[MBZ] Adjustable shocks - Koni?

2010-01-26 Thread David Bruckmann
Gang,

Has anyone here had experience with Koni adjustable shocks? 

I replaced the crappy Monroe shocks in the W108, hoping it would improve the 
harsh ride. Unfortunately, Bilstein only seems to offer HD shocks, and so not 
unexpectedly the car is better but still too firm for my liking. Sachs/Boge 
only lists one shock, which I assume is also an HD type (although I've not 
called them to verify). The MB-EPC has superceded the original shocks with - 
you guessed it - the HD version.

I understand that Koni offers adjustable shocks that will fit the W108. It 
would also seem that Koni is a top-tier OEM supplier to various reputable auto 
marques, apparently including MB on certain performance models.

I'm trying to achieve a softer ride, closer to a W123. Right now the W108 is 
riding more like a skateboard/Honda Civic. I have already replaced the 
hydropneumatic compensator with a spring, and in turn replaced that spring with 
the weakest available configuration from MB. That helped, but the shocks are 
definitely too hard.

Hoping someone has something good to say about the Koni adjustables...

D.

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Re: [MBZ] Lost prime in traffic

2010-01-26 Thread John Reames
I had something similar happen; the car would go about 20 miles at  
interstate speeds then lose powe (30mph max) and then die.  If it sat  
a while it was ok again, but it wasn't too happy right after the power  
loss bit.


My prefilterbwas black too.  I had a spare in the glovebox, so I put  
it in.  The blackened prefilter was so plugged it held enough vacuum  
that it would not empty of fuel even when both sides were opened to air!


--
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On Jan 25, 2010, at 20:29, hue wong wong_...@yahoo.com wrote:

Seems like there may be air in it.   After pondering it a bit I'm  
now leaning towards tank screen


Just got it towed home and tomorrows project is to flush and run  
some freash fuel through the system.


In the light, the fuel almost looks black (oil black) in the inline  
filter so.I guess the lesson here is to not let a tank  
of gas sit for two years







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From: Kevin Kraly kr...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost prime in traffic
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Monday, January 25, 2010, 3:22 PM
Tank screen, air in the lines, out of
Diesel?  Have you tried disconnecting the tank plumbing
and putting the lines into a can of Diesel to see if you can
get it started?

Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon

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Re: [MBZ] Battery drain, 86 SDL

2010-01-26 Thread harry watkins



My $2.99 HF VOM fluctuates between 64 and 65 ma.
Is that enough drain to cause a problem?


Sounds a bit on the high side.

-- Jim


Thanks Jim, what would run on 60 mA?  Maybe a small bulb?

Let me correct one thing.  The fluctuation was from 60 to 65 on the meter, 
one increment.  When I pulled fuse # 2 it settled to 60 mA, so I assume it 
was the clock.


When I opened the driver's door the reading went to 150 and back to 60 when 
closed, after the delay for the dome light.


When I opened the trunk, the fuse in my meter blew when the needled maxed 
out.


Does this sound like a wire short?

Thanks
Harry 



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Re: [MBZ] Lost prime in traffic

2010-01-26 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Late to the game, but here's my input.

1) Microbes (mold/fungus, not algae) have grown in your fuel tank
because you have water accumulated in the bottom of the tank.  Treat
with (1) biocide and (2) fuel additive  specifically for water in diesel
fuel.  May need to deal with a clogged fuel screen as well as replace
both fuel filters.  Keep spare filters in car along with tools to
change.

2) Leaking fuel primer pump.  If old style with white handle that you
unscrew before operating, and it leaks even the slightest bit of fuel,
replace it.  Once you have a good pump that doesn't leak, 50 - 75
'enthusiastic' cycles of the pump are required to prime the injection
pump.  There will be a distinct change in noise and amount of force
required to operate the primer pump when the injection pump is primed.
Note: primer pump does NOT push fuel out the injector lines - you will
have to crank the engine over by the starter to make the injection pump
push fuel out to the injectors.

After that, lots more possibilities, but these are the two most common
issues in my opinion.

-Max

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Subject: [MBZ] Lost prime in traffic


Hi all1

I wanted to tap the collective wisdom of the group.

Yesterday my 300td dropped off in traffic.  just going down the road and
it acted like it lost fuel and chugged out.

I hadn't been driving it so I assumed it was plugged fuel filters, but I
swapped them out this morning but nothing.

Could the lines from the tank be fouled?  Is there an easy way to fix
that  (the car is stranded ont eh side of the road as I figure this
out.)


I't feels like I have lost prime, as I pump the priming handle onthe
engine it doesn't seem to build up pressure



Any thoughts are welcome.





  

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Re: [MBZ] Battery drain, 86 SDL

2010-01-26 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Doesn't come anywhere close to a wire short.  Worst case is you have a
power consumer that is aging or somehow failed and using more power than
it should.

Do you have a radio with memory which needs power when key is removed
from ignition? An alarm system?

How long does it take for the battery to die when the car just sits?  It
probably should be able to last at least a week or two.  If you're
asking it to sit for a month or more, you probably should get a float
charger, or just disconnect the battery.


-Max

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[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of harry watkins
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 8:11 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery drain, 86 SDL


 My $2.99 HF VOM fluctuates between 64 and 65 ma.
 Is that enough drain to cause a problem?

 Sounds a bit on the high side.

 -- Jim

Thanks Jim, what would run on 60 mA?  Maybe a small bulb?

Let me correct one thing.  The fluctuation was from 60 to 65 on the
meter, one increment.  When I pulled fuse # 2 it settled to 60 mA, so I
assume it was the clock.

When I opened the driver's door the reading went to 150 and back to 60
when closed, after the delay for the dome light.

When I opened the trunk, the fuse in my meter blew when the needled
maxed out.

Does this sound like a wire short?

Thanks
Harry 


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Re: [MBZ] oh my goodness..

2010-01-26 Thread Mitch Haley

relng...@aol.com wrote:

Considering your pursed lips disapproval, you seemed to have examined it 
closely.


Now, back to clogged screens and vacuum leaks.


Pursed lips disapproval?
I just suggested that you may have sent it to the wrong list, because it wasn't 
MBZ related, nor was it family friendly. I enjoyed it, but would have sent it to 
Banned.


seem to have examined it closely

-I was looking for the mistake you mentioned, you jackass. Never found it, so 
your snide remark would be more applicable to yourself than to me.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] electronics

2010-01-26 Thread Mitch Haley

relng...@aol.com wrote:

The 914-4, a 1970 model, used a form of this. The 911 and 944/968 never 
did. Can't recall what the 928 used.


911-E and 911-S weren't D-Jet? What were they?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Battery drain, 86 SDL

2010-01-26 Thread Jim Cathey

My $2.99 HF VOM fluctuates between 64 and 65 ma.

what would run on 60 mA?  Maybe a small bulb?
Let me correct one thing.  The fluctuation was from 60 to 65 on the 
meter, one increment.  When I pulled fuse # 2 it settled to 60 mA, so 
I assume it was the clock.


Things that can draw static power:
1) Clock
2) Radio
3) Antenna
4) Central locking system
5) Alarm system
6) Dome light timer
7) Leaky alternator diode

60mA is pretty small for a bulb.  P=VI, so that would be a 3/4W
bulb.  Any one of these candidates could be 'leaking' internally,
and drawing more than it should.  Most of these are fused, so
if you can kill the load via fuse that's a clue that it's not
#7, or some grotesque wiring harness or ignition switch leak.

When I opened the driver's door the reading went to 150 and back to 60 
when closed, after the delay for the dome light.


150mA?  That's about a 1W light bulb.  Should be lots more than
that, more like amps.  Two 5W bulbs in the doors, plus a 10W in the
dome.  Call it 20W, or 1.6A.  You overwhelming the meter?  On a
Fluke, this is a $10 mistake.

When I opened the trunk, the fuse in my meter blew when the needled 
maxed out.

Does this sound like a wire short?


Possibly, I've had them.  People mis-wire trunk switch/light
assemblies, and the wire through the hinge is vulnerable.
There are three wires on the trunk light assembly (one's the
alarm system); if you swap the wrong two the fuse blows every
time you open the trunk.  The normal load should have been a
10W bulb, or 850mA.

The typical car battery is, let's say, 75 amp-hours.  Translation:
A one amp draw for seventy-five hours will _completely_ exhaust
the battery.  (And it would be unable to start the car well before
that.)  A 65mA load should do the job in 1100 hours, but if you
burn a full quarter of the battery (in 250 hours) I'd say it was
unacceptable.  Ten days.  A 20mA draw would be more like a month,
which is probably acceptable.

I don't know what the normal base load is on an SDL.  Maybe I ought
to, owning one and all, but I don't.  I may have measured it, but
in the early days I didn't keep a very detailed journal of what I
did.  It was only my second MB, after all.

I can tell you that a variable 200-350mA leak in Jill's SL was enough
to prevent starting if she didn't drive daily.  A keyless entry system
was about 10mA.  I didn't note the draw after the fix, how smart's that?

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] electronics

2010-01-26 Thread Mitch Haley

Peter Frederick wrote:
D-Jet pretty much vanished after 1972 in the US since it's difficult to 
meet CO and unburned hydrocarbon limits using only manifold pressure as 
an air metering system without an O2 sensor.  


Saab used D-Jet through 1974. '75-'77 they used K-Jet without catalyst.
'78 they had to go to catalyst and Lambda Sond, which IIRC was K-jet with 
electronic feedback on the control pressure circuit. I think the '77 engine with 
the EMS model's distributor was the best running non-turbo Saab made until the 
16v in the mid-1980's.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Car advice

2010-01-26 Thread R A Bennell
But Donald, it is not a Mercedes.  If you insist upon driving that off brand, 
just keep the one you have (or swap -
it won't make much difference as you will come back to the fold sooner or 
later).

Randy

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Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 5:03 PM
To: 'Mercedes@okiebenz.com'
Subject: [MBZ] Car advice


I have a dilemma.  I found a 2000 BMW 528i with only 58,000 miles that a friend 
of mine is selling.   The Loan
value is $8400 (retail is $11,900).  I had a friend of mine who is at a 
dealership check the auction prices.  These
same cars are bringing $6-6500 at AUCTION with around 60-70,000 miles.

It is very clean and in great shape EXCEPT, it has a scrape on the rear 
fender/bumper where the seller scraped
their brick mailbox.  It doesn't look terrible. But, in order to make it 
perfect, it will have to be painted
because the scratch is into the paint.  The car has been serviced at the local 
dealer since it was new; I called
the dealership to confirm the service history.  It had the big expensive 
service deal done at 40,000 miles.  The
last oil change at the dealer was done in June of 2008 when it had 56,000 
miles. Its a one owner car.

