Re: [MBZ] Winter Weather

2007-12-03 Thread Wonko the Sane
Yea-but 

Write back when it gets back to the teens. My 240D starts needing the long
start cycle at about +15F, like it has been almost all day. Takes about 10
seconds to fire off.

At -20F I pray frequently and make sure my big-arse jump pack is charged up,
especially if I can't plug it in at the office. During the prayer I thank
heaven for Mobil 1.

On Dec 3, 2007 8:24 PM, EDWARD DENNIS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
  Sunday at 43F and Monday at 26F I followed the letter of the start method
 and no problems.
  Tuesday I am getting the Valves adjusted.
  Ed in Chicago 28F


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Re: [MBZ] Winter Weather

2007-12-03 Thread Curt Raymond

Only if its leaking.
Bimby's got 'em for less than $10.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 18:12:14 -0800 (PST)
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Including a Seal replacement for the valve cover??
  Ed (rubber like gasket)

   
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Re: [MBZ] Pacific NW Gets Battered By Storms

2007-12-03 Thread Redghost
IT is a mess, but I live in town, so minimal damage as yet.  Spent  
the day wandering the neighborhood clearing storm drains so the  
rivers of water would go to the largest body of water nearby instead  
of basements.

The storm, or at least the low is heading east and should be making  
the midwest and Rockies a real fun place to be in the coming days.

clay

On 3 Dec 2007, at 18:17, Rick Knoble wrote:

 Hope all you guys in the Northwest are okay
 http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,314821,00.html

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[MBZ] USCG propoganda

2007-12-03 Thread Wonko the Sane
Some pretty cool wallpapers here.

http://uscg.mil/top/downloads/desktops.asp

D.


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Re: [MBZ] Pacific NW Gets Battered By Storms

2007-12-03 Thread Zeitgeist
We're flooding all over the place, 'round here in Oly-town.
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Re: [MBZ] marshall booth photo

2007-12-03 Thread Mitch Haley
Timothy Robinson wrote:
 
 I joined too late... so I only know from you guys the great person,
 Marshall, that I never met.
 
 The photo puts a face to a brilliant man who's knowledge you pass on to me.
 CHECK THE FUSES?

No, if they fuses are more than five years old, or if you don't know how
old the fuses are, REPLACE the fuses. See, the spirit of A. Marshall Booth
lives on. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT, HD again, has anybody ever jewed down a big box store?

2007-12-03 Thread Wonko the Sane
PBS, CNN and (at the moment) ESPN.

Of course, the wife is curled up in the spare bedroom / alternate tv room
watching CBS's brain dead comedies.

On Dec 3, 2007 9:54 AM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Wow, all this technology, and I still don't own a tv.

 Luther

 On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:49:48 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Well now I am probably going to have to upgrade my receiver also.  It
  has dolby digital 5.1, dts etc with optical imput.  Apparantly you need
  a receiver with the HDMI (or whatever its called) imputs to get the full
  HD Dolby whatever is on HD DVD's.  I guess that will be next on my list.
So far it looks great.  Even standard DVD's in the HD player look much
  better.  Or maybe its just because I was used to my old worn out TV.
  Saturday they come to install my dish network HD boxes.  I need to go to
  the store tomorrow and buy another optical cable for the sat box and an
  antenna to get over the air local HD channels.
 
 



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Re: [MBZ] Pacific NW Gets Battered By Storms

2007-12-03 Thread Redghost
There is some warm wet air around you waiting for this nice cold low  
pressure front?

clay

On 3 Dec 2007, at 18:36, Wonko the Sane wrote:

 That is scheduled to visit Iowa on Wednesday.

 On Dec 3, 2007 8:17 PM, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hope all you guys in the Northwest are okay
 http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,314821,00.html

 Rick Knoble
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Re: [MBZ] Pacific NW Gets Battered By Storms

2007-12-03 Thread Wonko the Sane
yep ... except it is cold wet air waiting for colder air.

On Dec 3, 2007 8:44 PM, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There is some warm wet air around you waiting for this nice cold low
 pressure front?

 clay

 On 3 Dec 2007, at 18:36, Wonko the Sane wrote:

  That is scheduled to visit Iowa on Wednesday.
 
  On Dec 3, 2007 8:17 PM, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hope all you guys in the Northwest are okay
  http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,314821,00.html
 
  Rick Knoble
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Re: [MBZ] Winter Weather

2007-12-03 Thread EDWARD DENNIS
Yes it seeps all sides
  Looks original
  Ed

Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
Only if its leaking.
Bimby's got 'em for less than $10.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 18:12:14 -0800 (PST)
From: EDWARD DENNIS 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Winter Weather
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
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Including a Seal replacement for the valve cover??
Ed (rubber like gasket)


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Re: [MBZ] No boost in '91 300d

2007-12-03 Thread OK Don
Or more max power? Use a manifold pressure gauge to see what you're
doing, back off the accelerator a bit if it gets over the magic
number? Or better yet - an EGT to watch the temps?

  You could just
 run a vacuum line straight to the turbo, but you would not have any
 overboost protection or anything.  Very dangerous.



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Re: [MBZ] marshall booth photo/banned

2007-12-03 Thread Mitch Haley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Marshall  was 100 percent about his factory knows best statement with
 one  exception. And that is when newer technology is an improvement. A
 good  example is Mobil 1 oil which did not exist when most our older
 Mercedes  were built.

I'm trying to remember when 15W50 came out. I know I was buying it
in 1987 or so, but I think it was fairly new then. 

 
 Marshall was exceptionally vocal on KN air filters being unnecessary  (and
 less efficient) because of the excess air flow designed into our  diesels.

He had a point, for two reasons. 
1. Marshall always said time yourself 0-62, then pull the air filter
and do it again. If there's no change, quit thinking about reducing
AF restriction to increase performance. 
2. Every objective test I've seen (usually in the 4x4 magazines) has the 
KN flowing more dirt than the factory filter element. 
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] marshall booth photo

2007-12-03 Thread Wonko the Sane
Ya know, for all we joke about the man (and he was indeed a living parody of
himself), he was really a valuable resource. I think he had a photographic
memory and retained much of what he read in the manuals. I should be so
lucky -- I stick post-it notes to my computer monitor at work on Friday
afternoons so I know what to do the following Monday morning.

Only once did he tell me he had to research the answer to a question, but he
fired the answer back in a very timely manner (after consulting the
manuals).

In one of my last off-list emails to him, not long before the end, I asked
if we could perhaps dump his brain to DVD. He seemed to get a chuckle out of
that and said that he'd unfortunately under-lived that technology but wished
he could.

Looking back at his obit, I realized that he worked at a theater place in DC
that I passed every day going to and from work. Wish I'd known then what I
knew now, for I could have easily pulled into the parking lot and had a chat
with him about the car I'd own a decade in the future.  Sorry, a Dr. Who
moment there.

D.

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 No, if they fuses are more than five years old, or if you don't know how
 old the fuses are, REPLACE the fuses. See, the spirit of A. Marshall Booth
 lives on.


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Re: [MBZ] Winter Weather

2007-12-03 Thread EDWARD DENNIS
Hi,
  Winter is very good to the CC because I hit the lever by accident and it 
worked good..
  Ed

Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Yea-but 

Write back when it gets back to the teens. My 240D starts needing the long
start cycle at about +15F, like it has been almost all day. Takes about 10
seconds to fire off.

At -20F I pray frequently and make sure my big-arse jump pack is charged up,
especially if I can't plug it in at the office. During the prayer I thank
heaven for Mobil 1.

On Dec 3, 2007 8:24 PM, EDWARD DENNIS wrote:

 Hi,
 Sunday at 43F and Monday at 26F I followed the letter of the start method
 and no problems.
 Tuesday I am getting the Valves adjusted.
 Ed in Chicago 28F


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Re: [MBZ] Sunil's 240D

2007-12-03 Thread Mitch Haley
Timothy Robinson wrote:
 
 hmmm...
 
 might not get randomly stopped in a speed trap for they'd think you
 couldn't afford the ticket. Remember how there was a study that the flashy
 RED car always got stopped first?

How about this guy, stopped for going 70 in a 65 zone in Texas? Probably
wanted to ticket him for impeding traffic. (actually, probably stopped
him for having no rear license plate visible) This isn't a W124, is it?
(actually, something about the roofline makes me think W201) Too bad
the sun isn't shining on the trunk badges. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RGe8fJ597w

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Re: [MBZ] Pacific NW Gets Battered By Storms

2007-12-03 Thread andrew strasfogel
I wonder whether Whistler-Blackcomb has broken the 10' snow barrier
already...

On Dec 3, 2007 10:07 PM, Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 We're flooding all over the place, 'round here in Oly-town.
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[MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices

2007-12-03 Thread Tom Hargrave


Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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The retail on-highway diesel prices for Monday December 24, 2007 will be
released on Wednesday December 26, 2007 by 5:00 P.M. (Eastern Standard
Time). The data will still represent Monday's prices. 

The retail on-highway diesel prices for Monday December 31, 2007 will be
released on Monday by 5:00 P.M. (Eastern Standard Time) as scheduled. 


   On-Highway Diesel Prices, by Week and PADD
(Self Service Cash Price in Dollars per Gallon, Including Taxes)

Diesel Prices Web URL:
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/wohdp/diesel.asp

