Re: [MBZ] Kaleb - 300SDL
I would sell it locally, it doesnt look like Im going to be doing anything anytime soon. Tom Hargrave wrote: Kaleb, I need to know if you are still interested in trading for the 300SDL. If not then I need to try sell the car locally. Thanks, Tom Hargrave HYPERLINK http://www.kegkits.comwww.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.0.0/1488 - Release Date: 6/6/2008 5:48 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT alternative forms of voter franchise
Been thinking about this right to vote thing for a while. Best I can come up with is that if you are on the public dole for more than 2 months of the previous year or are a dependent of someone on the public dole for more than 2 months of the previous year then you should not be allowed to vote. That does not include the verifiably disabled which verification also needs to be tightened up to not include the morbidly obese (might help them to loose a few pounds). Why let freeloaders vote for someone who will help them live the life they want at everyone else's expense. Manfred Who's wife told him it is dangerous for him to think. Wonder what she means by that? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT alternative forms of voter franchise
dole for more than 2 months of the previous year then you should not be allowed to vote. That does not include the verifiably disabled I would not be quite so generous. IMHO, dole == no vote, and I'm so sorry if that's a trouble. If there are loopholes, the natural tendency is to open them up, defeating the whole purpose. In fact, I _just_ might be convinced to add those on public salary to the same list! Isn't the federal government now the largest single employer in existence? Have they reached self-sustaining critical mass yet? Vote for Johnson, keep your job! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] June 6, 1944
Another branch that gets little credit is the Merchant Marine. I need to check but I seem to recal hearing they lost more men to enemy action than any other. Some men were torpedoed and rescued by another ship in the convoy only to be sunk again - some men were sunk as many as 3 times in one voyage!Most of the ships were without much to shoot back with - and the Germans used long distance airplaces to bomb the ships. All those ships in the water off Normandy are part merchant ships and part warships - and the Germans were targeting the merchant ships as well as the warships. IIRC the Merchant Marine veterans had trouble taking advantage of the benefits promised to the other services. Eventually they were successful I believe.. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] June 6, 1944 US Navy and US Coast Guard. How many or what percentage of each I don't know, but, yes, Wonko, your service was there en mass, too - likely a large percentage. Wilton - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] June 6, 1944 Wilton, Who (what service) *drove* the boats that delivered the folks to the beach? On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I turned 10 four days after my brother, Lewis, and others of that finest of generations stormed onto/into France. I was not quite 8 when another brother, Jerry, helped to deliver Doolittle's men and 16 B-25's on the carrier, Hornet, to within striking distance of Japan. I was 11 when another brother, Carson, rode a halftrack into Germany in '45, about the same time Lewis, as Chief-of-the-Boat delivered troops, supplies during the invasion of Okinawa. (Okinawa, is that spelled right? 'Doesn't look right.) There's no way that we can ever thank that finest of generations for saving the world from Hitler and Tojo and their henchmen. Humbly, Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security
Even most Rs are less than thrilled with McCain, as he was not their first choice. On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 4:35 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got to wonder. Appears folks are not happy about many things right now - war, economy, house values, fuel prices etc. Wouldn't want to bet on the willingness of the people to reinstate the same thing. Happened in Canada last time with the Liberals. Only a minority Conservative government but no movement to change that at the moment. Liberals have not managed to rebound and the Conservatives have enough support to carry on for the moment. Your system is different enough that it may not matter. Democrats everywhere but the Whitehouse now. Not so sure that black or female makes much difference right now. Country is unhappy and Bush is taking the heat for it. McCain is just more Bush and that is not going to help him. If the Democrats don't self destruct, one would have to guess they may be successful. Randy on the outside looking in -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 6:55 AM To: 'mercedes@okiebenz.com' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security Randy wrote: We had all better hope for the best as he is likely the next president. I think this be just like 1972. Obama = McGovern. McCain will defeat him. Racism is still too prevalent to elect Obama. There is a reason HRC kept winning poor and middle class whites state after state. Many of those middle class whites have said that they will now vote for McCain. Reagan democrats can identify with more the liberal Republican rather than the Ultra-Liberal democrat. In fact, one you take away the activists from each party, I think most people who would identify themselves with McCain's policies and ideas. He is very much in the middle whereas Obama is FAR left out in Pelosi territory. That is why he will lose like Mcgovern did. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb - 300SDL
No problem - I'll list the car in the local Craigslist. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 8:21 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Kaleb - 300SDL I would sell it locally, it doesnt look like Im going to be doing anything anytime soon. Tom Hargrave wrote: Kaleb, I need to know if you are still interested in trading for the 300SDL. If not then I need to try sell the car locally. Thanks, Tom Hargrave HYPERLINK http://www.kegkits.comwww.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.0.0/1488 - Release Date: 6/6/2008 5:48 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.0.0/1489 - Release Date: 6/7/2008 11:17 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.0.0/1489 - Release Date: 6/7/2008 11:17 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] More shameless commerce
My 1983 300TD donor car (sans drivetrain) will go to the crusher next week. I removed most of the easily detachable hard parts yesterday. If you have a palomino interior let me know ASAP as the seats and door panels are all intact.so it would be a shame to see them go to waste. The vehicle resides in zip code 20850. Contact me offlist to negotiate for pieces or the whole thing. . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] June 6, 1944
Thanks, for the link to the Coast Guard stories/histories, Wonko/Don. My brother was delivered to Omaha beach on LCI(L) 88 operated by Coast Guard, as were most of them. Brother was second off left/port stairs/ramp into water to his chin at same time a shell hit the right/starboard ramp destroying it and many troops. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Hard on nerves - steering lock
I agree, Hendrik, it's highly unlikely that culprit is the keyed column lock. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1995 SL500 ASR ABS Lamp On
Wow! The 95 SL500 has dual rear axles! I want one even if the front rear wheel speed sensors are illogical. Manfred There I go thinking again. Or not. Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 20:24:57 -0400 From: Paul Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] 1995 SL500 ASR ABS Lamp On To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have an occasional ABS ASR Lamp come on when driving occasionally. When I turn the car off and back on it goes away for a while. Yesterday it came on and also noticed that the top didn't work and cruise didn't work. When I used my handy dandy LED tester on the car it had a code of 27 on it which when I looked it up in a document I found it said Rear front wheel speed sensors illogical which didn't make any sense to me. Anyone run into this situation and remedy? Regards Paul 1995 SL500 1985 380SL 1998 Corvette ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] June 6, 1944
The Navy beach battalions have gotten little credit, either, 'til very recently. I realize now that the men we occasionally see in photos and movies wearing helmets with an arc painted across the front were my brother's men - US Navy. We usually see them helping wounded, driving bulldozers, etc. Beach battalions were composed of many specialties, including, demolition, signalmen, riflemen, medics and others - whatever necessary to manage the beach. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The miss is fixed!
