[MBZ] Daimler AG: immediate ban on sales of original parts to non-authorized dealers
Yesterday I received the following notification from DB Depot in Germany (I've made a couple of minor corrections to their translation from German). I wonder if the new policy affects our friendly retailers here in the United States. Rusty, any comment? I notice that things are pepping up over at www.mbwholesaleparts.com, which probably has something to do with all of this... 2010-12-03 Mid-November, Daimler AG imposed an immediate ban of sales for original parts to non-authorized dealers, under threat of penalty in case of violation on the part of the official Mercedes dealers, to the point of withdrawal of the official dealer authorization. In our case this meant the compulsory and abrupt ending of a trustful business relationship with the local Mercedes dealer that had lasted for nearly two decades. In view of the sharpness and haste with which this sanction was set upon the world, gives an idea of the pressure under which the Daimler AG is acting here. Unfortunate and questionable it is however, that no official information is given to enlighten the background - this lets us only assume, that it might all have to do with the continuous issues between the Daimler AG and the US stock exchange supervision SEC. Having said all this, you might finally want to know, how all this might affect you? Well, actually there won't be serious changes to our product range: we will still be able to offer OEM quality products such as rubber seals, engine-, axle- and suspension parts at very competitive prices. The one thing that will change, is that there will temporarily be no more complementary smaller bits like clips, screws or other parts, that are exclusively supplied by Mercedes. We will use the now free capacity to expand our product range to other Mercedes models and components not yet listed - so keep expecting the most of us. http://www.dbdepot.de/index.php?nav=1lan=2; ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Door Lock lubricant for '95 124
Thanks John - so probably the little can of pressurized lubricant from MB will be fine? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of John Reames Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 2:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Door Lock lubricant for '95 124 I would think that graphite should be verboten... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Dec 6, 2010, at 14:35, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Dieselvolk, What is the proper lube to use in the door tumbler and trunk tumbler on a late model 124 which still has a working alarm system? When really cold (below 40 deg F) my 'new' sedan will sound the alarm, upon unlocking the car from the trunk and then opening the trunk or door; opening from the driver's door does not sound the alarm. When warm, no problem. Does this sound like a lubrication problem, or a deeper problem? Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 333k miles '95 E300 277k miles (no longer a project!!!) '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners
Anyone ever retro-fit a house with central vacuum? My house is two story, has crawl space easily accessible and attic as well. I've fished various wires down the walls from above - what size piping is required for central vac? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:39 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners I've been using central vacs for 42 years; 'even designed and installed systems in IBM, ATT and DuPont labs at Research Triangle Park, Raleigh, etc., while I was off active duty from USAF and playing boy-student '68-'71. Power unit for the system I've been using here for 22 years is one I made using an old Sears shop vac tank with a Lamb motor/fan assembly left over from one of the RTP jobs after I converted the RTP system to operate VERY well and nearly maintenance-free by shooting compressed air through a venturi. Wilton - Original Message - From: LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners Central vacs are definitely the way to go. While the initial upfront cost is high, the convenience and efficiency of a central vac system blows (sucks?) away any portable vac. Not to mention not having to empty it out buy maybe once or twice a year... We have built a couple of homes with central vacs, and I would do it again without hesitation. Dan --- On Sat, 12/4/10, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, December 4, 2010, 10:06 AM Central vac beats them all, we've got a cheap one and it'll put a drunk sorority girl to shame... Get too close to one of those plastic grocery bags and *sluurrpp* its gone! I also like that we only need to empty the thing once a year, no bags either... -Curt Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2010 09:06:38 -0500 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners Message-ID: 1291471598.9250.1408627...@webmail.messagingengine.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii We have an Oreck. It's a good vacuum, better than the Royal it replaced, but I don't think they really live up to the legend. Open one up to change the belt---it's all plastic and the motor doesn't look like much. Hotels use them because they are light and they vacuum every day---they never have to pick up a lot of deep dirt. For pure suction, I think our Kenmore canister has the Oreck beat by a fair margin. It's not as easy to use or nearly as light, though. Allan On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 18:00 -0800, Kevin Kraly kr...@comcast.net wrote: They've been making Orecks with the same basic design for 47 years, man that's a long time! The new one has a LED light on the front, hepa outer bag and hepa filter bags as well. We'll see how it stacks up to the Dyson DC14 and the old Kirby Heritage II Legend. We have plenty of a challenge for any vacuum with two low shedding Labradoodle guide dogs, a high shedding retired black Lab, a Lhasa Apso, a Maltese and a few cats. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Craigslist archive?
Does the Wayback Machine (aka Internet Archive) work for this sort of stuff? http://www.archive.org/web/web.php -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of David Bruckmann Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 7:38 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craigslist archive? Yes, the email bounces. Through search term trickery (creeping forwards through the posting so that it shows proximate words) I was able to coax Google into showing me the other cached pieces of the ad, which did not include a phone number. Alas. But surely somewhere out there is a CL archive...??? D. Mitch Haley wrote: Does mail to sale-duczw-2068144...@craigslist.org bounce? David Bruckmann wrote: Hello, I'm looking for a car for a colleague and saw a 1979 or 80 SD for sale nearby on CL. It had been posted my times. The posting has since expired, so I can't call the seller. There does not appear to be any way to retrieve a cached copy of this, which is odd because I've been able to do it before! Anyone with a trick, I'd be most appreciative. Text of header is below: Mercedes Diesel 300SD - $1950 (menlo park). Date: 2010-11-18, 5:24PM PST Reply to: sale-duczw-2068144...@craigslist.org. Runs great. A/C blows ice cold... sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/cto/2068144833.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Craigslist archive?
I set up a Google Voive phone number for Craigslist. It allows me to block anyone that I do not want to hear from anymore. I have not had to block anyone but it's a nice option as well as I get text messages at my regular phone, where the number is forwarded to, and a voice mailbox I can check on the computer. Phone listings move faster for me. Steve On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca writes: But surely somewhere out there is a CL archive...??? I'm not sure there would be. CL would probably attempt to thwart it if anybody tried. CL thwarts anything that will make their site useful. Decent search, for instance. I've been in the same situation as David B. more than once. How do you know if someone let an ad expire because they sold the whatever-it-was or because they gave up trying to sell it (and will therefore probably be very receptive to offers, if only you can get hold of them)? If you don't want people calling you after you've already sold something, don't put your phone number in the ad. (Anyone who puts their phone number in a CL ad is nuts anyway in my book.) If you don't want to deal with their emails, set up an autoresponder. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners
The places that sell them do installations all the time, including existing houses. Ones I have see used 1 1/2 plastic Anyone ever retro-fit a house with central vacuum? My house is two story, has crawl space easily accessible and attic as well. I've fished various wires down the walls from above - what size piping is required for central vac? -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Door Lock lubricant for '95 124
If MB sells it for their locks, it should work for their locks. ;) Walt On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Thanks John - so probably the little can of pressurized lubricant from MB will be fine? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of John Reames Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 2:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Door Lock lubricant for '95 124 I would think that graphite should be verboten... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Dec 6, 2010, at 14:35, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Dieselvolk, What is the proper lube to use in the door tumbler and trunk tumbler on a late model 124 which still has a working alarm system? When really cold (below 40 deg F) my 'new' sedan will sound the alarm, upon unlocking the car from the trunk and then opening the trunk or door; opening from the driver's door does not sound the alarm. When warm, no problem. Does this sound like a lubrication problem, or a deeper problem? Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 333k miles '95 E300 277k miles (no longer a project!!!) '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Door Lock lubricant for '95 124
The late MB said to only use the MB stuff. But that is what he said about most everything. I think the issue was that using other stuff would short out alarm circuits that apparently are wired through the door locks, graphite would short them and other stuff would gunk them up. --R On 12/7/2010 9:12 AM, Walt Zarnoch wrote: If MB sells it for their locks, it should work for their locks. ;) Walt On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Thanks John - so probably the little can of pressurized lubricant from MB will be fine? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of John Reames Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 2:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Door Lock lubricant for '95 124 I would think that graphite should be verboten... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Dec 6, 2010, at 14:35, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote: Dieselvolk, What is the proper lube to use in the door tumbler and trunk tumbler on a late model 124 which still has a working alarm system? When really cold (below 40 deg F) my 'new' sedan will sound the alarm, upon unlocking the car from the trunk and then opening the trunk or door; opening from the driver's door does not sound the alarm. When warm, no problem. Does this sound like a lubrication problem, or a deeper problem? Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 333k miles '95 E300 277k miles (no longer a project!!!) '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Craigslist archive?
