Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics)
Actually the new S600 weighs in at over 5,000 pounds and thats with a V12 Harry 69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles 72 350SL 118,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 11:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics) S Class is about 3800 lbs, plus occupants and luggage -- that's what the SDL is listed for, the new ones won't be any heavier. Not a Suburban. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Generator voltage spikes
Mitch Haley wrote: Jim Cathey wrote: Yes. This fellow had a 220V generator that did _not_ have a center tap, which meant that unless the two 110V sides of the home's wiring were _exactly_ balanced as to load (and they never, ever are) one side was going to see more than 110V, and one less. Up to and probably including 200+V on one side. So if I were to hook up a 100W light to one half of the 240 outlet on such a genny, I'd get 0v through the lamp and 240v on the open side? Now I understand why the motor repair guy told me to do that for a test. Yeah, although in that case no current would flow. With no center tap, everything on one side of the outlet is simply in series with everything on the other side. In series loads, the current is the same but the voltage varies. So if you put two 100W bulbs in, one on each side, they'd split the voltage 50/50 and each would get 120V. But if you put in one 100W bulb and one 60W bulb, the 100W bulb will see 90V and the 60W bulb will see 150V. The greater the imbalance gets, the higher the voltage difference will become. And in a household this would vary as stuff was turned on and off, making matters worse.
Re: [MBZ] correct name?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes something about a car door people think they are closing a 300 lb door on a ship, never understood the need to SLAM A CAR DOOR I think it's because everyone, at one time or another, has had an old junker where the door wouldn't latch unless they slammed it.
Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually the new S600 weighs in at over 5,000 pounds and thats with a V12 Wasn't the original S600 (W140) more like 6,000#? Mitch.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Generator voltage spikes
I have a question about these non center tapped generators. How do the 110-120v outlets work on these, or do they even have 120v outlets? Mitch.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Generator voltage spikes
I have a question about these non center tapped generators. How do the 110-120v outlets work on these, or do they even have 120v outlets? They wouldn't/couldn't. But the lack of a center tap could be because it's broken, not because it shouldn't have one. Best to check! And of course your self-made cable-of-death could be wrong, and fry your house goodies. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Holy Photos Batman!
But did you get a photo album with it? Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Bissell Cove Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ralph W Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 6:03 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holy Photos Batman! Wow, compared to this one I got the deal of the century on Zedic's wagon. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts wagons) '90 300D '01 E320 Wagon '87 300TD - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holy Photos Batman! Mileage 239 K Asking price is $9750 Patrick is the sales rep No records ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How heavy?
PF opines: S Class is about 3800 lbs, plus occupants and luggage -- that's what the SDL is listed for, the new ones won't be any heavier. Curb weight for the current C350 is 3495 lbs while the new S550's curb weight is 4465 lbs. And that's with some aluminum and some plastic panels. RLE
Re: [MBZ] Squashed..
Could have been worse, could have been hit by a truck without crumple zone. Ohh what a feeling, squashed like a bug. True enough. Take a look at www.wreckedexotics.com and click on bad crashes. Quite a few obliterated MBs on this site. RLE
Re: [MBZ] weights
C = 1500kg E = 1650kg S = 1950kg All out of date. Go to MBUSA.com for weights of current US models. RLE
Re: [MBZ] Radio auto-off
In a message dated 12/21/06 3:58:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: off w. ign. sw. off???; i thought that these radios were wired to only work when key is turned on??? anyone heard of this before; A nice thing about the semi-stock Becker I put into the 190D is that it'll come on, key off, just by pushing the ON button again. They're wired to run off of either power feed, it's really quite elegant. Current models and maybe back 10 years have auto shutoff on OE radios. Turn it on with the key off and it shuts down after a pre-determined time which escapes me. Maybe 15 minutes, can't recall. RLE
Re: [MBZ] more avoirdupois
Actually the new S600 weighs in at over 5,000 pounds and thats with a V12 4895 lbs, ectually. '07 S550 4465 lbs Early 140 S320 4610 lbs. Early 140 S600 wins the lard-ass championship at 4985 lbs. All numbers from the MBUSA website. RLE
[MBZ] Oh Kaleb!
And it's in OK. http://cgi.ebay.ca/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-Diesel-300TD-12-1984-Mercedes-300TD-5-cyl-Turbo-Diesel-Wagon_W0QQitemZ300061775887QQihZ020QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Tim 1982 300TD 1991 300TE 4Matic
Re: [MBZ] weights
Everything is bigger in the US and bigger again in Texas. Guess they have to strengthen everything to cope with the huge people and supersized take away food. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] weights C = 1500kg E = 1650kg S = 1950kg All out of date. Go to MBUSA.com for weights of current US models. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wive's Preferences
Yep, my wife tells me to buy her a CD some day. I'd love to. Oh, and I should not have assumed folks had wives. Up until a year or two ago I didn't (and thought I'd never get married). Stern warnings against it flow from my divorced friends and family. Brian 83 240D hoping for supernatural assistance in making marriage work Andrew wrote: My sig oth asked me to find her dream car - a 300CD turbodiesel.
Re: [MBZ] 190D pics
Bob, hope your procedures go well. The topic of wisdom teeth is of high interest to me, as I still have my two lower ones at age 36. I had the top two pulled because they each had a cavity. Am weighing the risks against the benefits of having the lower ones pulled (you probably know that the lower ones are more risky). I ask my dentist and oral surgeon if these two lower wisdom teeth will give me trouble of any sort between now and my funeral. It's quite hard to get any concrete answer (I'm just looking for their opinion, but I've run into a lot of hesitancy to give opinions on the part of healthcare professionals). Brian Bob wrote: let's see...I need three wisdom teeth cut out (snip)
Re: [MBZ] Wive's Preferences
My secret to longevity in my marriage of 30 yrs is She doesn't have to know that I'm right. :-) Mike - Original Message - From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 3:08 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wive's Preferences Yep, my wife tells me to buy her a CD some day. I'd love to. Oh, and I should not have assumed folks had wives. Up until a year or two ago I didn't (and thought I'd never get married). Stern warnings against it flow from my divorced friends and family. Brian 83 240D hoping for supernatural assistance in making marriage work Andrew wrote: My sig oth asked me to find her dream car - a 300CD turbodiesel. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wive's Preferences
My secret is the lesser of evils-36 years when first married I told my wife that some men chase home young women-others bring old cars home. Consider herself lucky. Worked. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Bissell Cove Wickford RI 02852 1979 240D 1990 300D 2.5t -Original Message- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] considering brake repair....
