Re: [MBZ] OT - Netflix
Invite sent from thebox.bz -Rolf On 02/10/2011 10:18 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Rolf wrote: If anyone is looking for BBC stuff I can hook you up with invite a BBC/ITV only site. Does anyone watch Aljazeera English? Give me that invite - I'm interested... I have been hearing that Aljazeera English have the best international coverages of anyone. I guess Burlington, VT is one of the only cities in USA that carries that Aljazeera English. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 84 300D crazy heat
The monovalve can be the problem - even though it looks OK. I have no idea how they work but I once swapped out the housing and it solved my problem after a new insert made no difference at all. Andrew 1983 and 1985 300TD, 1985 300CD On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Mike Esh michael...@me.com wrote: Defrost setting does not correct the problem. I am going re check mono valve. If the seal are good should I be ordering the whole unit? Mike Sent from my iPad On Feb 10, 2011, at 10:01 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Jim's comment stirs another thought: hitting Defrost should force the system to full heat and AC and high fan speed with air directed to the windshield; if that works (restores heat) then I'm pretty sure the PBU is one possible source (you may have multiple things wrong). -Max From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 9:17:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 84 300D crazy heat Perfect heat as I drive around town but when I get on the highway it drops down to less than 40 degrees. As soon as i slow down it bounces back to normal. Still sounds like a monovalve problem. Does the MAX setting make any difference? That should be equal to unplugging the monovalve. Did you shake the monovalve insert enough to see that its plunger was freely mobile? If your engine temperature gauge is solid you do _not_ have any radiator/clutch/thermostat/pump kinds of problems. Maybe something weird with the auxiliary water pump, the electric one to the HVAC. Would have to be some kind of obstruction, though, not just failure to pump. (It's only for idling in traffic, not highway conditions.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Outsourcing
Ah, ye of little faith! Don't you want to save $$$? Randy On 10/02/2011 6:44 PM, Robert Bigham wrote: I'll bet they also have the inside track to get you the $Eleventy Zillion that were left in the bank in someone's name similar to yours. Will only cost you maybe $45K in fees/bribes to get it released to them for your benefit. Honestly, how can we view these kind of things as other than scams? Ed 11. OT - outsourcing (R A Bennell) -- Message: 11 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:28:41 -0600 From: R A Bennellb...@mts.net To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT - outsourcing Yesterday afternoon I received an email message from someone in Lahore, Pakistan offering to do work for my law office: Typing ? Transcription ? Editing ? Formatting ? Diagrams ? Working on Incorporation Documents and Annual Return files ? Drafting Agreements ? Forms as per requirement ? Time Sheet Management ? Drafting PDF into MS Word, MS Excel or other Applications ? Data Entry (QBook, Simply Accounting, etc...) Cheaply and securely. The computer age is a bit scary. Pretty soon, they will be offering to haul my old car over there for a tuneup and then ship it back, cheaper than the fellow down the block can do it. Randy -- _ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - outsourcing
Outsourcing can be a good thing! What if you could gain a time advantage and subsequently win in court (or whatever the market/arena is)? You give your legal team new info at 5:00 p.m. Your lawyer sends it to Australia, where the day is just beginning. They work their normal 8 hour day (which is when you are sleeping, as well as your competition), send it back, so you have a new legal document when you get up at 6 a.m. You approve it, your lawyer presents your side to the Judge at 10:00 a.m., the other side is still trying to get their brief together. Judge gets impatient, other side feels the pressure and screws up, and you win the case. Which side do YOU want to be on? -Max From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 5:23:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - outsourcing If I hired an American lawyer, and I was paying him American wages, guess who I'd want to be doing the work. If I found out some dude over in Pakistan was being fed the work by way of outsourcing, our working relationship would come to an end in quite a hurry. Ed 300E On 10 February 2011 16:28, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote: Yesterday afternoon I received an email message from someone in Lahore, Pakistan offering to do work for my law office: Typing · Transcription · Editing · Formatting · Diagrams · Working on Incorporation Documents and Annual Return files · Drafting Agreements · Forms as per requirement · Time Sheet Management · Drafting PDF into MS Word, MS Excel or other Applications · Data Entry (QBook, Simply Accounting, etc...) Cheaply and securely. The computer age is a bit scary. Pretty soon, they will be offering to haul my old car over there for a tuneup and then ship it back, cheaper than the fellow down the block can do it. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 84 300D crazy heat
Mike, I'm more suspicious of your PBU now. If you did the power test, and found that removing power resulted in full heat, now you need to test the monovalve control signal from the PBU, to see if defrost provides zero power to the monovalve or if it is allowing some power to the monovalve. The peculiarities of monovalve wiring escape me now, but I think that the PBU simply provides the ground path, and cycles the ground signal. You'll need to verify that to determine how to test (i.e. do you test for a ground signal or a power signal?). -Max From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Fri, February 11, 2011 10:19:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 84 300D crazy heat The monovalve can be the problem - even though it looks OK. I have no idea how they work but I once swapped out the housing and it solved my problem after a new insert made no difference at all. Andrew 1983 and 1985 300TD, 1985 300CD On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Mike Esh michael...@me.com wrote: Defrost setting does not correct the problem. I am going re check mono valve. If the seal are good should I be ordering the whole unit? Mike Sent from my iPad On Feb 10, 2011, at 10:01 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Jim's comment stirs another thought: hitting Defrost should force the system to full heat and AC and high fan speed with air directed to the windshield; if that works (restores heat) then I'm pretty sure the PBU is one possible source (you may have multiple things wrong). -Max From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 9:17:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 84 300D crazy heat Perfect heat as I drive around town but when I get on the highway it drops down to less than 40 degrees. As soon as i slow down it bounces back to normal. Still sounds like a monovalve problem. Does the MAX setting make any difference? That should be equal to unplugging the monovalve. Did you shake the monovalve insert enough to see that its plunger was freely mobile? If your engine temperature gauge is solid you do _not_ have any radiator/clutch/thermostat/pump kinds of problems. Maybe something weird with the auxiliary water pump, the electric one to the HVAC. Would have to be some kind of obstruction, though, not just failure to pump. (It's only for idling in traffic, not highway conditions.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - outsourcing
On 11/02/2011 11:02 AM, Max Dillon wrote: Outsourcing can be a good thing! What if you could gain a time advantage and subsequently win in court (or whatever the market/arena is)? You give your legal team new info at 5:00 p.m. Your lawyer sends it to Australia, where the day is just beginning. They work their normal 8 hour day (which is when you are sleeping, as well as your competition), send it back, so you have a new legal document when you get up at 6 a.m. You approve it, your lawyer presents your side to the Judge at 10:00 a.m., the other side is still trying to get their brief together. Judge gets impatient, other side feels the pressure and screws up, and you win the case. Which side do YOU want to be on? -Max OR Your American lawyer sends it to Australia, where, in an effort to make a quick buck, the Australians send it to China, where some grandmother working in a hut with a dirt floor for $1 per week, works on it with her imperfect English and then sends it back via Australia. Your lawyer back in the States gets it but does not take the time to have a look at it as he is tired from working hard trying to keep up with the neighbors. He swaggers in to Court and hands it to the Judge, who has a look at it and says what kind of garbage is this? I cannot believe that a person with a law degree could be this incompetent. and throws your case out. Both you and your lawyer end up working shifts at WalMart as greeters. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Outsourcing
