Re: [MBZ] Wrong
Guess Gmail isn't the second coming after all. My old school text based mailer saw 2016 as well. On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 10:53:57PM -0500, OK Don wrote: This is Gmail - my PC said 8:ish - agreeing with Kaleb's statement, but not his header time stamp. I wonder if the others seeing 'off' times from Kalebs emails are also using Gmail? On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 10:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the time stamp on your email says it's 9:16 -- On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: its 8:16 right now when I sent 20:16:13 is twenty-hundred hours which is 8PM in my world. Not 9:16, OK Don. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wrong
Nope, Opera here. On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 22:53:57 -0500, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is Gmail - my PC said 8:ish - agreeing with Kaleb's statement, but not his header time stamp. I wonder if the others seeing 'off' times from Kalebs emails are also using Gmail? On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 10:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the time stamp on your email says it's 9:16 -- On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: its 8:16 right now when I sent 20:16:13 is twenty-hundred hours which is 8PM in my world. Not 9:16, OK Don. RLE -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] June 6, 1944
LarryT wrote: I wonder what the world would be like if we were in the same situation today? Fighting Hitler and Tojo at the same time and kids could not volunteer fast enough. I used to think that the draft was pointless. If we really need to go to war, the men will be there. If your government wants your youth to die so it can police the planet, then the government needs fixing. Now I read the newspaper and wonder if USA has any men left. I don't know who/what to blame for the apparent changes in our culture, but the public education system sure isn't helping. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody else get this?
- Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] pretty much. prices drop and they uphold the contract and make lots of money. prices rise, and they go broke and make a lot of money. it looks like nonsense from here as well On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't help but think its a scam. They will reap all their money now and close the doors as soon as they start losing money. -Rolf - (From another list:) There is a lot of chatter about speculators driving up crude prices I don't doubt that some speculation goes on but how do we know how much? And how much influence does this have on retail prices? Oil futures are thought to be a major field for hedge funds. Not re-assuring. And even lone speculators can operate off a computer which can be located anywhere on earth so it is hard to regulate by law or taxation There are opinions everywhere on speculation but few reliable data D It is more than chatter. Think about it. If oil prices were set by discussions that only included those who pump oil and those who refine it, the price would be very different than the current situation where oil is purchased and re-sold by all sorts of entities that have no ability to actually accept delivery of the product they are buying. The futures market concept simply brings a lot more players to the table, and that means more volatility in prices, mostly upwards. These futures are sold and resold many times, and ultimately the refiners have to pay whatever price the last holder of the future wants. It seems to me that it would be in the USA's interest to ban the practice. OPEC of course does not mind selling oil to some guy on Wall Street who doesn't know shit about refining it (nor does he have the equipment) instead of selling at a lower price to some refinery in Texas. And the refinery in Texas doesn't mind that the guy on Wall Street bought the oil from Saudi and they have to buy from him at a higher price because they just pass the cost along to the consumer. C Speculators can operate from any country How can US ban their activity? D It would have to be a coordinated international regulation in order to work. Alternatively, if the refineries worked together, they could surprise the futures traders by suddenly not buying from them. Then a bunch of oil would get delivered to those Wall Street parasites. That would teach them. I would love to see a few hundred 18 wheelers pull up to the stock exchange and a few hundred drivers shout at those stuffed suits where the hell do you want us to put your oil! C Note: C is an American executive working in Europe and D is a retired engineer. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] June 6, 1944
A LARGE number of my brother's men on Omaha beach were 17 years old - 'jumnped of the boat as boys and in a few minutes became REAL men.. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 124 evapectomy
'Need to remove ign/master lock to get evaporator box out. Locking bolt (one that holds the lock assembly in place, not the steering lock) is VERY LOOSE; key is in posit 1; release pin will not depress to allow withdrawal of the assembly. Tips? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel Jetta
That's a good deal for that car. I had one--got 43 mpg @65 on the highway. Very nice drivers, but quite noisy. Also prone to cracked heads. Not terribly easy to work on. That said, well worth the asking price. Dan On Jun 6, 2008, at 11:17 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1991 Diesel Jetta 1.6 ONLY 138,000 miles Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008-06-06, 8:34PM This was our daily driver for the last 2 years. I have a bunch of info and picts I can email to you if interested. A true 40 mpg car. Obviously great gas mileage! Note, NOT a TDI - We decided to set a price but fee free to make an offer as we need this sold soon. $1,500 OBCO. * This item has been posted by-owner. * Location: airport * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://stlouis.craigslist.org/car/710620940.html -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fw: 124 evapectomy
'Got it out! 'Knew it had to be something simple! Key was NOT COMPLETELY into posit one. Release pin depressed very easily after key was REALLY in posit one. There's VERY close clearance getting the lock mechanism out; 'takes some maneuvering of the mechanism; MB built a rubber wall section into evap box to accomodate removal of the lock mechanism. Wilton - Original Message - From: Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 9:26 AM Subject: 124 evapectomy 'Need to remove ign/master lock to get evaporator box out. Locking bolt (one that holds the lock assembly in place, not the steering lock) is VERY LOOSE; key is in posit 1; release pin will not depress to allow withdrawal of the assembly. Tips? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 124 evapectomy
'Having trouble getting small elec plug on left side of evap box above accelerator disconnected. 'Very hard to even see it well enough to tell where and what type the holding clips are and harder to get a good grip on it. If I grip it with channel locks, I'm 'fraid I'll break something critical. 'Tried studying it with mirror, obviously not well enough yet. Any tips, descriptions, etc., about this elec junction/plug. Sun on the car is making me take another break from the evapectomy; 'just cut weeds in front yard. Temp's going to 102F here today!! Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] euro 2008 about to kick off
