Re: [MBZ] Does concentrated coolant have a shelf life?

2012-08-23 Thread Gerry Archer

It measures the acidity/alkalinity of solutions.  Dip the disposable paper
test strip in a solution and then compare it to a color scale.  Cheapest is
Walmart at about $5.00.  (Some Walmart stores don't have them but Walmart
mailorder does.)  Widely used for numerous applications; many manufacturers
make them.  As long as the Ph is between 7 and 11, the antifreeze is okay.
If you have a regular doctor, his nurse might be willing to test your
antifreeze for Ph with a strip that's used for urine.

There are special strips for different types of antifreeze which measure
additional characteristics but they are more expensive and probably not
needed for our purposes.  (Available at big truck/big equipment dealers and
some at NAPA.)
Gerry


Gerry wrote:

tested the ph with a urine ph test strip (ph was 9 or
10)...


Tell me more about this test strip - manufacturer name and cost.
Thanks.
mao



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[MBZ] List working today?

2012-08-23 Thread Max Dillon
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Re: [MBZ] List working today?

2012-08-23 Thread Frederick Moir
It has got to be you, I'm working.
 
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Re: [MBZ] List working today?

2012-08-23 Thread Dan Penoff
Me too. Getting ready for the RNC *and* hurricane Isaac.

Woo-hoo!

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] occupying the deadly 3rd row.

2012-08-23 Thread Randy Bennell

On 22/08/2012 6:38 PM, Mountain Man wrote:

OK Don wrote:

What part of Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness do you not
understand?

Very nice.
Very patriotic.
What part of robbery do we not grasp?
Don't count me saying robbery is the collective contribution for
roads, etc as has been hot politics lately.  However, whatever
happened, the prospect of another job for this old guy with skills
that have vanished is nil to none.  I will work - no problem.  Gimme
the opportunity to pursue life, liberty, happiness again.  But also
count me ready to accept 'die already' is just fine - something I
count as a civic responsibility within the moniker Ask not what your
country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.
Gotta go.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] List working today?

2012-08-23 Thread Max Dillon
Thanks guys. Rebooted my phone and all seems well now.
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Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

Me too. Getting ready for the RNC *and* hurricane Isaac.

Woo-hoo!

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] Now this looks nice

2012-08-23 Thread Randy Bennell


But $12K? and it is a gasser.

Not sure that such low mileage is a good thing either. Sometimes sitting 
around is just as hard on things as using them.


Randy

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http://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/3213043790.html





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Re: [MBZ] List working today?

2012-08-23 Thread Rick Knoble
It's you. Only seven messages. Eight now.
Everybody is hard at work. 

Rick
Sent from my iPhone

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[MBZ] Florida hurricane. was: List working today?

2012-08-23 Thread Gerry Archer
That's going to be a circus at the RNC if Isaac does hit Tampa, but when 
they come up the west coast of Florida you never know where they might turn 
in.  Tampa has been flooded by hurricane related storm surges as during 
the 1921 hurricane:


... In Tampa, much of the city was flooded, and three people were 
killed in drowning incidents and flying debris..


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1921_Tampa_Bay_hurricane

Gerry.who was in two or three that affected the Tampa Bay area.


Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:
Me too. Getting ready for the RNC *and* hurricane Isaac.
Woo-hoo!
Dan

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It has got to be you, I'm working.

Fred Moir
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Re: [MBZ] Florida hurricane. was: List working today?

2012-08-23 Thread Rich Thomas
It will be great entertainment to see how dedicated the protestors are 
with a blow about.  They might ask for more pay -- hazard duty you know!


-R

On 8/23/2012 12:18 PM, Gerry Archer wrote:
That's going to be a circus at the RNC if Isaac does hit Tampa, but 
when they come up the west coast of Florida you never know where they 
might turn in.  Tampa has been flooded by hurricane related storm 
surges as during the 1921 hurricane:


... In Tampa, much of the city was flooded, and three people were 
killed in drowning incidents and flying debris..


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1921_Tampa_Bay_hurricane

Gerry.who was in two or three that affected the Tampa Bay area.



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[MBZ] Clinical depression. was: occupying the deadly 3rd row.

2012-08-23 Thread Gerry Archer

OK Don wrote:

What part of Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness do you not
understand?



Very nice.
Very patriotic.
What part of robbery do we not grasp?
Don't count me saying robbery is the collective contribution for
roads, etc as has been hot politics lately.  However, whatever
happened, the prospect of another job for this old guy with skills
that have vanished is nil to none.  I will work - no problem.  Gimme
the opportunity to pursue life, liberty, happiness again.  But also
count me ready to accept 'die already' is just fine - something I
count as a civic responsibility within the moniker Ask not what your
country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.
Gotta go.
mao
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You might want to talk to someone about depression issues?
Randy
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I second that.  One out of every four Americans have some sort of 
psychological issue during their lifetime and it's often clinical 
depression.  Clinical depression is very treatable and not necessarily 
expensive.  Effective free treatment is also widely available.


Clinical depression symptoms may include:

Depressed mood most of the day, nearly every day
Loss of interest or pleasure in most activities
Significant weight loss or gain
Sleeping too much or not being able to sleep nearly every day
Slowed thinking or movement that others can see
Fatigue or low energy nearly every day
Feelings of worthlessness or inappropriate guilt
Loss of concentration or indecisiveness
Recurring thoughts of death or suicide

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/clinical-depression/AN01057

Gerry 



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Re: [MBZ] Florida hurricane. was: List working today?

2012-08-23 Thread WILTON
Tampa Bay's a little higher now, isn't it?  While B-47's were stationed 
there at MacDill AFB 50 to 60 years ago, so many went into the bay, Air 
Force air crewmen had a saying, One a day in Tampa Bay.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
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Subject: [MBZ] Florida hurricane. was: List working today?


That's going to be a circus at the RNC if Isaac does hit Tampa, but when 
they come up the west coast of Florida you never know where they might 
turn in.  Tampa has been flooded by hurricane related storm surges as 
during the 1921 hurricane:


... In Tampa, much of the city was flooded, and three people were 
killed in drowning incidents and flying debris..


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1921_Tampa_Bay_hurricane

Gerry.who was in two or three that affected the Tampa Bay area.


Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:
Me too. Getting ready for the RNC *and* hurricane Isaac.
Woo-hoo!
Dan

On Aug 23, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com 
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It has got to be you, I'm working.

Fred Moir
Lynn MA
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Re: [MBZ] Does concentrated coolant have a shelf life?

2012-08-23 Thread Allan Streib
Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com writes:

 If you have a regular doctor, his nurse might be willing to test your
 antifreeze for Ph with a strip that's used for urine.

Or substitute a cup of antifreeze for your pee at your next physical,
and wait for the frantic call from your Dr's office the next day

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Re: [MBZ] Florida hurricane. was: List working today?

2012-08-23 Thread Dan Penoff
Because of the massive disruption the RNC is causing for the city and downtown 
area, many of us are all too glad to see a hurricane blow in at the same time.

Our downtown is literally boarded up, businesses closed, and access pretty well 
cut off due to the absolutely over the top security.

The school district headquarters where I work is going to be shuttered all week 
next week, even though we are one block outside of the security zone.

It's the second week of school, so you can imagine what a huge disruption this 
is going to be.

I would add that we are not being reimbursed for any of the costs we are 
incurring to relocate hundreds of staff for the week, or the work that has 
taken place to protect our building from the anarchists whom the government 
says are going to destroy everything within reach.

If you listen to the FBI and Secret Service people, you would think that the 
place is going to be a smoking crater by the end of the convention. Oy!

Dan

On Aug 23, 2012, at 12:44 PM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 It will be great entertainment to see how dedicated the protestors are with a 
 blow about.  They might ask for more pay -- hazard duty you know!
 
