Re: [MBZ] Compressor woes, post mortem.

2007-02-20 Thread Jim Cathey

Well, my A/C compressor had well and truly killed itself.  Indy says it
appears to have gotten a slug of liquid.  He got the supplier to 
warrant it


That would imply that it probably has a broken reed valve.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Accents

2007-02-20 Thread Jim Cathey
Just type in alt 0-2-4-6 for ö; alt 0-2-5-2 for ü, etc.  That will 
get

you past most German words used in these lists!


Should have bought a Mac: Umlaut-u (ü) is Alt-u-u, umlaut-anything is
alt-u-anything.  All the basic euro-accents are that way, associated
with their most common (in English) letter.  Cedilla is alt-c ç, the
'elan' accent alt-e-e é, circumflex is alt-i- î, Alt-a is å, alt-o is
ø, alt-n-n is ñ, etc.  (Oh, I forgot to do alt-u-o: ö.  Alt-u-i is ï.)

These ALL from memory, no stinking charts needed!  This keyboard
input method has been there since the beginning.  (To be fair, so
has the alt-numeric input of the PC, though I find the numbers
completely unmnemonic.)

For the less common ones I also have to use the chart application,
but you can go surprisingly far without it.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Accents

2007-02-20 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 16:10:24 -0800 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

  Just type in alt 0-2-4-6 for ö; alt 0-2-5-2 for ü, etc.  That will
  
  get
  you past most German words used in these lists!
 
 Should have bought a Mac: Umlaut-u (ü) is Alt-u-u, umlaut-anything is
 alt-u-anything.  All the basic euro-accents are that way, associated
 with their most common (in English) letter.  Cedilla is alt-c ç, the
 'elan' accent alt-e-e é, circumflex is alt-i- î, Alt-a is å, alt-o is
 ø, alt-n-n is ñ, etc.  (Oh, I forgot to do alt-u-o: ö.  Alt-u-i is ï.)
 
 These ALL from memory, no stinking charts needed!  This keyboard
 input method has been there since the beginning.  (To be fair, so
 has the alt-numeric input of the PC, though I find the numbers
 completely unmnemonic.)

Similar on Linux, with the left Winders key mapped to the Multi-key with
the command,
  /usr/X11R6/bin/xmodmap -e 'keycode 115 = Multi_key'


Type left Winders key, type the accent mark desired (double quote, , for
umlaut) and type the letter to be accented. So, ü ä ö, and è é ê (that's
left single quote, right single quote, and capital-6), and so forth, no
table needed. ç Ç use comma.


Craig



Re: [MBZ] Accents

2007-02-20 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 17:28:18 -0700 Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Similar on Linux, with the left Winders key mapped to the Multi-key with
 the command,
   /usr/X11R6/bin/xmodmap -e 'keycode 115 = Multi_key'
 
 
 Type left Winders key, type the accent mark desired (double quote, ,
 for umlaut) and type the letter to be accented. So, ü ä ö, and è é ê
 (that's left single quote, right single quote, and capital-6), and so
 forth, no table needed. ç Ç use comma.


And, being in New Mexico, how could I forget: Ñ, ñ, and the inverted
exclamation point (which doesn't work correctly in this email program but
does work correctly in OpenOffice; left Winders key, capital-1,
capital-1).


Craig



[MBZ] cheap 190D with bad trans

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Anyone who has helped a complete novice learn how to use a Mac, especially
during a stint in a help desk environment, simply must watch this hilarious
video, which demonstrates well that all interfaces must be learned. The audio is
reportedly in Norwegian, with English and Danish subtitles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRjVeRbhtRU


Re: [MBZ] Using the help desk

2007-02-20 Thread LT Don

I'd watch it were it not for the fact that I spent two years on a help desk
(Barnett Bank). Don't want a bad night from PTSD.

On 2/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Anyone who has helped a complete novice learn how to use a Mac, especially
during a stint in a help desk environment, simply must watch this
hilarious
video, which demonstrates well that all interfaces must be learned. The
audio is
reportedly in Norwegian, with English and Danish subtitles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRjVeRbhtRU
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[MBZ] Steel Wheels??

2007-02-20 Thread John Peterson

Does anyone know where I can get steel wheels for my 300D 2.5? (1991)

I have found 15x6 steel wheels- and 16 inch steel ones, but none 15x6.5 
which is the original size I have.


Here are some for sale- would anyone of these work?  I would like a set 
for snow tires.


http://theserviceadvisor.com/part/steelwheelbestmercedes/index.html

John Peterson
Kingston RI 
1991 300D 2.5 81k





Re: [MBZ] Steel Wheels??

2007-02-20 Thread LT Don

Kaleb.

On 2/19/07, John Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Does anyone know where I can get steel wheels for my 300D 2.5? (1991)

I have found 15x6 steel wheels- and 16 inch steel ones, but none 15x6.5
which is the original size I have.

Here are some for sale- would anyone of these work?  I would like a set
for snow tires.

http://theserviceadvisor.com/part/steelwheelbestmercedes/index.html

John Peterson
Kingston RI
1991 300D 2.5 81k


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Re: [MBZ] Steel Wheels??

2007-02-20 Thread OK Don

This was Marshall's response to the same question, but referring to
alloy wheels (IIRC) --

Aaron Lam wrote:

You shouldn't have any problems. In the rest of the world, lower-spec
124s came with 15x6 wheels.


Those rest of the world cars (that had smaller engines and weighed
less) had smaller brake assemblies that would clear the early 6 wheels.
124s with larger brake assemblies (as did all US delivered 124s) would
not allow early 6 wheels to turn on the front axles. Later 6 wheels
(they started supplying them in late '86 I think and by early '87 most
US cars with 6 wheels had the later wheels) MIGHT be okay (I've not
tried them on my 124).

My local salvage yard only wanted $50 each for used alloys in good
condition for my '90 300D 2.5 -- you might check for used alloys --

Also - the steel wheels will need shorter lug bolts -- factory alloys
will use the same ones, my salvage yard threw in the set of lug bolts
with the wheels, so I now have a few spares.




On 2/19/07, John Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does anyone know where I can get steel wheels for my 300D 2.5? (1991)

 I have found 15x6 steel wheels- and 16 inch steel ones, but none 15x6.5
 which is the original size I have.

