[MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices
Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 1:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Today's Diesel Prices ** ** ** * **** * * *** U.S. Department of Energy** ** ** * Energy Information Administration * **** ******* To unsubscribe/change address, ** ** ** ** ** * see the message footnotes * * EIA, the Nation's clearinghouse for energy statistics. *** ** (NOTE: To best view this document, your email software should be set to view the item in an 80 character format, using a non-proportional font, e.g. courier) ** On-Highway Diesel Prices, by Week and PADD (Self Service Cash Price in Dollars per Gallon, Including Taxes) Diesel Prices Web URL: http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/wohdp/diesel.asp Average All Types US NATL EASTNEWCENTLOWER GULF ROCKY WEST DATE AVGCOAST ENGLAND ATL ATL MIDWEST COAST MTN COAST CA PADD PADDPADDPADDPADDPADD PADDPADD I IA IB IC II III IV V -- - - --- - - --- - - - - 081201 2.615 2.735 2.954 2.875 2.655 2.578 2.556 2.577 2.553 2.538 081124 2.664 2.788 2.997 2.925 2.710 2.624 2.598 2.644 2.608 2.605 081117 2.809 2.924 3.148 3.072 2.840 2.764 2.745 2.822 2.768 2.754 081110 2.944 3.060 3.266 3.203 2.980 2.888 2.895 2.964 2.910 2.913 081103 3.088 3.219 3.420 3.369 3.137 3.018 3.033 3.157 3.052 3.057 081027 3.288 3.397 3.573 3.509 3.333 3.244 3.219 3.375 3.233 3.286 081020 3.482 3.553 3.729 3.633 3.503 3.447 3.453 3.555 3.433 3.460 081013 3.659 3.709 3.892 3.794 3.655 3.641 3.631 3.697 3.622 3.656 081006 3.875 3.928 4.036 3.978 3.896 3.858 3.843 3.886 3.847 3.869 080929 3.959 4.020 4.077 4.073 3.992 3.936 3.929 3.944 3.941 3.963 080922 3.958 4.021 4.110 4.081 3.987 3.931 3.924 3.964 3.943 3.951 080915 4.023 4.082 4.246 4.166 4.031 3.973 4.011 4.041 4.056 4.053 080908 4.059 4.100 4.312 4.246 4.018 4.015 4.015 4.105 4.156 4.185 080901 4.121 4.169 4.359 4.307 4.093 4.066 4.068 4.184 4.248 4.282 080825 4.145 4.199 4.382 4.360 4.113 4.073 4.098 4.227 4.286 4.359 080818 4.207 4.263 4.422 4.414 4.184 4.130 4.156 4.319 4.356 4.422 080811 4.353 4.420 4.584 4.563 4.344 4.267 4.299 4.473 4.511 4.607 080804 4.502 4.563 4.735 4.672 4.501 4.419 4.450 4.605 4.664 4.781 080728 4.603 4.664 4.806 4.772 4.604 4.518 4.570 4.657 4.766 4.869 080721 4.718 4.773 4.869 4.869 4.723 4.649 4.701 4.714 4.845 4.964 080714 4.764 4.822 4.889 4.912 4.777 4.698 4.737 4.718 4.909 5.026 080707 4.727 4.789 4.863 4.887 4.741 4.654 4.697 4.672 4.886 5.001 080630 4.645 4.704 4.822 4.822 4.643 4.571 4.604 4.638 4.817 4.928 080623 4.648 4.711 4.833 4.831 4.648 4.574 4.602 4.652 4.816 4.922 080616 4.692 4.752 4.853 4.874 4.690 4.618 4.656 4.685 4.852 4.969 080609 4.692 4.743 4.834 4.879 4.677 4.615 4.658 4.698 4.874 4.992 080602 4.707 4.759 4.846 4.907 4.687 4.643 4.664 4.680 4.878 5.027 080526 4.723 4.779 4.843 4.913 4.717 4.667 4.673 4.653 4.883 5.027 080519 4.497 4.544 4.610 4.682 4.480 4.463 4.443 4.442 4.610 4.737 080512 4.331 4.377 4.463 4.516 4.310 4.298 4.268 4.276 4.454 4.547 080505 4.149 4.194 4.337 4.345 4.117 4.101 4.084 4.156 4.303 4.382 080428 4.177 4.230 4.346 4.376 4.157 4.133 4.113 4.141 4.312 4.390 080421 4.143 4.207 4.346 4.370 4.126 4.098 4.077 4.111 4.255 4.317 080414 4.059 4.117 4.239 4.266 4.043 4.013 4.000 4.039 4.176 4.234 080407 3.955 4.005 4.121 4.142 3.936 3.917 3.894 3.974 4.052 4.118 080331 3.964 4.014 4.130 4.160 3.941 3.929 3.907 3.972 4.049 4.112 080324 3.989 4.045 4.142 4.186 3.975 3.964 3.928 3.953 4.056 4.119 080317 3.974 4.035 4.119 4.177 3.967 3.958 3.914 3.892 4.018 4.083 080310 3.819 3.870 3.938 3.989 3.814 3.784 3.798 3.732 3.885 3.955 080303 3.658 3.700 3.813 3.825 3.636 3.639 3.609 3.573 3.736 3.803 080225 3.552 3.608 3.710 3.693 3.562 3.525 3.510 3.473 3.609 3.672 080218 3.396 3.444 3.588 3.526 3.396 3.365 3.367 3.350
Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper
Loren wrote: I have yet to see an American car go over 400k without the engine being worn out. When I was at the dealership, my wife worked at a local wholesale pharmacy. They delivered drugs to hospitals/clinics/labs etc. all over the Midwest. I convinced them that they should get their cars serviced at my shop. I offered them $10 oil changes and I wined and dined the head of their fleet. Pretty soon, we were doing all of their work and then they started buying cars from our used car department. They purchased a bunch of Oldsmobile Achievas (it was an Olds/Honda dealership). Most of the cars had the Quad 4 engine and then later models had the 3.1 V6 (M motor). All of those cars had more than 400,000 miles on them. We did replace 1-2 transmissions, and of course, alternators, water pumps, and various other bits. We never had any a/c problems and never once had an engine crap out. Now, they beat these cars all to hell. The driver's seats would be worn, and things like power window motors would go bad. But, they were great cars. They had several that crossed over 500,000 miles. I think one of them got to 600,000 miles. Nearly all of them were retired because they wrecked them. I don't remember a single one that just wore out. Then, they started buying Oldsmobile Intrigues. They loved those cars. The 3.8 engine was so much more powerful (and about the same in terms of fuel mileage). The 3.8 was replaced with the shortstar - a 6 cylinder version of the Northstar. They loved those cars. The only problem with the intrigues was that they would start consuming 1-2 qts of oil after they had 300,000 miles BUT only if they drove them more than 6-7,000 miles between changes. All of these cars made it to 400-500,000 miles. Finally, the used car department got in a bunch 12-15 Ford Windstar vans and the pharmacy bought those and started replacing the Achievas and Intrigues with the vans. I also had a 1984 Olds Delta 88 with over 370,000 miles on it. I traded it in on a 1985 Olds 98. The old delta was running great, I just wanted another car. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper
Ok Don wrote: I might find out if they wil go the distance - one of them has over 330,000 miles already, but sure doesn't act like it. The other one has got to be getting close. I am convinced that those are the MB diesels that will set the mileage marks. And they are such fun to drive, it wouldn't be bad driving them at 600,000 miles. Assuming (as someone mentioned) that the rest of the body doesn't fall apart. Your 300D 2.5 also proves one of Marshall's old mantras wrong. He said Mercedes diesel auto trannys only lasted 150-200,000. I know at least one of yours has (at least) 250,000 on the original tranny. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] oh boy!!
