All,
 
While getting my recent state inspection the guy said that I needed a new steering shock and center drag link.  Do these commonly wear out with a car of this age ?  The steering shock sounds more like a comfort item and the car seems to drive fine.
 
They want $100 for center drag link and $50 for steering shock.


Yes, those commonly wear out BEFORE most cars reach 23 years of age!

The prices seem modest.

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Compression ratio

[Gabriel S.]

the compression ratio remains constant even in a turbo charged engine?
Doesent a Turbo do just that...increase the compression ratio?

On 9/30/05, Steve MacSween <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > I noticed that my car manual states that the compression ration is
> 22:1...is
> > this when the engine is idle or at full boost?
>
> Compression ratio is just that, a ratio. It remains constant at all
> operating ranges.
>
> Mac
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Re: [MBZ] Compression ratio

[Steve MacSween]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I noticed that my car manual states that the compression ration is 22:1...is
> this when the engine is idle or at full boost?

Compression ratio is just that, a ratio. It remains constant at all
operating ranges.

Mac

Re: [MBZ] name calling...

[Dave M.]

Ancient Chinese proverb... (?)

'When wrestling a pig in the mud, you both get filthy dirty... but the
pig is enjoying himself.'

=)

+dm

> --
> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 07:49:42 -0700
> From: "Gabriel S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] name calling...
>
> Actually i've been on this list for a while now...started on the old
> one...im kind of tired of debating the autobahn against 10 babies, i think
> i'll stop now.

[MBZ] Compression ratio

[Gabriel S.]

I noticed that my car manual states that the compression ration is 22:1...is
this when the engine is idle or at full boost?

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Southern California
1987 300D 230K=-

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300D - transmission flare at part throttle (Mitch Haley)

[andrew strasfogel]

You can't, but Kaleb will take the car off your hands for $500. No more
headache.

On 9/29/05, Gabriel S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> a...my car has a slight bit of flare when shifting hard from 2nd to
> third under hard acceleration...actually its more like it seems like it's
> slipping a little bit...how should i combat this?
>
> On 9/29/05, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Gabriel S. wrote:
> >
> > >what is a flare up anyway?
> > >
> > >
> > "Flare" is when the engine RPMs increase briefly during an upshift. In
> > extreme cases it can feel like the transmission has momentarily dropped
> > into neutral during the shift. Imagine shifting a manual transmission
> > without fully taking your foot off the accellerator, and you have the
> > basic sound of it.
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Re: [MBZ] Click Click Click

[Dave M.]

Up until earlier this year, the 15W-50 was the easiest to locate, and
relatively cheap ($19 for the 5qt jug at Wal-Mart). The 5W-40
(Delvac-1) was pretty much only available from distributors, in gallon
jugs, for $24+.

Then, Mobil totally changed their marketing scheme and also released a
number of new formulas. Now, the 15W-50 is only available as 'Extended
Performance', now $24 (approx) for the 5qt jug. And, they released the
5W-40 both in quarts AND in a 5qt jug for $20.

IMNSHO, the 5W-40 is superior AND cheaper - no reason to buy the
15W-50 anymore (which used to at least be cheaper, but not superior.)

-Dave M.


==
On 9/30/05, Gabriel S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> why the 15w 40? doesent everyone recomend the 15w 50?
>
>
> On 9/29/05, Dave M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Some of the time, using Mobil-1 can quiet a noisy lifter on an OM60x
> > engine. It can happen within a few hundred miles, or take thousands.
> > If it doesn't go away within say 10kmi and a couple of M-1 oil
> > changes, you have a bad lifter or two. They're a mild PITA to replace,
> > and cost roughly $30 each. Although there are 12, usually only a few
> > are bad. There's a procedure on how to test them in the OM602/603
> > engine manual.
> >
> > BTW - if you use Mobil-1, get the 5W-40 'Truck & SUV' formula.
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > -dm
> >
> > > --
> > > Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 17:45:01 -0700
> > > From: "JJJ" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Click Click Click
> > >
> > > kaleb...for a noisy lifter, try mobil 1??  tell me what it does,
> please...i
> > > have a bit of a noisy lifter in my '86sdl
> > >
> > > thanx
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Click Click Click

[LT Don]