The seller wants $7500.  But, we haven't even tried to negotiate.  My indy (who 
also sells cars at his shop) says I
should try to buy it for no more than $6000.  I am really torn because it is a 
very nice car with low miles.  But,
I don't need another car payment (I owe money on my Wife's Expedition).  I 
might be able to turn around and sell it
quickly.  In fact, my indy says he could put it on his lot and sell it for 
$7500 pretty quickly.  OR, do I buy it
and drive it and try to sell my car?  My car (which I really like) would 
probably only sell for about $4000.

Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] Danish ad with scantily dressed ladies

2010-01-26 Thread R A Bennell
Darn, I missed the mistake. Guess I may have to watch it over and over until I 
figure out what is wrong with it.

Randy

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Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:29 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Danish ad with scantily dressed ladies


I think they are selling breast enlargement procedures.
I suppose no one bothered to spot the mistake.

Hendrik
who only watched the ad once.honest

relng...@aol.com wrote:
 ONE HUNDRED PERCENT OF MEN VIEWING THIS COMMERCIAL SAY:

 I have no idea what they are selling, but I'll have 10!!

 http://www.m2film.dk/fleggaard/trailer2.swf

 
   


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Re: [MBZ] Lost prime in traffic

2010-01-26 Thread Dieselhead


Algae  It kills injection systems. It causes wear in the pump and 
nozzles.  Use algicide/biocide in the hot weather.


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[MBZ] 1989 300TDT with 4 Matic

2010-01-26 Thread John Robbins
Saw this for sale on another list  really pricey, but it is pretty 
rare.  I didn't even know this was possible with the OM603.


http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w124-e-ce-d-td-class/1362534-1989-300tdt-4matic-wagon-sale.html

John

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Re: [MBZ] Lost prime in traffic

2010-01-26 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Lots of folks use the term algae, but it is really either mold or fungus
(or both), which does NOT require sunlight to grow.  It only needs water
and diesel fuel.  Algae uses photosynthesis to live/reproduce; shouldn't
be any photosynthesis going on inside your fuel tank... 

Marshall used to recommend treating your fuel tank to remove the
accumulated water every fall, and using a biocide when required.  Water
will accumulate - it condenses out of the air in the tank with every
heat/cool cycle.  Keeping your fuel tank full, especially when the car
is parked for long periods of time, will minimize the amount of water
that accumulates.

-Max

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Algae  It kills injection systems. It causes wear in the pump and
nozzles.  Use algicide/biocide in the hot weather.

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Re: [MBZ] Danish ad with scantily dressed ladies

2010-01-26 Thread WILTON

Now, I guess I'm gonna hafta watch it again, too.  ;)))

Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Danish ad with scantily dressed ladies


Darn, I missed the mistake. Guess I may have to watch it over and over 
until I figure out what is wrong with it.


Randy

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Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:29 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Danish ad with scantily dressed ladies


I think they are selling breast enlargement procedures.
I suppose no one bothered to spot the mistake.

Hendrik
who only watched the ad once.honest

relng...@aol.com wrote:

ONE HUNDRED PERCENT OF MEN VIEWING THIS COMMERCIAL SAY:

I have no idea what they are selling, but I'll have 10!!

http://www.m2film.dk/fleggaard/trailer2.swf







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[MBZ] CALLING FMISER

2010-01-26 Thread Dan Weeks

PHillip:

How many miles at the time, do you recall?

Dan


On Jan 24, 2010, at 10:20 PM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote:


That sound a lot like the symptoms I had.  Not too much later
the engine developed a miss. Not much after that it started
pulsing oil out the dip stick tube, pushing the dipstick out
of the way.

I pulled the head and determined the rings fail/died on one
cylinder.


OP never went off
the top peg except momentarily, making me think the leak is
large but at least somewhat intermittant.  Went through 4
quarts of oil before I discovered it.


On my engine, until it was pumping out the dipstick tube (I'm
guessing pumped out of the sump by the massive blowby) the
pressure gauge read normally.

This was an '83 (I think) 300D turbo.

--  Philip



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Re: [MBZ] Danish ad with scantily dressed ladies

2010-01-26 Thread R A Bennell
Careful Wilton. This sort of thing can be habit forming.

Randy

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Now, I guess I'm gonna hafta watch it again, too.  ;)))

Wilton

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 Darn, I missed the mistake. Guess I may have to watch it over and over 
 until I figure out what is wrong with it.

 Randy

 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
 [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Hendrik  Fay
 Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:29 AM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Danish ad with scantily dressed ladies


 I think they are selling breast enlargement procedures.
 I suppose no one bothered to spot the mistake.

 Hendrik
 who only watched the ad once.honest

 relng...@aol.com wrote:
 ONE HUNDRED PERCENT OF MEN VIEWING THIS COMMERCIAL SAY:

 I have no idea what they are selling, but I'll have 10!!

 http://www.m2film.dk/fleggaard/trailer2.swf





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Re: [MBZ] Danish ad with scantily dressed ladies

2010-01-26 Thread Mitch Haley

R A Bennell wrote:
Darn, I missed the mistake. 



Oops, it was Hendrick who mentioned the mistake.
Apologies to RLE.

Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] Car advice

2010-01-26 Thread E M
My neighbour has a 528 with about 280,000 kms on it.  He bought it new, and
it's been a dealer serviced car.  It required a trans rebuild not long ago,
which was the biggest expense so far, but he's spent a pretty large sum of
money over the past 10 years keeping it up.  It does look and drive great
still.

They are great cars, but not cheap to run.  Then again, if you took a
Mercedes to the dealer for everything, they wouldn't be cheap to run either,
even an old diesel.  I know, a friend had an old 300D from the 70s and he
showed me the service file once.  Best part of 25 years ago, the servicing
costs had exceeded the original cost of buying the car new.

Everything being equal, which it never is, a 7 will probably cost more to
run in the long run if you hold onto it than a 5, as the 7 is top of the
range, and parts are priced accordingly.  But when you factor in much lower
miles on the 5 than your 7, who knows.  The basic mechanical bits on most
BMWs are very good, but like similar aged Mercedes counterparts, it's often
the little things that start to go, which add up the cost of ownership, to
put right.  Many ppl get tired of shelling out money for those fixes, so
they are neglected, and before long, the cars, both BMW and Mercedes have a
long list or repairs.  Once a car has crossed over into the dark side, who
knows, buying one is as much luck as anything, as you don't really know just
what has been neglected or what work deferred.

If it were me, and I liked what I had, and knew it's flaws, I'd stick with
it and service it as required.  Sounds like your 7 has treated you quite
well so far.

Good luck,

Ed
300E

2010/1/26 R A Bennell b...@mts.net

 But Donald, it is not a Mercedes.  If you insist upon driving that off
 brand, just keep the one you have (or swap -
 it won't make much difference as you will come back to the fold sooner or
 later).

 Randy

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 To: 'Mercedes@okiebenz.com'
 Subject: [MBZ] Car advice


 I have a dilemma.  I found a 2000 BMW 528i with only 58,000 miles that a
 friend of mine is selling.   The Loan
 value is $8400 (retail is $11,900).  I had a friend of mine who is at a
 dealership check the auction prices.  These
 same cars are bringing $6-6500 at AUCTION with around 60-70,000 miles.

 It is very clean and in great shape EXCEPT, it has a scrape on the rear
 fender/bumper where the seller scraped
 their brick mailbox.  It doesn't look terrible. But, in order to make it
 perfect, it will have to be painted
 because the scratch is into the paint.  The car has been serviced at the
 local dealer since it was new; I called
 the dealership to confirm the service history.  It had the big expensive
 service deal done at 40,000 miles.  The
 last oil change at the dealer was done in June of 2008 when it had 56,000
 miles. Its a one owner car.

 The seller wants $7500.  But, we haven't even tried to negotiate.  My indy
 (who also sells cars at his shop) says I
 should try to buy it for no more than $6000.  I am really torn because it
 is a very nice car with low miles.  But,
 I don't need another car payment (I owe money on my Wife's Expedition).  I
 might be able to turn around and sell it
 quickly.  In fact, my indy says he could put it on his lot and sell it for
 $7500 pretty quickly.  OR, do I buy it
 and drive it and try to sell my car?  My car (which I really like) would
 probably only sell for about $4000.

 Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] Danish ad with scantily dressed ladies

2010-01-26 Thread E M
Mistake, who would dare to find fault!!  lol

Ed
300E

2010/1/26 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net

 R A Bennell wrote:

 Darn, I missed the mistake.



 Oops, it was Hendrick who mentioned the mistake.
 Apologies to RLE.

 Mitch


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Re: [MBZ] 1989 300TDT with 4 Matic

2010-01-26 Thread Gary Hurst
i know a guy who just spent $42k on an 87 124 wagon!

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 10:06 AM, John Robbins je...@msstate.edu wrote:

 Saw this for sale on another list  really pricey, but it is pretty
 rare.  I didn't even know this was possible with the OM603.


 http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w124-e-ce-d-td-class/1362534-1989-300tdt-4matic-wagon-sale.html

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Re: [MBZ] Adjustable shocks - Koni?

2010-01-26 Thread Gary Hurst
where do you live where you have such rough roads?  this is an 8 or a 6?

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 5:36 AM, David Bruckmann 
bruckma...@transcontinental.ca wrote:

 Gang,

 Has anyone here had experience with Koni adjustable shocks?

 I replaced the crappy Monroe shocks in the W108, hoping it would improve
 the harsh ride. Unfortunately, Bilstein only seems to offer HD shocks, and
 so not unexpectedly the car is better but still too firm for my liking.
 Sachs/Boge only lists one shock, which I assume is also an HD type (although
 I've not called them to verify). The MB-EPC has superceded the original
 shocks with - you guessed it - the HD version.

 I understand that Koni offers adjustable shocks that will fit the W108. It
 would also seem that Koni is a top-tier OEM supplier to various reputable
 auto marques, apparently including MB on certain performance models.

 I'm trying to achieve a softer ride, closer to a W123. Right now the W108
 is riding more like a skateboard/Honda Civic. I have already replaced the
 hydropneumatic compensator with a spring, and in turn replaced that spring
 with the weakest available configuration from MB. That helped, but the
 shocks are definitely too hard.

 Hoping someone has something good to say about the Koni adjustables...

 D.

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Re: [MBZ] danish

2010-01-26 Thread Gary Hurst
yeah, some have given up the old washboard already

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:

 RLE wrote:
  ...Wrong list, I think...
 