Donald, I don't think it was the torque value. It is due to the hard foam piece that holds the top end of the plug in the socket to keep it from falling out. If you pull on the wrench handle and don't keep the socket or extension straight in relation to the plug, with some down force at the wrench head as you pull up on the handle, then the foam will transfer the pressure to the insulator and break it. Manfred Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 00:05:52 -0500 From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] I kept thinking this has to be the plugs . . . and guess what they were the problem. I guess I torqued them a little too hard. The ceramic insulation was cracked (badly on one and barely on the other). I replaced the plugs and went for a drive and it ran fine - no miss! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wrong
The question I want to ask is; Kaleb was that time of 8:16 that you wrote in the body of the message the time that your computer clock showed or was that the time on your watch or clock on the wall or radio/TV? Manfred Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 09:24:00 -0700 From: ernest breakfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] nor i; time stamp in Kalebs e-mail was an hour off from what he said here on mine, too; using Thunderbird an a MacBook. of course, he could just be messing with us,... ;-) cheers! e ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel Jetta
Top end was in the nineties for my 92. I never cruised over 75, tho-- noisy enough at that speed! Dan On Jun 7, 2008, at 9:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, that will actually run right along with our 220D manual. Probably faster on the top end by a mile thoughlol Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 123 Blower motor ?'s
There is a nice 123 diesel on ebay that appears to be selling cheap. One reason is probably because the blower motor is not working. How much of a project is that? What does it cost - parts and labor (if I don't do it). Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 Blower motor ?'s
I don't think a W123 is abnormally difficult. Just remember, if it's a 1976 it might be a W115, and those are incredibly time consuming to replace. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More shameless commerce
I need a Palomino rear seat backwait you said a wagon, right?. Never mind. Bob R. Still looking for a Palomino rear seat back. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 7:01 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] More shameless commerce My 1983 300TD donor car (sans drivetrain) will go to the crusher next week. I removed most of the easily detachable hard parts yesterday. If you have a palomino interior let me know ASAP as the seats and door panels are all intact.so it would be a shame to see them go to waste. The vehicle resides in zip code 20850. Contact me offlist to negotiate for pieces or the whole thing. . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT alternative forms of voter franchise
Max said... Also, nowhere in our (U.S.) constitution is there a right to vote. Not in the bill of rights, not in the articles. In other words (I think - someone correct me if I'm wrong), it would not take a constitutional amendment to change our current system, just a majority vote passed into law by a state legislature... - I can't believe you missed it...it's right there next to a woman's right to murder an unborn child, and the right for two beings to be married, regardless of anything. As far as the states being able to control their own voting processes, I think the Voting Rights Act speaks for that (Not that there's anything in the Constitution that authorizes THAT little gem of legislation)...oh, but it only applies to SOUTHERN states, so I guess the northern states could do it. Heinlein's approach to suffrage is a lot like John Stuart Mill's... To quote Supreme Court Justice Salmon P. Chase, who served from 1864 to 1873, State sovereignty died at Appomattox. Royce - an unreconstructed Southerner ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT alternative forms of voter franchise
OK, you went from free speach to meddling there :=). Actually, I am considered totally disabled, but what I live on is the pension fund I paid into the years I worked and the SS disability I paid into all the years I worked. I'd have to argue about that being a public gift to me from the taxpayers. And I do vote. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 9:11 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT alternative forms of voter franchise dole for more than 2 months of the previous year then you should not be allowed to vote. That does not include the verifiably disabled I would not be quite so generous. IMHO, dole == no vote, and I'm so sorry if that's a trouble. If there are loopholes, the natural tendency is to open them up, defeating the whole purpose. In fact, I _just_ might be convinced to add those on public salary to the same list! Isn't the federal government now the largest single employer in existence? Have they reached self-sustaining critical mass yet? Vote for Johnson, keep your job! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 Blower motor ?'s
I know the '76's were terrible to replace, but I thought the '76's were easy - or was that just the AC blower? BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 11:55 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 Blower motor ?'s I don't think a W123 is abnormally difficult. Just remember, if it's a 1976 it might be a W115, and those are incredibly time consuming to replace. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 Blower motor ?'s - oops
Sorry - meant to say the 75's were terrible to replace - I had to do that one once, and was told the '76's were easy at the time. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill R Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 12:57 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 Blower motor ?'s I know the '76's were terrible to replace, but I thought the '76's were easy - or was that just the AC blower? BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 11:55 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 Blower motor ?'s I don't think a W123 is abnormally difficult. Just remember, if it's a 1976 it might be a W115, and those are incredibly time consuming to replace. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trampas at NCSU
Trampas said Well the issue is that I am 38 years old and not sure how a PhD will help me in my future. I started taking classes towards masters as I was bored at work, however I now have a new job - smarter and wiser folks always told me that the only reason to get a PhD was to be a professor, with a few exceptions (Geologists are one specialty that comes to mind). If you don't plan on working in academia, don't bother with the PhD. Royce - who ended up getting three Master's degrees ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Orelegated alternative forms of voter franchise
Royce wrote the right for two beings to be married, regardless of anything I'm not familiar with the wording of the recently passed legislation -- does it specify 2 people ? or can it be 3,4,5 or more? What about father marrying son, daughter or the family dog? re: State sovereignty died at Appomattox In spite of the tremendous effort our forefathers put into the Constitution, state sovereignty was fought for and lost. There are so many references to ...rights are reserved to the states (or the people) unless specifically given to the federal govt but they seem to be lost when the gov or some loud yelling group wants it to be different. This is where things really went wrong - instead of those things not specifically relegated to the fed going to the state or the people, the fed is taking control of everything from soup to nuts! With the collusion of the supreme court it seems! Once the Constitutional comment about promote the general Welfare was declared to cover interstate commerce there was no limit to the gov power as it can be considered to include virtually everything and anything the gov wants it to mean. The constitution was wrotten to provide the principle of government power as a grant from the people, rather than individual rights being a grant from the government. And most directlly rights not listed are reserved to the states or to the people We have lost our way -- Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Royce Engler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT alternative forms of voter franchise Max said... Also, nowhere in our (U.S.) constitution is there a right to vote. Not in the bill of rights, not in the articles. In other words (I think - someone correct me if I'm wrong), it would not take a constitutional amendment to change our current system, just a majority vote passed into law by a state legislature... - I can't believe you missed it...it's right there next to a woman's right to murder an unborn child, and the right for two beings to be married, regardless of anything. As far as the states being able to control their own voting processes, I think the Voting Rights Act speaks for that (Not that there's anything in the Constitution that authorizes THAT little gem of legislation)...oh, but it only applies to SOUTHERN states, so I guess the northern states could do it. Heinlein's approach to suffrage is a lot like John Stuart Mill's... To quote Supreme Court Justice Salmon P. Chase, who served from 1864 to 1873, State sovereignty died at Appomattox. Royce - an unreconstructed Southerner ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Glow plug relay
Brunnhilde is dim, fuse is OK, does not look like volts getting to it though, so suggests glow plug relay? Which of those little boxes is the GP relay (under the dash I am assuming)? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT alternative forms of voter franchise
Jim wrote Isn't the federal government now the largest single employer in existence? Yep - something like 54% of employees get their pay from some form of govt. BTW, if someone is disabled and being given back some of the money paid *to* the govt over a 40+ working lifetime means no vote I'd have a problem with that. IMO when the govt takes money from us we are owed something in return. If they had not taken the money in the 1st place I could have put it into savings and not need SS Disability Insurance - which I had no choice but to fund nor do I have a choice of how it is invested. The dirty secret about why they did not want to see us get the ability to manage our own SS savings (a measley 5% IIRC) is because there is no money - they spend it as fast as it comes in. And they'd rather not admit it because it would affect the national debt which affects all kinds of things. Instead of the US being $5 Trillion in debt it's more like $20 trillion --more than the value of everything in the US. Sad, very sad. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT alternative forms of voter franchise dole for more than 2 months of the previous year then you should not be allowed to vote. That does not include the verifiably disabled I would not be quite so generous. IMHO, dole == no vote, and I'm so sorry if that's a trouble. If there are loopholes, the natural tendency is to open them up, defeating the whole purpose. In fact, I _just_ might be convinced to add those on public salary to the same list! Isn't the federal government now the largest single employer in existence? Have they reached self-sustaining critical mass yet? Vote for Johnson, keep your job! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 Blower motor ?'s - oops