swiss and czech open in basel in a few minutes ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] June 6, 1944
Now I read the newspaper and wonder if USA has any men left. I don't know who/what to blame for the apparent changes in our culture, but the public education system sure isn't helping. Mitch. Lyrics From Brad Paisley's I'm Still A Guy These days there's dudes getting facials Manicured, waxed and botoxed With deep spray-on tans and creamy lotiony hands You can't grip a tacklebox Yeah with all of these men lining up to get neutered It's hip now to be feminized I don't highlight my hair I've still got a pair Yeah honey, I'm still a guy Oh my eyebrows ain't plucked There's a gun in my truck Oh thank God, I'm still a guy Amen. Caveats, YMMV My 2¢ Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wrong
nor i; time stamp in Kalebs e-mail was an hour off from what he said here on mine, too; using Thunderbird an a MacBook. of course, he could just be messing with us,... ;-) cheers! e Craig McCluskey wrote: On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 22:53:57 -0500 OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is Gmail - my PC said 8:ish - agreeing with Kaleb's statement, but not his header time stamp. I wonder if the others seeing 'off' times from Kalebs emails are also using Gmail? Not I. Sylpheed on Fedora Core 4. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Car For Dan
Since he's moving back to Indy anyway, might as well buy a new one when he gets here... http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/car/703030610.html Not Mine, No Affiliation, ect. Rick Knoble '87 190DT '85 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car For Dan
Greenwood is the town I used to live in, and my brother and Mom still live there... No need for a car - I get a company vehicle when I arrive. Nice. No car payment, but new car (probably a truck or SUV of some sort, no doubt a domestic one, but WTF? It's free.) Dan --- Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since he's moving back to Indy anyway, might as well buy a new one when he gets here... http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/car/703030610.html Not Mine, No Affiliation, ect. Rick Knoble '87 190DT '85 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] something to make you laugh :)
http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/nyc/648410240.html 3 AC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Ha, wrong list!
What can I say? I caught it from Curt. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W124 300D rough start
My W124 300D has a slight roughness/ engine speed wouble for the first 5 sec after a cold start - otherwise smooth. HAve checked injector spray pattern and balanced pressures. Checked glowplugs all draw +_18A. Is this normal? - i have a friend that has the same phenomenen. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 300D rough start
Carboned up prechamber? Needs Italian tune-up? On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My W124 300D has a slight roughness/ engine speed wouble for the first 5 sec after a cold start - otherwise smooth. HAve checked injector spray pattern and balanced pressures. Checked glowplugs all draw +_18A. Is this normal? - i have a friend that has the same phenomenen. Peter -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] diesel jetta
Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1991 Diesel Jetta 1.6 ONLY 138,000 miles I think this motor has about 48HP. Just be forewarned. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 190D 2.2 v 2.5
How many hp is the 2.2, how many is the 2.5? What kind of mileage does the 2.5 get? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] DeKalb, TX
Anybody close to this place, or know someone who lives there? Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D 2.2 v 2.5
2.2 - 72hp - 2601lb TDM says 7.5 city, 5.6 @90km/h 7.3 @ 120km/h. 0-100km/h=18.6sec, max speed=97mph 2.5 - 90hp - 2712lb, TDM says 8.3 city, 6.0 @90km/h 7.7 @ 120km/h., 0-100km/h=15.1sec, max speed - 105mph - For comparison, the 300D 2.5 turbo is rated at 9.2city, 6.0 @90km/h 7.9 @ 120km/h. 0-100=12.3, max speed=121 wt. = 3160lb, hp=123 Fuel useage is in litres per xxxkm. WHere I think xxx=100, but I'm not sure. On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How many hp is the 2.2, how many is the 2.5? What kind of mileage does the 2.5 get? -- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D 2.2 v 2.5
What kind of mileage does the 2.5 get? Ours, with a stick, is getting about 33 in town, and 39 on the highway. That's low, I think the timing is a bit off. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D 2.2 v 2.5
wonder what an auto would get. I have a 2.2 right now, and with my old 2.2 auto I got about 36 with it. Fixing to go get a 86 2.5, just wondered what it would do Jim Cathey wrote: What kind of mileage does the 2.5 get? Ours, with a stick, is getting about 33 in town, and 39 on the highway. That's low, I think the timing is a bit off. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy
At least you are regularly reminded why the AC is important. Can't imagine that sort of job. We are all rooting for you, and I am especially glad it is you and not me. BillR Temp's going to 102F here today!! Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy
On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 09:26:41 -0400 Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'Need to remove ign/master lock to get evaporator box out. Locking bolt (one that holds the lock assembly in place, not the steering lock) is VERY LOOSE; key is in posit 1; release pin will not depress to allow withdrawal of the assembly. Tips? I replaced the lock assembly on our W123 and don't recall having much trouble. How about pushing on the locking pin and turning the key back and forth until the pin goes in? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Hard on the nerves - my steering locks-up in transit
Hi good people Increasingly often of late, the steering on my (RHD) 1985 300TD has locked up momentarily, usually when I'm turning right. Once when turning left. After one particularly unnerving lock-up in heavy traffic, I was not alone in my trousers, I can tell you! My guess is that the problem is related to a worn-out ignition/steering lock. But I'm keen to know if anyone has a different explanation. If it's the lock mechanism, I assume that MB supplies customised replacements, so I don't have to replace all four locks on the wagon? Cheers Euan CHCH NZ 1985 300TD 5-spd manual 206K mi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] that'll give him the mandate he deserves = now list
Donald, I think Chuck Hagel may pull the lever for Obama - especially if he's chosen as the running mate (he's currently a very dark horse). You should keep an open mind... On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 12:44 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew wrote: Donald, I actually regard you as a non-doctrinaire conservative, the list's Chuck Hagel, as it were.. Thanks, I think. Better than being the list's Dan Quayle. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Carfax?