   Average All Types

US
NATL   EASTNEWCENTLOWER   GULF   ROCKY   WEST
 DATE   AVGCOAST ENGLAND   ATL ATL   MIDWEST  COAST   MTN   COAST
CA

   PADD   PADDPADDPADDPADDPADD   PADDPADD
 I IA  IB  IC  II III IV  V
--  -  - ---  -   -  ---  -  -  -
-

071203  3.416  3.444  3.595   3.570   3.376   3.385   3.345  3.487  3.532
3.567
071126  3.444  3.453  3.590   3.574   3.389   3.423   3.360  3.527  3.587
3.620
071119  3.410  3.407  3.488   3.524   3.350   3.389   3.324  3.507  3.586
3.624
071112  3.425  3.415  3.484   3.523   3.362   3.403   3.347  3.532  3.608
3.663
071105  3.303  3.290  3.375   3.381   3.244   3.278   3.219  3.411  3.508
3.524
071029  3.157  3.148  3.250   3.251   3.095   3.122   3.062  3.281  3.394
3.406
071022  3.094  3.078  3.182   3.186   3.022   3.067   2.994  3.229  3.323
3.338
071015  3.039  3.023  3.122   3.125   2.970   3.025   2.941  3.169  3.229
3.249
071008  3.035  3.031  3.123   3.137   2.977   3.028   2.946  3.139  3.167
3.197
071001  3.048  3.052  3.117   3.141   3.008   3.061   2.975  3.100  3.090
3.143
070924  3.032  3.037  3.100   3.124   2.993   3.054   2.971  3.028  3.054
3.093
070917  2.964  2.961  3.025   3.054   2.916   2.984   2.903  2.972  2.998
3.023
070910  2.924  2.912  2.968   2.991   2.872   2.942   2.865  2.955  2.982
2.995
070903  2.893  2.867  2.915   2.934   2.835   2.910   2.836  2.939  2.972
2.985
070827  2.863  2.834  2.906   2.898   2.800   2.870   2.808  2.947  2.965
2.986
070820  2.868  2.842  2.915   2.905   2.808   2.864   2.807  2.977  2.996
3.016
070813  2.847  2.820  2.923   2.901   2.776   2.835   2.771  2.980  3.019
3.054
070806  2.898  2.866  2.955   2.945   2.825   2.887   2.824  3.012  3.077
3.140
070730  2.886  2.847  2.946   2.923   2.806   2.885   2.808  3.003  3.058
3.152
070723  2.889  2.860  2.950   2.945   2.815   2.882   2.815  2.988  3.061
3.158
070716  2.889  2.874  2.959   2.949   2.834   2.878   2.821  2.977  3.031
3.147
070709  2.849  2.853  2.942   2.936   2.810   2.822   2.785  2.955  2.987
3.090
070702  2.829  2.827  2.930   2.916   2.779   2.805   2.766  2.936  2.972
3.067
070625  2.835  2.832  2.920   2.915   2.789   2.806   2.780  2.936  2.985
3.073
070618  2.805  2.800  2.877   2.869   2.764   2.774   2.753  2.907  2.958
3.033
070611  2.792  2.789  2.882   2.873   2.744   2.753   2.742  2.937  2.941
2.997
070604  2.799  2.794  2.882   2.870   2.753   2.764   2.749  2.958  2.931
2.972
070528  2.817  2.811  2.888   2.882   2.773   2.783   2.776  2.980  2.939
2.975
070521  2.803  2.798  2.884   2.873   2.758   2.773   2.747  2.993  2.921
2.955
070514  2.773  2.758  2.866   2.843   2.711   2.740   2.713  2.998  2.919
2.952
070507  2.792  2.781  2.874   2.867   2.735   2.754   2.744  2.995  2.935
2.974
070430  2.811  2.800  2.871   2.873   2.762   2.775   2.766  2.988  2.952
2.987
070423  2.851  2.837  2.864   2.877   2.817   2.831   2.815  2.978  2.953
3.004
070416  2.877  2.862  2.871   2.885   2.852   2.864   2.849  2.981  2.956
3.015
070409  2.840  2.813  2.821   2.852   2.796   2.835   2.810  2.951  2.921
2.978
070402  2.790  2.764  2.786   2.820   2.739   2.780   2.766  2.884  2.885
2.939
070326  2.676  2.657  2.713   2.711   2.630   2.655   2.643  2.780  2.803
2.869
070319  2.681  2.661  2.722   2.719   2.631   

Re: [MBZ] OT, HD again, has anybody ever jewed down a big box store?

2007-12-03 Thread Luther
I have my computer or laptop for DVD's and the internet/radio/friends 
for sports
:)

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'87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case
'85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast
'82 300CD (170 kmi)
'82 300D  (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold
'85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine



Quoting Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 If not for being a movie nut, I don't think I would either!  No
 interest in broadcast TV at all if it weren't for SWMBO (who insisted
 on Dish Network at our new place---lots of HD channels that I have to
 admit are very pretty, if only they had something I wanted to watch). 

 On Dec 3, 2007 8:54 AM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 if not for being a sports fan, i don't think i'd want one either. 


 On Dec 3, 2007 10:54 AM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Wow, all this technology, and I still don't own a tv. 
 
  Luther



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Re: [MBZ] marshall booth photo/banned

2007-12-03 Thread Kevin Kraly
KN air filters being unnecessary  (and
less efficient) because of the excess air flow designed into our  diesels.

There was a KN air filter in my first '78 300D.  I pulled it out totally 
covered with oil.  I wasn't sure if it   was oil misted by blowby or 
overoiled in the first place, but I later found out that it was overoiling. 
Nothing came out of the engine during the oil cap test.  I took it to a shop 
and had the valves adjusted, and this was before I knew about warm versus 
cold engine valve adjustments.  They did it after we drove the car 10 miles 
to their shop which is not nearly ideal (found this out when it wouldn't 
start the minute the temps dipped into the 30's).

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 266Kmi, ursula who'll be going in for a set of new tires tomorrow 
since one of the El Cheapos put on by the PO went flat. 


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Re: [MBZ] Pacific NW Gets Battered By Storms

2007-12-03 Thread Kevin Kraly
We got battered with lots of heavy rain and high winds, but the 300SD is 
still in the driveway.  There was flooding all around us, and the high winds 
left quite a few coastal residents without power.  They got double the rain 
we got here in Hillsboro.

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
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Re: [MBZ] marshall booth photo

2007-12-03 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Mon, 03 Dec 2007 19:09:37 -0500, Timothy wrote:

 I joined too late... so I only know from you guys the great person,
 Marshall, that I never met.

I have 3984 email messages from Marshall to this list beginning
in 2002. I am in the process of figuring out how to convert this
pile of maildir messages into something manageable and usable.

--  Philip, a bit nutty about keeping old mail.

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[MBZ] Oh, all right then, it IS an oil thread

2007-12-03 Thread Euan
Hi folks

Down here in the Colonies, Mobil 1 synthetic oil is available (in 
exchange for body parts) but in a desperately poor range of options. So, 
I'm obliged to fall back on the MB specs data on the rear panels for 
guidance.

Should I be looking for oil meeting *229.1* or *229.3* criteria?

I have a 1985 300TD non-turbo (OM617.912)

Thanks

Euan

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Re: [MBZ] Winter Weather

2007-12-03 Thread Kevin Kraly
Yes it seeps all sides
  Looks original
  Ed

You're not going to know what to do with the gobs of extra power that'll be 
on tap once the valves are adjusted.  Mine were adjusted 20Kmi ago, so as 
soon as I dig out my wrenches, I'll be ready to do the job.

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
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Re: [MBZ] marshall booth photo

2007-12-03 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Mon, 3 Dec 2007 23:42:03 -0600, Fmiser wrote:

 It seems than at Mon, 03 Dec 2007 19:09:37 -0500, Timothy wrote:
 
  I joined too late... so I only know from you guys the great person,
  Marshall, that I never met.
 
 I have 3984 email messages from Marshall to this list beginning
 in 2002. I am in the process of figuring out how to convert this
 pile of maildir messages into something manageable and usable.

I think I got it. *smile*

I now have a web-style archive of the messages. It is not the
full threads, just the posts Marshall wrote - but he was pretty
good about including the useful parts of what he was answering
to.

The zip file is 13 Meg. The earliest message is from 2002 Feb 9.
There's a big gap in 2004, probably stuff I didn't keep. The most recent is 
2007 Oct 30.

To use this thing I created, just unzip the file. It will create a directory 
called marshall-messages. Point a web browser to the file inside called 
theads.html.

Now, because I am still using dialup, I am not interested in
transferring this file more than once. Is there one of you folks
who have space and bandwidth that can make this available? 

Kaleb, it should just drop into a website and work if you want
to host it that way.

-- Philip, pack rat

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Re: [MBZ] they made an arrest

2007-12-03 Thread Dave H...
Queens ???   :)

I lived in Flushing for a few years in the late 60's early 70s:)


--
From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 10:24 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] they made an arrest

 I am and have always been a city slicker.  when i was a kid, my parents 
 left
 me at home to go on a trip.  i decided this was a good opportunity to go
 camping.  so we took the bus to monticello new york and got a ride to 
 way
 out in the woods.

 this was not a great idea as we had no clue how to survive out in the 
 woods
 (which is a little different than surviving on the streets of queens).
 after 2 or 3 days of this, we were in sad shape.  a local found us, 
 however,
 and was most curious as to what we were doing.  when we told him our tale,
 he took pity and brought us home.  we were most grateful, explaining to 
 him
 how another night with the bears and raccoons and such would have been too
 much for us.  then he looked upon our pathetic selves and explained that
 the only animals you need be worried about are the 2 legged ones.

 the depravity of human beings and the thin veneer of civilized behavior
 never ceases to send a chill through me.  murder seems to lurk a bit too
 close beneath the skin.

 On Dec 2, 2007 9:57 PM, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kaleb,

 Thanks for sharing this with us.  You have every reason to be proud
 of Regina.

 Thoughts are with you and your family

 Be safe,

 Chuck
 Phoenix AZ
 On Dec 2, 2007, at 7:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

  Here is the story
 
  http://www.wlbz2.com/news/article.aspx?
  storyid=75795GID=mYR8y3PkIpd3tr97YNdzRhDG+bfs+aqHQve61xv6VCg%3D
 
  And the video from earlier today
 
  http://www.wlbz2.com/video/news/player.aspx?
  aid=28981sid=75795bw=hicat=3
 
  Apparently he wasnt locked up before, but about and hour after this
  video aired on the news in Maine, they found and arrested  him.
 
 
  --
  Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic,
91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0
  Euro,
84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
  http://www.okiebenz.com
 
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Re: [MBZ] Sunil's 240D

2007-12-03 Thread Sunil Hari
i didn't offer this POS to the list because i don't feel confident in
selling it to a lister (i.e. someone I know and might actually like).But
if anyone wants it, it's $600.  Engine and tranny are great, as is
suspension.  Body is shot.

On Dec 3, 2007 12:49 AM, Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Dec 2, 2007 11:55 PM, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  The price is dropping. He started at $1100.
  http://columbus.craigslist.org/car/496365085.html
 
  Rick Knoble
 

 Sunil is selling his 240D Manual? I'd be happy to take it off his hands!
 Too bad it's out of my price range.

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Re: [MBZ] they made an arrest

2007-12-03 Thread Gary Hurst
yes, queens, home of all culture.  where in flushing?

On Dec 3, 2007 5:55 AM, Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Queens ???   :)

 I lived in Flushing for a few years in the late 60's early 70s:)


 --
 From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 10:24 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] they made an arrest

  I am and have always been a city slicker.  when i was a kid, my parents
  left
  me at home to go on a trip.  i decided this was a good opportunity to
 go
  camping.  so we took the bus to monticello new york and got a ride to
  way
  out in the woods.
 
  this was not a great idea as we had no clue how to survive out in the
  woods
  (which is a little different than surviving on the streets of queens).
  after 2 or 3 days of this, we were in sad shape.  a local found us,
  however,
  and was most curious as to what we were doing.  when we told him our
 tale,
  he took pity and brought us home.  we were most grateful, explaining to
  him
  how another night with the bears and raccoons and such would have been
 too
  much for us.  then he looked upon our pathetic selves and explained that
  the only animals you need be worried about are the 2 legged ones.
 
  the depravity of human beings and the thin veneer of civilized behavior
  never ceases to send a chill through me.  murder seems to lurk a bit too
  close beneath the skin.
 