  Not at all.

 Washing Machines?
 mao

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Re: [MBZ] Danish ad with scantily dressed ladies

2010-01-26 Thread Allan Streib
All in all, I'd rather see ads like these on TV here than the endless stream of 
ads for erectile dysfunction meds.  In fact, the former might help with the 
latter ;-)

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Danish ad with scantily dressed ladies

2010-01-26 Thread E M
I have to agree, you might be onto something there. ;-)

Ed
300E

2010/1/26 Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu

 All in all, I'd rather see ads like these on TV here than the endless
 stream of ads for erectile dysfunction meds.  In fact, the former might help
 with the latter ;-)

 Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Battery drain, 86 SDL

2010-01-26 Thread harry watkins

Jim, Max

I pulled four fuses that got me to 0 mA.

#2  which took the clock flux out.

(a)  Is drawing 25 mA.  Front seat adjustment, jacket tube adjustment 
memory.


(b)  Is drawing 25 mA.  Front seat adjustment, jacket tube adjustment. 
(nothing about memory)


#15  Is drawing ~10 mA.  One of the nine items it protects is Control unit, 
seat adjustment memory.


What say you guys?  Am I done?

Thanks
Harry





Things that can draw static power:
1) Clock
2) Radio
3) Antenna
4) Central locking system
5) Alarm system
6) Dome light timer
7) Leaky alternator diode

60mA is pretty small for a bulb.  P=VI, so that would be a 3/4W
bulb.  Any one of these candidates could be 'leaking' internally,
and drawing more than it should.  Most of these are fused, so
if you can kill the load via fuse that's a clue that it's not
#7, or some grotesque wiring harness or ignition switch leak.

When I opened the driver's door the reading went to 150 and back to 60 
when closed, after the delay for the dome light.


150mA?  That's about a 1W light bulb.  Should be lots more than
that, more like amps.  Two 5W bulbs in the doors, plus a 10W in the
dome.  Call it 20W, or 1.6A.  You overwhelming the meter?  On a
Fluke, this is a $10 mistake.

When I opened the trunk, the fuse in my meter blew when the needled maxed 
out.

Does this sound like a wire short?


Possibly, I've had them.  People mis-wire trunk switch/light
assemblies, and the wire through the hinge is vulnerable.
There are three wires on the trunk light assembly (one's the
alarm system); if you swap the wrong two the fuse blows every
time you open the trunk.  The normal load should have been a
10W bulb, or 850mA.

The typical car battery is, let's say, 75 amp-hours.  Translation:
A one amp draw for seventy-five hours will _completely_ exhaust
the battery.  (And it would be unable to start the car well before
that.)  A 65mA load should do the job in 1100 hours, but if you
burn a full quarter of the battery (in 250 hours) I'd say it was
unacceptable.  Ten days.  A 20mA draw would be more like a month,
which is probably acceptable.

I don't know what the normal base load is on an SDL.  Maybe I ought
to, owning one and all, but I don't.  I may have measured it, but
in the early days I didn't keep a very detailed journal of what I
did.  It was only my second MB, after all.

I can tell you that a variable 200-350mA leak in Jill's SL was enough
to prevent starting if she didn't drive daily.  A keyless entry system
was about 10mA.  I didn't note the draw after the fix, how smart's that?

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Danish ad with scantily dressed ladies

2010-01-26 Thread R A Bennell
The thing that amazes me is that people are willing to take the medications - 
and not just the ED stuff. The ads
are non stop warnings of all the side effects one might suffer.

Can you just imagine if that Danish ad was required to disclose all of the side 
effects that might result from an
encounter with those young ladies???

Randy

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Danish ad with scantily dressed ladies


I have to agree, you might be onto something there. ;-)

Ed
300E

2010/1/26 Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu

 All in all, I'd rather see ads like these on TV here than the endless
 stream of ads for erectile dysfunction meds.  In fact, the former might help
 with the latter ;-)

 Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Battery drain, 86 SDL

2010-01-26 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
What problem are you trying to fix?  I don't think that ~65mA is
terrible, and if you plan to leave the car parked for long periods I'd
recommend either disconnecting the battery or installing a float
charger.

I'm far from an expert on the front seat adjustments, but 25 mA draw on
two different circuits with key off seems excessive to me.  You may want
to find a friend with car with same seats to see if they get similar
results.  I know that on my 124 wagon with memory front seat, battery
won't last more than a couple weeks of sitting, but I've never measured
the key off current draw.

I bought a float charger for my wagon a couple years ago, and installed
a jack under the driver's side dash to plug it in.  There's a hot
circuit under the dash on left side with a nice 10mm nut on a stud where
I attached the positive lead, found a ground point somewhere down there.
When I'm leaving town for more than a couple weeks, I park the car in
the garage and crack the driver's window to feed in the extension cord.
Plug the float charger in and leave it on the dash so I can see the
lights to make sure it's working with just a glance from the garage
entrance.  Works like a charm.

-Max 

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of harry watkins
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:51 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery drain, 86 SDL

Jim, Max

I pulled four fuses that got me to 0 mA.

#2  which took the clock flux out.

(a)  Is drawing 25 mA.  Front seat adjustment, jacket tube adjustment
memory.

(b)  Is drawing 25 mA.  Front seat adjustment, jacket tube adjustment.

(nothing about memory)

#15  Is drawing ~10 mA.  One of the nine items it protects is Control
unit, seat adjustment memory.

What say you guys?  Am I done?

Thanks
Harry




 Things that can draw static power:
 1) Clock
 2) Radio
 3) Antenna
 4) Central locking system
 5) Alarm system
 6) Dome light timer
 7) Leaky alternator diode

 60mA is pretty small for a bulb.  P=VI, so that would be a 3/4W bulb.

 Any one of these candidates could be 'leaking' internally, and drawing

 more than it should.  Most of these are fused, so if you can kill the 
 load via fuse that's a clue that it's not #7, or some grotesque wiring

 harness or ignition switch leak.

 When I opened the driver's door the reading went to 150 and back to 
 60 when closed, after the delay for the dome light.

 150mA?  That's about a 1W light bulb.  Should be lots more than that, 
 more like amps.  Two 5W bulbs in the doors, plus a 10W in the dome.  
 Call it 20W, or 1.6A.  You overwhelming the meter?  On a Fluke, this 
 is a $10 mistake.

 When I opened the trunk, the fuse in my meter blew when the needled 
 maxed out.
 Does this sound like a wire short?

 Possibly, I've had them.  People mis-wire trunk switch/light 
 assemblies, and the wire through the hinge is vulnerable.
 There are three wires on the trunk light assembly (one's the alarm 
 system); if you swap the wrong two the fuse blows every time you open 
 the trunk.  The normal load should have been a 10W bulb, or 850mA.

 The typical car battery is, let's say, 75 amp-hours.  Translation:
 A one amp draw for seventy-five hours will _completely_ exhaust the 
 battery.  (And it would be unable to start the car well before
 that.)  A 65mA load should do the job in 1100 hours, but if you burn a

 full quarter of the battery (in 250 hours) I'd say it was 
 unacceptable.  Ten days.  A 20mA draw would be more like a month, 
 which is probably acceptable.

 I don't know what the normal base load is on an SDL.  Maybe I ought 
 to, owning one and all, but I don't.  I may have measured it, but in 
 the early days I didn't keep a very detailed journal of what I did.  
 It was only my second MB, after all.

 I can tell you that a variable 200-350mA leak in Jill's SL was enough 
 to prevent starting if she didn't drive daily.  A keyless entry system

 was about 10mA.  I didn't note the draw after the fix, how smart's
that?

 -- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Replacing DVs in IP

2010-01-26 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
I've never experienced myself, but I remember Marshall saying that it was quite 
distinct as a new noise.  I think he said it sounded like sewing machine noise 
from the IP?
 
-Max



From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com on behalf of LarryT
Sent: Sun 1/24/2010 12:03 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] Replacing DVs in IP



Howdy --
I'm getting closer to doing this little project (have to find a time my wife
is not driving it and the weather is mild) - it was mentioned that the IP
will
become noisy if the DVs are not torqued properly.

What kind of noise and how evident will it be?

Thx
LarryT
91 300D

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Re: [MBZ] 1989 300TDT with 4 Matic

2010-01-26 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 7:06 AM, John Robbins je...@msstate.edu wrote:
 Saw this for sale on another list  really pricey, but it is pretty rare.
  I didn't even know this was possible with the OM603.

 http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w124-e-ce-d-td-class/1362534-1989-300tdt-4matic-wagon-sale.html


They sold the diesel 4Matic cars everywhere but the USA.

All 124 4Matics are to be avoided like the plague, though.  Notorious
for transfer case failures whose repair far exceeds the value of the
car.  If you want a four-wheel-drive Benz you are better off getting a
W210 or later, which have a much simpler, more reliable 4WD system.
Or a G-Wagen.  Or a Unimog.  ;)

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Danish ad with scantily dressed ladies

2010-01-26 Thread LWB250
Yeah, and what's with the two bathtubs next to each other?

Dan



--- On Tue, 1/26/10, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Danish ad with scantily dressed ladies
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 11:37 AM
 All in all, I'd rather see ads like
 these on TV here than the endless stream of ads for erectile
 dysfunction meds.  In fact, the former might help with
 the latter ;-)
 
 Allan
 
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Re: [MBZ] Danish ad with scantily dressed ladies

2010-01-26 Thread Rich Thomas

I would want to go on for more than 4 hours

--R

R A Bennell wrote:

The thing that amazes me is that people are willing to take the medications - 
and not just the ED stuff. The ads
are non stop warnings of all the side effects one might suffer.

Can you just imagine if that Danish ad was required to disclose all of the side 
effects that might result from an
encounter with those young ladies???

Randy

  



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[MBZ] Brake booster?

2010-01-26 Thread Curt Raymond
'83 240D.

So the other day I headed for work and hit the brakes at the end of the street 
and had a squishy pedal. Hit it again and everything was just fine.

Drove it all week and it was fine until yesterday when I went home. Again 
squishy pedal where it didn't feel like I was going to stop. Hit the pedal 
again and it was fine...

So what could be causing this? Leaky power brake booster?

-Curt



  
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Re: [MBZ] Brake booster?

2010-01-26 Thread E M
When did you last change the brake fluid ?

Ed
300E

2010/1/26 Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com

 '83 240D.

 So the other day I headed for work and hit the brakes at the end of the
 street and had a squishy pedal. Hit it again and everything was just fine.

