Re: [MBZ] burning used oil
Cummins introduced a program about 2-3 years ago for big rig diesels that introduces a certain ammount of crankcase oil into the fuel system. The claim to fame is that oil change intervals are quadrupled, filterchanges stay the same ant topping off oil goes along with fuel-ups. Luther will should know the jazz on this. On 1/3/07, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody remember SC-based Green Oasis Environmental? They had a contraption that purportedly turned crankcase oil into diesel fuel. On 1/3/07, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Long ago there was a discussion on how much drained engine oil (Mobil 1) is OK to put in the fueltank. I am finding it more and more difficult to drop off used oil at mac parts places. They act annoyed and let you wait. At $ 2.50+ a gallon diesel it would also cut down the initial cost of the oil. -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] OT - lost baggage fiasco
Was this part of the 200 or so bags stolen recently and dumped in dumpsters, perhaps? I only got part of the news report, but seems that there was a theivery ring involving airline contract employees riffling bags for valuables then dumping them in the last couple days. I've never heard of a courier just dumping the bags and leaving before. Peter
Re: [MBZ] burning used oil
Rich, where on Westpark is that recycle place? O'Reiley's on Hwy 6 is closest to me and they are the ones who try to make me feel bad bothering them. SOB's told me not to set the jugs on the floor and than made me wait forever. I know, and they know what the law is. Does not mean they have to be friendly about it. Jiffy Lube must be outside the law. They flat tell me we don't take used oil. Hans On 1/3/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hans -- here in TX I believe it is a law that if they sell oil they gotta take oil. I go to the O'Reilly's and just go in back and pour mine in a tank they have (they take filters too), or to the recycle facility on Westpark. The recycle facility is sort of a fun experience, in a weird way, the people they have working there seem to get really excited about bringing 3 or 4 gal of oil, for reasons about which I can only speculate. they seem to have some limit but I usually yowyow with the attendant and it works out. --R
Re: [MBZ] Washington State (was: rear exhaust hanger question)
Puget Sound passive aggressive. We are very nice to your face, but plot your downfall during free moments. East of the mountains is small town suspicious of the weirdos who flock there for the sun. On Jan 3, 2007, at 10:36 AM, Zoltan Finks wrote: Man, the general concensus seems to be that the Pac. NW consists of a majority of wierdos. Growing up in AZ, there was a joke that California was the land of the fruits and nuts. Maybe all the Californians moved north and all the Mexicans have moved to their north as well. And this notion of organized resistance and protests, etc. to people moving in and californicating Washinton - wow. I bet the majority of these protesters would consider the same type of protesting against foreign immigration to be one of the cardinal sins. Whatever, it won't be the first time I've felt the you ain't from around here syndrome (having moved from Tucson to a relatively small town in Minnesota - with a bald head at the time). Actually, when we were checking out our probable new town Bainbridge Island, we were very surprised that we didn't run into any of the sort of resistance I'm hearing of. People seemed pretty genuine and welcoming even when they heard we're moving there. Maybe they've got their own version of Minnesota Nice (which, we've found, is skin-deep - be nice face to face, and thus gather a bunch of information to be used in gossip sessons later). Brian Alex wrote: And if Washington isn't weird enough for you, come on down to Oregon. We have a much worse economy, but we make up for it: marijuana and machine guns are both legal here. ;) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '92 Isuzu Trooper ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Washington State (was: rear exhaust hanger question)
No overt attacks on your person. More insidious jedi mind tricks to undermine your values and convert you to the pink side. Soon you will be marching to provide support for the child with two mommies and finding work for chicanos and their extended families. On Jan 3, 2007, at 11:30 AM, Zoltan Finks wrote: That's what people do in Yuma: gas up and pass through. And, again with the threats against my person. I suppose this nebuous we plans to attack my wife and family too. We'll have to steer clear of any restaurants with an older, bumper sticker-bearing Mercedes parked around back. Brian On 1/3/07, Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a friendly gent down in Yuma AZ gently suggest that my friend and I keep on-a-movin, when we were passing through town. Apparently a couple of WA longhairs in a VW bus ain't too welcome down in those parts. Trust me, until you learn the secret handshake, we'll find uniquely devious and covert ways in which to undermine your health and well-being. Remember to slap the I 3 Bill bumper sticker on, just for Clay. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Washington State (was: rear exhaust hanger question)
Now take a fellow with that New England family history and move him to the PNW. Unless you can trace your family to a First Nations clan, you are a newbie. Unless you were Hudson's Bay or on Capt. Vancouver's ship in the old Pacific Northwet. On Jan 3, 2007, at 11:37 AM, Werner Fehlauer wrote: The folks in the Pacific Northwest are like any others - treat them like you want to be treated, and you'll get along just fine. Living in NE Tacoma for 3 years, we found the locals all to be as nice or better than we've seen anywhere in the USA - and we all laughed at the tongue-in-cheek comments about immigrants from other states. There was always the unwritten law though that insisted that it rains all the time in Seattle, to discourage too much of an inclination to attract newcomers. In actuality, New York City gets more rainfall every year, although over less days (average). What people don't realize is that Washington has not only high desert that requires irrigation to produce crops, but also has desert and rain forest conditions on the Olympic peninsula. The neat part is that most years, there are flowers and green grass, and little snow to bother with for any long periods. Now if you want a bit of snobbery (flame suit on), take a good look at the old New England states, where if you didn't get your feet wet while climbing off the Mayflower, you are just a newbie. Werner - Original Message - From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Washington State (was: rear exhaust hanger question) Man, the general concensus seems to be that the Pac. NW consists of a majority of wierdos. Growing up in AZ, there was a joke that California was the land of the fruits and nuts. Maybe all the Californians moved north and all the Mexicans have moved to their north as well. And this notion of organized resistance and protests, etc. to people moving in and californicating Washinton - wow. I bet the majority of these protesters would consider the same type of protesting against foreign immigration to be one of the cardinal sins. Whatever, it won't be the first time I've felt the you ain't from around here syndrome (having moved from Tucson to a relatively small town in Minnesota - with a bald head at the time). Actually, when we were checking out our probable new town Bainbridge Island, we were very surprised that we didn't run into any of the sort of resistance I'm hearing of. People seemed pretty genuine and welcoming even when they heard we're moving there. Maybe they've got their own version of Minnesota Nice (which, we've found, is skin-deep - be nice face to face, and thus gather a bunch of information to be used in gossip sessons later). Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] burning used oil
Filter it really well and pass it through one of those magentized pipes to pick up any stray metal. I would be fine with a quart at each fill up in Gump. Were I to try that with the E300D, she would kill me. On Jan 3, 2007, at 12:06 PM, Hans Neureiter wrote: Long ago there was a discussion on how much drained engine oil (Mobil 1) is OK to put in the fueltank. I am finding it more and more difficult to drop off used oil at mac parts places. They act annoyed and let you wait. At $ 2.50+ a gallon diesel it would also cut down the initial cost of the oil. -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Dented 300CD
I'll post this once again. It's from 15 years ago, but the principles still apply. They want to offer you a pittance and make you go away quickly. You have ways to combat it. Here's one man's sucess story: http://gerry.vanagon.com/files/auto-insurance-madness.html
Re: [MBZ] Washington State (was: rear exhaust hanger question)
Brian, that was me being covert and devious. Casey is as wholesome as driven snow and welcomes all liberal minded people so that the soviet socialist state of washington can one day rise up to overthrow the chains of the capitalist devils on the Atlantic coast. On Jan 3, 2007, at 1:12 PM, Zoltan Finks wrote: Dude, I'm just not used to people saying things they do not mean. Kindly reserve your name-calling for whatever other lists you belong to. If I'm paranoid, it's not your place to say it. All I did was ask you to explain your bizarre, threatening posts to me, and clearly you take such a request as a challenge to do more of what you do. Can't seem to break character. Brian Zeitgiest, you wrote: we'll find uniquely devious and covert ways in which to undermine your health and well-being On 1/3/07, Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dude, you're paranoid. My job is done. On 1/3/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's what people do in Yuma: gas up and pass through. And, again with the threats against my person. I suppose this nebuous we plans to attack my wife and family too. We'll have to steer clear of any restaurants with an older, bumper sticker-bearing Mercedes parked around back. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] OT - lost baggage fiasco
You live in DC, Andrew. What do you expect? And don't tell me I don't understand: I worked there for a decade. Check the pawn shops on the south side of town. You will find your stuff. D. On 1/3/07, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need some collective wisdom to help us deal with a major loss of checked airline luggage. On our trip back to Washington, D.C. from Canada on New Year's day, three pieces of luggage didn't make it. We agreed to have the airline's courier service leave the bags on the side porch if we weren't home. The airline claims that the bags were dropped off on our side porch between 1 AM and 3 AM the next day (1/2), but they still aren't here! The airline tells us that we agreed to this, and someone must have stolen them between 3 and 7 AM so they are not at fault. Our neighbor was sleeping in her living room and heard nothing - and the local police department says there was no activity that night and they haven't heard of a scam regarding crooks who follow lost baggage couriers. You would think they would have telephoned us, rung the doorbell, or left a sticker to let us know they were here. Has anyone ever experienced this before? I am convinced the courier service is lying or left the luggage at the wrong house because we live on a quiet street with low crime (yes, this is possible in D.C.). The description of the drop off provided by the courier was so general that we cannot be certain they actually came to the correct address, or that if they did, they didn't steal the bags anyway. There are five (5) complaints of non-delivery against this courier for the same day from others who have not received their bags. Any ideas on how I should proceed would be appreciated. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- I'm a man but I can change if I have to ... I guess.