Hi Allen, As Loren suggested, it's pretty simple. Even rebuilding the calipers is not very difficult. Get the correct size Flare Wrench - I believe it's 11mm - Sears has a pack of 2 with the 4 most common sizes - they'll prevent damage to the flare nuts. You must not split the caliper halves - the pistons will come out without splitting the calipers - remove the old o-rings and dust boots, clean everything using brake fluid or brake cleaner - avoid breathing the dust. Inspect the pistons and bores - if they have gotten moisture in them there may be corrosion making the pistons difficult to move - which typically causes seizing. Minor corrosion can be cleaned up with fine emory cloth - I use a fine wire brush in a bench grinder - the important thing it to not remove any base metal or the pistons will be ruined - same for the bores. Too much aggressive cleaning and the calipers will need to be replaced. Installation is (as Haynes like to say) the reverse of disassembly. The only one likely to be difficult it the one already seized. Proceed carefully and you shouldn;t have any problems. Feel free to write me directly if you wish. Since all 4 need attention, put jack stands under each corner and work on one corner at a time. once all 4 are done, refill the system with a quality brake fluid -- and bleed the brakes. I like the blue ATE fluid but that a personal preference and any DOT4 will work but alternating between the blue and regular makes the yearly flushing easier - when the color changes you know fresh fluid is at the caliper. BTW, I'd replace all 4 rotors rather than machining the rears and replacing the fronts. New rotors are not that much and some shops have old equipment that does not do the machining perfectly causing vibrations that never stop. true, it's unlikely, but the price of new rotors is pretty good - as low as $17 each for rear rotors. Anyway - after completing one caliper rebuild you'll have plenty of confidence and the remaining 3 will go pretty quickly. BYW, new bleed valves, pad pins and anti-rattle springs can be ordered from Rusty if yours are questionable - sometimes the bleed valves get screwed up when mechanics use vise grips to loosen them --- Also, there are some automatic/self bleeding bleed valves which fit the MB - haven;t tried them yet but the concept is sound. It makes one man bleeding easy - unless you have a pressure bleeder which means your bleeding will go quickly anyway - Good luck - That $1000 will look good in your checkbook!! Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 2:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] considering brake repair Argh -- screwed up my from email address on that last post. Corrected now... Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Long time since I posted -- been busy, occasionally glancing at the digests Anyway, I just got a quote from my mechanic for about $1,400 for complete brake replacement on my '83 300D. He says 3 of 4 calipers are leaking and the 4th is about to sieze. Quote would include: 4 rebuilt calipers new pads new sensors new front rotors resurface rear rotors labor... I can get all the parts from Rusty for probably $400 or so. I don't want to begrudge the guy his livelihood, he is a good mechanic and I know that shops use the parts markup to help cover overhead. HOWEVER -- not sure I want to put $1,400 into this car, though it has not even 170,000 miles on it and I have no real complaints otherwise. Thoughts? Anything tricky about the job? I've done pads and calipers on other vehicles before. If I spend a Saturday doing this myself, anything else I should do while I'm in there? Hoses, probably? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.26/594 - Release Date: 12/20/2006
[MBZ] Automotive Calculations
I found this webpage which provides all kinds of automotive related conversion factors - mpg's, screw sizes, velocity, TSD etc. http://www.csgnetwork.com/automotiveconverters.html Enjoy -- HTHs Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ .
[MBZ] Xmas Cars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHIeH8wTWjI Tim 1982 300TD 1991 300TE 4Matic
Re: [MBZ] Wive's Preferences
That must be that New England Common Sense. Bob R. - Original Message - From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 5:47 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wive's Preferences My secret is the lesser of evils-36 years when first married I told my wife that some men chase home young women-others bring old cars home. Consider herself lucky. Worked. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Bissell Cove Wickford RI 02852 1979 240D 1990 300D 2.5t -Original Message- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics)
Is there anything bigger than a V12? On 12/21/06, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually the new S600 weighs in at over 5,000 pounds and thats with a V12 Wasn't the original S600 (W140) more like 6,000#? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D pics/choppers
When I was 36 (a decade ago), I was wondering the exact same thing since none of my wisdom teeth were giving me any trouble. My dentist told me waiting/doing nothing was a crap shoot. He suggested pulling them at that time to prevent the misery I'm going through now. If you are diligent about going to the dentist for your routine stuff he/she should be able to see if something is starting to go south and you can deal with it then. Then hopefully you won't have to get thre wisdom teeth cut out one impacted wisdom tooth hacked out, two root canals done, and a random extraction. Starting the day after Christmas it's a dental care marathon for me. BTW...found out I'm one of the people who can't handle vicodin. Not pretty. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 164K '87 Acura Legend 179K Litchfield Park, AZ - Original Message - From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 1:17 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D pics Bob, hope your procedures go well. The topic of wisdom teeth is of high interest to me, as I still have my two lower ones at age 36. I had the top two pulled because they each had a cavity. Am weighing the risks against the benefits of having the lower ones pulled (you probably know that the lower ones are more risky). I ask my dentist and oral surgeon if these two lower wisdom teeth will give me trouble of any sort between now and my funeral. It's quite hard to get any concrete answer (I'm just looking for their opinion, but I've run into a lot of hesitancy to give opinions on the part of healthcare professionals). Brian Bob wrote: let's see...I need three wisdom teeth cut out (snip) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oh Kaleb!
I have been watching it. TimothyPilgrim wrote: And it's in OK. http://cgi.ebay.ca/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-Diesel-300TD-12-1984-Mercedes-300TD-5-cyl-Turbo-Diesel-Wagon_W0QQitemZ300061775887QQihZ020QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Tim 1982 300TD 1991 300TE 4Matic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, (2x) 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics)
Depends on the size of the V12. If you're merely talking cylinders then I know there's a V-16. I kinda think there's a V-18 or maybe a W-18 out there as well. And then if you're not limited to cars there's more yet! (: Levi On 12/22/06, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anything bigger than a V12? On 12/21/06, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually the new S600 weighs in at over 5,000 pounds and thats with a V12 Wasn't the original S600 (W140) more like 6,000#? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D pics
Really? When I broke my wrist a couple years ago they gave me vicadin. My wrist hurt so bad it was hard to compose my thoughts enough to talk. The vicadin didn't take the pain away but put me into a place where I didn't care. It did take a long time to kick in though. I remember sitting in agony for about 30 minutes. Just as I got thinking I NEED ANOTHER ONE WHAM I was on my butt... Took 2 once, couldn't get out of bed for a day, had to crawl to the bathroom to pee... -Curt Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 09:16:09 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D pics To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original The prescribed vicadin is not cutting it... Bob R __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Dec 22 15:40:43 2006 Received: from eastrmmtao03.cox.net ([68.230.240.36]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GxmVn-0008NM-3D for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:40:43 + Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by eastrmmtao03.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.06.03 201-2131-130-104-20060516) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 10:37:36 -0500 Received: from 57QCVB1 ([70.172.209.18]) by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id 1rcT1W00n0QMj3a000; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 10:36:28 -0500 From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 10:38:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: Accl3gRkIwJD31TrSyqu6Kl7tPfvxgAAHiqw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics) X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:40:43 - Lincoln made a v-16, late 30's I think. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Bissell Cove Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Levi Smith Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:29 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics) Depends on the size of the V12. If you're merely talking cylinders then I know there's a V-16. I kinda think there's a V-18 or maybe a W-18 out there as well. And then if you're not limited to cars there's more yet! (: Levi On 12/22/06, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anything bigger than a V12? On 12/21/06, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually the new S600 weighs in at over 5,000 pounds and thats with a V12 Wasn't the original S600 (W140) more like 6,000#? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Automotive Calculations
Larry - quite a list of conversions, but I didn't see Newton-meters to lb-ft (torque)! Werner - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com; 911/993/996 digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: The FerrariList [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 8:27 AM Subject: [MBZ] Automotive Calculations I found this webpage which provides all kinds of automotive related conversion factors - mpg's, screw sizes, velocity, TSD etc. http://www.csgnetwork.com/automotiveconverters.html
[MBZ] 16 cylinders?
So did GM(Cadillac), as recently as a one-off a couple years back at the Detroit auto show. The Volkswagen W-16, Bugatti And then there was Packard, etc.. Werner - Original Message - From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics) Lincoln made a v-16, late 30's I think. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Bissell Cove Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Levi Smith Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:29 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics) Depends on the size of the V12. If you're merely talking cylinders then I know there's a V-16. I kinda think there's a V-18 or maybe a W-18 out there as well. And then if you're not limited to cars there's more yet! (: Levi On 12/22/06, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anything bigger than a V12?