 Here are some for sale- would anyone of these work?  I would like a set
 for snow tires.

 http://theserviceadvisor.com/part/steelwheelbestmercedes/index.html

 John Peterson
 Kingston RI
 1991 300D 2.5 81k


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Re: [MBZ] nozzle observation

2007-02-20 Thread John Freer

They all did except for BP...green is diesel.

On 2/19/07, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Glenn Brown wrote:
 The BP stations here have orange diesel pump coverings to distinguish
them
 from their green covered gas nozzles.  I wish the industry would unite
on
 one color code.

I've written to BP several times suggesting a pump nozzle color standard
(as different BP stations are NOT uniform). They have NOT bothered to
reply.

Marshall
--
Marshall Booth Ph.D.
Ass't Prof. (ret.)
Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine
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Re: [MBZ] Reserve Fuel Can

2007-02-20 Thread andrew strasfogel

There was a spare 20 gallon tank in the trunk of my 115 1976 300D.  It
was rectangular.  Total fill up was 40 gallons, or about a month of
driving (1,000 miles).

On 2/19/07, Larry T [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Werner,
There's a photo in the eBay advert - item # 4427103012543053 from my earlier 
post -

it's an almost round/flat can which looks like ity would fit into the wheel 
well.  Wouldn't want that in the trunk during an accident - at least the gas 
tanks of most vehicles are enclosed in chassis members,

Later --

--
-- Original message --
From: Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Anyone have a picture of one of these reserve tanks? I would think that
 there would be some safety concerns, especially is used in a gasser. Many
 will say that carrying a can of gas in the trunk is akin to carrying around
 an incendiary bomb. Diesel fuel isn't as explosive, so might be OK as long
 as there's no leakage to make everything in the trunk smell like a refinery.

 Werner

 - Original Message -
 From: LarryT
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 9:07 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Reserve Fuel Can


  Here's one currently on eBay - 150092451551 - says it's for W108, W113,
  W115
   W116 - currently at $125 with a Buy it Now of $135.
 
  Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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  .
  - Original Message -
  From: Kaleb C. Striplin
  To: Mercedes Discussion List
  Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 9:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Reserve Fuel Can
 
 
  the only time I have seen them were for certain older models and they
  were VERY expensive. Did you get one for newer cars?
 
  Eric Anderton wrote:
  Well I couldn't resist anymore and bought one of those reserve fuel
  cans that fit inside the spare you see all the time on ebay. Now that
  I have it I was wondering if someone could share the story behind them
  with me. This is the can that fits in the spare wheel, what
  applications originally used this container? Was their a special bolt
  that held it in, as the stock one is too short to reach though it to
  the mounting bolt? Was this a european market only item?
  Many Thanks,
  Eric Anderton
  85 300DT
  74 240D
  74 240D (parts car)


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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 15, Issue 70

2007-02-20 Thread andrew strasfogel

Enough of the bragging already!  I get bopped on the head every time
if I'm not careful... (on my third set of struts).

1983 3000TD
280 K miles

On 2/19/07, Royce Engler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Andrew said

 Looks pretty good considering all its ailments.  I like the fact that
 the hatch stays open in winter.  My 123 300TD hatch struts are
 degassed again.  :(


Just replaced mine a few weeks ago for the second time ever.  This time I
got a pair from Rusty, and I have to really strain to pull down the hatch.
It almost pops open by itself.  That ought to last a good 8 or 9 more
years...

Royce Engler
1985 300TD Turbo 290K




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Re: [MBZ] Accents

2007-02-20 Thread andrew strasfogel

?? I don't have  an Alt key on my Imac.  What gives?
On 2/19/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just type in alt 0-2-4-6 for ö; alt 0-2-5-2 for ü, etc.  That will
 get
 you past most German words used in these lists!

Should have bought a Mac: Umlaut-u (ü) is Alt-u-u, umlaut-anything is
alt-u-anything.  All the basic euro-accents are that way, associated
with their most common (in English) letter.  Cedilla is alt-c ç, the
'elan' accent alt-e-e é, circumflex is alt-i- î, Alt-a is å, alt-o is
ø, alt-n-n is ñ, etc.  (Oh, I forgot to do alt-u-o: ö.  Alt-u-i is ï.)

These ALL from memory, no stinking charts needed!  This keyboard
input method has been there since the beginning.  (To be fair, so
has the alt-numeric input of the PC, though I find the numbers
completely unmnemonic.)

For the less common ones I also have to use the chart application,
but you can go surprisingly far without it.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Reserve Fuel Can

2007-02-20 Thread Werner Fehlauer

Andrew -
Let's see - 40 gallons x 8 lbs = 320 lbs, or like carrying around 2 extra 
adults.  That has to cost something in MPG, and certainly in performance. 
Its probably a necessity to carry that much fuel if you're running in the 
Paris-Dakar rallye, but not too practical in most of the USA!


Werner

- Original Message - 
From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 10:40 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Reserve Fuel Can



There was a spare 20 gallon tank in the trunk of my 115 1976 300D.  It
was rectangular.  Total fill up was 40 gallons, or about a month of
driving (1,000 miles).





Re: [MBZ] OT - PCs and Macs (was) Accents

2007-02-20 Thread Werner Fehlauer
Jim - after more than 30 years of using PCs (starting with an 8080 in kit 
form), I suppose I'm too old to switch to one of those Apple/Mac/whatever 
boxes.  Even worked up a box with a 6502 processor (as used in the early 
Apples) but on an S-100 bus, with a 300 baud modem using tape on the Kansas 
City standard.  In those days memory was around $100 a K!
Ditched that and went to a Z80 and dual 8 floppy drives. Finally sprung for 
a complete PC when the company offered them on an employee plan. Have 
probably gone through almost a dozen bigger and better ones over the 
years.
Always heard that they were the greatest for publication and artwork, but 
also was turned off by the higher pricing and lack of being able to kloodge 
up a system using various and sundry after market accessories.


Werner

- Original Message - 
From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Accents



Just type in alt 0-2-4-6 for ö; alt 0-2-5-2 for ü, etc.  That will
get
you past most German words used in these lists!