Bill R wrote: Sorry - meant to say the 75's were terrible to replace - I had to do that one once, and was told the '76's were easy at the time. I was thinking that both the W115 (entire car built around the heater blower) and the W123 (serviceable) were both available in the 1976 model year. If it's got 7 headlishts outboard of 5 3/4 fog lights, it shouldn't be that bad. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT alternative forms of voter franchise
I still prefer the votes based on taxes paid - if millionaire are truely not paying their share (which I doubt) they will not have any votes - same for the lower 3rd of the public - this way, only the middle class will get any votes. Also, if people are civic minded and wish to elect those officials good for business they'll report as much income as possible to get the most votes. Those with no income would get no votes but would have some incentive to join the ranks of taxpayers. BTW, those on disability income pay taxes on the benefits - BTDT. It depends on some circumstances but it happens. This way we get to pay tax twice (Yip) once when we are paid, then again when the money is returned to us. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: MG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT alternative forms of voter franchise Been thinking about this right to vote thing for a while. Best I can come up with is that if you are on the public dole for more than 2 months of the previous year or are a dependent of someone on the public dole for more than 2 months of the previous year then you should not be allowed to vote. That does not include the verifiably disabled which verification also needs to be tightened up to not include the morbidly obese (might help them to loose a few pounds). Why let freeloaders vote for someone who will help them live the life they want at everyone else's expense. Manfred Who's wife told him it is dangerous for him to think. Wonder what she means by that? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT alternative forms of voter franchise
Rich wrote never did understand why you need a SS card when you have a passport and It's because there's a place on a form the DMV clerk is filling out. If it says SS # there's no other number or piece of paper it will accept. And there's no amount of logic or reasoning that can make that blank space on the form go away. You're not dealing with people you have to fight a blank place on a computer screen with a place for 8 numbers. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 1:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT alternative forms of voter franchise I took my daughter 3X to get her driver learner permit. She had a passport and a birth certificate, but they still demanded a Social Security card, which we could not find so had to go to the SS office to order up another one. They gave her an official temporary paper that said she had the number but the DL office would not take that. So a week or so later the real card came (it would have been easier to go to the flea market and just buy one like the guest workers do, but I digress) and we went time #3. I never did understand why you need a SS card when you have a passport and birth cert (which you have to have to get the passport). I think it is all a big circle jerk, probably aimed at weeding out the guest workers, most of whom don't appear to make the effort to get a DL anyway so it is rather pointless. Here in TX you can use your DL as a voter ID, or your voter registration card, which you can get when you get a DL. Anyway, the effort for the driving privilege was equivalent to the effort for a voter registration (which you get by default), and in some ways I guess it was A Good Thing, as it really validated that she was a citizen. Here in TX I did get to vote twice for Hillary!, stayin alive, stayin alive... but all the delegates went for Barry O anyway, even though she won more votes, so I guess it did not matter. Barry O, Selected Not Elected! --R tom savage wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: I would trade him for a dozen of the poor citizens in Indiana. That is just so lame. They ought to be disenfranchised. While I agree with everything you've written, Indiana has in fact effectively disenfranchised thousands of poor and Amish via the Voter ID Law. http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/28/scotus.voter.id/ My mom tried to get a driver's license and register to vote there last year. Sorry ma'am, but your birth certificate and Social Security card show a different (maiden) name so no suffrage for you. Oh, and this West Virginia driver's license you showed me isn't valid here, either, as you can't prove that you're really you. Next! It took a while, but eventually they invented new middle and last names for her and issued the proper papers. Scary. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] that'll give him the mandate he deserves = now list
Donald, that comment makes me definately want to manage your campaign to become a judge! ;-) Those choices are the only ones a conservative really has. We all would like Thompson or Romney but we don't have that choice - unless we start a write-in campaign? Anyway, as poor a choice that McCain is, the thought of seeing obama in the white house is not what this country needs and I hope we don't get that.. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 10:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] that'll give him the mandate he deserves = now list Andrew wrote: Donald, I think Chuck Hagel may pull the lever for Obama - especially if he's chosen as the running mate (he's currently a very dark horse). You should keep an open mind... I do have an open mind. I am voting for John McCain. I wanted Fred Thompson or Mitt Romney. My mind is open enough to vote for John McCain. I can envision no possible scenario that involve me voting for Obama. Unless, I only had to choose between Maxine Waters or Charles Schumer, then I would vote for Obama. OR, I would write in Mitt Romney. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Orelegated alternative forms of voter franchise on to forms of marriage
Royce wrote the right for two beings to be married, regardless of anything I'm not familiar with the wording of the recently passed legislation -- does it specify 2 people ? or can it be 3,4,5 or more? What about father marrying son, daughter or the family dog? Many of those things do go more than a bit beyond sanity, though the gay thing never bothered me. My marriage to my Darling Wife isn't affected at all by theirs, and I don't understand the idea that somehow it is made less important when Mike and Jerry [two good friends who have been in a monogamous relationship for 15 years] are able to marry. They are more married than a lot of heterosexual couples. That one doesn't bother me at all. I won't go into the religious stuff as it has been worked over already - even if not here. Nothing there that changes my mind either. BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb - 300SDL
Tom wrote: I need to know if you are still interested in trading for the 300SDL. If not then I need to try sell the car locally. Want to sell it for $1500? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The miss is fixed!
Manfred wrote: I don't think it was the torque value. It is due to the hard foam piece that holds the top end of the plug in the socket to keep it from falling out. If you pull on the wrench handle and don't keep the socket or extension straight in relation to the plug, with some down force at the wrench head as you pull up on the handle, then the foam will transfer the pressure to the insulator and break it. That is a good point. When I put the new ones on, I made sure to pull the wrench off straight. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Hammie exhaust
Its 95 degrees out and this is the day I've got to work on the exhaust... I have the week of July 4th off from work and I'd like to use that week to get the car on the road, ie get it insured, registered and inspected. I have to work next week and then I'll be in Burbank, CA for 2 weeks for work so this is the only time. The worst part of the job was cutting off the pipe the shop had welded on. I wish they'd thought about what a bear it would be to get apart. Of course a proper shop would have the car up on a lift and would cut it off with a torch. I had the front end up on ramps and tried to cut it off with a 4 1/2 angle grinder. The problem is a 4 1/4 angle grinder can only cut about 1 and it was very hard to cut the top of the pipe. Then of course I'd left a ragged cut so it was hard to get the replacement in place and then I forgot to put the clamp on first so I had to take the pipe back off to put the clamp on. nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; All in all it took me about 2 hours, remember this is the first exhaust I've ever installed. Next time should be quicker because I'll buy a bigger angle grinder or the pipe won't be welded The only issue is I used the heavy duty rubber muffler hangers and when the car idles the muffler rubs on a heat shield just above it. I think this is partially caused by collapsed motor mounts. I'm not sure if I'm up to doing those or if I'll have my Indy do them. nbsp;For him they're an easy job, not big money... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Orelegated alternative forms of voter franchise on toforms of marriage
Bill R wrote: My marriage to my Darling Wife isn't affected at all by theirs, I just want to know why government ever got involved in marriage in the first place. We got along for thousands of years without government meddling in marriages. I think that marriage is one of those rights reserved to the people in the Ninth and Tenth Amendments. Demanding that we ask government for a license to marry makes as much sense as demanding that we apply for breathing licenses. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 Blower motor ?'s - oops
It's the 115 that's a bear to do (did it twice), the 115 ran from '68 to '76. The 123 started in '77 - should be LOTs easier to change, though I've never had to do it. The 107 - '72 to '89 - were EASY to change! (did it once). On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill R wrote: Sorry - meant to say the 75's were terrible to replace - I had to do that one once, and was told the '76's were easy at the time. I was thinking that both the W115 (entire car built around the heater blower) and the W123 (serviceable) were both available in the 1976 model year. If it's got 7 headlishts outboard of 5 3/4 fog lights, it shouldn't be that bad. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Orelegated alternative forms of voter franchise on toforms of marriage