 Drove it all week and it was fine until yesterday when I went home. Again
 squishy pedal where it didn't feel like I was going to stop. Hit the pedal
 again and it was fine...

 So what could be causing this? Leaky power brake booster?

 -Curt




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Re: [MBZ] Brake booster?

2010-01-26 Thread Rich Thomas
How's the fluid level?  Any leaks at a brake line or caliper?  Or maybe 
the master cylinder?  A booster leak would make it hard to push if the 
vacuum was leaking out (or air leaking in, you know what I mean).


--R

Curt Raymond wrote:

'83 240D.

So the other day I headed for work and hit the brakes at the end of the street 
and had a squishy pedal. Hit it again and everything was just fine.

Drove it all week and it was fine until yesterday when I went home. Again 
squishy pedal where it didn't feel like I was going to stop. Hit the pedal 
again and it was fine...

So what could be causing this? Leaky power brake booster?

-Curt



  
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Re: [MBZ] Brake booster?

2010-01-26 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Sounds more like a master cylinder failure; it could be allowing fluid
to get past the seal(s) on the first stroke, then it recovers for the
second stroke.  A failing brake booster would be the opposite - rock
hard brake pedal.

Check the fluid level - if it's getting low in either front or rear
reservoir, you may have a fluid leak somewhere...

-Max 

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:04 PM
To: Diesel List
Subject: [MBZ] Brake booster?

'83 240D.

So the other day I headed for work and hit the brakes at the end of the
street and had a squishy pedal. Hit it again and everything was just
fine.

Drove it all week and it was fine until yesterday when I went home.
Again squishy pedal where it didn't feel like I was going to stop. Hit
the pedal again and it was fine...

So what could be causing this? Leaky power brake booster?

-Curt



  
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Re: [MBZ] Brake booster?

2010-01-26 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
I think brake booster problems will give a stiff pedal.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 26, 2010, at 1:04 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

'83 240D.

So the other day I headed for work and hit the brakes at the end of the street 
and had a squishy pedal. Hit it again and everything was just fine.

Drove it all week and it was fine until yesterday when I went home. Again 
squishy pedal where it didn't feel like I was going to stop. Hit the pedal 
again and it was fine...

So what could be causing this? Leaky power brake booster?

-Curt




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Re: [MBZ] Brake booster?

2010-01-26 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Did you check brake fluid level? Look for leaks at all the wheels and where 
master cylinder bolts to brake booster?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 26, 2010, at 1:04 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

'83 240D.

So the other day I headed for work and hit the brakes at the end of the street 
and had a squishy pedal. Hit it again and everything was just fine.

Drove it all week and it was fine until yesterday when I went home. Again 
squishy pedal where it didn't feel like I was going to stop. Hit the pedal 
again and it was fine...

So what could be causing this? Leaky power brake booster?

-Curt




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Re: [MBZ] Car advice

2010-01-26 Thread Donald Snook
Ed wrote: Everything being equal, which it never is, a 7 will probably cost 
more to run in the long run if you hold onto it than a 5, as the 7 is top of 
the range, and parts are priced accordingly.  But when you factor in much lower 
miles on the 5 than your 7, who knows.  The basic mechanical bits on most BMWs 
are very good, but like similar aged Mercedes counterparts, it's often the 
little things that start to go, which add up the cost of ownership, to put 
right . . . If it were me, and I liked what I had, and knew it's flaws, I'd 
stick with it and service it as required.  Sounds like your 7 has treated you 
quite well so far.

I just bought the 5 series.  I got it for $7,000.  That is $2900 below Nada 
Trade in Value and $5000 below retail) and between $1500-1900 below Kelly Blue 
Book private party value.

Now both the 7 series and the 5 series go up for sale.  I couldn't make my mind 
up about which one to sell, so I will let the market decide. (I secretly want 
the 7 series to sell first because it has 100,000 more miles on it than the 5 
series.  That way, I get a newer car that is likely more reliable and worth 
more than the other!)

Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] Brake booster?

2010-01-26 Thread Peter Frederick
First suspect is a bad master cylinder.  Light applications will result in a 
sinking pedal, quick or firm ones give a hard pedal as the seal in the master 
cylinder seates.

If you have no leaks (that is, normal brake fluid levels), replace the master 
cylinder and flush the fluid.

Peter


-Original Message-
From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,
   53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil
Sent: Jan 26, 2010 12:14 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake booster?

Sounds more like a master cylinder failure; it could be allowing fluid
to get past the seal(s) on the first stroke, then it recovers for the
second stroke.  A failing brake booster would be the opposite - rock
hard brake pedal.

Check the fluid level - if it's getting low in either front or rear
reservoir, you may have a fluid leak somewhere...

-Max 

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:04 PM
To: Diesel List
Subject: [MBZ] Brake booster?

'83 240D.

So the other day I headed for work and hit the brakes at the end of the
street and had a squishy pedal. Hit it again and everything was just
fine.

Drove it all week and it was fine until yesterday when I went home.
Again squishy pedal where it didn't feel like I was going to stop. Hit
the pedal again and it was fine...

So what could be causing this? Leaky power brake booster?

-Curt



  
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Re: [MBZ] Danish ad with scantily dressed ladies

2010-01-26 Thread WILTON

What bathtubs?  ;)

Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Danish ad with scantily dressed ladies


Yeah, and what's with the two bathtubs next to each other?

Dan



--- On Tue, 1/26/10, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:


From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Danish ad with scantily dressed ladies
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 11:37 AM
All in all, I'd rather see ads like
these on TV here than the endless stream of ads for erectile
dysfunction meds. In fact, the former might help with
the latter ;-)

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Car advice

2010-01-26 Thread E M
That sounds like a pretty good plan, and congrats on the new 5!!

Based on what friends who have and had BMWs, your 5 should remain pretty
sounds for a lot of miles to come.  Like cars of this vintage, whether BMW
or Mercedes, the odd bill will come up, as with your rad in your 7.  Still,
for $7000, sounds like you got yourself a lot of car for the money

Enjoy it til you sell it, and if you end up not selling it, a 5 series BMW
isn't the hardest thing to live with, is it. ;-)

Ed
300E

2010/1/26 Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com

 Ed wrote: Everything being equal, which it never is, a 7 will probably
 cost more to run in the long run if you hold onto it than a 5, as the 7 is
 top of the range, and parts are priced accordingly.  But when you factor in
 much lower miles on the 5 than your 7, who knows.  The basic mechanical bits
 on most BMWs are very good, but like similar aged Mercedes counterparts,
 it's often the little things that start to go, which add up the cost of
 ownership, to put right . . . If it were me, and I liked what I had, and
 knew it's flaws, I'd stick with it and service it as required.  Sounds like
 your 7 has treated you quite well so far.

 I just bought the 5 series.  I got it for $7,000.  That is $2900 below Nada
 Trade in Value and $5000 below retail) and between $1500-1900 below Kelly
 Blue Book private party value.

 Now both the 7 series and the 5 series go up for sale.  I couldn't make my
 mind up about which one to sell, so I will let the market decide. (I
 secretly want the 7 series to sell first because it has 100,000 more miles
 on it than the 5 series.  That way, I get a newer car that is likely more
 reliable and worth more than the other!)

 Donald H. Snook

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[MBZ] uh oh a synthetic oil thread!

2010-01-26 Thread Donald Snook
I just bought a new-to-me BMW 528i.  It has only been serviced at the dealer.  
They use Castrol Full Synthetic 5-30 and the recommended service interval is 
15,000 miles.  It has 58,000 miles.  So, here's the question:

Is it true that one should not switch to conventional oil if the car has a 
history of synthetic?  Is 15,000 miles really okay on this oil?  Would I be 
better off changing much more frequently if I used conventional oil?

Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] 1984 230E

2010-01-26 Thread Robert Bigham

I have a greymarket 1983 230E.  It's fuel injected; that's what the E means.  
Einspritzmotor.

As you may suspect, I've had to learn things about it that I didn't really want 
to know; the parts places (not Rusty) know nothing.  MBUSA knows all about it.  
The dealers generally pull a Sergeant Schultz.  It's not in their databases.  
To some, it's just a 240D in drag.

The earlier, 1977-78 or so, cars were 230 without the E or maybe 200.  Still a 
102 engine.  They had carburetors.  230, 230C, and 230 something else, IIRC. 


   1. Re: 1984 230E (Kaleb C. Striplin)
   2. Re: 1984 230E (Kaleb C. Striplin)
   3. Re: 1984 230E (Curt Raymond)

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 11:28:55 -0600
From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 230E
Message-ID: 4b5dd4d7.7090...@striplin.net
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

If it was  carburated, it would just be a 230C, the E means its fuel 
injected.  I sure have never heard of such a beast though.

tom tomscat wrote:
 Hi Dieselhead,

  

 I believe your info is incomplete.  My info says that engine was available 
 in a carburetor version until 1990.  

  

 I am now at work, more or less, and I checked my records.  The car I had (in 
 March 2006) was a 1984 230CE and it was carbureted.  Last 7 digits of the 
 VIN were: AO95696.   I distinctly remember the carburetor, because it 
 backfired repeatedly thru the carburetor when we tried to start it, and I 
 had to put out more than one minor flame-up.  Which put the Fear of God into 
 a couple of casual onlookers, btw.  :)

  

 It was a great little collectible car, but it needed a lot of restoration.  

  

 Thanks, Dwight, for the pics.  That is definitely a different car than the 
 one I briefly had custody of, from what I can tell from those lousy pics.  
 Mine was a coupe.  Sheesh, could he have taken a WORSE picture???They 
 reminded me of the pics Vinny Gambini had in MY COUSIN VINNY, taken through 
 a filthy screen.  :)  God, I love that movie!

  

 Tom Schuch

 SE Connecticut

 1975 W115 300D (may be going up for sale shortly to make some room)

 and a bunch of BMWs (adding a 6th today)

  

 Message: 2
 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 23:25:21 -0600
 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 230E
 Message-ID: a0624081dc782db88f...@[192.168.1.112]
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed
  
 Carb engined 123 was only in 77 and 78 according to the info I found. 
 All from 79 on were einspritz
  
  
  
   
 Hi Curt,



 I run a residential facility here in CT. I have had a car donation 
 fundraising program for the past several years. A couple of years 
 ago someone donated a grey market 230E, cant remember if it was an 
 1983 or 1984. (I am gonna check my records at work tomorrow, it may 
 have been a 230CE.) It was a W123 chassis, however, in need of 
 restoration. I only had it on hand for a short time before selling 
 to some gearhead immigrants from western CT. Since it was an 
 unregistered vehicle, and badly in need of a tuneup, we had no real 
 idea of the power and economy. It was a neat car, though, with a 
 carbureted gasoline engine in the w123 chassis.

