Re: [MBZ] How I found this Group
If we can get one more K in there, we can be the KKK. Ok, any black dudes on here raise his/her hand. On 2/3/06, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is a good story too! Google search for cantankerous mercedes crackpot just now yielded 106 hits, but the Kleb Klub was not on the first page! At 04:47 PM 2/3/2006, you wrote: I found the list by typing cantankerous mercedes crackpot into Google, then hit the I'm feeling lucky button...voila, I'm home! Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (207k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] MBs with Dual wheels
Dual wheels x 4? And it wasn't a Unimog? On 2/3/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no, I dont remember that option, what the heck are you talking about? John Berryman wrote: Does anyone remember the dual wheels at every corner option? What years/models were they offered in? What was the thinking behind this feature? Price of this option? When/why was it discontinued? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] MTBE
Yes, NAFTA was used as the stick to make the canadian chemical manufacture who made it for something else sell it to refineries in California so it could accumulate in the ground water... Something about if you sell in your country then you must sell in it all three NAFTA countries for whatever people want to use it for... On 2-Feb-06, at 4:54 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Surely no one who claims to be knowledgeable on oxgenated fuels would not know about MTBE and why Montana and Alaska prohibit it. Didn't the state of Commiefornia require its use in gasoline, and then sue the chemical companies which produced it and sold it to refineries because the companies produced a chemical which was required by law? John 1983 300TDt 361k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990 300TDt 159k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 170k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40)
Re: [MBZ] How I found this Group
Sorry ... that is four. On 2/4/06, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kleb's Klatta Klatta Klub At 06:16 PM 2/3/2006, you wrote: If we can get one more K in there, we can be the KKK. Ok, any black dudes on here raise his/her hand. On 2/3/06, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is a good story too! Google search for cantankerous mercedes crackpot just now yielded 106 hits, but the Kleb Klub was not on the first page! At 04:47 PM 2/3/2006, you wrote: I found the list by typing cantankerous mercedes crackpot into Google, then hit the I'm feeling lucky button...voila, I'm home! Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (207k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] Minnesota CL 92 Mercedes Benz 300TE/4Matic Wagon
Rick, You are a 300CD man did you notice this listing? http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/car/129298268.html Dennis T Yeah, that car has been advertised on CL for a couple months now. $200 and it is a bargain. For $1200 I want a running example, in repairable shape, not a parts car. I paid $1800 for mine and aside from the usual rust, it is a good car. I have been here lurking and posting for several years now, and I usually only post cars that I feel someone will be interested in. Jan (an ex-lister) picked up a clean 87 td wagon for 3 grand I posted once. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD
[MBZ] our glorious information age for the sports fan
i come home from work and sit down at my tv. i turn it on. and la MOtta-Robinson VI from 1951 is about to start. once upon a time, you had to know someone who knew someone who knew someone to see such a spectacle. if you read Ring magazine religiously and talked to some old timers, you could know a little about it today, you just turn on your tv and it is there. then you can tell a bunch of people who don't care by typing an email i'm simply awestruck. is it any less a wonder than the great discoveries of a century ago?
Re: [MBZ] How I found this Group
Kleb Krew Klub? On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 18:16:38 -0600, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If we can get one more K in there, we can be the KKK. Ok, any black dudes on here raise his/her hand. On 2/3/06, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is a good story too! Google search for cantankerous mercedes crackpot just now yielded 106 hits, but the Kleb Klub was not on the first page! -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (231,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (158,xxx kmi) '90 300E '82 300D (parts or run?)
Re: [MBZ] 240 d
Hey everyone , you'll quickly realize what a neophyte i am ( Naive ? ) but here it goes i have always wanted a MBZ 240 D , in a 123 body style and it looks like this might be the year to find one ! i have'nt got a clue of what i should be looking for , i know what i want a 82 -83 240 D in yellow w/ sunroof and complimentary interior in pristine condition with as low a miles as possibly , is this doable ? any help on what i should be boning up on ? re books , manuals , tech notes ? and what tell tale signs on the actual vehicle i should look for any and all information welcomed Thanx . Joe Gomez . Boise Idaho
Re: [MBZ] How I found this Group
Kleb Klatta Klub. On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 19:38:58 -0600, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kleb Krew Klub? On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 18:16:38 -0600, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If we can get one more K in there, we can be the KKK. Ok, any black dudes on here raise his/her hand. On 2/3/06, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is a good story too! Google search for cantankerous mercedes crackpot just now yielded 106 hits, but the Kleb Klub was not on the first page! -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (231,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (158,xxx kmi) '90 300E '82 300D (parts or run?)
Re: [MBZ] How I found this Group
Three's already been taken, we'll have to settle for four -- On 2/3/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry ... that is four. On 2/4/06, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kleb's Klatta Klatta Klub -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
[MBZ] Fw: NBB to Open Washington, DC, Office
FYI... Werner - Original Message - From: National Biodiesel Board [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 2:01 PM Subject: NBB to Open Washington, DC, Office National Biodiesel Board to Open Washington, DC, Office Industry Organization Announces Governmental Affairs Team The National Biodiesel Board (NBB) announced today it will be opening an office in Washington, DC, starting March 1, 2006. The office will focus on federal regulatory and legislative issues impacting the biodiesel industry. In addition to opening its Washington, DC, based governmental affairs office, the industry’s nonprofit coordinating organization is proud to announce Scott Hughes has been promoted from Regulatory Director to Director of Governmental Affairs. As Director of Governmental Affairs, Hughes will have management responsibility for NBB’s state and federal regulatory and legislative programs. Hughes will be 100 percent dedicated to biodiesel legislative issues and coordination, while other members of the team will be partially dedicated to biodiesel issues and specialize in their respective areas. The biodiesel industry has achieved tremendous success from the extraordinary policy leadership of the American Soybean Association (ASA). NBB will continue to fully support its very strong partnership with ASA. NBB’s new governmental affairs team is structured to supplement the ongoing work with ASA and to even more effectively coordinate the overall legislative effort. The NBB federal governmental affairs team has a wealth of industry knowledge and Washington-based governmental affairs experience. It is well prepared to represent the interests and needs of the biodiesel industry. The federal governmental affairs team is: Scott Hughes (Director of Governmental Affairs) – Hughes brings over 15 years of governmental affairs, public service, and political experience to the position, including having worked on Capitol Hill. In addition, Hughes has worked for NBB for the past three and a half years in regulatory affairs. “Scott is very knowledgeable about biodiesel and the dynamics of the industry,” said Joe Jobe, CEO of NBB. “He has demonstrated tremendous talent and effectiveness as NBB Regulatory Director and is uniquely suited to immediately step into this expanded role to head up our Washington, DC, office.” Hughes’s current state regulatory role will be served by contractors yet to be named. Gordley and Associates – Gordley and Associates is a Washington, DC, based government relations firm specializing in legislation and regulatory policies affecting agriculture and related industries. Gordley and Associates has a successful, long-standing relationship with ASA, NBB and the biodiesel industry. Gordley Associates has been at the center of biodiesel policy efforts since NBB’s beginning. • John Gordley, founder, has extensive experience working in both the legislative and executive branches of government. Gordley’s areas of expertise include farm policy, agricultural trade policy and biotechnology. He has played a major role in every national farm bill since 1981. This experience will be invaluable as agriculture policy incorporates several programs critical to the biodiesel industry. • Mark Palmer has served as the primary federal contact for the biodiesel industry over the last two years. Palmer has extensive Hill experience and a renewable fuel policy background. Palmer was the point person for the industry in its successful efforts to pass the volumetric biodiesel fuels tax credit in 2004. • Janet Kopenhaver (Eye on Washington) - Kopenhaver has over twenty years experience in the governmental relations field. Kopenhaver has been serving as the Federal Regulatory Consultant to NBB for over two years. In this capacity, she closely monitors federal agency proposed regulations and grant programs for their impact on the biodiesel industry. Alan Weber (MARC-IV) - Weber is a founding partner of MARC-IV, a consulting company that specializes in the development of industrial products from agricultural resources. Weber has been associated with NBB and the biodiesel industry for over 10 years. He specializes in advising NBB on economic technical activities. Weber has significant experience in federal regulatory affairs and has played a central role in every major federal initiative proposed by NBB. He will serve as a transition team member moving to Washington for approximately one year to help ensure the successful launch of the new Biodiesel Governmental Affairs Team. Tim Urban (Washington Council Ernst Young) – Urban is a partner with Washington Council Ernst Young. Urban’s areas of expertise include tax and budget. Urban has been advising the biodiesel regulatory team since the beginning of the campaign for the biodiesel tax credit in
Re: [MBZ] MBs with Dual wheels
Levi Smith wrote: I remember seeing some article about dual-wheels in general at some point. Nothing particular to Mercedes that I recall. Seems they were more or less something like twin motorcycle wheels in place of a single car wheel. The benefits being better traction in water, probably some others... When I first read about it in Popular Science, the idea was attributed to an engineer whose Lotus Esprit got outrun by a 2CV in the rain. The obvious answer was to put it on skinny tires, but if he did that, it would handle like a 2CV in the dry, so he used eight of them on special wheels. Goodyear later refined the idea into the Aquatred.