It's all about property - who gets what when one of the pair dies, which offspring inherit what and when. If there were no property issues, then Government wouldn't care (unless it is a religious State, in which they care about EVERYTHING). Marriage is a legal contract regarding property, Snook - am I close? On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill R wrote: My marriage to my Darling Wife isn't affected at all by theirs, I just want to know why government ever got involved in marriage in the first place. We got along for thousands of years without government meddling in marriages. I think that marriage is one of those rights reserved to the people in the Ninth and Tenth Amendments. Demanding that we ask government for a license to marry makes as much sense as demanding that we apply for breathing licenses. Mitch. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 123 blower motor
I replaced blower motor on my 80 240D (123) 'bout 22 years ago. I's above rt front passenger's feet - relatively easy job. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Orelegated alternative forms of voter franchise on toforms of marriage
I was going to respond, but OK Don said it better, I think. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 3:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Orelegated alternative forms of voter franchise on toforms of marriage Bill R wrote: My marriage to my Darling Wife isn't affected at all by theirs, I just want to know why government ever got involved in marriage in the first place. We got along for thousands of years without government meddling in marriages. I think that marriage is one of those rights reserved to the people in the Ninth and Tenth Amendments. Demanding that we ask government for a license to marry makes as much sense as demanding that we apply for breathing licenses. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hammie exhaust
I don't think it will be a big job for you, if it's not one for him. Engine mounts are loosen bolts, rlift enough to take weight off, remove bolts, remove old mounts. insert new mounts, start bolts, let the engine down, tighten bolts. - do one side at a time. I find exhaust systems to be more work than changing engine mounts! Did you get the photos I sent? I think this is partially caused by collapsed motor mounts. I'm not sure if I'm up to doing those or if I'll have my Indy do them. For him they're an easy job, not big money... -Curt -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb - 300SDL
Sure. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 1:15 PM To: 'mercedes@okiebenz.com' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Kaleb - 300SDL Tom wrote: I need to know if you are still interested in trading for the 300SDL. If not then I need to try sell the car locally. Want to sell it for $1500? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.0.0/1489 - Release Date: 6/7/2008 11:17 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.0.0/1489 - Release Date: 6/7/2008 11:17 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] that'll give him the mandate he deserves = now list
Larry wrote: Donald, that comment makes me definately want to manage your campaign to become a judge! ;-) Those choices are the only ones a conservative really has. We all would like Thompson or Romney but we don't have that choice - unless we start a write-in campaign? Anyway, as poor a choice that McCain is, the thought of seeing obama in the white house is not what this country needs and I hope we don't get that.. Amen, brother. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glow plug relay
Brunnhilde is dim, fuse is OK, does not look like volts getting to it though, so suggests glow plug relay? Which of those little boxes is the GP relay (under the dash I am assuming)? Most were not under the dash. Only the early key-start versions of cars that had pull knobs. Series-plug cars, in other words. Those are big boxes right under the steering column. The parallel plug systems have their relays on the inside fender. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 Blower motor ?'s
I know the '76's were terrible to replace, but I thought the '76's were easy - or was that just the AC blower? Heater blower on a 114/115 is a nightmare. AC blower on same is easy. Shared blower on 123 is easy. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT alternative forms of voter franchise
BTW, if someone is disabled and being given back some of the money paid *to* the govt over a 40+ working lifetime means no vote I'd have a problem with that. IMO when the govt takes money from us we are owed something in Now we're getting into what the dole _is_. Gets a little fuzzy there, in the case of disability or what SS was intended to be (not what it is). Regardless, my basic principle is that IF you are funded at gunpoint, you DON'T get to vote to perpetuate the system. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hammie exhaust
Engine mounts on nearly all MB chassis are a piece of cake. I got so good at doing 123 mounts I had it down to about 30 minutes a side, and most of that was setup and tear down. Just be sure to get a hex driver that goes on a 1/2 drive ratchet to break the bolt loose. And snap it, don't just twist. Dan --- OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think it will be a big job for you, if it's not one for him. Engine mounts are loosen bolts, rlift enough to take weight off, remove bolts, remove old mounts. insert new mounts, start bolts, let the engine down, tighten bolts. - do one side at a time. I find exhaust systems to be more work than changing engine mounts! Did you get the photos I sent? I think this is partially caused by collapsed motor mounts. I'm not sure if I'm up to doing those or if I'll have my Indy do them. For him they're an easy job, not big money... -Curt -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security
Andrew wrote most Rs are less than thrilled with McCain Not even our 2nd or 3rd choice. After losing Thompon and Romney we are left with McCain - we didn't choose him so much as are being stuck with him - he won by default. Unfortunatley Thompson and Romney dropped out without even contesting it seriously. Thompson was gone without a whimper and Romney saw the light early. And we are left with the democrats - 2 socialists and 1 liberal. Not a great choice among 'em! Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security Even most Rs are less than thrilled with McCain, as he was not their first choice. On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 4:35 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got to wonder. Appears folks are not happy about many things right now - war, economy, house values, fuel prices etc. Wouldn't want to bet on the willingness of the people to reinstate the same thing. Happened in Canada last time with the Liberals. Only a minority Conservative government but no movement to change that at the moment. Liberals have not managed to rebound and the Conservatives have enough support to carry on for the moment. Your system is different enough that it may not matter. Democrats everywhere but the Whitehouse now. Not so sure that black or female makes much difference right now. Country is unhappy and Bush is taking the heat for it. McCain is just more Bush and that is not going to help him. If the Democrats don't self destruct, one would have to guess they may be successful. Randy on the outside looking in -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 6:55 AM To: 'mercedes@okiebenz.com' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security Randy wrote: We had all better hope for the best as he is likely the next president. I think this be just like 1972. Obama = McGovern. McCain will defeat him. Racism is still too prevalent to elect Obama. There is a reason HRC kept winning poor and middle class whites state after state. Many of those middle class whites have said that they will now vote for McCain. Reagan democrats can identify with more the liberal Republican rather than the Ultra-Liberal democrat. In fact, one you take away the activists from each party, I think most people who would identify themselves with McCain's policies and ideas. He is very much in the middle whereas Obama is FAR left out in Pelosi territory. That is why he will lose like Mcgovern did. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1995 SL500 ASR ABS Lamp On
Yes but only the prime mover version, with the turntable mounted on the boot lid. Hendrik MG wrote: Wow! The 95 SL500 has dual rear axles! I want one even if the front rear wheel speed sensors are illogical. Manfred There I go thinking again. Or not. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] lust
Got a ride in John Robbins' 320 CDI this afternoon. Was very difficult to drive back into the 240D and drive home from Des Moines. First car I've ever seen that came equipped with a power cup holder (I did you not). You push a button and the cup holder unfolds itself. Slowly and in a controlled fashion. It was very Mercedes. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 240D slipping in reverse
My '77 240D goes nowhere in reverse if there is the slightest upward incline. Did some research into old posts and read up on adjusting the B3 brake band. Can anyone tell me where this is located (in general terms) on the tranny? -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D slipping in reverse
Inside. Did some research into old posts and read up on adjusting the B3 brake band. Can anyone tell me where this is located (in general terms) on the tranny? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lust
That's why i don't test drive cars at the dealers --- On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 5:42 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got a ride in John Robbins' 320 CDI this afternoon. Was very difficult to drive back into the 240D and drive home from Des Moines. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D slipping in reverse
The ADJUSTMENT BOLT, not the band. On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 6:42 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Inside. Did some research into old posts and read up on adjusting the B3 brake band. Can anyone tell me where this is located (in general terms) on the tranny? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT alternative forms of voter franchise. the right way
Oooh yes, America the land of the free, shining beacon of Democracy, leader of the free world but if you get laid off because the Government has fallen asleep at the wheel, watch out. I hear they are building concentration camps (and calling them trailer parks) to lock up all those bludgers and keep them away from good, decent folk in the gated estates who vote the right way. Obviously the voting ban should extend to those who don't pay enough taxes, unless they can prove that the reason they pay low taxes is that they have a clever accountant who moves the money through various holding companies and off shore accounts. Of course if you are a student, then there is no vote for you, unless you work part time and pay a certain amount of taxes. Although my preferences is to put those long haired hippy types into the Army so they can be sent overseas to teach other nations all about democracy the American way, along the lines of do what we say or get blown up. Now because Government employees, like soldiers, don't actually pay taxes they should be disenfranchised. It seems fair that they die for their country but don't get to have a say in who runs the place. However to simplify all this I would suggest that only registered republican party members have the right to vote, naturally there would have to be a screening process to ensure no undesirables obtain membership, perhaps a joining fee of $10K (which would be fully tax deductible) would deter those sub humans. Obersturmfuehrer Hendrik who is off to a meeting of 'Decent Whites for Decent Rights' at which we will be burning a few books, practicing window smashing and swapping tips on how to get blood off jackboots Seriously though, it saddens me to see this sort of rubbish right next to posts commemorating the D-Day landings, which where essentially designed to liberate the people of western Europe and return the right to vote to them, regardless of their economic circumstances. As opposed to having the Soviets do the liberating and then enforce their form of Government. I do believe that Nazi Germany would have lost the war D-Day or not. Jim Cathey wrote: dole for more than 2 months of the previous year then you should not be allowed to vote. That does not include the verifiably disabled I would not be quite so generous. IMHO, dole == no vote, and I'm so sorry if that's a trouble. If there are loopholes, the natural tendency is to open them up, defeating the whole purpose. In fact, I _just_ might be convinced to add those on public salary to the same list! Isn't the federal government now the largest single employer in existence? Have they reached self-sustaining critical mass yet? Vote for Johnson, keep your job! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security