Re: [MBZ] Biodiesel Cold Weather Data Point
Ernest, I like your conclusions. I had similar symptoms when I first got my 190D this time last year. It'd start and run but had no get up and go until the engine had warmed the fuel for awhile. I bought the car in New Jersey in mid-December, it had been sitting for a few weeks. I think it had a tank of summer fuel in it. Its nice that the newer cars have the fuel-warming provision, otherwise, add anti-gell and hope. Once I'd run about 1/4 tank of good winter fuel through it (oh and a couple cans of purge) it was fine. -Curt Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 09:51:57 -0800 From: ernest breakfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Biodiesel Cold Weather Data Point To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed hi! did a little experimenting recently and thought i'd share some of the observations for the benefit of any/all. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Dec 22 15:48:29 2006 Received: from pop-scotia.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([207.69.195.65]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GxmdI-EI-Vv for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:48:29 + Received: from dialup-4.224.66.195.dial1.cincinnati1.level3.net ([4.224.66.195]) by pop-scotia.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1GxmaI-0002Rx-00 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 10:45:23 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 09:34:27 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D pics X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:48:29 - I had a similar experience with Percocets a couple years back. I had a kidney stone (avoid these, they are not worth the trouble!) and the doctor gave me some for pain. The dispenser at the drug store asked me if I took painkillers or narcotics of any kind, and I of course said no, why do you ask? He replied that I probably need to be in bed when I took the Percocets, then. I had an episode at 5 am, finally gave in a took two at 5:30. Within a minute I was comatose, woke up at 9:30 but couldn't focus both eyes at the same time in the same place, and finally managed to get to the phone at 10:00 and call in. For the life of me I cannot understand why someone would call abusing these things recreational. Suicidal the slow way is more like it, who wants to be incapacitated? Peter
Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics)
I believe Cadillac did too (sp?). Big, fuel hungry, weighed WAY too much, as they were simply two straight 8's on an expanded common crankshaft -- twin ignition systems, twin carb systems, the whole works. Hand start too, although Cadillac had an electric starter by then. Overheated all the time, almost impossible to get the timing right, and not that much more power that the new design V8s that started appearing shortly after. Peter
Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics)
I forgot about the older stuff. I was thinking of the Cizetta in particular: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2887200950074456788cssOBd It was interesting. Looked a lot like a Lambo, but had like 12 headlights or some such odd thing. Like 6 of them were pop-up units. Levi On 12/22/06, Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lincoln made a v-16, late 30's I think. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Bissell Cove Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Levi Smith Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:29 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics) Depends on the size of the V12. If you're merely talking cylinders then I know there's a V-16. I kinda think there's a V-18 or maybe a W-18 out there as well. And then if you're not limited to cars there's more yet! (: Levi On 12/22/06, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anything bigger than a V12? On 12/21/06, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually the new S600 weighs in at over 5,000 pounds and thats with a V12 Wasn't the original S600 (W140) more like 6,000#? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 16 cylinders?
I think that Packard did mostly, if not exclusively, V12s. Same story as the V16s, though -- twin everything but crankshafts. Peter
Re: [MBZ] 190D pics
Why are the lower ones more risky? The upper ones can allow a hole into your sinuses which is no fun. A friend of mine had that and was laid up for a week or two over it. I had 4 pulled when I was 21, no impaction to speak of. I could have driven home except we had to stop so I could throw up. They gave me all 4 teeth in a little baggie. -Curt Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 02:17:51 -0600 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D pics To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Bob, hope your procedures go well. The topic of wisdom teeth is of high interest to me, as I still have my two lower ones at age 36. I had the top two pulled because they each had a cavity. Am weighing the risks against the benefits of having the lower ones pulled (you probably know that the lower ones are more risky). I ask my dentist and oral surgeon if these two lower wisdom teeth will give me trouble of any sort between now and my funeral. It's quite hard to get any concrete answer (I'm just looking for their opinion, but I've run into a lot of hesitancy to give opinions on the part of healthcare professionals). Brian Bob wrote: let's see...I need three wisdom teeth cut out (snip) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Dec 22 16:20:00 2006 Received: from web32815.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.45]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gxn7o-0001OQ-05 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 16:20:00 + Received: (qmail 26488 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Dec 2006 16:16:54 - X-YMail-OSG: 6_LQLWQVM1kTY_LpAGSLRB10uVNDHX6CsWgH.6EzgsJSWnuJrY1tbU4iA_Nys_4Fr9MyWgegLscHn95Ap8IxEJNPq.befbM088mQsFj7irBC7O5khGo.KmXxiAkF4PZJ8_.AU.cEcnS2PhA- Received: from [198.51.119.130] by web32815.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 08:16:54 PST Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 08:16:54 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp1 Subject: Re: [MBZ] big engines - was- mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics) X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 16:20:01 - Speaking of engines with 2 of everything http://www.kingofobsolete.ca/V12_GMC_KoO_WEBSITE.htm -Curt Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 09:38:06 -0600 From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics) To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed I believe Cadillac did too (sp?). Big, fuel hungry, weighed WAY too much, as they were simply two straight 8's on an expanded common crankshaft -- twin ignition systems, twin carb systems, the whole works. Hand start too, although Cadillac had an electric starter by then. Overheated all the time, almost impossible to get the timing right, and not that much more power that the new design V8s that started appearing shortly after. Peter __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Dec 22 16:21:59 2006 Received: from eastrmmtao02.cox.net ([68.230.240.37]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gxn9g-0001WX-Jl for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 16:21:58 + Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by eastrmmtao02.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.06.03 201-2131-130-104-20060516) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:18:50 -0500 Received: from 57QCVB1 ([70.172.209.18]) by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id 1sHh1W01K0QMj3a000; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:17:42 -0500 From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:19:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: Accl5QGox7UfFbVaSVGeyZQs11TU/g== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft
Re: [MBZ] Biodiesel Cold Weather Data Point
Its nice that the newer cars have the fuel-warming provision, Even the old ones do, sort of. The fuel in the return line is warmed by its trip through the engine bits. A little. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Automotive Calculations
Werner pointed out that a converter was missing from my list - haven't tried to search all the links to confirm his comment but he's probably right - so here's a link that does convert torque (Newton Meters to lb ft); http://www.onlineconversion.com/ is also a very comprehensive list of conversion for all kinds of stuff - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Automotive Calculations Larry - quite a list of conversions, but I didn't see Newton-meters to lb-ft (torque)! Werner - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com; 911/993/996 digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: The FerrariList [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 8:27 AM Subject: [MBZ] Automotive Calculations I found this webpage which provides all kinds of automotive related conversion factors - mpg's, screw sizes, velocity, TSD etc. http://www.csgnetwork.com/automotiveconverters.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.26/597 - Release Date: 12/21/2006
[MBZ] Which Coolant Is MB-like? Rad Incoming Hursty
So now that I've installed the new, new radiator (one that does not leak, thank you Gary/Rusty), I need to top it off with coolant and I'm out of MB collant. Which one do I buy at the McParts which goes with MB coolant? Garyradiator incoming. Rusty...didn't get top radiator hose with new radiator. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 164K '87 Acura Legend 180K Litchfield Park, AZ From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Dec 22 16:34:21 2006 Received: from fed1rmmtao12.cox.net ([68.230.241.27]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GxnLh-00022l-6z for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 16:34:21 + Received: from fed1rmimpo02.cox.net ([70.169.32.72]) by fed1rmmtao12.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.06.03 201-2131-130-104-20060516) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:31:14 -0500 Received: from familycomp ([68.106.48.86]) by fed1rmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id 1sXT1W00i1raWR8000; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:31:27 -0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 09:31:23 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D pics X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 16:34:23 - They were, after three (or was it four) making me blow chunksworse than any cheap wine hammerfest I ever was on. I'm back to alternating 1500mg tylenol wait 2 hours, then 800mg of motrin, wait 2 hours repeat. Bob R - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 8:37 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D pics Really? When I broke my wrist a couple years ago they gave me vicadin. My wrist hurt so bad it was hard to compose my thoughts enough to talk. The vicadin didn't take the pain away but put me into a place where I didn't care. It did take a long time to kick in though. I remember sitting in agony for about 30 minutes. Just as I got thinking I NEED ANOTHER ONE WHAM I was on my butt... Took 2 once, couldn't get out of bed for a day, had to crawl to the bathroom to pee... -Curt Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 09:16:09 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D pics To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original The prescribed vicadin is not cutting it... Bob R __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Automotive Calculations