I'm in Virginia (with my dad, Kevin), looking at a used BMW 318i for me. Does anyone have an active carfax account so we can make sure it's a whole car and not two halves? WBAAJ9310MEJ00874 Thanks in advance. --Jay Former driver of the poorly-timed-in-its-demise '79 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hard on the nerves - my steering locks-up in transit
If it's a worn out lock interlock then you should hear a click as you turn the wheel the click will always be in the same spot. Also, the steering will tend to lock up in the same spots. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Euan Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 6:14 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Hard on the nerves - my steering locks-up in transit Hi good people Increasingly often of late, the steering on my (RHD) 1985 300TD has locked up momentarily, usually when I'm turning right. Once when turning left. After one particularly unnerving lock-up in heavy traffic, I was not alone in my trousers, I can tell you! My guess is that the problem is related to a worn-out ignition/steering lock. But I'm keen to know if anyone has a different explanation. If it's the lock mechanism, I assume that MB supplies customised replacements, so I don't have to replace all four locks on the wagon? Cheers Euan CHCH NZ 1985 300TD 5-spd manual 206K mi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.0.0/1488 - Release Date: 6/6/2008 5:48 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.0.0/1488 - Release Date: 6/6/2008 5:48 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Diesel Jetta
On Jun 7, 2008, at 6:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1991 Diesel Jetta 1.6 ONLY 138,000 miles I think this motor has about 48HP. Just be forewarned. 52, actually. It's fine. No hot rod, but quicker than a 240D, especially with the five-speed. Dan Who owned one ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hard on the nerves - my steering locks-up in transit
Increasingly often of late, the steering on my (RHD) 1985 300TD has locked up momentarily... Yikes! Are you sure it's the key lock mechanism? (Seems likely.) It'd feel just like if you locked it on purpose. Something deeper in the system, much less likely and perhaps impossible, would feel different to the hand. Anyway, that's a fairly straightforward replacement, and (here anyway) you can get a new code-cut tumbler to go with it. (The malfunctioning steering lock is separate from the key portion, and you needn't replace both unless you wish to. Probably a good idea, though. You could keep the tumbler portion as a spare. Go for the hat trick and get a new key too.) Is the tip of the key still in place? That's what holds the mechanism away from engaging, and its removal is what drops the pin against the column. You're staring right at Death there, I'd want to have that problem fully explained and resolved immediately, preferably before ever driving it again. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Hard on the nerves - steering locks up
Euan, this is the first I've heard of steering locking up on the steering column in flight - 'happens often when trying to unlock while sitting still and is usually cleared by vigorous shaking of the wheel while turning the key This, though, is a much more serious and dangerous problem than what I'm talking about. 'Not only nerve wracking - 'can kill you and/or somebody. Please, don't drive it any more 'til it's fixed!! Are you sure it's locking there on the steering column, or somewhere else in the steering system. I guess the locking mechanism on the column could get worn enough in some way that it's possible. If the problem is with locking/keyed mechanism on the column, it can be easily replaced. MB supplies replacement units for it and/or for doors with original keying - in other words, you can get new lock cylinders and entire lock assemblies that use original (same as) keys. Dealer needs VIN and proof of ownership to provide lock with original keying. ' Good luck with it! Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D 2.2 v 2.5
wonder what an auto would get. I have a 2.2 right now, and with my old 2.2 auto I got about 36 with it. Fixing to go get a 86 2.5, just wondered what it would do Ours used to get 42 on highway trips. It's now down in auto territory IMHO. On the plus side it doesn't vomit gouts of oil down the side of the engine anymore! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hard on the nerves - my steering locks-up in transit
This is usually a symptom of a badly adjusted steering box. Have you adjusted the play on it recently? Is the steering wheel unusually hard to turn? I don't have the specs at hand for how much torque should be required to turn the wheel but when adjusting the steering box there is a special adapter that goes on the steering wheel to measure the amount of force required to turn it. The steering lock should only engage when the key is in the off position and once locked should stay locked until the key is turned. It might be time to source a S/H steering box because once they start to lock up they are rooted (the yanks won't know what I mean here and think I am cheering your box) and will need an overhaul, which costs mucho dollars, I think the other day someone on the ozbenz list mentioned 500 beans to rebuild a box. MB ALSO RECOMMENDS AS PART OF NORMAL SERVICE PROCEDURE TO ENSURE THAT THE BOLTS HOLDING THE STEERING BOX TO THE BODY ARE CHECKED REGULARLY this would mean that the bolts have been known to come loose. I generally check those bolts when I check the front brakes, takes 2 seconds. I would also check your ball joints to ensure they are all good. Hendrik who lives on the west island Euan wrote: Hi good people Increasingly often of late, the steering on my (RHD) 1985 300TD has locked up momentarily, usually when I'm turning right. Once when turning left. After one particularly unnerving lock-up in heavy traffic, I was not alone in my trousers, I can tell you! My guess is that the problem is related to a worn-out ignition/steering lock. But I'm keen to know if anyone has a different explanation. If it's the lock mechanism, I assume that MB supplies customised replacements, so I don't have to replace all four locks on the wagon? Cheers Euan CHCH NZ 1985 300TD 5-spd manual 206K mi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hard on the nerves - my steering locks-up in transit
