Re: [MBZ] The 560 SL
I am curious as to the fuel requirements of the SL series. I think everything since '86 (the 560SL and beyond) is premium only. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
I'm looking for tips and knowledge for getting my SDL high enough to RR the trans using floor/bottle jacks, jack stands, and ramps. Ideas? Any experience? TIA all. 450 SL tranny replacement. Had to get it scary high in the air in order to actually have room to work the tranny out from under. I think I had to jack it up in two steps, using big firewood rounds as spacers. Not my idea of great fun, but fairly stable if the wood is big enough. (And sawn square on the ends!) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bad vibration
Well this is OK Dons old SDL, he said somebody had it apart and didnt put it back right, cant remember all of what he told me. So by this year are the halves supposed to be marked? That would sure make life MUCH easier. As I mentioned before, by this time they were certainly marked at the factory. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bad vibration
Man that sure seems beyond my rigging skills A 2x6 and some C-clamps? Not rocket science! Try looking for misaligned marks first, though. :-) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
I'm thinking I need about 2' of clearance under the engine to squeeze the tranny in and out. Maybe those leftover 2x12s that I have will work when stacked and screwed together. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (176 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine Quoting Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm looking for tips and knowledge for getting my SDL high enough to RR the trans using floor/bottle jacks, jack stands, and ramps. Ideas? Any experience? TIA all. 450 SL tranny replacement. Had to get it scary high in the air in order to actually have room to work the tranny out from under. I think I had to jack it up in two steps, using big firewood rounds as spacers. Not my idea of great fun, but fairly stable if the wood is big enough. (And sawn square on the ends!) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT-Standalone hard drive
A major hard drive mfg is selling a standalone unit that supposedly works like an internal hard drive complete with its own OS. It requires two USB jacks and cords, it's fairly small and compact, has (160 gig capacity?), sells for about $150, and seems to be targetted at travelers. I noticed them at Walmart. Anyone tried them yet? Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
I'm thinking I'd put my ramps on doubled 2x12s to gain an extra 3, drive the front onto the ramps, then jack up the back and put it on a pair of those big truck jack stands. If the drive isn't concrete, I'd put the stands on 2x12 for stability. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=38847 http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=34924 http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=39178 http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=3185 http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=95640 Luther wrote: I'm thinking I need about 2' of clearance under the engine to squeeze the tranny in and out. Maybe those leftover 2x12s that I have will work when stacked and screwed together. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (176 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine Quoting Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm looking for tips and knowledge for getting my SDL high enough to RR the trans using floor/bottle jacks, jack stands, and ramps. Ideas? Any experience? TIA all. 450 SL tranny replacement. Had to get it scary high in the air in order to actually have room to work the tranny out from under. I think I had to jack it up in two steps, using big firewood rounds as spacers. Not my idea of great fun, but fairly stable if the wood is big enough. (And sawn square on the ends!) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
about 2' of clearance under the engine to squeeze the tranny An oft-overlooked factor is the height of the transmission jack, assuming you're using such. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
Have you ever RR'd a MB box? The box is a two pretty strong man operation to get in and out and the torque converter is usually stuck in there pretty tight. Hendrik who finds it easier to pull the engine and box out as a unit Luther wrote: I'm thinking I need about 2' of clearance under the engine to squeeze the tranny in and out. Maybe those leftover 2x12s that I have will work when stacked and screwed together. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bad vibration
yea, thats it. I knew the engine was replaced, but couldnt remember that was what lead to the driveshaft being seperated. Im going to get under there this weekend and see if I can line it up OK Don wrote: I told you that the engine was replaced by the PO - prior to me - and that it has had the vibration as long as I had it. I was considering using the two hose clamps balancing method - just move one relative to the other until it stops shaking. However, I just drove above or (sometimes) below the speed it vibrates at, rather than mess with it - must be part of getting older. On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 6:47 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: oh yea, I will inspect for sure. Im sure it just needs to have the marks lined up though. I cant for the life of me remember what OK Don told me about that -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] funny
yea Luther wrote: Funny how?? Flinstone mobile? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bad vibration
Kaleb knows this story, but for the benefit of those who don't I had a 250LWB, which is a 123 chassis that's been stretched (by the factory) for use as a taxi. This particular chassis, due to the length, has a three piece drive shaft, meaning two flex disk, two center bearings, and three sections. I don't recall what precipitated the problem, but it developed (or may have had it when I got it) vibration at certain speeds. I found a bum center bearing and carrier and replaced it. No joy. I replaced the second center bearing and carrier. Still no relief. I RR'ed it, checked the marks, reassembled, nada. This took place over the course of several months. By the final time I RR'ed the whole thing (I was getting really good at it!) I found what I suspected was a bad U joint. Knowing that the process for replacing MB U joints was a very specialized one, I went to my local drive shaft repair house and talked to them about it. Heck, there's nothing special about that - we do it all the time! They had to ship it to their Miami location, since the shop here in Tampa didn't have a balancer that could handle the length of my shaft. No additional charge to do this, just a couple of days and it was back. I get the shaft in pieces, load it up, take it home and lay it out on the garage floor for reassembly. Guess what? They didn't put match marks on the pieces. Damn. I called them up and was assured that it didn't matter, as they had balanced it as separate sections as well as a complete shaft. What? They also said that if I installed it and it still had vibration to bring it back, they would rebalance it, and send it back with match marks. That's ultimately what happened. A real PITA, but after nearly two years I didn't have this horrendous vibration around 10 mph that sounded like it was going to tear open the floor just above the second center bearing. I still have a box of the locknuts for the flex disk bolts as a reminder Dan OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I told you that the engine was replaced by the PO - prior to me - and that it has had the vibration as long as I had it. I was considering using the two hose clamps balancing method - just move one relative to the other until it stops shaking. However, I just drove above or (sometimes) below the speed it vibrates at, rather than mess with it - must be part of getting older. - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bad vibration
Do you recall the name of the drive shaft repair place in Tampa, Dan? I have a vibration at speeds over about 55mph on my '83 300D which I hope will be cured by replacing a bad axle and noisy differential. The differential I got locally was unbolted at the flex disc which looks newer than the one on the car. Are there any kind of alignment marks or special things to watch out for if I just bolt the drive shaft on to the flex disc that's already mounted on the differential? Thanks, Gerry '83 300D and 240D -- From: LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] I had a 250LWB, which is a 123 chassis that's been stretched (by the factory) for use as a taxi. This particular chassis, due to the length, has a three piece drive shaft, meaning two flex disk, two center bearings, and three sections. I don't recall what precipitated the problem, but it developed (or may have had it when I got it) vibration at certain speeds. I found a bum center bearing and carrier and replaced it. No joy. I replaced the second center bearing and carrier. Still no relief. I RR'ed it, checked the marks, reassembled, nada. This took place over the course of several months. By the final time I RR'ed the whole thing (I was getting really good at it!) I found what I suspected was a bad U joint. Knowing that the process for replacing MB U joints was a very specialized one, I went to my local drive shaft repair house and talked to them about it. Heck, there's nothing special about that - we do it all the time! They had to ship it to their Miami location, since the shop here in Tampa didn't have a balancer that could handle the length of my shaft. No additional charge to do this, just a couple of days and it was back. I get the shaft in pieces, load it up, take it home and lay it out on the garage floor for reassembly. Guess what? They didn't put match marks on the pieces. Damn. I called them up and was assured that it didn't matter, as they had balanced it as separate sections as well as a complete shaft. What? They also said that if I installed it and it still had vibration to bring it back, they would rebalance it, and send it back with match marks. That's ultimately what happened. A real PITA, but after nearly two years I didn't have this horrendous vibration around 10 mph that sounded like it was going to tear open the floor just above the second center bearing. I still have a box of the locknuts for the flex disk bolts as a reminder Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bad vibration
archer wrote: newer than the one on the car. Are there any kind of alignment marks or special things to watch out for if I just bolt the drive shaft on to the flex disc that's already mounted on the differential? Should just bolt up. Did your new diff come from a 82-85 turbo? If the donor was a '85, do you have the '85 speedometer/odometer to go with it? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] you can easily find numerous (maybe 1000 or so?)
Gary wrote: it's a little late once the car fails Actually, I am pretty sure their position will be that whatever problem you have may might not ever fail. In other words, it is working now, how do you know it will fail. I am not familiar with the way these fail, does it make noise first? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Steam engine hybrid
I think there were fairly advanced condensing steam cars in the 50's...something was mixed with the water or used in place of the water...alcohol, maybe? Chris MG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually there were quite a few condensing steam train engines starting from way back in the 1700 all the way to the end of the steam era. Many of them were used in service but none were really successful, not because of the condenser size but because of the amount of dirt stirred up by the train as it moved. This caused too much clogging of the condensers and the use was mostly discontinued unless there was an overriding problem with getting water as in some of the desert regions in Africa where there were some of these in use from the 50s till some time in the 60s. There were even some here in the states but they were more a demonstration then a real useful thing and I think they were scrapped after less then a year and the steel used for the war effort. Manfred Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:18:14 -0500 From: Peter Frederick The heat exchanger to recover the exhaust is going to be half the size of the car, at least. That's why no one ever made one, even for locomotives. Ships get to use the ocean, which works a whole lot better, and the condensers are still pretty large. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT-Standalone hard drive
archer wrote: A major hard drive mfg is selling a standalone unit that supposedly works like an internal hard drive complete with its own OS. It requires two USB jacks and cords, it's fairly small and compact, has (160 gig capacity?), sells for about $150, and seems to be targetted at travelers. I noticed them at Walmart. Anyone tried them yet? Sounds vaguely like a Network Area Storage (NAS). Do you have brand or model numbers? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] you can easily find numerous (maybe 1000 or so?)