Re: [MBZ] How I found this Group
Just what we need -- some stuttering racists! On 2/4/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Three's already been taken, we'll have to settle for four -- On 2/3/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry ... that is four. On 2/4/06, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kleb's Klatta Klatta Klub -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] 240 d
You mean something like this? http://don.homelinux.net/debdon/BenzIndex.html As for boning up just read this list for a while before you buy. And don't pay too much. Or if you want, buy one from someone on this list. We are all honest, upstanding individuals who would not lead you astray. [Mine is NOT for sale.] Don't worry about miles. Mine is 200,000 and probably hasn't reached half-life. On 2/4/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey everyone , you'll quickly realize what a neophyte i am ( Naive ? ) but here it goes i have always wanted a MBZ 240 D , in a 123 body style and it looks like this might be the year to find one ! i have'nt got a clue of what i should be looking for , i know what i want a 82 -83 240 D in yellow w/ sunroof and complimentary interior in pristine condition with as low a miles as possibly , is this doable ? any help on what i should be boning up on ? re books , manuals , tech notes ? and what tell tale signs on the actual vehicle i should look for any and all information welcomed Thanx . Joe Gomez . Boise Idaho ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] How I found this Group
We'd better be careful! If we adopt the name, Kleb might get like Dickarde and charge us all $1500 a month each! At 07:49 PM 2/3/2006, you wrote: Three's already been taken, we'll have to settle for four -- On 2/3/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry ... that is four. On 2/4/06, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kleb's Klatta Klatta Klub -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 240 d
Don't worry about miles. Mine is 200,000 and probably hasn't reached half-life. IIRC, Someone once said that vehicle history is way more important than miles. If you can find a clean example that has been well maintained,with accurate records, mileage doesn't much matter. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD
Re: [MBZ] How I found this Group
If he does that, I think we have sufficient education and 'puter experience here to push Kleb aside if necessary and begin again. On 2/4/06, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We'd better be careful! If we adopt the name, Kleb might get like Dickarde and charge us all $1500 a month each! At 07:49 PM 2/3/2006, you wrote: Three's already been taken, we'll have to settle for four -- On 2/3/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry ... that is four. On 2/4/06, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kleb's Klatta Klatta Klub -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] How I found this Group
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Loren Faeth wrote: We'd better be careful! If we adopt the name, Kleb might get like Dickarde and charge us all $1500 a month each! At 07:49 PM 2/3/2006, you wrote: Three's already been taken, we'll have to settle for four -- On 2/3/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry ... that is four. On 2/4/06, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kleb's Klatta Klatta Klub -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] How I found this Group
u, I dont think I like that tone dude. Y;all are a brutal bunch :) LT Don wrote: If he does that, I think we have sufficient education and 'puter experience here to push Kleb aside if necessary and begin again. On 2/4/06, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We'd better be careful! If we adopt the name, Kleb might get like Dickarde and charge us all $1500 a month each! At 07:49 PM 2/3/2006, you wrote: Three's already been taken, we'll have to settle for four -- On 2/3/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry ... that is four. On 2/4/06, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kleb's Klatta Klatta Klub -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] How I found this Group
I think you already realize that you have more combined years of professional (as in, this is how I make my living) computer experience on these lists than the number of years you've been on this earth. Heck, that is almost just counting me, not considering Loren and OK Don and others. But you play nice and don't become a Richarde and everything will be cool. On 2/4/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: u, I dont think I like that tone dude. Y;all are a brutal bunch :) LT Don wrote: If he does that, I think we have sufficient education and 'puter experience here to push Kleb aside if necessary and begin again. On 2/4/06, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We'd better be careful! If we adopt the name, Kleb might get like Dickarde and charge us all $1500 a month each! At 07:49 PM 2/3/2006, you wrote: Three's already been taken, we'll have to settle for four -- On 2/3/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry ... that is four. On 2/4/06, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kleb's Klatta Klatta Klub -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] How I found this Group
We will always have Banned, won't we? On 2/4/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forget becoming richarde, you dont want it becoming another stu ritter type list LT Don wrote: I think you already realize that you have more combined years of professional (as in, this is how I make my living) computer experience on these lists than the number of years you've been on this earth. Heck, that is almost just counting me, not considering Loren and OK Don and others. But you play nice and don't become a Richarde and everything will be cool. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] best way to clean MB-Tex?