FIVE-W-40

On 9/30/05, Gabriel S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> why the 15w 40? doesent everyone recomend the 15w 50?
>
> On 9/29/05, Dave M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Some of the time, using Mobil-1 can quiet a noisy lifter on an OM60x
> > engine. It can happen within a few hundred miles, or take thousands.
> > If it doesn't go away within say 10kmi and a couple of M-1 oil
> > changes, you have a bad lifter or two. They're a mild PITA to replace,
> > and cost roughly $30 each. Although there are 12, usually only a few
> > are bad. There's a procedure on how to test them in the OM602/603
> > engine manual.
> >
> > BTW - if you use Mobil-1, get the 5W-40 'Truck & SUV' formula.
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > -dm
> >
> > > --
> > > Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 17:45:01 -0700
> > > From: "JJJ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Click Click Click
> > >
> > > kaleb...for a noisy lifter, try mobil 1?? tell me what it does,
> > please...i
> > > have a bit of a noisy lifter in my '86sdl
> > >
> > > thanx
> >
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[MBZ] steering shock and center drag link

[dieselbenz24]

Hello All,
 
While getting my recent state inspection the guy said that I needed a new 
steering shock and center drag link.  Do these commonly wear out with a car of 
this age ?  The steering shock sounds more like a comfort item and the car 
seems to drive fine.
 
They want $100 for center drag link and $50 for steering shock.
 
Any insight would be appreciated,
 
Dan Elliott
82 300D-T 86kmi

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Re: [MBZ] name calling...

[JJJ]

ahh... I don't recall joining this butt fest so don't be dragging me
into this.


That's, '' MR BENZBARN ''  to you buddy.

gotcha, mr. mr.

Re: [MBZ] Click Click Click

[Gabriel S.]

why the 15w 40? doesent everyone recomend the 15w 50?

On 9/29/05, Dave M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Some of the time, using Mobil-1 can quiet a noisy lifter on an OM60x
> engine. It can happen within a few hundred miles, or take thousands.
> If it doesn't go away within say 10kmi and a couple of M-1 oil
> changes, you have a bad lifter or two. They're a mild PITA to replace,
> and cost roughly $30 each. Although there are 12, usually only a few
> are bad. There's a procedure on how to test them in the OM602/603
> engine manual.
>
> BTW - if you use Mobil-1, get the 5W-40 'Truck & SUV' formula.
>
> :-)
>
> -dm
>
> > --
> > Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 17:45:01 -0700
> > From: "JJJ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Click Click Click
> >
> > kaleb...for a noisy lifter, try mobil 1?? tell me what it does,
> please...i
> > have a bit of a noisy lifter in my '86sdl
> >
> > thanx
>
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Re: [MBZ] name calling...

[Gabriel S.]

Actually i've been on this list for a while now...started on the old
one...im kind of tired of debating the autobahn against 10 babies, i think
i'll stop now.

On 9/29/05, JJJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> so, i can't say "candy-assed whiners" any more?...that's sorta generic,
> non-individualized...
>
> can't we still say some mean things...to a class of fairly stupid folks,
> if
> we don't make it personal?
>
> damn...what if we say things about their mothers or dogs?...
>
> ok, ok...we oughta just let that new (insert witty putdown here) guy from
> southern california a bit of slack (in the noose) and see if he can settle
> down and join us...or...blast him for being young and really (insert a
> really nasty putdown here)...and perhaps he'll get it that we usually only
> pop each other about once, and then move on (except benzbarn)...
>
> now...MERCEDES CONTENT: we're getting ready for another 7000 mile run to
> mexico and back in the '86sdl (225k miles)...any advice on getting ready?
>
> peace, baby
>
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[MBZ] OT - autobahn, etc.

[Wilton Strickland]

'Been driving for 55 yrs., know a little about a lot, know a lot about a
little, learning a little about a lot everyday, don't know everything about
anything, though I have driven extensively in most contiguous states and
Canda, even in almighty LA (city and state).
Looking forward to learning a lot more, especially about driving.

Wilton

Re: [MBZ] fuel prices jacked

[Dave Wakin]

Here in Upstate NY (Delhi),  gas has finally come down to $3.15/gallon from 
a high of around $3.40. The next town over is down to about $2.87, and that 
is where we try to buy it. Amazing how 20 miles of distance between the same 
company's gas stations can amount to a difference of almost $.30.


I am SO glad I picked up that 300TE for my wife to drive instead of our 
Yukon XL that gets around 14 mpg. We usually get 22 in the wagon. If only 
she would drive the 300SD.