In a situation like that, I'd rather pay overtime for someone intimate with the case to work on it. But that's just me. Walt On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:39 AM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote: Ah, ye of little faith! Don't you want to save $$$? Randy On 10/02/2011 6:44 PM, Robert Bigham wrote: I'll bet they also have the inside track to get you the $Eleventy Zillion that were left in the bank in someone's name similar to yours. Will only cost you maybe $45K in fees/bribes to get it released to them for your benefit. Honestly, how can we view these kind of things as other than scams? Ed 11. OT - outsourcing (R A Bennell) -- Message: 11 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:28:41 -0600 From: R A Bennellb...@mts.net To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT - outsourcing Yesterday afternoon I received an email message from someone in Lahore, Pakistan offering to do work for my law office: Typing ? Transcription ? Editing ? Formatting ? Diagrams ? Working on Incorporation Documents and Annual Return files ? Drafting Agreements ? Forms as per requirement ? Time Sheet Management ? Drafting PDF into MS Word, MS Excel or other Applications ? Data Entry (QBook, Simply Accounting, etc...) Cheaply and securely. The computer age is a bit scary. Pretty soon, they will be offering to haul my old car over there for a tuneup and then ship it back, cheaper than the fellow down the block can do it. Randy -- _ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Netflix
Rolf wrote: Invite sent from thebox.bz Yabbuttt... I don't do tv, so I have nothing to upload. How can I be a member? They explicitly tell me I will be banned if I don't maintain a nice ratio. My ratio will be zero as I have nothing to upload. Tell me more, and... thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - outsourcing
My money would be on your discription, probably being closer to how such an outsourcing model would work in the real world. If a lawyer making $500+ per hour can't get his act together and arrive in court prepared, this isn't a lawyer you want in your corner, regardless if he runs to some dude in Australia or China for help. If your lawyer is outsourcing stuff the day before you're due in court, sorry friend, you're probably going down. hee hee Ed 300E On 11 February 2011 12:36, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote: On 11/02/2011 11:02 AM, Max Dillon wrote: Outsourcing can be a good thing! What if you could gain a time advantage and subsequently win in court (or whatever the market/arena is)? You give your legal team new info at 5:00 p.m. Your lawyer sends it to Australia, where the day is just beginning. They work their normal 8 hour day (which is when you are sleeping, as well as your competition), send it back, so you have a new legal document when you get up at 6 a.m. You approve it, your lawyer presents your side to the Judge at 10:00 a.m., the other side is still trying to get their brief together. Judge gets impatient, other side feels the pressure and screws up, and you win the case. Which side do YOU want to be on? -Max OR Your American lawyer sends it to Australia, where, in an effort to make a quick buck, the Australians send it to China, where some grandmother working in a hut with a dirt floor for $1 per week, works on it with her imperfect English and then sends it back via Australia. Your lawyer back in the States gets it but does not take the time to have a look at it as he is tired from working hard trying to keep up with the neighbors. He swaggers in to Court and hands it to the Judge, who has a look at it and says what kind of garbage is this? I cannot believe that a person with a law degree could be this incompetent. and throws your case out. Both you and your lawyer end up working shifts at WalMart as greeters. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - outsourcing
Let me put it this way, if you were due in court tomorrow, on a big charge, and they told you this was their game plan, would you go for it? I know I wouldn't. I would be asking why all the pissing around at the last minute, but in much more colourful language than that. hee hee Ed 300E On 11 February 2011 12:02, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Outsourcing can be a good thing! What if you could gain a time advantage and subsequently win in court (or whatever the market/arena is)? You give your legal team new info at 5:00 p.m. Your lawyer sends it to Australia, where the day is just beginning. They work their normal 8 hour day (which is when you are sleeping, as well as your competition), send it back, so you have a new legal document when you get up at 6 a.m. You approve it, your lawyer presents your side to the Judge at 10:00 a.m., the other side is still trying to get their brief together. Judge gets impatient, other side feels the pressure and screws up, and you win the case. Which side do YOU want to be on? -Max From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 5:23:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - outsourcing If I hired an American lawyer, and I was paying him American wages, guess who I'd want to be doing the work. If I found out some dude over in Pakistan was being fed the work by way of outsourcing, our working relationship would come to an end in quite a hurry. Ed 300E On 10 February 2011 16:28, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote: Yesterday afternoon I received an email message from someone in Lahore, Pakistan offering to do work for my law office: Typing · Transcription · Editing · Formatting · Diagrams · Working on Incorporation Documents and Annual Return files · Drafting Agreements · Forms as per requirement · Time Sheet Management · Drafting PDF into MS Word, MS Excel or other Applications · Data Entry (QBook, Simply Accounting, etc...) Cheaply and securely. The computer age is a bit scary. Pretty soon, they will be offering to haul my old car over there for a tuneup and then ship it back, cheaper than the fellow down the block can do it. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 300TD in FL - I could just b*rf
This is a Euro model with the skinny rubber-insert bumpers and oogy cloth seats. Bleccch. Plus, IMO it's way overpriced. What does anyone else think? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-Turbo-Diesel-MB-300-TD-Turbo-Wagon-CLEAN-1-family-owner-full-docs-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem230df875a2QQitemZ150558242210QQptZUSQ5fCarsQ5fTrucks ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Outsourcing
The more people you put between yourself and the work you're trying to get done, the more chance for screw ups. Throw in language differences, questionable reliability of communication systems, work ethics, and outsourcing for anything of any importance is a disaster waiting to happen, in my opinion. There is no money to be saved in the end, it's all a false economy. Remember what our parents taught us, you get what you pay for. As true today as it ever was. :-) Ed 300E On 11 February 2011 12:55, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: In a situation like that, I'd rather pay overtime for someone intimate with the case to work on it. But that's just me. Walt On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:39 AM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote: Ah, ye of little faith! Don't you want to save $$$? Randy On 10/02/2011 6:44 PM, Robert Bigham wrote: I'll bet they also have the inside track to get you the $Eleventy Zillion that were left in the bank in someone's name similar to yours. Will only cost you maybe $45K in fees/bribes to get it released to them for your benefit. Honestly, how can we view these kind of things as other than scams? Ed 11. OT - outsourcing (R A Bennell) -- Message: 11 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:28:41 -0600 From: R A Bennellb...@mts.net To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT - outsourcing Yesterday afternoon I received an email message from someone in Lahore, Pakistan offering to do work for my law office: Typing ? Transcription ? Editing ? Formatting ? Diagrams ? Working on Incorporation Documents and Annual Return files ? Drafting Agreements ? Forms as per requirement ? Time Sheet Management ? Drafting PDF into MS Word, MS Excel or other Applications ? Data Entry (QBook, Simply Accounting, etc...) Cheaply and securely. The computer age is a bit scary. Pretty soon, they will be offering to haul my old car over there for a tuneup and then ship it back, cheaper than the fellow down the block can do it. Randy -- _ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD in FL - I could just b*rf
I really like the exterior colour, but I don't think I could live with those seats. The window tint would come out pretty fast too, but having said that, I don't like in Florida, so it's not really required here. Ed 300E On 11 February 2011 13:35, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: This is a Euro model with the skinny rubber-insert bumpers and oogy cloth seats. Bleccch. Plus, IMO it's way overpriced. What does anyone else think? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-Turbo-Diesel-MB-300-TD-Turbo-Wagon-CLEAN-1-family-owner-full-docs-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem230df875a2QQitemZ150558242210QQptZUSQ5fCarsQ5fTrucks ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - outsourcing