Springfield? My home town! I am surprised I have never seen that car. Are you searching for cars in Springfield? Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://springfield.craigslist.org/cto/936324292.html Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper
Donald Snook wrote: We did replace 1-2 transmissions, and of course, alternators, water pumps, and various other bits. How much did a water pump on a quad 4 run, $700? Did they have any 2.4 Twin Cams before they started buying V6s? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper
Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Your 300D 2.5 also proves one of Marshall's old mantras wrong. He said Mercedes diesel auto trannys only lasted 150-200,000. I know at least one of yours has (at least) 250,000 on the original tranny. I wonder how much of that statistic is influenced by the B2 defect, and people junking otherwise serviceable transmissions due to a repairable problem. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Mac Pros used in supercomputer [Fw: Fw: Tech Briefs INSIDER 12/01/08]
yeah, 10 years ago the Federal Ames lab was building supercomputers using a grid made up of new Macs. I think it was G3s at the time. At the time I knew the name of the grid OS they were using. At 09:14 PM 12/1/2008, you wrote: There was talk last week about Mac Pros ... Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 10:46:24 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Tech Briefs INSIDER 12/01/08 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * SUPERCOMPUTING Five years ago, Virginia Tech burst onto the high-performance computing scene using Apple Power Mac G5 computers to build System X, one of the fastest supercomputers of its time. Recently, Kirk Cameron and Srinidhi Varadarajan, two professors of computer science in Virginia Tech's College of Engineering, architected a new supercomputer, called System G, that is twice as fast as its predecessor. System G clocks in at an incredible 22.8 TFlops (or trillion operations per second). And keeping with tradition, though bid under a competitive contract, the machine consists of 325 Mac Pro computers, each with two 4-core 2.8 gigahertz (GHz) Intel Xeon processors and eight gigabytes (GB) of random access memory (RAM). Most high-performance computing systems research is conducted at small scales of 32, 64, or at most 128 nodes. Larger machines are typically used in production mode where experimental software is anathema to the end user focused on solving fundamental problems in computational science and engineering. System G was sponsored in part by the National Science Foundation and the Center for High End Computing Systems (CHECS) to address the gap in scale between research and production machines. The purpose of System G is to provide a research platform for the development of high-performance software tools and applications with extreme efficiency at scale. Read the full story at http://link.abpi.net/1.php?20081201A6 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --- Craig McCluskey Present: 1982 240D/3.0 (Euro 1984 617.912 engine, 4-speed) 250 kmi 1994 E420 117 kmi Past: 1964 190Dc 1972 220D/8 1972 220/8 1987 190E/2.3 /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN Friends don't send friends X AGAINST HTML MAIL HTML email. / \ AND POSTINGS http://www.fred.net/tds/longrange.html http://pruffle.mit.edu/~ccarter/I_do_not_use_microsoft.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper
It sounds like they racked up a lot of highway miles. over the road fleet usage is different than ordinary usage too. What was the average mileage of all cars in your service dept? At 08:33 AM 12/2/2008, you wrote: Loren wrote: I have yet to see an American car go over 400k without the engine being worn out. When I was at the dealership, my wife worked at a local wholesale pharmacy. They delivered drugs to hospitals/clinics/labs etc. all over the Midwest. I convinced them that they should get their cars serviced at my shop. I offered them $10 oil changes and I wined and dined the head of their fleet. Pretty soon, we were doing all of their work and then they started buying cars from our used car department. They purchased a bunch of Oldsmobile Achievas (it was an Olds/Honda dealership). Most of the cars had the Quad 4 engine and then later models had the 3.1 V6 (M motor). All of those cars had more than 400,000 miles on them. We did replace 1-2 transmissions, and of course, alternators, water pumps, and various other bits. We never had any a/c problems and never once had an engine crap out. Now, they beat these cars all to hell. The driver's seats would be worn, and things like power window motors would go bad. But, they were great cars. They had several that crossed over 500,000 miles. I think one of them got to 600,000 miles. Nearly all of them were retired because they wrecked them. I don't remember a single one that just wore out. Then, they started buying Oldsmobile Intrigues. They loved those cars. The 3.8 engine was so much more powerful (and about the same in terms of fuel mileage). The 3.8 was replaced with the shortstar - a 6 cylinder version of the Northstar. They loved those cars. The only problem with the intrigues was that they would start consuming 1-2 qts of oil after they had 300,000 miles BUT only if they drove them more than 6-7,000 miles between changes. All of these cars made it to 400-500,000 miles. Finally, the used car department got in a bunch 12-15 Ford Windstar vans and the pharmacy bought those and started replacing the Achievas and Intrigues with the vans. I also had a 1984 Olds Delta 88 with over 370,000 miles on it. I traded it in on a 1985 Olds 98. The old delta was running great, I just wanted another car. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Just another day...