Google does a lot of conversions too. Though I couldn't get it to do ft-lb/n-m's (: Levi On 12/22/06, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Werner pointed out that a converter was missing from my list - haven't tried to search all the links to confirm his comment but he's probably right - so here's a link that does convert torque (Newton Meters to lb ft); http://www.onlineconversion.com/ is also a very comprehensive list of conversion for all kinds of stuff - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Automotive Calculations Larry - quite a list of conversions, but I didn't see Newton-meters to lb-ft (torque)! Werner - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com; 911/993/996 digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: The FerrariList [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 8:27 AM Subject: [MBZ] Automotive Calculations I found this webpage which provides all kinds of automotive related conversion factors - mpg's, screw sizes, velocity, TSD etc. http://www.csgnetwork.com/automotiveconverters.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.26/597 - Release Date: 12/21/2006 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D pics
I'm a hurler as the recovery nurse called me as I was coming to after having my shoulder repaired. I was yacking every where. Stopped several times on the way home to blow. When I had a hernia repaired, Dr. put some wicked dramimine type patch on me before they knocked me out and I yacked not upon coming to. I had to wear the patch for four days. Hopefully they can patch me when they hack out my choppers... Bob R - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D pics Why are the lower ones more risky? The upper ones can allow a hole into your sinuses which is no fun. A friend of mine had that and was laid up for a week or two over it. I had 4 pulled when I was 21, no impaction to speak of. I could have driven home except we had to stop so I could throw up. They gave me all 4 teeth in a little baggie. -Curt Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 02:17:51 -0600 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D pics To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Bob, hope your procedures go well. The topic of wisdom teeth is of high interest to me, as I still have my two lower ones at age 36. I had the top two pulled because they each had a cavity. Am weighing the risks against the benefits of having the lower ones pulled (you probably know that the lower ones are more risky). I ask my dentist and oral surgeon if these two lower wisdom teeth will give me trouble of any sort between now and my funeral. It's quite hard to get any concrete answer (I'm just looking for their opinion, but I've run into a lot of hesitancy to give opinions on the part of healthcare professionals). Brian Bob wrote: let's see...I need three wisdom teeth cut out (snip) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Which Coolant Is MB-like? Rad Incoming Hursty
zerex G-05 - available at NAPA (but not Autozone or Advance) On 12/22/06, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So now that I've installed the new, new radiator (one that does not leak, thank you Gary/Rusty), I need to top it off with coolant and I'm out of MB collant. Which one do I buy at the McParts which goes with MB coolant? Garyradiator incoming. Rusty...didn't get top radiator hose with new radiator. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 164K '87 Acura Legend 180K Litchfield Park, AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] Which Coolant Is MB-like? Rad Incoming Hursty
Donkey Shirts, Sunil - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Which Coolant Is MB-like? Rad Incoming Hursty zerex G-05 - available at NAPA (but not Autozone or Advance) On 12/22/06, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So now that I've installed the new, new radiator (one that does not leak, thank you Gary/Rusty), I need to top it off with coolant and I'm out of MB collant. Which one do I buy at the McParts which goes with MB coolant? Garyradiator incoming. Rusty...didn't get top radiator hose with new radiator. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 164K '87 Acura Legend 180K Litchfield Park, AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D pics
Hi Peter, Percocet is an amazing pain killer that helps a huge number of people though - the trick to taking it without dramatic side effects is to start slowly. Being unable to focus is a pretty severe side effect - good thing you were at home in bed when you took them - in hindsight, taking 2 may have been too much - but at least they stopped the stone pain. I've had kidney stones also - felt like I was dieing - I empathize and hope you don't have episodes very often. I have chronic pain unrelated to stones and started at 1 perc a day - eventually ended at 4 of the 10/650 size a day - when the morphine pump was implanted we gradually reduced it to 4 Perc of 10/325 strength - the 325 indicates the amount of acetomenphine in the pill which can be very bad for the kidneys when taken long term - total time for me is up to ~10 years. The morphine pump puts a continuous drip of morphine directly into my spine but I had to have it refilled monthly - to get better pain relief they changed it to Dilaudid which is more concentrated and the refills went to every 3 or 4 months - a big relief considering they had trouble finding the port and once made 7 attempts with the needle before finding it. No fun at all. The Dilaudid was a huge help in controlling pain and I have been able to gradually reduce the Percocets to 2/day and my kidneys thank me. ;-) Now, I only have 1 or 2 Bad days/week where before it was 3-5 bad days a week. They had me on Oxycontin for a while - but the criminal element makes that dangerous - some thugs were following people home and breaking in to steal it - Hillbilly Heroin it was called. But it was a great pain killer - most effective when it was built up over time. I hope the Kidney Stones are a rare event for you - it's amazing how much pain something so small can cause - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D pics I had a similar experience with Percocets a couple years back. I had a kidney stone (avoid these, they are not worth the trouble!) and the doctor gave me some for pain. The dispenser at the drug store asked me if I took painkillers or narcotics of any kind, and I of course said no, why do you ask? He replied that I probably need to be in bed when I took the Percocets, then. I had an episode at 5 am, finally gave in a took two at 5:30. Within a minute I was comatose, woke up at 9:30 but couldn't focus both eyes at the same time in the same place, and finally managed to get to the phone at 10:00 and call in. For the life of me I cannot understand why someone would call abusing these things recreational. Suicidal the slow way is more like it, who wants to be incapacitated? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.26/597 - Release Date: 12/21/2006
Re: [MBZ] correct name?
On Thu, 21 Dec 2006, Hendrik Riessen wrote: Depends on mood, not to worry the 123 loves having it's doors shut firmly. The last door to be closed on a w210 must be shut firmly or it won't latch fully. I attribute this to the quality of sealing around the doors. A w126 didn't mind firm closing, although properly adjusted doors don't need it. To my mind there is something WRONG about a car that won't let you shut the doors completely yourself (*cough*w140*cough*) ... why not just go all the way and make a johnnicab? -j.
Re: [MBZ] Which Coolant Is MB-like? Rad Incoming Hursty
It shipped separately. - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 11:28 AM Subject: [MBZ] Which Coolant Is MB-like? Rad Incoming Hursty So now that I've installed the new, new radiator (one that does not leak, thank you Gary/Rusty), I need to top it off with coolant and I'm out of MB collant. Which one do I buy at the McParts which goes with MB coolant? Garyradiator incoming. Rusty...didn't get top radiator hose with new radiator. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 164K '87 Acura Legend 180K Litchfield Park, AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Which Coolant Is MB-like? Rad Incoming Hursty
of course, the zerex is $12/gallon and the mb stuff is now about $24. hurts. On 12/22/06, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It shipped separately. - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 11:28 AM Subject: [MBZ] Which Coolant Is MB-like? Rad Incoming Hursty So now that I've installed the new, new radiator (one that does not leak, thank you Gary/Rusty), I need to top it off with coolant and I'm out of MB collant. Which one do I buy at the McParts which goes with MB coolant? Garyradiator incoming. Rusty...didn't get top radiator hose with new radiator. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 164K '87 Acura Legend 180K Litchfield Park, AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] Which Coolant Is MB-like? Rad Incoming Hursty
Ahh...10-4 - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Which Coolant Is MB-like? Rad Incoming Hursty It shipped separately. - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 11:28 AM Subject: [MBZ] Which Coolant Is MB-like? Rad Incoming Hursty So now that I've installed the new, new radiator (one that does not leak, thank you Gary/Rusty), I need to top it off with coolant and I'm out of MB collant. Which one do I buy at the McParts which goes with MB coolant? Garyradiator incoming. Rusty...didn't get top radiator hose with new radiator. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 164K '87 Acura Legend 180K Litchfield Park, AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics)
Hey, I also drive one of these... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=175672highlight=safety On 12/19/06, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://benzinsider.com/ Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
Re: [MBZ] 16 cylinders?