  On Dec 2, 2007 9:57 PM, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Kaleb,
 
  Thanks for sharing this with us.  You have every reason to be proud
  of Regina.
 
  Thoughts are with you and your family
 
  Be safe,
 
  Chuck
  Phoenix AZ
  On Dec 2, 2007, at 7:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 
   Here is the story
  
   http://www.wlbz2.com/news/article.aspx?
   storyid=75795GID=mYR8y3PkIpd3tr97YNdzRhDG+bfs+aqHQve61xv6VCg%3D
  
   And the video from earlier today
  
   http://www.wlbz2.com/video/news/player.aspx?
   aid=28981sid=75795bw=hicat=3
  
   Apparently he wasnt locked up before, but about and hour after this
   video aired on the news in Maine, they found and arrested  him.
  
  
   --
   Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic,
 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0
   Euro,
 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
   http://www.okiebenz.com
  
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Hijacked to exercise equipment use, or the lack thereof

2007-12-03 Thread Bill Ringgold
Personal experience - I ended up giving away a nice unit because I never used 
it - it used arms and legs [in ways not appropriate for me] and my darling wife 
banished it to the un-airconditioned back porch.  I finally bought a decent 
treadmill for our bedroom.  TV to watch, fans and AC in the room.  I walk 2 
miles six days a week with very few exceptions.  Don't buy on impulse, make 
sure the item is one you will actually use and is what you need.  Negotiate 
placement with family ahead of time.
BillR 
Jacksonville FL
1981 300SD  297k miles
Pro-Form 585QS treadmill from Craigslist - with too many features

-Original Message-
From: Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: 12/2/07 10:35 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, HD again, has anybody ever jewed down a big box store?


Hursty typed:

 bought my elliptical on similar terms

Is yours being used as intended or is it an elliptical towel rack/clothes
hanger like mine?

Bob R.
Still on the delardassification quest



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Re: [MBZ] they made an arrest

2007-12-03 Thread Dave H...
147-11A Roosevelt Ave.  Nice garden apartments with an underground parking 
garage.

Used to take the train to Manhattan everyday to work.  Right passed the 
Pennant winning Met's Shea Stadium:)

Would hang out, play ball etc.  at the old World's Fair grounds.

My son was born while we lived there and he was born in 72 so I know my 
time frame is about right.LOL


Dave H...

--
From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 6:53 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] they made an arrest

 yes, queens, home of all culture.  where in flushing?

 On Dec 3, 2007 5:55 AM, Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Queens ???   :)

 I lived in Flushing for a few years in the late 60's early 70s:)


 --
 From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 10:24 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] they made an arrest

  I am and have always been a city slicker.  when i was a kid, my parents
  left
  me at home to go on a trip.  i decided this was a good opportunity to
 go
  camping.  so we took the bus to monticello new york and got a ride to
  way
  out in the woods.
 
  this was not a great idea as we had no clue how to survive out in the
  woods
  (which is a little different than surviving on the streets of queens).
  after 2 or 3 days of this, we were in sad shape.  a local found us,
  however,
  and was most curious as to what we were doing.  when we told him our
 tale,
  he took pity and brought us home.  we were most grateful, explaining to
  him
  how another night with the bears and raccoons and such would have been
 too
  much for us.  then he looked upon our pathetic selves and explained 
  that
  the only animals you need be worried about are the 2 legged ones.
 
  the depravity of human beings and the thin veneer of civilized behavior
  never ceases to send a chill through me.  murder seems to lurk a bit 
  too
  close beneath the skin.
 
  On Dec 2, 2007 9:57 PM, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Kaleb,
 
  Thanks for sharing this with us.  You have every reason to be proud
  of Regina.
 
  Thoughts are with you and your family
 
  Be safe,
 
  Chuck
  Phoenix AZ
  On Dec 2, 2007, at 7:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 
   Here is the story
  
   http://www.wlbz2.com/news/article.aspx?
   storyid=75795GID=mYR8y3PkIpd3tr97YNdzRhDG+bfs+aqHQve61xv6VCg%3D
  
   And the video from earlier today
  
   http://www.wlbz2.com/video/news/player.aspx?
   aid=28981sid=75795bw=hicat=3
  
   Apparently he wasnt locked up before, but about and hour after this
   video aired on the news in Maine, they found and arrested  him.
  
  
   --
   Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic,
 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0
   Euro,
 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
   http://www.okiebenz.com
  
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Re: [MBZ] they made an arrest

2007-12-03 Thread Gary Hurst
if you went to main street and made a left and kept going a bit, you'd
eventually get to my neighborhood.  147-52 76rd.

there were 2 european sports cars in my neighborhood circa 1970, a porsche
914 and a jag xke.  the xke was owned by the family of one jack miller, who
is now, three and a half decades later, a bimby customer.  jack used to play
bass in a band with fellow parsons jr high student stanley eisen.  after
some time, jack figured out that rock n roll was a dead end and opened a
really decent grocery store (moo  brew) on main street.  it was the first
place i ever saw and ate a kiwi.

jack was replaced (he claims that he found the replacement) by the israeli
guy, chaim, and they achieved some success as wicked lester.  chaim became
gene and stanley eisen became paul stanley.  they added a fast fingered
guitar player from the bronx and a gene krupa schooled drummer from
brooklyn, put on crazy costumes and makeup and were soon one of the biggest
acts in the world.

and to complete the small world circle, my neighbor up the block here in
georgia, a mercedes veggie diesel guy,  worked as a lighting dude for kiss,
thereby connecting it all together.

On Dec 3, 2007 7:18 AM, Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 147-11A Roosevelt Ave.  Nice garden apartments with an underground parking
 garage.

 Used to take the train to Manhattan everyday to work.  Right passed the
 Pennant winning Met's Shea Stadium:)

 Would hang out, play ball etc.  at the old World's Fair grounds.

 My son was born while we lived there and he was born in 72 so I know my
 time frame is about right.LOL


 Dave H...

 --
 From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 6:53 AM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] they made an arrest

  yes, queens, home of all culture.  where in flushing?
 
  On Dec 3, 2007 5:55 AM, Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Queens ???   :)
 
  I lived in Flushing for a few years in the late 60's early 70s:)
 
 
  --
  From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 10:24 PM
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] they made an arrest
 
   I am and have always been a city slicker.  when i was a kid, my
 parents
   left
   me at home to go on a trip.  i decided this was a good opportunity to
  go
   camping.  so we took the bus to monticello new york and got a ride
 to
   way
   out in the woods.
  
   this was not a great idea as we had no clue how to survive out in the
   woods
   (which is a little different than surviving on the streets of
 queens).
   after 2 or 3 days of this, we were in sad shape.  a local found us,
   however,
   and was most curious as to what we were doing.  when we told him our
  tale,
   he took pity and brought us home.  we were most grateful, explaining
 to
   him
   how another night with the bears and raccoons and such would have
 been
  too
   much for us.  then he looked upon our pathetic selves and explained
   that
   the only animals you need be worried about are the 2 legged ones.
  
   the depravity of human beings and the thin veneer of civilized
 behavior
   never ceases to send a chill through me.  murder seems to lurk a bit
   too
   close beneath the skin.
  
   On Dec 2, 2007 9:57 PM, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Kaleb,
  
   Thanks for sharing this with us.  You have every reason to be proud
   of Regina.
  
   Thoughts are with you and your family
  
   Be safe,
  
   Chuck
   Phoenix AZ
   On Dec 2, 2007, at 7:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
  
Here is the story
   
http://www.wlbz2.com/news/article.aspx?
storyid=75795GID=mYR8y3PkIpd3tr97YNdzRhDG+bfs+aqHQve61xv6VCg%3D
   
And the video from earlier today
   
http://www.wlbz2.com/video/news/player.aspx?
aid=28981sid=75795bw=hicat=3
   
Apparently he wasnt locked up before, but about and hour after
 this
video aired on the news in Maine, they found and arrested  him.
   
   
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  94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic,
  91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0
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Re: [MBZ] they made an arrest

2007-12-03 Thread Dave H...
Your NY life was much more entertaining then mine.

I first worked as an electrician for M.Altman, Inc in the Bronx and then for 
Metropolitan Hospital on 1st in Manhattan.

My mother-in -law was a sculptor and my father in law a chemist at Kodak in 
Manhattan

My brother in law became a NY State Superior Court Judge.

I ate/drank frequently at an Irish pub (the name escapes me) at the corner 
of Roosevelt and Main, right near the subway entrance stairs.

Spent most of my free time in the village around Washington Park.

I seem to recall that XKE I drove either a Porsche or a Renault as my 
personal cars and a Chevy Vega wagon as a company car while working for M. 
Altman, Inc..

Now you live in GA and I in SC (they can call us damn Yankees all they want 
no one can ever say we are dumb Yanks  LOL)  Small world after all isn't it.


Dave H...
--
From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 7:38 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] they made an arrest

 if you went to main street and made a left and kept going a bit, you'd
 eventually get to my neighborhood.  147-52 76rd.

 there were 2 european sports cars in my neighborhood circa 1970, a porsche
 914 and a jag xke.  the xke was owned by the family of one jack miller, 
 who
 is now, three and a half decades later, a bimby customer.  jack used to 
 play
 bass in a band with fellow parsons jr high student stanley eisen.  after
 some time, jack figured out that rock n roll was a dead end and opened a
 really decent grocery store (moo  brew) on main street.  it was the first
 place i ever saw and ate a kiwi.

 jack was replaced (he claims that he found the replacement) by the 
 israeli
 guy, chaim, and they achieved some success as wicked lester.  chaim 
 became
 gene and stanley eisen became paul stanley.  they added a fast fingered
 guitar player from the bronx and a gene krupa schooled drummer from
 brooklyn, put on crazy costumes and makeup and were soon one of the 
 biggest
 acts in the world.

 and to complete the small world circle, my neighbor up the block here in
 georgia, a mercedes veggie diesel guy,  worked as a lighting dude for 
 kiss,
 thereby connecting it all together.

 On Dec 3, 2007 7:18 AM, Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 147-11A Roosevelt Ave.  Nice garden apartments with an underground 
 parking
 garage.

 Used to take the train to Manhattan everyday to work.  Right passed the
 Pennant winning Met's Shea Stadium:)

 Would hang out, play ball etc.  at the old World's Fair grounds.

 My son was born while we lived there and he was born in 72 so I know my
 time frame is about right.LOL


 Dave H...

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 From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 6:53 AM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] they made an arrest

  yes, queens, home of all culture.  where in flushing?
 