generally just fails. one moment you have a car and the next moment you have a giant paperweight. and then the general says it is your fault and they never heard of it before. AND I'M NOT PLAYING WITH THESE FOOLS EVER AGAIN maybe a hyundai diesel on the horizon? On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary wrote: it's a little late once the car fails Actually, I am pretty sure their position will be that whatever problem you have may might not ever fail. In other words, it is working now, how do you know it will fail. I am not familiar with the way these fail, does it make noise first? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] My Kaleb car road test
I took my $500 1990 Buick LeSabre on a 400 mile trip yesterday. It performed very well. 26.7 mpg at 75-80 mph - 95% highway. The only thing weird was actually after I got back from the trip. My wife and I were going to dinner and as we were sitting at the stoplight it started missing. Just a little lurch every few seconds. But, it did not do it under load and it didn't do it on the whole trip. I just replaced the plugs (they were OLD) and wires this past weekend. Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify me. http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
Luther, Harbor Freight sells a tranny handling adapter (about $30) which replaces the 5 inch saddle on your standard floor jack.? If you are thinking one man job, this will make the difference.? Unfortunately, it adds about 5 inches to the height you need to clear the frame.?? Worth it tho.? It straps the tranny down and tilts to permit angling the trans into place.? I just resealed my son's Dodge Caravan, by myself, and I am 69.? I did saw off about a 3 inch strip on the adapter to let it fit more easily in the space available.? Mine is available if you live close. For height, in front, I filled two std cement blocks, two pices of 3/4 plywood?which then I set my jack stands on.? In the back, the two jackstands were sufficient. Letting the engine/ trans assembly drop in the rear (keeping close watch for firewall clearance and cable strain) will make it easier to get at those honkin' big hex bolts, best reached with about 20 inches of extentions and a 1/2 breaker bar.? Clean the hex sockets (10mm) thoroughly with a brake cleaner, you don't want to round one of these and have it slip!? When they break loose, you will swear you broke something!? Heavy gloves will cushion the hands but watch your elbow.? Finally, get as much of the trans fluid out before you start, as it will run out the tailshaft when you pull the driveshaft. Good luck! Jim in Phoenix I'm thinking I need about 2' of clearance under the engine to squeeze the tranny in and out. Maybe those leftover 2x12s that I have will work when stacked and screwed together. -Original Message- From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:18 am Subject: Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style I'm thinking I need about 2' of clearance under the engine to squeeze the tranny in and out. Maybe those leftover 2x12s that I have will work when stacked and screwed together. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (176 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine Quoting Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm looking for tips and knowledge for getting my SDL high enough to RR the trans using floor/bottle jacks, jack stands, and ramps. Ideas? Any experience? TIA all. 450 SL tranny replacement. Had to get it scary high in the air in order to actually have room to work the tranny out from under. I think I had to jack it up in two steps, using big firewood rounds as spacers. Not my idea of great fun, but fairly stable if the wood is big enough. (And sawn square on the ends!) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:00:04 -0400 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm thinking I'd put my ramps on doubled 2x12s to gain an extra 3, drive the front onto the ramps, then jack up the back and put it on a pair of those big truck jack stands. If the drive isn't concrete, I'd put the stands on 2x12 for stability. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=38847 http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=34924 http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=39178 http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=3185 http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=95640 Luther wrote: I'm thinking I need about 2' of clearance under the engine to squeeze the tranny in and out. Maybe those leftover 2x12s that I have will work when stacked and screwed together. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark Luther: I did my 300d (w124) w/the 6 ton stands (4 of them, under still sound lifting pads, front higher than rear) and the 800lb jack above. With the stands about 3/4 up and the jack down and plate tilted forward a bit to lower the bell housing I cleared by about 1/2 inch. Don't screw w/the scissors jack; not worth the hassles (800lb one much more stable and adjustability saves time and grief). can always sell the jack when done! Personally I don't like ramps. Would advise against wood as replacement for jack stands. If using wood at least bolt together- screws break WAY too easily. While you're in there- great time to replace the rear main seal. Are you putting in a reman/junkyard tranny or DIY rebuild? The rebuild isn't as hard as it might sound! Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
No need if you have a bit of heft in you. Just drop it on your chest and scoot out. Obviously have someone near by. Auto tranny isn't all that heavy (150lb? tops?) and the manuals are like 75lb or lighter. -Rolf Jim Cathey wrote: about 2' of clearance under the engine to squeeze the tranny An oft-overlooked factor is the height of the transmission jack, assuming you're using such. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Looking for the 15mm rear W123 sway bar used on police and spec edition (LWB etc).
Part number 123 326 46 65 If anyone has one email me. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bad vibration
These are the guys. They're more into truck and heavy equipment stuff, but they did a good job and worked with me to get it right. Florida Powertrain Hydraulics Inc 6501 Adamo Dr | Tampa, FL 33619 PH: (813) 623-6713 | FX: (813) 623-6713 archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you recall the name of the drive shaft repair place in Tampa, Dan? I have a vibration at speeds over about 55mph on my '83 300D which I hope will be cured by replacing a bad axle and noisy differential. The differential I got locally was unbolted at the flex disc which looks newer than the one on the car. Are there any kind of alignment marks or special things to watch out for if I just bolt the drive shaft on to the flex disc that's already mounted on the differential? Thanks, Gerry '83 300D and 240D -- From: LWB250 I had a 250LWB, which is a 123 chassis that's been stretched (by the factory) for use as a taxi. This particular chassis, due to the length, has a three piece drive shaft, meaning two flex disk, two center bearings, and three sections. I don't recall what precipitated the problem, but it developed (or may have had it when I got it) vibration at certain speeds. I found a bum center bearing and carrier and replaced it. No joy. I replaced the second center bearing and carrier. Still no relief. I RR'ed it, checked the marks, reassembled, nada. This took place over the course of several months. By the final time I RR'ed the whole thing (I was getting really good at it!) I found what I suspected was a bad U joint. Knowing that the process for replacing MB U joints was a very specialized one, I went to my local drive shaft repair house and talked to them about it. Heck, there's nothing special about that - we do it all the time! They had to ship it to their Miami location, since the shop here in Tampa didn't have a balancer that could handle the length of my shaft. No additional charge to do this, just a couple of days and it was back. I get the shaft in pieces, load it up, take it home and lay it out on the garage floor for reassembly. Guess what? They didn't put match marks on the pieces. Damn. I called them up and was assured that it didn't matter, as they had balanced it as separate sections as well as a complete shaft. What? They also said that if I installed it and it still had vibration to bring it back, they would rebalance it, and send it back with match marks. That's ultimately what happened. A real PITA, but after nearly two years I didn't have this horrendous vibration around 10 mph that sounded like it was going to tear open the floor just above the second center bearing. I still have a box of the locknuts for the flex disk bolts as a reminder Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
Sorry, I feel this advice is very poor to say the least. Drop 150 pounds on you chest is inviting cardiac tampanod S. Damn few of use could lift the transmission up to reinstall, maintain alignment, not hang it on the input seal/shaft. If renting a transmission jack is too much, ride a bike... Pete -- Original message -- From: Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] No need if you have a bit of heft in you. Just drop it on your chest and scoot out. Obviously have someone near by. Auto tranny isn't all that heavy (150lb? tops?) and the manuals are like 75lb or lighter. -Rolf Jim Cathey wrote: about 2' of clearance under the engine to squeeze the tranny An oft-overlooked factor is the height of the transmission jack, assuming you're using such. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
Rolf wrote: No need if you have a bit of heft in you. Just drop it on your chest and scoot out. Obviously have someone near by. When I worked at a Honda dealer, one of my coworkers showed up on Monday with a huge cast on his arm. It seems that Kelly had pulled the tranny (THM 350 or THM 400) on his Chevy pickup on Saturday. He braced his elbow against the driveway with his palm under the oil pan, grabbed the tailshaft with his right hand, and pulled the tranny off the locating dowels so he could catch it on his left hand. Shattered his left forearm like a toothpick. Scared me off from manual tranny catching for life. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OK Don has a new car
I will compromise in every area except the body. I don't do bodywork, nor am I planning on learning to. I consider bodywork an art form, and I am not an artistic person. I can RR bolt on stuff like bumpers and the like, but it if involves welding, bondo, paint, ect., it's off the list. Dan LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed wrote I like cars with no rust Your logic is impeccable! I feel the same way. Although I can weld well enough - not pretty but passable - I'd rather not take that route if it can be helped. I prefer to pull a fender if needed and paint the inside surfaces with POR15 or equivilent - that's *my* kind of restoration work. ;-) Course, I realize there are lots of cars out there with rust here and there that are significant cars which require the effort needed to rid it of rust. I'd just rather not be involved with those. Luckily, there are lots of talented people who will take a truck load of boxes filled with unknown parts and no rust-free sheetmetal larger than a hubcap and end up a couple of years later on the lawn at Pebble Beach reaching for the blue ribbon - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Ed Booher To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OK Don has a new car On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 10:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I get in cars all the time that have bad paint, bad interior, bad engine, but NO rust. Makes it hard to part them out knowing that they have no rust I *like* those kinds of cars. Rust is very bad, I don't know how to use a TIG welder ... or an Arc welder ... or a metal press really ... or a lathe . I can turn bolts though, and pretty sure I can paint well enough to keep rust from starting. So I like cars with no rust. EdB -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bad vibration
Gerry,? There are no match marks at the flex discs to worry about.? I am concerned that your noisy differential was not the differential, but merely a weak differential support mount.? Did the diff have lots of play in the gears that would make you suspect it is failing?? A bad mount will transmit a huge amount of gear noise!? Either way, be sure you replace your 25 year old mount with a new one.? Maybe try the new? mount with your old diff first---. Jim in Phoenix I have a vibration at speeds over about 55mph on my '83 300D which I hope will be cured by replacing a bad axle and noisy differential. The differential I got locally was unbolted at the flex disc which looks newer than the one on the car. Are there any kind of alignment marks or special things to watch out for if I just bolt the drive shaft on to the flex disc that's already mounted on the differential? Thanks, Gerry -Original Message- From: archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 6:16 am Subject: Re: [MBZ] bad vibration Do you recall the name of the drive shaft repair place in Tampa, Dan? I have a vibration at speeds over about 55mph on my '83 300D which I hope will be cured by replacing a bad axle and noisy differential. The differential I got locally was unbolted at the flex disc which looks newer than the one on the car. Are there any kind of alignment marks or special things to watch out for if I just bolt the drive shaft on to the flex disc that's already mounted on the differential? Thanks, Gerry '83 300D and 240D -- From: LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] I had a 250LWB, which is a 123 chassis that's been stretched (by the factory) for use as a taxi. This particular chassis, due to the length, has a three piece drive shaft, meaning two flex disk, two center bearings, and three sections. I don't recall what precipitated the problem, but it developed (or may have had it when I got it) vibration at certain speeds. I found a bum center bearing and carrier and replaced it. No joy. I replaced the second center bearing and carrier. Still no relief. I RR'ed it, checked the marks, reassembled, nada. This took place over the course of several months. By the final time I RR'ed the whole thing (I was getting really good at it!) I found what I suspected was a bad U joint. Knowing that the process for replacing MB U joints was a very specialized one, I went to my local drive shaft repair house and talked to them about it. Heck, there's nothing special about that - we do it all the time! They had to ship it to their Miami location, since the shop here in Tampa didn't have a balancer that could handle the length of my shaft. No additional charge to do this, just a couple of days and it was back. I get the shaft in pieces, load it up, take it home and lay it out on the garage floor for reassembly. Guess what? They didn't put match marks on the pieces. Damn. I called them up and was assured that it didn't matter, as they had balanced it as separate sections as well as a complete shaft. What? They also said that if I installed it and it still had vibration to bring it back, they would rebalance it, and send it back with match marks. That's ultimately what happened. A real PITA, but after nearly two years I didn't have this horrendous vibration around 10 mph that sounded like it was going to tear open the floor just above the second center bearing. I still have a box of the locknuts for the flex disk bolts as a reminder Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bad vibration
The only thing to watch for on the flex disc coupling at either end of the drive shaft is the direction that the disc is installed. There is an arrow on the disc that indicates the front of the vehicle, I believe. Do check the manual and confirm this, as it's been a while since I've done one. I do know that the orientation is important. I also believe there was a German word molded in the rubber that indicated direction as well. Maybe someone here with a better memory than I can chime in and clarify this. Dan archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you recall the name of the drive shaft repair place in Tampa, Dan? I have a vibration at speeds over about 55mph on my '83 300D which I hope will be cured by replacing a bad axle and noisy differential. The differential I got locally was unbolted at the flex disc which looks newer than the one on the car. Are there any kind of alignment marks or special things to watch out for if I just bolt the drive shaft on to the flex disc that's already mounted on the differential? Thanks, Gerry '83 300D and 240D - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] you can easily find numerous (maybe 1000 or so?)