There's sort of an unwritten rule that listings with a local phone number are less likely to be scams. I was certain I'd read this in the CL how to avoid scams at one point, along with the only deal with local people you can meet face-to-face but it's not there now. Allan On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 08:28 -0500, SteveB mguzzir...@gmail.com wrote: I set up a Google Voive phone number for Craigslist. It allows me to block anyone that I do not want to hear from anymore. I have not had to block anyone but it's a nice option as well as I get text messages at my regular phone, where the number is forwarded to, and a voice mailbox I can check on the computer. Phone listings move faster for me. Steve On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca writes: But surely somewhere out there is a CL archive...??? I'm not sure there would be. CL would probably attempt to thwart it if anybody tried. CL thwarts anything that will make their site useful. Decent search, for instance. I've been in the same situation as David B. more than once. How do you know if someone let an ad expire because they sold the whatever-it-was or because they gave up trying to sell it (and will therefore probably be very receptive to offers, if only you can get hold of them)? If you don't want people calling you after you've already sold something, don't put your phone number in the ad. (Anyone who puts their phone number in a CL ad is nuts anyway in my book.) If you don't want to deal with their emails, set up an autoresponder. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Daimler AG: immediate ban on sales of original parts to non-authorized dealers
I called my contacts and they have heard nothing of the sort. They have not been able to sell TRP (theft related parts)items for some time but that is all. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 3:09 AM Subject: [MBZ] Daimler AG: immediate ban on sales of original parts to non-authorized dealers Yesterday I received the following notification from DB Depot in Germany (I've made a couple of minor corrections to their translation from German). I wonder if the new policy affects our friendly retailers here in the United States. Rusty, any comment? I notice that things are pepping up over at www.mbwholesaleparts.com, which probably has something to do with all of this... 2010-12-03 Mid-November, Daimler AG imposed an immediate ban of sales for original parts to non-authorized dealers, under threat of penalty in case of violation on the part of the official Mercedes dealers, to the point of withdrawal of the official dealer authorization. In our case this meant the compulsory and abrupt ending of a trustful business relationship with the local Mercedes dealer that had lasted for nearly two decades. In view of the sharpness and haste with which this sanction was set upon the world, gives an idea of the pressure under which the Daimler AG is acting here. Unfortunate and questionable it is however, that no official information is given to enlighten the background - this lets us only assume, that it might all have to do with the continuous issues between the Daimler AG and the US stock exchange supervision SEC. Having said all this, you might finally want to know, how all this might affect you? Well, actually there won't be serious changes to our product range: we will still be able to offer OEM quality products such as rubber seals, engine-, axle- and suspension parts at very competitive prices. The one thing that will change, is that there will temporarily be no more complementary smaller bits like clips, screws or other parts, that are exclusively supplied by Mercedes. We will use the now free capacity to expand our product range to other Mercedes models and components not yet listed - so keep expecting the most of us. http://www.dbdepot.de/index.php?nav=1lan=2; ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Daimler AG: immediate ban on sales of original parts to non-authorized dealers
More to the point, it is no longer possible for my Indy to get lock cylinders or keys. One must go to the dealer with valid ID and registration, and the dealer MUST keep a photocopy of the paperwork for the purchase of a lock cylinder or key and ID/drivers license/registration on file forever. This is related to the problem of people buying keys to steal cars. Peter -Original Message- From: David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca Sent: Dec 7, 2010 2:09 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Daimler AG: immediate ban on sales of original parts to non-authorized dealers Yesterday I received the following notification from DB Depot in Germany (I've made a couple of minor corrections to their translation from German). I wonder if the new policy affects our friendly retailers here in the United States. Rusty, any comment? I notice that things are pepping up over at www.mbwholesaleparts.com, which probably has something to do with all of this... 2010-12-03 Mid-November, Daimler AG imposed an immediate ban of sales for original parts to non-authorized dealers, under threat of penalty in case of violation on the part of the official Mercedes dealers, to the point of withdrawal of the official dealer authorization. In our case this meant the compulsory and abrupt ending of a trustful business relationship with the local Mercedes dealer that had lasted for nearly two decades. In view of the sharpness and haste with which this sanction was set upon the world, gives an idea of the pressure under which the Daimler AG is acting here. Unfortunate and questionable it is however, that no official information is given to enlighten the background - this lets us only assume, that it might all have to do with the continuous issues between the Daimler AG and the US stock exchange supervision SEC. Having said all this, you might finally want to know, how all this might affect you? Well, actually there won't be serious changes to our product range: we will still be able to offer OEM quality products such as rubber seals, engine-, axle- and suspension parts at very competitive prices. The one thing that will change, is that there will temporarily be no more complementary smaller bits like clips, screws or other parts, that are exclusively supplied by Mercedes. We will use the now free capacity to expand our product range to other Mercedes models and components not yet listed - so keep expecting the most of us. http://www.dbdepot.de/index.php?nav=1lan=2; ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W114
http://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/2093884521.html Not mine, no interest, etc. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Daimler AG: immediate ban on sales of original parts to non-authorized dealers
I have been able to buy keys from Rusty... did have to send him scans of my DL and registration though. Allan On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 08:42 -0600, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: More to the point, it is no longer possible for my Indy to get lock cylinders or keys. One must go to the dealer with valid ID and registration, and the dealer MUST keep a photocopy of the paperwork for the purchase of a lock cylinder or key and ID/drivers license/registration on file forever. This is related to the problem of people buying keys to steal cars. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] What big-ticket items would I need to be wary of for this?
Thinking of going to look at this. http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/2079630303.html Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114
Ah! the magic words that forever made me a fan of Diesels: Dual Zenith Carbs http://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/2093884521.html Not mine, no interest, etc. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What big-ticket items would I need to be wary of for this?
Harsh ride = bad spheres leaking rear struts = Big Bad\leaking tandem pump wrong kind of fluid in suspension (ATF or Hyd oil) = Number 2 above green antifreeze signs of coolant leaking at the head gasket, usually front left or rear Thinking of going to look at this. http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/2079630303.html Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners
Yes, many. Usually, very easily; 'last one I retrofitted was the 3500 SF 105-year Georgian colonial revival (basement and crawlspace, 2 story, walk-up attic) house I've lived in for 22 years. I've often been able to find a chase big enough or, at times, the back corner of a closet. 2 thin-wall plastic piping; 10' lengths + all fittings, couplings, etc. Nutone is one brand I remember right now. 'Several other brands, too. Check building supply, Lowes, etc. 'Don't think my main supplier, Pullman, of 30 years ago does domestic vacs any more; they build lots of commercial, industrial vac equip. Is crawlspace near the access door tall enough for power unit, or is attic easily accessible enough for power unit? Power unit could also go in garage or utility closet. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners Anyone ever retro-fit a house with central vacuum? My house is two story, has crawl space easily accessible and attic as well. I've fished various wires down the walls from above - what size piping is required for central vac? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:39 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners I've been using central vacs for 42 years; 'even designed and installed systems in IBM, ATT and DuPont labs at Research Triangle Park, Raleigh, etc., while I was off active duty from USAF and playing boy-student '68-'71. Power unit for the system I've been using here for 22 years is one I made using an old Sears shop vac tank with a Lamb motor/fan assembly left over from one of the RTP jobs after I converted the RTP system to operate VERY well and nearly maintenance-free by shooting compressed air through a venturi. Wilton - Original Message - From: LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners Central vacs are definitely the way to go. While the initial upfront cost is high, the convenience and efficiency of a central vac system blows (sucks?) away any portable vac. Not to mention not having to empty it out buy maybe once or twice a year... We have built a couple of homes with central vacs, and I would do it again without hesitation. Dan --- On Sat, 12/4/10, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, December 4, 2010, 10:06 AM Central vac beats them all, we've got a cheap one and it'll put a drunk sorority girl to shame... Get too close to one of those plastic grocery bags and *sluurrpp* its gone! I also like that we only need to empty the thing once a year, no bags either... -Curt Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2010 09:06:38 -0500 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners Message-ID: 1291471598.9250.1408627...@webmail.messagingengine.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii We have an Oreck. It's a good vacuum, better than the Royal it replaced, but I don't think they really live up to the legend. Open one up to change the belt---it's all plastic and the motor doesn't look like much. Hotels use them because they are light and they vacuum every day---they never have to pick up a lot of deep dirt. For pure suction, I think our Kenmore canister has the Oreck beat by a fair margin. It's not as easy to use or nearly as light, though. Allan On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 18:00 -0800, Kevin Kraly kr...@comcast.net wrote: They've been making Orecks with the same basic design for 47 years, man that's a long time! The new one has a LED light on the front, hepa outer bag and hepa filter bags as well. We'll see how it stacks up to the Dyson DC14 and the old Kirby Heritage II Legend. We have plenty of a challenge for any vacuum with two low shedding Labradoodle guide dogs, a high shedding retired black Lab, a Lhasa Apso, a Maltese and a few cats. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Daimler AG: immediate ban on sales of original parts tonon-authorized dealers
Rusty, are you saying you can't get lock cylinders and keys for us from your dealer contact any more? Wilton - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 9:35 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Daimler AG: immediate ban on sales of original parts tonon-authorized dealers I called my contacts and they have heard nothing of the sort. They have not been able to sell TRP (theft related parts)items for some time but that is all. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 3:09 AM Subject: [MBZ] Daimler AG: immediate ban on sales of original parts to non-authorized dealers Yesterday I received the following notification from DB Depot in Germany (I've made a couple of minor corrections to their translation from German). I wonder if the new policy affects our friendly retailers here in the United States. Rusty, any comment? I notice that things are pepping up over at www.mbwholesaleparts.com, which probably has something to do with all of this... 2010-12-03 Mid-November, Daimler AG imposed an immediate ban of sales for original parts to non-authorized dealers, under threat of penalty in case of violation on the part of the official Mercedes dealers, to the point of withdrawal of the official dealer authorization. In our case this meant the compulsory and abrupt ending of a trustful business relationship with the local Mercedes dealer that had lasted for nearly two decades. In view of the sharpness and haste with which this sanction was set upon the world, gives an idea of the pressure under which the Daimler AG is acting here. Unfortunate and questionable it is however, that no official information is given to enlighten the background - this lets us only assume, that it might all have to do with the continuous issues between the Daimler AG and the US stock exchange supervision SEC. Having said all this, you might finally want to know, how all this might affect you? Well, actually there won't be serious changes to our product range: we will still be able to offer OEM quality products such as rubber seals, engine-, axle- and suspension parts at very competitive prices. The one thing that will change, is that there will temporarily be no more complementary smaller bits like clips, screws or other parts, that are exclusively supplied by Mercedes. We will use the now free capacity to expand our product range to other Mercedes models and components not yet listed - so keep expecting the most of us. http://www.dbdepot.de/index.php?nav=1lan=2; ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What big-ticket items would I need to be wary of for this?
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 7:00 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Thinking of going to look at this. http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/2079630303.html I agree with everything Loren cited, plus: Wiggly back end in high-speed corners: needs suspension rebuilt (big $$ if you have it done, hours of lying on your back swearing if you do it yourself) A/C not really cold (hard to test in the winter): might need new evaporator (ditto) Oil all over front of engine: needs new timing cover seals Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Daimler AG: immediate ban on sales of original partstonon-authorized dealers
I can for the non remote cars. I can't get the remote keys any longer. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Daimler AG: immediate ban on sales of original partstonon-authorized dealers Rusty, are you saying you can't get lock cylinders and keys for us from your dealer contact any more? Wilton - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 9:35 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Daimler AG: immediate ban on sales of original parts tonon-authorized dealers I called my contacts and they have heard nothing of the sort. They have not been able to sell TRP (theft related parts)items for some time but that is all. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 3:09 AM Subject: [MBZ] Daimler AG: immediate ban on sales of original parts to non-authorized dealers Yesterday I received the following notification from DB Depot in Germany (I've made a couple of minor corrections to their translation from German). I wonder if the new policy affects our friendly retailers here in the United States. Rusty, any comment? I notice that things are pepping up over at www.mbwholesaleparts.com, which probably has something to do with all of this... 2010-12-03 Mid-November, Daimler AG imposed an immediate ban of sales for original parts to non-authorized dealers, under threat of penalty in case of violation on the part of the official Mercedes dealers, to the point of withdrawal of the official dealer authorization. In our case this meant the compulsory and abrupt ending of a trustful business relationship with the local Mercedes dealer that had lasted for nearly two decades. In view of the sharpness and haste with which this sanction was set upon the world, gives an idea of the pressure under which the Daimler AG is acting here. Unfortunate and questionable it is however, that no official information is given to enlighten the background - this lets us only assume, that it might all have to do with the continuous issues between the Daimler AG and the US stock exchange supervision SEC. Having said all this, you might finally want to know, how all this might affect you? Well, actually there won't be serious changes to our product range: we will still be able to offer OEM quality products such as rubber seals, engine-, axle- and suspension parts at very competitive prices. The one thing that will change, is that there will temporarily be no more complementary smaller bits like clips, screws or other parts, that are exclusively supplied by Mercedes. We will use the now free capacity to expand our product range to other Mercedes models and components not yet listed - so keep expecting the most of us. http://www.dbdepot.de/index.php?nav=1lan=2; ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Daimler AG: immediate ban on sales of original parts to non-authorized dealers
In Germany, this is not restricted to keys etc. It is ANY part: headlights, trim pieces, whatever he gets from MB. Andreas has marked the NLA parts on the dbdepot.de online catalogue. Let's hope this is a temporary stupid thing and not some global scourge devised by one of the idiot marketing MBAs. They have ruined the brand's current products, so maybe now they are bored and are moving on to ruining our ability to preserve the very past that they've been coasting on for twenty years. D. Peter Frederick wrote: More to the point, it is no longer possible for my Indy to get lock cylinders or keys. One must go to the dealer with valid ID and registration, and the dealer MUST keep a photocopy of the paperwork for the purchase of a lock cylinder or key and ID/drivers license/registration on file forever. This is related to the problem of people buying keys to steal cars. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What big-ticket items would I need to be wary of for this?