You're right on both counts... use Meguiars to clean, and 303 to protect. =) +dm™ -- Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 16:47:59 -0600 From: Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] best way to clean MB-Tex? I have always used Meguiars products, but I have heard this 303 stuff is the bomb. http://www.303products.com/main.php?infopage=home Rick Knoble '85 300 CD
Re: [MBZ] 240 d
It seems like there are always loads of good cars over Seattle way. You're kinda close... Just keep your eyes peeled. Something will turn up and when you find something bounce it off of us...we won't be afraid to let you know if what your looking at is good or bad. Cautionthis is a lifestyle change! Bob Rentfro '77 300D 148K '01 VW Beetle TDI 61K Litchfield Park, AZ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 6:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240 d Hey everyone , you'll quickly realize what a neophyte i am ( Naive ? ) but here it goes i have always wanted a MBZ 240 D , in a 123 body style and it looks like this might be the year to find one ! i have'nt got a clue of what i should be looking for , i know what i want a 82 -83 240 D in yellow w/ sunroof and complimentary interior in pristine condition with as low a miles as possibly , is this doable ? any help on what i should be boning up on ? re books , manuals , tech notes ? and what tell tale signs on the actual vehicle i should look for any and all information welcomed Thanx . Joe Gomez . Boise Idaho ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] ground hog cars
I will be checking that one out for Ed B. Will let the list know what I find On Friday, February 3, 2006, at 12:10 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: The 108 280SE cars both looked great and the one for $950 looked like a truly good deal! On 2/2/06, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as always use delete key as needed http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130755830.html -- 190e stick http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130716898.html -- 67 230 $3k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130709102.html -- 83 sec $2500 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130705086.html -- POS E320 $6k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130700775.html -- 62 220Sb $500 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130694025.html -- 84 TD $1200 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130673999.html -- 84 SD $2k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130651588.html -- Overprice CD http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130627501.html -- Fubar 280C http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130519707.html -- $3K SEL 86 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130600911.html -- 80 Stick 240D http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/13054.html -- Diesel Beemer http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130597021.html -- 90 SEL http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130563347.html -- 88 TE $3k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130561023.html -- 280SEL $1200 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130473454.html -- 91 SE $4k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130463104.html -- 81 SE $2k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130447771.html -- 70 280se $1k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130312860.html -- 67 250S $600 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130269376.html -- 91 190 2.6 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130253442.html -- 77 300d $2k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130208253.html -- Casey car http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130184723.html -- 84 SEl $6k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130135830.html -- 72 SEL $6500 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130134055.html -- 84 SE $1200 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/130102927.html -- 68 SE $6k there are probably more out there but these are freshest -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] 240 d
I am willing to check out cars around town. Nobody ends up buying them, except for Dave M., but who knows when that CL car will show up on the long list that needs delete keys I post every so often? On Friday, February 3, 2006, at 09:14 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: It seems like there are always loads of good cars over Seattle way. You're kinda close... Just keep your eyes peeled. Something will turn up and when you find something bounce it off of us...we won't be afraid to let you know if what your looking at is good or bad. Cautionthis is a lifestyle change! Bob Rentfro '77 300D 148K '01 VW Beetle TDI 61K Litchfield Park, AZ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 6:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240 d Hey everyone , you'll quickly realize what a neophyte i am ( Naive ? ) but here it goes i have always wanted a MBZ 240 D , in a 123 body style and it looks like this might be the year to find one ! i have'nt got a clue of what i should be looking for , i know what i want a 82 -83 240 D in yellow w/ sunroof and complimentary interior in pristine condition with as low a miles as possibly , is this doable ? any help on what i should be boning up on ? re books , manuals , tech notes ? and what tell tale signs on the actual vehicle i should look for any and all information welcomed Thanx . Joe Gomez . Boise Idaho ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] ground hog cars
On 2/4/06, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will be checking that one out for Ed B. Will let the list know what I find And it is much appreciated. -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
Re: [MBZ] How I found this Group
Aww. Nice to hear all of ya waxing eloquent as you recount your introduction to Benzes. It inspires me to re-post this little tale that I posted a few weeks back. - snip - ... reminds me of the way a certain exceedingly anal and superior woman customer at the service station I used to work at used to tell us to fill up her 124. In some sort of southern-ish accent it was always Feel it with Dezel. Man, she was so bent on making sure we knew she was above us in society. Duh. That job actually was my first exposure to Mercedes diesels. We used to call them rabid mobies only because of the foamy nature of diesel. And we could always hear them coming before we saw them, owing to what I now know as the klatta klatta. They almost invariably came into full serve. Didn't get too nervous around these luxury autos after a while. I remember some unfortunate new employee, however, who left the nozzle in a guy's Jaguar, allowing him to pull away. OOOPS. Ah, memories. Now I'm a rabid mobiler. Our very strong interest in fuel mileage, and a show on PBS about a lady here in Minn. running WVO in her Mercedes Diesel sparked our exploration of what it might take to get one of these autos. Increasingly dependent on the internet (though I fought it for a long time), I did a search for the topic, and the link to MBZ.org was the first I looked at. It did a great job at giving me a feel for what's up with owning one of them, and how surprisingly inexpensive a used one can be (despite what some folks try to charge - there is such a gap in the selling prices!) Brian 83 240D _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] 240 d
Hi Joe, I actually don't have much help to offer (rather new myself) but your post just reminds me of where I was not long ago. We wish you the best in finding that 240 you desire. I found that looking on AutoTrader.com and the like quite useless (most are overpriced, some seemed real shady - a lot of dealers - and none near my home). Quite often, listers will post ads that they have found. A lot of them look nice, but I never did see one anywhere near my area. I wound up finding mine through my brother who spotted it while out on a walk. Just wanted to say best of luck. Brian 83 240D From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240 d Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 20:33:27 EST Hey everyone , you'll quickly realize what a neophyte i am ( Naive ? ) but here it goes i have always wanted a MBZ 240 D , in a 123 body style and it looks like this might be the year to find one ! i have'nt got a clue of what i should be looking for , i know what i want a 82 -83 240 D in yellow w/ sunroof and complimentary interior in pristine condition with as low a miles as possibly , is this doable ? any help on what i should be boning up on ? re books , manuals , tech notes ? and what tell tale signs on the actual vehicle i should look for any and all information welcomed Thanx . Joe Gomez . Boise Idaho ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: [MBZ] what IS the diesel noise?
I had the impression that there WAS no combustion front in a diesel in the sense that there is in a spark ignition engine... rather, all the fuel combusts simultaneously as it is sprayed into the hot air in the prechamber or cylinder at the top of the compression stroke. Always assumed THIS was the characteristic diesel noise---a sharper, louder sound when combustion takes place throughout the cylinder in one event, rather than being spread over a small but significant period of time. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo On 2/3/06, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The noise is a combination of things, starting with a supersonic shock wave at the combustion front. Fixed timing engines also suffer from excessively early injection at idle, contributing to the noise in the same way spark knock does. The high speed swirl in the prechamber breaks up the shock wave, resulting in both better combustion and less noise -- alas, it also reduces efficiency somewhat. Noisy Benz engines are usually as Marshall describes -- some carbon on the nozzle will disrupt the spray pattern enough at idle, when very little fuel is injected, enough to make it burn all at once rather than smoothly. Sticky nozzles result in late or early injection (depending on when it sticks, open or closed), again, clank. Diesels cannot detonate, the fuel has to be all present at once for detonation to occur. Peter ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] 240 d