 -R
 
 On 8/23/2012 12:18 PM, Gerry Archer wrote:
 That's going to be a circus at the RNC if Isaac does hit Tampa, but when 
 they come up the west coast of Florida you never know where they might turn 
 in.  Tampa has been flooded by hurricane related storm surges as during 
 the 1921 hurricane:
 
 ... In Tampa, much of the city was flooded, and three people were 
 killed in drowning incidents and flying debris..
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1921_Tampa_Bay_hurricane
 
 Gerry.who was in two or three that affected the Tampa Bay area.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Florida hurricane. was: List working today?

2012-08-23 Thread Dan Penoff
The runway at MacDill is over 11,000 feet these days, so I would be surprised 
if anyone ran into the drink.

No B-47s any more. Just KC-135 and the DC-10 variant tankers.

And lots and lots of secure communications, since we are CENTCOM...

Dan What communications?

On Aug 23, 2012, at 12:48 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Tampa Bay's a little higher now, isn't it?  While B-47's were stationed there 
 at MacDill AFB 50 to 60 years ago, so many went into the bay, Air Force air 
 crewmen had a saying, One a day in Tampa Bay.
 
 Wilton
 
 - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 12:18 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] Florida hurricane. was: List working today?
 
 
 That's going to be a circus at the RNC if Isaac does hit Tampa, but when 
 they come up the west coast of Florida you never know where they might turn 
 in.  Tampa has been flooded by hurricane related storm surges as during 
 the 1921 hurricane:
 
 ... In Tampa, much of the city was flooded, and three people were 
 killed in drowning incidents and flying debris..
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1921_Tampa_Bay_hurricane
 
 Gerry.who was in two or three that affected the Tampa Bay area.
 
 Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Me too. Getting ready for the RNC *and* hurricane Isaac.
 Woo-hoo!
 Dan
 
 On Aug 23, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 It has got to be you, I'm working.
 
 Fred Moir
 Lynn MA
 Diesel preferred.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Florida hurricane. was: List working today?

2012-08-23 Thread Allan Streib
Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com writes:

 Because of the massive disruption the RNC is causing for the city and
 downtown area, many of us are all too glad to see a hurricane blow in
 at the same time.

 Our downtown is literally boarded up, businesses closed, and access
 pretty well cut off due to the absolutely over the top security.

Hm, so much for the economic activity such an event would normally
bring to the area

 If you listen to the FBI and Secret Service people, you would think
 that the place is going to be a smoking crater by the end of the
 convention. Oy!

Security people have a completely different mindset.  Everyone and
everything is a potential threat.  I suppose to some degree they have to
be that way, but something about the culture in these organizations
seems to propel them to extremes.  I see this even in our own network
security people at work.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Florida hurricane. was: List working today?

2012-08-23 Thread Gerry Archer

Don't know if Tampa Bays higher.  Left there in '56.  There was talk years
ago of closing it and selling the land, but now there's all kinds of
activity.
Gerry

From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com

Tampa Bay's a little higher now, isn't it?  While B-47's were stationed
there at MacDill AFB 50 to 60 years ago, so many went into the bay, Air
Force air crewmen had a saying, One a day in Tampa Bay.
Wilton

From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com

That's going to be a circus at the RNC if Isaac does hit Tampa, but when
they come up the west coast of Florida you never know where they might
turn in.  Tampa has been flooded by hurricane related storm surges as
during the 1921 hurricane:

... In Tampa, much of the city was flooded, and three people were
killed in drowning incidents and flying debris..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1921_Tampa_Bay_hurricane

Gerry.who was in two or three that affected the Tampa Bay area.


Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:
Me too. Getting ready for the RNC *and* hurricane Isaac.
Woo-hoo!
Dan

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Fred Moir
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Re: [MBZ] Florida hurricane. was: List working today?

2012-08-23 Thread WILTON
MacDill's runway may have been 11K feet, or so, when B-47's (under-powered, 
slow to accelerate and hard to stop) were there about 1951 - '63, but some 
still went into the bay.  'Don't know how many but enough to make us SAC air 
crewmen talk about One a day in Tampa Bay.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Florida hurricane. was: List working today?


The runway at MacDill is over 11,000 feet these days, so I would be 
surprised if anyone ran into the drink.


No B-47s any more. Just KC-135 and the DC-10 variant tankers.

And lots and lots of secure communications, since we are CENTCOM...

Dan What communications?

On Aug 23, 2012, at 12:48 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

Tampa Bay's a little higher now, isn't it?  While B-47's were stationed 
there at MacDill AFB 50 to 60 years ago, so many went into the bay, Air 
Force air crewmen had a saying, One a day in Tampa Bay.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: Gerry Archer 
arche...@embarqmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 12:18 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Florida hurricane. was: List working today?


That's going to be a circus at the RNC if Isaac does hit Tampa, but when 
they come up the west coast of Florida you never know where they might 
turn in.  Tampa has been flooded by hurricane related storm surges as 
during the 1921 hurricane:


... In Tampa, much of the city was flooded, and three people were 
killed in drowning incidents and flying debris..


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1921_Tampa_Bay_hurricane

Gerry.who was in two or three that affected the Tampa Bay area.


Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:
Me too. Getting ready for the RNC *and* hurricane Isaac.
Woo-hoo!
Dan

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Fred Moir
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Re: [MBZ] Florida hurricane. was: List working today?

2012-08-23 Thread Dan Penoff
I can't elaborate on specifics, since I have been involved in some of the 
planning, suffice to say in my opinion I think the FBI and SS are blowing 
things out of proportion.

The big news right now (also on CNN) is how they have intercepted 
communications between the anarchists, and they are planning on blowing up 
bridges to disrupt traffic.

This could be done (disrupting traffic) but the bridges are in very visible and 
controlled areas. I don't see how anyone could get close to them if they wanted 
to.

A lot of hype and Nervous Nellies, if you ask me.

I think the anarchists make such chatter just to get law enforcement into a 
tizzy

Dan

On Aug 23, 2012, at 2:41 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com writes:
 
 Because of the massive disruption the RNC is causing for the city and
 downtown area, many of us are all too glad to see a hurricane blow in
 at the same time.
 
 Our downtown is literally boarded up, businesses closed, and access
 pretty well cut off due to the absolutely over the top security.
 
 Hm, so much for the economic activity such an event would normally
 bring to the area
 
 If you listen to the FBI and Secret Service people, you would think
 that the place is going to be a smoking crater by the end of the
 convention. Oy!
 
 Security people have a completely different mindset.  Everyone and
 everything is a potential threat.  I suppose to some degree they have to
 be that way, but something about the culture in these organizations
 seems to propel them to extremes.  I see this even in our own network
 security people at work.
 
 Allan
 
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Re: [MBZ] Florida hurricane. was: List working today?

2012-08-23 Thread Dan Penoff
BTW, I am a network security person. I am not hyper about it by any means.

I liken it more to a cat and mouse sort of thing, not a massive show of force 
approach.

But yes, I have experienced what you describe. I am sure it is worse when it's 
a university - you have to balance the typical liberal approach that education 
typically has with the need to properly protect network assets.

Dan

On Aug 23, 2012, dat 2:41 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 Security people have a completely different mindset.  Everyone and
 everything is a potential threat.  I suppose to some degree they have to
 be that way, but something about the culture in these organizations
 seems to propel them to extremes.  I see this even in our own network
 security people at work.
 
 Allan
 
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Re: [MBZ] Now this looks nice

2012-08-23 Thread andrew strasfogel
That looks like a phonybaloney motorcycle blue repaint job.  I
wouldn't pay more than $2k for this one.

On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

 But $12K? and it is a gasser.

 Not sure that such low mileage is a good thing either. Sometimes sitting
 around is just as hard on things as using them.

 Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Does concentrated coolant have a shelf life?

2012-08-23 Thread G Mann
With the cost of a trip to Dr. these days... you would be money ahead to
just buy all new and call it good.. that test strip will likely cost you
$200...