Back to the rear suspension; look at the body at the places where the sub-frame bushings seat. If you see cracks, that is pretty typical. Again, big money to fix, but my wagon has had them for years and no ill effect that I can discern. Can be used as negotiation point. Later years have improved strength in the same area. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 11:09 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What big-ticket items would I need to be wary of for this? On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 7:00 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Thinking of going to look at this. http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/2079630303.html I agree with everything Loren cited, plus: Wiggly back end in high-speed corners: needs suspension rebuilt (big $$ if you have it done, hours of lying on your back swearing if you do it yourself) A/C not really cold (hard to test in the winter): might need new evaporator (ditto) Oil all over front of engine: needs new timing cover seals Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fw: The W123 of vacuum cleaners
Google central vacuum systems. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 11:03 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners Yes, many. Usually, very easily; 'last one I retrofitted was the 3500 SF 105-year Georgian colonial revival (basement and crawlspace, 2 story, walk-up attic) house I've lived in for 22 years. I've often been able to find a chase big enough or, at times, the back corner of a closet. 2 thin-wall plastic piping; 10' lengths + all fittings, couplings, etc. Nutone is one brand I remember right now. 'Several other brands, too. Check building supply, Lowes, etc. 'Don't think my main supplier, Pullman, of 30 years ago does domestic vacs any more; they build lots of commercial, industrial vac equip. Is crawlspace near the access door tall enough for power unit, or is attic easily accessible enough for power unit? Power unit could also go in garage or utility closet. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners Anyone ever retro-fit a house with central vacuum? My house is two story, has crawl space easily accessible and attic as well. I've fished various wires down the walls from above - what size piping is required for central vac? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:39 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners I've been using central vacs for 42 years; 'even designed and installed systems in IBM, ATT and DuPont labs at Research Triangle Park, Raleigh, etc., while I was off active duty from USAF and playing boy-student '68-'71. Power unit for the system I've been using here for 22 years is one I made using an old Sears shop vac tank with a Lamb motor/fan assembly left over from one of the RTP jobs after I converted the RTP system to operate VERY well and nearly maintenance-free by shooting compressed air through a venturi. Wilton - Original Message - From: LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners Central vacs are definitely the way to go. While the initial upfront cost is high, the convenience and efficiency of a central vac system blows (sucks?) away any portable vac. Not to mention not having to empty it out buy maybe once or twice a year... We have built a couple of homes with central vacs, and I would do it again without hesitation. Dan --- On Sat, 12/4/10, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, December 4, 2010, 10:06 AM Central vac beats them all, we've got a cheap one and it'll put a drunk sorority girl to shame... Get too close to one of those plastic grocery bags and *sluurrpp* its gone! I also like that we only need to empty the thing once a year, no bags either... -Curt Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2010 09:06:38 -0500 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners Message-ID: 1291471598.9250.1408627...@webmail.messagingengine.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii We have an Oreck. It's a good vacuum, better than the Royal it replaced, but I don't think they really live up to the legend. Open one up to change the belt---it's all plastic and the motor doesn't look like much. Hotels use them because they are light and they vacuum every day---they never have to pick up a lot of deep dirt. For pure suction, I think our Kenmore canister has the Oreck beat by a fair margin. It's not as easy to use or nearly as light, though. Allan On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 18:00 -0800, Kevin Kraly kr...@comcast.net wrote: They've been making Orecks with the same basic design for 47 years, man that's a long time! The new one has a LED light on the front, hepa outer bag and hepa filter bags as well. We'll see how it stacks up to the Dyson DC14 and the old Kirby Heritage II Legend. We have plenty of a challenge for any vacuum with two low shedding Labradoodle guide dogs, a high shedding retired black Lab, a Lhasa Apso, a Maltese and a few cats. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___
Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners
Thanks Wilton - somehow I knew that the originator of the $2 oil sucker would have BTDT... -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 11:04 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners Yes, many. Usually, very easily; 'last one I retrofitted was the 3500 SF 105-year Georgian colonial revival (basement and crawlspace, 2 story, walk-up attic) house I've lived in for 22 years. I've often been able to find a chase big enough or, at times, the back corner of a closet. 2 thin-wall plastic piping; 10' lengths + all fittings, couplings, etc. Nutone is one brand I remember right now. 'Several other brands, too. Check building supply, Lowes, etc. 'Don't think my main supplier, Pullman, of 30 years ago does domestic vacs any more; they build lots of commercial, industrial vac equip. Is crawlspace near the access door tall enough for power unit, or is attic easily accessible enough for power unit? Power unit could also go in garage or utility closet. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners Anyone ever retro-fit a house with central vacuum? My house is two story, has crawl space easily accessible and attic as well. I've fished various wires down the walls from above - what size piping is required for central vac? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:39 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners I've been using central vacs for 42 years; 'even designed and installed systems in IBM, ATT and DuPont labs at Research Triangle Park, Raleigh, etc., while I was off active duty from USAF and playing boy-student '68-'71. Power unit for the system I've been using here for 22 years is one I made using an old Sears shop vac tank with a Lamb motor/fan assembly left over from one of the RTP jobs after I converted the RTP system to operate VERY well and nearly maintenance-free by shooting compressed air through a venturi. Wilton - Original Message - From: LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners Central vacs are definitely the way to go. While the initial upfront cost is high, the convenience and efficiency of a central vac system blows (sucks?) away any portable vac. Not to mention not having to empty it out buy maybe once or twice a year... We have built a couple of homes with central vacs, and I would do it again without hesitation. Dan --- On Sat, 12/4/10, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, December 4, 2010, 10:06 AM Central vac beats them all, we've got a cheap one and it'll put a drunk sorority girl to shame... Get too close to one of those plastic grocery bags and *sluurrpp* its gone! I also like that we only need to empty the thing once a year, no bags either... -Curt Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2010 09:06:38 -0500 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners Message-ID: 1291471598.9250.1408627...@webmail.messagingengine.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii We have an Oreck. It's a good vacuum, better than the Royal it replaced, but I don't think they really live up to the legend. Open one up to change the belt---it's all plastic and the motor doesn't look like much. Hotels use them because they are light and they vacuum every day---they never have to pick up a lot of deep dirt. For pure suction, I think our Kenmore canister has the Oreck beat by a fair margin. It's not as easy to use or nearly as light, though. Allan On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 18:00 -0800, Kevin Kraly kr...@comcast.net wrote: They've been making Orecks with the same basic design for 47 years, man that's a long time! The new one has a LED light on the front, hepa outer bag and hepa filter bags as well. We'll see how it stacks up to the Dyson DC14 and the old Kirby Heritage II Legend. We have plenty of a challenge for any vacuum with two low shedding Labradoodle guide dogs, a high shedding retired black Lab, a Lhasa Apso, a Maltese and a few cats. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
Re: [MBZ] Daimler AG: immediate ban on sales of original partstonon-authorized dealers
Franchise dealers in USA do considerable business providing parts for non dealer mechanics. I can't imagine that ending here. (and I can't imagine owning a car for which the local dealer is the only source of OE parts, especially when that dealer is allowed to mark those parts 2-3x official list price) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114
Allan Streib wrote: http://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/2093884521.html How does a 40 year old daily driver accumulate 53,000 miles over its lifetime? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners
I did, many years ago. I ran the pipe for the second floor up through a closet on the main floor into a closet on the 2nd floor and then put the outlet through the back wall of the closet into the hallway. Pipe is about 2 inches diameter if my memory is right. Our 2 story house has a duct chase in one spot that permits heating ducts, plumbing etc to go from the basement to the 2nd floor. I used that as the spot for one of the main floor outlets. Our house has a full basement and the vacuum unit is mounted in the basement. Has worked well for about 25 years. Put a new motor in it a year or so ago. Think the old one just needs bearings and brushes so I kept it but SWMBO was very anxious to have it fixed and insisted we swap motors ASAP. It had become intermittent. Sometimes would not start. Ours uses the white pipe. I think if I had to do it over, I would use the clear pipe. I once had to find a blockage and cut it out to fix the problem. Clear pipe would have made it easier to do that. The blockage was a piece of dowel about 2 inches long from kid's toys. Got caught on a T and would not turn the corner. Randy On 07/12/2010 6:39 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Anyone ever retro-fit a house with central vacuum? My house is two story, has crawl space easily accessible and attic as well. I've fished various wires down the walls from above - what size piping is required for central vac? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:39 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners I've been using central vacs for 42 years; 'even designed and installed systems in IBM, ATT and DuPont labs at Research Triangle Park, Raleigh, etc., while I was off active duty from USAF and playing boy-student '68-'71. Power unit for the system I've been using here for 22 years is one I made using an old Sears shop vac tank with a Lamb motor/fan assembly left over from one of the RTP jobs after I converted the RTP system to operate VERY well and nearly maintenance-free by shooting compressed air through a venturi. Wilton - Original Message - From: LWB250lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners Central vacs are definitely the way to go. While the initial upfront cost is high, the convenience and efficiency of a central vac system blows (sucks?) away any portable vac. Not to mention not having to empty it out buy maybe once or twice a year... We have built a couple of homes with central vacs, and I would do it again without hesitation. Dan --- On Sat, 12/4/10, Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners To: Diesel Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, December 4, 2010, 10:06 AM Central vac beats them all, we've got a cheap one and it'll put a drunk sorority girl to shame... Get too close to one of those plastic grocery bags and *sluurrpp* its gone! I also like that we only need to empty the thing once a year, no bags either... -Curt Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2010 09:06:38 -0500 From: Allan Streibstr...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners Message-ID:1291471598.9250.1408627...@webmail.messagingengine.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii We have an Oreck. It's a good vacuum, better than the Royal it replaced, but I don't think they really live up to the legend. Open one up to change the belt---it's all plastic and the motor doesn't look like much. Hotels use them because they are light and they vacuum every day---they never have to pick up a lot of deep dirt. For pure suction, I think our Kenmore canister has the Oreck beat by a fair margin. It's not as easy to use or nearly as light, though. Allan On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 18:00 -0800, Kevin Kralykr...@comcast.net wrote: They've been making Orecks with the same basic design for 47 years, man that's a long time! The new one has a LED light on the front, hepa outer bag and hepa filter bags as well. We'll see how it stacks up to the Dyson DC14 and the old Kirby Heritage II Legend. We have plenty of a challenge for any vacuum with two low shedding Labradoodle guide dogs, a high shedding retired black Lab, a Lhasa Apso, a Maltese and a few cats. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon _ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners
Sounds like my house will be a good candidate - there is a void from first to second floor with more than enough room for a 2 inch plastic pipe. Another home-improvement project to add to the list... -Max (who still has a shower out of commission going on four years - lucky we have two!) -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 12:35 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners I did, many years ago. I ran the pipe for the second floor up through a closet on the main floor into a closet on the 2nd floor and then put the outlet through the back wall of the closet into the hallway. Pipe is about 2 inches diameter if my memory is right. Our 2 story house has a duct chase in one spot that permits heating ducts, plumbing etc to go from the basement to the 2nd floor. I used that as the spot for one of the main floor outlets. Our house has a full basement and the vacuum unit is mounted in the basement. Has worked well for about 25 years. Put a new motor in it a year or so ago. Think the old one just needs bearings and brushes so I kept it but SWMBO was very anxious to have it fixed and insisted we swap motors ASAP. It had become intermittent. Sometimes would not start. Ours uses the white pipe. I think if I had to do it over, I would use the clear pipe. I once had to find a blockage and cut it out to fix the problem. Clear pipe would have made it easier to do that. The blockage was a piece of dowel about 2 inches long from kid's toys. Got caught on a T and would not turn the corner. Randy On 07/12/2010 6:39 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Anyone ever retro-fit a house with central vacuum? My house is two story, has crawl space easily accessible and attic as well. I've fished various wires down the walls from above - what size piping is required for central vac? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:39 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners I've been using central vacs for 42 years; 'even designed and installed systems in IBM, ATT and DuPont labs at Research Triangle Park, Raleigh, etc., while I was off active duty from USAF and playing boy-student '68-'71. Power unit for the system I've been using here for 22 years is one I made using an old Sears shop vac tank with a Lamb motor/fan assembly left over from one of the RTP jobs after I converted the RTP system to operate VERY well and nearly maintenance-free by shooting compressed air through a venturi. Wilton - Original Message - From: LWB250lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners Central vacs are definitely the way to go. While the initial upfront cost is high, the convenience and efficiency of a central vac system blows (sucks?) away any portable vac. Not to mention not having to empty it out buy maybe once or twice a year... We have built a couple of homes with central vacs, and I would do it again without hesitation. Dan --- On Sat, 12/4/10, Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners To: Diesel Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, December 4, 2010, 10:06 AM Central vac beats them all, we've got a cheap one and it'll put a drunk sorority girl to shame... Get too close to one of those plastic grocery bags and *sluurrpp* its gone! I also like that we only need to empty the thing once a year, no bags either... -Curt Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2010 09:06:38 -0500 From: Allan Streibstr...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners Message-ID:1291471598.9250.1408627...@webmail.messagingengine.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii We have an Oreck. It's a good vacuum, better than the Royal it replaced, but I don't think they really live up to the legend. Open one up to change the belt---it's all plastic and the motor doesn't look like much. Hotels use them because they are light and they vacuum every day---they never have to pick up a lot of deep dirt. For pure suction, I think our Kenmore canister has the Oreck beat by a fair margin. It's not as easy to use or nearly as light, though. Allan On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 18:00 -0800, Kevin Kralykr...@comcast.net wrote: They've been making Orecks with the same basic design for 47 years, man that's a long time! The new one has a LED light on the front, hepa outer bag and hepa filter bags as well. We'll see how it stacks up to the Dyson DC14 and the old Kirby Heritage II Legend.
Re: [MBZ] W114
That is Easy! By not showing the 1-9 in the 100k column of the odo. Allan Streib wrote: http://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/2093884521.html How does a 40 year old daily driver accumulate 53,000 miles over its lifetime? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: By not showing the 1-9 in the 100k column of the odo. When did Benz switch to 6-digit odometers? Before the /8? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners
The pipe I got was not sized to match up with regular plumbing pipe. I under bought thinking if I needed a little more, a short hardware store trip would work. NOT. I had to drive 80 miles and I stocked up, 13 years later and I have left over's. I didn't know about the clear, but that would be the way to go. Thanks Harry - Original Message - From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners I did, many years ago. I ran the pipe for the second floor up through a closet on the main floor into a closet on the 2nd floor and then put the outlet through the back wall of the closet into the hallway. Pipe is about 2 inches diameter if my memory is right. Our 2 story house has a duct chase in one spot that permits heating ducts, plumbing etc to go from the basement to the 2nd floor. I used that as the spot for one of the main floor outlets. Our house has a full basement and the vacuum unit is mounted in the basement. Has worked well for about 25 years. Put a new motor in it a year or so ago. Think the old one just needs bearings and brushes so I kept it but SWMBO was very anxious to have it fixed and insisted we swap motors ASAP. It had become intermittent. Sometimes would not start. Ours uses the white pipe. I think if I had to do it over, I would use the clear pipe. I once had to find a blockage and cut it out to fix the problem. Clear pipe would have made it easier to do that. The blockage was a piece of dowel about 2 inches long from kid's toys. Got caught on a T and would not turn the corner. Randy On 07/12/2010 6:39 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Anyone ever retro-fit a house with central vacuum? My house is two story, has crawl space easily accessible and attic as well. I've fished various wires down the walls from above - what size piping is required for central vac? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:39 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners I've been using central vacs for 42 years; 'even designed and installed systems in IBM, ATT and DuPont labs at Research Triangle Park, Raleigh, etc., while I was off active duty from USAF and playing boy-student '68-'71. Power unit for the system I've been using here for 22 years is one I made using an old Sears shop vac tank with a Lamb motor/fan assembly left over from one of the RTP jobs after I converted the RTP system to operate VERY well and nearly maintenance-free by shooting compressed air through a venturi. Wilton - Original Message - From: LWB250lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners Central vacs are definitely the way to go. While the initial upfront cost is high, the convenience and efficiency of a central vac system blows (sucks?) away any portable vac. Not to mention not having to empty it out buy maybe once or twice a year... We have built a couple of homes with central vacs, and I would do it again without hesitation. Dan --- On Sat, 12/4/10, Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners To: Diesel Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, December 4, 2010, 10:06 AM Central vac beats them all, we've got a cheap one and it'll put a drunk sorority girl to shame... Get too close to one of those plastic grocery bags and *sluurrpp* its gone! I also like that we only need to empty the thing once a year, no bags either... -Curt Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2010 09:06:38 -0500 From: Allan Streibstr...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners Message-ID:1291471598.9250.1408627...@webmail.messagingengine.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii We have an Oreck. It's a good vacuum, better than the Royal it replaced, but I don't think they really live up to the legend. Open one up to change the belt---it's all plastic and the motor doesn't look like much. Hotels use them because they are light and they vacuum every day---they never have to pick up a lot of deep dirt. For pure suction, I think our Kenmore canister has the Oreck beat by a fair margin. It's not as easy to use or nearly as light, though. Allan On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 18:00 -0800, Kevin Kralykr...@comcast.net wrote: They've been making Orecks with the same basic design for 47 years, man that's a long time! The new one has a LED light on the front, hepa outer bag and hepa filter bags as well. We'll see how it stacks up to the Dyson DC14 and the old Kirby Heritage II Legend. We have plenty of a challenge for any vacuum with two low shedding
Re: [MBZ] What big-ticket items would I need to be wary of for this?
Hey, it's got ice cold air conditioning! What about leather interior and 40MPG? Kevin on vacation in Riverside, CA ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114
My 76 300D only has 5 digits. It showed 0990 miles on it when I got it. So, is that once around or twice or ??? Randy On 07/12/2010 12:42 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Dieselhead126die...@gmail.com wrote: By not showing the 1-9 in the 100k column of the odo. When did Benz switch to 6-digit odometers? Before the /8? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners
I can buy pipe and fittings for central vacs at Home Depot. It is not plumbing pipe but it is not unique either. I think all central vac pipe is about the same. Randy On 07/12/2010 12:46 PM, Harry Watkins wrote: The pipe I got was not sized to match up with regular plumbing pipe. I under bought thinking if I needed a little more, a short hardware store trip would work. NOT. I had to drive 80 miles and I stocked up, 13 years later and I have left over's. I didn't know about the clear, but that would be the way to go. Thanks Harry - Original Message - From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners I did, many years ago. I ran the pipe for the second floor up through a closet on the main floor into a closet on the 2nd floor and then put the outlet through the back wall of the closet into the hallway. Pipe is about 2 inches diameter if my memory is right. Our 2 story house has a duct chase in one spot that permits heating ducts, plumbing etc to go from the basement to the 2nd floor. I used that as the spot for one of the main floor outlets. Our house has a full basement and the vacuum unit is mounted in the basement. Has worked well for about 25 years. Put a new motor in it a year or so ago. Think the old one just needs bearings and brushes so I kept it but SWMBO was very anxious to have it fixed and insisted we swap motors ASAP. It had become intermittent. Sometimes would not start. Ours uses the white pipe. I think if I had to do it over, I would use the clear pipe. I once had to find a blockage and cut it out to fix the problem. Clear pipe would have made it easier to do that. The blockage was a piece of dowel about 2 inches long from kid's toys. Got caught on a T and would not turn the corner. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners
I've seen only grey PVC for vac systems; doesn't fit plumbing PVC nor electric conduit. Wilton - Original Message - From: Harry Watkins harry...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners The pipe I got was not sized to match up with regular plumbing pipe. I under bought thinking if I needed a little more, a short hardware store trip would work. NOT. I had to drive 80 miles and I stocked up, 13 years later and I have left over's. I didn't know about the clear, but that would be the way to go. Thanks Harry - Original Message - From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners I did, many years ago. I ran the pipe for the second floor up through a closet on the main floor into a closet on the 2nd floor and then put the outlet through the back wall of the closet into the hallway. Pipe is about 2 inches diameter if my memory is right. Our 2 story house has a duct chase in one spot that permits heating ducts, plumbing etc to go from the basement to the 2nd floor. I used that as the spot for one of the main floor outlets. Our house has a full basement and the vacuum unit is mounted in the basement. Has worked well for about 25 years. Put a new motor in it a year or so ago. Think the old one just needs bearings and brushes so I kept it but SWMBO was very anxious to have it fixed and insisted we swap motors ASAP. It had become intermittent. Sometimes would not start. Ours uses the white pipe. I think if I had to do it over, I would use the clear pipe. I once had to find a blockage and cut it out to fix the problem. Clear pipe would have made it easier to do that. The blockage was a piece of dowel about 2 inches long from kid's toys. Got caught on a T and would not turn the corner. Randy On 07/12/2010 6:39 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Anyone ever retro-fit a house with central vacuum? My house is two story, has crawl space easily accessible and attic as well. I've fished various wires down the walls from above - what size piping is required for central vac? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:39 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners I've been using central vacs for 42 years; 'even designed and installed systems in IBM, ATT and DuPont labs at Research Triangle Park, Raleigh, etc., while I was off active duty from USAF and playing boy-student '68-'71. Power unit for the system I've been using here for 22 years is one I made using an old Sears shop vac tank with a Lamb motor/fan assembly left over from one of the RTP jobs after I converted the RTP system to operate VERY well and nearly maintenance-free by shooting compressed air through a venturi. Wilton - Original Message - From: LWB250lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners Central vacs are definitely the way to go. While the initial upfront cost is high, the convenience and efficiency of a central vac system blows (sucks?) away any portable vac. Not to mention not having to empty it out buy maybe once or twice a year... We have built a couple of homes with central vacs, and I would do it again without hesitation. Dan --- On Sat, 12/4/10, Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners To: Diesel Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, December 4, 2010, 10:06 AM Central vac beats them all, we've got a cheap one and it'll put a drunk sorority girl to shame... Get too close to one of those plastic grocery bags and *sluurrpp* its gone! I also like that we only need to empty the thing once a year, no bags either... -Curt Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2010 09:06:38 -0500 From: Allan Streibstr...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners Message-ID:1291471598.9250.1408627...@webmail.messagingengine.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii We have an Oreck. It's a good vacuum, better than the Royal it replaced, but I don't think they really live up to the legend. Open one up to change the belt---it's all plastic and the motor doesn't look like much. Hotels use them because they are light and they vacuum every day---they never have to pick up a lot of deep dirt. For pure suction, I think our Kenmore canister has the Oreck beat by a fair margin. It's not as easy to use or nearly as light, though. Allan On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 18:00 -0800, Kevin Kralykr...@comcast.net wrote: They've been making
Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners
I think it's unique to vac systems. Wilton - Original Message - From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners I can buy pipe and fittings for central vacs at Home Depot. It is not plumbing pipe but it is not unique either. I think all central vac pipe is about the same. Randy On 07/12/2010 12:46 PM, Harry Watkins wrote: The pipe I got was not sized to match up with regular plumbing pipe. I under bought thinking if I needed a little more, a short hardware store trip would work. NOT. I had to drive 80 miles and I stocked up, 13 years later and I have left over's. I didn't know about the clear, but that would be the way to go. Thanks Harry - Original Message - From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners I did, many years ago. I ran the pipe for the second floor up through a closet on the main floor into a closet on the 2nd floor and then put the outlet through the back wall of the closet into the hallway. Pipe is about 2 inches diameter if my memory is right. Our 2 story house has a duct chase in one spot that permits heating ducts, plumbing etc to go from the basement to the 2nd floor. I used that as the spot for one of the main floor outlets. Our house has a full basement and the vacuum unit is mounted in the basement. Has worked well for about 25 years. Put a new motor in it a year or so ago. Think the old one just needs bearings and brushes so I kept it but SWMBO was very anxious to have it fixed and insisted we swap motors ASAP. It had become intermittent. Sometimes would not start. Ours uses the white pipe. I think if I had to do it over, I would use the clear pipe. I once had to find a blockage and cut it out to fix the problem. Clear pipe would have made it easier to do that. The blockage was a piece of dowel about 2 inches long from kid's toys. Got caught on a T and would not turn the corner. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners
By not unique I just meant that all central vac pipe seems to be the same. I don't think the various brands of central vac machines use different pipe. Randy On 07/12/2010 2:02 PM, WILTON wrote: I think it's unique to vac systems. Wilton - Original Message - From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners I can buy pipe and fittings for central vacs at Home Depot. It is not plumbing pipe but it is not unique either. I think all central vac pipe is about the same. Randy On 07/12/2010 12:46 PM, Harry Watkins wrote: The pipe I got was not sized to match up with regular plumbing pipe. I under bought thinking if I needed a little more, a short hardware store trip would work. NOT. I had to drive 80 miles and I stocked up, 13 years later and I have left over's. I didn't know about the clear, but that would be the way to go. Thanks Harry - Original Message - From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners I did, many years ago. I ran the pipe for the second floor up through a closet on the main floor into a closet on the 2nd floor and then put the outlet through the back wall of the closet into the hallway. Pipe is about 2 inches diameter if my memory is right. Our 2 story house has a duct chase in one spot that permits heating ducts, plumbing etc to go from the basement to the 2nd floor. I used that as the spot for one of the main floor outlets. Our house has a full basement and the vacuum unit is mounted in the basement. Has worked well for about 25 years. Put a new motor in it a year or so ago. Think the old one just needs bearings and brushes so I kept it but SWMBO was very anxious to have it fixed and insisted we swap motors ASAP. It had become intermittent. Sometimes would not start. Ours uses the white pipe. I think if I had to do it over, I would use the clear pipe. I once had to find a blockage and cut it out to fix the problem. Clear pipe would have made it easier to do that. The blockage was a piece of dowel about 2 inches long from kid's toys. Got caught on a T and would not turn the corner. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114
123 was the first in the usa to show 6 digits of miles that I am aware of, but I never had a 116. probably the 116 was first, because 107 and 114/5 and 108 all are 5 digit miles. On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: By not showing the 1-9 in the 100k column of the odo. When did Benz switch to 6-digit odometers? Before the /8? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners
If you're building your own, you could use pvc plumbing pipe I'd think I guess the wall fittings might not mate up though. On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 15:00 -0500, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I've seen only grey PVC for vac systems; doesn't fit plumbing PVC nor electric conduit. Wilton - Original Message - From: Harry Watkins harry...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners The pipe I got was not sized to match up with regular plumbing pipe. I under bought thinking if I needed a little more, a short hardware store trip would work. NOT. I had to drive 80 miles and I stocked up, 13 years later and I have left over's. I didn't know about the clear, but that would be the way to go. Thanks Harry - Original Message - From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners I did, many years ago. I ran the pipe for the second floor up through a closet on the main floor into a closet on the 2nd floor and then put the outlet through the back wall of the closet into the hallway. Pipe is about 2 inches diameter if my memory is right. Our 2 story house has a duct chase in one spot that permits heating ducts, plumbing etc to go from the basement to the 2nd floor. I used that as the spot for one of the main floor outlets. Our house has a full basement and the vacuum unit is mounted in the basement. Has worked well for about 25 years. Put a new motor in it a year or so ago. Think the old one just needs bearings and brushes so I kept it but SWMBO was very anxious to have it fixed and insisted we swap motors ASAP. It had become intermittent. Sometimes would not start. Ours uses the white pipe. I think if I had to do it over, I would use the clear pipe. I once had to find a blockage and cut it out to fix the problem. Clear pipe would have made it easier to do that. The blockage was a piece of dowel about 2 inches long from kid's toys. Got caught on a T and would not turn the corner. Randy On 07/12/2010 6:39 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Anyone ever retro-fit a house with central vacuum? My house is two story, has crawl space easily accessible and attic as well. I've fished various wires down the walls from above - what size piping is required for central vac? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:39 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners I've been using central vacs for 42 years; 'even designed and installed systems in IBM, ATT and DuPont labs at Research Triangle Park, Raleigh, etc., while I was off active duty from USAF and playing boy-student '68-'71. Power unit for the system I've been using here for 22 years is one I made using an old Sears shop vac tank with a Lamb motor/fan assembly left over from one of the RTP jobs after I converted the RTP system to operate VERY well and nearly maintenance-free by shooting compressed air through a venturi. Wilton - Original Message - From: LWB250lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners Central vacs are definitely the way to go. While the initial upfront cost is high, the convenience and efficiency of a central vac system blows (sucks?) away any portable vac. Not to mention not having to empty it out buy maybe once or twice a year... We have built a couple of homes with central vacs, and I would do it again without hesitation. Dan --- On Sat, 12/4/10, Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners To: Diesel Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, December 4, 2010, 10:06 AM Central vac beats them all, we've got a cheap one and it'll put a drunk sorority girl to shame... Get too close to one of those plastic grocery bags and *sluurrpp* its gone! I also like that we only need to empty the thing once a year, no bags either... -Curt Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2010 09:06:38 -0500 From: Allan Streibstr...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners Message-ID:1291471598.9250.1408627...@webmail.messagingengine.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii We have an Oreck. It's a good vacuum, better than the Royal it replaced, but I don't think they really live up to the legend. Open one up to change the
Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners
That's right; pipe, fittings, etc., for all brands of vac systems are the same and can be intermingled amongst the brands, but vac system pipe, etc., can't intermingled with plumbing pipe and electrical conduit (except by innovative and imaginative modifications, duct tape, etc). I can use vac pipe and fittings that I bought 40 years ago (yes, I have some) with pipe, fittings, power units, etc., on sale right now. Wilton - Original Message - From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners By not unique I just meant that all central vac pipe seems to be the same. I don't think the various brands of central vac machines use different pipe. Randy On 07/12/2010 2:02 PM, WILTON wrote: I think it's unique to vac systems. Wilton - Original Message - From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners I can buy pipe and fittings for central vacs at Home Depot. It is not plumbing pipe but it is not unique either. I think all central vac pipe is about the same. Randy On 07/12/2010 12:46 PM, Harry Watkins wrote: The pipe I got was not sized to match up with regular plumbing pipe. I under bought thinking if I needed a little more, a short hardware store trip would work. NOT. I had to drive 80 miles and I stocked up, 13 years later and I have left over's. I didn't know about the clear, but that would be the way to go. Thanks Harry - Original Message - From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners I did, many years ago. I ran the pipe for the second floor up through a closet on the main floor into a closet on the 2nd floor and then put the outlet through the back wall of the closet into the hallway. Pipe is about 2 inches diameter if my memory is right. Our 2 story house has a duct chase in one spot that permits heating ducts, plumbing etc to go from the basement to the 2nd floor. I used that as the spot for one of the main floor outlets. Our house has a full basement and the vacuum unit is mounted in the basement. Has worked well for about 25 years. Put a new motor in it a year or so ago. Think the old one just needs bearings and brushes so I kept it but SWMBO was very anxious to have it fixed and insisted we swap motors ASAP. It had become intermittent. Sometimes would not start. Ours uses the white pipe. I think if I had to do it over, I would use the clear pipe. I once had to find a blockage and cut it out to fix the problem. Clear pipe would have made it easier to do that. The blockage was a piece of dowel about 2 inches long from kid's toys. Got caught on a T and would not turn the corner. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners
You COULD; plumbing pipe is a LOT heavier; wall fittings will NOT mate properly without some innovative mods. Wilton - Original Message - From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners If you're building your own, you could use pvc plumbing pipe I'd think I guess the wall fittings might not mate up though. On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 15:00 -0500, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I've seen only grey PVC for vac systems; doesn't fit plumbing PVC nor electric conduit. Wilton - Original Message - From: Harry Watkins harry...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners The pipe I got was not sized to match up with regular plumbing pipe. I under bought thinking if I needed a little more, a short hardware store trip would work. NOT. I had to drive 80 miles and I stocked up, 13 years later and I have left over's. I didn't know about the clear, but that would be the way to go. Thanks Harry - Original Message - From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners I did, many years ago. I ran the pipe for the second floor up through a closet on the main floor into a closet on the 2nd floor and then put the outlet through the back wall of the closet into the hallway. Pipe is about 2 inches diameter if my memory is right. Our 2 story house has a duct chase in one spot that permits heating ducts, plumbing etc to go from the basement to the 2nd floor. I used that as the spot for one of the main floor outlets. Our house has a full basement and the vacuum unit is mounted in the basement. Has worked well for about 25 years. Put a new motor in it a year or so ago. Think the old one just needs bearings and brushes so I kept it but SWMBO was very anxious to have it fixed and insisted we swap motors ASAP. It had become intermittent. Sometimes would not start. Ours uses the white pipe. I think if I had to do it over, I would use the clear pipe. I once had to find a blockage and cut it out to fix the problem. Clear pipe would have made it easier to do that. The blockage was a piece of dowel about 2 inches long from kid's toys. Got caught on a T and would not turn the corner. Randy On 07/12/2010 6:39 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Anyone ever retro-fit a house with central vacuum? My house is two story, has crawl space easily accessible and attic as well. I've fished various wires down the walls from above - what size piping is required for central vac? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:39 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners I've been using central vacs for 42 years; 'even designed and installed systems in IBM, ATT and DuPont labs at Research Triangle Park, Raleigh, etc., while I was off active duty from USAF and playing boy-student '68-'71. Power unit for the system I've been using here for 22 years is one I made using an old Sears shop vac tank with a Lamb motor/fan assembly left over from one of the RTP jobs after I converted the RTP system to operate VERY well and nearly maintenance-free by shooting compressed air through a venturi. Wilton - Original Message - From: LWB250lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners Central vacs are definitely the way to go. While the initial upfront cost is high, the convenience and efficiency of a central vac system blows (sucks?) away any portable vac. Not to mention not having to empty it out buy maybe once or twice a year... We have built a couple of homes with central vacs, and I would do it again without hesitation. Dan --- On Sat, 12/4/10, Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners To: Diesel Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, December 4, 2010, 10:06 AM Central vac beats them all, we've got a cheap one and it'll put a drunk sorority girl to shame... Get too close to one of those plastic grocery bags and *sluurrpp* its gone! I also like that we only need to empty the thing once a year, no bags either... -Curt Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2010 09:06:38 -0500 From: Allan Streibstr...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners
Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners
You have to be careful with the PVC,(I'm not sure about other types of plastic) because it can build up a pretty (like REALLY) high static charge when stuff is flowing through it. Some people have used it for pipe in a central shop vac system, and have found that running a bare wire (like 14g electrical) along it (outside) and to a ground, taped down with the aluminum tape, helps keep the charge down, which could cause sparks and mayhem in a dusty environment. I even notice that in my roll-around shop vac when using a couple of hoses joined together, in the winter when it's dry you can get a nice ZAP off the thing. I don't know if that house vac stuff considers that aspect or not. --R On 12/7/2010 4:47 PM, WILTON wrote: You COULD; plumbing pipe is a LOT heavier; wall fittings will NOT mate properly without some innovative mods. Wilton - Original Message - From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners If you're building your own, you could use pvc plumbing pipe I'd think I guess the wall fittings might not mate up though. On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 15:00 -0500, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I've seen only grey PVC for vac systems; doesn't fit plumbing PVC nor electric conduit. Wilton - Original Message - From: Harry Watkins harry...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners The pipe I got was not sized to match up with regular plumbing pipe. I under bought thinking if I needed a little more, a short hardware store trip would work. NOT. I had to drive 80 miles and I stocked up, 13 years later and I have left over's. I didn't know about the clear, but that would be the way to go. Thanks Harry - Original Message - From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners I did, many years ago. I ran the pipe for the second floor up through a closet on the main floor into a closet on the 2nd floor and then put the outlet through the back wall of the closet into the hallway. Pipe is about 2 inches diameter if my memory is right. Our 2 story house has a duct chase in one spot that permits heating ducts, plumbing etc to go from the basement to the 2nd floor. I used that as the spot for one of the main floor outlets. Our house has a full basement and the vacuum unit is mounted in the basement. Has worked well for about 25 years. Put a new motor in it a year or so ago. Think the old one just needs bearings and brushes so I kept it but SWMBO was very anxious to have it fixed and insisted we swap motors ASAP. It had become intermittent. Sometimes would not start. Ours uses the white pipe. I think if I had to do it over, I would use the clear pipe. I once had to find a blockage and cut it out to fix the problem. Clear pipe would have made it easier to do that. The blockage was a piece of dowel about 2 inches long from kid's toys. Got caught on a T and would not turn the corner. Randy On 07/12/2010 6:39 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Anyone ever retro-fit a house with central vacuum? My house is two story, has crawl space easily accessible and attic as well. I've fished various wires down the walls from above - what size piping is required for central vac? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:39 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners I've been using central vacs for 42 years; 'even designed and installed systems in IBM, ATT and DuPont labs at Research Triangle Park, Raleigh, etc., while I was off active duty from USAF and playing boy-student '68-'71. Power unit for the system I've been using here for 22 years is one I made using an old Sears shop vac tank with a Lamb motor/fan assembly left over from one of the RTP jobs after I converted the RTP system to operate VERY well and nearly maintenance-free by shooting compressed air through a venturi. Wilton - Original Message - From: LWB250lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners Central vacs are definitely the way to go. While the initial upfront cost is high, the convenience and efficiency of a central vac system blows (sucks?) away any portable vac. Not to mention not having to empty it out buy maybe once or twice a year... We have built a couple of homes with central vacs, and I would do it again
Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners
It does not appear to be an issue. One normally runs a wire along with the pipe anyway as it is part of the switch on the outlet setup that automatically turns on the vacuum unit when one inserts the hose end into the outlet. If there was a need for grounding, one would think they would provide a bare wire to run along with the low voltage switch wiring for the unit. We installed ours in about 1983 and apart from having one obstruction years back when the kids were little and playing with toys, and one change of motor in the unit last year, it has been fairly flawless. We did have to replace the carpet sweeper unit once too. Ours is the type powered by the airflow and not an electric unit with a cord. We added on to the house in 1987 and I tapped into the existing system to provide a couple more outlets and that was fairly easy too. Randy On 07/12/2010 4:52 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: You have to be careful with the PVC,(I'm not sure about other types of plastic) because it can build up a pretty (like REALLY) high static charge when stuff is flowing through it. Some people have used it for pipe in a central shop vac system, and have found that running a bare wire (like 14g electrical) along it (outside) and to a ground, taped down with the aluminum tape, helps keep the charge down, which could cause sparks and mayhem in a dusty environment. I even notice that in my roll-around shop vac when using a couple of hoses joined together, in the winter when it's dry you can get a nice ZAP off the thing. I don't know if that house vac stuff considers that aspect or not. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners
Discharging static electricity reminds me: A favorite trick in the B-52 alert facility at Kincheloe AFB, MI, (near Sault Ste. Marie in the UP - very cold and dry winters) was to quietly shuffle feet on carpet while easing up behind somebody in the hall and ease your finger toward his ear lobe until it was close enough for a HEALTHY spark to jump the gap. ;)) Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners You have to be careful with the PVC,(I'm not sure about other types of plastic) because it can build up a pretty (like REALLY) high static charge when stuff is flowing through it. Some people have used it for pipe in a central shop vac system, and have found that running a bare wire (like 14g electrical) along it (outside) and to a ground, taped down with the aluminum tape, helps keep the charge down, which could cause sparks and mayhem in a dusty environment. I even notice that in my roll-around shop vac when using a couple of hoses joined together, in the winter when it's dry you can get a nice ZAP off the thing. I don't know if that house vac stuff considers that aspect or not. --R On 12/7/2010 4:47 PM, WILTON wrote: You COULD; plumbing pipe is a LOT heavier; wall fittings will NOT mate properly without some innovative mods. Wilton - Original Message - From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners If you're building your own, you could use pvc plumbing pipe I'd think I guess the wall fittings might not mate up though. On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 15:00 -0500, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I've seen only grey PVC for vac systems; doesn't fit plumbing PVC nor electric conduit. Wilton - Original Message - From: Harry Watkins harry...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners The pipe I got was not sized to match up with regular plumbing pipe. I under bought thinking if I needed a little more, a short hardware store trip would work. NOT. I had to drive 80 miles and I stocked up, 13 years later and I have left over's. I didn't know about the clear, but that would be the way to go. Thanks Harry - Original Message - From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners I did, many years ago. I ran the pipe for the second floor up through a closet on the main floor into a closet on the 2nd floor and then put the outlet through the back wall of the closet into the hallway. Pipe is about 2 inches diameter if my memory is right. Our 2 story house has a duct chase in one spot that permits heating ducts, plumbing etc to go from the basement to the 2nd floor. I used that as the spot for one of the main floor outlets. Our house has a full basement and the vacuum unit is mounted in the basement. Has worked well for about 25 years. Put a new motor in it a year or so ago. Think the old one just needs bearings and brushes so I kept it but SWMBO was very anxious to have it fixed and insisted we swap motors ASAP. It had become intermittent. Sometimes would not start. Ours uses the white pipe. I think if I had to do it over, I would use the clear pipe. I once had to find a blockage and cut it out to fix the problem. Clear pipe would have made it easier to do that. The blockage was a piece of dowel about 2 inches long from kid's toys. Got caught on a T and would not turn the corner. Randy On 07/12/2010 6:39 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Anyone ever retro-fit a house with central vacuum? My house is two story, has crawl space easily accessible and attic as well. I've fished various wires down the walls from above - what size piping is required for central vac? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:39 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners I've been using central vacs for 42 years; 'even designed and installed systems in IBM, ATT and DuPont labs at Research Triangle Park, Raleigh, etc., while I was off active duty from USAF and playing boy-student '68-'71. Power unit for the system I've been using here for 22 years is one I made using an old Sears shop vac tank with a Lamb motor/fan assembly left over from one of the RTP jobs after I converted the RTP system to operate VERY well and nearly maintenance-free by shooting compressed air
Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners
Vac pipe, fittings, etc., available at vacdepot.com and many others. 'Even noticed an adapter coupling to sched 40 pipe. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners Anyone ever retro-fit a house with central vacuum? My house is two story, has crawl space easily accessible and attic as well. I've fished various wires down the walls from above - what size piping is required for central vac? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:39 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners I've been using central vacs for 42 years; 'even designed and installed systems in IBM, ATT and DuPont labs at Research Triangle Park, Raleigh, etc., while I was off active duty from USAF and playing boy-student '68-'71. Power unit for the system I've been using here for 22 years is one I made using an old Sears shop vac tank with a Lamb motor/fan assembly left over from one of the RTP jobs after I converted the RTP system to operate VERY well and nearly maintenance-free by shooting compressed air through a venturi. Wilton - Original Message - From: LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners Central vacs are definitely the way to go. While the initial upfront cost is high, the convenience and efficiency of a central vac system blows (sucks?) away any portable vac. Not to mention not having to empty it out buy maybe once or twice a year... We have built a couple of homes with central vacs, and I would do it again without hesitation. Dan --- On Sat, 12/4/10, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, December 4, 2010, 10:06 AM Central vac beats them all, we've got a cheap one and it'll put a drunk sorority girl to shame... Get too close to one of those plastic grocery bags and *sluurrpp* its gone! I also like that we only need to empty the thing once a year, no bags either... -Curt Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2010 09:06:38 -0500 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners Message-ID: 1291471598.9250.1408627...@webmail.messagingengine.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii We have an Oreck. It's a good vacuum, better than the Royal it replaced, but I don't think they really live up to the legend. Open one up to change the belt---it's all plastic and the motor doesn't look like much. Hotels use them because they are light and they vacuum every day---they never have to pick up a lot of deep dirt. For pure suction, I think our Kenmore canister has the Oreck beat by a fair margin. It's not as easy to use or nearly as light, though. Allan On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 18:00 -0800, Kevin Kraly kr...@comcast.net wrote: They've been making Orecks with the same basic design for 47 years, man that's a long time! The new one has a LED light on the front, hepa outer bag and hepa filter bags as well. We'll see how it stacks up to the Dyson DC14 and the old Kirby Heritage II Legend. We have plenty of a challenge for any vacuum with two low shedding Labradoodle guide dogs, a high shedding retired black Lab, a Lhasa Apso, a Maltese and a few cats. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives
Re: [MBZ] Daimler AG: immediate ban on sales of original partstonon-authorized dealers
You mean for like a 140 and newer? On 12/7/2010 10:11 AM, Rusty Cullens wrote: I can for the non remote cars. I can't get the remote keys any longer. Rusty Cullens -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114
107/116 were the first On 12/7/2010 3:15 PM, Dieselhead wrote: 123 was the first in the usa to show 6 digits of miles that I am aware of, but I never had a 116. probably the 116 was first, because 107 and 114/5 and 108 all are 5 digit miles. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] The E420 Lives!