Re: [MBZ] OT - lost baggage fiasco
andrew strasfogel wrote: I need some collective wisdom to help us deal with a major loss of checked airline luggage. My cousin's daughter had the airline truck her luggage from the airport. I was in the garage, saw a truck pull in and pull out. Driver never went to the house. He claims that the bags were in the back of the truck when he left the airport but not when he got to their house. Probably flying down the highway and the wind sucked them out of the pickup. It looks like you have brought our attention a real problem. If you allow them to not place the bags in your hands, then you give them free rein to claim they delivered the bags when the never did. Short of suing them and putting the driver on the witness stand, or putting an ad in the paper asking for other victims to step forward, I don't have any good suggestion. Mitch.
Re: [MBZ] Wash Your cars! was Re: RustyQ 2006 Pictures are up
Rusty Cullens wrote: My cars were both just washed And they didn't just take a 1,000 mile freeway trip. I can't imagine washing a car in a hotel parking lot before going to a cookout. (nor can I imagine taking it to a carwash to have the clearcoat scrubbed off)
Re: [MBZ] CA Trip Questions
On Wed, 3 Jan 2007, Bob Rentfro wrote: Which is more likely to fail or give false readings...temp sensor or temp gauge? remove the connector from the temp sender (driver side of the block or head if I recall). pry open the plastic case on the connector socket. Inspect the wire and solder joint, reflow the joint (or if it is hanging by 2 strands, desolder/cut/strp/resolder)... Worked for my 84 SD. -j.
Re: [MBZ] Spotless?
On Wed, 3 Jan 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Poor cosmetic care and poor maintenance go hand in hand. Bravo Sierra. I keep mine in tip-top shape, but don't have time (9 hr day with a 2 hr commute each way for padding) to hand wax it. It sees a drive-thru about once a month, and I try to get it hand-waxed twice a year, but with a 6 mo old, taking 4 hrs out of one of my weekend days just isnt that do-able (and it drastically interferes with honey-do) I literally chase down and fix EVERY little gremlin ASAP. no fluid leaks. The 1999's (since they take the brunt of the wear) go to the stealership for proper b-services (they go about 16k between services), and I evaluate the recommended items as to what I can do (fuel lines, reseal IP, filters, exhaust pipe, etc) and what I cannot readily do (LCA bushings, LBJ, alignment) and have them do what I cannot, then do the rest myself. Poor maintenance my rump. -j.
Re: [MBZ] Washington State (was: rear exhaust hanger question)
Ya, what Clay said. I'm sending him two loaves of G'mnt cheese, right now. On 1/3/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian, that was me being covert and devious. Casey is as wholesome as driven snow and welcomes all liberal minded people so that the soviet socialist state of washington can one day rise up to overthrow the chains of the capitalist devils on the Atlantic coast. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
Re: [MBZ] Wash Your cars! was Re: RustyQ 2006 Pictures are up
I never saw your engine Chris Kueny wrote: My car was spotless. You should make that comment on the Banned list for my real feelings about your comment. Even Tommy commented on how clean even my ENGINE was. Chris K Cayce, SC - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 11:28 AM Subject: [MBZ] Wash Your cars! was Re: RustyQ 2006 Pictures are up Kaleb wrote: I finally got the RustyQ 2006 pictures up at okiebenz.com that Regina took at the RustyQ. You can access them from the main page by clicking on the rustyQ button, or click here You know what I noticed about the cars? They were all dirty. A bunch of Mercedes people bring their cars to RustyQ to meet each other and show off their cars and they are all dirty. Ok that green 200D looked pretty clean. Have you folks heard of car washes or a bucket and sponge. I know, I am the most anal person around about keeping my car clean, so I should based this on my experience. But, gosh those are some dirty cars. Hursty's car looked pretty clean, I guess. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 133K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Wash Your cars! was Re: RustyQ 2006 Pictures
well my car just drove 800+ miles thru the rain, I was not in the mood to wash it. Donald Snook wrote: Chris K. wrote: My car was spotless. You should make that comment on the Banned list for my real feelings about your comment. Even Tommy commented on how clean even my ENGINE was. Evidently there were some exceptions to my blanket statement. Don't get so fired up that you want to cuss me out on banned. I thought I was being funny - I guess it was not received that way. There were some pretty dirty cars there - apparently your was in tip top condition. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 133K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Wash Your cars! was Re: RustyQ 2006 Pictures are up
Your name isn't Tommy, either. What a coincidence.. Chris K Cayce, SC - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wash Your cars! was Re: RustyQ 2006 Pictures are up I never saw your engine Chris Kueny wrote: My car was spotless. You should make that comment on the Banned list for my real feelings about your comment. Even Tommy commented on how clean even my ENGINE was. Chris K Cayce, SC - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 11:28 AM Subject: [MBZ] Wash Your cars! was Re: RustyQ 2006 Pictures are up Kaleb wrote: I finally got the RustyQ 2006 pictures up at okiebenz.com that Regina took at the RustyQ. You can access them from the main page by clicking on the rustyQ button, or click here You know what I noticed about the cars? They were all dirty. A bunch of Mercedes people bring their cars to RustyQ to meet each other and show off their cars and they are all dirty. Ok that green 200D looked pretty clean. Have you folks heard of car washes or a bucket and sponge. I know, I am the most anal person around about keeping my car clean, so I should based this on my experience. But, gosh those are some dirty cars. Hursty's car looked pretty clean, I guess. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 133K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wash Your cars! was Re: RustyQ 2006 Pictures are up
Or...I would have shown you mine if you showed me yours. Your name isn't Tommy, either. What a coincidence.. Chris K Cayce, SC - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wash Your cars! was Re: RustyQ 2006 Pictures are up I never saw your engine Chris Kueny wrote: My car was spotless. You should make that comment on the Banned list for my real feelings about your comment. Even Tommy commented on how clean even my ENGINE was. Chris K Cayce, SC - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 11:28 AM Subject: [MBZ] Wash Your cars! was Re: RustyQ 2006 Pictures are up Kaleb wrote: I finally got the RustyQ 2006 pictures up at okiebenz.com that Regina took at the RustyQ. You can access them from the main page by clicking on the rustyQ button, or click here You know what I noticed about the cars? They were all dirty. A bunch of Mercedes people bring their cars to RustyQ to meet each other and show off their cars and they are all dirty. Ok that green 200D looked pretty clean. Have you folks heard of car washes or a bucket and sponge. I know, I am the most anal person around about keeping my car clean, so I should based this on my experience. But, gosh those are some dirty cars. Hursty's car looked pretty clean, I guess. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 133K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] how the mighty have fallen
You guys still feeding him $$$ or is this free advertising -- sort of a payback for past sins? On 1/3/07, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that's crystal, dude. pay attention well, i see dickie restored his domain. -- I'm a man but I can change if I have to ... I guess.
Re: [MBZ] Wash Your cars! was Re: RustyQ 2006 Pictures
I've seen your fleet. You wash a car when it rains or when Regina 'asks' you to. The cylinder head on my 240D is cleaner than most of your rides! On 1/3/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well my car just drove 800+ miles thru the rain, I was not in the mood to wash it. -- I'm a man but I can change if I have to ... I guess.
Re: [MBZ] OT - lost baggage fiasco
That was in Houston, but it probably isn't isolated to there. Chris http://www.click2houston.com/news/10651061/detail.html?subid=22100412qs=1;bp=t Was this part of the 200 or so bags stolen recently and dumped in dumpsters, perhaps? I only got part of the news report, but seems that there was a theivery ring involving airline contract employees riffling bags for valuables then dumping them in the last couple days. I've never heard of a courier just dumping the bags and leaving before. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] how the mighty have fallen
I am now -- she's rather fetching. On Jan 3, 2007, at 6:06 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: that's crystal, dude. pay attention snip On 1/3/07, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: who's the blonde?
Re: [MBZ] how the mighty have fallen
Phhett. On 1/3/07, L. Mark Finch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am now -- she's rather fetching. On Jan 3, 2007, at 6:06 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: that's crystal, dude. pay attention snip On 1/3/07, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: who's the blonde? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- I'm a man but I can change if I have to ... I guess.
Re: [MBZ] how the mighty have fallen
paying On 1/3/07, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You guys still feeding him $$$ or is this free advertising -- sort of a payback for past sins? On 1/3/07, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that's crystal, dude. pay attention well, i see dickie restored his domain. -- I'm a man but I can change if I have to ... I guess. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CA Trip Questions
After it should be at NOP/NOT, everything FEELS correctly and equally hot (both hoses, top of rad, t-stat housing). The bottom hose is usually markedly cooler, though not maybe easy to tell by hand. Which is more likely to fail or give false readings...temp sensor or temp gauge? The sensor. Just as likely, however, is connections and wire along the way, especially on the dirty end. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Flashing 124 recirc switch light SOLVED!
impulse counter - and just what is it counting? Would an oscilloscope do as well for manually counting pulses? I tried on a 201 panel. No joy, nor could I use my old HP 1630D logic analyzer to get anything. The bursts are too quick, spaced too far apart. Drastically different time scales, both important to the job. Mega-sampling via something like a PC parallel port with simple signal processing might do the job easily, though. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Spotless?