Gary wrote: generally just fails. one moment you have a car and the next moment you have a giant paperweight. and then the general says it is your fault and they never heard of it before. AND I'M NOT PLAYING WITH THESE FOOLS EVER AGAIN Have you tried talking to the Zone Rep? If that doesn't help, talk to the district guy. Keep going up as far as you can go. It is worth a little time to complain to these people. If you make enough noise, you might get it fixed. Then, either drive the heck out of it or sell it with the new timing chain. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
No need if you have a bit of heft in you. Just drop it on your chest and scoot out. Obviously have someone near by. When I worked at a Honda dealer, one of my coworkers showed up on Monday with a huge cast on his arm. It seems that Kelly had pulled the tranny (THM 350 or THM 400) on his Chevy pickup on Saturday. He braced his elbow against the driveway with his palm under the oil pan, grabbed the tailshaft with his right hand, and pulled the tranny off the locating dowels so he could catch it on his left hand. Shattered his left forearm like a toothpick. Scared me off from manual tranny catching for life. I was able to bench press my Toyota manual trans-axle into place with some cursing ect. I was exercising and lifting weights at that time though. I would probably struggle more now. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OK Don has a new car
I consider bodywork an art form, and I am not an artistic person. ...if it involves welding, bondo, paint, ect., it's off the list. There's more to welding than making things (that) look good! Most of what I weld ends up looking like something the cat would want to bury. Pretty useful tool in the arsenal, though. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
Rick Knoble wrote: I was able to bench press my Toyota manual trans-axle into place with some cursing ect. I was exercising and lifting weights at that time though. I had no trouble with my 4sp Muncie in the Citation. I undid the cables, exhaust and wiring, unbolted the engine, unplugged the inner CV joints from the tranny, and yanked the power pack out the top. Standing next to the engine I just pulled the tranny off with both hands. Don't know what it weighted, I probably weighed 135 but I could curl 75lb about 20 reps back then. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
Harbor Freight sells a tranny handling adapter (about $30) That's what I have. which replaces the 5 inch saddle on your standard floor jack. In _their_ standard floor jack. I bought the adapter for my jack, only to find it wouldn't fit. So I went back and bought the matching jack too. (You can always use an extra jack, I've used the pair now for several years. Can jack up the entire side of a car at once, etc. Two cars can be operated on at once, etc.) Just be aware. No need if you have a bit of heft in you. Just drop it on your chest and scoot out. Obviously have someone near by. Auto tranny isn't all that heavy (150lb? tops?) and the manuals are like 75lb or lighter. Didn't work for me on the SL tranny, I'm not that beefy. I did end up bench-pressing the manual tranny back into place on the 190D. I think to get the auto out, since I didn't care about it, I lowered it on the jack and then dragged it off and onto the ground to drag it out from under the (too low) car. Scrape, bang, scrape. He braced his elbow against the driveway with his palm under the oil pan, grabbed the tailshaft with his right hand, and pulled the tranny off the locating dowels so he could catch it on his left hand. Shattered his left forearm like a toothpick. Ouch! You NEVER catch something like that where you don't have any room to travel. Just like you don't jump out of a tree and land with your knees locked. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style/OT trans lifting
In a message dated 4/30/2008 8:26:16 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No need if you have a bit of heft in you. Just drop it on your chest and scoot out. Obviously have someone near by. When I worked at a Honda dealer, one of my coworkers showed up on Monday with a huge cast on his arm. It seems that Kelly had pulled the tranny (THM 350 or THM 400) on his Chevy pickup on Saturday. He braced his elbow against the driveway with his palm under the oil pan, grabbed the tailshaft with his right hand, and pulled the tranny off the locating dowels so he could catch it on his left hand. Shattered his left forearm like a toothpick. Scared me off from manual tranny catching for life. I was able to bench press my Toyota manual trans-axle into place with some cursing ect. I was exercising and lifting weights at that time though. I would probably struggle more now. Rick Knoble Rick, Rolf, and all. When I was about 27, I put a 55 Olds 4 speed Hydramatic in my Corvette, for drag racing. I dug a hole in the dirt to fit my body, then slid the trans on my chest and boosted it in. It took about 3 trys! I think my gonads were gone for about 3 days! I later weighed one of these and with the fluid coupling, it was 225 pounds! Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 155 K miles **Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
Jim Cathey wrote: Ouch! You NEVER catch something like that where you don't have any room to travel. Just like you don't jump out of a tree and land with your knees locked. Catch may have been the wrong word. From what he said, his palm was firmly pressed against the tranny when he pulled it off the engine. I don't know if the tranny was heavy enough to telescope his arm or if his arm wasn't vertical and couldn't take the sideload. But just thinking about him in a cast from armpit to fingertips makes me shudder. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style/OT trans lifting
I dug a hole in the dirt to fit my body, then slid the trans on my chest and boosted it in. It took about 3 tries! I think my gonads were gone for about 3 days! I later weighed one...it was 225 pounds! Shouldn't have been any worse for you than an after-hours drunken rasslin' match with a fat chick from the bar, with _both_ of you less than pleased with your choice! :-) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style/OT trans lifting
LOL! Jim in Phoenix -Original Message- From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 9:05 am Subject: Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style/OT trans lifting I dug a hole in the dirt to fit my body, then slid the trans on my chest and boosted it in. It took about 3 tries! I think my gonads were gone for about 3 days! I later weighed one...it was 225 pounds! Shouldn't have been any worse for you than an after-hours drunken rasslin' match with a fat chick from the bar, with _both_ of you less than pleased with your choice! :-) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] you can easily find numerous (maybe 1000 or so?)