Dave W

[MBZ] WAS 1987 420SEL for sale: NOW 617 500SEL or 81-85 300SDL

[RAH]

>Trampas wrote:
>I am also currently putting an OM617 in a 1985 500SEL, I wanted a 300SDL but
>have not been able to find a reasonable one. So I figured I could live with
>the OM617 over the OM603. I did want to put an intercooler on it such that I
>get a bit more power. 
  
I always thought that would be a great car, long body with more options (did 
the 500sel have SLS as a option?) and no crackhead, rod bender, computer 
controlled engine!

Is there any Legal problems with installing a diesel engine in a gas car? Do 
you still have to meet the gas cars emissions test standards with the 617 in 
there? Russ H.
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Re: [MBZ] Windshield

[Chuck Landenberger]

Donald,

USAA paid for replacement of a pitted windshield for me too.  I told  
them it was unsafe in rain, at night and driving into the sun.   
Present policy has clause for no deductible on windshield  
replacement..  Check your policy - Part D Physical Damage  
Coverage - mine reads "Full Safety Glass Cov"  INCL

May not apply if you don't carry Comp/Collision Coverage.

Take care,

Chuck
On Sep 30, 2005, at 5:45 AM, Donald Snook wrote:


Dieselers,



After all this discussion of windshields, I noticed as I was driving
west into the setting sun, that I have lots of pits and the glare does
it make it very difficult to see.  I also noticed that my  
windshield has
the Mercedes star and it also said PPG.  I have a 1990 300D 2.5. I  
don't

know whether it is original, I assume it is, since it has the star.



Someone mentioned that USAA paid for a windshield because it was  
pitted.

That is my insurance company, too. How did you (whoever you are) get
them to replace yours?



Donald H. Snook

McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn & Herrington, P.A.



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Re: [MBZ] Windshield

[Marshall Booth]

Donald Snook wrote:
Dieselers, 
  
After all this discussion of windshields, I noticed as I was driving

west into the setting sun, that I have lots of pits and the glare does
it make it very difficult to see.  I also noticed that my windshield has
the Mercedes star and it also said PPG.  I have a 1990 300D 2.5. I don't
know whether it is original, I assume it is, since it has the star. 


PPG makes replacement windshield WITH a star on them for Mercedes and 
they make them without the star for the glass replacement industry. They 
do NOT have different production lines for them. The difference IS the 
star - not the quality of the windshield. As far as I know, PPG did not 
supply the German factory with windshields for installation into cars as 
original equipment (but that might not be true). Any glass can pit. The 
OE glass in German cars pits faster than what's available in the 
replacement market in the US, but replacement glass WILL pit - it just 
takes more effort. One good sand storm is all it takes!


My insurance will not replace the windshield for cosmetic reasons, but 
only after it won't pass state inspection. That's a subjective call by 
the inspector.


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Autobahn vs. USA

[Bucks2]

12 steps and one day at a time. Recovery from Californiaism takes time?

Ken

In a message dated 9/29/2005 5:45:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From: dave walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Autobahn vs. USA
To: "Gabriel S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mercedes mailing list
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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In the interest of full disclosure, I have to admit that I was born
and raised in LA.
Spending the last 40+ years in the Midwest has helped my return to normalcy.
I'm still not there yet.

-Dave Walton

Re: [MBZ] The moron begs to differ

[Bucks2]

I stand corrected. 27 and still knows everything.   ;-)

Ken


In a message dated 9/29/2005 5:45:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From: "Gabriel S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T Road Rules
To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

ehhhim 27

On 9/29/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Anybody want to bet a paycheck that our friend Gabriel is under 25 and
> still
> knows everything?
>
> Ken

Re: [MBZ] The moron begs to differThe moron begs to differ

[Bucks2]

Not molestation, someone passed me driving on the shoulder and my road rage 
got out of control. 

Ken


In a message dated 9/29/2005 5:45:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From: "Gabriel S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The moron begs to differ.
To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Geez Ken, you are uptight today...whats wrong, did somone try to molest you?

Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, name calling, part 2, moron

[Harry Watkins]

Hear, Hear!

Harry Watkins
Newton, MS
86 SDL Silver
85 300D Euro
86 SDL Gold
81 240D manual trans

- Original Message - 
From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> The MORON thread has gotten out of control.  We now have people using
> profanity which is not appropriate.  This is the last warning on this
> issue.  Anybody who reponds to any threads about the moron comment or
> continues the flame war will be put on immediate moderation status.  Its
> a step I dont like to take but will in the interest of keeping things
civil.