And we love Canada! What a pity all nations can't seem to get along with each other and enjoy each other as much as we do. Thank for for being our friends. Wilton - Original Message - From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 10:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - outsourcing For me, I apply it to pretty much everything I can, and it's becoming harder and harder to do all the time. Example, I went to buy some dental floss sticks tonight. Anything I eat or goes in my mouth, I always go with a known name, thinking (wrongly) that such companies would still wish to manufacture in the US, or some other developed nation. Everything on the shelf, and I mean, every product was made in China! Come on America, has your industry got to the point where you can't string a piece of dental floss over a plastic toothpick?? And I don't buy all this crap about it can be made cheaper offshore. I looked at some collared t-shirts for women the other day. Brand name, made in China, $68.00 !!! Somebody please tell me with a straight face, you couldn't make a collared t-shirt, pay an America a decent wage to stitch it together, with materials sourced domestically, for less than $68.00, and still make money faster than you could spend it. I love America, I think it's one of the best countries in the world, but I think she needs to have a good look at the road she's going down, and get her act together, while she's still in a position to do so! Every time you reach for your wallet, demand to get what you want, from where you want it, nothing less. Ed 300E (not an American, but an admirer) On 10 February 2011 22:26, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Ed wrote: If I hired an American lawyer, and I was paying him American wages, guess who I'd want to be doing the work. If I found out some dude over in Pakistan was being fed the work by way of outsourcing, our working relationship would come to an end in quite a hurry. Why is this analysis not applied to steelworkers, or other manufacturing positions? Same dope, same gig, no? I picture USA as a bunch of old fiddley diddleys all in rocking chairs being fed intravenously managed by some computer jock in Lahore. Ain't life in USA wunnerful... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD in FL - I could just b*rf
I'm surprised to se a FL car admit to 304 kmi. I'd expect it to be 104k or 154k or something like that regardless of the real mileage. ; Wilton - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 1:35 PM Subject: [MBZ] 300TD in FL - I could just b*rf This is a Euro model with the skinny rubber-insert bumpers and oogy cloth seats. Bleccch. Plus, IMO it's way overpriced. What does anyone else think? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-Turbo-Diesel-MB-300-TD-Turbo-Wagon-CLEAN-1-family-owner-full-docs-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem230df875a2QQitemZ150558242210QQptZUSQ5fCarsQ5fTrucks ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - outsourcing
Hey, for $50+ per hour, I'm in your corner. Randy On 11/02/2011 12:23 PM, E M wrote: My money would be on your discription, probably being closer to how such an outsourcing model would work in the real world. If a lawyer making $500+ per hour can't get his act together and arrive in court prepared, this isn't a lawyer you want in your corner, regardless if he runs to some dude in Australia or China for help. If your lawyer is outsourcing stuff the day before you're due in court, sorry friend, you're probably going down. hee hee Ed 300E On 11 February 2011 12:36, R A Bennellb...@mts.net wrote: On 11/02/2011 11:02 AM, Max Dillon wrote: Outsourcing can be a good thing! What if you could gain a time advantage and subsequently win in court (or whatever the market/arena is)? You give your legal team new info at 5:00 p.m. Your lawyer sends it to Australia, where the day is just beginning. They work their normal 8 hour day (which is when you are sleeping, as well as your competition), send it back, so you have a new legal document when you get up at 6 a.m. You approve it, your lawyer presents your side to the Judge at 10:00 a.m., the other side is still trying to get their brief together. Judge gets impatient, other side feels the pressure and screws up, and you win the case. Which side do YOU want to be on? -Max OR Your American lawyer sends it to Australia, where, in an effort to make a quick buck, the Australians send it to China, where some grandmother working in a hut with a dirt floor for $1 per week, works on it with her imperfect English and then sends it back via Australia. Your lawyer back in the States gets it but does not take the time to have a look at it as he is tired from working hard trying to keep up with the neighbors. He swaggers in to Court and hands it to the Judge, who has a look at it and says what kind of garbage is this? I cannot believe that a person with a law degree could be this incompetent. and throws your case out. Both you and your lawyer end up working shifts at WalMart as greeters. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Netflix
Read the FAQ. Basically download the FREE stuff as soon as it comes out and you will build up a nice ratio. Most of it is soaps. FREE is free to download but you get upload credit back. -Rolf On 02/11/2011 01:00 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Rolf wrote: Invite sent from thebox.bz Yabbuttt... I don't do tv, so I have nothing to upload. How can I be a member? They explicitly tell me I will be banned if I don't maintain a nice ratio. My ratio will be zero as I have nothing to upload. Tell me more, and... thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD in FL - I could just b*rf
This came up on the boards. I have already emailed the ebayer and asked for proof of the turbo. -Rolf On 02/11/2011 01:35 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: This is a Euro model with the skinny rubber-insert bumpers and oogy cloth seats. Bleccch. Plus, IMO it's way overpriced. What does anyone else think? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-Turbo-Diesel-MB-300-TD-Turbo-Wagon-CLEAN-1-family-owner-full-docs-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem230df875a2QQitemZ150558242210QQptZUSQ5fCarsQ5fTrucks ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - outsourcing
Until you foil a robbery by grabbing the perp instead of running. --R On 2/11/2011 12:36 PM, R A Bennell wrote: Both you and your lawyer end up working shifts at WalMart as greeters. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD in FL - I could just b*rf
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 10:35 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: This is a Euro model with the skinny rubber-insert bumpers and oogy cloth seats. Bleccch. Plus, IMO it's way overpriced. What does anyone else think? http://tinyurl.com/4nnjjfh ___ Overpriced for sure. Bumpers a matter of taste---I don't think the big black DOT bumpers are anywhere near the aesthetic offense on the 123 that they are on the 116 and 107. I agree about the seats--- I had that blue plaid fabric in my Euro 280SLC and it was scratchy and didn't breathe well. But they could be re-covered, or Tex ones swapped from another car. Aren't the manual climate controls a big plus? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Outsourcing
This is cracking me up - here is why. Yesterday a fellow medical practice manager shared that his physicians were going to begin using a transcription service in pakistan. The administrator said he knows its not going to work, but has to try it as its 1/2 price to apease the physicians he is working with. He is sure it will have more blanks on each dictation and that all the physician time will be spent correcting them. Peter On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 12:37 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: The more people you put between yourself and the work you're trying to get done, the more chance for screw ups. Throw in language differences, questionable reliability of communication systems, work ethics, and outsourcing for anything of any importance is a disaster waiting to happen, in my opinion. There is no money to be saved in the end, it's all a false economy. Remember what our parents taught us, you get what you pay for. As true today as it ever was. :-) Ed 300E On 11 February 2011 12:55, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: In a situation like that, I'd rather pay overtime for someone intimate with the case to work on it. But that's just me. Walt On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:39 AM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote: Ah, ye of little faith! Don't you want to save $$$? Randy On 10/02/2011 6:44 PM, Robert Bigham wrote: I'll bet they also have the inside track to get you the $Eleventy Zillion that were left in the bank in someone's name similar to yours. Will only cost you maybe $45K in fees/bribes to get it released to them for your benefit. Honestly, how can we view these kind of things as other than scams? Ed 11. OT - outsourcing (R A Bennell) -- Message: 11 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:28:41 -0600 From: R A Bennellb...@mts.net To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT - outsourcing Yesterday afternoon I received an email message from someone in Lahore, Pakistan offering to do work for my law office: Typing ? Transcription ? Editing ? Formatting ? Diagrams ? Working on Incorporation Documents and Annual Return files ? Drafting Agreements ? Forms as per requirement ? Time Sheet Management ? Drafting PDF into MS Word, MS Excel or other Applications ? Data Entry (QBook, Simply Accounting, etc...) Cheaply and securely. The computer age is a bit scary. Pretty soon, they will be offering to haul my old car over there for a tuneup and then ship it back, cheaper than the fellow down the block can do it. Randy -- _ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Outsourcing
Better not use Chinese transcriptionists, they would all be wondering why all these old guys want to have long-lasting elections on demand. --R On 2/11/2011 3:16 PM, Peter Hertzing wrote: This is cracking me up - here is why. Yesterday a fellow medical practice manager shared that his physicians were going to begin using a transcription service in pakistan. The administrator said he knows its not going to work, but has to try it as its 1/2 price to apease the physicians he is working with. He is sure it will have more blanks on each dictation and that all the physician time will be spent correcting them. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD in FL - I could just b*rf