Three years ago I bought a 1977 300D from a guy in Maine who had it for less han six months. When I had test drove it I had never, never driven any Mercedes anywhere new or old in my life. I fell in love with it and bought it. A few reasons made me look. I had a little extra cash that year. I figured steam ships and trains went to diesel. My mechanic said man you drive so much you should get a diesel car, but only a Mercedes diesel I just purchased a 1979 240D with low mileage so it continues. By the way I have never had either to an authorized Mercedes Benz dealership. Much I do myself and with trusted mechanics. If speed is you thing get a Porsche. If a steady safe ride on the highway is your thing these cars are built for that. They are slow up hills but faster than riding a bike so that is good news. Sometimes people get impatient when it takes a few minutes to come up to highway speed. Craig's list is a good source. Monkey adds, BigLot, Cars.com. Autotrader (look for private owner listings), eBay but it is a sellers market is another source. Remember if looking for low mileage, extreme claims of low mileage require extreme proof (maintence records showing dates and mileage/review title look for descrepancies), otherwise assume an odometer has been changed out. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA 1977 300D 1979 240D - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 12:14 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240 d It seems like there are always loads of good cars over Seattle way. You're kinda close... Just keep your eyes peeled. Something will turn up and when you find something bounce it off of us...we won't be afraid to let you know if what your looking at is good or bad. Cautionthis is a lifestyle change! Bob Rentfro '77 300D 148K '01 VW Beetle TDI 61K Litchfield Park, AZ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 6:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240 d Hey everyone , you'll quickly realize what a neophyte i am ( Naive ? ) but here it goes i have always wanted a MBZ 240 D , in a 123 body style and it looks like this might be the year to find one ! i have'nt got a clue of what i should be looking for , i know what i want a 82 -83 240 D in yellow w/ sunroof and complimentary interior in pristine condition with as low a miles as possibly , is this doable ? any help on what i should be boning up on ? re books , manuals , tech notes ? and what tell tale signs on the actual vehicle i should look for any and all information welcomed Thanx . Joe Gomez . Boise Idaho ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] new york/Jersey Mercedes on craig
*und: 13 Displaying: 1 - 13* Feb- 3 1980 mercedes Station Wagon - Diesel - $600http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/car/131058794.html (ny, nj) Feb- 3 Im looking for a Mercedes-Benz E300 Diesel.http://newyork.craigslist.org/jsy/car/131040635.html Feb- 3 1987 Mercedes 300E TURBO DIESEL - $5900http://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/car/130939567.html pic Feb- 3 1983 Mercedes 300SD - $750http://newyork.craigslist.org/wch/car/130892239.html (New Rochelle) Feb- 3 93 mercedes benz--- - $8200http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/car/130860900.html (manhattan) Feb- 2 looking for a mercedes diesel 1992 or abovehttp://newyork.craigslist.org/que/car/130714243.html (queens) Feb- 2 Year: 1999 Mercedes-Benz E-Class - $4500http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/car/130594115.html pic Feb- 2 1982 300D Mercedes Benz Turbo Diesel - $2300http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/car/130552116.html (NYC) pic Feb- 1 1991 Mercedes Benz 350SD Turbo Diesel - $8500http://newyork.craigslist.org/jsy/car/130300925.html (new jersey) -- Anthony
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 3, Issue 31
-- Message: 4 Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 14:21:05 -0600 From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] B20 To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 In Iowa, they sell a winter mix of 30% #1 and 70% #2. On 2/3/06, Roger Conlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- From: LT Don During my lunch break, I drove to our town's truck stop (a five mile round trip from my office) intent on giving the 240D its first taste of B20 fuel. The biodiesel was gone from the sign, replaced by #1 diesel. Went in and asked if they still had B20, and was told that they wouldn't be carrying it again until spring. I took that to mean that they are using the B20's storage tank for #1 diesel during the winter months. Bummer. -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle -- Thats strange I've be running B20 as my winter fuel. Roger _ Humboldt,Ia does not get that much colder than Carroll Roger _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
[MBZ] jc whitney cis fuel pressure tester
So who has used this thing? Does it work? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
[MBZ] b20
-- Message: 4 Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 14:21:05 -0600 From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] B20 To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 In Iowa, they sell a winter mix of 30% #1 and 70% #2. On 2/3/06, Roger Conlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- From: LT Don During my lunch break, I drove to our town's truck stop (a five mile round trip from my office) intent on giving the 240D its first taste of B20 fuel. The biodiesel was gone from the sign, replaced by #1 diesel. Went in and asked if they still had B20, and was told that they wouldn't be carrying it again until spring. I took that to mean that they are using the B20's storage tank for #1 diesel during the winter months. Bummer. That should of said Humboldt,Ia does not get that much colder than Jefferson. Sorry Roger _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
[MBZ] Nitske books at Used Book Store
Often quoted, I saw a 46-83 Production Model book for $30. About 2 pages on each of the models delivered to the US during that period. Prices, specifications, numbers sold, etc with pictures. Over 200 pages. I also saw the Nitske Mercedes Benz reference book for $46 and it was signed. I am not familiar with this book but it is thicker than the one above. Both are in very clean condition. Since he has passed on, I guess his exclusivity in guaranteed! I do not know if these are a good value or not. If anyone is interested in either, I could acquire the book and mail it to you at my cost, assuming they are still there. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 262 K miles 98 ML 320, 140 K miles
[MBZ] Blackstone diesel
Hi, All. If anyone in the Boston area wants to see a Lister/Blackstone diesel, there is one in the hospital area as a standby generator, right by the street with windows to look into. It's across Brookline Ave from the Deaconess Medical `Annex. One caveat, it was ten years ago that I last saw it. TTFN Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel Nut
Re: [MBZ] Blackstone diesel
I think that is called MATEP -- Medical Area Total Energy Plant. They make electricity, steam, chilled water, etc. from that and send it around to the hospitals in the area. It was put in maybe 20 yr ago? --R frederick w moir wrote: Hi, All. If anyone in the Boston area wants to see a Lister/Blackstone diesel, there is one in the hospital area as a standby generator, right by the street with windows to look into. It's across Brookline Ave from the Deaconess Medical `Annex. One caveat, it was ten years ago that I last saw it. TTFN Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel Nut ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Blackstone diesel
Right First Time! Give the guy a banana. http://www.matep.com/history.html Fred Moir Lynn MA (Not quite as stupid as some people think) I think that is called MATEP -- Medical Area Total Energy Plant. They make electricity, steam, chilled water, etc. from that and send it around to the hospitals in the area. It was put in maybe 20 yr ago? --R frederick w moir wrote: Hi, All. If anyone in the Boston area wants to see a Lister/Blackstone diesel, there is one in the hospital area as a standby generator, right by the street with windows to look into. It's across Brookline Ave from the Deaconess Medical `Annex. One caveat, it was ten years ago that I last saw it. TTFN Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel Nut
Re: [MBZ] jc whitney cis fuel pressure tester
On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 09:33:43 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So who has used this thing? Does it work? Any link to look at? Craig
Re: [MBZ] what IS the diesel noise?
On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 23:25:37 -0800 Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had the impression that there WAS no combustion front in a diesel in the sense that there is in a spark ignition engine... rather, all the fuel combusts simultaneously as it is sprayed into the hot air in the prechamber or cylinder at the top of the compression stroke. Always assumed THIS was the characteristic diesel noise---a sharper, louder sound when combustion takes place throughout the cylinder in one event, rather than being spread over a small but significant period of time. I had heard the opposite: that combustion in gasoline engines was rapid and that combustion in diesel engines was slower. The slower combustion, over much of the piston's downward travel, was what was supposed to give diesels the higher characteristic torque. Craig
[MBZ] did I get a bad belt tensioner?
Installed a new from Rusty belt tensioner on my SDL last week. Seemed ok for a day or 2 now I notice its rattling around REAL bad again, like a really worn out one does. Belt also squeeks a little. Did I get a bad on or do I need to look for something else?? If I pry against it while running it quiets down. I tried unhooking the bolt for the upper leaver where the spring goes and pryed that back a little while engine was running and that didnt seem to make a difference. This sucker is really loud, I thought I have a bad motor mount but prying on the tensioner makes the noise go away. Its mounted tight to the block, I figured it might have loosened up but no, its tight. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] did I get a bad belt tensioner?