Should have bought a Mac: Umlaut-u (ü) is Alt-u-u, umlaut-anything is
alt-u-anything.  All the basic euro-accents are that way, associated
with their most common (in English) letter.  Cedilla is alt-c ç, the
'elan' accent alt-e-e é, circumflex is alt-i- î, Alt-a is å, alt-o is
ø, alt-n-n is ñ, etc.  (Oh, I forgot to do alt-u-o: ö.  Alt-u-i is ï.)

These ALL from memory, no stinking charts needed!  This keyboard
input method has been there since the beginning.  (To be fair, so
has the alt-numeric input of the PC, though I find the numbers
completely unmnemonic.)

For the less common ones I also have to use the chart application,
but you can go surprisingly far without it.

-- Jim






Re: [MBZ] Accents

2007-02-20 Thread Chuck Landenberger

Andrew,

Look on the lower left side of the keyboard, to the left of the  
apple key.  On that key, Option is printed and on the top in  
less noticeable letters


Voila,  alt..

That's how it is on the keyboards of my iBook and eMac

Chuck
Phoenix AZ
On Feb 19, 2007, at 8:46 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:


?? I don't have  an Alt key on my Imac.  What gives?





Re: [MBZ] OT - PCs and Macs (was) Accents

2007-02-20 Thread Chuck Landenberger

Werner,

Never say I'm too old  Try a Mac, you'll like it.

Don't want to pay new price.  Go to Craigslist and take your pick...

Chuck
iMac G4 laptop and eMac

On Feb 19, 2007, at 9:52 PM, Werner Fehlauer wrote:

Jim - after more than 30 years of using PCs (starting with an 8080  
in kit
form), I suppose I'm too old to switch to one of those Apple/Mac/ 
whatever
boxes.  Even worked up a box with a 6502 processor (as used in the  
early
Apples) but on an S-100 bus, with a 300 baud modem using tape on  
the Kansas

City standard.  In those days memory was around $100 a K!
Ditched that and went to a Z80 and dual 8 floppy drives. Finally  
sprung for

a complete PC when the company offered them on an employee plan. Have
probably gone through almost a dozen bigger and better ones over the
years.
Always heard that they were the greatest for publication and  
artwork, but
also was turned off by the higher pricing and lack of being able to  
kloodge

up a system using various and sundry after market accessories.

Werner

- Original Message -
From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Accents


Just type in alt 0-2-4-6 for ö; alt 0-2-5-2 for ü, etc.  That  
will

get
you past most German words used in these lists!


Should have bought a Mac: Umlaut-u (ü) is Alt-u-u, umlaut-anything is
alt-u-anything.  All the basic euro-accents are that way, associated
with their most common (in English) letter.  Cedilla is alt-c ç, the
'elan' accent alt-e-e é, circumflex is alt-i- î, Alt-a is å, alt-o is
ø, alt-n-n is ñ, etc.  (Oh, I forgot to do alt-u-o: ö.  Alt-u-i is ï.)

These ALL from memory, no stinking charts needed!  This keyboard
input method has been there since the beginning.  (To be fair, so
has the alt-numeric input of the PC, though I find the numbers
completely unmnemonic.)

For the less common ones I also have to use the chart application,
but you can go surprisingly far without it.

-- Jim




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[MBZ] Southern Treffen

2007-02-20 Thread Werner Fehlauer
Chuck - are you still driving East for ST?  I'm still not hearing many 
comforting words from MBUSI in Vance in regard to a plant tour, but I won't 
give up yet!


Werner




Re: [MBZ] OT - PCs and Macs (was) Accents

2007-02-20 Thread Werner Fehlauer
Chuck - You're probably correct - too old really means not enough time 
to go through the trauma of convincing SWMBO to bring in yet another box; 
get rid of the 4 computers now in use and all the software, books, etc; 
figure out how to transfer all the data that a good packrat saves  - and on 
and on

Besides, its more fun to fool around with cars most of the time!

Werner

- Original Message - 
From: Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 11:58 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - PCs and Macs (was) Accents


Werner,

Never say I'm too old  Try a Mac, you'll like it.

Don't want to pay new price.  Go to Craigslist and take your pick...

Chuck
iMac G4 laptop and eMac





Re: [MBZ] Southern Treffen

2007-02-20 Thread Chuck Landenberger

Werner,

I've been looking at the pocketbook...  Pondering Southern Treffen,  
German Tour, Tri-O-Rama and there's StarTech tacked onto the Board  
Meeting, which I will, of course, be attending..


Air Fare for the German Tour is now about $1200, so that's out!   I  
think I'm going to just do StarTech and Tri-O-Rama...  and probably  
drive only to TOR.


One never knows, tho...

Take care,

Chuck
On Feb 19, 2007, at 10:00 PM, Werner Fehlauer wrote:


Chuck - are you still driving East for ST?  I'm still not hearing many
comforting words from MBUSI in Vance in regard to a plant tour, but  
I won't

give up yet!

Werner


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Re: [MBZ] Reserve Fuel Can

2007-02-20 Thread Werner Fehlauer
Larry - the pictures sent by Howard in England show a fairly robust steel 
can, holding 7 liters of fuel.  I think it would be too dangerous with 
gasoline, but probably ok for Diesel, and it is pretty well protected inside 
the wheel rim.  Probably better than the external main tank!
I'd be more concerned about a leaking cap, as it would make a terrible mess 
to have a couple gallons of fuel sloshing around inside the spare tire 
hold-down!


Werner

- Original Message - 
From: Larry T [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Reserve Fuel Can



Hi Werner,
There's a photo in the eBay advert - item # 4427103012543053 from my 
earlier post -


it's an almost round/flat can which looks like ity would fit into the 
wheel well.  Wouldn't want that in the trunk during an accident - at least 
the gas tanks of most vehicles are enclosed in chassis members,


Later --





Re: [MBZ] Accents

2007-02-20 Thread Jim Cathey

That Linux keyboard input method also seems reasonable, as
does the Mac's.  Leave it to Winders to have the worst one!
After all, it's only been about 25 years!  Takes them awhile
to adopt improvements.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] OT - PCs and Macs (was) Accents

2007-02-20 Thread Jim Cathey
Jim - after more than 30 years of using PCs (starting with an 8080 in 
kit
form), I suppose I'm too old to switch to one of those 
Apple/Mac/whatever
boxes.  Even worked up a box with a 6502 processor (as used in the 
early
Apples) but on an S-100 bus, with a 300 baud modem using tape on the 
Kansas

City standard.  In those days memory was around $100 a K!