I like the color and it looks to be in nice shape. A new set of seat covers would fix her right up. or some bamboo beaded things --R On 2/11/2011 1:35 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: This is a Euro model with the skinny rubber-insert bumpers and oogy cloth seats. Bleccch. Plus, IMO it's way overpriced. What does anyone else think? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-Turbo-Diesel-MB-300-TD-Turbo-Wagon-CLEAN-1-family-owner-full-docs-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem230df875a2QQitemZ150558242210QQptZUSQ5fCarsQ5fTrucks ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Outsourcing
There was a Dilbert comic this week, along similar lines, but it was auto-correct instead of outsourced transcription. :P Walt On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com wrote: This is cracking me up - here is why. Yesterday a fellow medical practice manager shared that his physicians were going to begin using a transcription service in pakistan. The administrator said he knows its not going to work, but has to try it as its 1/2 price to apease the physicians he is working with. He is sure it will have more blanks on each dictation and that all the physician time will be spent correcting them. Peter On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 12:37 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: The more people you put between yourself and the work you're trying to get done, the more chance for screw ups. Throw in language differences, questionable reliability of communication systems, work ethics, and outsourcing for anything of any importance is a disaster waiting to happen, in my opinion. There is no money to be saved in the end, it's all a false economy. Remember what our parents taught us, you get what you pay for. As true today as it ever was. :-) Ed 300E On 11 February 2011 12:55, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: In a situation like that, I'd rather pay overtime for someone intimate with the case to work on it. But that's just me. Walt On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:39 AM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote: Ah, ye of little faith! Don't you want to save $$$? Randy On 10/02/2011 6:44 PM, Robert Bigham wrote: I'll bet they also have the inside track to get you the $Eleventy Zillion that were left in the bank in someone's name similar to yours. Will only cost you maybe $45K in fees/bribes to get it released to them for your benefit. Honestly, how can we view these kind of things as other than scams? Ed 11. OT - outsourcing (R A Bennell) -- Message: 11 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:28:41 -0600 From: R A Bennellb...@mts.net To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT - outsourcing Yesterday afternoon I received an email message from someone in Lahore, Pakistan offering to do work for my law office: Typing ? Transcription ? Editing ? Formatting ? Diagrams ? Working on Incorporation Documents and Annual Return files ? Drafting Agreements ? Forms as per requirement ? Time Sheet Management ? Drafting PDF into MS Word, MS Excel or other Applications ? Data Entry (QBook, Simply Accounting, etc...) Cheaply and securely. The computer age is a bit scary. Pretty soon, they will be offering to haul my old car over there for a tuneup and then ship it back, cheaper than the fellow down the block can do it. Randy -- _ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD in FL - I could just b*rf
Exterior color is OK but if it isn't a turbodiesel that would be a crime. On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I like the color and it looks to be in nice shape. A new set of seat covers would fix her right up. or some bamboo beaded things --R On 2/11/2011 1:35 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: This is a Euro model with the skinny rubber-insert bumpers and oogy cloth seats. Bleccch. Plus, IMO it's way overpriced. What does anyone else think? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-Turbo-Diesel-MB-300-TD-Turbo-Wagon-CLEAN-1-family-owner-full-docs-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem230df875a2QQitemZ150558242210QQptZUSQ5fCarsQ5fTrucks ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD in FL - I could just b*rf
On 8:59 a.m., andrew strasfogel wrote: This is a Euro model with the skinny rubber-insert bumpers and oogy cloth seats. Bleccch. Plus, IMO it's way overpriced. What does anyone else think? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-Turbo-Diesel-MB-300-TD-Turbo-Wagon-CLEAN-1-family-owner-full-docs-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem230df875a2QQitemZ150558242210QQptZUSQ5fCarsQ5fTrucks Well, Andrew, this looks like an exact replica of my 300TD. In fact, the old ticker did a little leap seeing this one advertised. Except mine is RHD, 85K miles lighter on the odo, 5-spd manual, non-turbo (sigh), has Euro headlights, and is in way better condition inside and out. This one still looks pretty good to me, despite the wear and tear. The skinny rubber-insert bumpers and oogy cloth seats look normal, mate. I wouldn't mind getting just the reserve ($US4,950) for mine! Euan Christchurch NZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD in FL - I could just b*rf
Euan, with a 5 speed transmission your 300TD would look great in any color, even pea soup! On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Euan goneb...@paradise.net.nz wrote: On 8:59 a.m., andrew strasfogel wrote: This is a Euro model with the skinny rubber-insert bumpers and oogy cloth seats. Bleccch. Plus, IMO it's way overpriced. What does anyone else think? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-Turbo-Diesel-MB-300-TD-Turbo-Wagon-CLEAN-1-family-owner-full-docs-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem230df875a2QQitemZ150558242210QQptZUSQ5fCarsQ5fTrucks Well, Andrew, this looks like an exact replica of my 300TD. In fact, the old ticker did a little leap seeing this one advertised. Except mine is RHD, 85K miles lighter on the odo, 5-spd manual, non-turbo (sigh), has Euro headlights, and is in way better condition inside and out. This one still looks pretty good to me, despite the wear and tear. The skinny rubber-insert bumpers and oogy cloth seats look normal, mate. I wouldn't mind getting just the reserve ($US4,950) for mine! Euan Christchurch NZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD in FL - I could just b*rf
Manual heat and AC is a big plus to me. You get heat and ac that works without the high $ maintenance of the ACCII system Overall it is not a bad car, and if I needed one, I would consider it. Not hard to put blue MBtex seats in, or new covers. 300K on a 617 is up there, but with all the service records, the car is worth a lot more. So what is worth? 3K? If you bought one for 3k and then spent 100 hours and $1500 worth of parts, you have $4500 and 100 hours of time to get it into the condition of this one. (Not that is is perfect, but it is not bad either.) You have a $4500 car with 100 hours. What is your time worth, not to mention mileage to track down parts, take it to a shop, go back to get it, etc? If your time is worth $10,000 a year, that is 5 bucks an hour. So you have $5000 in a car if your time is worth only $5 an hour. Not many people will work for $5/hr. The cheapest MB you can find, may be the most expensive one you find. (yes, you can take that 2 ways, and both are valid.) You can quote me. A $5k 123 wagon is not a bad deal if it is solid and a 26 yr old car doesn't scare you. I have paid top dollar and had cheap MBs I have paid bottom dollar and had expensive MBs And I paid mid to high dollar and had a very expensive MB on one. Overpriced for sure. Bumpers a matter of taste---I don't think the big black DOT bumpers are anywhere near the aesthetic offense on the 123 that they are on the 116 and 107. I agree about the seats--- I had that blue plaid fabric in my Euro 280SLC and it was scratchy and didn't breathe well. But they could be re-covered, or Tex ones swapped from another car. Aren't the manual climate controls a big plus? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD in FL - I could just b*rf
I prefer low mileage good body cheap ones and replacing everything but the engine. -Rolf On 02/11/2011 04:52 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Manual heat and AC is a big plus to me. You get heat and ac that works without the high $ maintenance of the ACCII system Overall it is not a bad car, and if I needed one, I would consider it. Not hard to put blue MBtex seats in, or new covers. 300K on a 617 is up there, but with all the service records, the car is worth a lot more. So what is worth? 3K? If you bought one for 3k and then spent 100 hours and $1500 worth of parts, you have $4500 and 100 hours of time to get it into the condition of this one. (Not that is is perfect, but it is not bad either.) You have a $4500 car with 100 hours. What is your time worth, not to mention mileage to track down parts, take it to a shop, go back to get it, etc? If your time is worth $10,000 a year, that is 5 bucks an hour. So you have $5000 in a car if your time is worth only $5 an hour. Not many people will work for $5/hr. The cheapest MB you can find, may be the most expensive one you find. (yes, you can take that 2 ways, and both are valid.) You can quote me. A $5k 123 wagon is not a bad deal if it is solid and a 26 yr old car doesn't scare you. I have paid top dollar and had cheap MBs I have paid bottom dollar and had expensive MBs And I paid mid to high dollar and had a very expensive MB on one. Overpriced for sure. Bumpers a matter of taste---I don't think the big black DOT bumpers are anywhere near the aesthetic offense on the 123 that they are on the 116 and 107. I agree about the seats--- I had that blue plaid fabric in my Euro 280SLC and it was scratchy and didn't breathe well. But they could be re-covered, or Tex ones swapped from another car. Aren't the manual climate controls a big plus? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Which?