Life is too short to worry about dirty cars, plus I have the excuse that we are expierencing a major drought and are only allowed to use a bucket to wash cars. Hendrik with ze filthy German automobiles.oh the shame - Original Message - From: John W. Reames III [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Spotless? On Wed, 3 Jan 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Poor cosmetic care and poor maintenance go hand in hand. Bravo Sierra. I keep mine in tip-top shape, but don't have time (9 hr day with a 2 hr commute each way for padding) to hand wax it. It sees a
Re: [MBZ] CA Trip Questions
your gauge (borrow an infrared thermometer and point it at the thermostat housing) as it seems like three thermostats should have done the trick. One possibility is massive corrosion inside the thermostat housing is allowing some coolant to bypass the thermostat control. Or, as implied earlier, a sender/wiring problem. I like the IR temp gauge, it tells whether your system is lying or not, and can help diagnose radiator problems, charge AC systems, etc. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] burning used oil
Negative on that, we do not use the system...therefor I know nothing about it. Luther On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 18:16:15 -0600, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cummins introduced a program about 2-3 years ago for big rig diesels that introduces a certain ammount of crankcase oil into the fuel system. The claim to fame is that oil change intervals are quadrupled, filterchanges stay the same ant topping off oil goes along with fuel-ups. Luther will should know the jazz on this. On 1/3/07, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody remember SC-based Green Oasis Environmental? They had a contraption that purportedly turned crankcase oil into diesel fuel. On 1/3/07, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Long ago there was a discussion on how much drained engine oil (Mobil 1) is OK to put in the fueltank. I am finding it more and more difficult to drop off used oil at mac parts places. They act annoyed and let you wait. At $ 2.50+ a gallon diesel it would also cut down the initial cost of the oil. -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (270,491 mi) head case? '83 300SD (241 kmi) '82 300CD (162 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR engine work '85 300D (280,176) parts car
Re: [MBZ] Wash Your cars! was Re: RustyQ 2006 Pictures are up
At the national MBCA Star Fest event, cars compete in autocross and then get cleaned up for the concours. Typically, this display of he ultimate in auomotive anality is carried out in hotel parking lots under the blazing sun. If memory serves, our very own Chuck L. was a routine double award winner at these festivities. I can clean better than drive so my participation was limited to the concours. On 1/3/07, Chris Kueny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or...I would have shown you mine if you showed me yours. Your name isn't Tommy, either. What a coincidence.. Chris K Cayce, SC - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wash Your cars! was Re: RustyQ 2006 Pictures are up I never saw your engine Chris Kueny wrote: My car was spotless. You should make that comment on the Banned list for my real feelings about your comment. Even Tommy commented on how clean even my ENGINE was. Chris K Cayce, SC - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 11:28 AM Subject: [MBZ] Wash Your cars! was Re: RustyQ 2006 Pictures are up Kaleb wrote: I finally got the RustyQ 2006 pictures up at okiebenz.com that Regina took at the RustyQ. You can access them from the main page by clicking on the rustyQ button, or click here You know what I noticed about the cars? They were all dirty. A bunch of Mercedes people bring their cars to RustyQ to meet each other and show off their cars and they are all dirty. Ok that green 200D looked pretty clean. Have you folks heard of car washes or a bucket and sponge. I know, I am the most anal person around about keeping my car clean, so I should based this on my experience. But, gosh those are some dirty cars. Hursty's car looked pretty clean, I guess. Donald H. Snook 1990 300SEL 133K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] how the mighty have fallen
I guess number 8 for mercedes parts at google is worth something... might want to try giving google money directly and be a sponsored link? Gary Hurst wrote: paying On 1/3/07, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You guys still feeding him $$$ or is this free advertising -- sort of a payback for past sins? On 1/3/07, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that's crystal, dude. pay attention well, i see dickie restored his domain. -- I'm a man but I can change if I have to ... I guess. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wash Your cars! was Re: RustyQ 2006 Pictures
Why is asks in quotation marks, Don? Is there a hidden story dying to get out? On 1/3/07, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've seen your fleet. You wash a car when it rains or when Regina 'asks' you to. The cylinder head on my 240D is cleaner than most of your rides! On 1/3/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well my car just drove 800+ miles thru the rain, I was not in the mood to wash it. -- I'm a man but I can change if I have to ... I guess. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W201 Manuals
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are talking about on line sources, I think that skinnerbox-steaky and braingear have both been shut down. MBCA has been having a sale on the older manuals available on CD for as little as $30. You might check your model's availability and price. Thanks for the update Jim! Will have to look into MBCA's sale... you don't have to be a member do you? John
Re: [MBZ] how the mighty have fallen
There is a sucker born every day. Please tell me you have asked for a hit count. (?) Where is your damn'd business model? (Sorry, my college coming thru here.) For $$$/orders, you might want to give Kleb x10 MBZ $$$. Perhaps you can negotiate a lighter per year vice $$$ w/ R. D. On 1/3/07, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: paying -- I'm a man but I can change if I have to ... I guess.
Re: [MBZ] OT - lost baggage fiasco
Happy ending! The luggage had been dropped off at the wrong address. Curiously, the street NAME was wrong, not the house number. Hats off to my brilliant sig. oth, who dragged me to DCA to do battle with the courier and the airline baggage people. The courier boss finally allowed us to speak directly with the driver. Turns out the faux house had a similar side porch to ours, it was dark and late, etc. Thanks, Rich - your advice and it emboldened me. On 1/3/07, Chris Kueny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was in Houston, but it probably isn't isolated to there. Chris http://www.click2houston.com/news/10651061/detail.html?subid=22100412qs=1;bp=t Was this part of the 200 or so bags stolen recently and dumped in dumpsters, perhaps? I only got part of the news report, but seems that there was a theivery ring involving airline contract employees riffling bags for valuables then dumping them in the last couple days. I've never heard of a courier just dumping the bags and leaving before. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] rear exhaust hanger question
The genuine hangers for my (old) cars from the stealer have never lasted more than two years. Maybe I'm the only one buying them, and they all date from the year the car was made. I'm talking about 115, 123, and 107 cars, with 1981 being the most recent. YMMV. Simply get the correct part for your specific car! The proper hangers should easily last 10+ years unless you do a lot of off-roading. Some (but hardly all) aftermarket rubber hangers are of very poor quality and I've seen some fail within months. That has not happened to ME with genuine Mercedes hangers (that are correct for the application and model car). Marshall -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] OT - lost baggage fiasco
That news story today probably made him a little more willing to prove he wasn't a crook *too*. Yeah. Chris K Cayce, SC - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 11:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - lost baggage fiasco Happy ending! The luggage had been dropped off at the wrong address. Curiously, the street NAME was wrong, not the house number. Hats off to my brilliant sig. oth, who dragged me to DCA to do battle with the courier and the airline baggage people. The courier boss finally allowed us to speak directly with the driver. Turns out the faux house had a similar side porch to ours, it was dark and late, etc. Thanks, Rich - your advice and it emboldened me. On 1/3/07, Chris Kueny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was in Houston, but it probably isn't isolated to there. Chris http://www.click2houston.com/news/10651061/detail.html?subid=22100412qs=1;bp=t Was this part of the 200 or so bags stolen recently and dumped in dumpsters, perhaps? I only got part of the news report, but seems that there was a theivery ring involving airline contract employees riffling bags for valuables then dumping them in the last couple days. I've never heard of a courier just dumping the bags and leaving before. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wash Your cars! was Re: RustyQ 2006 Pictures are up
I will send you my home address off-list. Let me know when I can pick you up at the Des Moines airport. I will have the buckets ready for your use. Might want to wait for spring, though. On 1/3/07, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can clean better than drive so my participation was limited to the concours. -- I'm a man but I can change if I have to ... I guess.
Re: [MBZ] NO GLOW exhaust hangers
Actually, you can argue with the meter in the under 1 ohm range - dirt on the glow plug post could easily account for an extra 0.3 ohms. Unless you have a very high quality meter and probes and very clean connection points, I'd consider the under 1 ohm readings as ball park. As Jim said, you need to measure current to be sure. What to do? I replace all of them at once - and save those that might be good for emergencies, since I don't keep new ones in stock like I do oil and fuel filters. Although the latter was replaced within the last 12 months, I can't argue with the meter! Allan -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
Re: [MBZ] OT - lost baggage fiasco
Moral of the experience: carry less impedimenta on your trips. I have a friend who travels internationally for weeks at a time, she can survive with one carry-on shoulder bag and her briefcase. I have no idea how she does it, but she has been doing it for years, and always looks lovely. I need at least 6 times that amount of stuff for reasons that have never been clear to me. Glad to hear things worked out. --R andrew strasfogel wrote: Happy ending! The luggage had been dropped off at the wrong address. Curiously, the street NAME was wrong, not the house number. Hats off to my brilliant sig. oth, who dragged me to DCA to do battle with the courier and the airline baggage people. The courier boss finally allowed us to speak directly with the driver. Turns out the faux house had a similar side porch to ours, it was dark and late, etc. Thanks, Rich - your advice and it emboldened me.