The other two were lousy campaigners. On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 5:40 PM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew wrote most Rs are less than thrilled with McCain Not even our 2nd or 3rd choice. After losing Thompon and Romney we are left with McCain - we didn't choose him so much as are being stuck with him - he won by default. Unfortunatley Thompson and Romney dropped out without even contesting it seriously. Thompson was gone without a whimper and Romney saw the light early. And we are left with the democrats - 2 socialists and 1 liberal. Not a great choice among 'em! Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security Even most Rs are less than thrilled with McCain, as he was not their first choice. On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 4:35 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got to wonder. Appears folks are not happy about many things right now - war, economy, house values, fuel prices etc. Wouldn't want to bet on the willingness of the people to reinstate the same thing. Happened in Canada last time with the Liberals. Only a minority Conservative government but no movement to change that at the moment. Liberals have not managed to rebound and the Conservatives have enough support to carry on for the moment. Your system is different enough that it may not matter. Democrats everywhere but the Whitehouse now. Not so sure that black or female makes much difference right now. Country is unhappy and Bush is taking the heat for it. McCain is just more Bush and that is not going to help him. If the Democrats don't self destruct, one would have to guess they may be successful. Randy on the outside looking in -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 6:55 AM To: 'mercedes@okiebenz.com' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security Randy wrote: We had all better hope for the best as he is likely the next president. I think this be just like 1972. Obama = McGovern. McCain will defeat him. Racism is still too prevalent to elect Obama. There is a reason HRC kept winning poor and middle class whites state after state. Many of those middle class whites have said that they will now vote for McCain. Reagan democrats can identify with more the liberal Republican rather than the Ultra-Liberal democrat. In fact, one you take away the activists from each party, I think most people who would identify themselves with McCain's policies and ideas. He is very much in the middle whereas Obama is FAR left out in Pelosi territory. That is why he will lose like Mcgovern did. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security
Thompson came off as a bumbling idiot. We already have one of those in the White House and look what happened to our country. Romney -- and I actually attended one of his small, intimate Iowa events when he was first starting his campaign -- couldn't see beyond and got tripped up in his own gigantic ego. On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 7:00 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The other two were lousy campaigners. On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 5:40 PM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew wrote most Rs are less than thrilled with McCain Not even our 2nd or 3rd choice. After losing Thompon and Romney we are left with McCain - we didn't choose him so much as are being stuck with him - he won by default. Unfortunatley Thompson and Romney dropped out without even contesting it seriously. Thompson was gone without a whimper and Romney saw the light early. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Orelegated alternative forms of voter franchise on
Ok Don wrote: Marriage is a legal contract regarding property, Snook - am I close? Practically speaking that is pretty accurate. Marriage was, of course, a practice that was solely governed by ecclesiastical (church law) law. It has since been governed by civil law and it does seem that the only concern has the control and disposition of property. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb - 300SDL
Tom wrote: Sure. I am going to go out on a limb and guess there is something very wrong it or you are kidding. If not, then please send me pictures. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] I just burn up $200 worth of diesel for a wild goose chase
I just got back from KC to pick up a 86 190D. Supposedly ran, but possible bad trans, body and interior in good shape. I get there, only to not be able to find the house because its in the boonies and not marked. I find what I suspect is the right driveway and try to call the people. (not going to go down some wierd driveway that I dont know what is down there). Cant get ahold of them. They guy comes by going to that driveway and I ask him if he knows where these people are, he doesnt. They finally call me back, and its the right drive. Huh, why didnt this guy who was going to their house put 2 and 2 together. So this wife is doing the selling of the car. The husband does not appear to know anything about anything. She was out of town. So he takes me down to where the car is (which I think was his fathers land) to see the car. We go past what I assume was his fathers house to get to the car, there was a truck in the drive which I later assumed was his fathers truck. More about that later. So I get to the car and discover its actually a 85, not an 86. I also discover it has huge rust holes where the jack points should be. Large rats nest under the hood, and will probalby need rewiring like I just went thru on my other 190D. So I tell the old boy that the car is not as described so my orginal offer would be lowered by x amount of dollars. He says its his fathers car and his father said to sell it for x amount (which I offered before). He said I drove all that way yada yada yada, I guess he figured I would just pay anyway and not go home empty handed. I then ask about the key, which was not in the car. I said I had a battery with me could see if it ran like they said it was supposed to. He didnt know anything about the key. He says call wife, I call her, she didnt know anything about the key either, but will call the father in law. Keep in mind we just past was I assume the fathers house. They cant get ahold of him. So, I told the guy (kid really), well I have wasted enough of my time and money on this trip, sorry it didnt work out and left. Fathers truck was not at the house anymore. you would think knowing I was showing up to get the car all these dumb asses would have got their crap together. If htye had a key, surely I would have made some kind of deal with them. I guess I learned my lesson, next time investigate more before going on a car buying trip. I should have known days ago, in emailing the wife about the car she said father in law knew more about it and she should have him call me. He never did. Oh well. 2nd bad car deal I have had this weekend. Went to the auction Saturday and bid and won a 93 chevy 3500 crew cab diesel for a fairly good deal. Was kind of beat up but would have made a good beater truck. $1400. Was sold with a phone call meaning it didnt meat the selling dealers reserve, so after the bidding they call the seller to see if they will take it or what. Nope, they wanted 3k for it. WAY too much. I passed. Waisted the whole damn weekend chasing my tail. Win some, loose some. Guess Im getting paybacks for that super deal I got on that wagon last week with the #17 head. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb - 300SDL
Donald Snook wrote: I am going to go out on a limb and guess there is something very wrong I think this is the car that Tom's been nursing a head gasket leak for 100k+ miles. You could very well get $1500 worth of use out of it before it fails in a major way. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wrong
the time my computer showed, right now it shows 8:08pm central time when sending this MG wrote: The question I want to ask is; Kaleb was that time of 8:16 that you wrote in the body of the message the time that your computer clock showed or was that the time on your watch or clock on the wall or radio/TV? Manfred Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 09:24:00 -0700 From: ernest breakfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] nor i; time stamp in Kalebs e-mail was an hour off from what he said here on mine, too; using Thunderbird an a MacBook. of course, he could just be messing with us,... ;-) cheers! e ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D slipping in reverse
The adjustment bolts is on the side of the tranny, I THINK towared the back but I dont remember what side. Wonko the Sane wrote: My '77 240D goes nowhere in reverse if there is the slightest upward incline. Did some research into old posts and read up on adjusting the B3 brake band. Can anyone tell me where this is located (in general terms) on the tranny? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb - 300SDL
he should have bought mine for $2500 Mitch Haley wrote: Donald Snook wrote: I am going to go out on a limb and guess there is something very wrong I think this is the car that Tom's been nursing a head gasket leak for 100k+ miles. You could very well get $1500 worth of use out of it before it fails in a major way. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 87 300D head gasket