Re: [MBZ] Is glass....glass?

[ANGELO GIAIMO]

RLE Writes:

<>

PPG has been one of the factory suppliers but my '01 C320's glass is all
Pilkington. And, when it's pitted windshield was replaced this year (paid
for
willing by my insurance), the new one is a PPG. And, it's not quite like
the
original in that the mask is painted on the inside surface instead of
between the
two. Which means that my Valentine 1's suction cups won't stick to it,
necessitating mounting it a bit farther to the right. At the top.

All this excitement about OE puzzles me since none of these cars are or
will
ever be collector's items anyway and windshields are a maintenance item
which
need to be changed every few years for safety's sake. Angelo's reasoning is

spot on. Looking through a new glass makes you wonder why you waited so
long to
change it.

On the other hand, if you are cheaper than Ebenezer
Scrooge...

RLE
===
So, the Pilkington windshield had to be replaced in ~4 years due to pitting
and the PPG is not like the OE either?  Is it holding up any better?

And yah, I know, it's no collector's item or classicjust a diesel 

Angelo Giaimo/Fishkill/IBM @ IBMUS
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Re: [MBZ] Glass is glass....

[Mike Canfield]

Truce???  Heck noAlready forgottenDon't sweat the small 
stufflolol, Mike
- Original Message - 
From: "ANGELO GIAIMO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Glass is glass



Mike, Mitch.

Thank you for your apologies.  But posting rude comments you made to each
other regarding the quickness of my response and the depth of my
pockets,... (None of which have anything to do with glass) was insulting
and uncalled for. Hence, my response.

Yes, you don't know me as I only post occasionally;  Been a learker since
the days the MBCA started their list..  Bought this 350SDL 8 years ago 
with

85K miles based on friends' satisfaction with (and my driving) their 300D,
300SD and 350SDL over the years.  That and my SO loved it.  It's been a
great car, despite the blown head gasket, ACC cold-weather issues, blower
motor and controller problems and other stuff that goes wrong with a
high(er) milage 14 year old car.  I perform all my own maintenance and 
have
the help and support of a good indy for stuff I don't want or can't 
handle.

The only way to make this car affordable...along with this list..

Truce?   I'll try to be a bit less thin skinned.

And on the subject of glass.I'm waiting to hear back from another 
glass

shop (local independent)  re:their glass supplier.

Angelo Giaimo/Fishkill/IBM @ IBMUS
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Re: [MBZ] Glass is glass....

[ANGELO GIAIMO]

Mike, Mitch.

Thank you for your apologies.  But posting rude comments you made to each
other regarding the quickness of my response and the depth of my
pockets,... (None of which have anything to do with glass) was insulting
and uncalled for. Hence, my response.

Yes, you don't know me as I only post occasionally;  Been a learker since
the days the MBCA started their list..  Bought this 350SDL 8 years ago with
85K miles based on friends' satisfaction with (and my driving) their 300D,
300SD and 350SDL over the years.  That and my SO loved it.  It's been a
great car, despite the blown head gasket, ACC cold-weather issues, blower
motor and controller problems and other stuff that goes wrong with a
high(er) milage 14 year old car.  I perform all my own maintenance and have
the help and support of a good indy for stuff I don't want or can't handle.
The only way to make this car affordable...along with this list..

Truce?   I'll try to be a bit less thin skinned.

And on the subject of glass.I'm waiting to hear back from another glass
shop (local independent)  re:their glass supplier.

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Re: [MBZ] fuel prices jacked

[Don & Teresa Merriman]

Here in Mexico we are paying $2.27 US$ per US gallon for 87 octane.

On 9/29/05, Ron Dwelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Here in Grand Rapids, diesel fuel went up $0.35/gallon in one day.
> Prices at all stations is $3.19/gallon, except the nearby Amoco.
> They're usually $0.10 to $0.20/gallon higher, but they haven't yet
> changed their price from $2.99/gallon.
>
> This is the first time I've seen such a huge jump in prices in a single
> day--and at all stations simultaneously.
>
> Can you say "collusion"???
>
> Ron Dwelle
>
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Re: [MBZ] Cool car

[Donald Snook]

Chuck Landenberger wrote:

 

"Donald,

 

Would that be Rick Ellinger of RC Imports in Rockville, MD  Good  

friend of mine, but have not crossed paths in a while!"