Sounds like it's cooked, at least the bearing is. BTDT, I did not buy the T-Shirt. Change it before it goes FUBAR and takes something else with it. I once lost tha alternator front bearing because I didn't know what the noise was ;-(. THAT was the only time I walked home! Pete On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 10:48:01 -0600, you wrote: Installed a new from Rusty belt tensioner on my SDL last week. Seemed ok for a day or 2 now I notice its rattling around REAL bad again, like a really worn out one does. Belt also squeeks a little. Did I get a bad on or do I need to look for something else?? If I pry against it while running it quiets down. I tried unhooking the bolt for the upper leaver where the spring goes and pryed that back a little while engine was running and that didnt seem to make a difference. This sucker is really loud, I thought I have a bad motor mount but prying on the tensioner makes the noise go away. Its mounted tight to the block, I figured it might have loosened up but no, its tight.
Re: [MBZ] did I get a bad belt tensioner?
nevermind, I figured out the problem. The big washer thats supposed to go between the tensioner and the block was missing. I could have sworn I installed it but its nowhere to be found. Had to find another big washer and grind the hole out a little so it would fit around the bold of the tensioner. Fixing to put it back together but that should do it. Peter T. Arnold wrote: Sounds like it's cooked, at least the bearing is. BTDT, I did not buy the T-Shirt. Change it before it goes FUBAR and takes something else with it. I once lost tha alternator front bearing because I didn't know what the noise was ;-(. THAT was the only time I walked home! Pete On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 10:48:01 -0600, you wrote: Installed a new from Rusty belt tensioner on my SDL last week. Seemed ok for a day or 2 now I notice its rattling around REAL bad again, like a really worn out one does. Belt also squeeks a little. Did I get a bad on or do I need to look for something else?? If I pry against it while running it quiets down. I tried unhooking the bolt for the upper leaver where the spring goes and pryed that back a little while engine was running and that didnt seem to make a difference. This sucker is really loud, I thought I have a bad motor mount but prying on the tensioner makes the noise go away. Its mounted tight to the block, I figured it might have loosened up but no, its tight. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] jc whitney cis fuel pressure tester
Assuming it comes with adapters that function for your application, and the switch valve doesn't leak, it should work just fine--there's really not much to them. On 2/4/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So who has used this thing? Does it work? Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (207k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)
[MBZ] O/T Metropolitan Engine
Well, to tell the truth Rusty let me down. I need crankshaft Kit for
my Metropolitan and he has not had a special on one.
My car was one of the first 1,000. It has an early A-40 engine.
Next week I go to Cleveland to pick-up an engine that came out of a
running car about 3 years ago. It is not stuck.
I'm planning on a few ounces of Marvel Mystery oil in each cylinder,
turn over by hand to free up rings if required. I'll do this for
several days. I'll do a compression test {engine out of car) to judge
them.
I know that I should be dropping a M/B 2.4L diesel in this but I'd
have to convert it to floor shift. The sales literature for the car
assures the prospective owner that the column shift is much safer. The
major competition at the time was VW!
Thanks for any input.
--
Regards,
Peter T. Arnold
1987 300SDL 239KMI
1995 F-250 Power Choke 190Kmi
1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen
Wife has a Cruizer, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is!
Re: [MBZ] did I get a bad belt tensioner?
Kleb, Double check the spring and shock. The spring can break inside its rubber sleeve and result in too little tension. Bob DuPuy On 2/4/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nevermind, I figured out the problem. The big washer thats supposed to go between the tensioner and the block was missing. I could have sworn I installed it but its nowhere to be found. Had to find another big washer and grind the hole out a little so it would fit around the bold of the tensioner. Fixing to put it back together but that should do it. Peter T. Arnold wrote: Sounds like it's cooked, at least the bearing is. BTDT, I did not buy the T-Shirt. Change it before it goes FUBAR and takes something else with it. I once lost tha alternator front bearing because I didn't know what the noise was ;-(. THAT was the only time I walked home! Pete On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 10:48:01 -0600, you wrote: Installed a new from Rusty belt tensioner on my SDL last week. Seemed ok for a day or 2 now I notice its rattling around REAL bad again, like a really worn out one does. Belt also squeeks a little. Did I get a bad on or do I need to look for something else?? If I pry against it while running it quiets down. I tried unhooking the bolt for the upper leaver where the spring goes and pryed that back a little while engine was running and that didnt seem to make a difference. This sucker is really loud, I thought I have a bad motor mount but prying on the tensioner makes the noise go away. Its mounted tight to the block, I figured it might have loosened up but no, its tight. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] jc whitney cis fuel pressure tester
I have, Yes, with the exception that I couldn't connect it to the center tube to the fuel distributor - not enough room, so I connected it to the other end of the tube. Having spare pieces of fuel tubing now (extra engine parts and pieces) will make it much easier to use. On 2/4/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So who has used this thing? Does it work? -- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
Re: [MBZ] did I get a bad belt tensioner?
What he said, and check that the shock is still functional -- no damping, lots of jumping about -- On 2/4/06, Bob DuPuy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kleb, Double check the spring and shock. The spring can break inside its rubber sleeve and result in too little tension. Bob DuPuy -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
[MBZ] right or left
I'm getting my new to me 116 300SD fixed up. Even though it has been said the mounts are the same I got two differnt part number ones. The boxes have Mb part numbers on them, but Rusty's site only has the world pac numbers. one is 123 241 27 13 the other is 123 241 30 13. Can someone with a working epc tell me which is which? By the way this is my first 116 and I really like it! 150,000 mi good paint, clean rip free tex interior. All it needed way a master cylinder and hoses to make it road worthy. $250 at the YMCA. Heck even the AC works. Bob DuPuy
Re: [MBZ] right or left
On Sat, 4 Feb 2006 13:03:04 -0500 Bob DuPuy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm getting my new to me 116 300SD fixed up. Even though it has been said the mounts are the same I got two differnt part number ones. The boxes have Mb part numbers on them, but Rusty's site only has the world pac numbers. one is 123 241 27 13 the other is 123 241 30 13. Can someone with a working epc tell me which is which? Go to Rusty's site and enter the MB part number on the left side of the page. By the way this is my first 116 and I really like it! 150,000 mi good paint, clean rip free tex interior. All it needed way a master cylinder and hoses to make it road worthy. $250 at the YMCA. Heck even the AC works. Great deal! Craig
Re: [MBZ] right or left
First number is right, special to the 116 SD, the 2nd one would be left, but is also the same as right and left on every other model that uses those. Bob DuPuy wrote: I'm getting my new to me 116 300SD fixed up. Even though it has been said the mounts are the same I got two differnt part number ones. The boxes have Mb part numbers on them, but Rusty's site only has the world pac numbers. one is 123 241 27 13 the other is 123 241 30 13. Can someone with a working epc tell me which is which? By the way this is my first 116 and I really like it! 150,000 mi good paint, clean rip free tex interior. All it needed way a master cylinder and hoses to make it road worthy. $250 at the YMCA. Heck even the AC works. Bob DuPuy ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Drain exits