..Yabbuttt... I don't do tv, so I have nothing to upload. How can I be a member?.. So you continually tell us. So why then are you asking about Aljazera English? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD in FL - I could just b*rf
High mileage over 300K not a great choice if you drive 25K miles/year... On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote: I prefer low mileage good body cheap ones and replacing everything but the engine. -Rolf On 02/11/2011 04:52 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Manual heat and AC is a big plus to me. You get heat and ac that works without the high $ maintenance of the ACCII system Overall it is not a bad car, and if I needed one, I would consider it. Not hard to put blue MBtex seats in, or new covers. 300K on a 617 is up there, but with all the service records, the car is worth a lot more. So what is worth? 3K? If you bought one for 3k and then spent 100 hours and $1500 worth of parts, you have $4500 and 100 hours of time to get it into the condition of this one. (Not that is is perfect, but it is not bad either.) You have a $4500 car with 100 hours. What is your time worth, not to mention mileage to track down parts, take it to a shop, go back to get it, etc? If your time is worth $10,000 a year, that is 5 bucks an hour. So you have $5000 in a car if your time is worth only $5 an hour. Not many people will work for $5/hr. The cheapest MB you can find, may be the most expensive one you find. (yes, you can take that 2 ways, and both are valid.) You can quote me. A $5k 123 wagon is not a bad deal if it is solid and a 26 yr old car doesn't scare you. I have paid top dollar and had cheap MBs I have paid bottom dollar and had expensive MBs And I paid mid to high dollar and had a very expensive MB on one. Overpriced for sure. Bumpers a matter of taste---I don't think the big black DOT bumpers are anywhere near the aesthetic offense on the 123 that they are on the 116 and 107. I agree about the seats--- I had that blue plaid fabric in my Euro 280SLC and it was scratchy and didn't breathe well. But they could be re-covered, or Tex ones swapped from another car. Aren't the manual climate controls a big plus? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD in FL - I could just b*rf
Agreed... I don't really see anything too bad about this car. The price is a bit high considering the mileage, but from what I've seen lately, this is one of the nicer wagons on the market. Good service and owner documentation its very valuable here. Despite the sour deals made in Florida, this one looks and sounds pretty legit. The car is certainly a turbodiesel... they were offered in europe. This is a great example of one. Last model year, euro spec... sign me up! MB cloth seats are pretty cool, but fade badly as you can see in this car. Once upon a time I had a euro 300D with green cloth... I found it quite comfortable and really enjoyed it: http://images.jaimekop.com/2004_02_29_Green_300D/2004_02_29_Green_300D-Pages/Image24.html Jaime On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Manual heat and AC is a big plus to me. You get heat and ac that works without the high $ maintenance of the ACCII system Overall it is not a bad car, and if I needed one, I would consider it. Not hard to put blue MBtex seats in, or new covers. 300K on a 617 is up there, but with all the service records, the car is worth a lot more. So what is worth? 3K? If you bought one for 3k and then spent 100 hours and $1500 worth of parts, you have $4500 and 100 hours of time to get it into the condition of this one. (Not that is is perfect, but it is not bad either.) You have a $4500 car with 100 hours. What is your time worth, not to mention mileage to track down parts, take it to a shop, go back to get it, etc? If your time is worth $10,000 a year, that is 5 bucks an hour. So you have $5000 in a car if your time is worth only $5 an hour. Not many people will work for $5/hr. The cheapest MB you can find, may be the most expensive one you find. (yes, you can take that 2 ways, and both are valid.) You can quote me. A $5k 123 wagon is not a bad deal if it is solid and a 26 yr old car doesn't scare you. I have paid top dollar and had cheap MBs I have paid bottom dollar and had expensive MBs And I paid mid to high dollar and had a very expensive MB on one. Overpriced for sure. Bumpers a matter of taste---I don't think the big black DOT bumpers are anywhere near the aesthetic offense on the 123 that they are on the 116 and 107. I agree about the seats--- I had that blue plaid fabric in my Euro 280SLC and it was scratchy and didn't breathe well. But they could be re-covered, or Tex ones swapped from another car. Aren't the manual climate controls a big plus? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD in FL - I could just b*rf
But speaking of 300TDs that make me want to barf: http://search.ebay.com/110647241129 Black paint on the headlight surrounds and grill... i just don't understand it at all. I can only imagine what other modifications or improvements the owner has made to this one. Jaime ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Netflix
-Rolf wrote: Read the FAQ. Basically download the FREE stuff as soon as it comes out and you will build up a nice ratio. Most of it is soaps. FREE is free to download but you get upload credit back. This all download torrents? Is there a section that is streaming? Do they carry Aljazeera? Thanks - I'm gonna activate and go look, just the same. Thanks for the tip about FREE stuff. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - outsourcing
--R wrote: Until you foil a robbery by grabbing the perp instead of running. That corporate policy is *not* that bad, really. Follow through on the logic? Why risk lives over a $200 netbook? When and where did you ever learn that a person's life is worth less than any stuff that someone might steal? What does the cost of stuff need to be such that you might risk someone else's life in exchange? An example - my son flies lear35 ambulance and they bid on a job recently flying some guy in jail from Californicate to NC - what??!! With guards, two crews - at who's cost? While my attitude defies my previous logic... I am not ready to stuff the jail guy, but I would refuse personally. The cost to do stuff these days exceeds my worth on earth, period. I'm close to being completely outsourced - off the planet. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD in FL - I could just b*rf
Alex wrote: ...or Tex ones swapped from another car. Pah!! I wish the previous owner did not do that to my euro W123. I would love to have the experience of speaking about cloth seats, but... merely have the same old mbtex that I had in my other 'merukun W123's. Oh, well - I like the euro, and the late development cycle performance this W123 seems to exhibit. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - outsourcing
Mountain Man wrote: --R wrote: Until you foil a robbery by grabbing the perp instead of running. That corporate policy is *not* that bad, really. Follow through on the logic? Why risk lives over a $200 netbook? Because your employer will fire you if you don't just stand there and wait for the felon to shoot you dead. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD in FL - I could just b*rf
Euan wrote: Except mine is RHD, 85K miles lighter on the odo, 5-spd manual, non-turbo... Is yours a 300? - or 240? Nice, either way. Send it up here - we could use some of that vintage tech here. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD in FL - I could just b*rf
Jaime wrote: MB cloth seats are pretty cool, but fade badly as you can see in this car. Once upon a time I had a euro 300D with green cloth... I found it quite comfortable and really enjoyed it: Who drives that today - Alvaro? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - outsourcing
Mitch wrote: Because your employer will fire you if you don't just stand there and wait for the felon to shoot you dead. The objective is to let the furor of the moment die and all walk away alive, no? In which case, it does not seem a *bad* policy, no? The case you put up - I can see a logical objection to the policy, but the story did not put that element up. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Which?
RLE wrote: So you continually tell us. So why then are you asking about Aljazera English? I spoke to that earlier - because someone had mentioned it elsewhere that it is a very decent news outlet - best in the world regarding other nations. USA news outlets, by comparison - not my comparison - are all slanted to USA, i.e. we are being indoctrinated, we are being spoonfed junque. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No cable
Do you have clear LOS for the 3/4 mile? You can make a pair of directional antennae and set up a wireless link the whole way... You can probably find cisco 1300 series wireless bridges for cheap on auction sites (btw I have a pair of G radios for the 1300's, so a B model could be upgraded) -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Feb 10, 2011, at 21:54, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: That sounds like a cool experiment! Let us know how it works out. On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: That makes sense. (As long as it doesn't mean that I would get fast upload speeds and slow download---exactly the opposite of useful.) I was thinking, as a first test, of mounting the 4G USB modem thingy as the feed of an old DirectTV dish that the previous owners of the house left, then waving it around to see if I could get a decent signal. (The software they give you includes a signal strength meter.) Alex -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - outsourcing
Name brands might not be safe anymore; our pediatrician has instructed us (specifically) to get generic liquid childrens' ibuprofen and acetaminophen (paracetamol in some parts of the world) -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Feb 10, 2011, at 22:51, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: For me, I apply it to pretty much everything I can, and it's becoming harder and harder to do all the time. Example, I went to buy some dental floss sticks tonight. Anything I eat or goes in my mouth, I always go with a known name, thinking (wrongly) that such companies would still wish to manufacture in the US, or some other developed nation. Everything on the shelf, and I mean, every product was made in China! Come on America, has your industry got to the point where you can't string a piece of dental floss over a plastic toothpick?? And I don't buy all this crap about it can be made cheaper offshore. I looked at some collared t-shirts for women the other day. Brand name, made in China, $68.00 !!! Somebody please tell me with a straight face, you couldn't make a collared t-shirt, pay an America a decent wage to stitch it together, with materials sourced domestically, for less than $68.00, and still make money faster than you could spend it. I love America, I think it's one of the best countries in the world, but I think she needs to have a good look at the road she's going down, and get her act together, while she's still in a position to do so! Every time you reach for your wallet, demand to get what you want, from where you want it, nothing less. Ed 300E (not an American, but an admirer) On 10 February 2011 22:26, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Ed wrote: If I hired an American lawyer, and I was paying him American wages, guess who I'd want to be doing the work. If I found out some dude over in Pakistan was being fed the work by way of outsourcing, our working relationship would come to an end in quite a hurry. Why is this analysis not applied to steelworkers, or other manufacturing positions? Same dope, same gig, no? I picture USA as a bunch of old fiddley diddleys all in rocking chairs being fed intravenously managed by some computer jock in Lahore. Ain't life in USA wunnerful... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No cable