 

My former mechanic was in Topeka, Kansas.  His name was John Van
Dersomething.  He was originally from Belgium and moved to Stuttgart to
go to Tech School at Mercedes training facility. He is kind of a grumpy
but he was a great mechanic. 

 

 

Donald H. Snook 1990 300D 2.5 247K

 

[MBZ] Windshield

[Donald Snook]

Dieselers, 

 

After all this discussion of windshields, I noticed as I was driving
west into the setting sun, that I have lots of pits and the glare does
it make it very difficult to see.  I also noticed that my windshield has
the Mercedes star and it also said PPG.  I have a 1990 300D 2.5. I don't
know whether it is original, I assume it is, since it has the star. 

 

Someone mentioned that USAA paid for a windshield because it was pitted.
That is my insurance company, too. How did you (whoever you are) get
them to replace yours? 

 

Donald H. Snook

McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn & Herrington, P.A. 

 

[MBZ] OT a little silliness

[David J. Carter]

Andy,
Thanks for sharing, but where did you learn that?  What a hoot!  
Best regards,
David J. Carter
http://www.hugi.is/hahradi/bigboxes.php?box_id=51208

&f_id=681
 
ps -- You need a broadband connection to play this well. Enjoy!  Andy

Re: [MBZ] Road rules

[mykd1]

which also explains why the legal drinking age is 16, gives them 2 years to get 
it out of their system. 
henc, fewer drunk drivers on the road 
 
69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles
72 350SL   108,000 Miles
2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
1999 Mazda Miata   
 
 
-Original Message-
From: Gabriel S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 13:48:32 -0700
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Road rules


and i really belive that we should adopt some of those systems to ease
traffic and make america more effiecent

On 9/29/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Keep in mind that germans not only take driving more seriously then we do,
> its also illegal to do some of things we do over there. Talkng on the cell
> phone is a no no, and insulting hand gestures are considered a crime on the
> auotbahn. They are very disiplined drivers and hence the reason why you
> can't get a license until age 18 and its very expensive
>
> 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles
> 72 350SL 108,000 Miles
> 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
> 1999 Mazda Miata
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 11:39:34 -0700
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Road rules
>
>
> Gabriel S. wrote:
>
> >Well that doesen't change the fact that it's been proven to work in the
> >autoban; mind you, there are less accidents on the autobahn than the
> >American interstate...it's crybabies like you that cut short any sort of
> >innovation in this country.
> >
> >
> The autobahn is engineered to higher standards and has wider shoulders
> than many American highways, and German drivers go through a much better
> training program and actually PAY ATTENTION to what's going on around
> them. There's a reason it took so long for German cars to include cup
> holders -- Germans consider driving an activity that requires full
> attention, not something to do with your subconscious while you eat and
> yak on a cell phone.
>
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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, name calling, part 2, m****

[mykd1]

Geez guys, I didn't expect this to get out of control here. Whats up with the 
name calling now? Some mentions moron as a metaphor and now we got a war going 
on. Take a seat, have a beer and chill.. geez 
 
69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles
72 350SL   108,000 Miles
2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
1999 Mazda Miata   
 
 
-Original Message-
From: Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 21:22:09 -0500
Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, name calling, part 2, m


thanks, I prefer list stud though.

Alan Duff wrote:

> You guys must not have any sources of aggrevation in your lives. Gabriel S. 
> made my "Ignore Sender" file with his first smart-mouth post. You are a good 
> list-mom, Kaleb.
> 
> 
> Alan Duff
> Knoxville, TN
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 9:25 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] ADMIN, name calling, part 2, moron
> 
> 
> 
>>The MORON thread has gotten out of control.  We now have people using
>>profanity which is not appropriate.  This is the last warning on this
>>issue.  Anybody who reponds to any threads about the moron comment or
>>continues the flame war will be put on immediate moderation status.  Its
>>a step I dont like to take but will in the interest of keeping things 
>>civil.
>>-- 
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>> 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
>> 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
>> 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
>>Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
>>
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] fuel prices jacked

[David Brodbeck]

Ron Dwelle wrote:

Here in Grand Rapids, diesel fuel went up $0.35/gallon in one day. 
 

Delayed effect from Rita?  Word came in today that a lot of drilling 
rigs in the Gulf are damaged or missing entirely.  I imagine the news 
was quickly followed by a rise in the price of oil.