Never had that one happen, but your description is right up there with stuff I don't want to ever find out about. Good luck with that one - and maybe you would like to take the bus/bike/walk/crawl/taxi/hitchhike until you figure it out?? BillR Jacksonville FL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Euan Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 7:14 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Hard on the nerves - my steering locks-up in transit Hi good people Increasingly often of late, the steering on my (RHD) 1985 300TD has locked up momentarily, usually when I'm turning right. Once when turning left. After one particularly unnerving lock-up in heavy traffic, I was not alone in my trousers, I can tell you! My guess is that the problem is related to a worn-out ignition/steering lock. But I'm keen to know if anyone has a different explanation. If it's the lock mechanism, I assume that MB supplies customised replacements, so I don't have to replace all four locks on the wagon? Cheers Euan CHCH NZ 1985 300TD 5-spd manual 206K mi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hard on the nerves - steering locks up
On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 19:54:24 -0400 Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the problem is with locking/keyed mechanism on the column, it can be easily replaced. MB supplies replacement units for it and/or for doors with original keying - in other words, you can get new lock cylinders and entire lock assemblies that use original (same as) keys. Dealer needs VIN and proof of ownership to provide lock with original keying. In order to eliminate some possible confusion, let me define some terms: - lock cylinder: the part into which the key goes and what turns when the key is turned. - locking mechanism: the part into which the lock cylinder is assembled. This part contains the pin that extends when the key is removed to keep the steering wheel from turning. On the back of this is fastened the electrical switch which controls the starter and other electrical things. The lock cylinder turns parts inside the locking mechanism, which then turn the electrical switch as well as retract the steering wheel locking pin. The lock cylinder is what you need a VIN and (here in the States, at least) proof of ownership to purchase. When the VIN is supplied, it will come keyed to match the rest of the locks on the car. I doubt the lock cylinder is the problem. The locking mechanism can be purchased like any other part on the car; no VIN needed -- they're all the same. It's possible the steering-wheel-locking-pin-retracting mechanism is malfunctioning. It's also possible, as Wilton said, that something else is amiss. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Hard on the nerves -steering lock
I vote with Hendrik - steering box. 'Replaced it on my 81 300D 8 YRS ago. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D 2.2 v 2.5
the numbers form the TDM are all for auto tranny cars. On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wonder what an auto would get. I have a 2.2 right now, and with my old 2.2 auto I got about 36 with it. Fixing to go get a 86 2.5, just wondered what it would do -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] June 6, 1944
I like to listen to country-western music now - before I listened to 50s 60s stuff. I've found with the CW music the songs haves such emotion in them sometimes I have to back off. Some are incredibly sad - other very patriotic, some funny and some happy. I guess the music on the popular stations have similarily talented writers but the CW has the edge on emotions. IMHO of course. ;-) Take care -- Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] June 6, 1944 Now I read the newspaper and wonder if USA has any men left. I don't know who/what to blame for the apparent changes in our culture, but the public education system sure isn't helping. Mitch. Lyrics From Brad Paisley's I'm Still A Guy These days there's dudes getting facials Manicured, waxed and botoxed With deep spray-on tans and creamy lotiony hands You can't grip a tacklebox Yeah with all of these men lining up to get neutered It's hip now to be feminized I don't highlight my hair I've still got a pair Yeah honey, I'm still a guy Oh my eyebrows ain't plucked There's a gun in my truck Oh thank God, I'm still a guy Amen. Caveats, YMMV My 2¢ Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] June 6, 1944
Wilton, Who (what service) *drove* the boats that delivered the folks to the beach? On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I turned 10 four days after my brother, Lewis, and others of that finest of generations stormed onto/into France. I was not quite 8 when another brother, Jerry, helped to deliver Doolittle's men and 16 B-25's on the carrier, Hornet, to within striking distance of Japan. I was 11 when another brother, Carson, rode a halftrack into Germany in '45, about the same time Lewis, as Chief-of-the-Boat delivered troops, supplies during the invasion of Okinawa. (Okinawa, is that spelled right? 'Doesn't look right.) There's no way that we can ever thank that finest of generations for saving the world from Hitler and Tojo and their henchmen. Humbly, Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody else get this?