My 300CD has a sunroom installed by the PO. I added a hot tub and I want to clean the drains out. Which reminds me... I am also looking for the drain exits for the sunroof as well. Anyone know where they are? (Doh!) Bruce BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bruce - You have that wrong. SD's and SDL's have 'sunrooms'. CD's just have holes in the roof. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD EM 271k -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of B Dike Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 10:59 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] Drain exits Where are the sunroom drain exits for the 85 300CD? Many thanks, Bruce 82 300CD 334kmi 'His' 85 300CD 240kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 202kmi 'Donner' 77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' 73 220D 'It' - Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Bruce 82 300CD 334kmi 'His' 85 300CD 240kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 202kmi 'Donner' 77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' 73 220D 'It' - Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Feb 04 18:36:45 2006 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.202]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F5SH7-0001Gv-93 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 04 Feb 2006 18:36:45 + Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i6so1090640wra for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 04 Feb 2006 10:36:42 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=HMZXL1swCUEzgzmCfvu28utqZoNCuSREEgv7bRZjEFoeN18xPo8w+trT44hb+NaIrZO5iI5gOZ6SoyzhNbiTVQTqS8twdi3ApDldazkEm2jqjxCjppHdD1mxasNI+KOhL79ZSPwEc6ojfulJlwbo9F3DVEvJ+pYFq36MMHyHNH0= Received: by 10.54.81.18 with SMTP id e18mr5158009wrb; Sat, 04 Feb 2006 10:36:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.157.10 with HTTP; Sat, 4 Feb 2006 10:36:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 13:36:42 -0500 From: Bob DuPuy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] right or left X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 18:36:45 - CooL Thanks! Bob D. On 2/4/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First number is right, special to the 116 SD, the 2nd one would be left, but is also the same as right and left on every other model that uses those. Bob DuPuy wrote: I'm getting my new to me 116 300SD fixed up. Even though it has been said the mounts are the same I got two differnt part number ones. The boxes have Mb part numbers on them, but Rusty's site only has the world pac numbers. one is 123 241 27 13 the other is 123 241 30 13. Can someone with a working epc tell me which is which? By the way this is my first 116 and I really like it! 150,000 mi good paint, clean rip free tex interior. All it needed way a master cylinder and hoses to make it road worthy. $250 at the YMCA. Heck even the AC works. Bob DuPuy ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD,
[MBZ] Cheap Utah eBay 300d ending soon
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1,1item=4608602196sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT No affiliation, ect. This one may go for under $500 Rick Knoble '85 300 CD From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Feb 04 19:00:38 2006 Received: from imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.71]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F5SeE-0003mu-7n for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 04 Feb 2006 19:00:38 + Received: from ibm66aec.bellsouth.net ([192.168.16.253]) by imf23aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 4 Feb 2006 14:00:24 -0500 Received: from mail.bellsouth.net ([192.168.16.253]) by ibm66aec.bellsouth.net with SMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 4 Feb 2006 14:00:23 -0500 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.16.1 (webedge20-101-1106-101-20040924) X-Originating-IP: [68.18.175.211] From: Richard Murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 14:00:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240 d X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 19:00:38 - Joe, I have a 240D with a manual transmission. There are a lot of hills here and I don't think I would have bought it if it had had an automatic. When our 75 300D was decommission I test drove a 220D and thought there was something wrong with it but was assured that it was just slow. Richard Murdoch 82 240D 82 300TDt From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/02/04 Sat AM 01:30:43 EST To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240 d I am willing to check out cars around town. Nobody ends up buying them, except for Dave M., but who knows when that CL car will show up on the long list that needs delete keys I post every so often? On Friday, February 3, 2006, at 09:14 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: It seems like there are always loads of good cars over Seattle way. You're kinda close... Just keep your eyes peeled. Something will turn up and when you find something bounce it off of us...we won't be afraid to let you know if what your looking at is good or bad. Cautionthis is a lifestyle change! Bob Rentfro '77 300D 148K '01 VW Beetle TDI 61K Litchfield Park, AZ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 6:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240 d Hey everyone , you'll quickly realize what a neophyte i am ( Naive ? ) but here it goes i have always wanted a MBZ 240 D , in a 123 body style and it looks like this might be the year to find one ! i have'nt got a clue of what i should be looking for , i know what i want a 82 -83 240 D in yellow w/ sunroof and complimentary interior in pristine condition with as low a miles as possibly , is this doable ? any help on what i should be boning up on ? re books , manuals , tech notes ? and what tell tale signs on the actual vehicle i should look for any and all information welcomed Thanx . Joe Gomez . Boise Idaho ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 240D - Auto Trans Control Rod
Hi Tom,
One thing about the '79 240D - unless you have a manual trans you may have
the early style of AT control rod. There's a rod that runs from the IP to
the passenger side of the AT. There should be a plastic bushing in the rod
to remove any play. If the bushing is missing or damaged the AT will *not*
shift properly. It will upshift *way* too early and performance will be
poor. Also, it won;t downshift when it should again, causing poor
performance. Even the downshift button under the accelerator pedal will not
work properly. Trouble is, the bushing is not shown on the parts diagrams.
I finally found the part number thru MB Classic - let me know if you (or
anyone) needs the number. You local MB dealer can get one easily for $2 -
$2.50.
Later cars use vacuum to control shifting.
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)
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- Original Message -
From: Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 6:20 AM
Subject: [MBZ] 240 d
Three years ago I bought a 1977 300D from a guy in Maine who had it for
less
han six months. When I had test drove it I had never, never driven any
Mercedes anywhere new or old in my life. I fell in love with it and
bought
it.
A few reasons made me look. I had a little extra cash that year. I
figured
steam ships and trains went to diesel. My mechanic said man you drive so
much you should get a diesel car, but only a Mercedes diesel
I just purchased a 1979 240D with low mileage so it continues. By the way
I
have never had either to an authorized Mercedes Benz dealership. Much I
do
myself and with trusted mechanics.
If speed is you thing get a Porsche. If a steady safe ride on the highway
is your thing these cars are built for that. They are slow up hills but
faster than riding a bike so that is good news. Sometimes people get
impatient when it takes a few minutes to come up to highway speed.
Craig's list is a good source. Monkey adds, BigLot, Cars.com.
Autotrader
(look for private owner listings), eBay but it is a sellers market is
another source. Remember if looking for low mileage, extreme claims of
low
mileage require extreme proof (maintence records showing dates and
mileage/review title look for descrepancies), otherwise assume an odometer
has been changed out.
Regards Tom Scordato
Bellefonte PA
1977 300D
1979 240D
- Original Message -
From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 12:14 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240 d
It seems like there are always loads of good cars over Seattle way.
You're
kinda close...
Just keep your eyes peeled. Something will turn up and when you find
something bounce it off of us...we won't be afraid to let you know if
what
your looking at is good or bad.
Cautionthis is a lifestyle change!
Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 148K
'01 VW Beetle TDI 61K
Litchfield Park, AZ
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240 d
Hey everyone , you'll quickly realize what a neophyte i am ( Naive ? )
but
here it goes i have always wanted a MBZ 240 D , in a 123 body style and
it
looks like this might be the year to find one ! i have'nt got a clue of
what i
should be looking for , i know what i want a 82 -83 240 D in yellow w/
sunroof
and complimentary interior in pristine condition with as low a miles as
possibly , is this doable ? any help on what i should be boning up on ?
re books
, manuals , tech notes ? and what tell tale signs on the actual vehicle
i
should look for any and all information welcomed Thanx . Joe Gomez .
Boise
Idaho
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Re: [MBZ] How I found this Group
Peter wrote: I walked 2 miles to school, uphill both ways
Awww, that's *nothing*!! I had the same uphill 2 mile walk but it was
always snowing - even in the summer - except on those days it was unbearable
hot we could hardly stand it! It was always either too hot or too cold.
And for me it wasn;t the mill owner splashing my pants (the ones my disabled
mother made after picking the cotton, spinning it into thread and putting
the pants together piece by piece by the light of a candle) - it was the
owners illigitimate son who made my walk to school truely miserable -
driving by in his 200D belching black smoke as he laughingly splashed me -
in the muddy, melted snow (in case you were wondering)!