Thanks for the PH test strip tip btw. lots more WalGreens than NAPA
stores around.

On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.eduwrote:

 Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com writes:

  If you have a regular doctor, his nurse might be willing to test your
  antifreeze for Ph with a strip that's used for urine.

 Or substitute a cup of antifreeze for your pee at your next physical,
 and wait for the frantic call from your Dr's office the next day

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Re: [MBZ] Florida hurricane. was: List working today?

2012-08-23 Thread Randy Bennell

On 23/08/2012 2:23 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

I can't elaborate on specifics, since I have been involved in some of the 
planning, suffice to say in my opinion I think the FBI and SS are blowing 
things out of proportion.

The big news right now (also on CNN) is how they have intercepted 
communications between the anarchists, and they are planning on blowing up 
bridges to disrupt traffic.

This could be done (disrupting traffic) but the bridges are in very visible and 
controlled areas. I don't see how anyone could get close to them if they wanted 
to.

A lot of hype and Nervous Nellies, if you ask me.

I think the anarchists make such chatter just to get law enforcement into a 
tizzy

Dan




No need to blow up bridges these days. Just wait a bit and they will 
fall down - like the one in Minneapolis a few years back.


Randy


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Re: [MBZ] List working today? With a happy ending

2012-08-23 Thread Hendrik Fay

I have been busy with this:
You know the story, after a hard day at the coal face, you come home and 
the missus announces in that femine tone that only they can produce and 
immediately makes you feel 2 inches tall.
The washing machine made a God awful noise and stopped working and it's 
your fault. (well she didn't say it was my fault but that tone in the 
voice...) Hmmnh, grab a beer and have a gander, push buttons and such, 
water goes in, water goes out but no turny of the round thingy in the 
middle of the machine.
What the., this is a Miele, it is not supposed to break down. Far 
out, OK the rinse light is flashing, that's not supposed to happen.
Googly woggly says that the flashy light means the motor is having a 
moment, Ok maybe the brushes are not brushing. Motor out and into my 
leaky workshop, many extensive and complicated tests later the brushes, 
although worn a bit are serviceable. Back to the drawing board or in 
this case http://www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=130792start=0 
right a problem on the control board, pull the board and find the meter 
of multiness. Sure enough fuse is kaputt. No worries Jaycar have a pile 
of stuff. Sales fella has a meltdown when shown the bits that are not 
biting. Humnh back home with tail between legs to find a winging missus 
bitching about the state of the local Laundromat.
But dear I am doing my best, I plead, nah get that look that makes me 
feel like a metro sexual who does not own tools or a BBQ.
Now under extreme pressure and way to early to take my medicine, I pick 
up the telling bone and let my fingers do the walking. Aztronics 
sympathise but do not have the right bits but could cobble something 
together. Hmmnh I think, looking at my fencing wire and duct tape.
I know damn well if I want my coffee and other nice things in the 
morning I am going to have to get this German clothes cleaner going 
sooner rather than later.
Some of the people in the above mentioned forum reckon that 
http://au.element14.com/ is the go for bits, hey I know how to shop 
online but how long will this take?
Well they have the right erzatsteile and promise lightening quick 
postage. So I take the plunge and 30 bucks later including shipping (I 
ordered two relays and they only sell the fuses in 10, so I have spares 
now) the deed is done. Proudly announce to the missus that parts are on 
order and everything is under control (this should buy me some time 
before she gets the poo poos and calls the bloke in the red van (which I 
believe is a MB 
http://www.miele.com.au/au/domestic/service/customersupport.htm )).
Anyway next morning I log into my element14 (sounds kinda creepy) 
account to check where my stuff is, get this:

Your order has been received.
Your order has been assigned an order number and is currently being 
processed.

 Your order has been fulfilled.
 Your order is being processed.
 Your order has been partially shipped.
 Your order had been cancelled.
 Your order is on hold.

What the flying truck, order cancelled? order on hold???
But they promised that they have the stuff ready for shipping. Now I 
have to be very careful and not show any signs of panic, as the lady of 
the house is keeping a close eye on progress.

Should I ring them?
Well anyway by the time I start to think about reaching for the blower, 
a fella arrives on the doorstep, after much announcing by my feral Jack 
Russels, I manage to squeeze out the door and grab my bag of goodies. 
Not bad, delivery in less than 24 hours, they must have got training 
from MB spares.
So now I can show the boss the wee little bits that will make the 
overworked Miele healthy again.
Grab the stick with the hot end and set myself up in the warmth of the 
dining room, to weave my magic. The fuse was easy but the 8 prong relay 
gave a hell of a fight but lost eventually.
Stick the new relay on and rush into the laundry to fit the board, turn 
on the machine and proudly announce that it's fixed and I am a God that 
must be worshipped,  hang on something is not right, OMFG I 
soldered the relay on the wrong side of the board, so much for quality 
control. Quietly sneek back to the soldering iron and pretending this is 
normal, remove relay, turn board over and with a hiss of hot metal on 
cold solder show that fn relay who the boss is.
Right O now it's God time and you just never know the missus may be very 
appreciative that she does not have to go back to the hell that is the 
Laundromat.
Turn the knob, push the button, stand back expecting the drum to turn, 
yeah right you false idol, the rinse light is telling me that I am not a 
God but a mere mortal who must face trials in order to be granted entry 
into the kingdom of the one true God.
Holding back the tears I pull the board from the machine and drag my 
sorry behind back to the table, hmmnh fuse is blown again, this can 
happen if the relay is not replaced but I replaced it. Test the relay 
with a 9v 

Re: [MBZ] OT - break away from copper - linux

2012-08-23 Thread Mountain Man
Tim wrote:
 Yes, as mentioned above set GV to ring your Seattle number and give out the
 GV number.  Not all services are equal, and you should try a few different
 SIP providers if you are having latency, noise, or drop issues before you
 give up completely.

Thanks for all the tips.
The next thing I am learning is the softwall installation my son put
up.  Configure or install a DMZ or somesuch to keep things separate.
Port forwarding, QoS, etc - all new stuff for me.  Definitely not
gonna mess with too much stuff myself as there are a number of other
users here at home that depend on softwall operating.  I hope I can
con the sons to do the config and code install stuff.  I may be back
to see you tell more about red, green, orange, purple, DMZ etc.  I
have read some posts at softwall forum to see what is generally
involved in forwarding incoming, port blocking, etc, but it remains
quite greek to me.
Thanks.
mao



 On Aug 22, 2012 8:07 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:

 I pay too much for copper connection to ATT to receive dial tone only.

 Leave it plugged in to an old wired phone, so you have dial tone in a
 power-out situation.  You only get 911 access this way, but that should
 cover you/SWMBO for real emergencies.

 handle the limited phone service we use but I would like to try and

 If you can use GV over the connection raw SIP should be the same - I
 vaguely recall that Grand Central (predecessor to GV) was a SIP service.
 Google should have huge bandwidth in Chicago so GV is probably the best
 outcome for your internet connection.

 Your connection must be always on for this to make sense.  I assume you
 already have a router set up.

 Try it for two weeks, call at all times of day and night, and you'll know
 if it's tolerable for your purposes; then you can kill the land line.

 see.  ABQ son is guiding us through installation using linksys wrp400
 voip router, callwithus, ipkall.

 Gateway device is definitely easier to get used to.  At one point I had
 three VOIP lines, but for the past few years we've been pstn only as we
 worked through some internet issues.  Suggestions:
 - plan to go to Kinko's to fax, unless you are sending a dozen pages a day
 it's not worth setting up the system around that;
 - leave one analog phone connected to the world,
 - set up asterisk if you need voice mail,
 - use GV to forward calls to your SIP number so you can change providers on
 a whim.

 We use some flavor of linux that included a SIP client Ekiga Softphone
 - has anyone used this?