That does look a bit like a MB lot. Wish it was mine. I've just got my trusty [usually] and not at all rusty '81 300SD. The only change I'd really like to make is adding an SDL to the 'fleet.' BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Robbins Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 9:45 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Just another day... Working on the MB's. The E300 and SDL (hood up) are a friend's... John -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_0374_s.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 716108 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20081201/0c 7a958a/attachment.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 37, Issue 9
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lots of cars can beat seven seconds these days. Getting under five is not quite so easy. I wonder what the 0-60 times were on these? http://www.powerblocktv.com/50fastest.html From what I can remember of the Car and Driver numbers, the 6.3 would qualify for the list if it was made in USA. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper
Years ago, the local Dominos franchise maintained a fleet of delivery cars. We settled on trucks bought Toyotas, Fords Nissans over the years. Of all of them, the Fords lasted ran the longest with many of them going well over 300,000 miles! Some ran over 500,000 miles. The secret was regular service a requirement for the store Manager to check the oil level every morning. The trucks stayed on the road from open to close and we easily put 50,000+ miles a year on each one. This was in the early 80's and not a small franchise. From memory, we had between 30 40 trucks on the road. We lost a few transmissions rear differentials and quite a few starters, alternators water pumps. I don't remember loosing an engine. My biggest complaint? The door latches window regulators would wear out! Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 8:34 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper Loren wrote: I have yet to see an American car go over 400k without the engine being worn out. When I was at the dealership, my wife worked at a local wholesale pharmacy. They delivered drugs to hospitals/clinics/labs etc. all over the Midwest. I convinced them that they should get their cars serviced at my shop. I offered them $10 oil changes and I wined and dined the head of their fleet. Pretty soon, we were doing all of their work and then they started buying cars from our used car department. They purchased a bunch of Oldsmobile Achievas (it was an Olds/Honda dealership). Most of the cars had the Quad 4 engine and then later models had the 3.1 V6 (M motor). All of those cars had more than 400,000 miles on them. We did replace 1-2 transmissions, and of course, alternators, water pumps, and various other bits. We never had any a/c problems and never once had an engine crap out. Now, they beat these cars all to hell. The driver's seats would be worn, and things like power window motors would go bad. But, they were great cars. They had several that crossed over 500,000 miles. I think one of them got to 600,000 miles. Nearly all of them were retired because they wrecked them. I don't remember a single one that just wore out. Then, they started buying Oldsmobile Intrigues. They loved those cars. The 3.8 engine was so much more powerful (and about the same in terms of fuel mileage). The 3.8 was replaced with the shortstar - a 6 cylinder version of the Northstar. They loved those cars. The only problem with the intrigues was that they would start consuming 1-2 qts of oil after they had 300,000 miles BUT only if they drove them more than 6-7,000 miles between changes. All of these cars made it to 400-500,000 miles. Finally, the used car department got in a bunch 12-15 Ford Windstar vans and the pharmacy bought those and started replacing the Achievas and Intrigues with the vans. I also had a 1984 Olds Delta 88 with over 370,000 miles on it. I traded it in on a 1985 Olds 98. The old delta was running great, I just wanted another car. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1823 - Release Date: 12/1/2008 7:59 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1823 - Release Date: 12/1/2008 7:59 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper
Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Years ago, the local Dominos franchise maintained a fleet of delivery cars. We settled on trucks bought Toyotas, Fords Nissans over the years. Of all of them, the Fords lasted ran the longest with many of them going well over 300,000 miles! Some ran over 500,000 miles. The secret was regular service a requirement for the store Manager to check the oil level every morning. The trucks stayed on the road from open to close and we easily put 50,000+ miles a year on each one. When I worked at Dominos we had mostly driver-owned cars, but our store had one franchise-owned Ford Escort and one Subaru (don't remember the model, it was a hatchback). The Escort was trouble-free, only in the shop for regular maintenance and brakes. The Subaru was in the shop more than on the road it seemed, always some kind of problem, the 4WD was troublesome too and we were instructed to never engage it unless we were stuck in a snowbank. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Travel funnies
Yes I know that area. Back in the 80s people were restoring those houses, most of them were all run down and being overrun. There are a couple of other neat areas around town too, with some big old houses. Even the last time I was there 20 yr ago those areas and the houses were slowly being destroyed, unfortunately. That is why suburban sprawl started there, back in the 80s. Beechnut Circle has some cool old mansions ( I knew a girl who lived in one), and out by Foster Park is an area with some cool houses too, there is one Frank Lloyd Wright house there. Some kids in my high school class lived in that area, one next door to that house (or maybe in it, I forget). I should go back sometime, check things out. I think some of my old high school friends still live there. --R Peter Frederick wrote: Yeah, it is nice. Not expensive as a hotel, either. My college buddy's parents live in the Town House retirement place (I think it's on Washington Center Boulevard or something, same street as the GuestHouse). The ritzy section we toured is right off downtown along the river. Lovely old houses, surely a century or more old by now. Probably impossible to heat, but you can't build anything like that now! Peter On Dec 1, 2008, at 9:53 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Halls! Gas House! I used to go to that place with my parents. Very swanky. There were a couple others around too. What is the rich peoples' district? There were a couple. --R Peter Frederick wrote: Some of it has changed, some hasn't. Chappel's is remodeling the old restaurant downtown and has a new place on the north end (quite nice for us since we stay at Don Hall's Guesthouse just down the road). Lots of new stuff downtown -- new convention center, new big library. We drove through the old rich people's houses district, and it's untouched. If I were rich, sigh. Lots of suburban sprawl, though. Peter On Dec 1, 2008, at 6:45 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: I grew up, er, rather, spent my earlier years in the Fort. --R Peter Frederick wrote: This trip (to Ft. Wayne, IN, about 300 miles each way) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper
We had both. We maintained a fleet of company cars because it saved money long term. We finally got rid of them when rising insurance costs overtook the savings. Also, drivers hated them - they would rather drive their own cars. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 9:05 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Years ago, the local Dominos franchise maintained a fleet of delivery cars. We settled on trucks bought Toyotas, Fords Nissans over the years. Of all of them, the Fords lasted ran the longest with many of them going well over 300,000 miles! Some ran over 500,000 miles. The secret was regular service a requirement for the store Manager to check the oil level every morning. The trucks stayed on the road from open to close and we easily put 50,000+ miles a year on each one. When I worked at Dominos we had mostly driver-owned cars, but our store had one franchise-owned Ford Escort and one Subaru (don't remember the model, it was a hatchback). The Escort was trouble-free, only in the shop for regular maintenance and brakes. The Subaru was in the shop more than on the road it seemed, always some kind of problem, the 4WD was troublesome too and we were instructed to never engage it unless we were stuck in a snowbank. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1823 - Release Date: 12/1/2008 7:59 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1823 - Release Date: 12/1/2008 7:59 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kinda OT Brake Pads
Akebono Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 8:39 PM Subject: [MBZ] Kinda OT Brake Pads Time for brakes on the Explorer. I want good stopping power and long life. I am either going with factory Motorcraft, heavy duty Motorcraft or ceramic Akebono. Opinions? Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper
Tom Hargrave wrote: Years ago, the local Dominos franchise maintained a fleet of delivery cars. We settled on trucks bought Toyotas, Fords Nissans over the years. Of all of them, the Fords lasted ran the longest with many of them going well over 300,000 miles! I guess somehow the franchisee managed to get his employees to give a darn. Around 85-89 I saw a lot of Rangers in corporate stores. I don't recall them actually dying, but they were turned into rolling piles of crap within 50,000 miles, each and every one. Some were V6 4x4s with snow plows, those could not have been cheap (and totally pointless, it was the landlords' job to plow the parking lots, so we just took the plows off and stashed them behind the stores). Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT business idea
Hey Tim, Great reading!! The problem with storing the grounds is that they stink. This calls for daily pickup. The non coffee-related organic waste stream would be split into two: animal (for biodiesle) and vegetable (inc. eggshells) for composting. How to effect this practice in the restaurant community (other than using different color bins) will require a learning curve. On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 9:11 PM, Tim C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since you asked... First, let's mention from the other mail: By using the term business model I am not suggesting that a profit can be turned on the composting of garbage! I think the '90s proved that unprofitable business models don't work. If you want to run a charity then take donations. My local D.C. Whole Foods has its own liquid composter just outside the store to handle cabbage leaves and other trimmings from the produce department. WF sells the fiished compost for a good price. WF has an ideal audience, which will pay a markup for organic *. That's great for getting rid of a few hundred pounds of compost, but as someone else mentioned you're competing against $2/40 lb. at home improvement stores, and given the likely volume you'll have to play in that market. You can have a small markup because it's organic, but more than that and people are going to bail. You can see the ideal markup at your locally-owned grocery store, around here it's 30-40%. You probably have to get various permits for handling waste foodstuffs. Maybe even join the trash collectors' union. Buy a business license. So on. Now, to ways to make it work. First, it's a lot easier to break even if you get the restaurants to pay you to take their organic refuse. You have a couple ways to do this (not sure how DC works), calculating cost is an exercise for the reader: 1) point of a gun - get the city to ban organic waste in the regular garbage, at least for restaurants. Keep it quiet until it is done. (If you want a story I'll tell you how my county banned dogs for poor people.) I hate this method but it works... sort of, in the short term. 2) marketing - make an environmentally-super web site (biodiesel/biomass generator to power the server would be a nice touch) that blabs on and on about waste reduction. Carbon offset the whole thing and make a big deal about it. Make a collection of big-to- small signs to give your customers : Beans environmentally managed by andrew.com Figure out a way to attach them cleanly (magnets? Bumper sticker paper?). Advertise in the 'liberal' newspapers. Include a big list of your current customers. If you like the research idea (below) make a big deal about some percent of profit invested in clean technologies or whatever. Downside of #2 is opening operating costs, I'd suggest you run the first year as a sole proprietor and write down your taxes for the year, but that's between you and your tax professional. You also will probably have to 'give' the first few restaurants free pickup for some years. Downside of #1 is if you fail, you fail big, and you'll -have- to go with #2, but the investment is low. You'll also tick off a lot of restaurants, so use a shill if you can, otherwise you'll have trouble getting customers if you have to fall back to #2. So, you have restaurants lined up to give you something, maybe even pay you to take it away. Rule 1 is to only take what you can use, in your case I'd suggest only take coffee beans and filters, and perhaps receipt papers (if the coffee machine is up front it just makes sense). You can always expand to 'all' compost, but for now it's a lot easier to just focus on one thing. Rule 2 is to make it really really easy for the restaurants. I'd suggest providing two particular color/style cans for next to the coffee machine, easy bulk storage bin (wheeled 55g drums?), and fixed and obvious pickup schedule a few hours before closing. Make sure your containers are -sealed- and preferably -stainless steel- so the restaurants don't take a health department hit. If they don't like you they'll get another provider, ideals only go so far. Now, you have restaurants collecting coffee grounds for you, in convenient 55-gallon sealed tubs. On to the pickup. You can probably do two per day, one on the way to work and one on the way home, so say 8 per week (one day for catch-up). I'm assuming a nice veggie/bio Benz wagon, no passengers, and only 1-2 55-gallon containers per week per store, able to be carried horizontally. You're not going too far out of your normal way to work, so far your only recurring cost is insurance and the incremental cost of transporting the coffee weight, as well as disposal (below). Let's take a flight of fancy for a bit and assume you have something to do with all these coffee grounds. How do you expand? To me, this sounds like a good use of multi-level marketing.