  On Dec 3, 2007 5:55 AM, Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Queens ???   :)
 
  I lived in Flushing for a few years in the late 60's early 70s:)
 
 
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  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] they made an arrest
 
   I am and have always been a city slicker.  when i was a kid, my
 parents
   left
   me at home to go on a trip.  i decided this was a good opportunity 
   to
  go
   camping.  so we took the bus to monticello new york and got a ride
 to
   way
   out in the woods.
  
   this was not a great idea as we had no clue how to survive out in 
   the
   woods
   (which is a little different than surviving on the streets of
 queens).
   after 2 or 3 days of this, we were in sad shape.  a local found us,
   however,
   and was most curious as to what we were doing.  when we told him our
  tale,
   he took pity and brought us home.  we were most grateful, explaining
 to
   him
   how another night with the bears and raccoons and such would have
 been
  too
   much for us.  then he looked upon our pathetic selves and explained
   that
   the only animals you need be worried about are the 2 legged ones.
  
   the depravity of human beings and the thin veneer of civilized
 behavior
   never ceases to send a chill through me.  murder seems to lurk a bit
   too
   close beneath the skin.
  
   On Dec 2, 2007 9:57 PM, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Kaleb,
  
   Thanks for sharing this with us.  You have every reason to be proud
   of Regina.
  
   Thoughts are with you and your family
  
   Be safe,
  
   Chuck
   Phoenix AZ
   On Dec 2, 2007, at 7:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
  
Here is the story
   
http://www.wlbz2.com/news/article.aspx?
storyid=75795GID=mYR8y3PkIpd3tr97YNdzRhDG+bfs+aqHQve61xv6VCg%3D
   
And the video from earlier 

Re: [MBZ] 124 wheels

2007-12-03 Thread Gary Thompson
No glove box. All you get for storage are map pockets on the doors and
the miniscule center console.


Gary Thompson
1995 E320


On 11/28/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Now I have another dumb question, as 87 is the
 newest car I have owned up til now.  Since there
 is a passenger side airbag, I assume that there
 is no glovebox in the 94 E320.  If there is,
 I  can't find a sign of how to open it.  Where
 did they put the owners manual?  Just tossing it
 in a door pocket seems crude compared to the
 effort that MB has typically put into the owner's
 packet of stuff.  I thought perhaps they had a
 rear deck compartment for it, like the
 compartments on the 126, but all I see is the first aid compartment.

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Re: [MBZ] they made an arrest

2007-12-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
Well she has 3 sisters up there, all of which are younger than her.  Well, 
its just 2 now, but you know what I mean.

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- Original Message - 
From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] they made an arrest


 The arrest is just the beginning. Now they have to build a case  
 prosecute.
 At the same time, the State needs to figure out what to do with the kids.

 I'd assume that your Wife  Her younger Sister are 2 of three children?
 Considering the situation, they will probably pressure your Wife or her
 Parents to take temporary custody, assuming they are still around.

 Thanks,
 Tom Hargrave
 www.kegkits.com
 256-656-1924
.com 


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Re: [MBZ] No boost in '91 300d

2007-12-03 Thread LarryT
Howdy -
My '91 300D 2.5T recently had a problem where the turbo did not work 
properly, if at all.  I had replaced the passenger side headlight and when 
moving things around to change the light I detached a small hose that comes 
off the vacuum pump and goes into a small rubber hose about 2 long.  It 
comes out of the pump at the 12 o'clock position and just pushes onto the 
fitting.  It may be partially hidden by the upper radiator hose.

Along with the Turbo problem, the transmission also shifted much more 
firmly than before.   It had always shifted very smoothly - it was hard to 
even notice when it shifted unless paying close attention.  With that vacuum 
hose disconnected it shifted with a firm jolt.

Once I located it fixing it was only a matter of seconds.

Good luck -

Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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- Original Message - 
From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 11:16 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] No boost in '91 300d


 First, the turbo is electronically controlled on that car, not
 mechanically.  If the EGR doesn't work correctly, the computer will
 dump the turbo.  Ditto for the intake resonance flaps, if they don't
 move properly, the computer dumps the boost.  If the vac lines are
 BBed, there's the main reason you don't have boost.

 Take the BBs out, check all the lines to make sure they hold vac, and
 verify that the switchover valves (transducers) for the flaps, the
 turbo, and the EGR are OK, and that the servos for the turbo wastegate
 actuator and the flaps are OK and working.  Verifty that the EGR valve
 operates correctly with vacuum, and remove the plate.

 Likely you will find a bad transducer or two (turbo and EGR, maybe the
 intake flap one) or a bad servo.

 You can only bypass the computer by replacing the turbo with a
 mechanically controlled one, and I'm not sure that will work well as
 the intake flaps still won't work right.

 Peter


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Re: [MBZ] OT, HD again, has anybody ever jewed down a big box store?

2007-12-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
Because it was an OT question I asked, as of yet, has not been answered but 
that is OK, I figured it out on my own.

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- Original Message - 
From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, HD again, has anybody ever jewed down a big box 
store?


 Yea-but ...

 Having been an ass('t) manager of a department store, I appreciate that 
 the
 important thing isn't discounts, it is daily sales. A lost sale is a lost
 sale. HQ doesn't care how it happens. All that shows up on the computer is
 that you sold the tv, not what it sold for.

 By the way, what the hell does this have to do with owning a Mercedes?
 :-)))

 D.
 


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Re: [MBZ] No boost in '91 300d

2007-12-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
Everything has to be working or the computer will put the car in limp home 
no boost mode.  With the egr etc blocked off, the computer knows this and 
will shut down the boost.  The only way to get the car running like it 
should is go to thru the 170 some page diagnostic procedure on the CD.  Have 
fun!!

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730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor

- Original Message - 
From: Tony Wirtel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 9:40 PM
Subject: [MBZ] No boost in '91 300d


 I've got the 300d home and found that the transmission needs a rebuild
 as expected, but also that I don't have boost.

 What I know:

 - Tracing vacuum diagrams I found that the EGR and recirc flap control
 have already been BB'ed at the vacuum source
 -  Turbo seems to turn freely.  Some oil in the intake but nothing big.
 - Putting pressure gauge in line between intake and ALDA see about 3 PSI, 
 max.
 - With pressure to ALDA on acceleration (5-10 PSI) there isn't a jump
 in power from expected fuel enrichment
 - Putting a line direct from intake to ALDA doesn't help (something
 that worked on another car)
 - Applying pressure to the ALDA shows minimal leakage
 - EGR has a plate covering the port
 - Turbo overpressure rod moves freely
 - Car doe not appear to have a cat/trap in the exhaust system
 - OVP is OK

 This car has a LOT more going on than the last car I had a no-boost
 problem with. On that, a 300sdl, jumping a failed switchover valve
 fixed it.  This car has at least 2 more vacuum/pressure control pots,
 a mass air flow sensor, and a boost sensor near the battery.  I'm not
 familiar with any of these, and the service CD's are at best spotty
 with coverage.

 My questions:

 - With the added systems is there an electrical element added to the
 injection pump that would prevent enrichment when jumpering the intake
 to ALDA?
 - Does anyone have a used Garrett TB025 turbo if mine proves bad
 - Anywhere else I should be looking?

 Thanks!

 Tony Wirtel

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Re: [MBZ] Sunil's 240D

2007-12-03 Thread Mitch Haley


Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:
 
 didnt you just buy that?  what getting rid of it so soon?

He bought it to resell, couldn't pass up a mechanically good $400 car.
If he'd flipped it for $1100, it would have been quite profitable. 

 
 ---
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 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 5:25 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sunil's 240D
 
 i didn't offer this POS to the list because i don't feel confident in
  selling it to a lister (i.e. someone I know and might actually like).
  But
  if anyone wants it, it's $600.  Engine and tranny are great, as is
  suspension.  Body is shot.
 
  On Dec 3, 2007 12:49 AM, Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Dec 2, 2007 11:55 PM, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   The price is dropping. He started at $1100.
   http://columbus.craigslist.org/car/496365085.html
  
   Rick Knoble
  
 
  Sunil is selling his 240D Manual? I'd be happy to take it off his hands!
  Too bad it's out of my price range.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Winter Weather

2007-12-03 Thread Curt Raymond

I'm sure you've gotten lots of advice on this one, but my $0.02.

#1 Your car should start fine at that temp. Does it turn over fast like it 
normally would or did the battery run down quickly?
One year I fought my 240D through almost a whole winter before I finally 
replaced the battery and brought it back to its old easy cold start self. This 
year with my 190D I replaced the battery the first time it let me down.

#2 0w30 is absolutely the wrong oil for your car. You've got 3 basic Mobil 1 
choices, 0w40, 15w50 and 5w40. I've listed those in my increasing order of 
preference. Meaning I like 5w40 the best and 0w40 the least.
0w40 will work but the engine will be louder and will probably leak worse. Your 
car WILL start easier with any of the Mobil 1 oils, even 15w50 so don't be 
afraid of using it. The big question in my mind is how cold do you expect it to 
get?
If you're looking at extended time below or around 0F I'd get the 5w40. If 
you're likely to only get into the teens then just stick with the block heater.

If you do go to Mobil 1 (please if you go synthetic go Mobil 1, Amsoil or 
Redline, ignore the false synthetics like Syntec) get a set of oil analysis 
kits from LarryT (www.youroil.net) so you'll know when to change it. In a 617 
unless you drive alot of highway miles I'd guess you're only going to get 
6,000-7,000 miles on a change.
Changing the oil earlier to get the dirt out sooner doesn't really make much 
sense, the dirt should be in the filter, thats where it belongs. There have 
been LOTS of studies on long oil changes, its really not something to be afraid 
of.


Anyway out of everything I'd be enclined to look at your battery before I did 
anything else.

-Curt


Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 17:21:48 -0800 (PST)
From: EDWARD DENNIS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Winter Weather
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Hi all,
  May I ask a Winter start question?
  '82 122k 300sd did not fire at 20 F Friday am. Put it on 110v block
 heater 1 hour and all is well. I did a set of proper glow plugs  and
 Saturday same story. No soot on the old ones?
   My friend Ben says Rotella 15-40 is the problem (fresh) and I need
 0-30 syn.
  Any argument? I always change oil at 2000-2500max miles with the idea
 to get the dirt out sooner. Rotalla T 15-40 does great in my suburban
 253k. Started on it's own.
  Ed in Chicago

   
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Re: [MBZ] Sunil's 240D

2007-12-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
Thats not a car to flip, thats a car to part out.

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- Original Message - 
From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sunil's 240D


 
 
 Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:
 
 didnt you just buy that?  what getting rid of it so soon?
 
 He bought it to resell, couldn't pass up a mechanically good $400 car.
 If he'd flipped it for $1100, it would have been quite profitable. 


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Re: [MBZ] Sunil's 240D

2007-12-03 Thread Tom Hargrave
I think he realizes that now.

Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924
 

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On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 9:13 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sunil's 240D

Thats not a car to flip, thats a car to part out.