Well, I finally got it back on the road. Having replaced the power steering pump and properly bled and filled the system, I needed to fix the gasoline leak. It turns out on the E420 (and maybe other W124s as well), there is a plastic cover that bolts on the underside of the body underneath the fuel pumps and filter. I initially thought the problem was just due to a loose banjo fitting in the lower fuel pump, but after I cleaned that up, I found that the rubber hose (with steel fittings on both ends) from the fuel filter to the hard line on the body was cracked badly and leaking profusely. I got the replacement hose and some copper sealing rings from Q and did the work last Saturday. The pictures attached show the progress. I did not have the correct size of copper sealing rings for the banjo fittings, so I re-used the old ones. There is a slow weeping of gasoline from the lower banjo on the lower fuel pump. During the job, I had unlocked the trunk and all the doors, lifted the trunk lid, locked the trunk and all the doors from the trunk and then disconnected the negative lead to the battery, leaving the trunk lid up. When I was finished with all of the work, I reconnected the negative lead to the battery, opened the drivers door with the key and then tried to start the car. After cycling the key innumerable times to fill the new fuel filter, I tried starting it. No go. I then noticed the headlights and turn signals were blinking in unison. If I turned the key to off and then back to on, the blinking lights started again. After a few minutes, I had an idea! I got out of the car, locked the car with the key in the driver's door lock, waited a few seconds, and then unlocked the car with the driver's door lock. When I got back in, the car started. I presume this is how it's supposed to work. I did notice that the horn was not sounding when the lights were blinking, which, I presume, was due to the car's alarm. I drove the car to church Sunday morning and to work today. It seems to work OK. It does have a lot more power than our '82 240D/3.0! :-) I called Q about the correct sealing rings today and they are on the way. Now I just need to get the code for the radio so I can activate it again. Craig -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fuel.leak.01.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 173654 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101206/7a242bcb/attachment.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fuel.leak.02.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 18 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101206/7a242bcb/attachment-0001.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fuel.leak.03.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 175049 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101206/7a242bcb/attachment-0002.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fuel.leak.04.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 163876 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101206/7a242bcb/attachment-0003.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fuel.leak.05.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 176321 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101206/7a242bcb/attachment-0004.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fuel.leak.06.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 174798 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101206/7a242bcb/attachment-0005.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fuel.leak.07.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 163412 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101206/7a242bcb/attachment-0006.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fuel.leak.08.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 176941 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101206/7a242bcb/attachment-0007.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fuel.leak.09.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 157810 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101206/7a242bcb/attachment-0008.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fuel.leak.10.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 159159 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101206/7a242bcb/attachment-0009.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fuel.leak.11.jpg Type:
[MBZ] The W123 of vacuum cleaners
Just a word (or two) about central vacs. I installed a Sears central vac in a two story colonial back in the 80s . . . don't want to relive this even as a nightmare. My SO at the time had invited a Kirby salesman to the house for a free demo and rug cleaning. Since he had a clear plexiglas substitute intake housing for the Kirby, one could easily see the performance. He had distributed some sand like material on the fairly deep pile rug and I used the newly installed central vac to vacuum this stuff to my satisfaction that I thought I had gotten all of it. Surprise, surprise, the Kirby managed to vacuum up more of the sandy stuff after I had given up with the central vac. Final note: she got the house and I got the central vac which is still operating great. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The E420 Lives!
Is the code card in the owners manual pack? On 12/6/2010 10:10 PM, Craig wrote: Well, I finally got it back on the road. Having replaced the power steering pump and properly bled and filled the system, I needed to fix the gasoline leak. It turns out on the E420 (and maybe other W124s as well), there is a plastic cover that bolts on the underside of the body underneath the fuel pumps and filter. I initially thought the problem was just due to a loose banjo fitting in the lower fuel pump, but after I cleaned that up, I found that the rubber hose (with steel fittings on both ends) from the fuel filter to the hard line on the body was cracked badly and leaking profusely. I got the replacement hose and some copper sealing rings from Q and did the work last Saturday. The pictures attached show the progress. I did not have the correct size of copper sealing rings for the banjo fittings, so I re-used the old ones. There is a slow weeping of gasoline from the lower banjo on the lower fuel pump. During the job, I had unlocked the trunk and all the doors, lifted the trunk lid, locked the trunk and all the doors from the trunk and then disconnected the negative lead to the battery, leaving the trunk lid up. When I was finished with all of the work, I reconnected the negative lead to the battery, opened the drivers door with the key and then tried to start the car. After cycling the key innumerable times to fill the new fuel filter, I tried starting it. No go. I then noticed the headlights and turn signals were blinking in unison. If I turned the key to off and then back to on, the blinking lights started again. After a few minutes, I had an idea! I got out of the car, locked the car with the key in the driver's door lock, waited a few seconds, and then unlocked the car with the driver's door lock. When I got back in, the car started. I presume this is how it's supposed to work. I did notice that the horn was not sounding when the lights were blinking, which, I presume, was due to the car's alarm. I drove the car to church Sunday morning and to work today. It seems to work OK. It does have a lot more power than our '82 240D/3.0! :-) I called Q about the correct sealing rings today and they are on the way. Now I just need to get the code for the radio so I can activate it again. Craig -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fuel.leak.01.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 173654 bytes Desc: not available URL:http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101206/7a242bcb/attachment.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fuel.leak.02.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 18 bytes Desc: not available URL:http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101206/7a242bcb/attachment-0001.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fuel.leak.03.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 175049 bytes Desc: not available URL:http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101206/7a242bcb/attachment-0002.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fuel.leak.04.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 163876 bytes Desc: not available URL:http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101206/7a242bcb/attachment-0003.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fuel.leak.05.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 176321 bytes Desc: not available URL:http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101206/7a242bcb/attachment-0004.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fuel.leak.06.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 174798 bytes Desc: not available URL:http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101206/7a242bcb/attachment-0005.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fuel.leak.07.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 163412 bytes Desc: not available URL:http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101206/7a242bcb/attachment-0006.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fuel.leak.08.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 176941 bytes Desc: not available URL:http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101206/7a242bcb/attachment-0007.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fuel.leak.09.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 157810 bytes Desc: not available URL:http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101206/7a242bcb/attachment-0008.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fuel.leak.10.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 159159 bytes Desc: not available URL:http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101206/7a242bcb/attachment-0009.jpg -- next part -- A
Re: [MBZ] The E420 Lives!
Thanks for all the pictures, good to hang onto for future reference! Ed 300E On 6 December 2010 23:10, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: Well, I finally got it back on the road. Having replaced the power steering pump and properly bled and filled the system, I needed to fix the gasoline leak. It turns out on the E420 (and maybe other W124s as well), there is a plastic cover that bolts on the underside of the body underneath the fuel pumps and filter. I initially thought the problem was just due to a loose banjo fitting in the lower fuel pump, but after I cleaned that up, I found that the rubber hose (with steel fittings on both ends) from the fuel filter to the hard line on the body was cracked badly and leaking profusely. I got the replacement hose and some copper sealing rings from Q and did the work last Saturday. The pictures attached show the progress. I did not have the correct size of copper sealing rings for the banjo fittings, so I re-used the old ones. There is a slow weeping of gasoline from the lower banjo on the lower fuel pump. During the job, I had unlocked the trunk and all the doors, lifted the trunk lid, locked the trunk and all the doors from the trunk and then disconnected the negative lead to the battery, leaving the trunk lid up. When I was finished with all of the work, I reconnected the negative lead to the battery, opened the drivers door with the key and then tried to start the car. After cycling the key innumerable times to fill the new fuel filter, I tried starting it. No go. I then noticed the headlights and turn signals were blinking in unison. If I turned the key to off and then back to on, the blinking lights started again. After a few minutes, I had an idea! I got out of the car, locked the car with the key in the driver's door lock, waited a few seconds, and then unlocked the car with the driver's door lock. When I got back in, the car started. I presume this is how it's supposed to work. I did notice that the horn was not sounding when the lights were blinking, which, I presume, was due to the car's alarm. I drove the car to church Sunday morning and to work today. It seems to work OK. It does have a lot more power than our '82 240D/3.0! :-) I called Q about the correct sealing rings today and they are on the way. Now I just need to get the code for the radio so I can activate it again. Craig -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fuel.leak.01.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 173654 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101206/7a242bcb/attachment.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fuel.leak.02.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 18 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101206/7a242bcb/attachment-0001.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fuel.leak.03.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 175049 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101206/7a242bcb/attachment-0002.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fuel.leak.04.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 163876 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101206/7a242bcb/attachment-0003.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fuel.leak.05.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 176321 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101206/7a242bcb/attachment-0004.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fuel.leak.06.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 174798 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101206/7a242bcb/attachment-0005.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fuel.leak.07.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 163412 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101206/7a242bcb/attachment-0006.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fuel.leak.08.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 176941 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101206/7a242bcb/attachment-0007.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fuel.leak.09.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 157810 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101206/7a242bcb/attachment-0008.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fuel.leak.10.jpg
[MBZ] this is quite an ad
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Re: [MBZ] W114
Didn't early 107s have 5 digit odo? You are right though, the 380SLs have 6 digit. I was thinking of the 74 107 cluster I have. I think it is a 5 digit 107/116 were the first On 12/7/2010 3:15 PM, Dieselhead wrote: 123 was the first in the usa to show 6 digits of miles that I am aware of, but I never had a 116. probably the 116 was first, because 107 and 114/5 and 108 all are 5 digit miles. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114
all of the 107's I have seen had 6 digit all the way back. On 12/7/2010 6:22 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Didn't early 107s have 5 digit odo? You are right though, the 380SLs have 6 digit. I was thinking of the 74 107 cluster I have. I think it is a 5 digit 107/116 were the first On 12/7/2010 3:15 PM, Dieselhead wrote: 123 was the first in the usa to show 6 digits of miles that I am aware of, but I never had a 116. probably the 116 was first, because 107 and 114/5 and 108 all are 5 digit miles. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The E420 Lives!