I sit here not five feet from my 1802 kit box, and its successor the
semi-kit 6502 OSI machine.  (Cassette for both, floppies later added
to the OSI.)  And _its_ successor, the 68000 S-100 system.  My first
hard disk, and the first to even need a 16-bit address bus.

What followed that?  Not a PC, I looked at one and walked away in
disgust.  I waited, and succumbed to an original Mac.  A NeXT followed
it, a variety of work-origined Unixey machines, and now a variety of
PPC Macs all running OSX.

I still have them all.  By the time I'm done with them they're
worth far more to me as mementos than as assets to be sold.

It's never too late to change, all you have to do is be
willing to make a real upgrade.  Not the same old SOS with
maybe a few more mega-whatevers to it.

Let us hope that Apple can survive long enough to get smug
and get their ass kicked by something that is new and truly
better.  It won't come out of the Wintel hegemony, I'll tell
you that.  Wherever it would come from, it would be good for
us all.  Competition is like that.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Reserve Fuel Can

2007-02-20 Thread Euan


Subject:
Re: [MBZ] Reserve Fuel Can
From:
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Date:
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To:
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the only time I have seen them were for certain older models and they 
were VERY expensive.  Did you get one for newer cars?


My 1985 (European) 300TD came with one. Whether the previous owner 
selected this as an option on his factory tick-sheet I don't know.

Which reminds me. It must just about be time to refresh the diesel.

Euan
CHCH
NZ


[MBZ] Water pump vent pipe

2007-02-20 Thread Peter Merle
Discovered that my 79 300D ( non turbo ) does not have the vent pipe
from water pump housing to head as it should have according to the parts
list. Could this explain erratic temperature fluctuations as I suspect
that air pockets are forming in the engine due to cavitaion or whatever.
Later Om617 ( +- 1983 's ) however did not require this vent pipe even
thogh pump  and housing remained the same - so I'm a bit puzzeled as to
weahter one actually does need this vent.

Anyone have any info on this matter?
Peter 



Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 15, Issue 70

2007-02-20 Thread Royce Engler
Hey Andrew,

Maybe you could route some of the power from that 3000TD back to the hatch
GRIN  For about a year and a half I used an auxiliary strut - piece of
1x2.

Royce Engler
1985 300TD Turbo 290K



-Original Message-
From: andrew strasfogel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 9:43 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 15, Issue 70


Enough of the bragging already!  I get bopped on the head every time
if I'm not careful... (on my third set of struts).

1983 ***3000***TD
280 K miles





Re: [MBZ] Compressor woes, post mortem.

2007-02-20 Thread Potter, Tom E
Royce,

I have occasionally run the heater coming to work and the A/C going
home.

Tom Potter (another Houstonian)

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To: Marshall Booth; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Compressor woes, post mortem.

Thanks, Marshall,

I don't usually have to worry about running the AC during the
winterhere
in Houston we have plenty of warm winter days  ;-)

Royce Engler
1985 300TD Turbo 290K

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Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 5:15 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Compressor woes, post mortem.


Royce Engler wrote:
 Well, my A/C compressor had well and truly killed itself.  Indy says
it
 appears to have gotten a slug of liquid.  He got the supplier to
warrant
it
 and covered a new dryer himself.  He thinks the cold weather caused
it...he
 put in an evaporator temperature sensor to shut down the compressor
when
 there is not enough heat transfer to change the freon from liquid to
gas.
 Also said I should run it on EC when it's cold out...We'll see...

Actually it's important that the AC compressor be turned on and run
every few weeks (for a few minutes) ALL winter. That prevents seal
hardening and greatly increases compressor life. It's not necessary for
the later systems (124/201, later 126) that use the Nippondenso
compressors that function whenever the system is in defrost (and the
temperature is in the correct range).

Marshall
--
Marshall Booth Ph.D.
Ass't Prof. (ret.)
Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine
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Re: [MBZ] MB Chrysler

2007-02-20 Thread Curt Raymond

I know I'm late to the party but compare the PT Cruiser to the Chevy HHR.
Imagine the talk at GM Hey that PT Cruiser is an ugly mother but they sell 
alot of 'em. Lets copy it.

-Curt

Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 07:08:03 -0700
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Hendrik told us:

The sooner Daimler-Benz gets rid of Chrysler, the better. I mean, that 
300C
would have to be the ugliest thing on the planet (it's like a shoebox 
on
wheels)

I think the PT Cruiser Convertable is uglier...with the top down, it 
looks 
like a claw foot bathtub on wheels.

Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 167K
'87 Acura Legend  182K
Litchfield Park, AZ
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Jim - sounds like you acquire obsolete treasures like many of us do.  So 
far I've managed to keep old computer stuff down to perhaps 8 cu. ft., which 
is a lot better than the ham radio gear, which still takes up well over 200 
cu. ft. - and that's after taking several very nice (in their day) Model 28 
TTY machines to the scrap yard, and finding a good home for an old Collins 
KWS-1, not to mention transformer and choke for a BC-610!
And from monitoring this list, some have the same evil penchant by 
accumulating lots of M-B cars and parts...
Life would be a lot simpler if I would just get up the courage and ambition 
to get rid of all that, instead of leaving it to someone else to throw out, 
eventually.

Werner

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 Jim - after more than 30 years of using PCs (starting with an 8080 in
 kit
 form), I suppose I'm too old to switch to one of those
 Apple/Mac/whatever
 boxes.  Even worked up a box with a 6502 processor (as used in the
 early
 Apples) but on an S-100 bus, with a 300 baud modem using tape on the
 Kansas
 City standard.  In those days memory was around $100 a K!

 I sit here not five feet from my 1802 kit box, and its successor the
 semi-kit 6502 OSI machine.  (Cassette for both, floppies later added
 to the OSI.)  And _its_ successor, the 68000 S-100 system.  My first
 hard disk, and the first to even need a 16-bit address bus.

 What followed that?  Not a PC, I looked at one and walked away in
 disgust.  I waited, and succumbed to an original Mac.  A NeXT followed
 it, a variety of work-origined Unixey machines, and now a variety of
 PPC Macs all running OSX.