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- Original Message - 
From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sunil's 240D


 
 
 Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:
 
 didnt you just buy that?  what getting rid of it so soon?
 
 He bought it to resell, couldn't pass up a mechanically good $400 car.
 If he'd flipped it for $1100, it would have been quite profitable. 


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Re: [MBZ] Winter Weather

2007-12-03 Thread Curt Raymond

WHAT? My Indy used to charge me $60 for my 240D, a bit more for my 300TD.
It only takes an hour or a little more

-Curt

Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 17:58:45 -0800 (PST)
From: EDWARD DENNIS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Winter Weather
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Hi all,
  43 F and the 300sd started and spins fast enough to need a valve
 adjustment; I'll Bet!
  Ben will do it for $110,00 on Tuesday. Ben said he normally charges
 $150.00.
I can change the front brake pads while he does his thing. Basic
 training in MB 617 valve train for me. The cost of heat and education!
   
  Dry day with 45 F clouds.
  Almost finished with the Christmas lights. (the wife is Italian 2
 gen.)
  Will update later in the week.
  Ed in Chicago

   
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Re: [MBZ] Sunil's 240D

2007-12-03 Thread Ed Booher
On Dec 3, 2007 6:25 AM, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i didn't offer this POS to the list because i don't feel confident in
 selling it to a lister (i.e. someone I know and might actually like).
  But
 if anyone wants it, it's $600.  Engine and tranny are great, as is
 suspension.  Body is shot.


I'd gladly pay you Wednesday for a hamb  err  Mercedes today.

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Re: [MBZ] Wrench size - Block heater

2007-12-03 Thread Curt Raymond

Apparently pretty common, happened on my 240D two years ago. Rusty has 
replacements for MB heaters.

-Curt

Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 18:10:23 -0800 (PST)
From: EDWARD DENNIS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wrench size - Block heater
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Hi,
  Just to share; I lost the block heater in my 1990 6.2 Suburban last
 winter and of course I did not want to fight with it,so... I bought a
 zero start heater hose type and after that, just to satisfy my mind I did
 a test on the cord I pulled off for neatness.  BAD CORD !! all 3 wires
 broken on a well secured cord I save old cords and replaced it easily
 with an old a/c cord.
  Works like new. 
  Ed in Chicago.

   
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Re: [MBZ] Sunil's 240D

2007-12-03 Thread dave walton
Is that condition of vehicle more likely to get a better price on eBay?

-Dave Walton


On Dec 3, 2007 10:13 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thats not a car to flip, thats a car to part out.

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 - Original Message -
 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 8:51 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sunil's 240D


 
 
  Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:
 
  didnt you just buy that?  what getting rid of it so soon?
 
  He bought it to resell, couldn't pass up a mechanically good $400 car.
  If he'd flipped it for $1100, it would have been quite profitable.



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[MBZ] Crack smoker

2007-12-03 Thread Curt Raymond
http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/car/496267936.html

Some rust?!? There are pieces of car missing!

-Curt

   
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[MBZ] You gotta admire

2007-12-03 Thread Curt Raymond
this guy's persistance
http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/car/495170281.html
This Suburban has been on Craig's list for 6 months or more. Its 
snowing/sleeting/raining and the spare engine is on ground next to it how 
good do you suppose that motor is?

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Re: [MBZ] Sunil's 240D - Craigs List question

2007-12-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
http://www.crazedlist.org/

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- Original Message - 
From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sunil's 240D - Craigs List question


 Is there any way to do a keyword search of all Craigs List nationwide?
 
 -Dave Walton
 
 On Dec 3, 2007 10:43 AM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Is that condition of vehicle more likely to get a better price on
  eBay?

 From what I see, everything gets a better price on eBay, but CL is
 nice because you're likely go get a local buyer who will show up with
 cash, not some distant internet presence who may or may not actually
 complete the transaction.

 BTW I read on another list where some guy in Canada got scammed out of
 $20,000 on an eBay car listing.  So, buyer beware -- personally if I
 were to pay that kind of money for a car, I'd insist on paying in
 person upon delivery of the vehicle, if the seller won't accept that
 you have to ask yourself why...

 Allan
 --
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 1966 230


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[MBZ] Sweet!

2007-12-03 Thread Curt Raymond
http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/car/496282457.html

Too much money for my blood but I really like the colors.

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Re: [MBZ] No boost in '91 300d

2007-12-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
Yes, it does, right at the turbo outlet before the crossover pipe
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- Original Message - 
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] No boost in '91 300d


 Peter Frederick wrote:
 Likely you will find a bad transducer or two (turbo and EGR, maybe the 
 intake flap one) or a bad servo.
 
 You can only bypass the computer by replacing the turbo with a 
 mechanically controlled one, and I'm not sure that will work well as 
 the intake flaps still won't work right.
 
 Aren't the intake flaps on another later model?  My '92 300D doesn't 
 seem to have any.  Maybe I'm blind though!
 
 John
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Sunil's 240D

2007-12-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
no

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- Original Message - 
From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sunil's 240D


 Is that condition of vehicle more likely to get a better price on eBay?

 -Dave Walton


 On Dec 3, 2007 10:13 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 Thats not a car to flip, thats a car to part out.

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 - Original Message -
 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 8:51 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sunil's 240D


 
 
  Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:
 
  didnt you just buy that?  what getting rid of it so soon?
 
  He bought it to resell, couldn't pass up a mechanically good $400 car.
  If he'd flipped it for $1100, it would have been quite profitable.



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Re: [MBZ] Sunil's 240D

2007-12-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
oh well, live and learn I guess.

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- Original Message - 
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Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sunil's 240D


I think he realizes that now.

 Thanks,
 Tom Hargrave
 www.kegkits.com
 256-656-1924


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 On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work
 Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 9:13 AM
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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sunil's 240D

 Thats not a car to flip, thats a car to part out.

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 - Original Message - 
 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 8:51 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sunil's 240D




 Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:

 didnt you just buy that?  what getting rid of it so soon?

 He bought it to resell, couldn't pass up a mechanically good $400 car.
 If he'd flipped it for $1100, it would have been quite profitable.


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Re: [MBZ] Sunil's 240D

2007-12-03 Thread Allan Streib
dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Is that condition of vehicle more likely to get a better price on
 eBay?

From what I see, everything gets a better price on eBay, but CL is
nice because you're likely go get a local buyer who will show up with
cash, not some distant internet presence who may or may not actually
complete the transaction.

BTW I read on another list where some guy in Canada got scammed out of
$20,000 on an eBay car listing.  So, buyer beware -- personally if I
were to pay that kind of money for a car, I'd insist on paying in
person upon delivery of the vehicle, if the seller won't accept that
you have to ask yourself why...

Allan
-- 
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1966 230

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Re: [MBZ] OT, HD again, has anybody ever jewed down a big box store?

2007-12-03 Thread Luther
Wow, all this technology, and I still don't own a tv.

Luther

On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:49:48 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well now I am probably going to have to upgrade my receiver also.  It
 has dolby digital 5.1, dts etc with optical imput.  Apparantly you need
 a receiver with the HDMI (or whatever its called) imputs to get the full
 HD Dolby whatever is on HD DVD's.  I guess that will be next on my list.
   So far it looks great.  Even standard DVD's in the HD player look much
 better.  Or maybe its just because I was used to my old worn out TV.
 Saturday they come to install my dish network HD boxes.  I need to go to
 the store tomorrow and buy another optical cable for the sat box and an
 antenna to get over the air local HD channels.





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Re: [MBZ] Sunil's 240D

2007-12-03 Thread Sunil Hari
i hate ebay for cars mainly because of scam potential.  Indeed, it's a car
to part out, but it kills me to part out a functional car.

On 12/3/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Is that condition of vehicle more likely to get a better price on
  eBay?

 From what I see, everything gets a better price on eBay, but CL is
 nice because you're likely go get a local buyer who will show up with
 cash, not some distant internet presence who may or may not actually
 complete the transaction.

 BTW I read on another list where some guy in Canada got scammed out of
 $20,000 on an eBay car listing.  So, buyer beware -- personally if I
 were to pay that kind of money for a car, I'd insist on paying in
 person upon delivery of the vehicle, if the seller won't accept that
 you have to ask yourself why...

 Allan
 --
 1983 300D
 1966 230

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Re: [MBZ] Sunil's 240D - Craigs List question

2007-12-03 Thread dave walton
Is there any way to do a keyword search of all Craigs List nationwide?

-Dave Walton

On Dec 3, 2007 10:43 AM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Is that condition of vehicle more likely to get a better price on
  eBay?

 From what I see, everything gets a better price on eBay, but CL is
 nice because you're likely go get a local buyer who will show up with
 cash, not some distant internet presence who may or may not actually
 complete the transaction.

 BTW I read on another list where some guy in Canada got scammed out of
 $20,000 on an eBay car listing.  So, buyer beware -- personally if I
 were to pay that kind of money for a car, I'd insist on paying in
 person upon delivery of the vehicle, if the seller won't accept that
 you have to ask yourself why...

 Allan
 --
 1983 300D
 1966 230


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Re: [MBZ] No boost in '91 300d

2007-12-03 Thread John Robbins
Peter Frederick wrote:
 Likely you will find a bad transducer or two (turbo and EGR, maybe the 
 intake flap one) or a bad servo.
 
 You can only bypass the computer by replacing the turbo with a 
 mechanically controlled one, and I'm not sure that will work well as 
 the intake flaps still won't work right.

Aren't the intake flaps on another later model?  My '92 300D doesn't 
seem to have any.  Maybe I'm blind though!

John


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Re: [MBZ] No boost in '91 300d

2007-12-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
You are an idiot, 2 different things :)

BTW I did get your email about the pump, I have not had time to do anything 
with parts lately. I will in the next couple of days.

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- Original Message - 
From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] No boost in '91 300d


 Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:
 Yes, it does, right at the turbo outlet before the crossover pipe

 Yep, I'm an idiot.  For some reason I was thinking the resonance flaps
 on the OM606...



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Re: [MBZ] Sunil's 240D

2007-12-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
I wish you were closer, I have a nice rust free 240D stick with maybe a bad 
cylinder

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From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sunil's 240D


i hate ebay for cars mainly because of scam potential.  Indeed, it's a car
 to part out, but it kills me to part out a functional car.

 On 12/3/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Is that condition of vehicle more likely to get a better price on
  eBay?

 From what I see, everything gets a better price on eBay, but CL is
 nice because you're likely go get a local buyer who will show up with
 cash, not some distant internet presence who may or may not actually
 complete the transaction.

 BTW I read on another list where some guy in Canada got scammed out of
 $20,000 on an eBay car listing.  So, buyer beware -- personally if I
 were to pay that kind of money for a car, I'd insist on paying in
 person upon delivery of the vehicle, if the seller won't accept that
 you have to ask yourself why...