 FWIW, wikipedia has some info on it:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W123



 I am curious if that is the same car that Dwight saw. The one I had 
 was white with a blue cloth interior. 



 Tom Schuch

 1975 W115 300D

 and a bunch of BMWs


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Re: [MBZ] W123 280CE

2010-01-26 Thread Gary Hurst
yes

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 12:08 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.eduwrote:

 This would have an M110 right?

 http://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/1568907114.html

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Re: [MBZ] uh oh a synthetic oil thread!

2010-01-26 Thread E M
As with all things, always best to refer to the manual.  Oil is cheap
insurance, so silly to skimp on it in anyway. Same goes for the filter, I
always buy factory whatever... I'm not sure more changes with a cheaper oil
would have benefits over sticking to factory recommended oils, and change
intervals.  I think the 5 has a trip computer thingie in the dash too, so
you can probably see how much life is left between changes.  Not 100% sure,
but I think it counts things like number of cold starts too, so if you do a
lot of short trips, it might flash you to change the oil before the 15,000
miles.

Ed
300E

2010/1/26 Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com

 I just bought a new-to-me BMW 528i.  It has only been serviced at the
 dealer.  They use Castrol Full Synthetic 5-30 and the recommended service
 interval is 15,000 miles.  It has 58,000 miles.  So, here's the question:

 Is it true that one should not switch to conventional oil if the car has a
 history of synthetic?  Is 15,000 miles really okay on this oil?  Would I be
 better off changing much more frequently if I used conventional oil?

 Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] uh oh a synthetic oil thread!

2010-01-26 Thread Allan Streib
My guess is that BMW specifies full synthetic for that car, just like 
Mercedes-Benz does on their newer cars.

I would not use conventional oil if that were the case, and certainly would not 
do extended intervals with it.

Allan

On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 13:05 -0600, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote:
 I just bought a new-to-me BMW 528i.  It has only been serviced at the
 dealer.  They use Castrol Full Synthetic 5-30 and the recommended service
 interval is 15,000 miles.  It has 58,000 miles.  So, here's the question:
 
 Is it true that one should not switch to conventional oil if the car has
 a history of synthetic?  Is 15,000 miles really okay on this oil?  Would
 I be better off changing much more frequently if I used conventional oil?
 
 Donald H. Snook
 
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Re: [MBZ] W123 280CE

2010-01-26 Thread Allan Streib
Further thoughts on that?  I've only really had experience with my OM-617.

Allan

On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 14:15 -0500, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:
 yes
 
 On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 12:08 AM, Allan Streib
 str...@cs.indiana.eduwrote:
 
  This would have an M110 right?
 
  http://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/1568907114.html
 
  Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Adjustable shocks - Koni

2010-01-26 Thread Robert Bigham

I had some Konis on a VW Rabbit once.  They were adjustable for wear.  The 
adjustable feature proved to be more trouble than it was worth.  I never 
actually used it over 50 or 60 thousand miles. 


Doesn't Rusty have regular Bilsteins?  Used to. 


   1. Adjustable shocks - Koni? (David Bruckmann)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:36:55 -0800
From: David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca

Subject: [MBZ] Adjustable shocks - Koni?

Gang,

Has anyone here had experience with Koni adjustable shocks? 

I replaced the crappy Monroe shocks in the W108, hoping it would improve the 
harsh ride. Unfortunately, Bilstein only seems to offer HD shocks, and so not 
unexpectedly the car is better but still too firm for my liking. Sachs/Boge 
only lists one shock, which I assume is also an HD type (although I've not 
called them to verify). The MB-EPC has superceded the original shocks with - 
you guessed it - the HD version.

I understand that Koni offers adjustable shocks that will fit the W108. It 
would also seem that Koni is a top-tier OEM supplier to various reputable auto 
marques, apparently including MB on certain performance models.

I'm trying to achieve a softer ride, closer to a W123. Right now the W108 is 
riding more like a skateboard/Honda Civic. I have already replaced the 
hydropneumatic compensator with a spring, and in turn replaced that spring 
with the weakest available configuration from MB. That helped, but the shocks 
are definitely too hard.

Hoping someone has something good to say about the Koni adjustables...

D.


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Re: [MBZ] uh oh a synthetic oil thread!

2010-01-26 Thread Greg Fiorentino
I would stick with synthetic as it will protect the engine better.  The cost
difference between conventional and synthetic is minimal when compared to
other ownership costs.  If you are not confident about the drain interval,
do an oil analysis to confirm that the oil is still satisfactory at 15k
miles.

Greg

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On Behalf Of Donald Snook
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:06 AM
To: 'Mercedes@okiebenz.com'
Subject: [MBZ] uh oh a synthetic oil thread!

I just bought a new-to-me BMW 528i.  It has only been serviced at the
dealer.  They use Castrol Full Synthetic 5-30 and the recommended service
interval is 15,000 miles.  It has 58,000 miles.  So, here's the question:

Is it true that one should not switch to conventional oil if the car has a
history of synthetic?  Is 15,000 miles really okay on this oil?  Would I be
better off changing much more frequently if I used conventional oil?

Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] uh oh a synthetic oil thread!

2010-01-26 Thread Mitch Haley

Donald Snook wrote:

I just bought a new-to-me BMW 528i.  It has only been serviced at the dealer.  
They use Castrol Full Synthetic 5-30 and the recommended service interval is 
15,000 miles.


Many BMWs are supposed to run on full syn, preferably that green 'German 
Castrol' if you can get it.

You should be able to search up the details at http://bobistheoilguy.com/



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[MBZ] Auto brand test

2010-01-26 Thread Mitch Haley
I think we've seen this before, but I hadn't noticed that you can click on stuff 
inside the car.


http://www.cramersweeney.com/brandprix/

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Re: [MBZ] Adjustable shocks - Koni

2010-01-26 Thread Mitch Haley

Robert Bigham wrote:
I had some Konis on a VW Rabbit once.  They were adjustable for wear.  The adjustable feature proved to be more trouble than it was worth.  


Sounds like the adjustable KYB struts on my Horizon. Lifetime warranty. First 
set failed quicker than the factory originals wore out. Same for 2nd set, except 
when the 2nd set died, they were out of production, so they gave me 
non-adjustables, not lifetime warranted, as replacements that time. 70k on the 
Mopars, 90k on the two sets of adjustables, and 70k on the KYB fixed damping 
struts before I parked the car. Kayaba (KYB) is generally ranked below Koni in 
price/quality.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] W123 280CE

2010-01-26 Thread Gary Hurst
i drove a 280ce for years and liked it a lot.  i'd still have it if not for
my slew of ridiculous ex wife legal problems.

mine was a serious beater with charm.  i'd have replaced it with a nicer one
under different circumstances

i think $4k is pretty high.  i've seen very nice ones here in 2 to 2500
range

US spec m110 really suffers in terms of power relative to euro version.  it
makes ordinary 4 cylinder horsepower while burning fuel like a very thirsty
six.

if i recall correctly, the major complaint in M110 was valvetrain noise and
cam issues from oil starvation.

overall i really like the car though and would recommend it, but, as with
virtually any old car pushing 30 years old,  care must be taken in initial
selection.  rust is also an issue.

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 Further thoughts on that?  I've only really had experience with my OM-617.

 Allan

 On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 14:15 -0500, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  yes
 
  On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 12:08 AM, Allan Streib
  str...@cs.indiana.eduwrote:
 
   This would have an M110 right?
  
   http://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/1568907114.html
  
   Allan
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Re: [MBZ] uh oh a synthetic oil thread!

2010-01-26 Thread Gary Hurst
i wouldn't run any oil for 15k miles no matter what any test said



On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.netwrote:

 I would stick with synthetic as it will protect the engine better.  The
 cost
 difference between conventional and synthetic is minimal when compared to
 other ownership costs.  If you are not confident about the drain interval,
 do an oil analysis to confirm that the oil is still satisfactory at 15k
 miles.

 Greg

 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
 On Behalf Of Donald Snook
 Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:06 AM
 To: 'Mercedes@okiebenz.com'
 Subject: [MBZ] uh oh a synthetic oil thread!

 I just bought a new-to-me BMW 528i.  It has only been serviced at the
 dealer.  They use Castrol Full Synthetic 5-30 and the recommended service
 interval is 15,000 miles.  It has 58,000 miles.  So, here's the question:

 Is it true that one should not switch to conventional oil if the car has a
 history of synthetic?  Is 15,000 miles really okay on this oil?  Would I be
 better off changing much more frequently if I used conventional oil?

 Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] uh oh a synthetic oil thread!

2010-01-26 Thread Mitch Haley

Here's a German Castrol FAQ:
http://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflatNumber=718643#Post718643

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Re: [MBZ] uh oh a synthetic oil thread!

2010-01-26 Thread R A Bennell
It probably would not matter so long as you planned to sell the car by the time 
you put about 10K on it. Donald
never keeps cars long enough to wear out the oil.

Randy

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[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Gary Hurst
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:39 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] uh oh a synthetic oil thread!


i wouldn't run any oil for 15k miles no matter what any test said



On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.netwrote:

 I would stick with synthetic as it will protect the engine better.  The
 cost
 difference between conventional and synthetic is minimal when compared to
 other ownership costs.  If you are not confident about the drain interval,
 do an oil analysis to confirm that the oil is still satisfactory at 15k
 miles.

 Greg

 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
 On Behalf Of Donald Snook
 Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:06 AM
 To: 'Mercedes@okiebenz.com'
 Subject: [MBZ] uh oh a synthetic oil thread!

 I just bought a new-to-me BMW 528i.  It has only been serviced at the
 dealer.  They use Castrol Full Synthetic 5-30 and the recommended service
 interval is 15,000 miles.  It has 58,000 miles.  So, here's the question:

 Is it true that one should not switch to conventional oil if the car has a
 history of synthetic?  Is 15,000 miles really okay on this oil?  Would I be
 better off changing much more frequently if I used conventional oil?

 Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] Adjustable shocks - Koni

2010-01-26 Thread Gary Hurst
this koni idea is really silliness.  i'd like to know more about the car
(like the actual model and what conditions it is driven under) to find what
the heart of the problem is.  your bilstein application of that car for the
front is going to be b36-0527 and it's just not going to be that stiff as to
where it should be showing ride comfort issues.

so what are we talkign about here?  some other issue?  a guy who just really
wants the ride of a mid seventies chrysler new yorker coupe?