Easier way. Get the longest powered usb extension cable you can buy. Plug in a QUALITY usb wifi adapter, with an external antenna port. Add one high-gain yagi. Alternatively, you can use a usb-ethernet adapter instead, then use 100 meters of cat5, a small router with a solar panel+battery, 2 good yagi's, and the firmware setup for rx on one, tx on the other. That should give you length enough. There's also circular patch antenna's and a 15 foot sat dish as well ;) Walt, who's done some stuff like this before. On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 6:30 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: Do you have clear LOS for the 3/4 mile? You can make a pair of directional antennae and set up a wireless link the whole way... You can probably find cisco 1300 series wireless bridges for cheap on auction sites (btw I have a pair of G radios for the 1300's, so a B model could be upgraded) -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Feb 10, 2011, at 21:54, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: That sounds like a cool experiment! Let us know how it works out. On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: That makes sense. (As long as it doesn't mean that I would get fast upload speeds and slow download---exactly the opposite of useful.) I was thinking, as a first test, of mounting the 4G USB modem thingy as the feed of an old DirectTV dish that the previous owners of the house left, then waving it around to see if I could get a decent signal. (The software they give you includes a signal strength meter.) Alex -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 84 300D crazy heat
I thought the monovalve failure mode (when no power was applied) was to go full open... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Feb 11, 2011, at 12:30, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Mike, I'm more suspicious of your PBU now. If you did the power test, and found that removing power resulted in full heat, now you need to test the monovalve control signal from the PBU, to see if defrost provides zero power to the monovalve or if it is allowing some power to the monovalve. The peculiarities of monovalve wiring escape me now, but I think that the PBU simply provides the ground path, and cycles the ground signal. You'll need to verify that to determine how to test (i.e. do you test for a ground signal or a power signal?). -Max From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Fri, February 11, 2011 10:19:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 84 300D crazy heat The monovalve can be the problem - even though it looks OK. I have no idea how they work but I once swapped out the housing and it solved my problem after a new insert made no difference at all. Andrew 1983 and 1985 300TD, 1985 300CD On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Mike Esh michael...@me.com wrote: Defrost setting does not correct the problem. I am going re check mono valve. If the seal are good should I be ordering the whole unit? Mike Sent from my iPad On Feb 10, 2011, at 10:01 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Jim's comment stirs another thought: hitting Defrost should force the system to full heat and AC and high fan speed with air directed to the windshield; if that works (restores heat) then I'm pretty sure the PBU is one possible source (you may have multiple things wrong). -Max From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 9:17:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 84 300D crazy heat Perfect heat as I drive around town but when I get on the highway it drops down to less than 40 degrees. As soon as i slow down it bounces back to normal. Still sounds like a monovalve problem. Does the MAX setting make any difference? That should be equal to unplugging the monovalve. Did you shake the monovalve insert enough to see that its plunger was freely mobile? If your engine temperature gauge is solid you do _not_ have any radiator/clutch/thermostat/pump kinds of problems. Maybe something weird with the auxiliary water pump, the electric one to the HVAC. Would have to be some kind of obstruction, though, not just failure to pump. (It's only for idling in traffic, not highway conditions.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT a mac question
So I have this imac on the network, and a macbook sometimes, and a winders compooter, and I can see files on the winders compooter from the imac and grab those files, but can't see the imac from the winders compooter. I want to be able to see files on the imac from the winders machine, and grab them to do various things to them. How do I do that? I tried at some point to write a file on the winders machine from the imac, and got some sort of error message telling me I couldn't do that for some obscure reason. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - outsourcing
Mountain Man wrote: The objective is to let the furor of the moment die and all walk away alive, no? In which case, it does not seem a *bad* policy, no? If getting away alive is the object, you're pretty fucking stupid if you cooperate with somebody who's threatening to make you unalive. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - outsourcing
Mitch Haley wrote: If getting away alive is the object, you're pretty effing stupid if you cooperate with somebody who's threatening to make you unalive. Oops, wrong list. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W126 seats
I opened up a can of worms! Owning this car for over 20 years, the power seats never worked, except the for/aft on the drivers seat. Well, that too quit. The seats are totally destroyed as far as leather goes. So I decided to do some exploratory investigation as to what it will take to make it a little better. So far I found it'sa PITA to remove the (drivers) seat. Rear bolts are visible but hardly accesible. Found long lost trasures under that seat, though. Wiring tested fine but tripplepack motors were all dead. All tests, like binding, continuity of armature, short of armature, etc showed no fault. Can't screw up something that's alredy broken, I took the gizmo out and took it apart. No appearent signs of failure. Commutators clean, brushes good, windings with out discoloration. Tested again for shorts, open circuits (each one of the buggers has an overload breaker). I can't throw nothing away without making sure it's useless. How to get these three worms back in the can? It's one thing to get the commutator between the brushes, all three of them But sliding the 3-barrel permanent magnet stator over them.(the magnet acts like a oppinionated supersucker). A piece of wood, 3 pieces of wire cut to lenght worms are back in the can. After all that, not that I fixed anything, All 3 motors ZZZUM. Where is the fourth motor? (Backrest) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - outsourcing
I'd think we can overlook the F word this time, being that it's used to stress the value of life. Walt On Feb 11, 2011 7:07 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Mitch Haley wrote: If getting away alive is the object, you're pretty effing stupid if you cooperate with somebody who's threatening to make you unalive. Oops, wrong list. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W126 seats
Just cought that: EXPLORATORY INVESTIG... Isn't that is redundant? Both look for the unknown. On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com wrote: I opened up a can of worms! Owning this car for over 20 years, the power seats never worked, except the for/aft on the drivers seat. Well, that too quit. The seats are totally destroyed as far as leather goes. So I decided to do some exploratory investigation as to what it will take to make it a little better. So far I found it'sa PITA to remove the (drivers) seat. Rear bolts are visible but hardly accesible. Found long lost trasures under that seat, though. Wiring tested fine but tripplepack motors were all dead. All tests, like binding, continuity of armature, short of armature, etc showed no fault. Can't screw up something that's alredy broken, I took the gizmo out and took it apart. No appearent signs of failure. Commutators clean, brushes good, windings with out discoloration. Tested again for shorts, open circuits (each one of the buggers has an overload breaker). I can't throw nothing away without making sure it's useless. How to get these three worms back in the can? It's one thing to get the commutator between the brushes, all three of them But sliding the 3-barrel permanent magnet stator over them.(the magnet acts like a oppinionated supersucker). A piece of wood, 3 pieces of wire cut to lenght worms are back in the can. After all that, not that I fixed anything, All 3 motors ZZZUM. Where is the fourth motor? (Backrest) -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No cable
Used to say in the subject line no MB content or such. What you think about OTC stocks? I think the Eastern... On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 5:30 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: Do you have clear LOS for the 3/4 mile? You can make a pair of directional antennae and set up a wireless link the whole way... You can probably find cisco 1300 series wireless bridges for cheap on auction sites (btw I have a pair of G radios for the 1300's, so a B model could be upgraded) -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Feb 10, 2011, at 21:54, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: That sounds like a cool experiment! Let us know how it works out. On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: That makes sense. (As long as it doesn't mean that I would get fast upload speeds and slow download---exactly the opposite of useful.) I was thinking, as a first test, of mounting the 4G USB modem thingy as the feed of an old DirectTV dish that the previous owners of the house left, then waving it around to see if I could get a decent signal. (The software they give you includes a signal strength meter.) Alex -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 84 300D crazy heat