You wrote I would love to see a few hundred 18 wheelers pull up to the stock exchange and a few hundred drivers shout at those stuffed suits where the hell do It doesn't work that way. They'd just sell it at a price and lose money before they'd risk delivery. I lost $3000 on an education in the commodities market - buying long, buying short - until my $3k was gone. Bought $1200 Heating Oil contracts and they were worthless a week later. That was $1200 gone and all I had was a piece of paper saying I'd bought some oil at a price I hoped the oil would be at in a month or more - but during the week in between my buying and my end date the price dipped - and my $1200 was gone. There's no way me buying a futures contract in oiol can make it go higher or lower. I keep hearing how people/speculators are driving the price of oil up but I still don't see how that's possible. Why haven't they done it before now? Why not do it with *all* the commodities? Get a WSJ and look at the commodities section - IIRC it covered at least 4 pages of incredibly small print. Because it doesn't work that way. Unless someone is getting secret info before hand or colluding with a whole group of people - which would mean we'll be seeing a bunch of people going to jail for a long time. It's illegal to manipulate stocks and I bet the gov agencies that oversee these things are looking very closely at anyone making a lot of money on oil futures. Anytime they make $600 and up it gets reported to the IRS. There may be other parts of the govt that does a poor job but the IRS isn't one of them. True, they may act excessively and perhaps illegally even, but few people cheat on their taxes and get away with it -for very long - especially if there's a significant amount of money involved - and to move the oil market one way or the other would take billions of $$s - all of which would be at risk - they could lose those $$s pretty easily. All it takes is a *rumor* that says a new oil field has been found, - Boom - the spot market plunges and those billions are gone POOF! And it happens in the other direction also - if the investor bets the price will go down and there's a rumor of the Israeli's attacking Syria, another POOF! and again, the moneys gone - ALL gone. If it were possible, people would have been doing it for years - and with all the commodities. Take care -- Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 7:33 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody else get this? - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] pretty much. prices drop and they uphold the contract and make lots of money. prices rise, and they go broke and make a lot of money. it looks like nonsense from here as well On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't help but think its a scam. They will reap all their money now and close the doors as soon as they start losing money. -Rolf - (From another list:) There is a lot of chatter about speculators driving up crude prices I don't doubt that some speculation goes on but how do we know how much? And how much influence does this have on retail prices? Oil futures are thought to be a major field for hedge funds. Not re-assuring. And even lone speculators can operate off a computer which can be located anywhere on earth so it is hard to regulate by law or taxation There are opinions everywhere on speculation but few reliable data D It is more than chatter. Think about it. If oil prices were set by discussions that only included those who pump oil and those who refine it, the price would be very different than the current situation where oil is purchased and re-sold by all sorts of entities that have no ability to actually accept delivery of the product they are buying. The futures market concept simply brings a lot more players to the table, and that means more volatility in prices, mostly upwards. These futures are sold and resold many times, and ultimately the refiners have to pay whatever price the last holder of the future wants. It seems to me that it would be in the USA's interest to ban the practice. OPEC of course does not mind selling oil to some guy on Wall Street who doesn't know shit about refining it (nor does he have the equipment) instead of selling at a lower price to some refinery in Texas. And the refinery in Texas doesn't mind that the guy on Wall Street bought the oil from Saudi and they have to buy from him at a higher price because they just pass the cost along to the consumer. C
Re: [MBZ] Diesel Jetta
Yeah, that will actually run right along with our 220D manual. Probably faster on the top end by a mile thoughlol Mike On Jun 7, 2008, at 6:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1991 Diesel Jetta 1.6 ONLY 138,000 miles I think this motor has about 48HP. Just be forewarned. 52, actually. It's fine. No hot rod, but quicker than a 240D, especially with the five-speed. Dan Who owned one ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Carfax?
Report Run Date: 06/07/2008 The vehicle identification number you submitted has been analyzed and summary information on your car is shown below. AutoCheck Unlimited with TitleGuard - Optional upgrade for just $25.00 more! Protect your investment against title problems. Add TitleGuard protections to your unlimited 60-day AutoCheck subscription. VIN: WBAAJ9310MEJ00874 Year: 1991 Make: BMW Model: 3-Series 318i Style/Body: Sedan 4D Class: Upscale - Near Luxury Engine: 1.8L I4 EFI Country of Assembly: Germany Vehicle Age: 17 year(s) Calculated Owners: 5 Last Reported Odometer Reading: 101,584 This vehicle's AutoCheck Score 29 16-40 This vehicle qualifies for Buyback Protection About Buyback Protection Section summaries Title and ProblemCheck:Your vehicle checks out! OdometerCheck:Your vehicle checks out! Vehicle Use and EventCheck:Specific vehicle use(s) or events reported Full History:Detailed information available Title and ProblemCheck Your Vehicle Checks Out! AutoCheck's database for this 1991 BMW 3-Series 318i (WBAAJ9310MEJ00874) shows no negative titles or other problems. When reported to AutoCheck, these events can indicate serious past damage or other significant problems. 0 Problem(s) Reported: 15 Title/Problem areas checked: No abandoned title record No damaged title or major damage incident record No fire damaged title record No grey market title record No hail damage title record No insurance loss title record No junk or scrapped title record No manufacturer buyback/lemon title record No odometer problem title record No rebuilt/rebuildable title record No salvage title or salvage auction record No water damaged title record No NHTSA crash test record No frame damage record No recycling facility record OdometerCheck Your Vehicle Checks Out! AutoCheck examined the reported odometer readings reported to AutoCheck for this 1991 BMW 3-Series 318i (WBAAJ9310MEJ00874) and no indication of an odometer rollback or tampering was found. AutoCheck uses business rules to determine if reported odometer readings are significantly less than previously reported values. Not all reported odometer readings are used. Title and auction events also report odometer tampering or breakage. 