On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 Robert Bigham wrote:

 I had some Konis on a VW Rabbit once.  They were adjustable for wear.  The
 adjustable feature proved to be more trouble than it was worth.


 Sounds like the adjustable KYB struts on my Horizon. Lifetime warranty.
 First set failed quicker than the factory originals wore out. Same for 2nd
 set, except when the 2nd set died, they were out of production, so they gave
 me non-adjustables, not lifetime warranted, as replacements that time. 70k
 on the Mopars, 90k on the two sets of adjustables, and 70k on the KYB fixed
 damping struts before I parked the car. Kayaba (KYB) is generally ranked
 below Koni in price/quality.

 Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Adjustable shocks - Koni?

2010-01-26 Thread David Bruckmann
It's a 4.5, and it uses the same shocks as everything going back to the Pontons 
and the W113 SL. No difference between 6 and 8 (or even 4 cyl on the diesels). 
I cannot imagine what a W113 would be like with stone-hard HD shocks. The R107 
must have seemed like a dreamboat after putting up with that!

I live in California, where the average mile of interstate is more challenging 
than the MB test track at Untertürckheim! This allows me to compare my cars, 
and without a doubt the 123 and 107 are vastly better at soaking up the bumps, 
to the point where it's just not right. It's impossible that the 108 had such 
hard valving when new.

I either have to get the shocks softened up, or sell the car.

D.



Message: 4
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 10:34:44 -0500
From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Adjustable shocks - Koni?
Message-ID:
   8b0e7cce1001260734h26029f59p5ac8289a78a1...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

where do you live where you have such rough roads?  this is an 8 or a 6?

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 5:36 AM, David Bruckmann 
bruckma...@transcontinental.ca wrote:

 Gang,

 Has anyone here had experience with Koni adjustable shocks?

 I replaced the crappy Monroe shocks in the W108, hoping it would improve
 the harsh ride. Unfortunately, Bilstein only seems to offer HD shocks, and
 so not unexpectedly the car is better but still too firm for my liking.
 Sachs/Boge only lists one shock, which I assume is also an HD type (although
 I've not called them to verify). The MB-EPC has superceded the original
 shocks with - you guessed it - the HD version.

 I understand that Koni offers adjustable shocks that will fit the W108. It
 would also seem that Koni is a top-tier OEM supplier to various reputable
 auto marques, apparently including MB on certain performance models.

 I'm trying to achieve a softer ride, closer to a W123. Right now the W108
 is riding more like a skateboard/Honda Civic. I have already replaced the
 hydropneumatic compensator with a spring, and in turn replaced that spring
 with the weakest available configuration from MB. That helped, but the
 shocks are definitely too hard.

 Hoping someone has something good to say about the Koni adjustables...

 D.

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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 10:54:30 -0500
From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] danish
Message-ID:
   8b0e7cce1001260754w2e313ccbu9b634d8af2087...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

yeah, some have given up the old washboard already

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:

 RLE wrote:
  ...Wrong list, I think...
 
  Not at all.

 Washing Machines?
 mao

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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 11:37:40 -0500
From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Danish ad with scantily dressed ladies
Message-ID: 1264523860.20941.1356663...@webmail.messagingengine.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

All in all, I'd rather see ads like these on TV here than the endless stream 
of ads for erectile dysfunction meds.  In fact, the former might help with the 
latter ;-)

Allan



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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 11:46:55 -0500
From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Danish ad with scantily dressed ladies
Message-ID:
   fbc36f3b1001260846u54053aa8gd67ad141cf3fb...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

I have to agree, you might be onto something there. ;-)

Ed
300E

2010/1/26 Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu

 All in all, I'd rather see ads like these on TV here than the endless
 stream of ads for erectile dysfunction meds.  In fact, the former might help
 with the latter ;-)

 Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Adjustable shocks - Koni?

2010-01-26 Thread David Bruckmann
Whoops! Sorry about the non-clipped quote on the prev post

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Re: [MBZ] Adjustable shocks - Koni?

2010-01-26 Thread R A Bennell
Could the springs be sagging and not giving the ride that they once did?

Randy

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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of David Bruckmann
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:57 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Adjustable shocks - Koni?


It's a 4.5, and it uses the same shocks as everything going back to the Pontons 
and the W113 SL. No difference
between 6 and 8 (or even 4 cyl on the diesels). I cannot imagine what a W113 
would be like with stone-hard HD
shocks. The R107 must have seemed like a dreamboat after putting up with that!

I live in California, where the average mile of interstate is more challenging 
than the MB test track at
Untertürckheim! This allows me to compare my cars, and without a doubt the 123 
and 107 are vastly better at soaking
up the bumps, to the point where it's just not right. It's impossible that the 
108 had such hard valving when new.

I either have to get the shocks softened up, or sell the car.

D.



Message: 4
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 10:34:44 -0500
From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Adjustable shocks - Koni?
Message-ID:
   8b0e7cce1001260734h26029f59p5ac8289a78a1...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

where do you live where you have such rough roads?  this is an 8 or a 6?

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 5:36 AM, David Bruckmann 
bruckma...@transcontinental.ca wrote:

 Gang,

 Has anyone here had experience with Koni adjustable shocks?

 I replaced the crappy Monroe shocks in the W108, hoping it would improve
 the harsh ride. Unfortunately, Bilstein only seems to offer HD shocks, and
 so not unexpectedly the car is better but still too firm for my liking.
 Sachs/Boge only lists one shock, which I assume is also an HD type (although
 I've not called them to verify). The MB-EPC has superceded the original
 shocks with - you guessed it - the HD version.

 I understand that Koni offers adjustable shocks that will fit the W108. It
 would also seem that Koni is a top-tier OEM supplier to various reputable
 auto marques, apparently including MB on certain performance models.

 I'm trying to achieve a softer ride, closer to a W123. Right now the W108
 is riding more like a skateboard/Honda Civic. I have already replaced the
 hydropneumatic compensator with a spring, and in turn replaced that spring
 with the weakest available configuration from MB. That helped, but the
 shocks are definitely too hard.

 Hoping someone has something good to say about the Koni adjustables...

 D.

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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 10:54:30 -0500
From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] danish
Message-ID:
   8b0e7cce1001260754w2e313ccbu9b634d8af2087...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

yeah, some have given up the old washboard already

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:

 RLE wrote:
  ...Wrong list, I think...
 
  Not at all.

 Washing Machines?
 mao

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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 11:37:40 -0500
From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Danish ad with scantily dressed ladies
Message-ID: 1264523860.20941.1356663...@webmail.messagingengine.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

All in all, I'd rather see ads like these on TV here than the endless stream 
of ads for erectile dysfunction meds.
In fact, the former might help with the latter ;-)

Allan



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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 11:46:55 -0500
From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Danish ad with scantily dressed ladies
Message-ID:
   fbc36f3b1001260846u54053aa8gd67ad141cf3fb...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

I have to agree, you might be onto something there. ;-)

Ed
300E

2010/1/26 Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu

 All in all, I'd rather see ads like these on TV here than the endless
 stream 

Re: [MBZ] DEEZL?

2010-01-26 Thread RELNGSON
 ...Woger thought the side of the plane said Porche.  After all, this IS
 the porche list, isn't it?...
 
You are still hoping to turn this into a diesel list only, right? Pitiful.

RLE
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Adjustable shocks - Koni?

2010-01-26 Thread Gary Hurst
you can sit and adjust konis till the end of time and it will not help as
shocks are not the issue.  it's that you got rid of the compensator.  that
killed the ride.  you need to put the compensator back on or sell the car.

generally it's not a great idea to butcher these cars, but people do it
anyway everyday.

last i checked on those they were hellaciously expensive new.  i don't buy
from a benz dealer, so i wouldn't be able to source you one at a value
price, but rusty does so he can easily get you one if they are still
available.  or maybe just start looking for a good used cheap one.

i wish i had better news for you

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 2:58 PM, David Bruckmann 
bruckma...@transcontinental.ca wrote:

 Whoops! Sorry about the non-clipped quote on the prev post

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Re: [MBZ] Adjustable shocks - Koni?

2010-01-26 Thread Gary Hurst
i called a benz dealer and they seem to be NLA from mercedes.  you will have
to do some legwork or just give up and sell the car

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:

 you can sit and adjust konis till the end of time and it will not help as
 shocks are not the issue.  it's that you got rid of the compensator.  that
 killed the ride.  you need to put the compensator back on or sell the car.

 generally it's not a great idea to butcher these cars, but people do it
 anyway everyday.

 last i checked on those they were hellaciously expensive new.  i don't buy
 from a benz dealer, so i wouldn't be able to source you one at a value
 price, but rusty does so he can easily get you one if they are still
 available.  or maybe just start looking for a good used cheap one.

 i wish i had better news for you


 On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 2:58 PM, David Bruckmann 
 bruckma...@transcontinental.ca wrote:

 Whoops! Sorry about the non-clipped quote on the prev post

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Re: [MBZ] Koni

2010-01-26 Thread RELNGSON
 Hoping someone has something good to say about the Koni 
 adjustables...
 
They are OK in the right application. You aren't going to turn a 108 into a 
sports car (impossible) by fitting Koni shocks but you will ruin the ride. 
I know this because I replaced the originals on my '72 250 (in about '76) 
with Koni and I regretted it.

Before the 250 I owned a Dodge Dart GT 318 as a go-to-work car and put 
Konis on it and found that it was still a Dodge Dart.

My current Porsche was factory equipped with Koni Sport shocks (set full 
soft) which have been replaced once and I have always thought the ride was too 
stiff. My Porsche 356B T5 coupe's option list offered Koni shocks for $8.00 
extra. For four.

Buy Bilsteins.

RLE
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] FI

2010-01-26 Thread RELNGSON
 911-E and 911-S weren't D-Jet? What were they?..
 
Mechanical injection. Zero electronics. Same as the RS. First year for CIS 
was 1973.5 in the 911T. Hope dieselhead didn't see this.

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Re: [MBZ] look again

2010-01-26 Thread RELNGSON
 -I was looking for the mistake you mentioned, you jackass. Never 
 found it, so
 your snide remark would be more applicable to yourself than to me...
 
Then you missed that the mistake reference was by the eagle-eyed Hendrik, 
not me.

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Re: [MBZ] uh oh a synthetic oil thread!

2010-01-26 Thread Peter Hertzing
Good Point - for Don the oil lasts the life of the car.  Following the trip
ticker thing on the new Lincoln Towncar Limos I just bought - It seems you
could easily go 25K miles between changes.  I think I will stick with my
traditional every 4 months. or 4K whichever comes first.