VW also built the W12 for the Phaeton Harry 69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles 72 350SL 118,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 9:43 AM Subject: [MBZ] 16 cylinders? So did GM(Cadillac), as recently as a one-off a couple years back at the Detroit auto show. The Volkswagen W-16, Bugatti And then there was Packard, etc.. Werner - Original Message - From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics) Lincoln made a v-16, late 30's I think. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Bissell Cove Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Levi Smith Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:29 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics) Depends on the size of the V12. If you're merely talking cylinders then I know there's a V-16. I kinda think there's a V-18 or maybe a W-18 out there as well. And then if you're not limited to cars there's more yet! (: Levi On 12/22/06, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anything bigger than a V12? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection.
Re: [MBZ] 190D pics
Another thing for me to be thankful of, I am decidedly not a hurler... I'd swallowed a bunch of blood at some point in having my wisdom teeth out. My stomach objected. Other than that I rarely yawn in technicolor. -Curt Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 09:36:44 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D pics To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original I'm a hurler as the recovery nurse called me as I was coming to after having my shoulder repaired. I was yacking every where. Stopped several times on the way home to blow. When I had a hernia repaired, Dr. put some wicked dramimine type patch on me before they knocked me out and I yacked not upon coming to. I had to wear the patch for four days. Hopefully they can patch me when they hack out my choppers... Bob R __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Dec 22 18:36:53 2006 Received: from imo-m19.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.11]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GxpGH-0006fU-MX for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 18:36:53 + Received: from [EMAIL PROTECTED] by imo-m19.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.6.) id s.c8a.3eee547 (57871) for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 13:33:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from FWM-R19 (fwm-r19.webmail.aol.com [152.163.211.147]) by air-ia02.mail.aol.com (v114.2) with ESMTP id MAILINIA21-e20f458c24fc233; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 13:33:32 -0500 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 13:33:30 -0500 In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AIM WebMail 22250 Received: from 71.113.138.35 by FWM-R19.sysops.aol.com (152.163.211.147) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 22 Dec 2006 13:33:30 -0500 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-AOL-IP: 152.163.211.147 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp1 Subject: Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics) X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 18:36:54 - The V12 that I am refering too is in the 2006 S600 and its a 5.5 litre (336 cid) makes 510 HP and 610 ft lbs of torque. Now here's the interesting stuff. It accelerates 0-60 in 4.2 sec's and runs the quarter in 12.6 at 115 mph. At 2.5 tons its quicker than a Porsche 911 Carrera S, Chevy Corvette Convertible and a Ferrari 612. Harry 69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles 72 350SL 118,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics) Depends on the size of the V12. If you're merely talking cylinders then I know there's a V-16. I kinda think there's a V-18 or maybe a W-18 out there as well. And then if you're not limited to cars there's more yet! (: Levi On 12/22/06, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anything bigger than a V12? On 12/21/06, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually the new S600 weighs in at over 5,000 pounds and thats with a V12 Wasn't the original S600 (W140) more like 6,000#? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:
Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics)
The S600 before this weighed in at a portly 6200 pounds, but it too had a V12 with about 100 less hp Harry 69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles 72 350SL 118,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually the new S600 weighs in at over 5,000 pounds and thats with a V12 Wasn't the original S600 (W140) more like 6,000#? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection.
Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics)
Lincoln made a V16 in 1931 or 1933 I believe and Caddy made one too Harry 69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles 72 350SL 118,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics) I forgot about the older stuff. I was thinking of the Cizetta in particular: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2887200950074456788cssOBd It was interesting. Looked a lot like a Lambo, but had like 12 headlights or some such odd thing. Like 6 of them were pop-up units. Levi On 12/22/06, Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lincoln made a v-16, late 30's I think. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Bissell Cove Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Levi Smith Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:29 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics) Depends on the size of the V12. If you're merely talking cylinders then I know there's a V-16. I kinda think there's a V-18 or maybe a W-18 out there as well. And then if you're not limited to cars there's more yet! (: Levi On 12/22/06, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anything bigger than a V12? On 12/21/06, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually the new S600 weighs in at over 5,000 pounds and thats with a V12 Wasn't the original S600 (W140) more like 6,000#? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection.
Re: [MBZ] Which Coolant Is MB-like? Rad Incoming Hursty
MB antifreeze from Rusty was $9.00 last I checked (1999). On 12/22/06, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ahh...10-4 - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Which Coolant Is MB-like? Rad Incoming Hursty It shipped separately. - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 11:28 AM Subject: [MBZ] Which Coolant Is MB-like? Rad Incoming Hursty So now that I've installed the new, new radiator (one that does not leak, thank you Gary/Rusty), I need to top it off with coolant and I'm out of MB collant. Which one do I buy at the McParts which goes with MB coolant? Garyradiator incoming. Rusty...didn't get top radiator hose with new radiator. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 164K '87 Acura Legend 180K Litchfield Park, AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 16 cylinders?
But is there any engineering limit on the no. of cylinders? On 12/22/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: VW also built the W12 for the Phaeton Harry 69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles 72 350SL 118,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 9:43 AM Subject: [MBZ] 16 cylinders? So did GM(Cadillac), as recently as a one-off a couple years back at the Detroit auto show. The Volkswagen W-16, Bugatti And then there was Packard, etc.. Werner - Original Message - From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics) Lincoln made a v-16, late 30's I think. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Bissell Cove Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Levi Smith Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:29 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics) Depends on the size of the V12. If you're merely talking cylinders then I know there's a V-16. I kinda think there's a V-18 or maybe a W-18 out there as well. And then if you're not limited to cars there's more yet! (: Levi On 12/22/06, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anything bigger than a V12? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D pics
Speaking of spines, has anyone had a microlumbar discectomy? It involves removing a crescent-shaped piece of vertebra to get at and remove whatever (usually a piece of disc) is impinging on a spinal column nerve. Supposedly you're in and out in a matter of hours. I may be a candidate for this delightful sounding procedure to alleviate pain in my leg from just such an impingement... On 12/22/06, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another thing for me to be thankful of, I am decidedly not a hurler... I'd swallowed a bunch of blood at some point in having my wisdom teeth out. My stomach objected. Other than that I rarely yawn in technicolor. -Curt Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 09:36:44 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D pics To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original I'm a hurler as the recovery nurse called me as I was coming to after having my shoulder repaired. I was yacking every where. Stopped several times on the way home to blow. When I had a hernia repaired, Dr. put some wicked dramimine type patch on me before they knocked me out and I yacked not upon coming to. I had to wear the patch for four days. Hopefully they can patch me when they hack out my choppers... Bob R __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 16 cylinders?
I'm sure there is a limit, you have to keep in mind the more cylinders there are the more complex the engine becomes. For all practical purposes I would say a V8 or even a V10 is more than enough to get the job done Harry 69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles 72 350SL 118,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 16 cylinders? But is there any engineering limit on the no. of cylinders? On 12/22/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: VW also built the W12 for the Phaeton Harry 69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles 72 350SL 118,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 9:43 AM Subject: [MBZ] 16 cylinders? So did GM(Cadillac), as recently as a one-off a couple years back at the Detroit auto show. The Volkswagen W-16, Bugatti And then there was Packard, etc.. Werner - Original Message - From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics) Lincoln made a v-16, late 30's I think. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Bissell Cove Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Levi Smith Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:29 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics) Depends on the size of the V12. If you're merely talking cylinders then I know there's a V-16. I kinda think there's a V-18 or maybe a W-18 out there as well. And then if you're not limited to cars there's more yet! (: Levi On 12/22/06, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anything bigger than a V12? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection.