0 Problem(s) Reported: Mileage Date Reported 18,645 11/29/1992 40,094 05/22/2000 40,150 09/14/2000 42,654 09/28/2000 78,943 11/27/2004 88,480 11/03/2005 99,018 09/29/2007 101,584 02/14/2008 Vehicle Use and EventCheck Information Reported! AutoCheck shows additional information reported to AutoCheck about how this 1991 BMW 3-Series 318i (WBAAJ9310MEJ00874)has been used and other events. This includes reported accidents and corrected or duplicate titles and storm area registrations. 0 Event(s) Reported: 6 Vehicle uses checked: No fleet, rental and/or lease use record No taxi use record No police use record No government use record No livery use record No driver education record 1 Event(s) Reported: 9 Vehicle events checked: No accident record reported through state agencies or independent sources No corrected title record No duplicate title record Emission/safety inspection record(s) No loan/lien record No fire damage incident record No repossessed record No theft record No storm area registration/title record Full History Below are the historical events for this vehicle listed in chronological order. Any discrepancies will be in bold text. Report Run Date:: 06/07/2008 Vehicle: 1991 BMW 3-Series 318i (WBAAJ9310MEJ00874) Event date Location Odometer reading Data Source Details 11/29/1992 CHARLOTTE, NC 18,645 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:57001847993) 10/30/1997 CHARLOTTE, NC Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 10/14/1998 CHARLOTTE, NC Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 10/13/1999 CHARLOTTE, NC Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 05/22/2000 CHARLOTTE, NC 40,094 Independent Emission Source PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION 09/14/2000 LYNCHBURG, VA 40,150 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE 09/28/2000 LYNCHBURG, VA 42,654 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 08/28/2001 LYNCHBURG, VA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 08/22/2002 LYNCHBURG, VA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 07/28/2003 LYNCHBURG, VA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 10/22/2004 STOKESDALE, NC Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:773672042961024) REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 11/27/2004 HIGH POINT, NC 78,943 Independent Emission Source PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION 10/11/2005 STOKESDALE, NC Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 11/03/2005 GREENSBORO, NC 88,480 Independent Emission Source PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION 11/17/2006 HIGH POINT, NC Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 09/29/2007
Re: [MBZ] 190D 2.2 v 2.5
the numbers form the TDM are all for auto tranny cars. 'cause the only 2.5 manuals are home-built. (At least in the USA.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hard on the nerves -steering lock
I vote with Hendrik - steering box. 'Replaced it on my 81 300D 8 YRS ago. A locked box will feel different than a column lock. Hence the suggestion that he look into how it feels. Used steering boxes are pretty easy to come by here, and not usually too expensive. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D 2.2 v 2.5
really, there are no 2.5 (NA) 5 speeds? You sure about that? Jim Cathey wrote: the numbers form the TDM are all for auto tranny cars. 'cause the only 2.5 manuals are home-built. (At least in the USA.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] that'll give him the mandate he deserves = now list
Andrew wrote: Donald, I think Chuck Hagel may pull the lever for Obama - especially if he's chosen as the running mate (he's currently a very dark horse). You should keep an open mind... I do have an open mind. I am voting for John McCain. I wanted Fred Thompson or Mitt Romney. My mind is open enough to vote for John McCain. I can envision no possible scenario that involve me voting for Obama. Unless, I only had to choose between Maxine Waters or Charles Schumer, then I would vote for Obama. OR, I would write in Mitt Romney. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] June 6, 1944
US Navy and US Coast Guard. How many or what percentage of each I don't know, but, yes, Wonko, your service was there en mass, too - likely a large percentage. Wilton - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] June 6, 1944 Wilton, Who (what service) *drove* the boats that delivered the folks to the beach? On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I turned 10 four days after my brother, Lewis, and others of that finest of generations stormed onto/into France. I was not quite 8 when another brother, Jerry, helped to deliver Doolittle's men and 16 B-25's on the carrier, Hornet, to within striking distance of Japan. I was 11 when another brother, Carson, rode a halftrack into Germany in '45, about the same time Lewis, as Chief-of-the-Boat delivered troops, supplies during the invasion of Okinawa. (Okinawa, is that spelled right? 'Doesn't look right.) There's no way that we can ever thank that finest of generations for saving the world from Hitler and Tojo and their henchmen. Humbly, Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D 2.2 v 2.5
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: really, there are no 2.5 (NA) 5 speeds? You sure about that? I think they are fairly common, right up there with 2.6 5 speeds and hens' teeth. Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if 5% of the 2.5s were 5 speed. Probably more like 2% for the 190E 2.6. Where's Marshall and his pile of reference books when you need him? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D 2.2 v 2.5
I see in the TDM that there are specs for manual tranny 201.126 (2.5) cars in the US in '86 '87, but not in '88 or '89. I see fuel consumption specs for the 2.2 in 4sp, 5sp, and auto; the 2.5 in 5sp and auto. Countries aren't specified in this table. On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: really, there are no 2.5 (NA) 5 speeds? You sure about that? I think they are fairly common, right up there with 2.6 5 speeds and hens' teeth. Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if 5% of the 2.5s were 5 speed. Probably more like 2% for the 190E 2.6. Where's Marshall and his pile of reference books when you need him? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT alternative forms of voter franchise
Rich Thomas wrote: I would trade him for a dozen of the poor citizens in Indiana. That is just so lame. They ought to be disenfranchised. While I agree with everything you've written, Indiana has in fact effectively disenfranchised thousands of poor and Amish via the Voter ID Law. http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/28/scotus.voter.id/ My mom tried to get a driver's license and register to vote there last year. Sorry ma'am, but your birth certificate and Social Security card show a different (maiden) name so no suffrage for you. Oh, and this West Virginia driver's license you showed me isn't valid here, either, as you can't prove that you're really you. Next! It took a while, but eventually they invented new middle and last names for her and issued the proper papers. Scary. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] June 6, 1944