Re: [MBZ] Dented 300CD
Follow up on the 300CD.would not increase the $2300 offer on the car so instead are going to repair it. The body shop manager/estimator tried to talk some sense into the insurance guy stating that although it has 310K miles on it one look at the vehicle and you tell it's been well looked after. Dennis T -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.3/614 - Release Date: 1/2/2007 2:58 PM
Re: [MBZ] Wash Your cars! was Re: RustyQ 2006 Pictures are up
Andrew - you are partly correct. At the last Starfest, and several Tri-O-Rama events I've been to, the Concours is done first, with the track events on succeeding days. However, cleaning up the car after driving to the event itself is a multi-hour affair, usually with hoses and buckets supplied by the event hotel. At SF06, in some cases the cars were cleaned up after driving the 2 week route 66 trip, rainy days and dry, and then the jaunt up to Las Vegas. Some of us also got to wash and polish the cars in Chicago after driving from North Jersey. The SD garnered a second (1 point off first) at SF. But it got really muddy on the way back East, while driving through snow and rain on dirt roads in Colorado. It was cleaned up properly when we got back to NJ, after almost 7800 miles (out and back)! Werner '83SD 223k - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 11:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wash Your cars! was Re: RustyQ 2006 Pictures are up At the national MBCA Star Fest event, cars compete in autocross and then get cleaned up for the concours. Typically, this display of he ultimate in auomotive anality is carried out in hotel parking lots under the blazing sun. If memory serves, our very own Chuck L. was a routine double award winner at these festivities. I can clean better than drive so my participation was limited to the concours.
Re: [MBZ] Flashing 124 recirc switch light SOLVED!
On 1/3/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: impulse counter - and just what is it counting? Would an oscilloscope do as well for manually counting pulses? I tried on a 201 panel. No joy, nor could I use my old HP 1630D logic analyzer to get anything. The bursts are too quick, spaced too far apart. Drastically different time scales, both important to the job. Mega-sampling via something like a PC parallel port with simple signal processing might do the job easily, though. Would these work? http://www.surplussales.com/Meters/MtrImpulse.html Or this one? I envision it in a nice little project box with leads to plug right into the climate control test connector. http://www.skycraftsurplus.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPRODProdID=1001 Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '92 Isuzu Trooper
Re: [MBZ] Flashing 124 recirc switch light SOLVED!
A few years back I made an impulse counter with directions and part numbers supplied on one of these lists. IIRC, it worked, but I could not find a code sheet for the SDL. I'll look for it and the instructions, maybe someone could get a use from it. Harry On 1/4/07, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/3/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: impulse counter - and just what is it counting? Would an oscilloscope do as well for manually counting pulses? I tried on a 201 panel. No joy, nor could I use my old HP 1630D logic analyzer to get anything. The bursts are too quick, spaced too far apart. Drastically different time scales, both important to the job. Mega-sampling via something like a PC parallel port with simple signal processing might do the job easily, though. Would these work? http://www.surplussales.com/Meters/MtrImpulse.html Or this one? I envision it in a nice little project box with leads to plug right into the climate control test connector. http://www.skycraftsurplus.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPRODProdID=1001 Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '92 Isuzu Trooper ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kludges
OK Don wrote: I did that - until I got home and found the nylon cord. Wire breaks, rattles, has no stretch, and is too Okie. Nylon is much classier! In a pinch I once used a hunk of Category 5 network cable. A friend declared it to have been the geekiest possible way I could have solved that problem.
Re: [MBZ] burning used oil
Oh yeah, left that out. Definitely filter it to about 5 microns. I wouldn't just go dumping it in. (though it seems you'd just have to replace your car's filters sooners if you did). I might also have a different opinion if I had a pristine Benz that was my baby. I view my 83' 300D more of as the old tank. (: Levi On 1/3/07, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hans Neureiter wrote: Long ago there was a discussion on how much drained engine oil (Mobil 1) is OK to put in the fueltank. I am finding it more and more difficult to drop off used oil at mac parts places. They act annoyed and let you wait. At $ 2.50+ a gallon diesel it would also cut down the initial cost of the oil. The idea of pumping used motor oil (that is sufficiently contaminated to be discarded) through the most precise piece of equipment in your car (the injection pump and system) seems insane to me. On top of that, motor oil burns hotter than diesel fuel so outside the range that the engine was optimized for. Conventional motor oil burns a bit more smoothly than Mobil 1! I've been told that the companies that make the furnaces that burn used motor oil have recommended NOT using Mobil 1 or other group IV synthetics, but I am not aware of their reasoning. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] how the mighty have fallen
everyone knows sponsored links are bogus. plus they are very expensive if you want one near the top. On 1/3/07, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess number 8 for mercedes parts at google is worth something... might want to try giving google money directly and be a sponsored link? Gary Hurst wrote: paying On 1/3/07, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You guys still feeding him $$$ or is this free advertising -- sort of a payback for past sins? On 1/3/07, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that's crystal, dude. pay attention well, i see dickie restored his domain. -- I'm a man but I can change if I have to ... I guess. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] rear exhaust hanger question
The fact is that rubber ages the same in use as on the shelve. Shielded from UV helps a little. On 1/3/07, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The genuine hangers for my (old) cars from the stealer have never lasted more than two years. Maybe I'm the only one buying them, and they all date from the year the car was made. I'm talking about 115, 123, and 107 cars, with 1981 being the most recent. YMMV. Simply get the correct part for your specific car! The proper hangers should easily last 10+ years unless you do a lot of off-roading. Some (but hardly all) aftermarket rubber hangers are of very poor quality and I've seen some fail within months. That has not happened to ME with genuine Mercedes hangers (that are correct for the application and model car). Marshall -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
[MBZ] re: OT--Navigator wings and ribbons on the priest
Wilton said... Bob Certain, President Ford's pastor, has been seen during the recent funeral ceremonies wearing navigator wings and military ribbons and occasionally saluting with the military members. He may wear them, and he may salute as he sees fit. I knew him briefly when he was a young B-52 crewmember flying missions from Guam to Vietnam. He is a former B-52 navigator who was aboard the first B-52 shotdown over Hanoi on December 18, 1972, during the Linebacker II campaign that led to a settlement ending US involvement in the war. Three members of his crew were killed. He was captured and held as a POW until released in March, 1973. He then attended devinity school and served for many years as an Air Force chaplain before retiring as a colonel. There is a movement on the internet to encourage vets to salute rather than putting your hand over your heart. Turns out that in Australia it is common practice among Aussie vets...may also be the case in other Commonwealth countries as well. I've started doing it myself and encourage other vets to do so as well. We earned the right to salute... Royce Engler CAPT, USN (RET) '85 300TDt 293K
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, foul language
Don, Sheer volume of posts. It's easier to scan the topics in the digest to see if there's anything I want to read since I can't read them all. This is especially good when I'm behind on my email, like now... Tim 1982 300TD 1991 300TE 4Matic -- Message: 5 Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 20:58:18 -0600 From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, foul language Tim: I still don't understand why you are using digest rather than GMail. No, no, no, ... please, not a new thread, just my comment. D
[MBZ] Gas vs. diesel prices?
Anyone heard or care to make any guesses on the price difference between gas and diesel? Am I ever going to see Diesel cheaper than gas again? Or is diesel simply going to keep it's 30-80 cent increase in price over gas? Is it because of ulsd? Levi
Re: [MBZ] rear exhaust hanger question
The fact is that rubber ages the same in use as on the shelf. Shielded from UV helps a little. As does being in airtight packaging. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Flashing 124 recirc switch light SOLVED!
Would these work? http://www.surplussales.com/Meters/MtrImpulse.html Or this one? I envision it in a nice little project box with leads to plug right into the climate control test connector. http://www.skycraftsurplus.com/ index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPRODProdID=1001 No, those are all simple counters. I think the correct type of counter has one-shots to determine when it should stop counting pulses (during the dead times) to frame off the digits, and the multiple, possibly multi-digit, codes. I still think it's something that a laptop, or a pda, could do easily, if somebody were interested enough to write a little code. -- Jim
[MBZ] stuck piston ring
Okay guys for those of you with 1992-1995 S-Class cars when your car goes into limp mode get it fixed, don't do what the previous owned of this car did and drive it with 6 of 12 cylinders working for any length of time. Tends to create a s***l*** of problems. Because of this inattention to detail I believe I have a stuck oil ring on number 2 piston. Dave Walton was over a few weeks ago and didn't think it was injector nailing and we both agreed that the exhaust needs tightening up. Aside from pulling the motor and repairing it anybody have any suggestions on what chemical works the best for removing the built up carbon/scafootz on the ring(s) from properly working? I thought the GM product TOP engine cleaner would be my best bet but I wanted to check with the list first. For reference: http://www.greenmediaonline.com/uploads/shoptalk/0508_st.asp The procedural steps I would use would be to drain the oil and remove the oil filter, remove spark plugs and fill each cylinder with x amount of cleaner, hand crank it over a little and let it sit overnight. Drain the oil pan then remove the pan to see what is in there ie: particulate matter. Motor uses 1 qt of M1 15w50/100miles. Before I have valve stem seals done I thought I'd try this. This is a V12 gas motor. Runs strong with ALL kinds of power. Just burns/uses oil and has a noise in there. Will also look at replacing both EGR valves and cleaning the EGR tubes. And to make it more interesting my back was operated on to remove the cancer and am relearning how to walk. Sorry Kaleb not for sale. James Zavesky 1991 500SL 49kmi 1992 600SEL 137kmi
Re: [MBZ] OT - lost baggage fiasco
A Veterinarian friend who did international sales for Eli Lilly got so fed up with baggage problems that after a few months he did all his travel with only a briefcase. It ahs been awhile, but IIRC he would go for almost a week that way. Every night he washed out clothes and hung them to dry. Worked for him; I'm just glad they put wheels on suitcases. BillR Jacksonville FL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 11:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - lost baggage fiasco Moral of the experience: carry less impedimenta on your trips. I have a friend who travels internationally for weeks at a time, she can survive with one carry-on shoulder bag and her briefcase. I have no idea how she does it, but she has been doing it for years, and always looks lovely. I need at least 6 times that amount of stuff for reasons that have never been clear to me. Glad to hear things worked out. --R andrew strasfogel wrote: Happy ending! The luggage had been dropped off at the wrong address. Curiously, the street NAME was wrong, not the house number. Hats off to my brilliant sig. oth, who dragged me to DCA to do battle with the courier and the airline baggage people. The courier boss finally allowed us to speak directly with the driver. Turns out the faux house had a similar side porch to ours, it was dark and late, etc. Thanks, Rich - your advice and it emboldened me. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W201 Manuals
In a message dated 1/3/2007 9:23:21 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, jer9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are talking about on line sources, I think that skinnerbox-steaky and braingear have both been shut down. MBCA has been having a sale on the older manuals available on CD for as little as $30. You might check your model's availability and price. Thanks for the update Jim! Will have to look into MBCA's sale... you don't have to be a member do you? John John, For the manuals, I may have had a brain fart, I think I meant MBUSA vs MBCA. Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 146 K miles
Re: [MBZ] Gas vs. diesel prices?