And we were so poor the pants she made were my Christmas gift - so
thoughtfullly made with one pocket missing - so I'd have something to wear
and something to play with. ;-p
While I cannot imagine the humiliation you suffered while studying to become
a world class accordian musician, I did suffer - so there.
Now, how I discovered this list? I started (as a young child as it were) on
the MBCA list in the early days of the internet and discussion groups.
Then, the MBCA raised their rates to $45/year without any appropriate
increase in benefits. Once I left the club I had to find another list - at
the time several listers were leaving and someone suggested this list. I
think it might have been Marshall.
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)
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- Original Message -
From: Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 4:40 PM
Subject: [MBZ] How I found this Group
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Would be interesting to find out how people came to be on this list(or
¢ the previous mbz.org)
When I was young, I walked 2 miles to school, uphill both ways. The
rich guy who owned the mill would drive his Mercedes by and splash mud
on the pants my dear Mother had made me. Some day I was going to be
like him.
I swore than to make it big as an accordion player, doing weddings,
funerals and retirement parties (from the mill) to earn big bucks.
Diligence has it's rewards, I was able to purchase a 10 year old IBM
8088 for it's original values, you see the mill owners son had opened
a computer store in the center of town, next to his sister's Bordello
that I had a day gig in.
It was an exciting time, I mastered AOL in 6 months flat!
A Giggle search helped me find the list in about 1999. I lurked for 3
weeks, so as to find all of the inner secrets of the Klatta
Brotherhood as we are known to the outer world. I found out that
Diesel fuel was much cheaper than regular gas, M/B parts were readily
available, and even even a cowboy from Oklahoma could handle repairs!
I was also learned of this Trusty Rusty fellow who scratched out a
living in central Georgia selling M/B parts, cars and BBQ. {I must
digress, being a northerner; I feel a certain responsibility to
support the revival of the South. To this day I still drink nothing
but Kentucky Whiskey}
Rusty had a very nice 300SDL, the deal was consummated. Wife and I
flew down, jumped into the car and drove it like we stole it.
Regrets, I have a few;
We never made a BBQ
Sorry Willie!
I really should have looked harder for a 240D Manny. I actually meet
an old fellow in New Hampshire who was driving a mid80's with 58,000
miles on it. He had bought it new and stored it in the barn during
salt season it had -0- rust!. I offered him obscene money for it
{$5,000}. He promised to keep my name next to his registration in the
event he is forced to sell. More my type of car, I like simple things.
I've never had a Yo-Yo I couldn't fix.
I should have painted my car a week after I got it.
Nice group of folks on this list, even the contrary ones are not rude.
I've driven my car about 100,000 miles. Not a cheap ride but very
reliable if you pay attention and do maintenance in a timely manor. My
wife likes to ride but not drive it. She is very uncomfortable with
the lethargic acceleration from rest.
That's my story, I'm sticking to it!
Pete Arnold
Windsor, CT
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Re: [MBZ] what IS the diesel noise?
Craig McCluskey wrote: I had heard the opposite: that combustion in gasoline engines was rapid and that combustion in diesel engines was slower. The slower combustion, over much of the piston's downward travel, was what was supposed to give diesels the higher characteristic torque. I believe the higher torque and higher noise both come from higher cylinder pressures, which is also the reason why diesel engines weigh more.
Re: [MBZ] did I get a bad belt tensioner?
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Installed a new from Rusty belt tensioner on my SDL last week. Seemed ok for a day or 2 now I notice its rattling around REAL bad again, like a really worn out one does. Belt also squeeks a little. Did I get a bad on or do I need to look for something else?? If I pry against it while running it quiets down. I tried unhooking the bolt for the upper leaver where the spring goes and pryed that back a little while engine was running and that didnt seem to make a difference. This sucker is really loud, I thought I have a bad motor mount but prying on the tensioner makes the noise go away. Its mounted tight to the block, I figured it might have loosened up but no, its tight. A perfect tensioner will make a racket if the shock or shock bushings are bad, if the idler or idler bearing is bad or if one of the belt driven accessories is binding. Of course the tensioner fastening screw can come loose, the timing cover threads can strip or the tensioner bearings can fail. I've had ALL of those happen in just 7 different OM60x engines (with only a little more than a total of a million miles on them). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] 116 YMCA deal!
In a message dated 2/4/2006 11:03:30 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: By the way this is my first 116 and I really like it! 150,000 mi good paint, clean rip free tex interior. All it needed way a master cylinder and hoses to make it road worthy. $250 at the YMCA. Heck even the AC works. Bob, You got a heck of a great deal on that 116! Take good care of it and it will keep you safe. I have had mine for over 20 years. Mine will have to go soon and it will not go for $500! Maybe $4500. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 262 K miles 98 ML 320, 140 K miles
Re: [MBZ] did I get a bad belt tensioner?
The rubber bushings that the bolts go through. I can not remember if the new shock comes with them. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 2:25 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] did I get a bad belt tensioner? what rubber mounts? Idler spins fine. Trampas wrote: Check the rubber mounts. This is what I have found rattles. Also spin idler to check for binding Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 1:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] did I get a bad belt tensioner? Well nevermind my neverming, I just found the washer, it fell out when I removed the tensioner. It was there, just fell out. Still rattles. Tensioner doesnt seem to have any play really, is straight and not cockeyed. The shock seems to dampen. At least its hard to push it in. Wondered about the spring. Im wondering if its not keeping proper tension. As I said before, i removed the top bolt and tried prying it back (to give it more tension), it seems to make a very small difference but not that much. That little bit I could pry it back might not be enough though. Guess I should put a new shock and spring on it and see what it does. OK Don wrote: What he said, and check that the shock is still functional -- no damping, lots of jumping about -- On 2/4/06, Bob DuPuy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kleb, Double check the spring and shock. The spring can break inside its rubber sleeve and result in too little tension. Bob DuPuy -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 116 YMCA deal!
Thanks Jim, I've had a 115, a 123, a 124, and a bunch of 126s, but I've always steered clear of the older S class cars. When a friend called to say he'd seen an old benz at the Y for $300. I figured I'd get it for one of my kids. It turned out to be so nice though, I'll keep it for myself. Of course, I'm such a cheap old bastard I had to offer less than they were asking. It is a good thing I got it too, the SDL just manifested either a blown head gasket or the infamous #14 head problem. I'm sure it was out of jealousy of me paying attention to another S class. Bob DuPuy Parrish, FL On 2/4/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/4/2006 11:03:30 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: By the way this is my first 116 and I really like it! 150,000 mi good paint, clean rip free tex interior. All it needed way a master cylinder and hoses to make it road worthy. $250 at the YMCA. Heck even the AC works. Bob, You got a heck of a great deal on that 116! Take good care of it and it will keep you safe. I have had mine for over 20 years. Mine will have to go soon and it will not go for $500! Maybe $4500. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 262 K miles 98 ML 320, 140 K miles ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] How I found this Group
Me thinks your the kid I hit in the head with a rock I throwed.
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Regards,
Peter T. Arnold
1987 300SDL 239KMI
1995 F-250 PowerChoke 190Kmi
1954 Mertopolitan Convertable, Hanger Queen
Wife has a Cruizer, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is!
On Sat, 4 Feb 2006 15:00:21 -0500, you wrote:
Peter wrote: I walked 2 miles to school, uphill both ways
Awww, that's *nothing*!! I had the same uphill 2 mile walk but it was
always snowing - even in the summer - except on those days it was unbearable
hot we could hardly stand it! It was always either too hot or too cold.