 Allan
 --
 1983 300D
 1966 230

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Re: [MBZ] Oil clarification

2007-12-03 Thread John Robbins
Curt Raymond wrote:
 Unfortunately with no Marshall I have no idea how to get a line to
 the Mobil tribologists to find out if its appropriate for our cars.
 Marshall thought 15w50EP was fine and I suspect the new 15w50 is too
 but have no information to back that up.

I think Dave M. is now the Mobil 1 expert (he's recently been in touch 
with their people about their new ATF formula)...  I think he's unsubbed 
from this list quite a while ago, and now hangs out mostly in forums.

FWIW, I have heard him mention Mobil moving to use Group III base stock 
in some of their synthetic oils (I do not know which ones though, or if 
it is even an engine oil) to stay competitive.  However, I do know that 
Delvac 1 (AKA Turbo Diesel Truck) is a full Group IV synthetic.

John


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Re: [MBZ] No boost in '91 300d

2007-12-03 Thread Tony Wirtel
The only way to get the car running like it
 should is go to thru the 170 some page diagnostic procedure on the CD.  Have
 fun!!

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THAT is what I was afraid of!  Oh well, better me than the indy who
put that BB there in the first place.

I'd hoped that with bypassing EVERYTHING- going straight from the
intake manifold to the ALDA, given that the vacuum transducers had
already had vacuum supply cut off- it would work like an
olde-fashioned, purely mechanical system. With the looking I didn't
see how the electronics would still regulate fuel enrichment, unless
theres something integrated into the pump I can't see or elsewhere
that I just don't understand.

So tonight, a good read of the diagnostics in front of the football
game.  Too bad I don't have a fireplace anymore and I'm out of
scotch...

Tony Wirtel

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Re: [MBZ] No boost in '91 300d

2007-12-03 Thread John Robbins
Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:
 Yes, it does, right at the turbo outlet before the crossover pipe

Yep, I'm an idiot.  For some reason I was thinking the resonance flaps 
on the OM606...



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Re: [MBZ] No boost in '91 300d

2007-12-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
but its not quite that easy though. You have to fabricate some stuff to get 
the older style turbo to fit.  Somebody did it but I cant remember who.

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- Original Message - 
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Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] No boost in '91 300d


 Tony Wirtel wrote:
 With the looking I didn't see how the electronics would still
 regulate fuel enrichment, unless theres something integrated into the
 pump I can't see or elsewhere that I just don't understand.

 The electronics don't control the fuel enrichment.  The ALDA still does
 that in its good old fashioned mechanical way.  The problem is that the
 computer controls the boost...  If the computer kills the boost, then
 the ALDA won't increase the fuel output, and you have a slug.

 If you replaced the turbo with a non-computer controlled (standard
 pressure regulated wastegate) turbo, you could junk all the electronics.

 HTH!

 John



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Re: [MBZ] No boost in '91 300d

2007-12-03 Thread John Robbins
Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote:
 BTW I did get your email about the pump, I have not had time to do anything 
 with parts lately. I will in the next couple of days.

Totally understand.  You haven't exactly had a normal week!



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Re: [MBZ] Sunil's 240D - Craigs List question

2007-12-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
No, I dont think so.

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- Original Message - 
From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sunil's 240D - Craigs List question


 That's much better. I see one frame for each local Craigslist result.
 Any way to filter out the frames that return no data from the search?
 
 Thanks
 
 -Dave Walton


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Re: [MBZ] No boost in '91 300d

2007-12-03 Thread Tony Wirtel

 Tony,

 Marshall (MHRIP) would have told you to not assume the transmission is bad
 until you have the engine performing as designed.  The power produced by  the
 engine will affect the position of the throttle, hence the shifting firmness
 and also the shift timing.

 Some time in the 90s, it became a no-no to tamper with the EGR on the turbo
 diesels as the computer would know, and lock out the boost, or fuel,  somehow.
  Basically go into non boosted configuration.
 You should pin that down!

 Did you change all the fuel filters?  Also try driving without the  fuel
 filler cap on the tank, in case it is not venting properly.

 I have a very nice Garrett from an 87 603 engine, but it is marked TBO  359.
 Photos available.  $275, no core required.

 Regards,

 Jim  Friesen
 Phoenix AZ
 79 300SD, 264 K miles
 98 ML 320, 152 K  miles


Jim,

I've been playing with this car for about a week here and there, and
ya know after being on this and the R/E list for some time now I've
caught myself thinking a bunch of times don't assume; think it
through- what would Marshall say here with what I have (or DON'T have)
in front of me?

Last weekend when I was playing with this the thought came to mind
that Marshall would know what to do here, and I instinctively thought
to post and ask.  But since we haven't heard much, I assumed that he
was dealing with something more important with some sense that it
wasn't good.  But we have his example of being a teacher, of
methodically assessing and evaluating a problem to a logical
conclusion, at least most of the time.  And we will still miss him.

Anyway, on the transmission: There can be 4-5 seconds delay to get to
reverse, and even then I've sensed a slight slip once.  When in drive
I don't get the slamming I think I should with the vacuum
disconnected- shifts are firmer, but probably not as firm as they
should be.  Also the info I have is that at 305k miles the
transmission has never been out of the car.

Tony Wirtel

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Re: [MBZ] No boost in '91 300d

2007-12-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
No, its not fuel enrichment it adjusts, its the boost.  With no vacuum the 
turbo defaults to NO boost.  You have to have full vacuum to the turbo to 
get boost.  When everything is not like it should be, the turbo vents vacuum 
so you get no boost.  No boost equals no fuel enrichment.  You could just 
run a vacuum line straight to the turbo, but you would not have any 
overboost protection or anything.  Very dangerous.

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- Original Message - 
From: Tony Wirtel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] No boost in '91 300d


 The only way to get the car running like it
 should is go to thru the 170 some page diagnostic procedure on the CD. 
 Have
 fun!!

 ---
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 Cox Auto Trader
 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor

 THAT is what I was afraid of!  Oh well, better me than the indy who
 put that BB there in the first place.

 I'd hoped that with bypassing EVERYTHING- going straight from the
 intake manifold to the ALDA, given that the vacuum transducers had
 already had vacuum supply cut off- it would work like an
 olde-fashioned, purely mechanical system. With the looking I didn't
 see how the electronics would still regulate fuel enrichment, unless
 theres something integrated into the pump I can't see or elsewhere
 that I just don't understand.

 So tonight, a good read of the diagnostics in front of the football
 game.  Too bad I don't have a fireplace anymore and I'm out of
 scotch...

 Tony Wirtel

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Re: [MBZ] No boost in '91 300d

2007-12-03 Thread John Robbins
Tony Wirtel wrote:
 With the looking I didn't see how the electronics would still
 regulate fuel enrichment, unless theres something integrated into the
 pump I can't see or elsewhere that I just don't understand.

The electronics don't control the fuel enrichment.  The ALDA still does 
that in its good old fashioned mechanical way.  The problem is that the 
computer controls the boost...  If the computer kills the boost, then 
the ALDA won't increase the fuel output, and you have a slug.

If you replaced the turbo with a non-computer controlled (standard 
pressure regulated wastegate) turbo, you could junk all the electronics.

HTH!

John



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Re: [MBZ] Oil clarification

2007-12-03 Thread Allan Streib
John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I think Dave M. is now the Mobil 1 expert (he's recently been in
 touch with their people about their new ATF formula)...  I think
 he's unsubbed from this list quite a while ago, and now hangs out
 mostly in forums.

The site http://www.whnet.com/4x4/oil.html, which is what Marshall
always posted for reference, lists the following on the 229.1 approved
list:

  Mobil 1 with SuperSyn 15W-50 
  Mobil 1 TriSynthetic 5W-50, 15W-50, 0W-40, 5W-40 (100% synthetic) 

Looks like two versions of 15W-50 are approved, I wonder if this is
the old and the new formulation?

Allan
-- 
1983 300D
1966 230

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Re: [MBZ] Crack smoker

2007-12-03 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
My 79 240D automatic is about the same in terms of body rust--I will sell it
for $800. Will take pix for serious inquiries. 
Dwight

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1978 240D 4 speed. 215K miles.  
1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE)
1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles
Wickford, RI
-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Curt Raymond
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 11:04 AM
To: Diesel List
Subject: [MBZ] Crack smoker

http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/car/496267936.html

Some rust?!? There are pieces of car missing!

-Curt

   
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Re: [MBZ] Sunil's 240D - Craigs List question

2007-12-03 Thread dave walton
That's much better. I see one frame for each local Craigslist result.
Any way to filter out the frames that return no data from the search?

Thanks

-Dave Walton

On Dec 3, 2007 11:01 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.crazedlist.org/

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 - Original Message -
 From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 9:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sunil's 240D - Craigs List question


  Is there any way to do a keyword search of all Craigs List nationwide?
 
  -Dave Walton
 
  On Dec 3, 2007 10:43 AM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   Is that condition of vehicle more likely to get a better price on
   eBay?
 
  From what I see, everything gets a better price on eBay, but CL is
  nice because you're likely go get a local buyer who will show up with
  cash, not some distant internet presence who may or may not actually
  complete the transaction.
 
  BTW I read on another list where some guy in Canada got scammed out of
  $20,000 on an eBay car listing.  So, buyer beware -- personally if I
  were to pay that kind of money for a car, I'd insist on paying in
  person upon delivery of the vehicle, if the seller won't accept that
  you have to ask yourself why...
 
  Allan
  --
  1983 300D
  1966 230
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Sunil's 240D - Craigs List question

2007-12-03 Thread Timothy Robinson
Yes, Dave. That's how I located two of my cars last summer. I Googled
1985 300D Craigslist then sifted through the results.

 From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:53:40 -0500
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sunil's 240D - Craigs List question
 
 Is there any way to do a keyword search of all Craigs List nationwide?
 
 -Dave Walton
 
 On Dec 3, 2007 10:43 AM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Is that condition of vehicle more likely to get a better price on
 eBay?
 
 From what I see, everything gets a better price on eBay, but CL is
 nice because you're likely go get a local buyer who will show up with
 cash, not some distant internet presence who may or may not actually
 complete the transaction.
 
 BTW I read on another list where some guy in Canada got scammed out of
 $20,000 on an eBay car listing.  So, buyer beware -- personally if I
 were to pay that kind of money for a car, I'd insist on paying in
 person upon delivery of the vehicle, if the seller won't accept that
 you have to ask yourself why...
 
 Allan
 --
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 1966 230
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Oil clarification

2007-12-03 Thread Curt Raymond

The subject of Mobil 1 becoming a crappy semi-synthetic has come up on a couple 
groups I read (here too maybe 8 months ago?) so I emailed Mobil and did ALOT of 
searches.
Mobil of course says they are not and its actually in the FAQs on their 
website. I could find NO substantiated information anywhere on the web just I 
heard.
So if your mother's brother's cousin's hairdresser's mechanic told her then 
give us the whole scoop.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 10:01:08 -0600
From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil clarification
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Curt Raymond wrote:
 Unfortunately with no Marshall I have no idea how to get a line to
 the Mobil tribologists to find out if its appropriate for our cars.
 Marshall thought 15w50EP was fine and I suspect the new 15w50 is too
 but have no information to back that up.