Hi, All. a. Because they can. b. They may be charging on the quantity of energy per gallon. c. Damfino. Fred Moir Lynn MA Dieselitis Maximus Anyone heard or care to make any guesses on the price difference between gas and diesel? Am I ever going to see Diesel cheaper than gas again? Or is diesel simply going to keep it's 30-80 cent increase in price over gas? Is it because of ulsd? Levi
Re: [MBZ] Gas vs. diesel prices?
Hi Levi..Happy New Year! Diesel is ridiculous around here and I have wondered why myself..It's $2.799 at the place up the road and RUG is $2.40 to $2.42 depending on the mood of the manager I think:) I hate it...I am going to have to leave my diesel van at home and use my Cherokee to pull the trialer to NC this weekend, not because the mileage is better(they both get 13 pulling the trailer) but because of the huge difference in price of the diesel over gas. Seems the price just never went back down like gas did a while backBaffles me. Mike - Original Message - From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 8:18 AM Subject: [MBZ] Gas vs. diesel prices? Anyone heard or care to make any guesses on the price difference between gas and diesel? Am I ever going to see Diesel cheaper than gas again? Or is diesel simply going to keep it's 30-80 cent increase in price over gas? Is it because of ulsd? Levi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] stuck piston ring
Motor uses 1 qt of M1 15w50/100miles. Before I have valve stem seals done I thought I'd try this. This is a V12 gas motor. Runs strong with ALL kinds of power. Just burns/uses oil and has a noise in there. Dunno about the noise, but our 450 SL made clouds of oil smoke, and the problem was only the stem seals on #2. Which I did myself in the driveway in about an hour. Never did replace the other seals. (After six+ years it still doesn't use oil or foul plugs anymore.) -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Gas vs. diesel prices?
At one time, the mount of gas, diesel, etc extracted from a barrel of oil depended on the oil. At that time, diesel as almost a waste product. But through modern cracking reformulation processes, the refineries can choose what they get out of a barrel you can get more gas per gallon of crude oil than diesel. It also doesn't help that diesel is taxed more per gallon than gas. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Canfield Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 8:19 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gas vs. diesel prices? Hi Levi..Happy New Year! Diesel is ridiculous around here and I have wondered why myself..It's $2.799 at the place up the road and RUG is $2.40 to $2.42 depending on the mood of the manager I think:) I hate it...I am going to have to leave my diesel van at home and use my Cherokee to pull the trialer to NC this weekend, not because the mileage is better(they both get 13 pulling the trailer) but because of the huge difference in price of the diesel over gas. Seems the price just never went back down like gas did a while backBaffles me. Mike - Original Message - From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 8:18 AM Subject: [MBZ] Gas vs. diesel prices? Anyone heard or care to make any guesses on the price difference between gas and diesel? Am I ever going to see Diesel cheaper than gas again? Or is diesel simply going to keep it's 30-80 cent increase in price over gas? Is it because of ulsd? Levi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gas vs. diesel prices?
There's another good question...Non taxable Kerosene is the same price as taxable diesel fuel around here. I may be a bit slow at times but that seems like gouging to me. Mike - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gas vs. diesel prices? At one time, the mount of gas, diesel, etc extracted from a barrel of oil depended on the oil. At that time, diesel as almost a waste product. But through modern cracking reformulation processes, the refineries can choose what they get out of a barrel you can get more gas per gallon of crude oil than diesel. It also doesn't help that diesel is taxed more per gallon than gas. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Canfield Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 8:19 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gas vs. diesel prices? Hi Levi..Happy New Year! Diesel is ridiculous around here and I have wondered why myself..It's $2.799 at the place up the road and RUG is $2.40 to $2.42 depending on the mood of the manager I think:) I hate it...I am going to have to leave my diesel van at home and use my Cherokee to pull the trialer to NC this weekend, not because the mileage is better(they both get 13 pulling the trailer) but because of the huge difference in price of the diesel over gas. Seems the price just never went back down like gas did a while backBaffles me. Mike - Original Message - From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 8:18 AM Subject: [MBZ] Gas vs. diesel prices? Anyone heard or care to make any guesses on the price difference between gas and diesel? Am I ever going to see Diesel cheaper than gas again? Or is diesel simply going to keep it's 30-80 cent increase in price over gas? Is it because of ulsd? Levi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trying out 0Wxx Mobil 1
Just catching up on my emails, I managed to get myself a case of food poisoning on a business trip to NYC day before yesterday. I'm still a little queasy but rapidly improving. Anyway, the starter didn't go any slower it just wouldn't spin for as long with the weaker battery. At -10F you need alot of spinning. IIRC you're supposed to let it crank for up to 1 minute. One time I had a couple glowplugs out on the 240D, the GP light didn't come on at all. It'd start down to about 30F but it took alot of cranking to get it to go and when it did there'd be a big cloud of smoke. Remember this, when you decide to start your car START it. None of this pussyfooting around. If its really cold let it glow for 2 full cycles (I haven't found any advantage in more than that) hold the accelerator to the floor and CRANK UNTIL IT STARTS or the battery is dead. If you stop cranking early you're screwed it'll be double hard to start after that. In that case with my car it was time to get out the strap and fire up the pickup truck for a drag around the block. My 190D starts much more easily in the cold. I got it because staring the 240D was wearing on me. Then we bought the house so now I have somewhere to plug in the car... -Curt Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 13:51:18 -0600 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trying out 0Wxx Mobil 1 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed That's interesting about the battery. Did it not sound differently - I mean, the starter didn't audibly sound slower? Maybe it was the frog in the kettle syndrome. Encouraging that starts are possible in those temps without a block heater. My 240D seems to need glow plugs right now - wouldn't start at all last time I tried (in about 30 degree weather). Must order some plugs from Rusty. Often, on my other car, if I have the time, I'll throw my small batt. charger on and set it to boost as I crank, if it's particularly cold outside, just to sort of keep the batt. from having to work so hard as I crank for a longer time. Of course I cringe, hoping the batt. won't explode. Brian 83 240D __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jan 04 15:34:25 2007 Received: from odin.envisagenow.com ([12.2.42.104]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1H2Ubp-0003dB-Jw for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 04 Jan 2007 15:34:25 + Received: from STREIB ([12.2.42.59]) by odin.envisagenow.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 4 Jan 2007 10:31:14 -0500 Received: by STREIB (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 4 Jan 2007 10:31:14 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 10:31:14 -0500 In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Curt Raymond's message of Thu, 4 Jan 2007 07:17:17 -0800 (PST)) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Gnus/5.1007 (Gnus v5.10.7) XEmacs/21.4.19 (windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jan 2007 15:31:14.0073 (UTC) FILETIME=[5E783090:01C73015] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trying out 0Wxx Mobil 1 X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 15:34:26 - Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Remember this, when you decide to start your car START it. None of this pussyfooting around. If its really cold let it glow for 2 full cycles (I haven't found any advantage in more than that) hold the accelerator to the floor and CRANK UNTIL IT STARTS or the battery is dead. Agree with crank until it starts but in my 300D I seem to have better luck by pressing the accelerator to the floor, then releasing it, and then cranking without any throttle, or a very slight throttle, until it starts firing. Then gradually give it more throttle until it is firing on all cylinders. I've heard this hold the throttle to the floor recommendation from several sources but when I do it, it seems to dump in too much fuel (or otherwise squelch the combustion) and it does not start firing until I release the throttle. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] OT: Audi Allroad?