Re: [MBZ] OT business idea - was Biodiesel *processor* for under $3k
I thought most of the oil is in the brew. On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:21 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So - how do you extract the oil from the used grounds? We throw away a LOT of grounds from the employee lounge coffee machine at work --- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper
Nope, the drivers rode them hard. BTW, all were 4 cylinders with automatic transmissions, none were 4X4 we don't have snow plows here in the South. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 9:32 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper Tom Hargrave wrote: Years ago, the local Dominos franchise maintained a fleet of delivery cars. We settled on trucks bought Toyotas, Fords Nissans over the years. Of all of them, the Fords lasted ran the longest with many of them going well over 300,000 miles! I guess somehow the franchisee managed to get his employees to give a darn. Around 85-89 I saw a lot of Rangers in corporate stores. I don't recall them actually dying, but they were turned into rolling piles of crap within 50,000 miles, each and every one. Some were V6 4x4s with snow plows, those could not have been cheap (and totally pointless, it was the landlords' job to plow the parking lots, so we just took the plows off and stashed them behind the stores). Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1823 - Release Date: 12/1/2008 7:59 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1823 - Release Date: 12/1/2008 7:59 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Hammie proves himself worthy
Last night going home from work my 190D Dory started making some ugly noises. Sounds to me like a wheel bearing, you might recall a couple months ago I blew the left front wheel bearing. I thought my Indy did both at that time. Anyway it was a humming kind of noise that came and went. Might be related to by snowtires (put them on Friday and didn't drive the car) or might not. At any rate it DOES have a bad link in the rear suspension (nice catch Loren). So today I drove Hammie my '83 240D to work. (Can't take the Ranger as its getting its dealer prep today) Last night I prepped, added a quart of oil, about 2 quarts of coolant (which should fix the heat soak I was seeing when parked) and aired up the tires. The only issues I had were: #1. I opened the butterfly valve in the intake last night and managed to wedge the throttle so I had no go pedal this morning. Removed the throttle linkage that went to the valve and pedal came back to normal. #2. Everybody seemed to want to test the brakes. They work fine thank you very much but please stop pulling out in front of me. #3. The car has sat and built up significant moisture (the front window seal leaked for awhile and the rear still does) which had frozen to the sunroof the liner for which is in my garage so when the car warmed up in rained inside. #4. The temp gauge kept making forays into the 90C range (above 80 but below the next peg anyway) although that seemed to smooth out as I neared work (55 miles). I think the coolant had gotten so low a little water had gotten into the system (I hadn't checked it even when I got the car back in May) so maybe it just needed to burp. I will continue to monitor. The car does feel peppier than I remember and even more so now that I've opened that valve. Anybody with an '82-'83 240D would do well to remove the aircleaner, find that valve and stick it open, at low speeds with it closed I think the car does run out of air... I kept my speed down to 70mph for the most part but did have a couple runs up near 75mph with no significant rumble, shake, shudder or anything. The car does feel more ponderous than my 190D but thats probably normal. I does probably need an alignment too... Anyway, onward! -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Just another day...