 I still have them all.  By the time I'm done with them they're
 worth far more to me as mementos than as assets to be sold.

 It's never too late to change, all you have to do is be
 willing to make a real upgrade.  Not the same old SOS with
 maybe a few more mega-whatevers to it.

 Let us hope that Apple can survive long enough to get smug
 and get their ass kicked by something that is new and truly
 better.  It won't come out of the Wintel hegemony, I'll tell
 you that.  Wherever it 

Re: [MBZ] Today's Puzzler

2007-02-20 Thread Curt Raymond

My '85 190D is similar. I'd thought(or rather Marshall speculated) the problem 
was the vacuum actuated idle controller which would have been negatively 
effected by a failing vacuum pump.
I'd also wondered if the plugged fuel tank vent might cause it. Now I know that 
both of those theories were wrong...
When I called Rusty (well Tom sold me the stuff to give proper credit) I 
thought to buy new glow plugs too. Those will go in when the cold breaks.

-Curt

Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 11:33:26 -0500
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On my 1983 300TD I can start it as Marshal and Mercedes advise, but it 
dies
almost immediately unless I depress the fuel pedal enough to keep the 
tach
at 750 rpm.  Hope to change the glow plugs once we thaw out a bit to 
see if
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In the 29 year history of Angelus Press (where I work), I am the first  to be 
getting a Mac. It arrives this week. Looking forward to it...so  thanks for the 
tips. Guess I'll be able to pitch my umlaut post-it note.
  
  Chris
  
  

Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Just type in alt 0-2-4-6 for ö; alt 
0-2-5-2 for ü, etc.  That will 
 get
 you past most German words used in these lists!

Should have bought a Mac: Umlaut-u (ü) is Alt-u-u, umlaut-anything is
alt-u-anything.  All the basic euro-accents are that way, associated
with their most common (in English) letter.  Cedilla is alt-c ç, the
'elan' accent alt-e-e é, circumflex is alt-i- î, Alt-a is å, alt-o is
ø, alt-n-n is ñ, etc.  (Oh, I forgot to do alt-u-o: ö.  Alt-u-i is ï.)

These ALL from memory, no stinking charts needed!  This keyboard
input method has been there since the beginning.  (To be fair, so
has the alt-numeric input of the PC, though I find the numbers
completely unmnemonic.)

For the less common ones I also have to use the chart application,
but you can go surprisingly far without it.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] nozzle observation

2007-02-20 Thread Glenn Brown

I've seen yellow, orange, and black coverings on diesel fuel handles.  Even
though I inform the attendants at the BP deli-mart that I'd like to put X$
on the diesel pump, I still have to give them a pump number even though
they've only got one.  What a place/time!

G. M. Brown
Rochester, NY


Re: [MBZ] nozzle observation

2007-02-20 Thread Darrell W. Sigmon

Glenn, things will change when you move to NC..

DWS

Glenn Brown wrote:

I've seen yellow, orange, and black coverings on diesel fuel handles.  Even
though I inform the attendants at the BP deli-mart that I'd like to put X$
on the diesel pump, I still have to give them a pump number even though
they've only got one.  What a place/time!

G. M. Brown
Rochester, NY
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Re: [MBZ] Today's Puzzler

2007-02-20 Thread andrew strasfogel

Let us know whether this helps, by all means.

On 2/20/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



My '85 190D is similar. I'd thought(or rather Marshall speculated) the
problem was the vacuum actuated idle controller which would have been
negatively effected by a failing vacuum pump.
I'd also wondered if the plugged fuel tank vent might cause it. Now I know
that both of those theories were wrong...
When I called Rusty (well Tom sold me the stuff to give proper credit) I
thought to buy new glow plugs too. Those will go in when the cold breaks.

-Curt

Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 11:33:26 -0500
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Today's Puzzler
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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On my 1983 300TD I can start it as Marshal and Mercedes advise, but it
dies
almost immediately unless I depress the fuel pedal enough to keep the
tach
at 750 rpm.  Hope to change the glow plugs once we thaw out a bit to
see if
that solves the problem.


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Re: [MBZ] Water pump vent pipe

2007-02-20 Thread Potter, Tom E
My '81 300D had the U-shaped vent pipe. 

Tom Potter

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Subject: [MBZ] Water pump vent pipe

Discovered that my 79 300D ( non turbo ) does not have the vent pipe
from water pump housing to head as it should have according to the parts
list. Could this explain erratic temperature fluctuations as I suspect
that air pockets are forming in the engine due to cavitaion or whatever.
Later Om617 ( +- 1983 's ) however did not require this vent pipe even
thogh pump  and housing remained the same - so I'm a bit puzzeled as to
weahter one actually does need this vent.

Anyone have any info on this matter?
Peter 

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Re: [MBZ] OT - PCs and Macs (was) Accents

2007-02-20 Thread Jim Cathey
Jim - sounds like you acquire obsolete treasures like many of us do. 
 So
far I've managed to keep old computer stuff down to perhaps 8 cu. ft., 
which
is a lot better than the ham radio gear, which still takes up well 
over 200
cu. ft. - and that's after taking several very nice (in their day) 
Model 28
TTY machines to the scrap yard, and finding a good home for an old 
Collins


In my collection is a TTY 40 chain printer.  Along with three Mac
Portables, several 'Bump Macs', including an SE/30.  (I last used
it a couple of jobs ago.  I had it on my desk for simple drawing
'cause I only needed what MacDraw would do, yet the only offering
from the co. was Visio.  Huge package, and non-intuitive I thought.
I'd just do it in MD and paste it into Word.  From there I could
transfer the file and paste it out of one Word doc into another.)
I also intermittently use the IIci, which is a nice little machine.
I have a copy of DesignWorks for it, that may be what I use to do
some more house what-if's.  That copy of DW refuses to run under
emulation, and the demo copies that are native are quite restricted
and can't open the basal house drawing I already made.  The Portables
are what I run my home finances on.  Instant-on, no waiting.  (Static
RAM, there is no OFF, only Sleep.  And access to my finances back
to the beginning.)  So many such things at my house are not
entirely obsolete at all.  (But could be made so, were it
necessary.)  My boy, for example, has his own computers: a Grid 3
and a Mac Minus running KidPix.