My parents had a '95 Cherokee that they replaced in '01 because it had NO floor under the passenger side. All the way from the firewall to the rear seat was gone. The passenger seat was even missing one bolt that had fallen through the brace. Apparently the windshield leaked which is apparently fairly common. My in-laws have a '96 with the same leak which I've tried to fix with flowable silicon twice. Its only just a tiny leak now but The gasket is nice and pliable. I took it to a glass shop and the guy didn't want to replace it, said it looked fine. -Curt Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 19:52:42 -0500 (EST) From: John W. Reames III [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Audi Allroad? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 2 Jan 2007, Tom Hargrave wrote: This is her second new Grand Cherokee and fourth new Chrysler Product all have performed flawlessly. I've got a 1991 cherokee that is a aquarium in the rain. Literally-- shop vac time after it rains, every time. passenger side only. -j. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jan 04 15:36:56 2007 Received: from alnrmhc12.comcast.net ([206.18.177.52]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1H2UeG-0003kO-GI for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 04 Jan 2007 15:36:56 + Received: from aceraspire (c-68-57-181-125.hsd1.va.comcast.net[68.57.181.125]) by comcast.net (alnrmhc12) with SMTP id 20070104153346b1200boiqee; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 15:33:47 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 10:33:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] burning used oil X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 15:36:56 - You wrote:in TX I believe it is a law that if they sell oil they gotta take oil I believe that is a EPA mandate. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] burning used oil Hans -- here in TX I believe it is a law that if they sell oil they gotta take oil. I go to the O'Reilly's and just go in back and pour mine in a tank they have (they take filters too), or to the recycle facility on Westpark. The recycle facility is sort of a fun experience, in a weird way, the people they have working there seem to get really excited about bringing 3 or 4 gal of oil, for reasons about which I can only speculate. they seem to have some limit but I usually yowyow with the attendant and it works out. --R Hans Neureiter wrote: Long ago there was a discussion on how much drained engine oil (Mobil 1) is OK to put in the fueltank. I am finding it more and more difficult to drop off used oil at mac parts places. They act annoyed and let you wait. At $ 2.50+ a gallon diesel it would also cut down the initial cost of the oil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.16.3/614 - Release Date: 1/2/2007
Re: [MBZ] No glow.
I know Marshall disagrees with me but I figure if any are bad I'll replace them all... -Curt Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 20:42:35 -0500 From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] No glow. To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Well, the results were quite different after unplugging the connector at the relay. 1: 5.75 K Ohms 2: 0.6 Ohms 3: 0.9 Ohms 4: no reading - open circuit 5: 470 Ohms I have 2 spares on hand, guess I'll replace #1 and #4 and order a replacement for #5 plus a few spares -- is #3 on its way out, or is that within the normal range? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jan 04 15:45:36 2007 Received: from mail.atlasok.com ([70.184.24.3]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.52) id 1H2Umd-00044W-VM for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 04 Jan 2007 15:45:36 + Received: (qmail 19344 invoked by uid 508); 4 Jan 2007 09:42:32 -0600 Received: from 70.184.20.61 by mail2.atlasok.com (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED], uid 508) with qmail-scanner-2.01st (clamdscan: 0.90rc2/2257. spamassassin: 2.x. perlscan: 2.01st. Clear:RC:1(70.184.20.61):. Processed in 0.054229 secs); 04 Jan 2007 15:42:32 - Received: from 70-184-20-61.atlasok.com (HELO [192.168.1.100]) (70.184.20.61) by mail.atlasok.com with SMTP; Thu, 04 Jan 2007 09:42:32 -0600 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 09:42:45 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] how the mighty have fallen X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 15:45:36 - Thats Krystal, picture taken at the first OkieQ Sunil Hari wrote: who's the blonde? On 1/3/07, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it will be back, even if only in its shell form. it's just a shame how far down mbz.org has gone given what a major player it once was in the mercedes world On 1/3/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://mbz.org/ it would be sad were it not so comical Hm. Actually I was browsing some of the old mblist and diesel archives there recently, and there's still a lot of useful info to be found. The site navigation is not great, but google has it pretty well indexed. Too bad, really. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Wash Your cars! was Re: RustyQ 2006 Pictures are up
hahaha Chris Kueny wrote: Or...I would have shown you mine if you showed me yours. Your name isn't Tommy, either. What a coincidence.. Chris K Cayce, SC -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
[MBZ] MB Classic Certificate
Anybody ever seen what these certificates look like? http://www.mbusa.com/heritage/certificates.do Would be really cool to have one, but I'm not spending $125 on it anytime soon... John '79 300SD
Re: [MBZ] ATF Type A??
Marshall, am looking forward to your clarification, and answers to the question raised. FWIW, here's what i got from Dave at Redline on the question what's the recommended lube for a Mercedes Manual Trans that specified Type A Automatic Transmission Fluid?: Ernest, Thank you for contacting Red Line Oil, the Type A fluid is a Dexron predecessor, the D4ATF would be a suitable replacement. In the older Mercedes manual transmissions we have used the MTL, what year is the car? Regards, Dave Red Line Oil cheers! e ernest breakfield wrote: marshall, this is confusing; you specifically said that MTL wasn't to be used in the manual boxes, but here say you've tried MTL (but didn't specify which box you're talking about trying it in). please clarify; (although it may be against the creed of some here who seem to think we are to worship Mobil 1 products only,) have you tried any of the the ATF Redline recommends for use in MBZ manual trannys? cheers! e Marshall Booth wrote: Mobil 1 ATF works better than anything I've ever tried (and I have tried Redine MTL). Marshall
Re: [MBZ] W201 Manuals
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the manuals, I may have had a brain fart, I think I meant MBUSA vs MBCA. Ahhh... think I found the page for it, but they don't have a W201 manual. Or a W124 manual either... do you know when they moved to the new system? Maybe thats why it isn't there... Here is the page I found: http://www.classictechlit.mbusa.com/MB/default.asp John
Re: [MBZ] MB Classic Certificate
John - yes, those are very ornate certificates, but IMO a bit steep in price. I've seen them in ads, and also at the Classic Center in Irvine and at Montvale HQ. A lot of the info that they put on the certificate is available a considerably less cost, just not as pretty - like the original build sheets, etc., and via E-mail. Werner '83SD (soon to be a classic, when the 2008 cars are offered) - Original Message - From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 11:23 AM Subject: [MBZ] MB Classic Certificate Anybody ever seen what these certificates look like? http://www.mbusa.com/heritage/certificates.do Would be really cool to have one, but I'm not spending $125 on it anytime soon... John '79 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Washington State (was: rear exhaust hanger question)
They are newbies... A man and his wife moved into our little town in Maine, they had kids and after 20 years started to proclaim themselves natives. The man got taken aside and told that while he was a welcome, valued member of the community he was NOT a native. He exclaimed that his children whom had lived there their whole lives must certainly be natives. The real native replied If your cat had kittens in the oven you wouldn't call them biscuits. Eventually after 40 years in town the man died, on his tombstone they put He was almost one of us. Maine humor, nothing like it. thankfully. -Curt Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 14:37:05 -0500 From: Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Washington State (was: rear exhaust hanger question) To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original The folks in the Pacific Northwest are like any others - treat them like you want to be treated, and you'll get along just fine. Living in NE Tacoma for 3 years, we found the locals all to be as nice or better than we've seen anywhere in the USA - and we all laughed at the tongue-in-cheek comments about immigrants from other states. There was always the unwritten law though that insisted that it rains all the time in Seattle, to discourage too much of an inclination to attract newcomers. In actuality, New York City gets more rainfall every year, although over less days (average). What people don't realize is that Washington has not only high desert that requires irrigation to produce crops, but also has desert and rain forest conditions on the Olympic peninsula. The neat part is that most years, there are flowers and green grass, and little snow to bother with for any long periods. Now if you want a bit of snobbery (flame suit on), take a good look at the old New England states, where if you didn't get your feet wet while climbing off the Mayflower, you are just a newbie. Werner __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jan 04 17:23:11 2007 Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.241]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1H2WJ4-0006kd-TZ for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 04 Jan 2007 17:23:11 + Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b6so1899729ana for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 04 Jan 2007 09:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.133.10 with SMTP id g10mr2649115hud.1167931201934; Thu, 04 Jan 2007 09:20:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.178.3 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Jan 2007 09:20:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 12:20:01 -0500 From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp1 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - lost baggage fiasco X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 17:23:12 - Also, if your luggage is likely to be delivered after 11 pm, be sure to tell them explicitly to TELEPHONE or RING THE DOORBELL rather than leaving the pieces outside. The only reason to leave them on a side porch is if you are not at home at the time, and you live in a safe neighborhood. On 1/4/07, BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A Veterinarian friend who did international sales for Eli Lilly got so fed up with baggage problems that after a few months he did all his travel with only a briefcase. It ahs been awhile, but IIRC he would go for almost a week that way. Every night he washed out clothes and hung them to dry. Worked for him; I'm just glad they put wheels on suitcases. BillR Jacksonville FL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 11:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - lost baggage fiasco Moral of the experience: carry less impedimenta on your trips. I have a friend who
Re: [MBZ] Washington State (was: rear exhaust hanger question)
I like that Maine humor. It's the only other state I could imagine living for an extended period. Obviously, that wouldn't make me a native, nor even welcome. I constantly give my wife grief because she was born in Virginia, yet claims to be a WA native. She moved out to Seattle at age three months. On 1/4/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A man and his wife moved into our little town in Maine, they had kids and after 20 years started to proclaim themselves natives. The man got taken aside and told that while he was a welcome, valued member of the community he was NOT a native. He exclaimed that his children whom had lived there their whole lives must certainly be natives. The real native replied If your cat had kittens in the oven you wouldn't call them biscuits. Eventually after 40 years in town the man died, on his tombstone they put He was almost one of us. Maine humor, nothing like it. thankfully. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22 0-60mph 7.3sec (220k) '84 300D (218k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG
Re: [MBZ] Gas vs. diesel prices?