Yeah, but the thing will get stuck. It's cheap, the core that is. Testing is useless. Electrically that is. I got an old one. Looks good. You want it? On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 5:39 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: I thought the monovalve failure mode (when no power was applied) was to go full open... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Feb 11, 2011, at 12:30, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Mike, I'm more suspicious of your PBU now. If you did the power test, and found that removing power resulted in full heat, now you need to test the monovalve control signal from the PBU, to see if defrost provides zero power to the monovalve or if it is allowing some power to the monovalve. The peculiarities of monovalve wiring escape me now, but I think that the PBU simply provides the ground path, and cycles the ground signal. You'll need to verify that to determine how to test (i.e. do you test for a ground signal or a power signal?). -Max From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Fri, February 11, 2011 10:19:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 84 300D crazy heat The monovalve can be the problem - even though it looks OK. I have no idea how they work but I once swapped out the housing and it solved my problem after a new insert made no difference at all. Andrew 1983 and 1985 300TD, 1985 300CD On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Mike Esh michael...@me.com wrote: Defrost setting does not correct the problem. I am going re check mono valve. If the seal are good should I be ordering the whole unit? Mike Sent from my iPad On Feb 10, 2011, at 10:01 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Jim's comment stirs another thought: hitting Defrost should force the system to full heat and AC and high fan speed with air directed to the windshield; if that works (restores heat) then I'm pretty sure the PBU is one possible source (you may have multiple things wrong). -Max From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 9:17:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 84 300D crazy heat Perfect heat as I drive around town but when I get on the highway it drops down to less than 40 degrees. As soon as i slow down it bounces back to normal. Still sounds like a monovalve problem. Does the MAX setting make any difference? That should be equal to unplugging the monovalve. Did you shake the monovalve insert enough to see that its plunger was freely mobile? If your engine temperature gauge is solid you do _not_ have any radiator/clutch/thermostat/pump kinds of problems. Maybe something weird with the auxiliary water pump, the electric one to the HVAC. Would have to be some kind of obstruction, though, not just failure to pump. (It's only for idling in traffic, not highway conditions.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD ___
Re: [MBZ] 300TD in FL - I could just b*rf
He has a screw blocking the vacuum line. I wonder how he shuts it off? Mike Sent from my iPad L On Feb 11, 2011, at 5:32 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: But speaking of 300TDs that make me want to barf: http://search.ebay.com/110647241129 Black paint on the headlight surrounds and grill... i just don't understand it at all. I can only imagine what other modifications or improvements the owner has made to this one. Jaime ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 84 300D crazy heat
Yes. How would like me to pay? Sent from my iPad On Feb 11, 2011, at 8:58 PM, Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, but the thing will get stuck. It's cheap, the core that is. Testing is useless. Electrically that is. I got an old one. Looks good. You want it? On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 5:39 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: I thought the monovalve failure mode (when no power was applied) was to go full open... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Feb 11, 2011, at 12:30, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Mike, I'm more suspicious of your PBU now. If you did the power test, and found that removing power resulted in full heat, now you need to test the monovalve control signal from the PBU, to see if defrost provides zero power to the monovalve or if it is allowing some power to the monovalve. The peculiarities of monovalve wiring escape me now, but I think that the PBU simply provides the ground path, and cycles the ground signal. You'll need to verify that to determine how to test (i.e. do you test for a ground signal or a power signal?). -Max From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Fri, February 11, 2011 10:19:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 84 300D crazy heat The monovalve can be the problem - even though it looks OK. I have no idea how they work but I once swapped out the housing and it solved my problem after a new insert made no difference at all. Andrew 1983 and 1985 300TD, 1985 300CD On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Mike Esh michael...@me.com wrote: Defrost setting does not correct the problem. I am going re check mono valve. If the seal are good should I be ordering the whole unit? Mike Sent from my iPad On Feb 10, 2011, at 10:01 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Jim's comment stirs another thought: hitting Defrost should force the system to full heat and AC and high fan speed with air directed to the windshield; if that works (restores heat) then I'm pretty sure the PBU is one possible source (you may have multiple things wrong). -Max From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 9:17:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 84 300D crazy heat Perfect heat as I drive around town but when I get on the highway it drops down to less than 40 degrees. As soon as i slow down it bounces back to normal. Still sounds like a monovalve problem. Does the MAX setting make any difference? That should be equal to unplugging the monovalve. Did you shake the monovalve insert enough to see that its plunger was freely mobile? If your engine temperature gauge is solid you do _not_ have any radiator/clutch/thermostat/pump kinds of problems. Maybe something weird with the auxiliary water pump, the electric one to the HVAC. Would have to be some kind of obstruction, though, not just failure to pump. (It's only for idling in traffic, not highway conditions.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD
Re: [MBZ] 300TD in FL - I could just b*rf
No, I sold it to some stupid kid. It needed a clutch and I told him so... I saw him a year later and he hadn't done it yet but the car was for sale again. Its was a good beater, but not a really nice car. I used it for commuting for about a year after I bought a 240D and realized that one hill on the way to work was a bit too much for it. I don't mind the slow acceleration of the 240D, but if I can't maintain speed on the highway during rush hour I can't deal with it. Previously I drove one for about 5 years, but my commute was flat then. Jaime On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 6:22 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Jaime wrote: MB cloth seats are pretty cool, but fade badly as you can see in this car. Once upon a time I had a euro 300D with green cloth... I found it quite comfortable and really enjoyed it: Who drives that today - Alvaro? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 84 300D crazy heat
Pick it up. It's free. On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Mike Esh michael...@me.com wrote: Yes. How would like me to pay? Sent from my iPad On Feb 11, 2011, at 8:58 PM, Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, but the thing will get stuck. It's cheap, the core that is. Testing is useless. Electrically that is. I got an old one. Looks good. You want it? On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 5:39 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: I thought the monovalve failure mode (when no power was applied) was to go full open... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Feb 11, 2011, at 12:30, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Mike, I'm more suspicious of your PBU now. If you did the power test, and found that removing power resulted in full heat, now you need to test the monovalve control signal from the PBU, to see if defrost provides zero power to the monovalve or if it is allowing some power to the monovalve. The peculiarities of monovalve wiring escape me now, but I think that the PBU simply provides the ground path, and cycles the ground signal. You'll need to verify that to determine how to test (i.e. do you test for a ground signal or a power signal?). -Max From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Fri, February 11, 2011 10:19:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 84 300D crazy heat The monovalve can be the problem - even though it looks OK. I have no idea how they work but I once swapped out the housing and it solved my problem after a new insert made no difference at all. Andrew 1983 and 1985 300TD, 1985 300CD On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Mike Esh michael...@me.com wrote: Defrost setting does not correct the problem. I am going re check mono valve. If the seal are good should I be ordering the whole unit? Mike Sent from my iPad On Feb 10, 2011, at 10:01 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Jim's comment stirs another thought: hitting Defrost should force the system to full heat and AC and high fan speed with air directed to the windshield; if that works (restores heat) then I'm pretty sure the PBU is one possible source (you may have multiple things wrong). -Max From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 9:17:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 84 300D crazy heat Perfect heat as I drive around town but when I get on the highway it drops down to less than 40 degrees. As soon as i slow down it bounces back to normal. Still sounds like a monovalve problem. Does the MAX setting make any difference? That should be equal to unplugging the monovalve. Did you shake the monovalve insert enough to see that its plunger was freely mobile? If your engine temperature gauge is solid you do _not_ have any radiator/clutch/thermostat/pump kinds of problems. Maybe something weird with the auxiliary water pump, the electric one to the HVAC. Would have to be some kind of obstruction, though, not just failure to pump. (It's only for idling in traffic, not highway conditions.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list
Re: [MBZ] Which?
I was under the beleife this is a MB oriented list. Where is the moderator. FYA. On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: RLE wrote: So you continually tell us. So why then are you asking about Aljazera English? I spoke to that earlier - because someone had mentioned it elsewhere that it is a very decent news outlet - best in the world regarding other nations. USA news outlets, by comparison - not my comparison - are all slanted to USA, i.e. we are being indoctrinated, we are being spoonfed junque. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No TV but....