You HAVE a 2.5 IF you'll get off your lazy arse and INSTALL THE ENGINE! Sheesh. Luther Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I need that 2.5 John Robbins wrote: Working on the MB's. The E300 and SDL (hood up) are a friend's... John -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT business idea - was Biodiesel *processor* for under $3k
andrew strasfogel wrote: I thought most of the oil is in the brew. I thought this discussion started with the revelation that spent grounds are 15% oil by weight. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT business idea - was Biodiesel *processor* for under $3k
I see. Maybe that's why they smell so rank... On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: I thought most of the oil is in the brew. I thought this discussion started with the revelation that spent grounds are 15% oil by weight. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper
Mitch wrote: How much did a water pump on a quad 4 run, $700? Did they have any 2.4 Twin Cams before they started buying V6s? I don't think the water pump was that much. I would guess more like $400. I don't remember any of the 2.4 engines. I liked the Quad 4 and the 3.1 V6, so usually before they bought one, they would bring it back to me to look at. The 2.4 was only in some of the last years of the Achievas and if they had one it was only 1-2. Donald H. Snook 1993 Cadillac Sedan Deville. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper
Loren wrote: What was the average mileage of all cars in your service dept? I have no idea. We had such a broad spectrum of vehicles. We had practically new GMC pickups (we used to be the GMC dealer and the factory authorized us to do warranty work for 2 years after we sold the cars), we also had LOTS of old people with 10 year old cars with few miles. We also did warranty work on just about every GM line (except Cadillac) because we had the best dealer satisfaction ratings in the Midwest. It was also a long time dealership, so our Dealer got a lot of what he wanted when it came to GM. I can say with certainty that the Achievas had the most miles on them. But, I also remember LOTS of 1988-98 Oldsmobiles, Pontiacs, Buicks, and Cadillacs with 150,000-250,000 miles on them. In fact, I bought a few of these cars when the customer traded them in. With the exception of the Achievas, I would say the 1988-95 Olds 88 and 98 had the best reliability and were the most popular cars that we worked on. Since we were a Oldsmobile dealer, we had lots of Oldsmobile work. If I had to guess, I would say that most of our cars were in the 75,000-100,000 miles range - at least at the end of my time. This is probably a little higher than a lot of shops, but Oldsmobile quit making the 98, then the 88 and a lot of the old folks didn't want to change. Then, GM killed Oldsmobile. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper
Oh man, you just reminded me... In college one summer I worked for an auto radiator wholesaler as a delivery driver. We had a couple early '90s Isuzu pickups and one time in August I'd driven way up north (Lincoln, Maine I think) to drop off a rad. When I dropped it off it was raining so I rolled up the window, when I got back in and went to roll it down the regulator bound and the hand crank for the window broke off. I went inside and borrowed a pair of channel locks and rolled the window down a couple inches but didn't dare roll it down all the way because it'd been raining off and on but was wicked hot. On the way home it POURED. I probably drove 200 miles in flooding pouring rain with the window 1/4 down. The worst was when a big truck would go by and hit a puddle... -Curt Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 09:00:16 -0600 From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain;Â Â Â charset=windows-1250 Years ago, the local Dominos franchise maintained a fleet of delivery cars. We settled on trucks bought Toyotas, Fords Nissans over the years. Of all of them, the Fords lasted ran the longest with many of them going well over 300,000 miles! Some ran over 500,000 miles. The secret was regular service a requirement for the store Manager to check the oil level every morning. The trucks stayed on the road from open to close and we easily put 50,000+ miles a year on each one. This was in the early 80's and not a small franchise. From memory, we had between 30 40 trucks on the road. We lost a few transmissions rear differentials and quite a few starters, alternators water pumps. I don't remember loosing an engine. My biggest complaint? The door latches window regulators would wear out! Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Next car
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/aptera-hybrid.htm http://www.aptera.com/index.php Since SWMBA will not purchase another Benz, I guess I will have to get this -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT business idea - was Biodiesel *processor* for under $3k
http://tinyurl.com/6mb4ks This looks like a good idea. Maybe it would be another for the mix of fuel choices. Just need to get somebody to scale it up clay On Dec 2, 2008, at 7:39 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: I thought most of the oil is in the brew. On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:21 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So - how do you extract the oil from the used grounds? We throw away a LOT of grounds from the employee lounge coffee machine at work --- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Just another day...
Well, now its getting cold so i desperatly need to clean out my garage so I can get cars in there to work on during the winter Luther wrote: You HAVE a 2.5 IF you'll get off your lazy arse and INSTALL THE ENGINE! Sheesh. Luther Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I need that 2.5 John Robbins wrote: Working on the MB's. The E300 and SDL (hood up) are a friend's... John -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1824 - Release Date: 12/2/2008 9:31 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper
do they not make olds anymore? Donald Snook wrote: Loren wrote: What was the average mileage of all cars in your service dept? I have no idea. We had such a broad spectrum of vehicles. We had practically new GMC pickups (we used to be the GMC dealer and the factory authorized us to do warranty work for 2 years after we sold the cars), we also had LOTS of old people with 10 year old cars with few miles. We also did warranty work on just about every GM line (except Cadillac) because we had the best dealer satisfaction ratings in the Midwest. It was also a long time dealership, so our Dealer got a lot of what he wanted when it came to GM. I can say with certainty that the Achievas had the most miles on them. But, I also remember LOTS of 1988-98 Oldsmobiles, Pontiacs, Buicks, and Cadillacs with 150,000-250,000 miles on them. In fact, I bought a few of these cars when the customer traded them in. With the exception of the Achievas, I would say the 1988-95 Olds 88 and 98 had the best reliability and were the most popular cars that we worked on. Since we were a Oldsmobile dealer, we had lots of Oldsmo bile work. If I had to guess, I would say that most of our cars were in the 75,000-100,000 miles range - at least at the end of my time. This is probably a little higher than a lot of shops, but Oldsmobile quit making the 98, then the 88 and a lot of the old folks didn't want to change. Then, GM killed Oldsmobile. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1824 - Release Date: 12/2/2008 9:31 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper
Donald Snook wrote: I don't think the water pump was that much. I would guess more like $400. OK, thanks for the info. When I bought my 2.4L 1997 Achieva I had assumed the water pump would be a 20 minute job like a twin cam Saturn, then after I owned it I started hearing stories like after you replace a water pump on one of those, you'll be glad to pay the dealer $700 to do the next one for you (but those stories were mainly about z24 Cavaliers, which might be even harder to do timing chain and water pump on than a Achieva). Here's my Achieva coolant tale of woe. Made the deal with a pair of Chinese students who were going to Berkley in a couple of days. They wanted to keep the car for the evening to run some final errands. Got a friend to drive it home, and waited for the Chinese couple to return. When they showed up, I could smell antifreeze, seemed to be coming from the Achieva. Drove it for a month, occasionally smelling coolant, but never finding anything obvious. Finally it cut loose at a gas station 20 miles from home. Big puddle of Dex-cool under it. Problem was the plastic water outlet, it had crumbled away where it's supposed to support the o-ring seal. Bought a new one at Autocrapzone. Went in easier than I expected, not tight at all. Jump forward a couple of months, and I'm losing coolant again. I can't find any leaks when I've been driving it, but it will dump a gallon overnight sometimes (eventually figured out it dumped like mad in freezing weather). Finally parked it in a garage and waited until it got cold enough to leak again, the problem was my new undersized water outlet, getting more undersized when it was really cold. I put it back in with a new o-ring and a healthy coating of Hylomar, holding up so far, but I think I'll buy a factory water outlet next time I order from GMpartsdirect.com. My local stealer wanted more than MSRP for that part, which is why I bought it from Autozone for 40% of their price. I wasted enough G-05 in the past month to more than pay for the savings on that $15 Autozone water outlet. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Next car
Redghost wrote: http://auto.howstuffworks.com/aptera-hybrid.htm The Pulse was made about 60 miles away from where I live. Good mpg, but only high double digits. An East Lansing motel used to use one for an airport shuttle when they only had one passenger. http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2008/03/10/a-pair-of-owosso-pulse-gcrvs-for-sale/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: do they not make olds anymore? IIRC, the 2004 model year was the end of the line. I'd kind of like to have a 4 cylinder, five speed 2004 Alero, but the 4cyl is kind of rare, and the 5sp are as common as hen's teeth. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper
They are killing Pontiac next. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 1:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: do they not make olds anymore? IIRC, the 2004 model year was the end of the line. I'd kind of like to have a 4 cylinder, five speed 2004 Alero, but the 4cyl is kind of rare, and the 5sp are as common as hen's teeth. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Next car
I put down a deposit maybe a year ago and they refunded it a few months later when they decided you had to be a resident of California to purchase the vehicle. -Dave Walton On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://auto.howstuffworks.com/aptera-hybrid.htm http://www.aptera.com/index.php Since SWMBA will not purchase another Benz, I guess I will have to get this -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT business idea - was Biodiesel *processor* for under $3k
Great article! Sounds like a winning scale-up candidate, although one wonders about the energy balance since methanol and KOH are required, and each consumes energy in the manufacturing process... On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://tinyurl.com/6mb4ks This looks like a good idea. Maybe it would be another for the mix of fuel choices. Just need to get somebody to scale it up clay On Dec 2, 2008, at 7:39 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: I thought most of the oil is in the brew. On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:21 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So - how do you extract the oil from the used grounds? We throw away a LOT of grounds from the employee lounge coffee machine at work --- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Just another day...