 Yes.  It is sufficient, but I personally hate soft phones - I don't like
 sitting in front of the computer while on the phone.  Quality should be
 comparable to a properly-configured gateway.  It should be in repos for all
 major distros.

 Is anyone familiar with SIP  DID?  I guess I will have a Seattle
 phone number that costs $0.009 per minute if setup is via callwithus
 and ipkall.

 Yes, as mentioned above set GV to ring your Seattle number and give out the
 GV number.  Not all services are equal, and you should try a few different
 SIP providers if you are having latency, noise, or drop issues before you
 give up completely.  If you want to go away from GV in the future you can
 hand out whatever number makes you happy, then.

 Best,
 Tim

 Yeah - this should be at linux list...
 mao

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Re: [MBZ] occupying the deadly 3rd row.

2012-08-23 Thread Mountain Man
Randy wrote:
 You might want to talk to someone about depression issues?

Is this banned?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Clinical depression. was: occupying the deadly 3rd row.

2012-08-23 Thread Mountain Man
Gerry wrote:
 I second that.

I'm not gonna spend those dollars for a professional.  Food is more
important than some $*@! professional.
Yeah, some of that fits and the head needs a re-boot, for sure, but I
am doubtful that will happen.
Thanks for the kick, guys.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Florida hurricane. was: List working today?

2012-08-23 Thread Mountain Man
Dan wrote:
 I think the anarchists make such chatter just to get law enforcement into a 
 tizzy


+1  +1
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Re: [MBZ] List working today? With a happy ending

2012-08-23 Thread Max Dillon
ATTABOY!

Did I beat Wilton to it?
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Charleston SC
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'87 300TD

Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote:

I have been busy with this:
You know the story, after a hard day at the coal face, you come home and 
the missus announces in that femine tone that only they can produce and 
immediately makes you feel 2 inches tall.
The washing machine made a God awful noise and stopped working and it's 
your fault. (well she didn't say it was my fault but that tone in the 
voice...) Hmmnh, grab a beer and have a gander, push buttons and such, 
water goes in, water goes out but no turny of the round thingy in the 
middle of the machine.
What the., this is a Miele, it is not supposed to break down. Far 
out, OK the rinse light is flashing, that's not supposed to happen.
Googly woggly says that the flashy light means the motor is having a 
moment, Ok maybe the brushes are not brushing. Motor out and into my 
leaky workshop, many extensive and complicated tests later the brushes, 
although worn a bit are serviceable. Back to the drawing board or in 
this case http://www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=130792start=0 
right a problem on the control board, pull the board and find the meter 
of multiness. Sure enough fuse is kaputt. No worries Jaycar have a pile 
of stuff. Sales fella has a meltdown when shown the bits that are not 
biting. Humnh back home with tail between legs to find a winging missus 
bitching about the state of the local Laundromat.
But dear I am doing my best, I plead, nah get that look that makes me 
feel like a metro sexual who does not own tools or a BBQ.
Now under extreme pressure and way to early to take my medicine, I pick 
up the telling bone and let my fingers do the walking. Aztronics 
sympathise but do not have the right bits but could cobble something 
together. Hmmnh I think, looking at my fencing wire and duct tape.
I know damn well if I want my coffee and other nice things in the 
morning I am going to have to get this German clothes cleaner going 
sooner rather than later.
Some of the people in the above mentioned forum reckon that 
http://au.element14.com/ is the go for bits, hey I know how to shop 
online but how long will this take?
Well they have the right erzatsteile and promise lightening quick 
postage. So I take the plunge and 30 bucks later including shipping (I 
ordered two relays and they only sell the fuses in 10, so I have spares 
now) the deed is done. Proudly announce to the missus that parts are on 
order and everything is under control (this should buy me some time 
before she gets the poo poos and calls the bloke in the red van (which I 
believe is a MB 
http://www.miele.com.au/au/domestic/service/customersupport.htm )).
Anyway next morning I log into my element14 (sounds kinda creepy) 
account to check where my stuff is, get this:
Your order has been received.
Your order has been assigned an order number and is currently being 
processed.
Your order has been fulfilled.
Your order is being processed.
Your order has been partially shipped.
Your order had been cancelled.
Your order is on hold.

What the flying truck, order cancelled? order on hold???
But they promised that they have the stuff ready for shipping. Now I 
have to be very careful and not show any signs of panic, as the lady of 
the house is keeping a close eye on progress.
Should I ring them?
Well anyway by the time I start to think about reaching for the blower, 
a fella arrives on the doorstep, after much announcing by my feral Jack 
Russels, I manage to squeeze out the door and grab my bag of goodies. 
Not bad, delivery in less than 24 hours, they must have got training 
from MB spares.
So now I can show the boss the wee little bits that will make the 
overworked Miele healthy again.
Grab the stick with the hot end and set myself up in the warmth of the 
dining room, to weave my magic. The fuse was easy but the 8 prong relay 
gave a hell of a fight but lost eventually.
Stick the new relay on and rush into the laundry to fit the board, turn 
on the machine and proudly announce that it's fixed and I am a God that 
must be worshipped,  hang on something is not right, OMFG I 
soldered the relay on the wrong side of the board, so much for quality 
control. Quietly sneek back to the soldering iron and pretending this is 
normal, remove relay, turn board over and with a hiss of hot metal on 
cold solder show that fn relay who the boss is.
Right O now it's God time and you just never know the missus may be very 
appreciative that she does not have to go back to the hell that is the 
Laundromat.
Turn the knob, push the button, stand back expecting the drum to turn, 
yeah right you false idol, the rinse light is telling me that I am not a 
God but a mere mortal who must face trials in order to be granted entry 
into the kingdom of the one true God.
Holding back the tears I pull the board from the machine and drag my 
sorry behind back to the table, hmmnh fuse is blown again, this 

Re: [MBZ] List working today? With a happy ending

2012-08-23 Thread OK Don
It's the journey, not the destinatio that counts. You would not have had
NEARLY so much fun had it worked the first time! We would not have had such
an intertaining story to read. Fay would not have been anymore appreciative
of your manly status. See, it's all in your perspective. It worked out just
as it should have.

On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.netwrote:

 ATTABOY!

 Did I beat Wilton to it?
 --
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '95 E300
 '87 300TD

 Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote:

 I have been busy with this:
 You know the story, after a hard day at the coal face, you come home and
 the missus announces in that femine tone that only they can produce and
 immediately makes you feel 2 inches tall.
 The washing machine made a God awful noise and stopped working and it's
 your fault. (well she didn't say it was my fault but that tone in the
 voice...) Hmmnh, grab a beer and have a gander, push buttons and such,
 water goes in, water goes out but no turny of the round thingy in the
 middle of the machine.
 What the., this is a Miele, it is not supposed to break down. Far
 out, OK the rinse light is flashing, that's not supposed to happen.
 Googly woggly says that the flashy light means the motor is having a
 moment, Ok maybe the brushes are not brushing. Motor out and into my
 leaky workshop, many extensive and complicated tests later the brushes,
 although worn a bit are serviceable. Back to the drawing board or in
 this case http://www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=130792start=0
 right a problem on the control board, pull the board and find the meter
 of multiness. Sure enough fuse is kaputt. No worries Jaycar have a pile
 of stuff. Sales fella has a meltdown when shown the bits that are not
 biting. Humnh back home with tail between legs to find a winging missus
 bitching about the state of the local Laundromat.
 But dear I am doing my best, I plead, nah get that look that makes me
 feel like a metro sexual who does not own tools or a BBQ.
 Now under extreme pressure and way to early to take my medicine, I pick
 up the telling bone and let my fingers do the walking. Aztronics
 sympathise but do not have the right bits but could cobble something
 together. Hmmnh I think, looking at my fencing wire and duct tape.
 I know damn well if I want my coffee and other nice things in the
 morning I am going to have to get this German clothes cleaner going
 sooner rather than later.
 Some of the people in the above mentioned forum reckon that
 http://au.element14.com/ is the go for bits, hey I know how to shop
 online but how long will this take?
 Well they have the right erzatsteile and promise lightening quick
 postage. So I take the plunge and 30 bucks later including shipping (I
 ordered two relays and they only sell the fuses in 10, so I have spares
 now) the deed is done. Proudly announce to the missus that parts are on
 order and everything is under control (this should buy me some time
 before she gets the poo poos and calls the bloke in the red van (which I
 believe is a MB
 http://www.miele.com.au/au/domestic/service/customersupport.htm )).
 Anyway next morning I log into my element14 (sounds kinda creepy)
 account to check where my stuff is, get this:
 Your order has been received.
 Your order has been assigned an order number and is currently being
 processed.
 Your order has been fulfilled.
 Your order is being processed.
 Your order has been partially shipped.
 Your order had been cancelled.
 Your order is on hold.