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300D - transmission flare at part throttle

[David Brodbeck]

Kevin wrote:


I'm keeping an eye on this one, as the 87 300D I have has started to
do this. Catch is, it doesn't always do it, and it only does it on the
2-3 shift. WOT vs medium throttle doesn't have much of a correlation, but
light throttle never causes it.
 

Would an '87 have those little vacuum switches on top of the valve 
cover?  I've heard those can affect shift quality.  Haven't gotten 
around to repairing mine yet, I've been waiting for some parts to arrive 
that seem to have gotten lost in the mail.


'83 300D Turbo

Re: [MBZ] name calling...

[BenzBarn]

ahh... I don't recall joining this butt fest so don't be dragging me
into this.


That's, '' MR BENZBARN ''  to you buddy.

Re: [MBZ] OT: Ham station for sale

[Michael Baker]

What's up with the ham station for sale? I'm not real keen on 
downloading a batch file.


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Re: [MBZ] 1977 450SEL Update

[Tom Hargrave]

Dave,

Yes, you can see the damage with the valve covers removed. One or more cam
lobe will be scored and in extreme cases, the lobe will be rounded off. In
addition, the associated cam follower will be damaged because they fail
together.

The root cause is an issue with the plastic oil spray bar mounts. They
disntegrate over time and when they do, most of the oil leaks past them &
the cam lobes starve for oil.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
256-656-1924
www.kegkits.com



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of dave walton
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 10:35 PM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1977 450SEL Update


Would you be able to tell from looking at the camshaft if you pulled
he valve cover?
If so, what are you looking for?

Thanks

-Dave Walton

On 9/29/05, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I checked out the car that started this thread and I'm not going to
purchase
> it.
>
> The body and interior look great - all it needs are carpet and a dash
cover.
>
> But then I started & attempted to drive the car. The engine would not come
> off of idle until it had warmed up. Also, it had a serious miss. I know
from
> my past two 4.5 liter Mercedes engines that a miss can be caused from
> several expensive items, including (from personal experience) a bad cam
> lobe. Too many unknown costs scared me away.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave
> 256-656-1924
> www.kegkits.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Peter Frederick
> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 6:08 PM
> To: Mercedes mailing list
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1977 450SEL
>
> Should run fine on midgrade unless you tow something (ha ha).
>
> Milage is typically 12-14.
>
> Peter
>
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Re: [MBZ] 2.3-16V auto trans, NY ebay

[TimothyPilgrim]

That's a pretty sweet looking 16V. Alas, I've no money or room for
another car at present. Maybe in time...

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 9/29/05, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey Pilgrim, were you looking for an auto or a manny?
> $2600US and reserve not met.
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4578186930

Re: [MBZ] 1977 450SEL Update

[dave walton]

Would you be able to tell from looking at the camshaft if you pulled
he valve cover?
If so, what are you looking for?

Thanks

-Dave Walton

On 9/29/05, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I checked out the car that started this thread and I'm not going to purchase
> it.
>
> The body and interior look great - all it needs are carpet and a dash cover.
>
> But then I started & attempted to drive the car. The engine would not come
> off of idle until it had warmed up. Also, it had a serious miss. I know from
> my past two 4.5 liter Mercedes engines that a miss can be caused from
> several expensive items, including (from personal experience) a bad cam
> lobe. Too many unknown costs scared me away.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave
> 256-656-1924
> www.kegkits.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Peter Frederick
> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 6:08 PM
> To: Mercedes mailing list
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1977 450SEL
>
> Should run fine on midgrade unless you tow something (ha ha).
>
> Milage is typically 12-14.
>
> Peter
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] acetone in fuel to increase mpg? anyone heard of this?

[Chris]

There was a discussion of this on the biofuels list (JTF) and some people 
did some careful testing.  The final conclusion was that it doesn't work. 
(Good initial results were attributed to more careful driving during the 
initial phase of the experiments.)  To read all the test results you can 
search the archives:

http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/


Chris Kueny ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
78 Chevy Custom deluxe
'85 300TD
'02 Subaru Outback


- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher McCann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 5:09 PM
Subject: [MBZ] acetone in fuel to increase mpg? anyone heard of this?