I have it bad, but of late I've really been trying to control
the acquisition phase.  Bringing in a 40kW Kohler and the 25kW
MD-3 really did soak up some space, however!  Anything that can
sit outside in the woods is no problem, but not very much that is
interesting can really tolerate that.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] OT - PCs and Macs (was) Accents

2007-02-20 Thread Ed Booher

On 2/20/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

disgust.  I waited, and succumbed to an original Mac.  A NeXT followed



I still have them all.  By the time I'm done with them they're

-- Jim


You still have a NeXT machine? Which model? May I visit and be
permitted to drool on it?

Ed

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Re: [MBZ] OT - PCs and Macs (was) Accents

2007-02-20 Thread Gary Hurst

does it do anything a mac doesn't do?

On 2/20/07, Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 2/20/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 disgust.  I waited, and succumbed to an original Mac.  A NeXT followed

 I still have them all.  By the time I'm done with them they're

 -- Jim

You still have a NeXT machine? Which model? May I visit and be
permitted to drool on it?

Ed

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Re: [MBZ] OM621 Questions

2007-02-20 Thread John W. Reames III
On Sat, 17 Feb 2007, Loren Faeth wrote:

 One way is to add some algicide/water dispersant, except for Herr Booth 
 whos cars never sit long enough to collect condensation.  We were, however 
 originally talking about a car that has set inactive for years.

I dunno how long this sat for before I bought it, but it sees 1k/wk, 
although it DOES sit more on weekends, usually with just above 3/4 tank 
fuel... I usually fill up in the morning on the way in...

-j.





Re: [MBZ] Head gasket fun

2007-02-20 Thread John W. Reames III
On Sun, 18 Feb 2007, Joe Knight wrote:

 Don't fret too much Peter.  I pulled the head from mine with a chain
 winch suspended from a bit less than 8' ceiling in a too small garage.
  Came out all right with the turbo  exhaust manifold attached even
 though I didn't have the winch very well positioned.  Kinda resist the
 temptation to put the head back on with those bits detached.  I did

I used a 2x4 with a helper as a lift to pull the head off a 617. I 
believe that I pulled off the manifolds first to make things lighter. I 
got some all-thread of the proper type and cut a couple of alignment pins 
out of it (make sure they are a couple inches longer than the longest head 
bolt!)  Oh yeah its a good opportunity to clean out your manifold!

The WORST part was threading the T/C oil feed line back into the oil 
filter housing!

-j.





Re: [MBZ] Accents

2007-02-20 Thread John W. Reames III
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007, Craig McCluskey wrote:
 Similar on Linux, with the left Winders key mapped to the Multi-key with
 the command,
   /usr/X11R6/bin/xmodmap -e 'keycode 115 = Multi_key'
 
 
 Type left Winders key, type the accent mark desired (double quote, , for
 umlaut) and type the letter to be accented. So, ü ä ö, and è é ê (that's
 left single quote, right single quote, and capital-6), and so forth, no
 table needed. ç Ç use comma.

Cool. Like the Compose key on the VT's, kinda sorta. I think the VT's 
used  for umlaut, ' for acute ` for grave, ^ for circumflex, ~ for tilde 
* for ring, c, for cedille, ae, oe, ss, !! for inverted , L- for pound, C- 
for cent , Y- for yen (= works for all the currencies),  and  +- 12 14 
(1/2,1/4)... I cant remember them all :).. maybe I should get out the old 
beast and fire it up ;) 
-j.
 
  




Re: [MBZ] OT - PCs and Macs (was) Accents

2007-02-20 Thread John W. Reames III
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007, Werner Fehlauer wrote:

 Jim - after more than 30 years of using PCs (starting with an 8080 in kit 
 form), I suppose I'm too old to switch to one of those Apple/Mac/whatever 
 boxes.  Even worked up a box with a 6502 processor (as used in the early 
 Apples) but on an S-100 bus, with a 300 baud modem using tape on the Kansas 
 City standard.  In those days memory was around $100 a K!
 Ditched that and went to a Z80 and dual 8 floppy drives. Finally sprung for 
 a complete PC when the company offered them on an employee plan. Have 
 probably gone through almost a dozen bigger and better ones over the 
 years.
 Always heard that they were the greatest for publication and artwork, but 
 also was turned off by the higher pricing and lack of being able to kloodge 
 up a system using various and sundry after market accessories.
 
 Werner

You can pick up used ones for cheap. 

I got a G4/dual 533 with half a gig ram for $100. Got an original Apple 
studio LCD (17) for $180 (ebay), a dvd-dl burner for $30 (other world 
computing), a 120GB HDD for $40 (computergeeks.com), and replaced the 
apple 1 button with my wife's 3 button original MS notebook optical 
mouse. Its pretty decent speed wise, and just works with everything I 
throw at it.

The BIGGEST PIT(F)A is Quicken-- PC and MAC are different design teams, 
different savefiles. You have to EXPORT the PC version, and you lose all 
your reapeat/memorized transactions when you import it.  Ditto going from 
MAC- PC. everything else is fine. iPhoto beats the crap out of other 
photo organizers (hands down). You can even get a ShutterFly plugin for 
it! (Export - shutterfly)

-j.





Re: [MBZ] Southern Treffen

2007-02-20 Thread John W. Reames III
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007, Chuck Landenberger wrote:

 Werner,
 
 I've been looking at the pocketbook...  Pondering Southern Treffen,  
 German Tour, Tri-O-Rama and there's StarTech tacked onto the Board  
 Meeting, which I will, of course, be attending..

Any news (pricing etc) on Star Tech? (besides the hotel)
-j.




Re: [MBZ] OT - PCs and Macs (was) Accents

2007-02-20 Thread John W. Reames III
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007, Jim Cathey wrote:
 I sit here not five feet from my 1802 kit box, and its successor the
 semi-kit 6502 OSI machine.  (Cassette for both, floppies later added
 to the OSI.)  And _its_ successor, the 68000 S-100 system.  My first
 hard disk, and the first to even need a 16-bit address bus.
 
 What followed that?  Not a PC, I looked at one and walked away in
 disgust.  I waited, and succumbed to an original Mac.  A NeXT followed
 it, a variety of work-origined Unixey machines, and now a variety of
 PPC Macs all running OSX.
 