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics)
Not according to Wikipedia-see my earlier post Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Bissell Cove Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 1:49 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics) Lincoln made a V16 in 1931 or 1933 I believe and Caddy made one too Harry 69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles 72 350SL 118,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics) I forgot about the older stuff. I was thinking of the Cizetta in particular: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2887200950074456788cssOBd It was interesting. Looked a lot like a Lambo, but had like 12 headlights or some such odd thing. Like 6 of them were pop-up units. Levi On 12/22/06, Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lincoln made a v-16, late 30's I think. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Bissell Cove Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Levi Smith Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:29 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics) Depends on the size of the V12. If you're merely talking cylinders then I know there's a V-16. I kinda think there's a V-18 or maybe a W-18 out there as well. And then if you're not limited to cars there's more yet! (: Levi On 12/22/06, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anything bigger than a V12? On 12/21/06, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually the new S600 weighs in at over 5,000 pounds and thats with a V12 Wasn't the original S600 (W140) more like 6,000#? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D pics
A wisdom tooth without an opposing tooth WILL become erupted. Just had upper roots and lower wisdom CUT out. Upper broke, lower would not stop growing. I turn 38 in January. NEVER had a problem until recently. Waylon Black Little Elm, Texas From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D pics To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Bob, hope your procedures go well. The topic of wisdom teeth is of high interest to me, as I still have my two lower ones at age 36. I had the top two pulled because they each had a cavity. Am weighing the risks against the benefits of having the lower ones pulled (you probably know that the lower ones are more risky). I ask my dentist and oral surgeon if these two lower wisdom teeth will give me trouble of any sort between now and my funeral. It's quite hard to get any concrete answer (I'm just looking for their opinion, but I've run into a lot of hesitancy to give opinions on the part of healthcare professionals). Brian Bob wrote: let's see...I need three wisdom teeth cut out (snip)
Re: [MBZ] 16 cylinders?
There are practical limits -- epitomized by the 32 cylinder 4-row radial PW 4360, the Wright 18 cylinder with three shaft coupled turbine Turbocompound on the Super Connie, and the Napier Nomad tubo-compounded diesel -- 12 cylinder horizontally opposed diesel with 8 atmospheres (110 psi) boost from a coupled axial turbocharger. Turboprop engines and jets replaced these monsters pretty fast in the 50s -- way too hard to maintain and too expensive to operate (Pan Am never did find props that held up to the 4360, crashed at least two Boeing 377s due to prop failures, for instance). Rolls Royce bought Napier, and turned the turbocharger off the Nomad into the Rolls Avon/Conway jet engine, discarding the diesel (which should give you a hint of what the Nomad looked like!) There isn't any real reason except perhaps marketing to make anything with more than 8 cylinders. V8's are easy to machine, quite reliable, reasonably smooth (12s are much better in the smoothness department, but see following), and easy to cool and fit into an engine compartment. I cannot imagine what anyone would do with more than 250 hp anyway -- none of the driving I do would make it worth the excess fuel consumption for better acceleration! V12 and V16 engine usually have small cylinders (otherwise the engine become enormous) and the close spacing, lack of space in the engine compartment, and some notable failures to appreciate the cooling requirements have produced several recent V12 engines that produce LESS hp that the equivalent displacement V8 or L6 by the same manufacturer (Benz and Jaguar, specifically). The extra hp from the 12 is so small compared to the weight that there is little improvement in performance, and they are both front heavy. The Jag in particular has a nasty habit of running so hot that the fuel system develops leaks, causing a total loss fire more often than not. A late 80's 560 SEC will spank a late 80's Jag V12 with no trouble at all. The cigarette lighter doesn't shoot into the rear seat and burn holes in the upholstery, either. Peter
Re: [MBZ] 16 cylinders?
Not sure about a limit - but BRM (British Racing Motors) built a H16 in the 60s. The sound was awesome but it was too heavy making the F1 car it was installed in too slow to compete - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 16 cylinders? But is there any engineering limit on the no. of cylinders? On 12/22/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: VW also built the W12 for the Phaeton Harry 69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles 72 350SL 118,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 9:43 AM Subject: [MBZ] 16 cylinders? So did GM(Cadillac), as recently as a one-off a couple years back at the Detroit auto show. The Volkswagen W-16, Bugatti And then there was Packard, etc.. Werner - Original Message - From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics) Lincoln made a v-16, late 30's I think. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Bissell Cove Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Levi Smith Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:29 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics) Depends on the size of the V12. If you're merely talking cylinders then I know there's a V-16. I kinda think there's a V-18 or maybe a W-18 out there as well. And then if you're not limited to cars there's more yet! (: Levi On 12/22/06, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anything bigger than a V12? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.26/597 - Release Date: 12/21/2006
Re: [MBZ] Automotive Calculations
try convert.exe available on the net for free and does about all of it. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:28 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: 911/993/996 digest; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Automotive Calculations Werner pointed out that a converter was missing from my list - haven't tried to search all the links to confirm his comment but he's probably right - so here's a link that does convert torque (Newton Meters to lb ft); http://www.onlineconversion.com/ is also a very comprehensive list of conversion for all kinds of stuff - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Automotive Calculations Larry - quite a list of conversions, but I didn't see Newton-meters to lb-ft (torque)! Werner - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com; 911/993/996 digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: The FerrariList [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 8:27 AM Subject: [MBZ] Automotive Calculations I found this webpage which provides all kinds of automotive related conversion factors - mpg's, screw sizes, velocity, TSD etc. http://www.csgnetwork.com/automotiveconverters.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.26/597 - Release Date: 12/21/2006 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 16 cylinders?
Andrew asked: is there any engineering limit on the no. of cylinders I'm just guessing here -- based on things I've read - but I think the limit may have to do with the crankshaft flexing - the flat 12 Porsche used in the 917s of the early 70s had a seperate shaft that transmitted power from the center of the crank - so the power was coming from the center and not the end of the crank so the crank did not distort. I need to read about the design of the 917 engine some more but that's what I recall -- I don't recall any engines with more than 16 cylinders - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - [SNIP]
Re: [MBZ] 16 cylinders?