What's up with this?

http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/2005/03/17/6900069_Acetone/

Thanks, Chris

Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri
-1985 300SD, 209K miles, "Wulf" 
(http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD)

-1987 300TD, 149K miles, "Rotkäppchen"
-1976 240D, ManyK miles,  "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs 
Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle)


-1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 101K miles, "The Van" - FOR SALE $6500 (and 
that's a good deal).




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[MBZ] OT: Ham station for sale

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Re: [MBZ] 1977 450SEL Update

[Tom Hargrave]

Not necessaraly. If it were worn enough to be rounded off you'd have little
sound at all.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
256-656-1924
www.kegkits.com



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 8:22 AM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1977 450SEL Update


If the cam was worn bad enough to cause a miss you would have a hell of
a ticking sound I would think.

Tom Hargrave wrote:

> I checked out the car that started this thread and I'm not going to
purchase
> it.
>
> The body and interior look great - all it needs are carpet and a dash
cover.
>
> But then I started & attempted to drive the car. The engine would not come
> off of idle until it had warmed up. Also, it had a serious miss. I know
from
> my past two 4.5 liter Mercedes engines that a miss can be caused from
> several expensive items, including (from personal experience) a bad cam
> lobe. Too many unknown costs scared me away.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave
> 256-656-1924
> www.kegkits.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Peter Frederick
> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 6:08 PM
> To: Mercedes mailing list
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1977 450SEL
>
> Should run fine on midgrade unless you tow something (ha ha).
>
> Milage is typically 12-14.
>
> Peter
>
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[MBZ] Pick up the pace

[BillR]

Message: 4
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 20:00:55 EDT
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Subject: [MBZ] Re road rules
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

What are you doing on the shoulder if you're only going to drive 80? Pick up

the pace man, you're holding up traffic.. ;-)

ken

In a message dated 9/29/2005 1:46:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Being retired and not in a hurry I don't
mind driving at 'only' 75 or 80, but at times that will get a lesser car
pushed off the road on I95 in Florida.


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the limit on the highway is fast enough for me, or just go with the flow
unless it is running 90mph which is not unusual in S. Florida, or anywhere
my wife drives.  I will admit that was not always the case, particularly
with my Alfa GTV [European model which got 45 mpg at 85 mph] when I was a
punk kid.  Old age and being force-fed a Chevy once cured me. Cured [read
'killed'] the gal driving it also.

Still hoping to discover the Safe [for the mechanicals of my 81 300SD]and
Sane [best mileage] speeds to run.  I just don't like/am not used to the
sound my diesel makes much over 3000k rpm.
BillR
Jacksonville FL   904-737-2855
1981 300SD  'EM'   265k /185K engine  

[MBZ] OT a little silliness

[Andrew Cunningham]

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 Andy

Re: [MBZ] What's special about a 190Dt?

[Marshall Booth]

Peter Frederick wrote:
It goes like a bat out of the bad place and gets excellent milage.  
What's more to want?  It's faster than an 87 300D!


Not faster than an '87 300D (205km/hr) or 300TD (195 km/hr)!

190D 2.5 turbo 201.128 (190 km/hr)

Marshall
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159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi

[MBZ] Hauling what?

[RELNGSON]

<>

How many bales can you squeeze into the thing, anyway? Or as Kleb would say, 
anyways.

RLE

Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, name calling, part 2, m****

[Richard Smith]

You da man List Stud!

On 9/29/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> thanks, I prefer list stud though.
>
> Alan Duff wrote:
>
> > You guys must not have any sources of aggrevation in your lives. Gabriel
> S.
> > made my "Ignore Sender" file with his first smart-mouth post. You are a
> good
> > list-mom, Kaleb.
> >
> >
> > Alan Duff
> > Knoxville, TN
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 9:25 PM
> > Subject: [MBZ] ADMIN, name calling, part 2, moron
> >
> >
> >
> >>The MORON thread has gotten out of control. We now have people using
> >>profanity which is not appropriate. This is the last warning on this
> >>issue. Anybody who reponds to any threads about the moron comment or
> >>continues the flame war will be put on immediate moderation status. Its
> >>a step I dont like to take but will in the interest of keeping things
> >>civil.
> >>--
> >>Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
> >> 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
> >> 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
> >> 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
> >>Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
> >>
> >
> >
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> 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
> 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
> 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] name calling...

[LT Don]

Fresh meat -- tick, tick, tick ...