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 1:53 PM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote:

 It probably would not matter so long as you planned to sell the car by the
 time you put about 10K on it. Donald
 never keeps cars long enough to wear out the oil.

 Randy

 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
  [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Gary Hurst
 Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:39 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] uh oh a synthetic oil thread!


 i wouldn't run any oil for 15k miles no matter what any test said



 On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net
 wrote:

  I would stick with synthetic as it will protect the engine better.  The
  cost
  difference between conventional and synthetic is minimal when compared to
  other ownership costs.  If you are not confident about the drain
 interval,
  do an oil analysis to confirm that the oil is still satisfactory at 15k
  miles.
 
  Greg
 
  -Original Message-
  From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:
 mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
  On Behalf Of Donald Snook
  Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:06 AM
  To: 'Mercedes@okiebenz.com'
  Subject: [MBZ] uh oh a synthetic oil thread!
 
  I just bought a new-to-me BMW 528i.  It has only been serviced at the
  dealer.  They use Castrol Full Synthetic 5-30 and the recommended service
  interval is 15,000 miles.  It has 58,000 miles.  So, here's the question:
 
  Is it true that one should not switch to conventional oil if the car has
 a
  history of synthetic?  Is 15,000 miles really okay on this oil?  Would I
 be
  better off changing much more frequently if I used conventional oil?
 
  Donald H. Snook
 
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Re: [MBZ] Adjustable shocks - Koni?

2010-01-26 Thread Rusty Cullens
I sell a conversion spring kit for $475.00 which works well, I have one in 
my 1969 280SEL.



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- Original Message - 
From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Adjustable shocks - Koni?


i called a benz dealer and they seem to be NLA from mercedes.  you will 
have

to do some legwork or just give up and sell the car

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:


you can sit and adjust konis till the end of time and it will not help as
shocks are not the issue.  it's that you got rid of the compensator. 
that
killed the ride.  you need to put the compensator back on or sell the 
car.


generally it's not a great idea to butcher these cars, but people do it
anyway everyday.

last i checked on those they were hellaciously expensive new.  i don't 
buy

from a benz dealer, so i wouldn't be able to source you one at a value
price, but rusty does so he can easily get you one if they are still
available.  or maybe just start looking for a good used cheap one.

i wish i had better news for you


On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 2:58 PM, David Bruckmann 
bruckma...@transcontinental.ca wrote:


Whoops! Sorry about the non-clipped quote on the prev post

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Re: [MBZ] Adjustable shocks - Koni?

2010-01-26 Thread Mitch Haley

David Bruckmann wrote:


I either have to get the shocks softened up, or sell the car.


Just throw a 400lb Gary in the cabin and it'll smooth right out.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Adjustable shocks - Koni?

2010-01-26 Thread R A Bennell
Gee, did Gary lose weight?

Randy (who found that weight maybe)

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Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:00 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Adjustable shocks - Koni?


David Bruckmann wrote:

 I either have to get the shocks softened up, or sell the car.

Just throw a 400lb Gary in the cabin and it'll smooth right out.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Adjustable shocks - Koni?

2010-01-26 Thread R A Bennell
Cannot help myself - must respond again.

I really doubt you can throw Gary.

Randy

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[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Mitch Haley
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:00 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Adjustable shocks - Koni?


David Bruckmann wrote:

 I either have to get the shocks softened up, or sell the car.

Just throw a 400lb Gary in the cabin and it'll smooth right out.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Adjustable shocks - Koni?

2010-01-26 Thread Mitch Haley

R A Bennell wrote:

Gee, did Gary lose weight?



Seems like the tea thread on the other list started with Gary mentioning that 
he'd seen 400lb for the first time in years. Don't eat ice cream, drink good 
black tea instead.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Danish ad with scantily dressed ladies

2010-01-26 Thread Mountain Man
Allan wrote:
 All in all, I'd rather see ads like these on TV here than the endless stream 
 of ads for erectile dysfunction meds.  In fact, the former might help with 
 the latter ;-)


hear, hear

Of course - I don't see tv anymore.  No more analog signals in the air.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Danish ad with scantily dressed ladies

2010-01-26 Thread Mountain Man
WILTON wrote:
 What bathtubs?  ;)

Go watch it again - I didn't see them either... so here I go to watch
it again - to see two bathtubs.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Danish ad with scantily dressed ladies

2010-01-26 Thread Mountain Man
--R wrote:
 I would want to go on for more than 4 hours

Yeah - lemme have that side effect.
I may not like it after the meds wear off - but it might be nice to experience?
...nuthin' but real, whole food passes these lips...
mao

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Re: [MBZ] DEEZL?

2010-01-26 Thread Mountain Man
RLE wrote:
 You are still hoping to turn this into a diesel list only, right? Pitiful.

Did porsche make a diesel engine?
mao

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[MBZ] OT: The ongoing saga

2010-01-26 Thread Curt Raymond
So you may remember the chest pains I started complaining about a couple months 
ago. We've been noodling along assuming I had some kind of GERD and then last 
week the doc had me get a cardiac CT just to finally rule out my heart.

Last night he called, the CT looks iffy so I need a cardiac cath.

Today I talked to the cardiologist, I've got a 75% blockage on the ascending 
whatsis (thats my technical term) which is, as they say bad. Worse still 
theres no guidance in what you do when a 33 year old has 75% blockage.

Anyway it sounds like tomorrow I'm probably going to get a stent put in...

So I may not be on the list for a couple days and suddenly I'm not so worried 
about he right side dash light in my 240D burning out, although I did order 
some LED bulbs to try out. Gives me something to look forward to.

-Curt



  
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Re: [MBZ] Brake booster?

2010-01-26 Thread Curt Raymond
Just over a year ago when I completely overhauled the brakes, its got all new 
rotors, pads, calipers and soft hoses.

-Curt

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 13:10:13 -0500
From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake booster?
Message-ID:
    fbc36f3b1001261010y4a455d52w291095ca48291...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

When did you last change the brake fluid ?

Ed
300E

2010/1/26 Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com

 '83 240D.

 So the other day I headed for work and hit the brakes at the end of the
 street and had a squishy pedal. Hit it again and everything was just fine.

 Drove it all week and it was fine until yesterday when I went home. Again
 squishy pedal where it didn't feel like I was going to stop. Hit the pedal
 again and it was fine...

 So what could be causing this? Leaky power brake booster?

 -Curt


  
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Re: [MBZ] Brake booster?

2010-01-26 Thread Curt Raymond
Haven't been able to check, I don't think theres a leak because theres no loss 
in pressure at the pedal after the initial squishyness. No fluid loss that I 
can detect at the reservoir.

-Curt

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 13:12:37 -0500
From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake booster?
Message-ID: 4b5f3095.8000...@constructivity.net
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

How's the fluid level?  Any leaks at a brake line or caliper?  Or maybe 
the master cylinder?  A booster leak would make it hard to push if the 
vacuum was leaking out (or air leaking in, you know what I mean).

--R

Curt Raymond wrote:
 '83 240D.


So the other day I headed for work and hit the brakes at the end of the
street and had a squishy pedal. Hit it again and everything was just
fine.

 Drove it all week and it was fine until yesterday
when I went home. Again squishy pedal where it didn't feel like I was
going to stop. Hit the pedal again and it was fine...

 So what could be causing this? Leaky power brake booster?

 -Curt


  
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Re: [MBZ] Brake booster?

2010-01-26 Thread Mitch Haley

Curt Raymond wrote:

Just over a year ago when I completely overhauled the brakes, its got all new 
rotors, pads, calipers and soft hoses.


Could it feel soft after a long drive if the pads slowly retract further during 
the trip?


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] uh oh a synthetic oil thread!

2010-01-26 Thread Curt Raymond
Castrol is a group III (or was anyway) not-real synthetic. Switch to Mobil 1, 
send samples to Larry to get analyzed and you'll know how long your change 
interval can be. I'm doing 12,000 mile changes on my 190D so I wouldn't think 
15,000 would be unreasonable.

-Curt

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 13:05:32 -0600
From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com
To: 'Mercedes@okiebenz.com' Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] uh oh a synthetic oil thread!
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I just bought a new-to-me BMW 528i. 
It has only been serviced at the dealer.  They use Castrol Full
Synthetic 5-30 and the recommended service interval is 15,000 miles. 
It has 58,000 miles.  So, here's the question:

Is it true that
one should not switch to conventional oil if the car has a history of
synthetic?  Is 15,000 miles really okay on this oil?  Would I be better
off changing much more frequently if I used conventional oil?

Donald H. Snook



  
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The ongoing saga

2010-01-26 Thread Mountain Man
Curt wrote:
 Worse still theres no guidance in what you do when a 33 year old has 75% 
 blockage.


At 33 - I guess you might want to know.
Otherwise - don't ask, don't find out.
I ain't gonna participate in making insco more wealth - I stay away.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT: The ongoing saga

2010-01-26 Thread Rich Thomas
Best of luck getting that fuel line sorted out.  Next thing to do is not 
run grease through it as we know that will clog up hoses and injectors 
in a 33 yr old vehicle.  You want to keep the compression up in those 
cylinders too -- they need to be run hard up hills.  In your case though 
you might not want to peg the pressure on the gauge after startup or 
running hard.


And be sure while you're there to have the doc REPLACE ALL YOUR FUSES!!!

--R

Curt Raymond wrote:

So you may remember the chest pains I started complaining about a couple months 
ago. We've been noodling along assuming I had some kind of GERD and then last 
week the doc had me get a cardiac CT just to finally rule out my heart.

Last night he called, the CT looks iffy so I need a cardiac cath.

Today I talked to the cardiologist, I've got a 75% blockage on the ascending whatsis 
(thats my technical term) which is, as they say bad. Worse still theres no 
guidance in what you do when a 33 year old has 75% blockage.

Anyway it sounds like tomorrow I'm probably going to get a stent put in...

So I may not be on the list for a couple days and suddenly I'm not so worried 
about he right side dash light in my 240D burning out, although I did order 
some LED bulbs to try out. Gives me something to look forward to.

-Curt



  
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The ongoing saga

2010-01-26 Thread John Reames
Yech.  You are likely off the low end of the age chart for CABG...  
Maybe a LIMA (if one would be enough...)


-j

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On Jan 26, 2010, at 16:52, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

So you may remember the chest pains I started complaining about a  
couple months ago. We've been noodling along assuming I had some  
kind of GERD and then last week the doc had me get a cardiac CT just  
to finally rule out my heart.


Last night he called, the CT looks iffy so I need a cardiac cath.