An overwhelming majority. I am sorry for ranting -- we sort of get left out of the reporting of what happened that historical day. And to be honest, the Coasties who survived the drop-off went back to the mother-ship, grabbed a cup of coffee, took a shower, and *then* reflected on what had happened -- and most likely had to run for an extended time in the head. (For you non-sailors, the head is the toilet.) Actually, I think he overwhelming majority (approaching 100%) of the folks driving the landing vehicles were USCG. After all, it was supposed to be shallow water! :-) I will have to research that. On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 9:59 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: US Navy and US Coast Guard. How many or what percentage of each I don't know, but, yes, Wonko, your service was there en mass, too - likely a large percentage. Wilton - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] June 6, 1944 Wilton, Who (what service) *drove* the boats that delivered the folks to the beach? On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I turned 10 four days after my brother, Lewis, and others of that finest of generations stormed onto/into France. I was not quite 8 when another brother, Jerry, helped to deliver Doolittle's men and 16 B-25's on the carrier, Hornet, to within striking distance of Japan. I was 11 when another brother, Carson, rode a halftrack into Germany in '45, about the same time Lewis, as Chief-of-the-Boat delivered troops, supplies during the invasion of Okinawa. (Okinawa, is that spelled right? 'Doesn't look right.) There's no way that we can ever thank that finest of generations for saving the world from Hitler and Tojo and their henchmen. Humbly, Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] June 6, 1944
Some really good pics here. Of course, this all happened a long time (8 years) before I was born. http://www.uscg.mil/history/Normandy_Index.asp D. On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 10:27 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An overwhelming majority. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] June 6, 1944
Don, Thanks for that link. Truly, all were heroes that day! Chuck Phoenix AZ On Jun 7, 2008, at 8:31 PM, Wonko the Sane wrote: Some really good pics here. Of course, this all happened a long time (8 years) before I was born. http://www.uscg.mil/history/Normandy_Index.asp D. On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 10:27 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An overwhelming majority. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] June 6, 1944
That's why you gotta play CW backwards. Hendrik LarryT wrote: I like to listen to country-western music now - before I listened to 50s 60s stuff. I've found with the CW music the songs haves such emotion in them sometimes I have to back off. Some are incredibly sad - other very patriotic, some funny and some happy. I guess the music on the popular stations have similarily talented writers but the CW has the edge on emotions. IMHO of course. ;-) Take care -- Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] that'll give him the mandate he deserves = now list
I wanted Fred Thompson or Mitt Romney. I just watched Fred Thompson in the movie In The Line Of Fire recently. I thought he was a good enough actor to win the presidency. I guess telling it like it is didn't win him enough votes... Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody else get this?
I think it has been discussed before and the conclusion was that refining capacity is the main problem. Apparently there are tankers full of crude sitting in the Persian gulf but the refineries have plenty of crude to process. Our local refinery shut down a few years ago because it was not economical anymore, may well be now but needs millions spent on it to get up to modern standards. I would suppose the Chinese are busy building refineries but any capacity they have will be sucked up by their economic boom. Hendrik LarryT wrote: You wrote I would love to see a few hundred 18 wheelers pull up to the stock exchange and a few hundred drivers shout at those stuffed suits where the hell do It doesn't work that way. They'd just sell it at a price and lose money before they'd risk delivery. I lost $3000 on an education in the commodities market - buying long, buying short - until my $3k was gone. Bought $1200 Heating Oil contracts and they were worthless a week later. That was $1200 gone and all I had was a piece of paper saying I'd bought some oil at a price I hoped the oil would be at in a month or more - but during the week in between my buying and my end date the price dipped - and my $1200 was gone. There's no way me buying a futures contract in oiol can make it go higher or lower. I keep hearing how people/speculators are driving the price of oil up but I still don't see how that's possible. Why haven't they done it before now? Why not do it with *all* the commodities? Get a WSJ and look at the commodities section - IIRC it covered at least 4 pages of incredibly small print. Because it doesn't work that way. Unless someone is getting secret info before hand or colluding with a whole group of people - which would mean we'll be seeing a bunch of people going to jail for a long time. It's illegal to manipulate stocks and I bet the gov agencies that oversee these things are looking very closely at anyone making a lot of money on oil futures. Anytime they make $600 and up it gets reported to the IRS. There may be other parts of the govt that does a poor job but the IRS isn't one of them. True, they may act excessively and perhaps illegally even, but few people cheat on their taxes and get away with it -for very long - especially if there's a significant amount of money involved - and to move the oil market one way or the other would take billions of $$s - all of which would be at risk - they could lose those $$s pretty easily. All it takes is a *rumor* that says a new oil field has been found, - Boom - the spot market plunges and those billions are gone POOF! And it happens in the other direction also - if the investor bets the price will go down and there's a rumor of the Israeli's attacking Syria, another POOF! and again, the moneys gone - ALL gone. If it were possible, people would have been doing it for years - and with all the commodities. Take care -- Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hard on the nerves -steering lock