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 7:04 AM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: maybe a hyundai diesel on the horizon? I'll take one. As long as we're dreaming, maybe it could even be a retired M-B design like the Ssangyong Chairman: http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/downs/9323/sych600.htm Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
They should have a scissor style jack intended for transmissions as well. I bought one of the adapters for my floor jack and discovered the height problem too. I went back and swapped it for the scissor style jack. That will drop the transmission down to about 3 inches from the floor. I still had to slide the tranny off of the jack in order to get sufficient clearance to drag it out from under the vehicle without jacking the vehicle up further. The jack works well. It is raised and lowered by a screw. I use an air ratchet in the input of the screw and move it up and down with ease. It helps to have 2 or 3 people for reinstalling. One on either side of the jack and tranny and one under the front looking up into the bellhousing to ge the alignment right - at least that was the way we did it - on a manual tranny 4X4 with the transfer case attached which made the tranny a bit unbalanced to the back and one side. Might be easier on a basic tranny that would balance better. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 8:25 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style Luther, Harbor Freight sells a tranny handling adapter (about $30) which replaces the 5 inch saddle on your standard floor jack.? If you are thinking one man job, this will make the difference.? Unfortunately, it adds about 5 inches to the height you need to clear the frame.?? Worth it tho.? It straps the tranny down and tilts to permit angling the trans into place.? I just resealed my son's Dodge Caravan, by myself, and I am 69.? I did saw off about a 3 inch strip on the adapter to let it fit more easily in the space available.? Mine is available if you live close. For height, in front, I filled two std cement blocks, two pices of 3/4 plywood?which then I set my jack stands on.? In the back, the two jackstands were sufficient. Letting the engine/ trans assembly drop in the rear (keeping close watch for firewall clearance and cable strain) will make it easier to get at those honkin' big hex bolts, best reached with about 20 inches of extentions and a 1/2 breaker bar.? Clean the hex sockets (10mm) thoroughly with a brake cleaner, you don't want to round one of these and have it slip!? When they break loose, you will swear you broke something!? Heavy gloves will cushion the hands but watch your elbow.? Finally, get as much of the trans fluid out before you start, as it will run out the tailshaft when you pull the driveshaft. Good luck! Jim in Phoenix I'm thinking I need about 2' of clearance under the engine to squeeze the tranny in and out. Maybe those leftover 2x12s that I have will work when stacked and screwed together. -Original Message- From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:18 am Subject: Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style I'm thinking I need about 2' of clearance under the engine to squeeze the tranny in and out. Maybe those leftover 2x12s that I have will work when stacked and screwed together. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (176 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine Quoting Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm looking for tips and knowledge for getting my SDL high enough to RR the trans using floor/bottle jacks, jack stands, and ramps. Ideas? Any experience? TIA all. 450 SL tranny replacement. Had to get it scary high in the air in order to actually have room to work the tranny out from under. I think I had to jack it up in two steps, using big firewood rounds as spacers. Not my idea of great fun, but fairly stable if the wood is big enough. (And sawn square on the ends!) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT-Standalone hard drive
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:49 AM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: archer wrote: A major hard drive mfg is selling a standalone unit that supposedly works like an internal hard drive complete with its own OS. It requires two USB jacks and cords, it's fairly small and compact, has (160 gig capacity?), sells for about $150, and seems to be targetted at travelers. I noticed them at Walmart. Anyone tried them yet? Sounds vaguely like a Network Area Storage (NAS). Do you have brand or model numbers? John I would have said NAS as well, but it requires two USB connections to the computer? That doesn't sound quite right. Unless this OS the drive is running is using the USB as a paired send and receive. Seen some Cisco gear that would take several varied connections, 56K, ISDN, Frac T and then combine them up to increase the overall speed. That could be an interesting item if they have some how bound two USB controllers together to increase the throughput to the system. I agree, want Manufacturer and Model Numbers, need to do some research. EdB -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT-Standalone hard drive
Ed Booher wrote: I would have said NAS as well, but it requires two USB connections to the computer? That doesn't sound quite right. Unless this OS the drive is running is using the USB as a paired send and receive. Seen some Cisco gear that would take several varied connections, 56K, ISDN, Frac T and then combine them up to increase the overall speed. That could be an interesting item if they have some how bound two USB controllers together to increase the throughput to the system. Maybe the two USB connections are for hooking up additional external hard drives? Also, a friend recently bought a 2.5 based external harddrive, and it has lots of built-in tools and functionality on the hard drive (like those stupid U3 flash drives). It would install a CD-ROM drive and use the autostart facility in windows to launch their toolset. You could also access the HDD traditionally... Since it was based on a 2.5 laptop hard drive, it only requires 1 amp at 5V to run. The USB spec gives a max of 500mA per USB port, so the provided cable has one USB connection to the computer and a dummy branch off of that cable to get the other 500mA off the second port (only the VCC and ground pins are hooked up, no data lines). Usually you don't need to do that though. Now that I've remembered all that... the second is probably what it is. Is it a Maxtor unit? It was from Wal-mart and thats what he purchsed. Gerry, its junk IMO, and I would just get a normal external hard drive. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 3:18 AM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm thinking I need about 2' of clearance under the engine to squeeze the tranny in and out. Maybe those leftover 2x12s that I have will work when stacked and screwed together. My advice would be to see if you can find a local private owned, private run garage that has a couple of bays and ask to lease one for a couple of weekends. There was a guy I used to know around here that ran a garage out of his old pole barn, had a couple frame lifts and a ramp lift, and if you talked to him right he didn't mind letting you use one for a while. Too bad it's a subdivision now with McMansions in it. *sighs* I could use a lift for rent right about now. EdB -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My advice would be to see if you can find a local private owned, private run garage that has a couple of bays and ask to lease one for a couple of weekends. There was a guy I used to know around here that ran a garage out of his old pole barn, had a couple frame lifts and a ramp lift, and if you talked to him right he didn't mind letting you use one for a while. Also, you are a big truck mechanic, correct? This may not mean as much to you then, but when I was working as a mechanic for a Chrysler dealer we always had more bays than line techs. Large shop, three rows of lifts. So my General Manager never cared if I pulled my car into one from time to time. You know, had to ask first and make sure it was ok at that time, each time. EdB -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looking for some information - Carfax, etc
Ed Booher wrote: Looking for someone to Carfax my Mercedes. Curious to know how much Carfax knows about it It looks like it has the older style VIN. This is for your 1966 MB? Carfax doesn't go back that far because of the VIN style... I think it only goes back to the early 80's. The main reason I ask is because it throws more light on the fact that MB doesn't classify by engine, but by chassis. So do I need to be on the look out if I was in the market for a 300D, let's say, and someone had taken a 240D and changed the badges to 300D would the title say Model 240, or Model 0123? The W123 chassis has both 300D and 240D models (and others). They were the same chassis, but with different engines in them. To specify what engine is in them there is a second set of three numbers. For example a 78-80 300SD was the W116 chassis. The specific model is 116.120, so the vin starts as 116120. The .120 signifies that there was a OM617 turbodiesel in the car. The newer VINS do not contain a chassis number... the first few digits signify where the car is manufactured, etc. However, the model designation still lives on. For the CDI it is W211.026. It just isn't in the VIN anymore. Hope that made some sense! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My Kaleb car road test
Go for the fuel lines and/or cleaning the fuel tank. :) Dave H... -- From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 10:03 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] My Kaleb car road test I took my $500 1990 Buick LeSabre on a 400 mile trip yesterday. It performed very well. 26.7 mpg at 75-80 mph - 95% highway. The only thing weird was actually after I got back from the trip. My wife and I were going to dinner and as we were sitting at the stoplight it started missing. Just a little lurch every few seconds. But, it did not do it under load and it didn't do it on the whole trip. I just replaced the plugs (they were OLD) and wires this past weekend. Donald H. Snook McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn Herrington, P.A. 300 West Douglas P.O. Box 207 Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207 Tel. (316) 263-5851 This confidential message may be subject to the attorney-client privilege or protected by the attorney work-product doctrine. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify me. http://www.mtsqh.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Looking for some information - Carfax, etc
Looking for someone to Carfax my Mercedes. Curious to know how much Carfax knows about it VIN - 11001112011640 Also, anyone that happens to have their title handy, I'm curious what the Model is listed as for any year of Mercedes. I had assumed that the Model would be 230, since it is a 1966 MB 230, but the title lists the model as 0111. So now I'm curious as to if MB still lists the chassis as the model for even newer years, or if this was changed in the 70's say. The main reason I ask is because it throws more light on the fact that MB doesn't classify by engine, but by chassis. So do I need to be on the look out if I was in the market for a 300D, let's say, and someone had taken a 240D and changed the badges to 300D would the title say Model 240, or Model 0123? Thanks in advance, EdB -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 85 300SD
Hi folks, I called Rusty yesterday and got a TERRIFIC price on the Flex discs for this car's drive train. I intended to order them both (Front and Rear) tomorrow, when I get some money in. However an inspection today shows those discs to be good. Any ideas where to look if I am getting a loud clunking noise (like the older Ford truck U Joints sounded) some with acceleration and a lot with deceleration? Rear End? Rear Differential? Rear Differential fluid level? Dave H... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looking for some information - Carfax, etc
Ed Booher wrote: Looking for someone to Carfax my Mercedes. Curious to know how much Carfax knows about it VIN - 11001112011640 Nothing. If it's not a 1980 or newer with WDB vin, it's not in the database. I just checked the free first step and got this: Sorry, but the VIN you entered is incorrect. Please check the Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) you entered, 11001112011640, for accuracy and try again below. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
Yes, 11 pounds per square inch to break a forearm (per bone, laterally). I had no problem letting it come down on my chest and then wrestling out from under it. 6-2 and 280lb. Like I said, if you got a bit of heft to you. Manual on the other hand is super light and is no problem (just another reason to go to manual :) ). I have done atleast 4 transmissions in the same manner. Just make sure you have someone near by -Rolf Mitch Haley wrote: Rolf wrote: No need if you have a bit of heft in you. Just drop it on your chest and scoot out. Obviously have someone near by. When I worked at a Honda dealer, one of my coworkers showed up on Monday with a huge cast on his arm. It seems that Kelly had pulled the tranny (THM 350 or THM 400) on his Chevy pickup on Saturday. He braced his elbow against the driveway with his palm under the oil pan, grabbed the tailshaft with his right hand, and pulled the tranny off the locating dowels so he could catch it on his left hand. Shattered his left forearm like a toothpick. Scared me off from manual tranny catching for life. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
Bench Pressing the 280 lb. back IN A CONTROLLED MANNER would be the better of me at any time or size and I was 5'14 and 305 pounds. Thats 20 year ago, today a brake job leaves me panting. Pete -- Original message -- From: Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, 11 pounds per square inch to break a forearm (per bone, laterally). I had no problem letting it come down on my chest and then wrestling out from under it. 6-2 and 280lb. Like I said, if you got a bit of heft to you. Manual on the other hand is super light and is no problem (just another reason to go to manual :) ). I have done atleast 4 transmissions in the same manner. Just make sure you have someone near by -Rolf Mitch Haley wrote: Rolf wrote: No need if you have a bit of heft in you. Just drop it on your chest and scoot out. Obviously have someone near by. When I worked at a Honda dealer, one of my coworkers showed up on Monday with a huge cast on his arm. It seems that Kelly had pulled the tranny (THM 350 or THM 400) on his Chevy pickup on Saturday. He braced his elbow against the driveway with his palm under the oil pan, grabbed the tailshaft with his right hand, and pulled the tranny off the locating dowels so he could catch it on his left hand. Shattered his left forearm like a toothpick. Scared me off from manual tranny catching for life. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looking for some information - Carfax, etc