Today I talked to the cardiologist, I've got a 75% blockage on the  
ascending whatsis (thats my technical term) which is, as they say  
bad. Worse still theres no guidance in what you do when a 33 year  
old has 75% blockage.


Anyway it sounds like tomorrow I'm probably going to get a stent put  
in...


So I may not be on the list for a couple days and suddenly I'm not  
so worried about he right side dash light in my 240D burning out,  
although I did order some LED bulbs to try out. Gives me something  
to look forward to.


-Curt




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Re: [MBZ] 1984 230E

2010-01-26 Thread Hendrik Fay
Actually the 102 did not make an appearance until 1980, prior to that 
the M115 was the I4 engine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mercedes-Benz_engines

Hendrik
who used to own a 200 with 4sp man and a 230E with auto and later with a 
5sp man box


Robert Bigham wrote:

I have a greymarket 1983 230E.  It's fuel injected; that's what the E means.  
Einspritzmotor.

As you may suspect, I've had to learn things about it that I didn't really want 
to know; the parts places (not Rusty) know nothing.  MBUSA knows all about it.  
The dealers generally pull a Sergeant Schultz.  It's not in their databases.  
To some, it's just a 240D in drag.

The earlier, 1977-78 or so, cars were 230 without the E or maybe 200.  Still a 102 engine.  They had carburetors.  230, 230C, and 230 something else, IIRC. 



  

  



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Re: [MBZ] DEEZL?

2010-01-26 Thread Hendrik Fay

Yes they did.

Hendrik

Mountain Man wrote:

RLE wrote:
  

You are still hoping to turn this into a diesel list only, right? Pitiful.



Did porsche make a diesel engine?
mao


  



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Re: [MBZ] OT: The ongoing saga

2010-01-26 Thread R A Bennell
Good luck. Hope it all goes well.

I did not get a stent but did have the test where they put the tube in through 
the groin and then have a look
inside. Mine turned out fine apparently. The one thing I regret is that I let 
them give me the anaesthetic - did I
spell that right? They told me I could or did not need to have it. I asked what 
they recommended and ended up with
it. I was told I could watch the whole thing on the monitor but I don't recall 
much of anything due to the drugs. I
do remember the big clamp on my leg afterward to make sure I did not bleed 
while the hole they made clogged itself
up. They hauled me back accross town to another hospital and brought me lunch 
and then told me I was not to even
lift my head. Just lie flat on my back for another hour or two. Ever try to eat 
off of a tray overhead without
lifting your head at all? Especially the soup?

In any event, not trying to steal your thread but if all goes well it will be 
quick and easy and should fix your
immediate issues.

Randy

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Curt Raymond
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:52 PM
To: Diesel List
Subject: [MBZ] OT: The ongoing saga


So you may remember the chest pains I started complaining about a couple months 
ago. We've been noodling along
assuming I had some kind of GERD and then last week the doc had me get a 
cardiac CT just to finally rule out my
heart.

Last night he called, the CT looks iffy so I need a cardiac cath.

Today I talked to the cardiologist, I've got a 75% blockage on the ascending 
whatsis (thats my technical term)
which is, as they say bad. Worse still theres no guidance in what you do when 
a 33 year old has 75% blockage.

Anyway it sounds like tomorrow I'm probably going to get a stent put in...

So I may not be on the list for a couple days and suddenly I'm not so worried 
about he right side dash light in my
240D burning out, although I did order some LED bulbs to try out. Gives me 
something to look forward to.

-Curt




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Re: [MBZ] Lost prime in traffic

2010-01-26 Thread Mountain Man
Max wrote:
 2) Leaking fuel primer pump.  If old style with white handle that you
 unscrew before operating, and it leaks even the slightest bit of fuel,
 replace it.

I found replacement was a real job.
Large hex, skinny place to reach - it was not an easy job.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Brake booster?

2010-01-26 Thread Curt Raymond
It could I guess, but it doesn't... Both times its happened its been after 
sitting 8+ hours.

-Curt

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:02:50 -0500
From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake booster?
Message-ID: 4b5f668a.8080...@voyager.net
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Curt Raymond wrote:
 Just over a year ago when I completely overhauled the brakes, its got all new 
 rotors, pads, calipers and soft hoses.

Could it feel soft after a long drive if the pads slowly retract further during 
the trip?

Mitch.


  
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Re: [MBZ] Lost prime in traffic

2010-01-26 Thread Mitch Haley

Mountain Man wrote:


I found replacement was a real job.
Large hex, skinny place to reach - it was not an easy job.


I've heard a 10 curved jaw Vice-Grip will grab the pump cylinder.
Won't look very pretty afterwards.
Replacement is a much smaller hex.
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Brake booster?

2010-01-26 Thread Mitch Haley

Curt Raymond wrote:

It could I guess, but it doesn't... Both times its happened its been after 
sitting 8+ hours.


OK, if you've replaced everything but the master cylinder...

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: The ongoing saga

2010-01-26 Thread Curt Raymond
Thanks, needed that.

;)

-Curt

Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:06:07 -0500
From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The ongoing saga
Message-ID: 4b5f674f.2050...@constructivity.net
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Best of luck getting that fuel line sorted out.  Next thing to do is not 
run grease through it as we know that will clog up hoses and injectors 
in a 33 yr old vehicle.  You want to keep the compression up in those 
cylinders too -- they need to be run hard up hills.  In your case though 
you might not want to peg the pressure on the gauge after startup or 
running hard.

And be sure while you're there to have the doc REPLACE ALL YOUR FUSES!!!

--R

Curt Raymond wrote:

So you may remember the chest pains I started complaining about a
couple months ago. We've been noodling along assuming I had some kind
of GERD and then last week the doc had me get a cardiac CT just to
finally rule out my heart.

 Last night he called, the CT looks iffy so I need a cardiac cath.


Today I talked to the cardiologist, I've got a 75% blockage on the
ascending whatsis (thats my technical term) which is, as they say
bad. Worse still theres no guidance in what you do when a 33 year old
has 75% blockage.

 Anyway it sounds like tomorrow I'm probably going to get a stent put in...


So I may not be on the list for a couple days and suddenly I'm not so
worried about he right side dash light in my 240D burning out, although
I did order some LED bulbs to try out. Gives me something to look
forward to.

 -Curt


  
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Re: [MBZ] 1984 230E

2010-01-26 Thread Mountain Man
Robert wrote:
 I have a greymarket 1983 230E.  It's fuel injected; that's what the E means.  
 Einspritzmotor.


If you want to sell it - let me know.
From what jabba says - it sounds like a nice ride.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Adjustable shocks - Koni?

2010-01-26 Thread Gary Hurst
he has an eight cylinder.  he is doomed for spring.

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote:

 I sell a conversion spring kit for $475.00 which works well, I have one in
 my 1969 280SEL.


 Rusty Cullens
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 - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com

 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:12 PM

 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Adjustable shocks - Koni?


  i called a benz dealer and they seem to be NLA from mercedes.  you will
 have
 to do some legwork or just give up and sell the car

 On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  you can sit and adjust konis till the end of time and it will not help as
 shocks are not the issue.  it's that you got rid of the compensator. that
 killed the ride.  you need to put the compensator back on or sell the
 car.

 generally it's not a great idea to butcher these cars, but people do it
 anyway everyday.

 last i checked on those they were hellaciously expensive new.  i don't
 buy
 from a benz dealer, so i wouldn't be able to source you one at a value
 price, but rusty does so he can easily get you one if they are still
 available.  or maybe just start looking for a good used cheap one.

 i wish i had better news for you


 On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 2:58 PM, David Bruckmann 
 bruckma...@transcontinental.ca wrote:

  Whoops! Sorry about the non-clipped quote on the prev post

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Re: [MBZ] Adjustable shocks - Koni?

2010-01-26 Thread Gary Hurst
yeah, i'm only incredibly mobidly small time circus obese and no longer
ringling brothers fat man obese

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 R A Bennell wrote:

 Gee, did Gary lose weight?


 Seems like the tea thread on the other list started with Gary mentioning
 that he'd seen 400lb for the first time in years. Don't eat ice cream, drink
 good black tea instead.


 Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Lost prime in traffic

2010-01-26 Thread Dieselhead
I just use a vicegrip or channellocks on the top of the tube to get 
the old one loose.  I finally broke down and bought a crowsfoot to 
get to the flats on the replacement.  Before that, I wrapped a shop 
rag around the top of the new pump and tightened it with the 
chanellocks on the top of the barrel.
The bear is getting the gasket to stay in place on the descent down 
into the hole on a 123 300D.  I use a little grease on the threads to 
hold the gasket on.




Max wrote:

 2) Leaking fuel primer pump.  If old style with white handle that you
 unscrew before operating, and it leaks even the slightest bit of fuel,
 replace it.


I found replacement was a real job.
Large hex, skinny place to reach - it was not an easy job.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Danish ad with scantily dressed ladies

2010-01-26 Thread WILTON

Still didn't see any bathtubs.

Wilton

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Danish ad with scantily dressed ladies



WILTON wrote:

What bathtubs?  ;)


Go watch it again - I didn't see them either... so here I go to watch
it again - to see two bathtubs.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT: The ongoing saga

2010-01-26 Thread Frederick W Moir

Curt  Angie.
Joanne  I are rooting for you and a minor annoyance that goes away  
quietly.

Fred Moir
Lynn MA

On 1/26/2010 4:52 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
Anyway it sounds like tomorrow I'm probably going to get a stent put in...
So I may not be on the list for a couple days and suddenly I'm not so 
worried about he right side dash light in my 240D burning out,
although I did order some LED bulbs to try out. Gives me something to 
look forward to.


-Curt


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Re: [MBZ] OT: The ongoing saga

2010-01-26 Thread Allan Streib
Keeping you in my thoughts for a good outcome... this sort of thing is
pretty routine these days so I'm sure you'll be back to the wrenches in
no time.

Allan

Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes:

 So you may remember the chest pains I started complaining about a couple 
 months ago. We've been noodling along assuming I had some kind of GERD and 
 then last week the doc had me get a cardiac CT just to finally rule out my 
 heart.

 Last night he called, the CT looks iffy so I need a cardiac cath.

 Today I talked to the cardiologist, I've got a 75% blockage on the ascending 
 whatsis (thats my technical term) which is, as they say bad. Worse still 
 theres no guidance in what you do when a 33 year old has 75% blockage.

 Anyway it sounds like tomorrow I'm probably going to get a stent put in...

 So I may not be on the list for a couple days and suddenly I'm not so worried 
 about he right side dash light in my 240D burning out, although I did order 
 some LED bulbs to try out. Gives me something to look forward to.

 -Curt



   
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