And for me it wasn;t the mill owner splashing my pants (the ones my disabled
mother made after picking the cotton, spinning it into thread and putting
the pants together piece by piece by the light of a candle) - it was the
owners illigitimate son who made my walk to school truely miserable -
driving by in his 200D belching black smoke as he laughingly splashed me -
in the muddy, melted snow (in case you were wondering)!
And we were so poor the pants she made were my Christmas gift - so
thoughtfullly made with one pocket missing - so I'd have something to wear
and something to play with. ;-p
While I cannot imagine the humiliation you suffered while studying to become
a world class accordian musician, I did suffer - so there.
Now, how I discovered this list? I started (as a young child as it were) on
the MBCA list in the early days of the internet and discussion groups.
Then, the MBCA raised their rates to $45/year without any appropriate
increase in benefits. Once I left the club I had to find another list - at
the time several listers were leaving and someone suggested this list. I
think it might have been Marshall.
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D)
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- Original Message -
From: Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 4:40 PM
Subject: [MBZ] How I found this Group
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Would be interesting to find out how people came to be on this list(or
¢ the previous mbz.org)
When I was young, I walked 2 miles to school, uphill both ways. The
rich guy who owned the mill would drive his Mercedes by and splash mud
on the pants my dear Mother had made me. Some day I was going to be
like him.
I swore than to make it big as an accordion player, doing weddings,
funerals and retirement parties (from the mill) to earn big bucks.
Diligence has it's rewards, I was able to purchase a 10 year old IBM
8088 for it's original values, you see the mill owners son had opened
a computer store in the center of town, next to his sister's Bordello
that I had a day gig in.
It was an exciting time, I mastered AOL in 6 months flat!
A Giggle search helped me find the list in about 1999. I lurked for 3
weeks, so as to find all of the inner secrets of the Klatta
Brotherhood as we are known to the outer world. I found out that
Diesel fuel was much cheaper than regular gas, M/B parts were readily
available, and even even a cowboy from Oklahoma could handle repairs!
I was also learned of this Trusty Rusty fellow who scratched out a
living in central Georgia selling M/B parts, cars and BBQ. {I must
digress, being a northerner; I feel a certain responsibility to
support the revival of the South. To this day I still drink nothing
but Kentucky Whiskey}
Rusty had a very nice 300SDL, the deal was consummated. Wife and I
flew down, jumped into the car and drove it like we stole it.
Regrets, I have a few;
We never made a BBQ
Sorry Willie!
I really should have looked harder for a 240D Manny. I actually meet
an old fellow in New Hampshire who was driving a mid80's with 58,000
miles on it. He had bought it new and stored it in the barn during
salt season it had -0- rust!. I offered him obscene money for it
{$5,000}. He promised to keep my name next to his registration in the
event he is forced to sell. More my type of car, I like simple things.
I've never had a Yo-Yo I couldn't fix.
I should have painted my car a week after I got it.
Nice group of folks on this list, even the contrary ones are not rude.
I've driven my car about 100,000 miles. Not a cheap ride but very
reliable if you pay attention and do maintenance in a timely manor. My
wife likes to ride but not drive it. She is very uncomfortable with
the lethargic acceleration from rest.
That's my story, I'm sticking to it!
Pete Arnold
Windsor, CT
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Re: [MBZ] 116 YMCA deal!
Hi Bob, Jim and I are fairly close to one another here in Phoenix and I also have a 116, 1980 300SD. But, I'm not selling mine. She has been ultra dependable for 16 years and now clocks in at 348,000 miles. Like you I am wondering when/if she's gonna' bite me since I just bought a 190E 2.3 16V gasser.. So far they've appeared to be compatible parked next to each other in the garage. Welcome to the 116 gang. Only about 25,000 were imported in 78/79/80.. Take care, Chuck Phoenix, AZ On Feb 4, 2006, at 3:29 PM, Bob DuPuy wrote: Thanks Jim, I've had a 115, a 123, a 124, and a bunch of 126s, but I've always steered clear of the older S class cars. When a friend called to say he'd seen an old benz at the Y for $300. I figured I'd get it for one of my kids. It turned out to be so nice though, I'll keep it for myself. Of course, I'm such a cheap old bastard I had to offer less than they were asking. It is a good thing I got it too, the SDL just manifested either a blown head gasket or the infamous #14 head problem. I'm sure it was out of jealousy of me paying attention to another S class. Bob DuPuy Parrish, FL On 2/4/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/4/2006 11:03:30 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: By the way this is my first 116 and I really like it! 150,000 mi good paint, clean rip free tex interior. All it needed way a master cylinder and hoses to make it road worthy. $250 at the YMCA. Heck even the AC works. Bob, You got a heck of a great deal on that 116! Take good care of it and it will keep you safe. I have had mine for over 20 years. Mine will have to go soon and it will not go for $500! Maybe $4500. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 262 K miles 98 ML 320, 140 K miles ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] did I get a bad belt tensioner?
On Saturday, February 4, 2006, at 12:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: nevermind, I figured out the problem. The big washer thats supposed to go between the tensioner and the block was missing. I could have sworn I installed it but its nowhere to be found. Had to find another big washer and grind the hole out a little so it would fit around the bold of the tensioner. Fixing to put it back together but that should do it. I was going to ask about the spacer. Let me guess you took it apart long before you put it back together? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] 116 YMCA deal!
On 2/4/06, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welcome to the 116 gang. Only about 25,000 were imported in 78/79/80.. Is that counting just diesels, or all 116s? Seems like I see 450SELs all the time, but not so many 300SDs. (Although I can't imagine all those 450SEL owners are too happy these days---must be getting 15 mpg if they're lucky.) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo
Re: [MBZ] did I get a bad belt tensioner?
On Saturday, February 4, 2006, at 01:21 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Well nevermind my neverming, I just found the washer, it fell out when I removed the tensioner. It was there, just fell out. Still rattles. Tensioner doesnt seem to have any play really, is straight and not cockeyed. The shock seems to dampen. At least its hard to push it in. Wondered about the spring. Im wondering if its not keeping proper tension. As I said before, i removed the top bolt and tried prying it back (to give it more tension), it seems to make a very small difference but not that much. That little bit I could pry it back might not be enough though. Guess I should put a new shock and spring on it and see what it does. Check everything that the belt drives, could have a bad bearing in any of it. FWIW The water pump on my wife's Jeep started pissing like a racehorse yesterday, never made a peep. When I changed it today the bearing was so bad the impeller ate into the housing about 3/8. It was quiet as a church mouse when I pulled it in to work on it this morning. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] did I get a bad belt tensioner?
On Saturday, February 4, 2006, at 02:25 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: what rubber mounts? Idler spins fine. I'll guess he means the shock bushings. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] 116 YMCA deal!
Alex, That's just the 300SD model. It was gas crisis time and MB decided they wanted an S Class diesel in the US Take care, Chuck Phoenix, AZ '80 300SD '86 190E 2.3 16V On Feb 4, 2006, at 4:15 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On 2/4/06, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welcome to the 116 gang. Only about 25,000 were imported in 78/79/80.. Is that counting just diesels, or all 116s? Seems like I see 450SELs all the time, but not so many 300SDs. (Although I can't imagine all those 450SEL owners are too happy these days---must be getting 15 mpg if they're lucky.) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