Perhaps it has something to do with the cost of creating the new ultralow sulfur diesel fuel? On 1/4/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's another good question...Non taxable Kerosene is the same price as taxable diesel fuel around here. I may be a bit slow at times but that seems like gouging to me. Mike - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gas vs. diesel prices? At one time, the mount of gas, diesel, etc extracted from a barrel of oil depended on the oil. At that time, diesel as almost a waste product. But through modern cracking reformulation processes, the refineries can choose what they get out of a barrel you can get more gas per gallon of crude oil than diesel. It also doesn't help that diesel is taxed more per gallon than gas. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Canfield Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 8:19 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gas vs. diesel prices? Hi Levi..Happy New Year! Diesel is ridiculous around here and I have wondered why myself..It's $2.799 at the place up the road and RUG is $2.40 to $2.42 depending on the mood of the manager I think:) I hate it...I am going to have to leave my diesel van at home and use my Cherokee to pull the trialer to NC this weekend, not because the mileage is better(they both get 13 pulling the trailer) but because of the huge difference in price of the diesel over gas. Seems the price just never went back down like gas did a while backBaffles me. Mike - Original Message - From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 8:18 AM Subject: [MBZ] Gas vs. diesel prices? Anyone heard or care to make any guesses on the price difference between gas and diesel? Am I ever going to see Diesel cheaper than gas again? Or is diesel simply going to keep it's 30-80 cent increase in price over gas? Is it because of ulsd? Levi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Flashing 124 recirc switch light SOLVED!
On Wed, 3 Jan 2007, Jim Cathey wrote: I tried on a 201 panel. No joy, nor could I use my old HP 1630D logic analyzer to get anything. The bursts are too quick, spaced too far apart. Drastically different time scales, both important to the job. I wonder how well just a simple dc504 (tek) in totalize would work? -j.
Re: [MBZ] MB Classic Certificate
I suppose one could always try to but it cheaper from a competitor... NOT! I may order one before they realize their monopoly power to set the price just about anywhere they wanted to... On 1/4/07, Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John - yes, those are very ornate certificates, but IMO a bit steep in price. I've seen them in ads, and also at the Classic Center in Irvine and at Montvale HQ. A lot of the info that they put on the certificate is available a considerably less cost, just not as pretty - like the original build sheets, etc., and via E-mail. Werner '83SD (soon to be a classic, when the 2008 cars are offered) - Original Message - From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 11:23 AM Subject: [MBZ] MB Classic Certificate Anybody ever seen what these certificates look like? http://www.mbusa.com/heritage/certificates.do Would be really cool to have one, but I'm not spending $125 on it anytime soon... John '79 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] speaking of ULSD
Last time I filled up last week was the first time I noticed the sticker saying it was the ULSD. Since we seem to be getting it now, should I be adding anything to each tank of diesel? Marshall? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Gas vs. diesel prices?
In MA IIRC diesel is taxed something like $0.40 more per gallon than gas. With diesel now onyl $0.30/gal more than gas it'd be cheaper than gas if it weren't for the tax... It gets cheaper in the summer too, remember that diesel and home heating fuel are the same thing. Get everybody to convert to propane, natural gas or (shudder) electric and diesel prices would plummet. -Curt Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 08:18:27 -0500 From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Gas vs. diesel prices? To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Anyone heard or care to make any guesses on the price difference between gas and diesel? Am I ever going to see Diesel cheaper than gas again? Or is diesel simply going to keep it's 30-80 cent increase in price over gas? Is it because of ulsd? Levi __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jan 04 18:14:18 2007 Received: from web32803.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.33]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1H2X6Y-0008Gg-1R for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 04 Jan 2007 18:14:18 + Received: (qmail 31424 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Jan 2007 18:11:10 - X-YMail-OSG: nftKyXgVM1l5r7NQBDSs3DYaZBvf2IAvGbUvejgxs0Oi.OQ8AQ5xVNvw8dVl.gDq6v85wV_X2u34FCY1u7V3FRk_WP_yjshrhH5Le1qT2BUFJ6Rikf.5uyLEhpkaVdol75lP_TThywAAIqnjfOpCVPuik6ZdWpncwtwvZua2T6MBB3uMtckwoRZpwmCN Received: from [63.209.225.74] by web32803.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 04 Jan 2007 10:11:09 PST Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 10:11:09 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp1 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gas vs. diesel prices? X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 18:14:18 - MUCH lower demand for kerosene these days. Add to that kerosene of today (K1) is not what kerosesne of yesterday (stove oil) was. Today its a lighter faction of diesel fuel. Back in the day it was whatever was leftover after the refining process was complete. Good: K1 stinks alot less and burns alot cleaner. Newer refining processes keep all oil based fuels way cheaper than they should be based on inflation and increases in the cost of extraction. Bad: Expensive K1. -Curt Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 09:41:34 -0500 From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gas vs. diesel prices? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original There's another good question...Non taxable Kerosene is the same price as taxable diesel fuel around here. I may be a bit slow at times but that seems like gouging to me. Mike __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jan 04 18:18:27 2007 Received: from web32811.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.41]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1H2XAY-0008Ni-Ja for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 04 Jan 2007 18:18:27 + Received: (qmail 96972 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Jan 2007 18:15:18 - X-YMail-OSG: 6hO_m_cVM1kFquAGlv5cM9XCZoWiwciLRcYMR1pj.qke31imlSCRDmtMd0c7AYEQH76fTqcQMykhXEsyTSC15L4ylUjy9TtQTF8rjf2hGcxTRbH8Y79nReVosLhmbPHk.XgIXGYJDI2erMw- Received: from [63.209.225.74] by web32811.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 04 Jan 2007 10:15:18 PST Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 10:15:18 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp1 Subject: [MBZ] OT: Spiders X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List
Re: [MBZ] OT: Spiders
Curt, Flush by inhaling water thru nose.. Just a palm full or two! Then BLOW! Food poisoning from what source? Warning: Excessive water could lead to drowning! BTDT, but not recently. Take care and get well, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Jan 4, 2007, at 8:15 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: Since I'm home sick (repeat after me, food poisoning is nothing you want) I'm desparate for entertainment. http://www.devilducky.com/media/55981/ BTW, somebody on here the other day mentioned he was a barfer. I'm not so this is a new (extremely unpleasant) experience for me. How do I get the barf bits out of my nose? -Curt __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Subaru to make world's first boxer turbodiesel
COOL! Now if only it were coming to the US next year for $5K got 75mpg and came in an AWD minivan... Levi (: Ahh, dreams... On 1/4/07, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://news.hspn.com/articles/793/3/Subaru-at-The-2006-Paris-Motorshow/Page3.html Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '92 Isuzu Trooper ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Salvage yards in California and Oregon
On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 12:39:47 -0800 Alan Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found a right fender in good shape at a Pick and Pull. The problem was getting the thing off of the vehicle. They use some sort of putty on the seam that was impossible to get off. The manual talks about using heat to soften it and I had a small butane blow torch thing but that didn't help. I gave up, a few people followed me and they were unsuccessful also getting the fender off, all bolts had been removed it was just that damn putty. Asked a knowledgeable body shop fellow who just stated that's why we use new ones. The 115s and early 123s used putty to seal the fender to body joint; the later ones have a plastic wheel well shield and no putty. I had no problems doing the change in the parking lot of Silver Star Recycling in Rancho Cordova, CA. Craig
Re: [MBZ] Salvage yards in California and Oregon
On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 23:18:09 -0800 woodlandtaylors [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Craig, Did you look around the place? I brought a Gas inline six cylinder from them for $349 turned out a very fair deal. Know if they had hinges in gold for 123? I think I recall a gold-colored car, and I think it was a 123, but I'm not sure. I found them by searching for silver start recycling on Google. (It turns out, there is another business with the same name in Fresno, CA.) Look them up and give them a call; they did say that they shipped stuff all over. Craig
[MBZ] Heya new baum tools goodie:
I was digging through their catalog for grins this morning and saw something called a QP1000 Torsion Bar saver for W123 and W126.. We all know how the torsion (sway) bar will break at the thin part (from rust)... This is a replacement end that you weld onto the bar (after cutting it back 1/2 from the thin section) Sounds slick if anyone needs it (beats the heck out of removing the bar, that looks like MAJOR pain--aren't we talking about vacuum booster, fuse box, heater hoses and pump/monovalve (126), fenders, other electronic goodness (abs stuff in a sdl?) Anyhow, if anyone needs it. Looked kinda cute. -j.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Spiders
when barfing, keep your mouth open, it makes it a lot easier. :-) Ed 911SC On 04/01/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since I'm home sick (repeat after me, food poisoning is nothing you want) I'm desparate for entertainment. http://www.devilducky.com/media/55981/ BTW, somebody on here the other day mentioned he was a barfer. I'm not so this is a new (extremely unpleasant) experience for me. How do I get the barf bits out of my nose? -Curt __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Spiders
Thanks, Curt, for allowing me to read this note while eating a freshly made breakfast burro. I was mentioning yacking the other day, but it was after too many vicadin on an empty stomach. Food poisoning is not funI equate it to the time I took a tumble into a sewage pumping station (while working for my dad in the sewers of Illinois) and spent three weeks in the hsp. Bob R. - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 11:15 AM Subject: [MBZ] OT: Spiders Since I'm home sick (repeat after me, food poisoning is nothing you want) I'm desparate for entertainment. http://www.devilducky.com/media/55981/ BTW, somebody on here the other day mentioned he was a barfer. I'm not so this is a new (extremely unpleasant) experience for me. How do I get the barf bits out of my nose? -Curt __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] speaking of ULSD
As I recall he's short, but I don't think Marshall is small enough to get past the filler spout. Tim 1982 300TD 1001 300TE 4Matic -- Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 11:57:14 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] speaking of ULSD Last time I filled up last week was the first time I noticed the sticker saying it was the ULSD. Since we seem to be getting it now, should I be adding anything to each tank of diesel? Marshall?