I think Dave M. is now the Mobil 1 expert (he's recently been in touch 
with their people about their new ATF formula)...  I think he's
 unsubbed 
from this list quite a while ago, and now hangs out mostly in forums.

FWIW, I have heard him mention Mobil moving to use Group III base stock
 
in some of their synthetic oils (I do not know which ones though, or if
 
it is even an engine oil) to stay competitive.  However, I do know that
 
Delvac 1 (AKA Turbo Diesel Truck) is a full Group IV synthetic.

John

   
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Re: [MBZ] they made an arrest

2007-12-03 Thread Gary Hurst
yes, no shortage of irish pubs to eat and drink at in new york.  my dad
hated anything to do with alchohol, but he still visited the irish pubs for
corned beef.

i spent a fair amount of time around washington square park.  back in my
day, union square and tompkins square parks were too dangerous for anyone to
go too, but somehow washington square, while still chock full of crime, was
still considered ok.

remember the fancy town houses across the street on the north end of the
park with that ancient little alley behind them?  i always thought that
would be a pretty crappy place to live as you had to deal with the dregs
from the park right outside your door 24/7.  I shudder to think what those
houses are worth today.

what was the main street going to the east from there?  was it east 8th
street?  went to st mark's place.  i guess that was the main area of
manhattan i spent time at.  no irish bars with good food, but rather
ukranian bars with no food but good characters.



On Dec 3, 2007 8:14 AM, Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Your NY life was much more entertaining then mine.

 I first worked as an electrician for M.Altman, Inc in the Bronx and then
 for
 Metropolitan Hospital on 1st in Manhattan.

 My mother-in -law was a sculptor and my father in law a chemist at Kodak
 in
 Manhattan

 My brother in law became a NY State Superior Court Judge.

 I ate/drank frequently at an Irish pub (the name escapes me) at the corner
 of Roosevelt and Main, right near the subway entrance stairs.

 Spent most of my free time in the village around Washington Park.

 I seem to recall that XKE I drove either a Porsche or a Renault as my
 personal cars and a Chevy Vega wagon as a company car while working for M.
 Altman, Inc..

 Now you live in GA and I in SC (they can call us damn Yankees all they
 want
 no one can ever say we are dumb Yanks  LOL)  Small world after all isn't
 it.


 Dave H...
 --
 From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 7:38 AM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] they made an arrest

  if you went to main street and made a left and kept going a bit, you'd
  eventually get to my neighborhood.  147-52 76rd.
 
  there were 2 european sports cars in my neighborhood circa 1970, a
 porsche
  914 and a jag xke.  the xke was owned by the family of one jack miller,
  who
  is now, three and a half decades later, a bimby customer.  jack used to
  play
  bass in a band with fellow parsons jr high student stanley eisen.  after
  some time, jack figured out that rock n roll was a dead end and opened a
  really decent grocery store (moo  brew) on main street.  it was the
 first
  place i ever saw and ate a kiwi.
 
  jack was replaced (he claims that he found the replacement) by the
  israeli
  guy, chaim, and they achieved some success as wicked lester.  chaim
  became
  gene and stanley eisen became paul stanley.  they added a fast fingered
  guitar player from the bronx and a gene krupa schooled drummer from
  brooklyn, put on crazy costumes and makeup and were soon one of the
  biggest
  acts in the world.
 
  and to complete the small world circle, my neighbor up the block here in
  georgia, a mercedes veggie diesel guy,  worked as a lighting dude for
  kiss,
  thereby connecting it all together.
 
  On Dec 3, 2007 7:18 AM, Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  147-11A Roosevelt Ave.  Nice garden apartments with an underground
  parking
  garage.
 
  Used to take the train to Manhattan everyday to work.  Right passed the
  Pennant winning Met's Shea Stadium:)
 
  Would hang out, play ball etc.  at the old World's Fair grounds.
 
  My son was born while we lived there and he was born in 72 so I know
 my
  time frame is about right.LOL
 
 
  Dave H...
 
  --
  From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 6:53 AM
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] they made an arrest
 
   yes, queens, home of all culture.  where in flushing?
  
   On Dec 3, 2007 5:55 AM, Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Queens ???   :)
  
   I lived in Flushing for a few years in the late 60's early 70s:)
  
  
   --
   From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 10:24 PM
   To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
   Subject: Re: [MBZ] they made an arrest
  
I am and have always been a city slicker.  when i was a kid, my
  parents
left
me at home to go on a trip.  i decided this was a good opportunity
to
   go
camping.  so we took the bus to monticello new york and got a
 ride
  to
way
out in the woods.
   
this was not a great idea as we had no clue how to survive out in
the
woods
(which is a little different than surviving on the streets of
  queens).
after 2 or 3 days of 

Re: [MBZ] You gotta admire

2007-12-03 Thread Rich Thomas
Location: southern nh says it all

--R

Curt Raymond wrote:
 this guy's persistance
 http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/car/495170281.html
 This Suburban has been on Craig's list for 6 months or more. Its 
 snowing/sleeting/raining and the spare engine is on ground next to it how 
 good do you suppose that motor is?

 -Curt


   

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Re: [MBZ] Sunil's 240D

2007-12-03 Thread Ed Booher
On Dec 3, 2007 10:48 AM, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i hate ebay for cars mainly because of scam potential.  Indeed, it's a car
 to part out, but it kills me to part out a functional car.


How soon *must* it be gone? Is this sell a pressing issue for you, or if
it's still sitting there in 3 weeks you'll still be just wanting to get rid
of it and no hurry?

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Re: [MBZ] No boost in '91 300d

2007-12-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
Yes, its probably worn out.  The delay in reverse is the tale tale sign.

---
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Cox Auto Trader
730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor

- Original Message - 
From: Tony Wirtel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] No boost in '91 300d


 
 Tony,

 Marshall (MHRIP) would have told you to not assume the transmission is 
 bad
 until you have the engine performing as designed.  The power produced by 
 the
 engine will affect the position of the throttle, hence the shifting 
 firmness
 and also the shift timing.

 Some time in the 90s, it became a no-no to tamper with the EGR on the 
 turbo
 diesels as the computer would know, and lock out the boost, or fuel, 
 somehow.
  Basically go into non boosted configuration.
 You should pin that down!

 Did you change all the fuel filters?  Also try driving without the  fuel
 filler cap on the tank, in case it is not venting properly.

 I have a very nice Garrett from an 87 603 engine, but it is marked TBO 
 359.
 Photos available.  $275, no core required.

 Regards,

 Jim  Friesen
 Phoenix AZ
 79 300SD, 264 K miles
 98 ML 320, 152 K  miles


 Jim,

 I've been playing with this car for about a week here and there, and
 ya know after being on this and the R/E list for some time now I've
 caught myself thinking a bunch of times don't assume; think it
 through- what would Marshall say here with what I have (or DON'T have)
 in front of me?

 Last weekend when I was playing with this the thought came to mind
 that Marshall would know what to do here, and I instinctively thought
 to post and ask.  But since we haven't heard much, I assumed that he
 was dealing with something more important with some sense that it
 wasn't good.  But we have his example of being a teacher, of
 methodically assessing and evaluating a problem to a logical
 conclusion, at least most of the time.  And we will still miss him.

 Anyway, on the transmission: There can be 4-5 seconds delay to get to
 reverse, and even then I've sensed a slight slip once.  When in drive
 I don't get the slamming I think I should with the vacuum
 disconnected- shifts are firmer, but probably not as firm as they
 should be.  Also the info I have is that at 305k miles the
 transmission has never been out of the car.

 Tony Wirtel

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Re: [MBZ] No boost in '91 300d

2007-12-03 Thread Allan Streib
Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 No, its not fuel enrichment it adjusts, its the boost.  With no
 vacuum the turbo defaults to NO boost.  You have to have full vacuum
 to the turbo to get boost.  When everything is not like it should
 be, the turbo vents vacuum so you get no boost.  No boost equals no
 fuel enrichment.  You could just run a vacuum line straight to the
 turbo, but you would not have any overboost protection or anything.
 Very dangerous.

Your PISTONS will MELT.


-- 
1983 300D
1966 230

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Re: [MBZ] OT, HD again, has anybody ever jewed down a big box store?

2007-12-03 Thread Gary Hurst
if not for being a sports fan, i don't think i'd want one either.

On Dec 3, 2007 10:54 AM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Wow, all this technology, and I still don't own a tv.

 Luther

 On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 20:49:48 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  Well now I am probably going to have to upgrade my receiver also.  It
  has dolby digital 5.1, dts etc with optical imput.  Apparantly you need
  a receiver with the HDMI (or whatever its called) imputs to get the full
  HD Dolby whatever is on HD DVD's.  I guess that will be next on my list.
So far it looks great.  Even standard DVD's in the HD player look much
  better.  Or maybe its just because I was used to my old worn out TV.
  Saturday they come to install my dish network HD boxes.  I need to go to
  the store tomorrow and buy another optical cable for the sat box and an
  antenna to get over the air local HD channels.
 
 



 --
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 '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case
 '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi)
 '82 300CD (166 kmi)
 '82 300D  (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold
 '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine

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[MBZ] Michael Jackson's (The beer/ale guy) passing

2007-12-03 Thread Glenn Brown
I can't believe I'm this outa' touch . . . maybe I need to slow down in
retirement.  I went to the Michael Jackson beer/ale site and found this:

I can not believe that I have just learned of Mr. Jackson's passing! The
world has lost one of the great culinary ambassadors. The Beer Hunter taught
me that curiosity combined with humanity helps improve this world. My choice
to toast Michael? Aventinus, Duvel or Anchor Steam immediately come to mind.
THE BEER DOCTOR
*October 23, 2007 6:04 AM
*http://michaeljacksonthebeerhunter.blogspot.com/2007/09/add-your-memories.html#c6047016770774697952

G. M. Brown
Brevard, NC
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Re: [MBZ] Is this the right leatherique/right site?

2007-12-03 Thread Rusty Cullens
No. www.leatherique.com

Rusty Cullens
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To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 1:07 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Is this the right leatherique/right site?



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Re: [MBZ] OT, HD again, has anybody ever jewed down a big box store?

2007-12-03 Thread Alex Chamberlain
If not for being a movie nut, I don't think I would either!  No
interest in broadcast TV at all if it weren't for SWMBO (who insisted
on Dish Network at our new place---lots of HD channels that I have to
admit are very pretty, if only they had something I wanted to watch).

On Dec 3, 2007 8:54 AM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 if not for being a sports fan, i don't think i'd want one either.