I spoke to that earlier - because someone had mentioned it elsewhere that it is a very decent news outlet - best in the world regarding other nations. USA news outlets, by comparison - not my comparison - are all slanted to USA, i.e. we are being indoctrinated, we are being spoonfed junque. Who is we, actually? And without TV, how do you come to this conclusion? One way to avoid junque would be stay away from hate radio which is not what one could call even-handed. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Netflix
Again, Mount/ Relig... FYS Same fuc#ers over and over... I amk sick of i8t.l On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: -Rolf wrote: Read the FAQ. Basically download the FREE stuff as soon as it comes out and you will build up a nice ratio. Most of it is soaps. FREE is free to download but you get upload credit back. This all download torrents? Is there a section that is streaming? Do they carry Aljazeera? Thanks - I'm gonna activate and go look, just the same. Thanks for the tip about FREE stuff. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Kaleb
You stil lthere? List sucks -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Netflix
Torrents only. If you want al jazeera they stream 24/7 online. http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/ They really are a good source of news. Way better than most of the media whores we have here. On 2/11/2011 5:49 PM, Mountain Man wrote: -Rolf wrote: Read the FAQ. Basically download the FREE stuff as soon as it comes out and you will build up a nice ratio. Most of it is soaps. FREE is free to download but you get upload credit back. This all download torrents? Is there a section that is streaming? Do they carry Aljazeera? Thanks - I'm gonna activate and go look, just the same. Thanks for the tip about FREE stuff. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Netflix
Has noth'n to do with Mercedes. On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote: Torrents only. If you want al jazeera they stream 24/7 online. http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/ They really are a good source of news. Way better than most of the media whores we have here. On 2/11/2011 5:49 PM, Mountain Man wrote: -Rolf wrote: Read the FAQ. Basically download the FREE stuff as soon as it comes out and you will build up a nice ratio. Most of it is soaps. FREE is free to download but you get upload credit back. This all download torrents? Is there a section that is streaming? Do they carry Aljazeera? Thanks - I'm gonna activate and go look, just the same. Thanks for the tip about FREE stuff. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Nice engine
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[MBZ] Interactive realtime weather map
Move your cursor over the city you want. http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/zoa/mwmap3.php?map=usa RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - outsourcing
Mitch wrote: If getting away alive is the object, you're pretty f***ing stupid if you cooperate with somebody who's threatening to make you unalive. So, to cooperate does *not* de-fuse the situation? I believe this is the doctrine that we have been indoctrinated in, no? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Which?
Hans wrote: I was under the beleife this is a MB oriented list. Where is the moderator. FYA. Educate me, please. What is FYA? We are allowed much latitude to be off-topic from MB here - it fosters brotherhood comraderie. Sometimes that is necessary beyond merely technical discussions... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Netflix
We use PlayOn (playon.tv); they recently restructured pricing such that it is $40/year-ish, including support. Basically it is a DLNA server that converts online video in real time and streams it as high -bandwidth MPEG2 within the house network. The PC is in the basement, and then we have PS3s (with the media remotes, so it is a lot like a Tivo) on the TVs as DLNA clients. Any other DLNA client should work as well. For us a big advantage to PlayOn (aside from formal support) is that one server can serve multiple TVs, so SWMBO can watch upstairs while kids watch downstairs. (Another advantage I was not expecting: since the kids know they can watch show X whenever, they wind up not watching at all. We did not get this benefit from Tivo, though I'm not sure why it is different.) There is a plug in for German content, so there might also be Italian; you can look at playonplugins.com. That written, since you have the computer on the (only?) TV already, you might rather look at Boxee or XBMC. One of them might be the better solution for your setup. I have no affiliation with anyone who makes money from any of the above companies, just a happy customer. -Tim Who must admit that, while life is more interesting, it is much harder to keep the house clean when the children do not watch television. On Feb 10, 2011 12:05 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No TV but....
RLE wrote: Who is we, actually? And without TV, how do you come to this conclusion? One way to avoid junque would be stay away from hate radio which is not what one could call even-handed. Hey Hans - this is another OT discussion, but it builds bruthahood among mercedes car owners. I sat and had breakfast years ago with RLE - not that he would allow that to happen today... but it did happen years ago. We? - people of the USA. I don't need tv to know this. How many people do you know that do not do tv? qed. There is zero thinking when feed both visually and audibly are being fed - you are being indoctrinated, by definition. I don't hear hate radio, not unless you consider npr hate radio? Is all news radio hate radio? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb
Hans wrote: You stil lthere? List sucks Hey Hans - give us some mercedes content, otherwise join banned, which is also at Kaleb's domain. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 84 300D crazy heat
And where do you live? Mike Sent from my iPad On Feb 11, 2011, at 9:45 PM, Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com wrote: Pick it up. It's free. On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Mike Esh michael...@me.com wrote: Yes. How would like me to pay? Sent from my iPad On Feb 11, 2011, at 8:58 PM, Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, but the thing will get stuck. It's cheap, the core that is. Testing is useless. Electrically that is. I got an old one. Looks good. You want it? On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 5:39 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: I thought the monovalve failure mode (when no power was applied) was to go full open... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Feb 11, 2011, at 12:30, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Mike, I'm more suspicious of your PBU now. If you did the power test, and found that removing power resulted in full heat, now you need to test the monovalve control signal from the PBU, to see if defrost provides zero power to the monovalve or if it is allowing some power to the monovalve. The peculiarities of monovalve wiring escape me now, but I think that the PBU simply provides the ground path, and cycles the ground signal. You'll need to verify that to determine how to test (i.e. do you test for a ground signal or a power signal?). -Max From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Fri, February 11, 2011 10:19:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 84 300D crazy heat The monovalve can be the problem - even though it looks OK. I have no idea how they work but I once swapped out the housing and it solved my problem after a new insert made no difference at all. Andrew 1983 and 1985 300TD, 1985 300CD On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Mike Esh michael...@me.com wrote: Defrost setting does not correct the problem. I am going re check mono valve. If the seal are good should I be ordering the whole unit? Mike Sent from my iPad On Feb 10, 2011, at 10:01 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Jim's comment stirs another thought: hitting Defrost should force the system to full heat and AC and high fan speed with air directed to the windshield; if that works (restores heat) then I'm pretty sure the PBU is one possible source (you may have multiple things wrong). -Max From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 9:17:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 84 300D crazy heat Perfect heat as I drive around town but when I get on the highway it drops down to less than 40 degrees. As soon as i slow down it bounces back to normal. Still sounds like a monovalve problem. Does the MAX setting make any difference? That should be equal to unplugging the monovalve. Did you shake the monovalve insert enough to see that its plunger was freely mobile? If your engine temperature gauge is solid you do _not_ have any radiator/clutch/thermostat/pump kinds of problems. Maybe something weird with the auxiliary water pump, the electric one to the HVAC. Would have to be some kind of obstruction, though, not just failure to pump. (It's only for idling in traffic, not highway conditions.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to
Re: [MBZ] OT: Nice engine
Interesting. It would be nice to have that available as an MB Diesel some year. The other application I see is my long wanted BMW Diesel boxer motorcycle, as a very small engine. Bet it is a screamer as a two cycle engine! And I thought Jimmy diesels were screamers. IF this is as high rpm as they say as a two cycle, it might sound like a glow fuel model airplane engine on steroids. It would also make for a good mid engine van or sports car. http://www.engineeringtv.com/video/Opposed-Piston-Opposed-Cylinder ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TD in FL - I could just b*rf
Agreed, the asking price is too high for this vehicle especially considering the 300K mileage. I like the exterior color as it's the same as my '84 300D, and I recently acquired an '85 300TD from my brother w/ 178K on the odo, but the manual heat/AC controls would be great as I'm not a big fan of the dreaded PBU, etc. as I've been living with maximum heat output no matter where the temp thumbwheel of the PBU is set in my '84 300D for the past 2-3 years and the J. Cathey diagnostic procedure hasn't helped. And, weren't all the '85 300TDs turbodiesels? G. M. Brown Brevard, NC -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 300D 300TD 111210.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1715823 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20110211/3a3d50b8/attachment.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No cable
On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 18:38:36 -0500 Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: Easier way. Get the longest powered usb extension cable you can buy. Plug in a QUALITY usb wifi adapter, with an external antenna port. Add one high-gain yagi. For use at work, I purchased a USB extender that has two boxes with a pair of fiber-optic cables between them. IIRC, you can go several kilometers between them. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Which?
There it went. I have a Subararu, ya now, On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Hans wrote: I was under the beleife this is a MB oriented list. Where is the moderator. FYA. Educate me, please. What is FYA? We are allowed much latitude to be off-topic from MB here - it fosters brotherhood comraderie. Sometimes that is necessary beyond merely technical discussions... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com