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nothing. If it's not a 1980 or newer with WDB vin, it's not in the database. I just checked the free first step and got this: Sorry, but the VIN you entered is incorrect. On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 12:43 PM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks like it has the older style VIN. This is for your 1966 MB? Carfax doesn't go back that far because of the VIN style... I think it only goes back to the early 80's. Thanks guys, appreciate the help on that. Hate that it doesn't exist in their database. Would have liked to have known more about it. Do you think a dealership would be able to help in anyway? My Diamante still exists in the Mitsu main database, and I was able to get the original dealer location etc from my dealer here. EdB -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looking for some information - Carfax, etc
Well, I'd think a 110.011 (whatever that is) would predate dealership computer databases by a few decades, but there might be some service history from the last 25 years or so in the computer. Ed Booher wrote: On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nothing. If it's not a 1980 or newer with WDB vin, it's not in the database. I just checked the free first step and got this: Sorry, but the VIN you entered is incorrect. On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 12:43 PM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks like it has the older style VIN. This is for your 1966 MB? Carfax doesn't go back that far because of the VIN style... I think it only goes back to the early 80's. Thanks guys, appreciate the help on that. Hate that it doesn't exist in their database. Would have liked to have known more about it. Do you think a dealership would be able to help in anyway? My Diamante still exists in the Mitsu main database, and I was able to get the original dealer location etc from my dealer here. EdB -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looking for some information - Carfax, etc
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 1:57 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I'd think a 110.011 (whatever that is) would predate dealership computer databases by a few decades, but there might be some service history from the last 25 years or so in the computer. You know what, you just reminded me to triple check (I keep getting confused between W110 and W111) and I'm positive I have this: W110.011 1965–1965 230 2.3 L *M180http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mercedes-Benz_M180_engineaction=editredlink=1 * I6 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight-6 40,258 Yet, the title clearly states the Model as a 0111, which I took to mean W111. Now I'm even more confused. EdB -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looking for some information - Carfax, etc
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know what, you just reminded me to triple check (I keep getting confused between W110 and W111) and I'm positive I have this: Let me rephrase, I'm not confused between some of the differences, I know the W111 had different headlights, and was considered a better optioned vehicle, and the W110 was more the entry level MB at the time. I just always get sidetracked when trying to keep them straight in my head. Sort of like the difference between a 56 210 and a 56 Bel Air. Both the same shape, but subtle differences can be seen, yes? EdB -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 300SD
Axles? Pinion or something in the diff? -R Dave H... wrote: Hi folks, I called Rusty yesterday and got a TERRIFIC price on the Flex discs for this car's drive train. I intended to order them both (Front and Rear) tomorrow, when I get some money in. However an inspection today shows those discs to be good. Any ideas where to look if I am getting a loud clunking noise (like the older Ford truck U Joints sounded) some with acceleration and a lot with deceleration? Rear End? Rear Differential? Rear Differential fluid level? Dave H... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190E 2.3 a/c issue
Sorry for the delay I had to prepare for the trip to Ann Arbor, MI for my son's graduation on April 26. It is the U. of MI (GO BLUE). Any alumni from the wolverines? He's a EE major. Ever thought of 12,000 plus graduate at the same time (B, M and PhD). The last time I did it was 6,000 at U. of WI (about 30 yrs ago). The temperature switch was faulty as it should have turn the fan between 90 and 100. It did not and hence it runs hot. Peter was right on. Thanks. K.S. - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 10:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190E 2.3 a/c issue Actually, the temperature shouldn't get that high except while sitting in traffic stopped on a very hot day. The 190 can run a bit hotter than a W124 chassis due to the electric clutch on the main fan (tends to be less responsive to temp, and is on or off, not gradual slip like the visco clutch), but 100C while moving is way too hot. That said, the temperature sensor is probably bad, too. The AC compressor should restart when the temp drops back to normal. I think there is a required difference, but don't know exactly what. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=39178 This is just like the one I used and referred to in an earlier post. The only thing I would suggest is that you might want to modify the top as it is a bit narrow and short to balance the transmission on and the strap is not a whole lot of help. The adapters that fit a floor jack have adjustable arms that probably work better to balance the tranny. Would not be difficult to rig something similar to the scissor jack. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looking for some information - Carfax, etc
FWIW I have good reason to believe that car spent some time in Hawaii. Also, there are some repair records in the glove box that might provide a little history. Allan -- 1983 300D Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nothing. If it's not a 1980 or newer with WDB vin, it's not in the database. I just checked the free first step and got this: Sorry, but the VIN you entered is incorrect. On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 12:43 PM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks like it has the older style VIN. This is for your 1966 MB? Carfax doesn't go back that far because of the VIN style... I think it only goes back to the early 80's. Thanks guys, appreciate the help on that. Hate that it doesn't exist in their database. Would have liked to have known more about it. Do you think a dealership would be able to help in anyway? My Diamante still exists in the Mitsu main database, and I was able to get the original dealer location etc from my dealer here. EdB -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
You prosperous gents are gonna need to lift that car another few inches to get under it. --R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bench Pressing the 280 lb. back IN A CONTROLLED MANNER would be the better of me at any time or size and I was 5'14 and 305 pounds. Thats 20 year ago, today a brake job leaves me panting. Pete -- Original message -- From: Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, 11 pounds per square inch to break a forearm (per bone, laterally). I had no problem letting it come down on my chest and then wrestling out from under it. 6-2 and 280lb. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: hilarious chrysler training vid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbVY5teBzlg This was linked from OM617 being announced as Jalopnik engine of the day. -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 300SD
Actually I've been meaning to mention... I had the summer tires put back on my 190D on Friday, had to buy 2 new ones to replace 2 that were worn when I had bad links in the rear end. So they put the two good old ones on the rear first while I went inside to get the 2 replacements. The kid and I talked while he swapped those on $8/hr? Geez When he went to hit it with the torque wrench the car started to roll away because he'd left it on the jacks, probably since I'd distracted him... Got it off the jacks, hit the fronts with the TW and I was off. Had to go out to western MA on Saturday, did about 100 miles. On the way home I started to notice a vibration I didn't like but figured I was just tired. Vibration was back Sunday and got BAD including thunking on deceleration BAD. I got scared until it occured to me the kid hadn't used the TW on the rear wheels. You don't suppose? Yup, the rears weren't even finger tight. Pulled out my lug wrench and tightened, vibration GONE, thunking GONE. Hit 'em with my TW when I got home, its a beam type that only goes to 75 ft/lb. I keep forgetting to go back and get them retorqued, I should have yesterday but it was pouring... Anyway, stupid little thing, but worth checking. -Curt Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:09:36 -0400 From: Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] 85 300SD To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi folks, I called Rusty yesterday and got a TERRIFIC price on the Flex discs for this car's drive train. I intended to order them both (Front and Rear) tomorrow, when I get some money in. However an inspection today shows those discs to be good. Any ideas where to look if I am getting a loud clunking noise (like the older Ford truck U Joints sounded) some with acceleration and a lot with deceleration? Rear End? Rear Differential? Rear Differential fluid level? Dave H... - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT-Standalone hard drive
Yup. Flash drives with a stripped down OS running minimal versions of common buisness software. Don't know the utility of the software as it will not run on a Mac, but flash drives are great, I have a couple and use them to transfer things like software updates and other large files between my computers. I don't know what the max size is these days, but 16 GB ones are reasonable (less that $50 retail), larger ones are probably more. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 300SD
tranny mount? CM Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually I've been meaning to mention... I had the summer tires put back on my 190D on Friday, had to buy 2 new ones to replace 2 that were worn when I had bad links in the rear end. So they put the two good old ones on the rear first while I went inside to get the 2 replacements. The kid and I talked while he swapped those on $8/hr? Geez When he went to hit it with the torque wrench the car started to roll away because he'd left it on the jacks, probably since I'd distracted him... Got it off the jacks, hit the fronts with the TW and I was off. Had to go out to western MA on Saturday, did about 100 miles. On the way home I started to notice a vibration I didn't like but figured I was just tired. Vibration was back Sunday and got BAD including thunking on deceleration BAD. I got scared until it occured to me the kid hadn't used the TW on the rear wheels. You don't suppose? Yup, the rears weren't even finger tight. Pulled out my lug wrench and tightened, vibration GONE, thunking GONE. Hit 'em with my TW when I got home, its a beam type that only goes to 75 ft/lb. I keep forgetting to go back and get them retorqued, I should have yesterday but it was pouring... Anyway, stupid little thing, but worth checking. -Curt Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:09:36 -0400 From: Dave H... Subject: [MBZ] 85 300SD To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi folks, I called Rusty yesterday and got a TERRIFIC price on the Flex discs for this car's drive train. I intended to order them both (Front and Rear) tomorrow, when I get some money in. However an inspection today shows those discs to be good. Any ideas where to look if I am getting a loud clunking noise (like the older Ford truck U Joints sounded) some with acceleration and a lot with deceleration? Rear End? Rear Differential? Rear Differential fluid level? Dave H... - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looking for some information - Carfax, etc
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW I have good reason to believe that car spent some time in Hawaii. Also, there are some repair records in the glove box that might provide a little history. Allan I saw those, haven't read them yet though, thanks Allan. Why do you think it spent time in Hawaii? EdB -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looking for some information - Carfax, etc
When I got the car the original rear bumper had a Hawaii permit sticker of some sort on it. Either emissions or safety inspection, can't recall which. That bumper had been pulled apart at the center (the bumper is two separate halves). That's why the right rear panel is dented where the bumper wraps around. At some point in the past, I think someone had attempted to pull the car by wrapping a tow rope around the middle of bumper, which separated at the center and then the right half pulled away from the car, causing the end to contact that panel and push it in. I replaced that bumper with one from a junker, but never got around to trying to hammer out the dent in the panel. Allan On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:38:10 -0400, Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW I have good reason to believe that car spent some time in Hawaii. Also, there are some repair records in the glove box that might provide a little history. Allan I saw those, haven't read them yet though, thanks Allan. Why do you think it spent time in Hawaii? EdB -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looking for some information - Carfax, etc
carfax only works on 81 and newer cars Ed Booher wrote: Looking for someone to Carfax my Mercedes. Curious to know how much Carfax knows about it VIN - 11001112011640 Also, anyone that happens to have their title handy, I'm curious what the Model is listed as for any year of Mercedes. I had assumed that the Model would be 230, since it is a 1966 MB 230, but the title lists the model as 0111. So now I'm curious as to if MB still lists the chassis as the model for even newer years, or if this was changed in the 70's say. The main reason I ask is because it throws more light on the fact that MB doesn't classify by engine, but by chassis. So do I need to be on the look out if I was in the market for a 300D, let's say, and someone had taken a 240D and changed the badges to 300D would the title say Model 240, or Model 0123? Thanks in advance, EdB -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1960 Mercedes Fintail