Yes but I can't see how a steering lock can activate and deactivate by itself. Further I would presume that MB would not design a steering lock in such a way that this could happen, this is the stuff that civil suits are made up of. If there was a possibility that the steering lock could engage with the key in the on position, I am sure MB would have made a recall to protect itself from such an event unless the possibility is one in a billion, or this is the first time in history this has happened. Anyway this needs to be fixed ASAP and the car should not be driven. Steering box lock is well known within MB circles as being a problem in rare circumstances (usually caused by DIYers turning the adjustment too far, in order to get ALL the play out of the box). Hendrik whose 230E could do with a minor adjustment to firm up the steering a tad Jim Cathey wrote: I vote with Hendrik - steering box. 'Replaced it on my 81 300D 8 YRS ago. A locked box will feel different than a column lock. Hence the suggestion that he look into how it feels. Used steering boxes are pretty easy to come by here, and not usually too expensive. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT alternative forms of voter franchise
I took my daughter 3X to get her driver learner permit. She had a passport and a birth certificate, but they still demanded a Social Security card, which we could not find so had to go to the SS office to order up another one. They gave her an official temporary paper that said she had the number but the DL office would not take that. So a week or so later the real card came (it would have been easier to go to the flea market and just buy one like the guest workers do, but I digress) and we went time #3. I never did understand why you need a SS card when you have a passport and birth cert (which you have to have to get the passport). I think it is all a big circle jerk, probably aimed at weeding out the guest workers, most of whom don't appear to make the effort to get a DL anyway so it is rather pointless. Here in TX you can use your DL as a voter ID, or your voter registration card, which you can get when you get a DL. Anyway, the effort for the driving privilege was equivalent to the effort for a voter registration (which you get by default), and in some ways I guess it was A Good Thing, as it really validated that she was a citizen. Here in TX I did get to vote twice for Hillary!, stayin alive, stayin alive... but all the delegates went for Barry O anyway, even though she won more votes, so I guess it did not matter. Barry O, Selected Not Elected! --R tom savage wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: I would trade him for a dozen of the poor citizens in Indiana. That is just so lame. They ought to be disenfranchised. While I agree with everything you've written, Indiana has in fact effectively disenfranchised thousands of poor and Amish via the Voter ID Law. http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/28/scotus.voter.id/ My mom tried to get a driver's license and register to vote there last year. Sorry ma'am, but your birth certificate and Social Security card show a different (maiden) name so no suffrage for you. Oh, and this West Virginia driver's license you showed me isn't valid here, either, as you can't prove that you're really you. Next! It took a while, but eventually they invented new middle and last names for her and issued the proper papers. Scary. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody else get this?
Our number one cause for rising oil prices in this country is the shrinking dollar. As the US Dollar looses ground against the Euro, the cost of imports rise this includes the price of oil. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hendrik Fay Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 11:41 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody else get this? I think it has been discussed before and the conclusion was that refining capacity is the main problem. Apparently there are tankers full of crude sitting in the Persian gulf but the refineries have plenty of crude to process. Our local refinery shut down a few years ago because it was not economical anymore, may well be now but needs millions spent on it to get up to modern standards. I would suppose the Chinese are busy building refineries but any capacity they have will be sucked up by their economic boom. Hendrik LarryT wrote: You wrote I would love to see a few hundred 18 wheelers pull up to the stock exchange and a few hundred drivers shout at those stuffed suits where the hell do It doesn't work that way. They'd just sell it at a price and lose money before they'd risk delivery. I lost $3000 on an education in the commodities market - buying long, buying short - until my $3k was gone. Bought $1200 Heating Oil contracts and they were worthless a week later. That was $1200 gone and all I had was a piece of paper saying I'd bought some oil at a price I hoped the oil would be at in a month or more - but during the week in between my buying and my end date the price dipped - and my $1200 was gone. There's no way me buying a futures contract in oiol can make it go higher or lower. I keep hearing how people/speculators are driving the price of oil up but I still don't see how that's possible. Why haven't they done it before now? Why not do it with *all* the commodities? Get a WSJ and look at the commodities section - IIRC it covered at least 4 pages of incredibly small print. Because it doesn't work that way. Unless someone is getting secret info before hand or colluding with a whole group of people - which would mean we'll be seeing a bunch of people going to jail for a long time. It's illegal to manipulate stocks and I bet the gov agencies that oversee these things are looking very closely at anyone making a lot of money on oil futures. Anytime they make $600 and up it gets reported to the IRS. There may be other parts of the govt that does a poor job but the IRS isn't one of them. True, they may act excessively and perhaps illegally even, but few people cheat on their taxes and get away with it -for very long - especially if there's a significant amount of money involved - and to move the oil market one way or the other would take billions of $$s - all of which would be at risk - they could lose those $$s pretty easily. All it takes is a *rumor* that says a new oil field has been found, - Boom - the spot market plunges and those billions are gone POOF! And it happens in the other direction also - if the investor bets the price will go down and there's a rumor of the Israeli's attacking Syria, another POOF! and again, the moneys gone - ALL gone. If it were possible, people would have been doing it for years - and with all the commodities. Take care -- Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.0.0/1488 - Release Date: 6/6/2008 5:48 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.0.0/1488 - Release Date: 6/6/2008 5:48 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Kaleb - 300SDL
Kaleb, I need to know if you are still interested in trading for the 300SDL. If not then I need to try sell the car locally. Thanks, Tom Hargrave HYPERLINK http://www.kegkits.comwww.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.0.0/1488 - Release Date: 6/6/2008 5:48 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D 2.2 v 2.5
really, there are no 2.5 (NA) 5 speeds? You sure about that? No. But mine's the first I've seen, and I had to make it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