 On Dec 3, 2007 10:54 AM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Wow, all this technology, and I still don't own a tv.
 
  Luther
 

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Re: [MBZ] Sunil's 240D

2007-12-03 Thread Sunil Hari
if a lister wants it, it'll just sit here (for the right price :) )

On 12/3/07, Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Dec 3, 2007 10:48 AM, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  i hate ebay for cars mainly because of scam potential.  Indeed, it's a
 car
  to part out, but it kills me to part out a functional car.
 
 
 How soon *must* it be gone? Is this sell a pressing issue for you, or if
 it's still sitting there in 3 weeks you'll still be just wanting to get
 rid
 of it and no hurry?

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Re: [MBZ] Sunil's 240D - Craigs List question

2007-12-03 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Dec 3, 2007 7:53 AM, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is there any way to do a keyword search of all Craigs List nationwide?


Google can do this:

300D | 300SD | 190D | 240D site:craigslist.org

The vertical bar is an OR operator.  The site keyword searches only
the sites with that domain name.  Notice that it's craigslist.org
not www.craigslist.org---the latter will search only the original
Craigslist site for San Francisco.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Is this the right leatherique/right site?

2007-12-03 Thread Christopher McCann
Glad I asked. Looked funny. I checked your site first (FYI), but it said you 
didn't have any. 

Chris



Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No. www.leatherique.com

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- Original Message - 
From: Christopher McCann 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 1:07 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Is this the right leatherique/right site?



 http://leatherique.org/preservation_products.htm;



Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri 
-1985 300SD, 368K km, Wulf
-1992 350 Ram Wagon, 58K miles, The Behemoth
-1975 240D manual, W115, Projekt-Wagen 1
-1980 300SD, W116, Projekt-Wagen 2
-1985 300Dt, W123, Projekt-Wagen 3
   
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Re: [MBZ] Is this the right leatherique/right site?

2007-12-03 Thread Rusty Cullens
We have it in stock.

Rusty Cullens
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- Original Message - 
From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is this the right leatherique/right site?


 Glad I asked. Looked funny. I checked your site first (FYI), but it said 
 you didn't have any.

 Chris



 Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No. www.leatherique.com

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 - Original Message - 
 From: Christopher McCann
 To:
 Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 1:07 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] Is this the right leatherique/right site?



 http://leatherique.org/preservation_products.htm;



 Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri
 -1985 300SD, 368K km, Wulf
 -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 58K miles, The Behemoth
 -1975 240D manual, W115, Projekt-Wagen 1
 -1980 300SD, W116, Projekt-Wagen 2
 -1985 300Dt, W123, Projekt-Wagen 3

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[MBZ] Is this the right leatherique/right site?

2007-12-03 Thread Christopher McCann

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Re: [MBZ] Is this the right leatherique/right site?

2007-12-03 Thread Mitch Haley


Rusty Cullens wrote:
 
 We have it in stock.

Check to see of leatherique.com has it on sale before you talk to Rusty.
I bought a pint of conditioner from Rusty for $26, then found out there
was a package special on a pint of cleaner and a pint of conditioner for
something like $35. I bet Rusty would have matched the $35 deal if I'd
known about it. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Is this the right leatherique/right site?

2007-12-03 Thread Rusty Cullens
Yes, I will always match their specials. I just don't keep up with them. 
Plus they charge way more than actual freight cost, be aware of that.


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- Original Message - 
From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is this the right leatherique/right site?




 Rusty Cullens wrote:

 We have it in stock.

 Check to see of leatherique.com has it on sale before you talk to Rusty.
 I bought a pint of conditioner from Rusty for $26, then found out there
 was a package special on a pint of cleaner and a pint of conditioner for
 something like $35. I bet Rusty would have matched the $35 deal if I'd
 known about it.

 Mitch.

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[MBZ] follow up to my pleasant retail experience

2007-12-03 Thread Gary Hurst
as you may recall, last thursday night i used poker codes to order speakers
and an ipod from onecall.com.  well, if they are trying to impress me, they
sure as hell have as the fedex guy just showed up at my door with them.
turns out to be a place in spokane called huppins.  from spokane to atlanta
with free shipping from 7pm on thursday until 2pm monday is pretty darn
impressive to me.  as these items were essentially gifts, i do not really
have any reason to comparison shop, so i really can't comment on their
prices, but the ordering process and delivery have been most impressive.
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Re: [MBZ] - Craigs List question

2007-12-03 Thread Timothy Robinson
Gee thanks for the search advice...as if I don't waste enough time at
computer!  :)

http://slo.craigslist.org/car/477224466.html

Here's a 1984 300D limousine for sale.

T

 From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 10:18:50 -0800
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sunil's 240D - Craigs List question
 
 On Dec 3, 2007 7:53 AM, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is there any way to do a keyword search of all Craigs List nationwide?
 
 
 Google can do this:
 
 300D | 300SD | 190D | 240D site:craigslist.org
 
 The vertical bar is an OR operator.  The site keyword searches only
 the sites with that domain name.  Notice that it's craigslist.org
 not www.craigslist.org---the latter will search only the original
 Craigslist site for San Francisco.
 
 Alex
 
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Re: [MBZ] Oil clarification

2007-12-03 Thread Curt Raymond

You assume that website is updated. I haven't seen with supersyn on a Mobil 1 
bottle in awhile, at least not for 15w50...

I've also NEVER seen the 5w50, there are lots of oils on that list that are not 
available in the US.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 11:13:58 -0500
From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil clarification
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I think Dave M. is now the Mobil 1 expert (he's recently been in
 touch with their people about their new ATF formula)...  I think
 he's unsubbed from this list quite a while ago, and now hangs out
 mostly in forums.

The site http://www.whnet.com/4x4/oil.html, which is what Marshall
always posted for reference, lists the following on the 229.1 approved
list:

  Mobil 1 with SuperSyn 15W-50 
  Mobil 1 TriSynthetic 5W-50, 15W-50, 0W-40, 5W-40 (100% synthetic) 

Looks like two versions of 15W-50 are approved, I wonder if this is
the old and the new formulation?

Allan
-- 
1983 300D
1966 230

   
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Re: [MBZ] Oil clarification

2007-12-03 Thread Mitch Haley


Curt Raymond wrote:
 
 You assume that website is updated. I haven't seen with supersyn on a Mobil 
 1 bottle in awhile, at least not for 15w50...

I believe with supersyn proceeded the TriSyn, which was the first one to 
blend in group III stock with the IV/V. I put my last 5 qts of supersyn 15W50
in the 16v last weekend. Price tag on the bottle was $18.88. I'd be happy if
I could get the TriSyn M1 for $19 a jug today. 

Mitch.

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[MBZ] buymbparts selling wheels!

2007-12-03 Thread Gary Hurst
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-12/1232495/wheel2.jpg

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-12/1232495/wheel1.jpg

i have to send links as kleb won't let me put the pictures into the body of
the email.  they are $199 for chrome and $159 for silver painted.  contact
rusty for details.
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Re: [MBZ] buymbparts selling wheels!

2007-12-03 Thread Mitch Haley
Gary Hurst wrote:
 contact rusty for details.

Aww, can't you give us diameter/width/offset/manufacturer?

The 15 hole look nice, but the chrome bundts are a bit garish.
I might put up with the chrome on the bundts if they match the
15 W116 6.9 wheels.

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Re: [MBZ] buymbparts selling wheels!

2007-12-03 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Free shipping?

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1978 240D 4 speed. 215K miles.  
1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE)
1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles
Wickford, RI-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Gary Hurst
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 3:36 PM
To: Banned List; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] buymbparts selling wheels!

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-12/1232495/wheel2.jpg

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-12/1232495/wheel1.jpg

i have to send links as kleb won't let me put the pictures into the body of
the email.  they are $199 for chrome and $159 for silver painted.  contact
rusty for details.
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Re: [MBZ] buymbparts selling wheels!

2007-12-03 Thread Gary Hurst
if i knew such things, i'd tell you


On Dec 3, 2007 3:46 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Gary Hurst wrote:
  contact rusty for details.

 Aww, can't you give us diameter/width/offset/manufacturer?

 The 15 hole look nice, but the chrome bundts are a bit garish.
 I might put up with the chrome on the bundts if they match the
 15 W116 6.9 wheels.

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Re: [MBZ] You gotta admire

2007-12-03 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Or drugs. 

Bissell Cove Quahog  Auto Salvage Co
Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
Wickford RI 02852

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Curt Raymond
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 11:06 AM
To: Diesel List
Subject: [MBZ] You gotta admire

this guy's persistance
http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/car/495170281.html
This Suburban has been on Craig's list for 6 months or more. Its
snowing/sleeting/raining and the spare engine is on ground next to it how
good do you suppose that motor is?

-Curt

   
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now.
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Re: [MBZ] buymbparts selling wheels!

2007-12-03 Thread Rusty Cullens
Bundts 6.5x14
15 Hole 7x15


Rusty Cullens
BuyMBparts, Inc.
Tel 1-800-741-5252
Fax   770-454-9745

- Original Message - 
From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] buymbparts selling wheels!


 Gary Hurst wrote:
 contact rusty for details.
 
 Aww, can't you give us diameter/width/offset/manufacturer?
 
 The 15 hole look nice, but the chrome bundts are a bit garish.
 I might put up with the chrome on the bundts if they match the
 15 W116 6.9 wheels.
 
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Re: [MBZ] buymbparts selling wheels!

2007-12-03 Thread Rusty Cullens
No, shipping extra.


Rusty Cullens
BuyMBparts, Inc.
Tel 1-800-741-5252
Fax   770-454-9745

- Original Message - 
From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] buymbparts selling wheels!


 Free shipping?

 Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
 1978 240D 4 speed. 215K miles.
 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE)
 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles
 Wickford, RI-Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Gary Hurst
 Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 3:36 PM
 To: Banned List; Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: [MBZ] buymbparts selling wheels!

 http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-12/1232495/wheel2.jpg

 http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-12/1232495/wheel1.jpg

 i have to send links as kleb won't let me put the pictures into the body 
 of
 the email.  they are $199 for chrome and $159 for silver painted.  contact
 rusty for details.
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Re: [MBZ] buymbparts selling wheels!

2007-12-03 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
OK_I will go to the mountain-I need to track down a back order from Das
Vaterland anyway.


Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1978 240D 4 speed. 215K miles.  
1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE)
1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles
Wickford, RI

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Gary Hurst
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 3:51 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] buymbparts selling wheels!

if i knew such things, i'd tell you


On Dec 3, 2007 3:46 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Gary Hurst wrote:
  contact rusty for details.

 Aww, can't you give us diameter/width/offset/manufacturer?

 The 15 hole look nice, but the chrome bundts are a bit garish.
 I might put up with the chrome on the bundts if they match the
 15 W116 6.9 wheels.

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