Bzzt that may be wrong. The trunk lids interchange. front fenders are different. there are short hoods and long hoods. Doors fit, but may have different trim. Bumpers are different. Pieces of rear fenders may fit, but the rear fenders are different. tail lights are different. you have to match to a specific model and year, then there is a range of interchange parts. Lots of running changes for things like doors. They all look the same, but they are almost all different. At 02:18 AM 2/10/2008, you wrote: Ed most parts for 110 -111 are interchangeable and that includes the engine/mechanical components too. Only exceptions are the 111 coupes. mak - Original Message - From: Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 11:55 PM Subject: [MBZ] 1960 Mercedes Fintail Question, Is the W110 and W111 interchangeable as far as body parts are concerned? Ed --- 1960 mercedes fintail - $350 -- Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008-02-08, 4:57PM EST I have a 1960 Mercedes fintail, 6 cyl. Engine runs, car needs body work ect.. rocker on drivers side, drivers floorboard needs repaired. Car would be good for parts or to restore. - This item has been posted by-owner. - Location: Russiaville,kokomo - it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Curt's Kawasaki 454LTD on Diesel/Veggie oil
I just spotted this one on CL. http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/mcy/662083502.html Interesting, eh? Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT-Standalone hard drive
From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT-Standalone hard drive archer wrote: A major hard drive mfg is selling a standalone unit that supposedly works like an internal hard drive complete with its own OS. It requires two USB jacks and cords, it's fairly small and compact, has (160 gig capacity?), sells for about $150, and seems to be targetted at travelers. I noticed them at Walmart. Anyone tried them yet? Sounds vaguely like a Network Area Storage (NAS). Do you have brand or model numbers? John ___ I just stopped and read the box at Walmart, John. Believe it was a Seagate. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT-Standalone hard drive
archer wrote: A major hard drive mfg is selling a standalone unit that supposedly works like an internal hard drive complete with its own OS. It requires two USB jacks and cords, it's fairly small and compact, has (160 gig capacity?), sells for about $150, and seems to be targetted at travelers. I noticed them at Walmart. Anyone tried them yet? -- Sounds vaguely like a Network Area Storage (NAS). Do you have brand or model numbers? John -- I would have said NAS as well, but it requires two USB connections to the computer? That doesn't sound quite right. Unless this OS the drive is running is using the USB as a paired send and receive. Seen some Cisco gear that would take several varied connections, 56K, ISDN, Frac T and then combine them up to increase the overall speed. That could be an interesting item if they have some how bound two USB controllers together to increase the throughput to the system. I agree, want Manufacturer and Model Numbers, need to do some research. EdB The instructions said the second cable was needed only if an OS was installed and it was used like an internal harddrive. I just now checked Seagates and Walmarts websites. Neither listed that hard drive. Seagate may be test marketing it in out-of-the-way Walmarts like the ones out here in the backwoods. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
8 or so. Harbor Freight sissor/crank/non-hydraulic type. On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 06:16:28 -0500, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: about 2' of clearance under the engine to squeeze the tranny An oft-overlooked factor is the height of the transmission jack, assuming you're using such. -- Jim -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
If you have seen me (6'2, 180, and I've benched 200+ lbs 4 times in my life) you would know this is NOT an option. I already have a tranny jack. Luther On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:03:53 -0500, Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No need if you have a bit of heft in you. Just drop it on your chest and scoot out. Obviously have someone near by. Auto tranny isn't all that heavy (150lb? tops?) and the manuals are like 75lb or lighter. -Rolf Jim Cathey wrote: about 2' of clearance under the engine to squeeze the tranny An oft-overlooked factor is the height of the transmission jack, assuming you're using such. -- Jim -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
I'm not a big truck mechanic. I do the Roadside Assistance, sorta like On-Star, but we say NO like a bad credit card reward program... Luther On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:37:19 -0500, Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My advice would be to see if you can find a local private owned, private run garage that has a couple of bays and ask to lease one for a couple of weekends. There was a guy I used to know around here that ran a garage out of his old pole barn, had a couple frame lifts and a ramp lift, and if you talked to him right he didn't mind letting you use one for a while. Also, you are a big truck mechanic, correct? This may not mean as much to you then, but when I was working as a mechanic for a Chrysler dealer we always had more bays than line techs. Large shop, three rows of lifts. So my General Manager never cared if I pulled my car into one from time to time. You know, had to ask first and make sure it was ok at that time, each time. EdB -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Curt's Kawasaki 454LTD on Diesel/Veggie oil
$15k would buy a brand new EX250 and 3,000 gallons of gas (180,000 miles if you ride moderately hard). 105mph top speed beats 72mph any day. I got through high school and two years of college with a 16hp bike that would do 80mph. Would haul my 120lb butt up moderate hills at 55mph or a little better. A bike with 72mph top speed will climb hills like a 180d, but the 180d can probably outrun it on the flats. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] trans RR shade-tree style
Borrow an engine hoist (a good one!) and pull engine and tranny together. Vastly safer than jacking the car high enough to get the tranny out from underneath. I'd only attempt that with a lift. Peter On Apr 30, 2008, at 1:15 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: I'm looking for tips and knowledge for getting my SDL high enough to RR the trans using floor/bottle jacks, jack stands, and ramps. Ideas? Any experience? TIA all. 450 SL tranny replacement. Had to get it scary high in the air in order to actually have room to work the tranny out from under. I think I had to jack it up in two steps, using big firewood rounds as spacers. Not my idea of great fun, but fairly stable if the wood is big enough. (And sawn square on the ends!) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 300SD
Worn out carrier in the diff -- the spider gear shafts wear from inadequate lubrication and the resultant oval hole allow them to move and clank. Easy to check -- see how much free rotation there is at the pinion. Should be minimal, but I'm willing to bet you have quite a bit -- half a turn or so -- accompanied by a clunk as the shafts hit the end of the oval holes. Time for a replacment diff, and this time put synthetic lube in it. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT-Standalone hard drive
Many drive cases use a two-tailed plug -- USB ports are limited to 500mA, and you may need more, hence the two plugs for 1A. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Rusty Euro Audi Parts
Some of the Audi models do list both because the rear on some models was the split race/bearing, but the front was sealed. I think most of them from the mid 80's had the sealed front, but the back is split. It might be best if you give the year and the model of your Audi before you decide which bearing you need. I think the differences were before VW bought Audi and now they share alot of the same assembly procedures to save money. Harry 69 280 SEL 72 350SL ? 04 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata ? -Original Message- From: Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 7:21 pm Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Rusty Euro Audi Parts Sealed type for what years? You see, the worldpac catalogue lists the two types for my car with a chassis split. Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bad vibration
There has been an increasing amount of play in the gears, Jim. I had planned to put in a new diff support and run it as long as possible, but then one of axle boots started leaking so I decided to replace both the diff and the axle while I was at it. I've already received the diff, transmission, and motor mounts from Rusty; so that ought to quiet it down a bit. Thanks, Gerry Gerry,? There are no match marks at the flex discs to worry about.? I am concerned that your noisy differential was not the differential, but merely a weak differential support mount.? Did the diff have lots of play in the gears that would make you suspect it is failing?? A bad mount will transmit a huge amount of gear noise!? Either way, be sure you replace your 25 year old mount with a new one.? Maybe try the new? mount with your old diff first---. Jim in Phoenix -- I have a vibration at speeds over about 55mph on my '83 300D which I hope will be cured by replacing a bad axle and noisy differential. The differential I got locally was unbolted at the flex disc which looks newer than the one on the car. Are there any kind of alignment marks or special things to watch out for if I just bolt the drive shaft on to the flex disc that's already mounted on the differential? Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bad vibration
archer wrote: newer than the one on the car. Are there any kind of alignment marks or special things to watch out for if I just bolt the drive shaft on to the flex disc that's already mounted on the differential? --- Should just bolt up. Did your new diff come from a 82-85 turbo? If the donor was a '85, do you have the '85 speedometer/odometer to go with it? Mitch Haley Glad to know that. I'll check with him and get the speedometer/odometer if necessary. If it was an '85, would the diff be higher or lower ratio? Would the part number on the diff be different for an '85? Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Steam engine hybrid
Here's an interesting article about the early Doble steam car: Excerpt: In early 1924- over ten years after the unofficial demise of steam technology- the Doble brothers shipped a Model E to New York City to be road-tested by the Automobile Club of America. After sitting overnight in freezing temperatures, the car was pushed out into the road and left to sit for over an hour in the frosty morning air. Doble's flash boiler (click image for larger view)At the turn of the key, the boiler lit with a throaty burst reminiscent of a gas furnace, and the gauges began to twitch. The boiler reached its operating pressure inside of forty seconds, and the driver experimentally turned the throttle knob on the steering wheel. With a low hum, the car's steam engine briskly pushed the vehicle forward with 1,000 foot-pounds of torque, smoothly accelerating the car and its four passengers to forty miles per hour in just just 12.5 seconds. As they drove the test vehicle further, they found that its evenly-distributed weight lent it surprisingly good handling in spite of its great mass. The onlookers were understandably quite impressed. The only notable shortcoming was its mediocre braking performance, but this flaw was eclipsed by its massive, silent power and graceful handling. It seemed that the the Doble brothers were finally following through on their promise of a great steam car. As the new Doble steamer was further developed and tested in the Emeryville factory, a lighter version of the Model E zipped from zero to seventy-five miles per hour in a jaw-dropping ten seconds. Even at such high speeds, the engine and drive train were free of noticeable vibration, and the steam piston engine was turning at a leisurely 900 RPM. The model E's maximum speed was pushed to over 100 miles per hour, and it achieved about fifteen miles per gallon of kerosene with negligible emissions. The engine and drivetrain were solid and reliable, and due to Abner's perfectionist nature the parts in the steamer's drive system were machined to fit perfectly, negating the need for problematic gaskets..snip http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=669 -- - Original Message - From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think there were fairly advanced condensing steam cars in the 50's...something was mixed with the water or used in place of the water...alcohol, maybe? Chris MG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually there were quite a few condensing steam train engines starting from way back in the 1700 all the way to the end of the steam era. Many of them were used in service but none were really successful, not because of the condenser size but because of the amount of dirt stirred up by the train as it moved. This caused too much clogging of the condensers and the use was mostly discontinued unless there was an overriding problem with getting water as in some of the desert regions in Africa where there were some of these in use from the 50s till some time in the 60s. There were even some here in the states but they were more a demonstration then a real useful thing and I think they were scrapped after less then a year and the steel used for the war effort. Manfred Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:18:14 -0500 From: Peter Frederick The heat exchanger to recover the exhaust is going to be half the size of the car, at least. That's why no one ever made one, even for locomotives. Ships get to use the ocean, which works a whole lot better, and the condensers are still pretty large. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.5/1398 - Release Date: 4/25/2008 2:31 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bad vibration