peter wrote:The cigarette lighter doesn't shoot into the rear seat and burn holes in the upholstery That must take a ot of the fun out of using the cig lighter! ALso, Peter wrote:V12 and V16 engine usually have small cylinders This always amazed me - picture a V12 of 2 liters - very small, with pistons verging on thimbles - not really but you get the picture. As an extension to that thought - the 2L turbo charged engines of the 80s (?) made almost 1200hp (for a little while) with a displacement the size of a 2L Coke Bottle! Anyway, I found i interesting - Take care -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 16 cylinders? There are practical limits -- epitomized by the 32 cylinder 4-row radial PW 4360, the Wright 18 cylinder with three shaft coupled turbine Turbocompound on the Super Connie, and the Napier Nomad tubo-compounded diesel -- 12 cylinder horizontally opposed diesel with 8 atmospheres (110 psi) boost from a coupled axial turbocharger. Turboprop engines and jets replaced these monsters pretty fast in the 50s -- way too hard to maintain and too expensive to operate (Pan Am never did find props that held up to the 4360, crashed at least two Boeing 377s due to prop failures, for instance). Rolls Royce bought Napier, and turned the turbocharger off the Nomad into the Rolls Avon/Conway jet engine, discarding the diesel (which should give you a hint of what the Nomad looked like!) There isn't any real reason except perhaps marketing to make anything with more than 8 cylinders. V8's are easy to machine, quite reliable, reasonably smooth (12s are much better in the smoothness department, but see following), and easy to cool and fit into an engine compartment. I cannot imagine what anyone would do with more than 250 hp anyway -- none of the driving I do would make it worth the excess fuel consumption for better acceleration! V12 and V16 engine usually have small cylinders (otherwise the engine become enormous) and the close spacing, lack of space in the engine compartment, and some notable failures to appreciate the cooling requirements have produced several recent V12 engines that produce LESS hp that the equivalent displacement V8 or L6 by the same manufacturer (Benz and Jaguar, specifically). The extra hp from the 12 is so small compared to the weight that there is little improvement in performance, and they are both front heavy. The Jag in particular has a nasty habit of running so hot that the fuel system develops leaks, causing a total loss fire more often than not. A late 80's 560 SEC will spank a late 80's Jag V12 with no trouble at all. The cigarette lighter doesn't shoot into the rear seat and burn holes in the upholstery, either. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.26/597 - Release Date: 12/21/2006
Re: [MBZ] Which Coolant Is MB-like? Rad Incoming Hursty
Autozone had it here...$10.99 a gallon. Bob R. - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Which Coolant Is MB-like? Rad Incoming Hursty zerex G-05 - available at NAPA (but not Autozone or Advance) On 12/22/06, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So now that I've installed the new, new radiator (one that does not leak, thank you Gary/Rusty), I need to top it off with coolant and I'm out of MB collant. Which one do I buy at the McParts which goes with MB coolant? Garyradiator incoming. Rusty...didn't get top radiator hose with new radiator. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 164K '87 Acura Legend 180K Litchfield Park, AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D pics
It's odd...I used to be able to do all the stuff...all the crazy rides at Six flags for example, reading or playing cribbage in the back of the van on the way to work. Then all of a sudden, I can't ride rides, I can't read in a moving car, I have to sit in the front seat...and all this happend almost overnight about 5 or six years ago. Wicked motion sickness baby puss. Bob R - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D pics Another thing for me to be thankful of, I am decidedly not a hurler... I'd swallowed a bunch of blood at some point in having my wisdom teeth out. My stomach objected. Other than that I rarely yawn in technicolor. -Curt Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 09:36:44 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D pics To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original I'm a hurler as the recovery nurse called me as I was coming to after having my shoulder repaired. I was yacking every where. Stopped several times on the way home to blow. When I had a hernia repaired, Dr. put some wicked dramimine type patch on me before they knocked me out and I yacked not upon coming to. I had to wear the patch for four days. Hopefully they can patch me when they hack out my choppers... Bob R __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Which Coolant Is MB-like? Rad Incoming Hursty
It's gone up a tad... Bob R - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Which Coolant Is MB-like? Rad Incoming Hursty MB antifreeze from Rusty was $9.00 last I checked (1999). On 12/22/06, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ahh...10-4 - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Which Coolant Is MB-like? Rad Incoming Hursty It shipped separately. - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 11:28 AM Subject: [MBZ] Which Coolant Is MB-like? Rad Incoming Hursty So now that I've installed the new, new radiator (one that does not leak, thank you Gary/Rusty), I need to top it off with coolant and I'm out of MB collant. Which one do I buy at the McParts which goes with MB coolant? Garyradiator incoming. Rusty...didn't get top radiator hose with new radiator. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 164K '87 Acura Legend 180K Litchfield Park, AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Sigh....
After having to drive the Acura ('87 Legend, 180K miles) for a week,
I am again amazed how much mo-better the ten year older MB
feels/drives/rides/sounds/etc.
Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 164K
'87 Acura Legend 180K
Litchfield Park, AZ
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The last door to be closed on a w210 must be shut firmly or it won't
latch fully. I attribute this to the quality of sealing around the doors.
Just like a '50s VW beetle.
RLE
Re: [MBZ] 190D pics
I lost the ability to do carnival rides at the age of 17 or 18 -- nothing like lying on the ground for an hour trying not to heave to ruin the evening for everyone! I think it's an inner ear thing. Peter
Re: [MBZ] 16 cylinders?
Leave it to the Brits to engineer a luxury car with an engine full of thimble-sized cylinders capable of setting fire to itself via a fuel leak OR inside the cabin via an airborne cigarette lighter! On 12/22/06, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: peter wrote:The cigarette lighter doesn't shoot into the rear seat and burn holes in the upholstery That must take a ot of the fun out of using the cig lighter! ALso, Peter wrote:V12 and V16 engine usually have small cylinders This always amazed me - picture a V12 of 2 liters - very small, with pistons verging on thimbles - not really but you get the picture. As an extension to that thought - the 2L turbo charged engines of the 80s (?) made almost 1200hp (for a little while) with a displacement the size of a 2L Coke Bottle! Anyway, I found i interesting - Take care -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 16 cylinders? There are practical limits -- epitomized by the 32 cylinder 4-row radial PW 4360, the Wright 18 cylinder with three shaft coupled turbine Turbocompound on the Super Connie, and the Napier Nomad tubo-compounded diesel -- 12 cylinder horizontally opposed diesel with 8 atmospheres (110 psi) boost from a coupled axial turbocharger. Turboprop engines and jets replaced these monsters pretty fast in the 50s -- way too hard to maintain and too expensive to operate (Pan Am never did find props that held up to the 4360, crashed at least two Boeing 377s due to prop failures, for instance). Rolls Royce bought Napier, and turned the turbocharger off the Nomad into the Rolls Avon/Conway jet engine, discarding the diesel (which should give you a hint of what the Nomad looked like!) There isn't any real reason except perhaps marketing to make anything with more than 8 cylinders. V8's are easy to machine, quite reliable, reasonably smooth (12s are much better in the smoothness department, but see following), and easy to cool and fit into an engine compartment. I cannot imagine what anyone would do with more than 250 hp anyway -- none of the driving I do would make it worth the excess fuel consumption for better acceleration! V12 and V16 engine usually have small cylinders (otherwise the engine become enormous) and the close spacing, lack of space in the engine compartment, and some notable failures to appreciate the cooling requirements have produced several recent V12 engines that produce LESS hp that the equivalent displacement V8 or L6 by the same manufacturer (Benz and Jaguar, specifically). The extra hp from the 12 is so small compared to the weight that there is little improvement in performance, and they are both front heavy. The Jag in particular has a nasty habit of running so hot that the fuel system develops leaks, causing a total loss fire more often than not. A late 80's 560 SEC will spank a late 80's Jag V12 with no trouble at all. The cigarette lighter doesn't shoot into the rear seat and burn holes in the upholstery, either. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.26/597 - Release Date: 12/21/2006 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Which Coolant Is MB-like? Rad Incoming Hursty
By tad do you mean 50 percent? On 12/22/06, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's gone up a tad... Bob R - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Which Coolant Is MB-like? Rad Incoming Hursty MB antifreeze from Rusty was $9.00 last I checked (1999). On 12/22/06, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ahh...10-4 - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Which Coolant Is MB-like? Rad Incoming Hursty It shipped separately. - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 11:28 AM Subject: [MBZ] Which Coolant Is MB-like? Rad Incoming Hursty So now that I've installed the new, new radiator (one that does not leak, thank you Gary/Rusty), I need to top it off with coolant and I'm out of MB collant. Which one do I buy at the McParts which goes with MB coolant? Garyradiator incoming. Rusty...didn't get top radiator hose with new radiator. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 164K '87 Acura Legend 180K Litchfield Park, AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Sun visor clip?