I can get you the code Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld -Original Message- From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 21:10:19 To: mercedesmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] The E420 Lives! Well, I finally got it back on the road. Having replaced the power steering pump and properly bled and filled the system, I needed to fix the gasoline leak. It turns out on the E420 (and maybe other W124s as well), there is a plastic cover that bolts on the underside of the body underneath the fuel pumps and filter. I initially thought the problem was just due to a loose banjo fitting in the lower fuel pump, but after I cleaned that up, I found that the rubber hose (with steel fittings on both ends) from the fuel filter to the hard line on the body was cracked badly and leaking profusely. I got the replacement hose and some copper sealing rings from Q and did the work last Saturday. The pictures attached show the progress. I did not have the correct size of copper sealing rings for the banjo fittings, so I re-used the old ones. There is a slow weeping of gasoline from the lower banjo on the lower fuel pump. During the job, I had unlocked the trunk and all the doors, lifted the trunk lid, locked the trunk and all the doors from the trunk and then disconnected the negative lead to the battery, leaving the trunk lid up. When I was finished with all of the work, I reconnected the negative lead to the battery, opened the drivers door with the key and then tried to start the car. After cycling the key innumerable times to fill the new fuel filter, I tried starting it. No go. I then noticed the headlights and turn signals were blinking in unison. If I turned the key to off and then back to on, the blinking lights started again. After a few minutes, I had an idea! I got out of the car, locked the car with the key in the driver's door lock, waited a few seconds, and then unlocked the car with the driver's door lock. When I got back in, the car started. I presume this is how it's supposed to work. I did notice that the horn was not sounding when the lights were blinking, which, I presume, was due to the car's alarm. I drove the car to church Sunday morning and to work today. It seems to work OK. It does have a lot more power than our '82 240D/3.0! :-) I called Q about the correct sealing rings today and they are on the way. Now I just need to get the code for the radio so I can activate it again. Craig -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fuel.leak.01.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 173654 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101206/7a242bcb/attachment.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fuel.leak.02.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 18 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101206/7a242bcb/attachment-0001.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fuel.leak.03.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 175049 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101206/7a242bcb/attachment-0002.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fuel.leak.04.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 163876 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101206/7a242bcb/attachment-0003.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fuel.leak.05.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 176321 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101206/7a242bcb/attachment-0004.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fuel.leak.06.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 174798 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101206/7a242bcb/attachment-0005.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fuel.leak.07.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 163412 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101206/7a242bcb/attachment-0006.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fuel.leak.08.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 176941 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101206/7a242bcb/attachment-0007.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fuel.leak.09.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 157810 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20101206/7a242bcb/attachment-0008.jpg -- next part -- A non-text
[MBZ] Maybe someone wants this?
I have a friend -- my sometime indy -- who's in the midst of moving his shop and has a 1984 500SEC project he can't keep anymore. It's a Calif car w/no rust, black on black leather, AMG 16 wheels, mileage around 160k I think. Needs a dash pad and a little upholstery repair as I recall, pretty good paint -- been sitting for at least 3 years. The original motor swallowed a valve and he already has a good used replacement motor plus the Auto trans is a fresh rebuild -- both are out of the car. He'll take $500. cash carry between now and next Sunday. The car is at Magic Touch Automotive 920 S. La Brea Ave. Los Angeles, CA 323-938-5798, or 323-938-6103 ask for Reuben. Feel free to mention my name. As usual -- no financial interest or consideration for me yadayada... I'm willing to look harder take pictures for anyone really interested. Contact me off-list. Regards, Chuck Meyer This was posted on the 'other' list... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Maybe someone wants this?
I thought this beast was going to be 180 miles away in Chitcago, so the ending of that post was a let-down. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: 1992 Mercedes Benz Turbo Diesel - $2500 (Boston)
Not Mine etc.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel Klatters!
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Date: 2010-12-07, 7:50AM
Im selling this excellent car cheap due a the need of some cash, just
need two things a brake job and new tires. It has clean title, the
engine has around 80 xxx miles and the body around 120 xxx, is blue navy
with beige leather .
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1992 Mercedes Benz Turbo Diesel - $2500 (Boston)
http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/2099583409.html I always wonder when a 120k car has a non-original engine. W140 that bent its rods at 40k and got a new factory engine? W140 that bent its rods later and got a used rodbender installed to replace it? W124 that somebody abused and stuck a used engine in? W124 gasser that somebody stuck the drivetrain from their wrecked diesel into? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114
123 was the first in the usa to show 6 digits of miles that I am aware of, but I never had a 116. probably the 116 was first, because 107 and 114/5 and 108 all are 5 digit miles. All our 107's were 6-digit, including the '76. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Static Sparks [was: Re: The W123 of vacuum cleaners]
On Tue, 7 Dec 2010 18:18:11 -0500 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Discharging static electricity reminds me: A favorite trick in the B-52 alert facility at Kincheloe AFB, MI, (near Sault Ste. Marie in the UP - very cold and dry winters) was to quietly shuffle feet on carpet while easing up behind somebody in the hall and ease your finger toward his ear lobe until it was close enough for a HEALTHY spark to jump the gap. ;)) You're nasty. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Craigslist
Cheap SDL: http://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/2080172213.html Cheap 4sp 240D W115: http://flint.craigslist.org/cto/2097791614.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Static Sparks [was: Re: The W123 of vacuum cleaners]
'Been zapped a few times, myself. Wilton - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 9:05 PM Subject: [MBZ] Static Sparks [was: Re: The W123 of vacuum cleaners] On Tue, 7 Dec 2010 18:18:11 -0500 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Discharging static electricity reminds me: A favorite trick in the B-52 alert facility at Kincheloe AFB, MI, (near Sault Ste. Marie in the UP - very cold and dry winters) was to quietly shuffle feet on carpet while easing up behind somebody in the hall and ease your finger toward his ear lobe until it was close enough for a HEALTHY spark to jump the gap. ;)) You're nasty. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Static Sparks
WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com writes: 'Been zapped a few times, myself. A few years ago I bought a yard vacuum/blower. Looks like a push mower but it's really a big outdoor vacuum cleaner. The discharge can be directed into a catch bag or just off to the side, which is what I do because I really don't vacuum with it, I just use the discharge air to blow leaves. It's a much higher volume of air than a hand-held leaf blower will put out. Due to the very dry summer we had some bare patches that were basically just dry dusty dirt. Whenever I hit one of those, I would feel static shocks in my hands from the dirt being sucked up, swirled around and blown out through the plastic discharge chute. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114
Ok, I will have to go dig out the cluster from that 74 euro 107 and see... But it is way cold and nasty outside, so not now. 123 was the first in the usa to show 6 digits of miles that I am aware of, but I never had a 116. probably the 116 was first, because 107 and 114/5 and 108 all are 5 digit miles. All our 107's were 6-digit, including the '76. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] CL Scam?
I looked at a van on CL and this is what I got back from the seller. Does it look like a scam? I am wondering why it was advertised in the central US if it is in WA? Any way to find out if this is a real military officer? The carfax shows it always being registered in WA. First of all i would like to give you some additional information about my situation. I am selling this car because my battalion has been sent back to Afghanistan and don't want it get old in my backyard. The price is low because I need to sell it before December 19. It has no damage, no scratches or dents, no hidden defects. It is in immaculate condition, meticulously maintained and hasn't been involved in any accident...I do have the title , clear, under my name. The Dodge has 37,160 original miles VIN#2D4GP44L86R856184. It is still available for sale if interested, price as stated in the ad $4750. The car is in Seattle WA, in case it gets sold I will take care of shipping. Let me know if you are interested, email back. Below are the car details, also link with more photos and copy of Carfax report. If the link doesn't work, copy and paste it into a new browser page. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114
Easy, the odometer stopped working. We all know when that happens, the car never ages! :D Walt On Dec 7, 2010 12:23 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Allan Streib wrote: http://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/2093884521.html How does a 40 year old daily driver accumulate 53,000 miles over its lifetime? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL Scam?
On Tue, 7 Dec 2010 22:54:05 -0600 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Does it look like a scam? Yes. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL Scam?
Here's what the google search for that vin# shows.. On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I looked at a van on CL and this is what I got back from the seller. Does it look like a scam? I am wondering why it was advertised in the central US if it is in WA? Any way to find out if this is a real military officer? The carfax shows it always being registered in WA. First of all i would like to give you some additional information about my situation. I am selling this car because my battalion has been sent back to Afghanistan and don't want it get old in my backyard. The price is low because I need to sell it before December 19. It has no damage, no scratches or dents, no hidden defects. It is in immaculate condition, meticulously maintained and hasn't been involved in any accident...I do have the title , clear, under my name. The Dodge has 37,160 original miles VIN#2D4GP44L86R856184. It is still available for sale if interested, price as stated in the ad $4750. The car is in Seattle WA, in case it gets sold I will take care of shipping. Let me know if you are interested, email back. Below are the car details, also link with more photos and copy of Carfax report. If the link doesn't work, copy and paste it into a new browser page. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL Scam?
Opps, forgot to give the URL. http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2009/06/03/scamming-the-craigslist-scammers.aspx On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 9:29 PM, John Freer mbfo...@gmail.com wrote: Here's what the google search for that vin# shows.. On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I looked at a van on CL and this is what I got back from the seller. Does it look like a scam? I am wondering why it was advertised in the central US if it is in WA? Any way to find out if this is a real military officer? The carfax shows it always being registered in WA. First of all i would like to give you some additional information about my situation. I am selling this car because my battalion has been sent back to Afghanistan and don't want it get old in my backyard. The price is low because I need to sell it before December 19. It has no damage, no scratches or dents, no hidden defects. It is in immaculate condition, meticulously maintained and hasn't been involved in any accident...I do have the title , clear, under my name. The Dodge has 37,160 original miles VIN#2D4GP44L86R856184. It is still available for sale if interested, price as stated in the ad $4750. The car is in Seattle WA, in case it gets sold I will take care of shipping. Let me know if you are interested, email back. Below are the car details, also link with more photos and copy of Carfax report. If the link doesn't work, copy and paste it into a new browser page. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