I know where that is. Lived near Palm River many years ago. Thanks, Dan. Gerry - From: LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] These are the guys. They're more into truck and heavy equipment stuff, but they did a good job and worked with me to get it right. Florida Powertrain Hydraulics Inc 6501 Adamo Dr | Tampa, FL 33619 PH: (813) 623-6713 | FX: (813) 623-6713 archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you recall the name of the drive shaft repair place in Tampa, Dan? I have a vibration at speeds over about 55mph on my '83 300D which I hope will be cured by replacing a bad axle and noisy differential. The differential I got locally was unbolted at the flex disc which looks newer than the one on the car. Are there any kind of alignment marks or special things to watch out for if I just bolt the drive shaft on to the flex disc that's already mounted on the differential? Thanks, Gerry '83 300D and 240D -- From: LWB250 I had a 250LWB, which is a 123 chassis that's been stretched (by the factory) for use as a taxi. This particular chassis, due to the length, has a three piece drive shaft, meaning two flex disk, two center bearings, and three sections. I don't recall what precipitated the problem, but it developed (or may have had it when I got it) vibration at certain speeds. I found a bum center bearing and carrier and replaced it. No joy. I replaced the second center bearing and carrier. Still no relief. I RR'ed it, checked the marks, reassembled, nada. This took place over the course of several months. By the final time I RR'ed the whole thing (I was getting really good at it!) I found what I suspected was a bad U joint. Knowing that the process for replacing MB U joints was a very specialized one, I went to my local drive shaft repair house and talked to them about it. Heck, there's nothing special about that - we do it all the time! They had to ship it to their Miami location, since the shop here in Tampa didn't have a balancer that could handle the length of my shaft. No additional charge to do this, just a couple of days and it was back. I get the shaft in pieces, load it up, take it home and lay it out on the garage floor for reassembly. Guess what? They didn't put match marks on the pieces. Damn. I called them up and was assured that it didn't matter, as they had balanced it as separate sections as well as a complete shaft. What? They also said that if I installed it and it still had vibration to bring it back, they would rebalance it, and send it back with match marks. That's ultimately what happened. A real PITA, but after nearly two years I didn't have this horrendous vibration around 10 mph that sounded like it was going to tear open the floor just above the second center bearing. I still have a box of the locknuts for the flex disk bolts as a reminder Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bad vibration
archer wrote: Glad to know that. I'll check with him and get the speedometer/odometer if necessary. If it was an '85, would the diff be higher or lower ratio? '83 should be 3.07:1, I think '85 is 2.88:1, which is about 7% taller. I believe the ratio is stamped on the housing somewhere. Not sure about part numbers. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Curt's Kawasaki 454LTD on Diesel/Veggie oil
Yeah, I know! $15K is way above crazy for that bike, but I couldn't resist sharing it. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300sD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Peter 300D a/c problem
I know that if the charge is low, compressor will not turn at all. I go back to the book and see what could be possible fixes. Thanks again. K.S. - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190E 2.3 a/c issue My pleasure. Glad it was an easy fix! Now I have to find out why the compressor won't stay on in the 300D -- speed sensor problem, but I don't know if the sensor is bad or the wiring is fubar'd, haven't had time to figure it out. Low on charge, too, so I gotta find and fix the leak -- anyone want to bet on an evaporator? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Steam engine hybrid
Jay Leno has one of those. There was a show about it, he about singed his face lighting the thing off -- it uses gasoline and you have to stick a long match in it to start the fire. But it did warm up very fast and move off quickly, seemed to have plenty of torque/power for acceleration and speed. I recall him saying they had to build a new boiler for it as the original was completely shot. It was not too big, maybe like half a garbage can size. --R archer wrote: Here's an interesting article about the early Doble steam car: Excerpt: In early 1924- over ten years after the unofficial demise of steam technology- the Doble brothers shipped a Model E to New York City to be road-tested by the Automobile Club of America. After sitting overnight in freezing temperatures, the car was pushed out into the road and left to sit for over an hour in the frosty morning air. Doble's flash boiler (click image for larger view)At the turn of the key, the boiler lit with a throaty burst reminiscent of a gas furnace, and the gauges began to twitch. The boiler reached its operating pressure inside of forty seconds, and the driver experimentally turned the throttle knob on the steering wheel. With a low hum, the car's steam engine briskly pushed the vehicle forward with 1,000 foot-pounds of torque, smoothly accelerating the car and its four passengers to forty miles per hour in just just 12.5 seconds. As they drove the test vehicle further, they found that its evenly-distributed weight lent it surprisingly good handling in spite of its great mass. The onlookers were understandably quite impressed. The only notable shortcoming was its mediocre braking performance, but this flaw was eclipsed by its massive, silent power and graceful handling. It seemed that the the Doble brothers were finally following through on their promise of a great steam car. As the new Doble steamer was further developed and tested in the Emeryville factory, a lighter version of the Model E zipped from zero to seventy-five miles per hour in a jaw-dropping ten seconds. Even at such high speeds, the engine and drive train were free of noticeable vibration, and the steam piston engine was turning at a leisurely 900 RPM. The model E's maximum speed was pushed to over 100 miles per hour, and it achieved about fifteen miles per gallon of kerosene with negligible emissions. The engine and drivetrain were solid and reliable, and due to Abner's perfectionist nature the parts in the steamer's drive system were machined to fit perfectly, negating the need for problematic gaskets..snip http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=669 -- - Original Message - From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think there were fairly advanced condensing steam cars in the 50's...something was mixed with the water or used in place of the water...alcohol, maybe? Chris MG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually there were quite a few condensing steam train engines starting from way back in the 1700 all the way to the end of the steam era. Many of them were used in service but none were really successful, not because of the condenser size but because of the amount of dirt stirred up by the train as it moved. This caused too much clogging of the condensers and the use was mostly discontinued unless there was an overriding problem with getting water as in some of the desert regions in Africa where there were some of these in use from the 50s till some time in the 60s. There were even some here in the states but they were more a demonstration then a real useful thing and I think they were scrapped after less then a year and the steel used for the war effort. Manfred Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:18:14 -0500 From: Peter Frederick The heat exchanger to recover the exhaust is going to be half the size of the car, at least. That's why no one ever made one, even for locomotives. Ships get to use the ocean, which works a whole lot better, and the condensers are still pretty large. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.5/1398 - Release Date: 4/25/2008 2:31 PM
[MBZ] Selling 87 300D
I posted this up last week on the Super tubo site and thought I would spam my good friends here too. This OM603 powered W124 would make a good starting point for a super turbo project. It was the original diesel Hot Rod and held the fastest diesel production car in the US for years. I hate to let it go but I've got to face facts that I will not be able to give it the attention it deserves. There is some right front corner and bumper damage, but it did not effect the engine compartment or core support. 23 mi Runs and shifts well. It still has a #14 head but has never overheated or built reservoir pressure overnight. Under duress from swmbo teenage son drove this car for eight months. So the interior shows wear (door panels armrests) also right front damage. The wife and I drove and loved this car for years and it was well maintained. Now it breaks my heart to see it. I'm offering it to my super turbo friends before it goes to Craigs list. $1800. http://www.schumanautomotive.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6320 Bob D. Parrish, FL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Curt's Kawasaki 454LTD on Diesel/Veggie oil
Technically speaking it's Angie's 454 but still... She says its cute and she wants it, think how much gas we could save! Think how much gas we'd HAVE to save to pay for a $15000 bike... Anyway, very interesting, not sure I'd want to give up 10hp and gain the weight though. Its not a super powerful bike to begin with. -Curt Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:13:26 -0700 From: Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] OT Curt's Kawasaki 454LTD on Diesel/Veggie oil To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original I just spotted this one on CL. http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/mcy/662083502.html Interesting, eh? Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Steam engine hybrid
I found this through a google search, it was in an auto blog. Harry British company Clean Power Technologies is working on a novel new type of hybrid powertrain. They are taking advantage of the fact in an internal combustion engine upwards of thirty-five percent of the energy in the fuel goes out the exhaust pipe in the form of heat in the exhaust gases and a similar amount is dissipated by the cooling system. Clean Power wants to recapture that lost heat energy and store it in the form of steam. So far that seems like a good idea, the problem is that in the confined space of a car utilizing steam can be problematic. The hot exhaust and cooling system are used to produce the steam which is stored in an accumulator. Power plants use steam to drive turbines and generators. A car would be unlikely to generate enough steam flow to keep a turbine running. Instead Clean Power is using a pair of Mazda RX-8s to develop their system. They have modified the Wankel rotary so that one rotor runs normally on gasoline while the other is driven by steam. Over the next year they will be modifying the RX-8s and testing them. It will be interesting to see if the steam system can add enough power to the drivetrain to overcome the extra weight or whether it will be better than just a smaller displacement engine of similar efficiency. We'll be keeping an eye on this unique new approach. On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jay Leno has one of those. There was a show about it, he about singed his face lighting the thing off -- it uses gasoline and you have to stick a long match in it to start the fire. But it did warm up very fast and move off quickly, seemed to have plenty of torque/power for acceleration and speed. I recall him saying they had to build a new boiler for it as the original was completely shot. It was not too big, maybe like half a garbage can size. --R archer wrote: Here's an interesting article about the early Doble steam car: Excerpt: In early 1924- over ten years after the unofficial demise of steam technology- the Doble brothers shipped a Model E to New York City to be road-tested by the Automobile Club of America. After sitting overnight in freezing temperatures, the car was pushed out into the road and left to sit for over an hour in the frosty morning air. Doble's flash boiler (click image for larger view)At the turn of the key, the boiler lit with a throaty burst reminiscent of a gas furnace, and the gauges began to twitch. The boiler reached its operating pressure inside of forty seconds, and the driver experimentally turned the throttle knob on the steering wheel. With a low hum, the car's steam engine briskly pushed the vehicle forward with 1,000 foot-pounds of torque, smoothly accelerating the car and its four passengers to forty miles per hour in just just 12.5 seconds. As they drove the test vehicle further, they found that its evenly-distributed weight lent it surprisingly good handling in spite of its great mass. The onlookers were understandably quite impressed. The only notable shortcoming was its mediocre braking performance, but this flaw was eclipsed by its massive, silent power and graceful handling. It seemed that the the Doble brothers were finally following through on their promise of a great steam car. As the new Doble steamer was further developed and tested in the Emeryville factory, a lighter version of the Model E zipped from zero to seventy-five miles per hour in a jaw-dropping ten seconds. Even at such high speeds, the engine and drive train were free of noticeable vibration, and the steam piston engine was turning at a leisurely 900 RPM. The model E's maximum speed was pushed to over 100 miles per hour, and it achieved about fifteen miles per gallon of kerosene with negligible emissions. The engine and drivetrain were solid and reliable, and due to Abner's perfectionist nature the parts in the steamer's drive system were machined to fit perfectly, negating the need for problematic gaskets..snip http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=669 -- - Original Message - From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think there were fairly advanced condensing steam cars in the 50's...something was mixed with the water or used in place of the water...alcohol, maybe? Chris MG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually there were quite a few condensing steam train engines starting from way back in the 1700 all the way to the end of the steam era. Many of them were used in service but none were really successful, not because of the condenser size but because of the amount of dirt stirred up by the train as it moved. This caused too much clogging of the condensers and the use was mostly discontinued unless there was an overriding problem with getting water as in some of the
Re: [MBZ] 85 300SD
Any ideas where to look if I am getting a loud clunking noise (like the older Ford truck U Joints sounded) some with acceleration and a lot with deceleration? How's the driveline center bearing support? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Still happy with my 300SD, but ...