 I still have them all.  By the time I'm done with them they're
 worth far more to me as mementos than as assets to be sold.

I got rid of a lot of my old stuff, but I still have a uVax 2100, 
DecStation 5000/260 (the R4400 one!), DEC 3000/400, Sparc 20... Using an 
old proliant 7000 as a server, have a REAL odd bird here thats acting as a 
floor weight; a ALR designed Unisys box- 6 processor Pentium Pro with 1MB 
cache CPU's (they are black aluminum, not ceramic). I also have a couple 
of PPro overdrives kicking around! (think 333MHz P2 Xeon for Socket 8)

-j.





Re: [MBZ] OT - PCs and Macs (was) Accents

2007-02-20 Thread John W. Reames III
On Tue, 20 Feb 2007, Gary Hurst wrote:

 does it do anything a mac doesn't do?
The cubes look REALLY cool. Where do you think ADC came from ;) (well the 
monitor was a bottle so it required an AC cord.) Te optical was like 
molasses fresh from the fridge, but they were a cool machine. The laser 
printer was a lobotomized LJ2/3 (Canon SX engine). With the straight paper 
path you could print on just about anything you could cram through the 
paper path!
-j.





Re: [MBZ] OT - PCs and Macs (was) Accents

2007-02-20 Thread Lee Einer

I am now working (temporarily) as Features Editor of a local paper. They
use mostly Mac G4s. IMO, the G4s suck like a rift in spacetime.

I use a Sony Mavica for photography which burns to a mini-cd. Works
fantastic whether you use Windoze or Linux. Apparently won't work on a
Mac because OSX can't read the CD. Most folks there keep a cd in their
drive bay so they have an icon which they can click and (hopefully)
eject their CDs, because once the CD is out and the icon leaves the
desktop it may or may not open the drive bay and may or may not read the
next CD.

Word on the Mac has the quaint habit of deleting files on the server
rather than saving when you attempt to save changes to an existing
document. There is no fix for this shite. I could go on.

So, all the time I was using PCs I was hearing about Macs and thinking
damn, they must be good if they cost so freakin' much but I bet I could
build something as good for less. I was wrong. I could build something
a helluva lot better for far less.

Lee

John W. Reames III wrote:
 On Mon, 19 Feb 2007, Werner Fehlauer wrote:
 
 Jim - after more than 30 years of using PCs (starting with an 8080 in kit 
 form), I suppose I'm too old to switch to one of those Apple/Mac/whatever 
 boxes.  Even worked up a box with a 6502 processor (as used in the early 
 Apples) but on an S-100 bus, with a 300 baud modem using tape on the Kansas 
 City standard.  In those days memory was around $100 a K!
 Ditched that and went to a Z80 and dual 8 floppy drives. Finally sprung for 
 a complete PC when the company offered them on an employee plan. Have 
 probably gone through almost a dozen bigger and better ones over the 
 years.
 Always heard that they were the greatest for publication and artwork, but 
 also was turned off by the higher pricing and lack of being able to kloodge 
 up a system using various and sundry after market accessories.

 Werner
 
 You can pick up used ones for cheap. 
 
 I got a G4/dual 533 with half a gig ram for $100. Got an original Apple 
 studio LCD (17) for $180 (ebay), a dvd-dl burner for $30 (other world 
 computing), a 120GB HDD for $40 (computergeeks.com), and replaced the 
 apple 1 button with my wife's 3 button original MS notebook optical 
 mouse. Its pretty decent speed wise, and just works with everything I 
 throw at it.
 
 The BIGGEST PIT(F)A is Quicken-- PC and MAC are different design teams, 
 different savefiles. You have to EXPORT the PC version, and you lose all 
 your reapeat/memorized transactions when you import it.  Ditto going from 
 MAC- PC. everything else is fine. iPhoto beats the crap out of other 
 photo organizers (hands down). You can even get a ShutterFly plugin for 
 it! (Export - shutterfly)
 
 -j.
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Today's Puzzler

2007-02-20 Thread Curt Raymond

Marshall doesn't seem to think it'll help so we'll see.
I think I'll replace 'em anyway since I don't know when they were replaced 
previously...

-Curt

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Let us know whether this helps, by all means.

On 2/20/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 My '85 190D is similar. I'd thought(or rather Marshall speculated) 
the
 problem was the vacuum actuated idle controller which would have been
 negatively effected by a failing vacuum pump.
 I'd also wondered if the plugged fuel tank vent might cause it. Now I 
know
 that both of those theories were wrong...
 When I called Rusty (well Tom sold me the stuff to give proper 
credit) I
 thought to buy new glow plugs too. Those will go in when the cold 
breaks.

 -Curt

 
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John - best to check the www.gws-mbca.org  web site - that's where all the 
official words will be posted, including registration forms.
Werner

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..

 Any news (pricing etc) on Star Tech? (besides the hotel)
 -j.




Re: [MBZ] nozzle observation

2007-02-20 Thread Marshall Booth

Darrell W. Sigmon wrote:

Glenn, things will change when you move to NC..

DWS


Think PINK!

Marshall
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Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine
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Re: [MBZ] Steel Wheels??

2007-02-20 Thread Marshall Booth

John Peterson wrote:

Does anyone know where I can get steel wheels for my 300D 2.5? (1991)

I have found 15x6 steel wheels- and 16 inch steel ones, but none 15x6.5 
which is the original size I have.


Here are some for sale- would anyone of these work?  I would like a set 
for snow tires.


http://theserviceadvisor.com/part/steelwheelbestmercedes/index.html


Some 6-7 years ago I bought NEW steel 15x6.5 ET49 wheels from Tire Rack. 
They cost $50 each then. You should be able to get cosmetically less 
than perfect alloys for that or less. That also saves you needing to 
have two different sets of lug bolts (the steel wheels use a different 
bolt).


Marshall
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Ass't Prof. (ret.)
Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine
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Re: [MBZ] Today's Puzzler

2007-02-20 Thread Marshall Booth

Curt Raymond wrote:

Marshall doesn't seem to think it'll help so we'll see.
I think I'll replace 'em anyway since I don't know when they were replaced 
previously...


Rarely helps if the plugs are glowing ABOUT the correct time (longer 
when cold). Nothing wrong with replacing older glow plugs, but unless 
there are symptoms that trigger the dash light to signal you, the plugs 
are rarely at fault.