Kaleb, you were going to check whether the SR I ordered had been shipped. On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Well, now its getting cold so i desperatly need to clean out my garage so I can get cars in there to work on during the winter Luther wrote: You HAVE a 2.5 IF you'll get off your lazy arse and INSTALL THE ENGINE! Sheesh. Luther Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I need that 2.5 John Robbins wrote: Working on the MB's. The E300 and SDL (hood up) are a friend's... John -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1824 - Release Date: 12/2/2008 9:31 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Finback? Adenaur? Parts on CL. Some old rustbucket.
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Re: [MBZ] Next car
Boy, when I saw next car I just assumed it was Snook again. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of dave walton Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 1:12 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Next car I put down a deposit maybe a year ago and they refunded it a few months later when they decided you had to be a resident of California to purchase the vehicle. -Dave Walton On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://auto.howstuffworks.com/aptera-hybrid.htm http://www.aptera.com/index.php Since SWMBA will not purchase another Benz, I guess I will have to get this -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Hammie is worthy
Made it home safe and sound. Nothing big to report, the interior smells awful what with the moisture finally drying out. It didn't smell on the way in but when I got in to come home WHEW! One of the tires went soft, will pump it back up and see if its just from the car not being driven... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Finback? Adenaur? Parts on CL. Some old rustbucket.
Neither. It is a Ponton At 02:15 PM 12/2/2008, you wrote: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/cto/942168592.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Finback? Adenaur? Parts on CL. Some old rustbucket.
Some old rust bucket FTW! -Rolf Loren Faeth wrote: Neither. It is a Ponton At 02:15 PM 12/2/2008, you wrote: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/cto/942168592.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge
Can anyone recommend a good choice for a wireless router that can operate as a receiver in a bridge setup? Preferably something available at a Best Buy or Staples kind of place. I need to get networking in the basement and running CAT5 is not something I want to do. I verified that I have good signal down there using my laptop. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] M119 broken timing chain
I dont suppose anybody here has ever pulled a head on 5.0 119 engine to repair a broken timing chain have they? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge
i've never had any problem with anything other than that bottom of the line chinese garbage. my last setup was linksys and worked flawlessly. my upgraded system is d-link and while not as reliable as the linksys was, it is pretty damn reliable. On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone recommend a good choice for a wireless router that can operate as a receiver in a bridge setup? Preferably something available at a Best Buy or Staples kind of place. I need to get networking in the basement and running CAT5 is not something I want to do. I verified that I have good signal down there using my laptop. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Just another day...
Yea, I said I would andrew strasfogel wrote: Kaleb, you were going to check whether the SR I ordered had been shipped. On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Well, now its getting cold so i desperatly need to clean out my garage so I can get cars in there to work on during the winter Luther wrote: You HAVE a 2.5 IF you'll get off your lazy arse and INSTALL THE ENGINE! Sheesh. Luther Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I need that 2.5 John Robbins wrote: Working on the MB's. The E300 and SDL (hood up) are a friend's... John -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1824 - Release Date: 12/2/2008 9:31 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1824 - Release Date: 12/2/2008 9:31 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge
Airport Express. Makes a great bridge, and also gives you the ability to run AirTunes (connect your iTunes library to remote speakers) or even connect a remote printer. It will do WDS right out of the box... Dan --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 7:20 PM Can anyone recommend a good choice for a wireless router that can operate as a receiver in a bridge setup? Preferably something available at a Best Buy or Staples kind of place. I need to get networking in the basement and running CAT5 is not something I want to do. I verified that I have good signal down there using my laptop. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Was OT Biodiesel *processor*, then coffee grounds, now Starbucks fire starters
Maybe the answer is to dry them then compress them into pellets with a little wax sell the pellets to people with wood stoves as starter pellets? They could be Starbucks fire starters - fire starters with snob appeal! Now, before anyone bashes me about CO2 emissions, the same amount of CO2 is released into the air when something decomposes. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:30 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT business idea - was Biodiesel *processor* for under $3k I see. Maybe that's why they smell so rank... On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: I thought most of the oil is in the brew. I thought this discussion started with the revelation that spent grounds are 15% oil by weight. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1823 - Release Date: 12/1/2008 7:59 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1823 - Release Date: 12/1/2008 7:59 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M119 broken timing chain
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I dont suppose anybody here has ever pulled a head on 5.0 119 engine to repair a broken timing chain have they? No, but having twice the cams and valves of a 117 can't help anything, especially cost. The block is already helicoiled at least. No one I've talked to reports seeing many problems with the 119 chain and/or guides. Praytell, what happened and how many miles? Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Next car
Need to replace the van that SWMBA will not allow to go to the car doctor. She is still not sure what she wants. Ugly and generic I am betting. Not that she will drive it. Just for me to go to the PnP and haul stuff. Like kids to go hunting or ... the xmas tree. Wonder how she plans to get that one home from the mountains clay On Dec 2, 2008, at 2:07 PM, R A Bennell wrote: Boy, when I saw next car I just assumed it was Snook again. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of dave walton Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 1:12 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Next car I put down a deposit maybe a year ago and they refunded it a few months later when they decided you had to be a resident of California to purchase the vehicle. -Dave Walton On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://auto.howstuffworks.com/aptera-hybrid.htm http://www.aptera.com/index.php Since SWMBA will not purchase another Benz, I guess I will have to get this -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge
Buffalo is a good brand. Can go either way, as router or end point clay On Dec 2, 2008, at 4:20 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Can anyone recommend a good choice for a wireless router that can operate as a receiver in a bridge setup? Preferably something available at a Best Buy or Staples kind of place. I need to get networking in the basement and running CAT5 is not something I want to do. I verified that I have good signal down there using my laptop. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was OT Biodiesel *processor*, then coffee grounds, now Starbucks fire starters
Already have Javalogs for that use here. Cost way too much, but smell great. Ash is good for the garden too clay On Dec 2, 2008, at 4:47 PM, Tom Hargrave wrote: Maybe the answer is to dry them then compress them into pellets with a little wax sell the pellets to people with wood stoves as starter pellets? They could be Starbucks fire starters - fire starters with snob appeal! Now, before anyone bashes me about CO2 emissions, the same amount of CO2 is released into the air when something decomposes. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:30 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT business idea - was Biodiesel *processor* for under $3k I see. Maybe that's why they smell so rank... On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: I thought most of the oil is in the brew. I thought this discussion started with the revelation that spent grounds are 15% oil by weight. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1823 - Release Date: 12/1/2008 7:59 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1823 - Release Date: 12/1/2008 7:59 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Mac Pros used in supercomputer [Fw: Fw: Tech Briefs INSIDER 12/01/08]
On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:44:06 -0600 Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, 10 years ago the Federal Ames lab was building supercomputers using a grid made up of new Macs. I think it was G3s at the time. At the time I knew the name of the grid OS they were using. Beowulf? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Water leak explained