I am still most pleased with my SD with the new [rebuilt] injection pump. The shifting is way better and the smoking has stopped and the things starts most easily. One oddity I have noticed is that at normal in town highway speeds [ mid 40's] I can here a faint ticking from somewhere under the hood. It does not seem to be there at idle, and not being able to run beside the car to check I thought I might ask the experts. My first guess would have to be something in the injection pump as nothing else on the car has been changed. Any thoughts? Other than that faint tick, I have heard the rattle of an injection pump with what I think is a messed up vacuum connection once or twice, and for some reason it started to idle at about 7500 RPM rather than its usual 6500. That only went on for a short time, but it was noticeable. Turning off the AC had no effect. Thanks for all who help us non-mechanical types. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 301k miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bad vibration
You're welcome, Gerry. And I *don't* think you would want to be living in Palm River these days it's not the nicest part of town, unless you're looking for illicit behavior or articles. Dan --- archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know where that is. Lived near Palm River many years ago. Thanks, Dan. Gerry - From: LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] These are the guys. They're more into truck and heavy equipment stuff, but they did a good job and worked with me to get it right. Florida Powertrain Hydraulics Inc 6501 Adamo Dr | Tampa, FL 33619 PH: (813) 623-6713 | FX: (813) 623-6713 archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you recall the name of the drive shaft repair place in Tampa, Dan? I have a vibration at speeds over about 55mph on my '83 300D which I hope will be cured by replacing a bad axle and noisy differential. The differential I got locally was unbolted at the flex disc which looks newer than the one on the car. Are there any kind of alignment marks or special things to watch out for if I just bolt the drive shaft on to the flex disc that's already mounted on the differential? Thanks, Gerry '83 300D and 240D -- From: LWB250 I had a 250LWB, which is a 123 chassis that's been stretched (by the factory) for use as a taxi. This particular chassis, due to the length, has a three piece drive shaft, meaning two flex disk, two center bearings, and three sections. I don't recall what precipitated the problem, but it developed (or may have had it when I got it) vibration at certain speeds. I found a bum center bearing and carrier and replaced it. No joy. I replaced the second center bearing and carrier. Still no relief. I RR'ed it, checked the marks, reassembled, nada. This took place over the course of several months. By the final time I RR'ed the whole thing (I was getting really good at it!) I found what I suspected was a bad U joint. Knowing that the process for replacing MB U joints was a very specialized one, I went to my local drive shaft repair house and talked to them about it. Heck, there's nothing special about that - we do it all the time! They had to ship it to their Miami location, since the shop here in Tampa didn't have a balancer that could handle the length of my shaft. No additional charge to do this, just a couple of days and it was back. I get the shaft in pieces, load it up, take it home and lay it out on the garage floor for reassembly. Guess what? They didn't put match marks on the pieces. Damn. I called them up and was assured that it didn't matter, as they had balanced it as separate sections as well as a complete shaft. What? They also said that if I installed it and it still had vibration to bring it back, they would rebalance it, and send it back with match marks. That's ultimately what happened. A real PITA, but after nearly two years I didn't have this horrendous vibration around 10 mph that sounded like it was going to tear open the floor just above the second center bearing. I still have a box of the locknuts for the flex disk bolts as a reminder Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OK Don has a new car
Back to the subject line - '92 300D 2.5 turbo from Kaleb - the first tank (actually a half tank), over 280 miles, 180 of which was 75 mph highway, the rest mixed town and commuting, yeilded 35 mpg. Very nice! I don't expect this to be accurate, the sample was too small, I filled at different stations, etc., but it's probably ball park. What a great car! The ACC is a little schzoid, but it probably just needs a PBU re-solder job. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '92 300D, '90 300D, ' '81 240D, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Selling 87 300D
Bob, Got Pictures? At 06:45 PM 4/30/2008, you wrote: I posted this up last week on the Super tubo site and thought I would spam my good friends here too. This OM603 powered W124 would make a good starting point for a super turbo project. It was the original diesel Hot Rod and held the fastest diesel production car in the US for years. I hate to let it go but I've got to face facts that I will not be able to give it the attention it deserves. There is some right front corner and bumper damage, but it did not effect the engine compartment or core support. 23 mi Runs and shifts well. It still has a #14 head but has never overheated or built reservoir pressure overnight. Under duress from swmbo teenage son drove this car for eight months. So the interior shows wear (door panels armrests) also right front damage. The wife and I drove and loved this car for years and it was well maintained. Now it breaks my heart to see it. I'm offering it to my super turbo friends before it goes to Craigs list. $1800. http://www.schumanautomotive.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6320 Bob D. Parrish, FL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] V-8 fuel pump relay needed
I am in need of a good fuel pump relay pn: 001 545 53 05 If you have one please mail me a price off-list. [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is for 85 380SL Daughtermobile. Thanks to those who suggested the relay last fall. I finally got it to act up when I could check it. the relay died, and the fuel pump draws between 5 and 9 amps depending on engine on/off and the length of time it has been running. 5 A. with engine off. Goes up to about 7 with engine on and has high as 9 when the engine runs longer. The list wisdom was that over 5 A and the fuel pump is toast also. I have a fuel pump on the way. Haven't been able to find a used FP relay so for. I have an old 7 or so panel ammeter from an old basic electricity trainer. It has banana plugs attached. The banana plugs fit perfectly into the 30 and 86 holes of the relay socket. makes it really easy to test the pump amp draw. (once I finally found the relay!) Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] funny
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:15:33 -0700 Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Kaleb, I agree with Luther.. What's funny? Chuck On Apr 29, 2008, at 9:49 PM, Luther wrote: Funny how?? Flinstone mobile? I think Kaleb was talking about the hole in the floor behind the driver. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bad vibration
Dan, What kind of money did they want to balance a shaft? I have had prices of $700 to 900, and I am too cheap to spend that much. 900 is getting close to a Rusty price for a new drive shaft I think. These are the guys. They're more into truck and heavy equipment stuff, but they did a good job and worked with me to get it right. Florida Powertrain Hydraulics Inc 6501 Adamo Dr | Tampa, FL 33619 PH: (813) 623-6713 | FX: (813) 623-6713 archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you recall the name of the drive shaft repair place in Tampa, Dan? I have a vibration at speeds over about 55mph on my '83 300D which I hope will be cured by replacing a bad axle and noisy differential. The differential I got locally was unbolted at the flex disc which looks newer than the one on the car. Are there any kind of alignment marks or special things to watch out for if I just bolt the drive shaft on to the flex disc that's already mounted on the differential? Thanks, Gerry '83 300D and 240D -- From: LWB250 I had a 250LWB, which is a 123 chassis that's been stretched (by the factory) for use as a taxi. This particular chassis, due to the length, has a three piece drive shaft, meaning two flex disk, two center bearings, and three sections. I don't recall what precipitated the problem, but it developed (or may have had it when I got it) vibration at certain speeds. I found a bum center bearing and carrier and replaced it. No joy. I replaced the second center bearing and carrier. Still no relief. I RR'ed it, checked the marks, reassembled, nada. This took place over the course of several months. By the final time I RR'ed the whole thing (I was getting really good at it!) I found what I suspected was a bad U joint. Knowing that the process for replacing MB U joints was a very specialized one, I went to my local drive shaft repair house and talked to them about it. Heck, there's nothing special about that - we do it all the time! They had to ship it to their Miami location, since the shop here in Tampa didn't have a balancer that could handle the length of my shaft. No additional charge to do this, just a couple of days and it was back. I get the shaft in pieces, load it up, take it home and lay it out on the garage floor for reassembly. Guess what? They didn't put match marks on the pieces. Damn. I called them up and was assured that it didn't matter, as they had balanced it as separate sections as well as a complete shaft. What? They also said that if I installed it and it still had vibration to bring it back, they would rebalance it, and send it back with match marks. That's ultimately what happened. A real PITA, but after nearly two years I didn't have this horrendous vibration around 10 mph that sounded like it was going to tear open the floor just above the second center bearing. I still have a box of the locknuts for the flex disk bolts as a reminder Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Selling 87 300D
I can send some out tomorrow. For now check the link in my first post Bob On 4/30/08, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob, Got Pictures? At 06:45 PM 4/30/2008, you wrote: I posted this up last week on the Super tubo site and thought I would spam my good friends here too. This OM603 powered W124 would make a good starting point for a super turbo project. It was the original diesel Hot Rod and held the fastest diesel production car in the US for years. I hate to let it go but I've got to face facts that I will not be able to give it the attention it deserves. There is some right front corner and bumper damage, but it did not effect the engine compartment or core support. 23 mi Runs and shifts well. It still has a #14 head but has never overheated or built reservoir pressure overnight. Under duress from swmbo teenage son drove this car for eight months. So the interior shows wear (door panels armrests) also right front damage. The wife and I drove and loved this car for years and it was well maintained. Now it breaks my heart to see it. I'm offering it to my super turbo friends before it goes to Craigs list. $1800. http://www.schumanautomotive.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6320 Bob D. Parrish, FL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OK Don has a new car
hell, why did I let you talk me out of that car? OK Don wrote: Back to the subject line - '92 300D 2.5 turbo from Kaleb - the first tank (actually a half tank), over 280 miles, 180 of which was 75 mph highway, the rest mixed town and commuting, yeilded 35 mpg. Very nice! I don't expect this to be accurate, the sample was too small, I filled at different stations, etc., but it's probably ball park. What a great car! The ACC is a little schzoid, but it probably just needs a PBU re-solder job. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