 What the flying truck, order cancelled? order on hold???
 But they promised that they have the stuff ready for shipping. Now I
 have to be very careful and not show any signs of panic, as the lady of
 the house is keeping a close eye on progress.
 Should I ring them?
 Well anyway by the time I start to think about reaching for the blower,
 a fella arrives on the doorstep, after much announcing by my feral Jack
 Russels, I manage to squeeze out the door and grab my bag of goodies.
 Not bad, delivery in less than 24 hours, they must have got training
 from MB spares.
 So now I can show the boss the wee little bits that will make the
 overworked Miele healthy again.
 Grab the stick with the hot end and set myself up in the warmth of the
 dining room, to weave my magic. The fuse was easy but the 8 prong relay
 gave a hell of a fight but lost eventually.
 Stick the new relay on and rush into the laundry to fit the board, turn
 on the machine and proudly announce that it's fixed and I am a God that
 must be worshipped,  hang on something is not right, OMFG I
 soldered the relay on the wrong side of the board, so much for quality
 control. Quietly sneek back to the soldering iron and pretending this is
 normal, remove relay, turn board over and with a hiss of hot metal on
 cold solder show that fn relay who the boss is.
 Right O now it's God time and you just never know the missus may be very
 appreciative that she does not have to go 

Re: [MBZ] List working today? With a happy ending

2012-08-23 Thread Rich Thomas
Wait, you said the missus gave you only that look, which is no Happy 
Ending to the sordid affair.


One hopes that a barley pop or three might have put the mood back in 
place, and that a Happy Ending might yet obtain.


--R

On 8/23/2012 7:41 PM, Hendrik  Fay wrote:

I have been busy with this:
You know the story, after a hard day at the coal face, you come home 
and the missus announces in that femine tone that only they can 
produce and immediately makes you feel 2 inches tall.
The washing machine made a God awful noise and stopped working and 
it's your fault. (well she didn't say it was my fault but that tone 
in the voice...) Hmmnh, grab a beer and have a gander, push buttons 
and such, water goes in, water goes out but no turny of the round 
thingy in the middle of the machine.
What the., this is a Miele, it is not supposed to break down. Far 
out, OK the rinse light is flashing, that's not supposed to happen.
Googly woggly says that the flashy light means the motor is having a 
moment, Ok maybe the brushes are not brushing. Motor out and into my 
leaky workshop, many extensive and complicated tests later the 
brushes, although worn a bit are serviceable. Back to the drawing 
board or in this case 
http://www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=130792start=0 right a 
problem on the control board, pull the board and find the meter of 
multiness. Sure enough fuse is kaputt. No worries Jaycar have a pile 
of stuff. Sales fella has a meltdown when shown the bits that are not 
biting. Humnh back home with tail between legs to find a winging 
missus bitching about the state of the local Laundromat.
But dear I am doing my best, I plead, nah get that look that makes 
me feel like a metro sexual who does not own tools or a BBQ.
Now under extreme pressure and way to early to take my medicine, I 
pick up the telling bone and let my fingers do the walking. Aztronics 
sympathise but do not have the right bits but could cobble something 
together. Hmmnh I think, looking at my fencing wire and duct tape.
I know damn well if I want my coffee and other nice things in the 
morning I am going to have to get this German clothes cleaner going 
sooner rather than later.
Some of the people in the above mentioned forum reckon that 
http://au.element14.com/ is the go for bits, hey I know how to shop 
online but how long will this take?
Well they have the right erzatsteile and promise lightening quick 
postage. So I take the plunge and 30 bucks later including shipping (I 
ordered two relays and they only sell the fuses in 10, so I have 
spares now) the deed is done. Proudly announce to the missus that 
parts are on order and everything is under control (this should buy me 
some time before she gets the poo poos and calls the bloke in the red 
van (which I believe is a MB 
http://www.miele.com.au/au/domestic/service/customersupport.htm )).
Anyway next morning I log into my element14 (sounds kinda creepy) 
account to check where my stuff is, get this:

Your order has been received.
Your order has been assigned an order number and is currently 
being processed.

 Your order has been fulfilled.
 Your order is being processed.
 Your order has been partially shipped.
 Your order had been cancelled.
 Your order is on hold.

What the flying truck, order cancelled? order on hold???
But they promised that they have the stuff ready for shipping. Now I 
have to be very careful and not show any signs of panic, as the lady 
of the house is keeping a close eye on progress.

Should I ring them?
Well anyway by the time I start to think about reaching for the 
blower, a fella arrives on the doorstep, after much announcing by my 
feral Jack Russels, I manage to squeeze out the door and grab my bag 
of goodies. Not bad, delivery in less than 24 hours, they must have 
got training from MB spares.
So now I can show the boss the wee little bits that will make the 
overworked Miele healthy again.
Grab the stick with the hot end and set myself up in the warmth of the 
dining room, to weave my magic. The fuse was easy but the 8 prong 
relay gave a hell of a fight but lost eventually.
Stick the new relay on and rush into the laundry to fit the board, 
turn on the machine and proudly announce that it's fixed and I am a 
God that must be worshipped,  hang on something is not right, 
OMFG I soldered the relay on the wrong side of the board, so much for 
quality control. Quietly sneek back to the soldering iron and 
pretending this is normal, remove relay, turn board over and with a 
hiss of hot metal on cold solder show that fn relay who the boss is.
Right O now it's God time and you just never know the missus may be 
very appreciative that she does not have to go back to the hell that 
is the Laundromat.
Turn the knob, push the button, stand back expecting the drum to turn, 
yeah right you false idol, the rinse light is telling me that I am not 
a God but a mere mortal who must face trials in order to be granted 

Re: [MBZ] List working today? With a happy ending

2012-08-23 Thread Max Dillon
WW NN SNM!
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD

Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

Wait, you said the missus gave you only that look, which is no Happy 
Ending to the sordid affair.

One hopes that a barley pop or three might have put the mood back in 
place, and that a Happy Ending might yet obtain.