Marshall
--
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Ass't Prof. (ret.)
Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine
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Re: [MBZ] Today's Puzzler

2007-02-20 Thread andrew strasfogel

I thought the dash light not extinguishing after a glow cycle meant a bad
GP relay, and failure to light at all meant a burnt-out glow plug fuse.  How
does light diagnose a problem with the glow plugs themselves?

On 2/20/07, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Curt Raymond wrote:
 Marshall doesn't seem to think it'll help so we'll see.
 I think I'll replace 'em anyway since I don't know when they were
replaced previously...

Rarely helps if the plugs are glowing ABOUT the correct time (longer
when cold). Nothing wrong with replacing older glow plugs, but unless
there are symptoms that trigger the dash light to signal you, the plugs
are rarely at fault.

Marshall
--
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Ass't Prof. (ret.)
Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine
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[MBZ] Bio Diesel recommendations

2007-02-20 Thread Werner Fehlauer
Just came from a John Deere Day session at the local dealership, and in 
their company video, came back with the following info in regard to usage of 
BioDiesel:


1.  John Deere only recommends B2 and B5 without qualifications, but also 
states that use of any higher concentration is OK as far as warranty is 
concerned.


2.  Use of any mix higher than B5 for the first time might lead to leakage 
as there is some cleaning action of the Bio product.  They recommend careful 
checking for a while when using a higher percentage blend.


3.  For equipment that may be not run for a while, say 6 months, they 
recommend filling the system with pure petroleum fuel, as the Bio mix will 
sequester more water.  That concern for water contamination also applies to 
storage facilities - be careful to keep as much moisture as possible out of 
the tank.


All of the above assumes BioDiesel fuel that conforms to the current 
standards - not home-brew fry oil leftovers.  It is also interesting that JD 
(and Cummins, etc) appears to be more tolerant of BioDiesel use than D-C (in 
Germany) was in 2005.  At that time, the D-C engineers from Stuttgart stated 
that they did not recommend the use of other than petroleum fuels.  Wonder 
if they have softened their attitudes yet?  (The Chrysler part of D-C has 
been shipping Jeep Diesels with a low percentage mix of BioDiesel for some 
time!)


Werner




Re: [MBZ] Today's Puzzler

2007-02-20 Thread Marshall Booth

andrew strasfogel wrote:

 I thought the dash light not extinguishing after a glow cycle meant a bad
GP relay, and failure to light at all meant a burnt-out glow plug fuse.  How
does light diagnose a problem with the glow plugs themselves?


The dash light is NOT a diagnostic, but only a warning that diagnosis is 
needed. Most diesel (except S class diesels and some '90s E class 
diesels) do NOT flash the dash light after the engine starts as a 
warning signal. The only signal that MOST 123/201 give is the dash lamp 
NOT illuminating or going out VERY quickly even in cold weather.


The dash lamp tells you NOTHING except that SOMETHING is wrong and 
diagnosis is required!


Marshall
--
Marshall Booth Ph.D.
Ass't Prof. (ret.)
Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine
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Re: [MBZ] Accents

2007-02-20 Thread Gary Hurst

windoze will always have the worst of everything.  that is what it means to
be a monopoly.  as long as almost every machine sold comes equipped with
windoze, it will be junk.  there is zero incentive to make a decent product.

this isn't meant as an attack on microsoft or another pro apple rant, but
rather is just a comment on the nature of power.  if things were reversed
and apple ruled the roost by definition, they'd be making junk and microsoft
would have the worthwhile os.


On 2/20/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


That Linux keyboard input method also seems reasonable, as
does the Mac's.  Leave it to Winders to have the worst one!
After all, it's only been about 25 years!  Takes them awhile
to adopt improvements.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] Reserve Fuel Can

2007-02-20 Thread Eric Anderton

Many people have mentioned to me dangers of the reserve fuel can,
without thinking about its location. Remember this can is designed to
fit INSIDE a full size spare tire. Imagine the force it would take in
an accident to travel through an inflated tire and steel rim!

Leaking, now that's another story.

Eric Anderton



Re: [MBZ] Reserve Fuel Can

2007-02-20 Thread Kevin
On Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 06:09:13PM -0500, Eric Anderton wrote:
 Many people have mentioned to me dangers of the reserve fuel can,
 without thinking about its location. Remember this can is designed to
 fit INSIDE a full size spare tire. Imagine the force it would take in
 an accident to travel through an inflated tire and steel rim!
 
 Leaking, now that's another story.

Seen the spare damaged on many wrecks in junkyards. All it takes is one
little curb to damage a wheel, so you might want to rethink that.



Re: [MBZ] OT - PCs and Macs

2007-02-20 Thread Allan Streib
Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 You still have a NeXT machine? Which model? May I visit and be
 permitted to drool on it?

I had a slab -- NeXTStation they called it.  68040 processor, 128MB
RAM, and a 400 MB hard drive -- was leaps ahead of any PC available
then, and did some things I've still never seen elsewhere.  Email with
sound and pictures, in 1990!  Anyone remember Lotus Improv?  There was
a drawing program called Diagram! by a company called LightHouse that
was really cool, and it basically was copied by Visio, later acquired
by Microsoft.

The the current OmniGraffle program for Mac OS X (itself a direct
descendant of the NEXTSTEP operating system) reminds me very much of
Diagram!

http://www.omnigroup.com/applications/omnigraffle/

I ended up selling it in 1998 or 1999.  Got decent money for it too,
in comparison to how most computer hardware holds value.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D
1966 230



Re: [MBZ] Southern Treffen

2007-02-20 Thread Chuck Landenberger

John,

Send an email to Scott Suits, MBCA Southeast Regional Director at :   
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


He'll get the info to you.

Take care,

Chuck
Phoenix AZ
On Feb 20, 2007, at 12:00 PM, John W. Reames III wrote:


On Mon, 19 Feb 2007, Chuck Landenberger wrote:


Werner,

I've been looking at the pocketbook...  Pondering Southern Treffen,
German Tour, Tri-O-Rama and there's StarTech tacked onto the Board
Meeting, which I will, of course, be attending..


Any news (pricing etc) on Star Tech? (besides the hotel)
-j.


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