Re: [MBZ] W201 Manuals
On Wed, 3 Jan 2007, John Robbins wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are talking about on line sources, I think that skinnerbox-steaky and braingear have both been shut down. MBCA has been having a sale on the older manuals available on CD for as little as $30. You might check your model's availability and price. W123? W210? OM606? -j.
Re: [MBZ] speaking of ULSD
Hmm... It would be hard to argue that adding Marshall to any Mercedes could be anything but good... Levi (: On 1/4/07, TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I recall he's short, but I don't think Marshall is small enough to get past the filler spout. Tim 1982 300TD 1001 300TE 4Matic -- Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 11:57:14 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] speaking of ULSD Last time I filled up last week was the first time I noticed the sticker saying it was the ULSD. Since we seem to be getting it now, should I be adding anything to each tank of diesel? Marshall? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dented 300CD
On Wed, 3 Jan 2007, woodlandtaylors wrote: Follow up on the 300CD.would not increase the $2300 offer on the car so instead are going to repair it. The body shop manager/estimator tried to talk some sense into the insurance guy stating that although it has 310K miles on it one look at the vehicle and you tell it's been well looked after. scr*w kbb. Go to nada classics. You will be suprised. You might want to talk about lawyering .. I want to say Average retail is close to 7,000 and High retail is upwards of 9,000 from memory. High retail is not a 100 pointer either, It is just in tip-top shape with no need of reconditioning (mechanics, interior or paint) State Farm did that for my 84 SD about 14 mos ago and came up with $7800 value (!) BTW I think low retail is still north of $4,000 -j.
[MBZ] 190D 2.2 Tranny Fluid Capacity
I feel horrible asking this since it is definitely a RTFM thing but I have no manual to read... so a quick question. 84 190D 2.2 Automatic What is the transmission fluid capacity?I'm about to change the filter, etc... Thanks! John
Re: [MBZ] speaking of ULSD
Add one capful of MBoothium with every fill-up and you'll drive forever... On 1/4/07, Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm... It would be hard to argue that adding Marshall to any Mercedes could be anything but good... Levi (: On 1/4/07, TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I recall he's short, but I don't think Marshall is small enough to get past the filler spout. Tim 1982 300TD 1001 300TE 4Matic -- Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 11:57:14 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] speaking of ULSD Last time I filled up last week was the first time I noticed the sticker saying it was the ULSD. Since we seem to be getting it now, should I be adding anything to each tank of diesel? Marshall? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gas vs. diesel prices?
On Thu, 4 Jan 2007, Levi Smith wrote: Anyone heard or care to make any guesses on the price difference between gas and diesel? Am I ever going to see Diesel cheaper than gas again? Or is diesel simply going to keep it's 30-80 cent increase in price over gas? Is it because of ulsd? Where I buy, Diesel is 2.59 and High-test is 2.59... Does anyone here put low-grade in their MB gassers? -j.
Re: [MBZ] Trying out 0Wxx Mobil 1
Allan Streib wrote: Agree with crank until it starts... Me too. A VW mechanic once told me he instructed his customers to crank it until it starts or until it becomes clear it's not going to, because if you stop and then try again, you've essentially started the process all over again. In cold weather you may only have the battery power for one shot at it. He also noted that if the car is going to start, it will probably fire within the first 15 seconds. (15 seconds doesn't sound like much, but it seems like a long time when you're cranking an engine.) It's also important to not release the key the first time the engine fires, like you would on a gasoline engine. Keep it turned until the engine is actually *running*. Otherwise it tends to fire once and then die. I don't remember what the Mercedes manual says, but the one for my VW said to hold the key in the start position until the engine is firing regularly or words to that effect. I've heard this hold the throttle to the floor recommendation from several sources but when I do it, it seems to dump in too much fuel (or otherwise squelch the combustion) and it does not start firing until I release the throttle. I had the best luck with 1/3 to 1/2 throttle, myself. I'd hold it there while cranking, then slowly back off as the engine picked up speed, trying to keep it around 1,000 RPM until all the cylinders were firing. This was on cold starts. On hot starts I didn't touch the throttle.
Re: [MBZ] Washington State (was: rear exhaust hanger question)
And we think canines are territorial. Brian On 1/4/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They are newbies... A man and his wife moved into our little town in Maine, they had kids and after 20 years started to proclaim themselves natives. The man got taken aside and told that while he was a welcome, valued member of the community he was NOT a native. He exclaimed that his children whom had lived there their whole lives must certainly be natives. The real native replied If your cat had kittens in the oven you wouldn't call them biscuits. Eventually after 40 years in town the man died, on his tombstone they put He was almost one of us. Maine humor, nothing like it. thankfully. -Curt
Re: [MBZ] 300CD damage and value.
woodlandtaylors wrote: So the body shop has had it for two weeks and done a small amount of work on it and the estimate is $2300 for repairs. Now the insurance company is wanting to total vehicle and offer the $2300 as pay out. I say not enough... they state value in Washington State is what similar vehicles are selling for. any thoughts... Their offer is just that, an offer. You can reject it and try to convince them your car is worth more than they're claiming. The best way to do this is to search eBay and Craigslist for similar cars that are selling for more money. If you can get the seller to send you a letter confirming the price the car sold for, that's even better, because it represents an actual selling price, not an advertised price. You probably don't need a lawyer, but you will need to devote some time. There's a good narrative from someone else who went through this process here: http://gerry.vanagon.com/files/auto-insurance-madness.html Keep in mind that you can always buy the car back for its salvage value if they do total it. It'll have a salvage title, though, which will forever reduce its resale value and may make it hard to get collision or comprehensive insurance on.
Re: [MBZ] MB Classic Certificate
Andrew - I don't know of any competitor to D-C that would have access to the build records. All I know is that in the past, I have received almost all the certificate data in plain text form via Email at no cost, from MBUSA. The certificate from the Classic Center is very suitable for framing, as opposed to an ordinary Email printout! Werner - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB Classic Certificate I suppose one could always try to but it cheaper from a competitor... NOT! I may order one before they realize their monopoly power to set the price just about anywhere they wanted to...
Re: [MBZ] speaking of ULSD
Kaleb - I've had several tankfuls of the 15ppm fuel since September, and now that's all they have around here. Both the '90 2.5 and the '83 SD seem to run just fine. The low sulfur worries may well be similar to when they took the lead out of gasoline, when there were dire warnings of valve wear, etc. That seems now to be more urban legend than anything else. Time will tell if ULSD follows a similar story line... Werner '83SD; '90D - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 12:57 PM Subject: [MBZ] speaking of ULSD Last time I filled up last week was the first time I noticed the sticker saying it was the ULSD. Since we seem to be getting it now, should I be adding anything to each tank of diesel? Marshall? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Gas vs. diesel prices?
At the FlyingJ last weekend in South Jersey, ULSD was 2.43, and RUG was 2.24. Somehow,across the state line in DE and PA, they manage to rip drivers off by charging 40-60 cents more per gallon for Diesel fuel, while only charging 10-20 cents more for gas. Can't all be just taxes. Werner - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gas vs. diesel prices? In MA IIRC diesel is taxed something like $0.40 more per gallon than gas. With diesel now onyl $0.30/gal more than gas it'd be cheaper than gas if it weren't for the tax... It gets cheaper in the summer too, remember that diesel and home heating fuel are the same thing. Get everybody to convert to propane, natural gas or (shudder) electric and diesel prices would plummet. -Curt Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 08:18:27 -0500 From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Gas vs. diesel prices? To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Anyone heard or care to make any guesses on the price difference between gas and diesel? Am I ever going to see Diesel cheaper than gas again? Or is diesel simply going to keep it's 30-80 cent increase in price over gas? Is it because of ulsd? Levi
Re: [MBZ] Washington State
Zeitgeist wrote: Dude, I've met folks just like that. I'm just the messenger. This state is plum full of kooks. I think people just got kind of tired, during the 90s, of Californians moving into the area, driving rent up to extraordinary levels, and then whining about the rain.
Re: [MBZ] Beru or Bosch glow plugs? (was: No glow.)
i'm just a mean fatman :( On 1/3/07, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ouch On 1/3/07, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how do they glow plugs work though in your 111? On 1/3/07, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Beru spark plugs really rock in my 111 280SE 3.5. They look cool and the engine runs like buttah. On 1/3/07, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: general preference is for bosch. everyone hates monark, except for me, as i prefer monark. no one ever buys berus, which leads me think they are the brand to go with. confused? me too! On 1/2/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do folks like Beru or Bosch glow plugs? My spares were Bosch; the Beru are slightly cheaper but not enough to sway me one way or the other. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Washington State
Zoltan Finks wrote: I'm a vegetarian environmentalist who is against gay marriage and handouts for illegals (for example). Homosexuals seem to be one of the few minorities it's still okay to discriminate against. I've always found it striking that the arguments against gay marriage are mostly the same ones that were used against interracial marriage, back when that was illegal.