--R

On 8/23/2012 7:41 PM, Hendrik  Fay wrote:
 I have been busy with this:
 You know the story, after a hard day at the coal face, you come home 
 and the missus announces in that femine tone that only they can 
 produce and immediately makes you feel 2 inches tall.
 The washing machine made a God awful noise and stopped working and 
 it's your fault. (well she didn't say it was my fault but that tone 
 in the voice...) Hmmnh, grab a beer and have a gander, push buttons 
 and such, water goes in, water goes out but no turny of the round 
 thingy in the middle of the machine.
 What the., this is a Miele, it is not supposed to break down. Far 
 out, OK the rinse light is flashing, that's not supposed to happen.
 Googly woggly says that the flashy light means the motor is having a 
 moment, Ok maybe the brushes are not brushing. Motor out and into my 
 leaky workshop, many extensive and complicated tests later the 
 brushes, although worn a bit are serviceable. Back to the drawing 
 board or in this case 
 http://www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=130792start=0 right a 
 problem on the control board, pull the board and find the meter of 
 multiness. Sure enough fuse is kaputt. No worries Jaycar have a pile 
 of stuff. Sales fella has a meltdown when shown the bits that are not 
 biting. Humnh back home with tail between legs to find a winging 
 missus bitching about the state of the local Laundromat.
 But dear I am doing my best, I plead, nah get that look that makes 
 me feel like a metro sexual who does not own tools or a BBQ.
 Now under extreme pressure and way to early to take my medicine, I 
 pick up the telling bone and let my fingers do the walking. Aztronics 
 sympathise but do not have the right bits but could cobble something 
 together. Hmmnh I think, looking at my fencing wire and duct tape.
 I know damn well if I want my coffee and other nice things in the 
 morning I am going to have to get this German clothes cleaner going 
 sooner rather than later.
 Some of the people in the above mentioned forum reckon that 
 http://au.element14.com/ is the go for bits, hey I know how to shop 
 online but how long will this take?
 Well they have the right erzatsteile and promise lightening quick 
 postage. So I take the plunge and 30 bucks later including shipping (I 
 ordered two relays and they only sell the fuses in 10, so I have 
 spares now) the deed is done. Proudly announce to the missus that 
 parts are on order and everything is under control (this should buy me 
 some time before she gets the poo poos and calls the bloke in the red 
 van (which I believe is a MB 
 http://www.miele.com.au/au/domestic/service/customersupport.htm )).
 Anyway next morning I log into my element14 (sounds kinda creepy) 
 account to check where my stuff is, get this:
 Your order has been received.
 Your order has been assigned an order number and is currently 
 being processed.
 Your order has been fulfilled.
 Your order is being processed.
 Your order has been partially shipped.
 Your order had been cancelled.
 Your order is on hold.

 What the flying truck, order cancelled? order on hold???
 But they promised that they have the stuff ready for shipping. Now I 
 have to be very careful and not show any signs of panic, as the lady 
 of the house is keeping a close eye on progress.
 Should I ring them?
 Well anyway by the time I start to think about reaching for the 
 blower, a fella arrives on the doorstep, after much announcing by my 
 feral Jack Russels, I manage to squeeze out the door and grab my bag 
 of goodies. Not bad, delivery in less than 24 hours, they must have 
 got training from MB spares.
 So now I can show the boss the wee little bits that will make the 
 overworked Miele healthy again.
 Grab the stick with the hot end and set myself up in the warmth of the 
 dining room, to weave my magic. The fuse was easy but the 8 prong 
 relay gave a hell of a fight but lost eventually.
 Stick the new relay on and rush into the laundry to fit the board, 
 turn on the machine and proudly announce that it's fixed and I am a 
 God that must be worshipped,  hang on something is not right, 
 OMFG I soldered the relay on the wrong side of the board, so much for 
 quality control. Quietly sneek back to the soldering iron and 
 pretending this is normal, remove relay, turn board over and with a 
 hiss of hot metal on cold solder show that fn relay who the boss is.
 Right O now it's God time and you just never know the missus may be 
 very appreciative that she does not have to go back to the hell that 
 is the Laundromat.
 Turn the knob, push the button, stand back expecting the 

Re: [MBZ] List working today? With a happy ending

2012-08-23 Thread WILTON

Yep.  ATTABOY, anyway!

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] List working today? With a happy ending



ATTABOY!

Did I beat Wilton to it?
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD

Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote:

I have been busy with this:
You know the story, after a hard day at the coal face, you come home and 
the missus announces in that femine tone that only they can produce and 
immediately makes you feel 2 inches tall.
The washing machine made a God awful noise and stopped working and it's 
your fault. (well she didn't say it was my fault but that tone in the 
voice...) Hmmnh, grab a beer and have a gander, push buttons and such, 
water goes in, water goes out but no turny of the round thingy in the 
middle of the machine.
What the., this is a Miele, it is not supposed to break down. Far 
out, OK the rinse light is flashing, that's not supposed to happen.
Googly woggly says that the flashy light means the motor is having a 
moment, Ok maybe the brushes are not brushing. Motor out and into my 
leaky workshop, many extensive and complicated tests later the brushes, 
although worn a bit are serviceable. Back to the drawing board or in 
this case http://www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=130792start=0 
right a problem on the control board, pull the board and find the meter 
of multiness. Sure enough fuse is kaputt. No worries Jaycar have a pile 
of stuff. Sales fella has a meltdown when shown the bits that are not 
biting. Humnh back home with tail between legs to find a winging missus 
bitching about the state of the local Laundromat.
But dear I am doing my best, I plead, nah get that look that makes me 
feel like a metro sexual who does not own tools or a BBQ.
Now under extreme pressure and way to early to take my medicine, I pick 
up the telling bone and let my fingers do the walking. Aztronics 
sympathise but do not have the right bits but could cobble something 
together. Hmmnh I think, looking at my fencing wire and duct tape.
I know damn well if I want my coffee and other nice things in the 
morning I am going to have to get this German clothes cleaner going 
sooner rather than later.
Some of the people in the above mentioned forum reckon that 
http://au.element14.com/ is the go for bits, hey I know how to shop 
online but how long will this take?
Well they have the right erzatsteile and promise lightening quick 
postage. So I take the plunge and 30 bucks later including shipping (I 
ordered two relays and they only sell the fuses in 10, so I have spares 
now) the deed is done. Proudly announce to the missus that parts are on 
order and everything is under control (this should buy me some time 
before she gets the poo poos and calls the bloke in the red van (which I 
believe is a MB 
http://www.miele.com.au/au/domestic/service/customersupport.htm )).
Anyway next morning I log into my element14 (sounds kinda creepy) 
account to check where my stuff is, get this:

Your order has been received.
Your order has been assigned an order number and is currently being 
processed.

Your order has been fulfilled.
Your order is being processed.
Your order has been partially shipped.
Your order had been cancelled.
Your order is on hold.

What the flying truck, order cancelled? order on hold???
But they promised that they have the stuff ready for shipping. Now I 
have to be very careful and not show any signs of panic, as the lady of 
the house is keeping a close eye on progress.

Should I ring them?
Well anyway by the time I start to think about reaching for the blower, 
a fella arrives on the doorstep, after much announcing by my feral Jack 
Russels, I manage to squeeze out the door and grab my bag of goodies. 
Not bad, delivery in less than 24 hours, they must have got training 
from MB spares.
So now I can show the boss the wee little bits that will make the 
overworked Miele healthy again.
Grab the stick with the hot end and set myself up in the warmth of the 
dining room, to weave my magic. The fuse was easy but the 8 prong relay 
gave a hell of a fight but lost eventually.
Stick the new relay on and rush into the laundry to fit the board, turn 
on the machine and proudly announce that it's fixed and I am a God that 
must be worshipped,  hang on something is not right, OMFG I 
soldered the relay on the wrong side of the board, so much for quality 
control. Quietly sneek back to the soldering iron and pretending this is 
normal, remove relay, turn board over and with a hiss of hot metal on 
cold solder show that fn relay who the boss is.
Right O now it's God time and you just never know the missus may be very 
appreciative that she does not have to go back to the hell that is the 
Laundromat.
Turn the knob, push the button, stand back expecting the drum to turn, 
yeah right you false idol, the rinse light is telling me 

Re: [MBZ] Clinical depression. was: occupying the deadly 3rd row.

2012-08-23 Thread Gerry Archer


- Original Message - 
From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Clinical depression. was: occupying the deadly 3rd row.



Gerry wrote:

I second that.