With the help of Luther's magic pin pulling tool, we got the head off today. you can see from the photos (if Kaleb approves them), that the head and block look good. It was very oily between #1 and the chain vault. Both sides of the gasket were wet and so were the head and block. There is one photo of #3 or 4 cyl gasket area for reference. I'd wiped the oil off the head and block before I took the photos, so those are the cleaner areas in the photos. Although we haven't cleaned the head for re-assembly, I don't see any cracking anywhere. I also don't see signs of the head being brnt or eroded from combustion gases - which I did expect to see. The PO (Richard) drove it this way for a couple of years! It doesn't look very carboned up to me, though it's been a LONG time since I've seen a Diesel head off an engine. I see from the EPC that there have been several versions of this head gasket over the years, adding extra sealing aroung coolant and oil ports, etc. What are the current thoughts about gasket sealants on head gaskets? This one did not have any on it, though it's probably original with 200k miles.. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 603 block.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 95802 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080607/594ec6df/attachment.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 603 cylinder one.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 85576 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080607/594ec6df/attachment-0001.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 603 head cyl 1.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 74092 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080607/594ec6df/attachment-0002.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 603 head gasket bottom 1.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 72627 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080607/594ec6df/attachment-0003.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 603 head gasket bottom cu 1.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 79258 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080607/594ec6df/attachment-0004.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 603 head gasket cyl 3.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 78717 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080607/594ec6df/attachment-0005.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D slipping in reverse
Thanks. That will get me in the general vicinity. On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 9:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The adjustment bolts is on the side of the tranny, I THINK towared the back but I dont remember what side. Wonko the Sane wrote: My '77 240D goes nowhere in reverse if there is the slightest upward incline. Did some research into old posts and read up on adjusting the B3 brake band. Can anyone tell me where this is located (in general terms) on the tranny? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security
andrew strasfogel wrote: Even most Rs are less than thrilled with McCain, as he was not their first choice. This bumper sticker sums up the feelings of a lot of Republicans: -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: mccain08.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 40511 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080608/1d4564f5/attachment.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D slipping in reverse
Just look for a bolt with a lock bolt on it. Wonko the Sane wrote: Thanks. That will get me in the general vicinity. On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 9:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The adjustment bolts is on the side of the tranny, I THINK towared the back but I dont remember what side. Wonko the Sane wrote: My '77 240D goes nowhere in reverse if there is the slightest upward incline. Did some research into old posts and read up on adjusting the B3 brake band. Can anyone tell me where this is located (in general terms) on the tranny? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300D head gasket
with the head off you still need to send it off to be checked at the very least. Might be warped, might have cracks you cant see OK Don wrote: With the help of Luther's magic pin pulling tool, we got the head off today. you can see from the photos (if Kaleb approves them), that the head and block look good. It was very oily between #1 and the chain vault. Both sides of the gasket were wet and so were the head and block. There is one photo of #3 or 4 cyl gasket area for reference. I'd wiped the oil off the head and block before I took the photos, so those are the cleaner areas in the photos. Although we haven't cleaned the head for re-assembly, I don't see any cracking anywhere. I also don't see signs of the head being brnt or eroded from combustion gases - which I did expect to see. The PO (Richard) drove it this way for a couple of years! It doesn't look very carboned up to me, though it's been a LONG time since I've seen a Diesel head off an engine. I see from the EPC that there have been several versions of this head gasket over the years, adding extra sealing aroung coolant and oil ports, etc. What are the current thoughts about gasket sealants on head gaskets? This one did not have any on it, though it's probably original with 200k miles.. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D slipping in reverse
I'd check now but I don't want to lay down in an inch of water outside. (Most garage space currently reserved for stuff that is still drying from the flood.) On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 9:15 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just look for a bolt with a lock bolt on it. Wonko the Sane wrote: Thanks. That will get me in the general vicinity. On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 9:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The adjustment bolts is on the side of the tranny, I THINK towared the back but I dont remember what side. Wonko the Sane wrote: My '77 240D goes nowhere in reverse if there is the slightest upward incline. Did some research into old posts and read up on adjusting the B3 brake band. Can anyone tell me where this is located (in general terms) on the tranny? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb - 300SDL
Donald Snook wrote: I am going to go out on a limb and guess there is something very wrong it or you are kidding. If not, then please send me pictures. The headgasket/head has issues. I don't remember the details, but there is something in that department. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb - 300SDL
yea, has a bad head and a salvage title John Robbins wrote: Donald Snook wrote: I am going to go out on a limb and guess there is something very wrong it or you are kidding. If not, then please send me pictures. The headgasket/head has issues. I don't remember the details, but there is something in that department. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security
So, you are saying that your team will not bother to vote? If so, cool. On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 9:25 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: Even most Rs are less than thrilled with McCain, as he was not their first choice. This bumper sticker sums up the feelings of a lot of Republicans: -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wrong
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: the time my computer showed, right now it shows 8:08pm central time when sending this All your messages are an hour ahead on my computer as well. It has been like this for a long time... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wrong
Its something along the way them, my computer has the correct time John Robbins wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: the time my computer showed, right now it shows 8:08pm central time when sending this All your messages are an hour ahead on my computer as well. It has been like this for a long time... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb - 300SDL
All, I've offered my Mercedes 300SDL car for sale to the group in the past have no problem telling you about the issues that I know of. At least you aren't buying an unknown that someone is trying to pawn one off on you. I am really interested in trading for another Mercedes - a decent 123 body 240D 4 speed or a early 70s 220D 4 speed. $1500 is a fair price when considering the issues with the car. Here's all I know about the car: It has at least a bad head gasket possibly a bad head. But I've driven the car for 150,000 miles with the issue as long as I keep a sealer in the radiator there seem to be no symptoms. The car has a rebuilt title, not a salvaged title. Rebuilt means that the car had a salvaged title, was repaired by a reputable shop inspected by the state. But most forget that a car is totaled by an insurance company because the damage has exceeded 70% of its value and that older cars are totaled for relatively minor damage. Also, shops who rebuild these Mercedes can only afford to rebuild older cars with relatively minor damage. The lower oil pan was shattered welded back together - not by me. Possibly part of the reason it was totaled? The left, front caliper sticks needs rebuilding. It's not bad enough to cause the brakes to bind but it is bad enough to wear the inside pad twice as fast as the others. The interior is complete is in fair condition. The lower part of the front seat covers have pulled out of the frames. I hit a deer at 80 MPH a few years ago. I pulled off the interstate, expecting to find a mangled fender. Instead, there is some damage to the plastic headlight surround the driver door is slightly pushed in where she spun around hit the door. She did not fare so well was turned into deer burger by the truck that was behind me. So, my score is Mercedes - 1, Doe - 0. The AC was converted to 134a by me the last time I ran the car, it worked. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 9:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Kaleb - 300SDL yea, has a bad head and a salvage title John Robbins wrote: Donald Snook wrote: I am going to go out on a limb and guess there is something very wrong it or you are kidding. If not, then please send me pictures. The headgasket/head has issues. I don't remember the details, but there is something in that department. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.0.0/1489 - Release Date: 6/7/2008 11:17 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.0.0/1489 - Release Date: 6/7/2008 11:17 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wrong
This is Gmail's version of a header for this email - says 9:08 instead of 8:08. fromKaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] reply-toMercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com to Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com dateSun, Jun 8, 2008 at 9:08 PM subject Re: [MBZ] Wrong Must be a combination of Kaleb's ISP, and Google, and the others that are seeing the hour discrepancy. On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its something along the way them, my computer has the correct time John Robbins wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: the time my computer showed, right now it shows 8:08pm central time when sending this All your messages are an hour ahead on my computer as well. It has been like this for a long time... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WHAT TIME IS IT?
Message: 7 Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:08:40 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wrong To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed the time my computer showed, right now it shows 8:08pm central time when sending this Looks good to me. Just like the last time. RLE ** Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch Cooking with Tyler Florence on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?amp; NCID=aolfod000302) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WHAT TIME IS IT?
Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care? About time? No I can't imagine why, we've all got time enough to cry Dan --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 7 Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:08:40 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wrong To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed the time my computer showed, right now it shows 8:08pm central time when sending this Looks good to me. Just like the last time. RLE ** Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch Cooking with Tyler Florence on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?amp; NCID=aolfod000302) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wrong
Don, More often than not this is caused by a desktop clock that is not set-up to auto-adjust for daylight savings time. This could be an issue with your machine or with Kaleb's machine is most likely Kaleb's machine, but is never an issue with the ISP. They just pass email traffic. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 9:05 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wrong This is Gmail's version of a header for this email - says 9:08 instead of 8:08. from Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] reply-toMercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com toMercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com date Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 9:08 PM subject Re: [MBZ] Wrong Must be a combination of Kaleb's ISP, and Google, and the others that are seeing the hour discrepancy. On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its something along the way them, my computer has the correct time John Robbins wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: the time my computer showed, right now it shows 8:08pm central time when sending this All your messages are an hour ahead on my computer as well. It has been like this for a long time... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.0.0/1489 - Release Date: 6/7/2008 11:17 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.0.0/1489 - Release Date: 6/7/2008 11:17 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wrong
Do you still save with a sharpened rock? On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 12:13 AM, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not I. Sylpheed on Fedora Core 4. Craig -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security
Andrew wrote: The other two were lousy campaigners. Wrong. The reason Romney is not the nominee is because of Mike Huckabee and democrats. MANY democrats in West Virgina voted for Huckabee so that Romney couldn't win. This started a snowball effect and it kept happening. Democrats didn't want Romney to get the nomination because they believed that Romney could attract the conservative base. It has however backfired. McCain is not my choice, but because he is the nominee, a number of disaffected democrats will vote for him. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300D head gasket
The head can be pressure tested without stripping it but you need keep all of the injectors glow plugs in place. But the head needs to be bolted down to a plate that had clearance for the prechamber ends. Also, the tech needs to know how to ID leak down issues caused by leaky injectors seals. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 9:00 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 87 300D head gasket And I suppose that we'll have to strip the head to send it to the shop - I was hoping to avoid having to borrow the pre-chamber puller, risk breaking exhaust studs, etc., but I guess it is the prudent thing to do - sigh. On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 9:15 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: with the head off you still need to send it off to be checked at the very least. Might be warped, might have cracks you cant see -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.0.0/1489 - Release Date: 6/7/2008 11:17 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.0.0/1489 - Release Date: 6/7/2008 11:17 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security
Have you ever attended church in West Virginia? I grew up in the state, and spent most of my non-school time (not by choice) at an Independent Fundamental Baptist Church. Do you see my point? I wasn't supposed to associate with even Southern Baptists, let alone Catholics. Dated a catholic girl once and my parents were looking for the sackcloth and ashes. A Morman? No way. Huckabee is to WV as Obama is to Harlem. On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 9:37 PM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wrong. The reason Romney is not the nominee is because of Mike Huckabee and democrats. MANY democrats in West Virgina voted for Huckabee so that Romney couldn't win. This started a snowball effect and it kept happening. Democrats didn't want Romney to get the nomination because they believed that Romney could attract the conservative base. It has however backfired. McCain is not my choice, but because he is the nominee, a number of disaffected democrats will vote for him. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb - 300SDL
Kaleb wrote: yea, has a bad head and a salvage title Ok. Nevermind. I just got rid of my 126 with a bad head. If I had the time and know how, it would be fine. But, I have less time than know how. So, I don't need any projects (as least not major ones). Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I just burn up $200 worth of diesel for a wild goose chase
I probably look at 50 or more Mercedes before buying one. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, Okiebenz Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 8:59 PM To: mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] I just burn up $200 worth of diesel for a wild goose chase I just got back from KC to pick up a 86 190D. Supposedly ran, but possible bad trans, body and interior in good shape. I get there, only to not be able to find the house because its in the boonies and not marked. I find what I suspect is the right driveway and try to call the people. (not going to go down some wierd driveway that I dont know what is down there). Cant get ahold of them. They guy comes by going to that driveway and I ask him if he knows where these people are, he doesnt. They finally call me back, and its the right drive. Huh, why didnt this guy who was going to their house put 2 and 2 together. So this wife is doing the selling of the car. The husband does not appear to know anything about anything. She was out of town. So he takes me down to where the car is (which I think was his fathers land) to see the car. We go past what I assume was his fathers house to get to the car, there was a truck in the drive which I later assumed was his fathers truck. More about that later. So I get to the car and discover its actually a 85, not an 86. I also discover it has huge rust holes where the jack points should be. Large rats nest under the hood, and will probalby need rewiring like I just went thru on my other 190D. So I tell the old boy that the car is not as described so my orginal offer would be lowered by x amount of dollars. He says its his fathers car and his father said to sell it for x amount (which I offered before). He said I drove all that way yada yada yada, I guess he figured I would just pay anyway and not go home empty handed. I then ask about the key, which was not in the car. I said I had a battery with me could see if it ran like they said it was supposed to. He didnt know anything about the key. He says call wife, I call her, she didnt know anything about the key either, but will call the father in law. Keep in mind we just past was I assume the fathers house. They cant get ahold of him. So, I told the guy (kid really), well I have wasted enough of my time and money on this trip, sorry it didnt work out and left. Fathers truck was not at the house anymore. you would think knowing I was showing up to get the car all these dumb asses would have got their crap together. If htye had a key, surely I would have made some kind of deal with them. I guess I learned my lesson, next time investigate more before going on a car buying trip. I should have known days ago, in emailing the wife about the car she said father in law knew more about it and she should have him call me. He never did. Oh well. 2nd bad car deal I have had this weekend. Went to the auction Saturday and bid and won a 93 chevy 3500 crew cab diesel for a fairly good deal. Was kind of beat up but would have made a good beater truck. $1400. Was sold with a phone call meaning it didnt meat the selling dealers reserve, so after the bidding they call the seller to see if they will take it or what. Nope, they wanted 3k for it. WAY too much. I passed. Waisted the whole damn weekend chasing my tail. Win some, loose some. Guess Im getting paybacks for that super deal I got on that wagon last week with the #17 head. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.0.0/1489 - Release Date: 6/7/2008 11:17 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.0.0/1489 - Release Date: 6/7/2008 11:17 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security
Wonko the Sane wrote: So, you are saying that your team will not bother to vote? Are you accusing me of being a Repugnant just because I voted for the neo-Fuhrer in 2000? I do think that when McLame was discussing a party change with the Dems in 2001 he should have done it. He's always been closer to the Demonrat platform than the Repugnant one. My team is at http://www.lp.org/ Unfortunately, they decided that since there was no Repugnant candidate still in the race they'd have to field one. Now my choices are limited to voting for the Repug in Libertarian clothing, Bob Barr (actually a better R choice than any who actually ran except for Ron Paul and Alan Keyes), writing in Ron Paul, or taking a look at whoever the Constitution Party nominates. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The miss is fixed!
That would also be good but I was talking about when you are pulling on the handle of the wrench to turn it. As it tightens and you have to pull harder you must also at the same time apply opposite pressure at the head of the wrench to keep the extension and the plug socket straight. Otherwise pulling on the handle hard tends to pull the extension out of line and when you pull real hard the force is transfered to the insulator and snaps it off sideways. Try putting the extension and socket on a bolt that is easily accessible and pull on the handle and see how the extension gets pulled out of line. You can even pull the whole socket off the bolt or nut sideways when pulling real hard. Manfred Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 13:21:05 -0500 From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] Manfred wrote: I don't think it was the torque value. It is due to the hard foam piece that holds the top end of the plug in the socket to keep it from falling out. If you pull on the wrench handle and don't keep the socket or extension straight in relation to the plug, with some down force at the wrench head as you pull up on the handle, then the foam will transfer the pressure to the insulator and break it. That is a good point. When I put the new ones on, I made sure to pull the wrench off straight. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT alternative forms of voter franchise
All that I do not consider as a dole. You paid in and the money coming out of the fund should be coming from the earnings on the investments that were made with it. You are also not disabled due to being too fat and not wanting to do anything but get money from the government for doing nothing and never having paid any money in to provide the principle for your retirement pay. There is a world of difference there! Now some would argue that you may live a few more years if you did loose a little weight, but then again I might live a few more years if I would just gain a few pounds. Too bad we can't just do a trade like with commodities or something. :-) Manfred Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 12:48:39 -0400 From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, you went from free speach to meddling there :=). Actually, I am considered totally disabled, but what I live on is the pension fund I paid into the years I worked and the SS disability I paid into all the years I worked. I'd have to argue about that being a public gift to me from the taxpayers. And I do vote. BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security
Donald Snook wrote: Democrats didn't want Romney to get the nomination because they believed that Romney could attract the conservative base. I thought they didn't want him because he could attract Demonrats and switch hitters. After all, he won a statewide election in the People's Republic of Massachusetts, from the same voters who keep putting Eddie Kennedy and John Kerry in the Senate. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security