On 9/30/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> If you want to talk that talk, sign up for banned.
>
> JJJ wrote:
> > so, i can't say "candy-assed whiners" any more?...that's sorta generic,
> > non-individualized...
> >
> > can't we still say some mean things...to a class of fairly stupid folks,
> if
> > we don't make it personal?
> >
> > damn...what if we say things about their mothers or dogs?...
> >
> > ok, ok...we oughta just let that new (insert witty putdown here) guy
> from
> > southern california a bit of slack (in the noose) and see if he can
> settle
> > down and join us...or...blast him for being young and really (insert a
> > really nasty putdown here)...and perhaps he'll get it that we usually
> only
> > pop each other about once, and then move on (except benzbarn)...
> >
> > now...MERCEDES CONTENT: we're getting ready for another 7000 mile run to
> > mexico and back in the '86sdl (225k miles)...any advice on getting
> ready?
> >
> > peace, baby
> >
> >
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> 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
> 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
> 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] What's special about a 190Dt?

[Peter Frederick]

It goes like a bat out of the bad place and gets excellent milage.  
What's more to want?  It's faster than an 87 300D!


Peter

Re: [MBZ] name calling...

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

If you want to talk that talk, sign up for banned.

JJJ wrote:
so, i can't say "candy-assed whiners" any more?...that's sorta generic, 
non-individualized...


can't we still say some mean things...to a class of fairly stupid folks, if 
we don't make it personal?


damn...what if we say things about their mothers or dogs?...

ok, ok...we oughta just let that new (insert witty putdown here) guy from 
southern california a bit of slack (in the noose) and see if he can settle 
down and join us...or...blast him for being young and really (insert a 
really nasty putdown here)...and perhaps he'll get it that we usually only 
pop each other about once, and then move on (except benzbarn)...


now...MERCEDES CONTENT: we're getting ready for another 7000 mile run to 
mexico and back in the '86sdl (225k miles)...any advice on getting ready?


peace, baby 



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 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts

Re: [MBZ] Limited slip diffs (was: W201 engine swapping)

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

uh, no.

OK Don wrote:


Do you have one on the shelf?

On 9/29/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


The 350's had the option.




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'87 300SDL,  '81 240D,  '78 450SLC
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 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts

Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, name calling, part 2, m****

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

thanks, I prefer list stud though.

Alan Duff wrote:

You guys must not have any sources of aggrevation in your lives. Gabriel S. 
made my "Ignore Sender" file with his first smart-mouth post. You are a good 
list-mom, Kaleb.



Alan Duff
Knoxville, TN
- Original Message - 
From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 9:25 PM
Subject: [MBZ] ADMIN, name calling, part 2, moron




The MORON thread has gotten out of control.  We now have people using
profanity which is not appropriate.  This is the last warning on this
issue.  Anybody who reponds to any threads about the moron comment or
continues the flame war will be put on immediate moderation status.  Its
a step I dont like to take but will in the interest of keeping things 
civil.

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89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts





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 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts

Re: [MBZ] zero oil pressure this am..

[Peter Frederick]

Fuse for gauges -- check to see if the temp gauge and fuel gauge work 
(this happened to me while driving, scared me half to death!).


Also, idle the engine and check to see if there is oil running onto the 
cam through the oil filler cap -- if not STOP ENGINE -- you are either 
out of oil or the pump chain is broken.


If so, it's the gauge or wire.

Peter

[MBZ] name calling...

[JJJ]

so, i can't say "candy-assed whiners" any more?...that's sorta generic, 
non-individualized...


can't we still say some mean things...to a class of fairly stupid folks, if 
we don't make it personal?


damn...what if we say things about their mothers or dogs?...

ok, ok...we oughta just let that new (insert witty putdown here) guy from 
southern california a bit of slack (in the noose) and see if he can settle 
down and join us...or...blast him for being young and really (insert a 
really nasty putdown here)...and perhaps he'll get it that we usually only 
pop each other about once, and then move on (except benzbarn)...


now...MERCEDES CONTENT: we're getting ready for another 7000 mile run to 
mexico and back in the '86sdl (225k miles)...any advice on getting ready?


peace, baby 

Re: [MBZ] Limited slip diffs (was: W201 engine swapping)

[OK Don]

Do you have one on the shelf?

On 9/29/05, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The 350's had the option.
>

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Norman, OK
'87 300SDL,  '81 240D,  '78 450SLC
The FSM created the Diesel Benz
http://www.venganza.org/