I need to buy a couple of sunvisor clips for my 87 300D. Does anyone know where I can get them for a resonable price? -- OK Richard 1987 300D 178k with miles and miles to go!!! Midwest City, Oklahoma
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics)
I beg to differ on that one, in 1930 Caddilac had a V16 called the Dual Windshield Sport Phaeton. It had a 452 cid engine that made 165 hp with a 3 speed tranny. It was made built from 1930 to 1931 and cost $5,500 to $10,000. Lincoln had a V12 before the V16 and it was built in 1932 as Lincolns answer to the V16 Caddy. That one was called the Lincoln KB that had a 7.34 liter V12 that made 150 hp with a 3 speed. Harry 69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles 72 350SL 118,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics) Not according to Wikipedia-see my earlier post Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Bissell Cove Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 1:49 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics) Lincoln made a V16 in 1931 or 1933 I believe and Caddy made one too Harry 69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles 72 350SL 118,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics) I forgot about the older stuff. I was thinking of the Cizetta in particular: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2887200950074456788cssOBd It was interesting. Looked a lot like a Lambo, but had like 12 headlights or some such odd thing. Like 6 of them were pop-up units. Levi On 12/22/06, Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lincoln made a v-16, late 30's I think. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Bissell Cove Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Levi Smith Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:29 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics) Depends on the size of the V12. If you're merely talking cylinders then I know there's a V-16. I kinda think there's a V-18 or maybe a W-18 out there as well. And then if you're not limited to cars there's more yet! (: Levi On 12/22/06, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anything bigger than a V12? On 12/21/06, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually the new S600 weighs in at over 5,000 pounds and thats with a V12 Wasn't the original S600 (W140) more like 6,000#? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection.
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics)
Harry, Sorry-I didn't make my point clear-according to Wikipedia, Cadillac did make the V-16 but Lincoln did not as I earlier stated incorrectly.I recall seeing Cadillac v-16's but not Lincolns. Here is the link again: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_V16_engine Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Bissell Cove Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 5:00 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics) I beg to differ on that one, in 1930 Caddilac had a V16 called the Dual Windshield Sport Phaeton. It had a 452 cid engine that made 165 hp with a 3 speed tranny. It was made built from 1930 to 1931 and cost $5,500 to $10,000. Lincoln had a V12 before the V16 and it was built in 1932 as Lincolns answer to the V16 Caddy. That one was called the Lincoln KB that had a 7.34 liter V12 that made 150 hp with a 3 speed. Harry 69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles 72 350SL 118,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics) Not according to Wikipedia-see my earlier post Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Bissell Cove Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 1:49 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics) Lincoln made a V16 in 1931 or 1933 I believe and Caddy made one too Harry 69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles 72 350SL 118,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics) I forgot about the older stuff. I was thinking of the Cizetta in particular: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2887200950074456788cssOBd It was interesting. Looked a lot like a Lambo, but had like 12 headlights or some such odd thing. Like 6 of them were pop-up units. Levi On 12/22/06, Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lincoln made a v-16, late 30's I think. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Bissell Cove Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Levi Smith Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:29 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] mercedes vs Toyota (crash pics) Depends on the size of the V12. If you're merely talking cylinders then I know there's a V-16. I kinda think there's a V-18 or maybe a W-18 out there as well. And then if you're not limited to cars there's more yet! (: Levi On 12/22/06, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anything bigger than a V12? On 12/21/06, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually the new S600 weighs in at over 5,000 pounds and thats with a V12 Wasn't the original S600 (W140) more like 6,000#? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery
[MBZ] Diesel Convertible
A Moose Day link- A few years ago I recall a thread on creating an MB diesel convertible-well's an opportunity to own a rare one- http://www.barrett-jackson.com/carlist/cardetails.asp?In_AuctionID=49 http://www.barrett-jackson.com/carlist/cardetails.asp?In_AuctionID=49In_Lo tNumber=71 In_LotNumber=71 Note who also owns one. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Bissell Cove Wickford RI 02852 1979 240D 1990 300D 2.5t
Re: [MBZ] 16 cylinders?
Larry et al: You have to keep the question to cars, and AFAIK, 16 cylinders has been the practical limit. Besides complexity and weight, there are too many parts to break, too many pieces to keep together with the correct clearances, and too much windige or frictional losses. A big factor in the increased weight comes from making the thing stiff enough not to self-destruct. You are correct - a V8 is about the best compromise for parts/power/smoothness. A V6 comes close, but needs a balance shaft to be as smooth. Now an in-line 6 is very smooth, but that comes at the cost of longer and heavier. For simplicity and reliability, its hard to beat a 4-banger, but then smoothness goes out the window. But when you go beyond automobiles, then all bets are off - ALCO (American Locomotive) makes a dandy V18 that is used on a lot of RR engines, and the Coast Guard put 2 of them in their Famous Class WMEC270 Cutters. Seemed to be reliable and smooth. About 1500 HP each Werner - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 16 cylinders? Andrew asked: is there any engineering limit on the no. of cylinders I'm just guessing here -- based on things I've read - but I think the limit may have to do with the crankshaft flexing - the flat 12 Porsche used in the 917s of the early 70s had a seperate shaft that transmitted power from the center of the crank - so the power was coming from the center and not the end of the crank so the crank did not distort. I need to read about the design of the 917 engine some more but that's what I recall -- I don't recall any engines with more than 16 cylinders - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
Re: [MBZ] Sigh....
Bob I miss my 77 300D. What started it all for me. Was 42 years old when I
bought it back late in 2002. I had up until that time never drove any MB
gasser or diesel in my life.
Funny you drive other cars and step back in the feeling you get.
Regards Tom Scordato 1979 240D, 107K
Maybe 1972 220D, 190K miles
Bellefonte PA
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To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Subject: [MBZ] Sigh
After having to drive the Acura ('87 Legend, 180K miles) for a week,
I am again amazed how much mo-better the ten year older MB
feels/drives/rides/sounds/etc.
Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 164K
'87 Acura Legend 180K
Litchfield Park, AZ
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Re: [MBZ] Which Coolant Is MB-like? Rad Incoming Hursty
Gary Zerox G-05 is a light yellow almost clearish color I guess. Around $11.00 a gallon at Pep boys or the MB blue which is about twice as much. You will need almost two gallons for a 50/50 mix with the 77 300D. +/- GET THE AIR OUT!!! Regards Tom Scordato 1989 240D 107K miles - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 11:28 AM Subject: [MBZ] Which Coolant Is MB-like? Rad Incoming Hursty So now that I've installed the new, new radiator (one that does not leak, thank you Gary/Rusty), I need to top it off with coolant and I'm out of MB collant. Which one do I buy at the McParts which goes with MB coolant? Garyradiator incoming. Rusty...didn't get top radiator hose with new radiator. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 164K '87 Acura Legend 180K Litchfield Park, AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel Convertible
http://tinyurl.com/y6ego7 Wow, a 200hp, zero cylinder 300CD. Barrett's must not be experts on 617 engines. I wonder if the part about only two made, Babbsie has the other one is true.
Re: [MBZ] Wive's Preferences
My secret is the lesser of evils-36 years when first married I told my wife that some men chase home young women-others bring old cars home. Consider herself lucky. Worked. Dwight that is good old Yankee reasoning if I ever heard it/Tom - Original Message - From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 7:47 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wive's Preferences My secret is the lesser of evils-36 years when first married I told my wife that some men chase home young women-others bring old cars home. Consider herself lucky. Worked. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Bissell Cove Wickford RI 02852 1979 240D 1990 300D 2.5t -Original Message- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel Convertible
I'd rather fit a OM603 into an SL chassis. I love the coupe and all, but a diesel SL would be light years more fun:D On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 16:46:09 -0600, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://tinyurl.com/y6ego7 Wow, a 200hp, zero cylinder 300CD. Barrett's must not be experts on 617 engines. I wonder if the part about only two made, Babbsie has the other one is true. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (270,491 mi) head case? '83 300SD (241 kmi) '82 300CD (162 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR engine work '85 300D (280,176) parts car