I'm not gonna spend those dollars for a professional.  Food is more
important than some $*@! professional.
Yeah, some of that fits and the head needs a re-boot, for sure, but I
am doubtful that will happen.
Thanks for the kick, guys.
mao

These meetings are run by people with the same problems as yours; no 
professionals; they are free, and they work.

http://www.lowselfhelpsystems.org/meetings/find-a-meeting.asp

This is the organization that has been growing worldwide since 1937:
http://www.lowselfhelpsystems.org/about/about-self-help-systems.asp

'nuff said,
Gerry 



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[MBZ] W.M. Keck Observatory

2012-08-23 Thread Craig
I mentioned earlier (on the 9th, to be exact) about finding a position in
Hawaii.

The position I found is a senior electronics engineer with the W. M. Keck
Observatory. This position involves preparing equipment for the
Observatory's two 10 meter telescopes. The telescopes are on the top of
13,796 foot Mauna Kea on the big island of Hawai'i. The Observatory's
headquarters are off the mountain at Kameula, HI.

I did some revision of my CV, wrote a cover letter, and applied for the
position on 16 August (a week ago).

I had not expected to hear anything about the postion, but I received a
phone call today from a person in the Observatory's Human Resources
Department. We talked for 25 - 30 minutes. He said if they choose to
continue considering me, the next step would be either a call from the
hiring manager if he needed more technical information or a panel phone
call from 3 or so people around a speaker phone over there. This is
exactly what happened for each of the four academic telephone interviews
I had.

So, we shall see how things develop. Please pray about this position with
me.

Thanks,


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] W.M. Keck Observatory

2012-08-23 Thread Dieselhead

We are rooting for you!



I mentioned earlier (on the 9th, to be exact) about finding a position in
Hawaii.

The position I found is a senior electronics engineer with the W. M. Keck
Observatory. This position involves preparing equipment for the
Observatory's two 10 meter telescopes. The telescopes are on the top of
13,796 foot Mauna Kea on the big island of Hawai'i. The Observatory's
headquarters are off the mountain at Kameula, HI.

I did some revision of my CV, wrote a cover letter, and applied for the
position on 16 August (a week ago).

I had not expected to hear anything about the postion, but I received a
phone call today from a person in the Observatory's Human Resources
Department. We talked for 25 - 30 minutes. He said if they choose to
continue considering me, the next step would be either a call from the
hiring manager if he needed more technical information or a panel phone
call from 3 or so people around a speaker phone over there. This is
exactly what happened for each of the four academic telephone interviews
I had.

So, we shall see how things develop. Please pray about this position with
me.

Thanks,

Craig


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Re: [MBZ] W.M. Keck Observatory

2012-08-23 Thread Gerry Archer

Good luck, Craig.
Gerry

From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com

We are rooting for you!



I mentioned earlier (on the 9th, to be exact) about finding a position in
Hawaii.

The position I found is a senior electronics engineer with the W. M. Keck
Observatory. This position involves preparing equipment for the
Observatory's two 10 meter telescopes. The telescopes are on the top of
13,796 foot Mauna Kea on the big island of Hawai'i. The Observatory's
headquarters are off the mountain at Kameula, HI.

I did some revision of my CV, wrote a cover letter, and applied for the
position on 16 August (a week ago).

I had not expected to hear anything about the postion, but I received a
phone call today from a person in the Observatory's Human Resources
Department. We talked for 25 - 30 minutes. He said if they choose to
continue considering me, the next step would be either a call from the
hiring manager if he needed more technical information or a panel phone
call from 3 or so people around a speaker phone over there. This is
exactly what happened for each of the four academic telephone interviews
I had.

So, we shall see how things develop. Please pray about this position with
me.

Thanks,

Craig


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[MBZ] 603 intake manifold RR

2012-08-23 Thread Alex Chamberlain
I'm getting ready to remove the intake manifold on the '87 300D in
order to replace all the glow plugs at once, including reaming the
prechambers.  (I've had three premature GP failures in the past six
months or so, and suspect carboned-up prechambers.)  Also doing some
other stuff that needs fixing and will be easy to get to while the
manifold and crossover pipe are off, like a new valve cover gasket.
I'll be changing the oil at the same time, but should I also plan to
drain the coolant?  Also, what's the torque spec on the manifold
bolts?  Should I put anything on the gasket or just put it on dry?

Thanks for any tips or hints.
Alex

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Re: [MBZ] 603 intake manifold RR

2012-08-23 Thread Peter Frederick

If I remember correctly, the gasket has sealant on it.

This can be a bit fiddly, remember how the injection line clamps go on  
and don't drop any of the nuts.


The hex head screws can be a pain in the backside to reach.

Torque is 20 ft/lbs or so, they are the equivalent of 1/4 20 screws.

No coolant exposed, no need to drain.

Do the usual on the valve cover gasket -- totally clean cover, bang it  
on the head until you get a solid thwack to seat the seal, don't  
overtighten.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 603 intake manifold RR

2012-08-23 Thread Dieselhead
I bought a snap-on 6 mm ball head hex (allen) socket, 3/8 drive and 
6 long for the intake manifold bolts.  It makes life MUCH easier. 
If they have an 8 one, that would be good too.


Start a couple of bolts (upper) through the manifold, then pull the 
manifold away from the head and drop the gasket in.  it has hooks to 
catch on the bolts as you slide it in.  Gasket has rubber sealant on 
it.  It is truly a one use gasket.


You should get a gasket for the crossover pipe also; especially if 
you don't want oil leaking there.




If I remember correctly, the gasket has sealant on it.

This can be a bit fiddly, remember how the injection line clamps go 
on and don't drop any of the nuts.


The hex head screws can be a pain in the backside to reach.

Torque is 20 ft/lbs or so, they are the equivalent of 1/4 20 screws.

No coolant exposed, no need to drain.

Do the usual on the valve cover gasket -- totally clean cover, bang 
it on the head until you get a solid thwack to seat the seal, 
don't overtighten.


Peter


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Re: [MBZ] 603 intake manifold RR

2012-08-23 Thread Craig
On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:24:57 -0500 Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net
wrote:

 If I remember correctly, the gasket has sealant on it.

Hylomar Advanced Formula is highly recommended.


 This can be a bit fiddly, remember how the injection line clamps go on  
 and don't drop any of the nuts.

Take a picture beforehand to show how it all goes together after it's
apart.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 603 intake manifold RR

2012-08-23 Thread Peter Frederick
Also do not forget the support brackets for the glow plug wires.  if  
you leave them out the brackets will fall down and short on the  
manifold.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] W.M. Keck Observatory

2012-08-23 Thread Craig
On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:51:41 -0400 Gerry Archer
arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:

 Good luck, Craig.
 Gerry
 
 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
  We are rooting for you!

Thanks, guys. I'll keep you posted on what develops.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] W.M. Keck Observatory

2012-08-23 Thread Dave Walton
Be careful navigating Saddle road. Last time I was there the rental car add-on 
insurance did not cover any incident occurring on that road. It's the only way 
to get to the observatory short of a helicopter ride. It will snow near the 
peak and most people there have long forgotten how to drive in the stuff. You 
will even get black ice accumulating from the fog. 

Dive shops, boat charters and many others will give you 25-50% off the 
advertised tourist rate if you can convince them you are a resident. 

Best of luck!

-Dave Walton

On Aug 23, 2012, at 10:31 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

 I mentioned earlier (on the 9th, to be exact) about finding a position in
 Hawaii.
 
 The position I found is a senior electronics engineer with the W. M. Keck
 Observatory. This position involves preparing equipment for the
 Observatory's two 10 meter telescopes. The telescopes are on the top of
 13,796 foot Mauna Kea on the big island of Hawai'i. The Observatory's
 headquarters are off the mountain at Kameula, HI.
 
 I did some revision of my CV, wrote a cover letter, and applied for the
 position on 16 August (a week ago).
 