The bad smell in my 240D has got to be from the water leak I noticed some time ago. So tonight I checked and sure enough the passenger side floor is wet. Under the hood in the channels where the hood hinges live I found enough compost to start Andrew's business. With my shop vac and a stiff piece of wire I removed a good chunk of that and managed to reveal and clear the drain holes in the bottom of the channels. With any luck and a couple days of driving the car will dry out and the smell go away Turns out my soft tire isn't actually soft. I guess I need to do some checking, I suspect I've got a bad tie rod end... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Water leak explained
I use a leaf blower about every 3 months or so to blow the leaves, etc., out of those areas on my 124 and 126. 'Really oughta do it more often. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 9:04 PM Subject: [MBZ] Water leak explained The bad smell in my 240D has got to be from the water leak I noticed some time ago. So tonight I checked and sure enough the passenger side floor is wet. Under the hood in the channels where the hood hinges live I found enough compost to start Andrew's business. With my shop vac and a stiff piece of wire I removed a good chunk of that and managed to reveal and clear the drain holes in the bottom of the channels. With any luck and a couple days of driving the car will dry out and the smell go away Turns out my soft tire isn't actually soft. I guess I need to do some checking, I suspect I've got a bad tie rod end... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M119 broken timing chain
Well as a matter of fact said car is up your way, which does not mean you can steal it out from under me. Im fixing to break my buying freeze I think. The guy bought it off a bank, who repoed it when the owner quit paying. I guess they blew it up. It only has 144k on it. Guy said if you pull the air cleaner the cam case is cracked. Im figuring this to mean the valve covers are cracked from a broken timing chain. He said it turns over fine but he has not tried to start it. Tom Savage wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I dont suppose anybody here has ever pulled a head on 5.0 119 engine to repair a broken timing chain have they? No, but having twice the cams and valves of a 117 can't help anything, especially cost. The block is already helicoiled at least. No one I've talked to reports seeing many problems with the 119 chain and/or guides. Praytell, what happened and how many miles? Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1824 - Release Date: 12/2/2008 9:31 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cold effects
...the problem was my new undersized water outlet, getting more undersized when it was really cold... Unintended humor, I guess. RLE ** Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpamp;icid=aolcom40vanityamp; ncid=emlcntaolcom0002) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M119 broken timing chain
What is an M119 besides a 5 liter? Is that the 500SEL (126) engine? I know nothing about it, other than the Euro 500SEL I saw looked like a relatively quick and fast car, and I loved the thought of a 126 with SLS. At 06:23 PM 12/2/2008, you wrote: I dont suppose anybody here has ever pulled a head on 5.0 119 engine to repair a broken timing chain have they? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Water leak explained
I use a vacuum when I have it out, and use compressed air when I have the compressor running and near the car(s) I have the hood up on. Also need to keep the trunk seal clear. At 08:56 PM 12/2/2008, you wrote: I use a leaf blower about every 3 months or so to blow the leaves, etc., out of those areas on my 124 and 126. 'Really oughta do it more often. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 9:04 PM Subject: [MBZ] Water leak explained The bad smell in my 240D has got to be from the water leak I noticed some time ago. So tonight I checked and sure enough the passenger side floor is wet. Under the hood in the channels where the hood hinges live I found enough compost to start Andrew's business. With my shop vac and a stiff piece of wire I removed a good chunk of that and managed to reveal and clear the drain holes in the bottom of the channels. With any luck and a couple days of driving the car will dry out and the smell go away Turns out my soft tire isn't actually soft. I guess I need to do some checking, I suspect I've got a bad tie rod end... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Mac Pros used in supercomputer [Fw: Fw: Tech Briefs INSIDER 12/01/08]
Yes, that is it! At 07:54 PM 12/2/2008, you wrote: On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:44:06 -0600 Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, 10 years ago the Federal Ames lab was building supercomputers using a grid made up of new Macs. I think it was G3s at the time. At the time I knew the name of the grid OS they were using. Beowulf? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was OT Biodiesel *processor*, then coffee grounds, now Starbucks fire starters
In Seattle? On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 8:13 PM, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Already have Javalogs for that use here. Cost way too much, but smell great. Ash is good for the garden too clay On Dec 2, 2008, at 4:47 PM, Tom Hargrave wrote: Maybe the answer is to dry them then compress them into pellets with a little wax sell the pellets to people with wood stoves as starter pellets? They could be Starbucks fire starters - fire starters with snob appeal! Now, before anyone bashes me about CO2 emissions, the same amount of CO2 is released into the air when something decomposes. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:30 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT business idea - was Biodiesel *processor* for under $3k I see. Maybe that's why they smell so rank... On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: I thought most of the oil is in the brew. I thought this discussion started with the revelation that spent grounds are 15% oil by weight. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1823 - Release Date: 12/1/2008 7:59 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1823 - Release Date: 12/1/2008 7:59 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Water leak explained
There's a pinhead sized drain hole down there under the composted leaves, which is about the same size as the Cherman engineer's brain that came up with this deeply flawed design... On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:26 PM, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I use a vacuum when I have it out, and use compressed air when I have the compressor running and near the car(s) I have the hood up on. Also need to keep the trunk seal clear. At 08:56 PM 12/2/2008, you wrote: I use a leaf blower about every 3 months or so to blow the leaves, etc., out of those areas on my 124 and 126. 'Really oughta do it more often. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 9:04 PM Subject: [MBZ] Water leak explained The bad smell in my 240D has got to be from the water leak I noticed some time ago. So tonight I checked and sure enough the passenger side floor is wet. Under the hood in the channels where the hood hinges live I found enough compost to start Andrew's business. With my shop vac and a stiff piece of wire I removed a good chunk of that and managed to reveal and clear the drain holes in the bottom of the channels. With any luck and a couple days of driving the car will dry out and the smell go away Turns out my soft tire isn't actually soft. I guess I need to do some checking, I suspect I've got a bad tie rod end... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M119 broken timing chain
Its a 32 valve V8 used in the 140 chassis Loren Faeth wrote: What is an M119 besides a 5 liter? Is that the 500SEL (126) engine? I know nothing about it, other than the Euro 500SEL I saw looked like a relatively quick and fast car, and I loved the thought of a 126 with SLS. At 06:23 PM 12/2/2008, you wrote: I dont suppose anybody here has ever pulled a head on 5.0 119 engine to repair a broken timing chain have they? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Dodge Caravan 3.3L V-6 engine
Fred, I was not able to find a used sensor in today's excursion. Every 3.3 engine I found had the sensor gone. Worldpac website shows what looks like a universal sensor with 2 ears and a pigtail wire. I bought a new one from NAPA, (Echlin) but given your experience, I'd rather find a used one. Do you know what the bad new ones you bought looked like? The one from NAPA has one ear and has a socket for the wiring harness to plug into. There is NO pigtail. I think i trust it more than the worldpac sensor. My junkyard experience tells me this is not a rare failure! Thanks, hope to have this solved soon. Loren At 11:33 AM 11/29/2008, you wrote: Loren. I had an earlier Voyager that had the same symptoms. After it finally failed, the culprit was the timing sensor at the flywheel. Replacements didn't last, so I scooped one from the J/Y and no more problems. YMMV Fred Moir Lynn MA At 10:23 AM 11/29/2008, you wrote: I couple of weeks ago, the engine on the van started jerking. just missing randomly. Over the last two days, I could hear it was backfiring when this miss occurs. Sometimes it will mess once and other times it will miss twice. There is no check engine light on. The miss occurs most when there is a load on the engine, accelerating and going uphill. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 6:39 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok Don wrote: I might find out if they wil go the distance - one of them has over 330,000 miles already, but sure doesn't act like it. The other one has got to be getting close. I am convinced that those are the MB diesels that will set the mileage marks. And they are such fun to drive, it wouldn't be bad driving them at 600,000 miles. Assuming (as someone mentioned) that the rest of the body doesn't fall apart. Your 300D 2.5 also proves one of Marshall's old mantras wrong. He said Mercedes diesel auto trannys only lasted 150-200,000. I know at least one of yours has (at least) 250,000 on the original tranny. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com I think what Marshall said was that the life of a transmission was directly tied to the number of shifts it had to make during its life time . Highway vs city driving and fluid changes is what determines transmission life. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper
John Freer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think what Marshall said was that the life of a transmission was directly tied to the number of shifts it had to make during its life time. This is why I keep mine in S around town. Eliminates the frequent shifting in and out of 4th gear. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M119 broken timing chain
Cama is about the only hope on this list. At 09:40 PM 12/2/2008, you wrote: Its a 32 valve V8 used in the 140 chassis Loren Faeth wrote: What is an M119 besides a 5 liter? Is that the 500SEL (126) engine? I know nothing about it, other than the Euro 500SEL I saw looked like a relatively quick and fast car, and I loved the thought of a 126 with SLS. At 06:23 PM 12/2/2008, you wrote: I dont suppose anybody here has ever pulled a head on 5.0 119 engine to repair a broken timing chain have they? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Dodge Caravan 3.3L V-6 engine
I forget what year you have. I punched up 2002 at rockauto.com and they had three crank position sensors. Standard Motor Products for $14, Airtex for $16, and ACDelco for $18. I'd drop in a Delco and consider the problem fixed. There's also a cam position sensor to make sure it fires on compression and not on overlap. Those are more expensive, you can get your choice of Delco or Delphi for $43.79. Did you do the key on/off trick to check for trouble codes? (turn it on, off, on, off, on and read the codes in the odometer if electronic, or count the SES lamp flashes if the odo is mechanical.) Google any codes that it displays. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper
Why would they do that? I thought the plan was to sell more RWD Holdens as Pontiacs like they did with the last GTO, in order to further distinguish the brand from Chevy. On 12/2/08, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They are killing Pontiac next. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 1:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: do they not make olds anymore? IIRC, the 2004 model year was the end of the line. I'd kind of like to have a 4 cylinder, five speed 2004 Alero, but the 4cyl is kind of rare, and the 5sp are as common as hen's teeth. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sent from my mobile device ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Got the PS Pump
PS pump finally arrived, Kaleb. It was all repacked in fresh Fed Ex box with a sticker saying how the original packing was damaged (they didn't say how). It was all swathed in paper and a plastic bag. Have the thing slapped on.but I haven't two bolts long enough to finish the job tonight. Thanks, Okiemensch. Bob R. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 7:54 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Freer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think what Marshall said was that the life of a transmission was directly tied to the number of shifts it had to make during its life time. This is why I keep mine in S around town. Eliminates the frequent shifting in and out of 4th gear. Allan -- 1983 300Dthe gear selection ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com That's a good idea Allan. Also helps keep the carbon buildup at bay. I miss that feature on the CDI. At 35 mph around town and I want to shift down to 4th, it goes right down to 2nd as I have no control over the gear selection at low speed. I guess I needn't worry as it's a lifetime transmission. (grin) John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] M1 ATF in PS Pmp...coinkydink?
As I was swapping out the PS pumps tonight I was thinking that this stupid leak on the PS pump started about the time I flushed everything out, changed filter, lid gasket and swapped to M1 ATF. Co-inky-dink or no? Bob R '77 300D 198K '87 Acura Legend 199K '05 E320 64K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Dodge Caravan 3.3L V-6 engine
At 10:39 PM 12/2/2008, you wrote: Fred, .. Do you know what the bad new ones you bought looked like? The one from NAPA has one ear and has a socket for the wiring harness to plug into. There is NO pigtail. Loren. The failure prone ones were, (I Think!,) Borg Warner, white box with red and black patches. Is memory not a wonderful thing? Fred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper
Wow so some places will have an awful surplus of Chevy dealers? Mac on 12/2/08 13:46, Rusty Cullens at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They are killing Pontiac next. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 1:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: do they not make olds anymore? IIRC, the 2004 model year was the end of the line. I'd kind of like to have a 4 cylinder, five speed 2004 Alero, but the 4cyl is kind of rare, and the 5sp are as common as hen's teeth. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M119 broken timing chain
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Well as a matter of fact said car is up your way, which does not mean you can steal it out from under me. Im fixing to break my buying freeze I think. The guy bought it off a bank, who repoed it when the owner quit paying. I guess they blew it up. It only has 144k on it. Guy said if you pull the air cleaner the cam case is cracked. Im figuring this to mean the valve covers are cracked from a broken timing chain. He said it turns over fine but he has not tried to start it. Interesting. The air cleaner doesn't really obscure the timing chest, where a broken chain would hit. I'll try to make it out there and have a peek. That has got to be a new world record for cheapest 140. Tom ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper
John Freer wrote: That's a good idea Allan. Also helps keep the carbon buildup at bay. I miss that feature on the CDI. At 35 mph around town and I want to shift down to 4th, it goes right down to 2nd as I have no control over the gear selection at low speed. You don't have the tip tronic or whatever they call it? I thought it was standard... there should be a little +/- next to the D on the console shifter. Mine lets me select the gear I want to be in, but it has safety's built in. So if I wanted to autocross with the car in second and I floored it to redline, the car will shift into 3rd instead of rev-limiting the engine. It doesn't prevent downshifts, so you could leave it in 3rd and drive around town. I guess I needn't worry as it's a lifetime transmission. (grin) Ugh... I wish they'd put an extended warranty on the transmissions as a result. I did just get my fluid changed though. There was a noticeable difference so it was probably original fluid. :( John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper
Marshall was right providing the failure mode is a worn out clutch. Other failures like the catastrophic seal failure that happened to my 300SDL are more random. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 12/2/08 9:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper John Freer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think what Marshall said was that the life of a transmission was directly tied to the number of shifts it had to make during its life time. This is why I keep mine in S around town. Eliminates the frequent shifting in and out of 4th gear. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1823 - Release Date: 12/1/2008 7:59 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was OT Biodiesel *processor*, then coffee grounds, now Starbucks fire starters
yep. They sell for $15 a box of six. Last three hours each just overpriced presto logs clay On Dec 2, 2008, at 7:36 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: In Seattle? On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 8:13 PM, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Already have Javalogs for that use here. Cost way too much, but smell great. Ash is good for the garden too clay On Dec 2, 2008, at 4:47 PM, Tom Hargrave wrote: Maybe the answer is to dry them then compress them into pellets with a little wax sell the pellets to people with wood stoves as starter pellets? They could be Starbucks fire starters - fire starters with snob appeal! Now, before anyone bashes me about CO2 emissions, the same amount of CO2 is released into the air when something decomposes. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:30 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT business idea - was Biodiesel *processor* for under $3k I see. Maybe that's why they smell so rank... On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: I thought most of the oil is in the brew. I thought this discussion started with the revelation that spent grounds are 15% oil by weight. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1823 - Release Date: 12/1/2008 7:59 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1823 - Release Date: 12/1/2008 7:59 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