That dumb off-the-cuff comment about 100 years in Iraq -- totally misinterpreted by the press and one that even I, a Democrat Party official could defend -- will be his downfall. And then there is going to be the Keating Five thing. McCain was probably blameless (we shall never know) but there will be some non-Party PAC ads that he will have to defend, taking him off-message. Now, if McCain can convince voters that he is more Dem the Rep, that might be his ace in the hole and could win him the election. That could shake off some of the Bush baggage that he will have to carry during the election cycle. As for the Libertarian candidate, I am pretty close to jumping to them from time to time. Still have the Party card in my wallet (I even paid them some $$$ a while back). If they were viable in the election it would be one thing. But since they aren't I need to go with someone who has a chance of winning. This election, there will be an Obama sign in my yard. On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wonko the Sane wrote: So, you are saying that your team will not bother to vote? Are you accusing me of being a Repugnant just because I voted for the neo-Fuhrer in 2000? I do think that when McLame was discussing a party change with the Dems in 2001 he should have done it. He's always been closer to the Demonrat platform than the Repugnant one. My team is at http://www.lp.org/ Unfortunately, they decided that since there was no Repugnant candidate still in the race they'd have to field one. Now my choices are limited to voting for the Repug in Libertarian clothing, Bob Barr (actually a better R choice than any who actually ran except for Ron Paul and Alan Keyes), writing in Ron Paul, or taking a look at whoever the Constitution Party nominates. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1995 SL500 ASR ABS Lamp On
That's even better! That way I can get rid of my GM and haul the big trailer with the MB instead of just using it for the small one. Manfred Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 07:37:02 +0930 From: Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes but only the prime mover version, with the turntable mounted on the boot lid. Hendrik ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security
Wonko the Sane wrote: If they were viable in the election it would be one thing. But since they aren't I need to go with someone who has a chance of winning. Thereby guaranteeing that they won't become viable, and we'll still be stuck with more of the same old crap. My fantasy is that Barry and Johnny will combine for less than 75% of the vote. I don't care what other candidates get the vote, as long as those two get less than 3/4. Less than 2/3 and I'd be ecstatic. Remember when everybody said Jesse Ventura didn't stand a chance, and all the Rs wanted him to step aside because he'd just get in the way of their candidate? He became governor of Minnesota. It can be done on a national level if the people who think the Rs and Ds gave them a choice between evils just refuse to vote for evil. I tried going that route in 2000, voting for what I believed to be the lesser evil. Boy, was I wrong about which evil was the lessor. Now I wish there were still a major party option as viable as lying Al Gore Jr. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel Jetta
84MPH is top speed on the 115 220D Manual..A whopping 2 more than the automatic...lol I've had it up to 75 and it's smooth as glass. I get the impression that it could cruise the highway at top speed for hours on end with a top off of oil for each tank of fuel. ;) Mike Top end was in the nineties for my 92. I never cruised over 75, tho-- noisy enough at that speed! Dan On Jun 7, 2008, at 9:33 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, that will actually run right along with our 220D manual. Probably faster on the top end by a mile thoughlol Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wrong
So just from curiosity what time did your clock or watch show when the computer showed 8:08PM? Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:08:40 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] the time my computer showed, right now it shows 8:08pm central time when sending this MG wrote: The question I want to ask is; Kaleb was that time of 8:16 that you wrote in the body of the message the time that your computer clock showed or was that the time on your watch or clock on the wall or radio/TV? Manfred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300D head gasket
http://www.gishart.com/sites/dover/index.htm OK Don wrote: And I suppose that we'll have to strip the head to send it to the shop - I was hoping to avoid having to borrow the pre-chamber puller, risk breaking exhaust studs, etc., but I guess it is the prudent thing to do - sigh. On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 9:15 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: with the head off you still need to send it off to be checked at the very least. Might be warped, might have cracks you cant see -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I just burn up $200 worth of diesel for a wild goose chase
It's about time! THIEF! :D Luther Quoting Kaleb C. Striplin, Okiebenz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: snip Guess Im getting paybacks for that super deal I got on that wagon last week with the #17 head. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (176 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I just burn up $200 worth of diesel for a wild goose chase
Im going to be cutting back my travel with these fuel prices the way they are, which means my inventory will probably drop. Still would love to get out your way though. Tom Hargrave wrote: I probably look at 50 or more Mercedes before buying one. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, Okiebenz Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 8:59 PM To: mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] I just burn up $200 worth of diesel for a wild goose chase I just got back from KC to pick up a 86 190D. Supposedly ran, but possible bad trans, body and interior in good shape. I get there, only to not be able to find the house because its in the boonies and not marked. I find what I suspect is the right driveway and try to call the people. (not going to go down some wierd driveway that I dont know what is down there). Cant get ahold of them. They guy comes by going to that driveway and I ask him if he knows where these people are, he doesnt. They finally call me back, and its the right drive. Huh, why didnt this guy who was going to their house put 2 and 2 together. So this wife is doing the selling of the car. The husband does not appear to know anything about anything. She was out of town. So he takes me down to where the car is (which I think was his fathers land) to see the car. We go past what I assume was his fathers house to get to the car, there was a truck in the drive which I later assumed was his fathers truck. More about that later. So I get to the car and discover its actually a 85, not an 86. I also discover it has huge rust holes where the jack points should be. Large rats nest under the hood, and will probalby need rewiring like I just went thru on my other 190D. So I tell the old boy that the car is not as described so my orginal offer would be lowered by x amount of dollars. He says its his fathers car and his father said to sell it for x amount (which I offered before). He said I drove all that way yada yada yada, I guess he figured I would just pay anyway and not go home empty handed. I then ask about the key, which was not in the car. I said I had a battery with me could see if it ran like they said it was supposed to. He didnt know anything about the key. He says call wife, I call her, she didnt know anything about the key either, but will call the father in law. Keep in mind we just past was I assume the fathers house. They cant get ahold of him. So, I told the guy (kid really), well I have wasted enough of my time and money on this trip, sorry it didnt work out and left. Fathers truck was not at the house anymore. you would think knowing I was showing up to get the car all these dumb asses would have got their crap together. If htye had a key, surely I would have made some kind of deal with them. I guess I learned my lesson, next time investigate more before going on a car buying trip. I should have known days ago, in emailing the wife about the car she said father in law knew more about it and she should have him call me. He never did. Oh well. 2nd bad car deal I have had this weekend. Went to the auction Saturday and bid and won a 93 chevy 3500 crew cab diesel for a fairly good deal. Was kind of beat up but would have made a good beater truck. $1400. Was sold with a phone call meaning it didnt meat the selling dealers reserve, so after the bidding they call the seller to see if they will take it or what. Nope, they wanted 3k for it. WAY too much. I passed. Waisted the whole damn weekend chasing my tail. Win some, loose some. Guess Im getting paybacks for that super deal I got on that wagon last week with the #17 head. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300D head gasket
I dont know about all that, I would ask they shop. I would give these guys a call OK Don wrote: And I suppose that we'll have to strip the head to send it to the shop - I was hoping to avoid having to borrow the pre-chamber puller, risk breaking exhaust studs, etc., but I guess it is the prudent thing to do - sigh. On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 9:15 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: with the head off you still need to send it off to be checked at the very least. Might be warped, might have cracks you cant see -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security
You know, I have never seen an obomo sign or sticker anywhere in the state of OK Wonko the Sane wrote: That dumb off-the-cuff comment about 100 years in Iraq -- totally misinterpreted by the press and one that even I, a Democrat Party official could defend -- will be his downfall. And then there is going to be the Keating Five thing. McCain was probably blameless (we shall never know) but there will be some non-Party PAC ads that he will have to defend, taking him off-message. Now, if McCain can convince voters that he is more Dem the Rep, that might be his ace in the hole and could win him the election. That could shake off some of the Bush baggage that he will have to carry during the election cycle. As for the Libertarian candidate, I am pretty close to jumping to them from time to time. Still have the Party card in my wallet (I even paid them some $$$ a while back). If they were viable in the election it would be one thing. But since they aren't I need to go with someone who has a chance of winning. This election, there will be an Obama sign in my yard. On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wonko the Sane wrote: So, you are saying that your team will not bother to vote? Are you accusing me of being a Repugnant just because I voted for the neo-Fuhrer in 2000? I do think that when McLame was discussing a party change with the Dems in 2001 he should have done it. He's always been closer to the Demonrat platform than the Repugnant one. My team is at http://www.lp.org/ Unfortunately, they decided that since there was no Repugnant candidate still in the race they'd have to field one. Now my choices are limited to voting for the Repug in Libertarian clothing, Bob Barr (actually a better R choice than any who actually ran except for Ron Paul and Alan Keyes), writing in Ron Paul, or taking a look at whoever the Constitution Party nominates. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wrong
808 MG wrote: So just from curiosity what time did your clock or watch show when the computer showed 8:08PM? Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:08:40 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] the time my computer showed, right now it shows 8:08pm central time when sending this MG wrote: The question I want to ask is; Kaleb was that time of 8:16 that you wrote in the body of the message the time that your computer clock showed or was that the time on your watch or clock on the wall or radio/TV? Manfred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Further OT politics, was America's Climate Security
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: You know, I have never seen an obomo sign or sticker anywhere in the state of OK In the around town driving I've done in Des Moines there have been a few. Haven't seen any McCain stickers though. I've seen one or two Obama stickers in Starkville, but that is a college town (bound to be more liberal than rural MS). John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