 I had not expected to hear anything about the postion, but I received a
 phone call today from a person in the Observatory's Human Resources
 Department. We talked for 25 - 30 minutes. He said if they choose to
 continue considering me, the next step would be either a call from the
 hiring manager if he needed more technical information or a panel phone
 call from 3 or so people around a speaker phone over there. This is
 exactly what happened for each of the four academic telephone interviews
 I had.
 
 So, we shall see how things develop. Please pray about this position with
 me.
 
 Thanks,
 
 
 Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] 603 intake manifold RR

2012-08-23 Thread Dave Walton
I used Hylomar and reused the crossover pipe and manifold gaskets. Works fine. 
Check the green O-rings. If they are hard, replace. 

Mine was loaded up with an insane amount of oil residue from the EGR on the 
S350. I scraped out what I could get to then used the welding gloves to hold it 
while I pointed a propane torch into it to heat up the rest until it oozed out. 
Got several cups worth of crud. 

Hylomar now comes in a blue blister pack from Permatex. Easy to miss it. 

-Dave Walton

On Aug 23, 2012, at 11:00 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm getting ready to remove the intake manifold on the '87 300D in
 order to replace all the glow plugs at once, including reaming the
 prechambers.  (I've had three premature GP failures in the past six
 months or so, and suspect carboned-up prechambers.)  Also doing some
 other stuff that needs fixing and will be easy to get to while the
 manifold and crossover pipe are off, like a new valve cover gasket.
 I'll be changing the oil at the same time, but should I also plan to
 drain the coolant?  Also, what's the torque spec on the manifold
 bolts?  Should I put anything on the gasket or just put it on dry?
 
 Thanks for any tips or hints.
 Alex
 
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Re: [MBZ] 603 intake manifold RR

2012-08-23 Thread Dave Walton
Make sure you put back the injection line support clips too. If you do not the 
engine vibrations will cause the lines to crack. I was lazy and found out the 
hard way. #6 broke off right at the injector. 


On Aug 23, 2012, at 11:41 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Also do not forget the support brackets for the glow plug wires.  if you 
 leave them out the brackets will fall down and short on the manifold.
 
 Peter
 
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Re: [MBZ] 603 intake manifold RR

2012-08-23 Thread Peter Frederick

No EGR crud if you use Mobil 1, at least in my experience.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] W.M. Keck Observatory

2012-08-23 Thread Mitch Haley

Dave Walton wrote:
Be careful navigating Saddle road. Last time I was there the rental car add-on insurance did not cover any incident occurring on that road. It's the only way to get to the observatory short of a helicopter ride. It will snow near the peak and most people there have long forgotten how to drive in the stuff. You will even get black ice accumulating from the fog. 



I wonder how hard it is to find a W210 with 4matic and ESP (2000-2002 model 
years) in Hawaii?


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 603 intake manifold RR

2012-08-23 Thread Craig
On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 23:48:35 -0400 Dave Walton walton.d...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hylomar now comes in a blue blister pack from Permatex. Easy to miss
 it.

They now have several different types of Hylomar. I got the Advanced
Formula which is what the old stuff was. It came in a cardboard box.
I got the 100 gram tube at http://www.zorotools.com/g/00064940/k-G2500994


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Clinical depression. was: occupying the deadly 3rd row.

2012-08-23 Thread G Mann
I object to the sudden logic that recognizing and accepting that no one
leaves this world alive somehow makes you depressed.

Further, I object to the idea that just because we live in a financial
depression with near total lack of good leadership that we are personally
depressed.

FFS... doesn't anybody own or wear big boy pants anymore?

Grant...

On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:

 Gerry wrote:
  I second that.

 I'm not gonna spend those dollars for a professional.  Food is more
 important than some $*@! professional.
 Yeah, some of that fits and the head needs a re-boot, for sure, but I
 am doubtful that will happen.
 Thanks for the kick, guys.
 mao

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Re: [MBZ] List working today? With a happy ending

2012-08-23 Thread G Mann
I feel your pain mate...
When the missus has a bad day... everybody has a bad day...

Grant...

On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 Wait, you said the missus gave you only that look, which is no Happy
 Ending to the sordid affair.

 One hopes that a barley pop or three might have put the mood back in
 place, and that a Happy Ending might yet obtain.

 --R


 On 8/23/2012 7:41 PM, Hendrik  Fay wrote:

 I have been busy with this:
 You know the story, after a hard day at the coal face, you come home and
 the missus announces in that femine tone that only they can produce and
 immediately makes you feel 2 inches tall.
 The washing machine made a God awful noise and stopped working and it's
 your fault. (well she didn't say it was my fault but that tone in the
 voice...) Hmmnh, grab a beer and have a gander, push buttons and such,
 water goes in, water goes out but no turny of the round thingy in the
 middle of the machine.
 What the., this is a Miele, it is not supposed to break down. Far
 out, OK the rinse light is flashing, that's not supposed to happen.
 Googly woggly says that the flashy light means the motor is having a
 moment, Ok maybe the brushes are not brushing. Motor out and into my leaky
 workshop, many extensive and complicated tests later the brushes, although
 worn a bit are serviceable. Back to the drawing board or in this case
 http://www.diynot.com/forums/**viewtopic.php?t=130792start=0http://www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=130792start=0right
  a problem on the control board, pull the board and find the meter of
 multiness. Sure enough fuse is kaputt. No worries Jaycar have a pile of
 stuff. Sales fella has a meltdown when shown the bits that are not biting.
 Humnh back home with tail between legs to find a winging missus bitching
 about the state of the local Laundromat.
 But dear I am doing my best, I plead, nah get that look that makes me
 feel like a metro sexual who does not own tools or a BBQ.
 Now under extreme pressure and way to early to take my medicine, I pick
 up the telling bone and let my fingers do the walking. Aztronics sympathise
 but do not have the right bits but could cobble something together. Hmmnh I
 think, looking at my fencing wire and duct tape.
 I know damn well if I want my coffee and other nice things in the morning
 I am going to have to get this German clothes cleaner going sooner rather
 than later.
 Some of the people in the above mentioned forum reckon that
 http://au.element14.com/ is the go for bits, hey I know how to shop
 online but how long will this take?
 Well they have the right erzatsteile and promise lightening quick
 postage. So I take the plunge and 30 bucks later including shipping (I
 ordered two relays and they only sell the fuses in 10, so I have spares
 now) the deed is done. Proudly announce to the missus that parts are on
 order and everything is under control (this should buy me some time before
 she gets the poo poos and calls the bloke in the red van (which I believe
 is a MB http://www.miele.com.au/au/**domestic/service/**
 customersupport.htmhttp://www.miele.com.au/au/domestic/service/customersupport.htm)).
 Anyway next morning I log into my element14 (sounds kinda creepy) account
 to check where my stuff is, get this:
 Your order has been received.
 Your order has been assigned an order number and is currently being
 processed.
  Your order has been fulfilled.
  Your order is being processed.
  Your order has been partially shipped.
  Your order had been cancelled.
  Your order is on hold.

 What the flying truck, order cancelled? order on hold???
 But they promised that they have the stuff ready for shipping. Now I have
 to be very careful and not show any signs of panic, as the lady of the
 house is keeping a close eye on progress.
 Should I ring them?
 Well anyway by the time I start to think about reaching for the blower, a
 fella arrives on the doorstep, after much announcing by my feral Jack
 Russels, I manage to squeeze out the door and grab my bag of goodies. Not
 bad, delivery in less than 24 hours, they must have got training from MB
 spares.
 So now I can show the boss the wee little bits that will make the
 overworked Miele healthy again.
 Grab the stick with the hot end and set myself up in the warmth of the
 dining room, to weave my magic. The fuse was easy but the 8 prong relay
 gave a hell of a fight but lost eventually.
 Stick the new relay on and rush into the laundry to fit the board, turn
 on the machine and proudly announce that it's fixed and I am a God that
 must be worshipped,  hang on something is not right, OMFG I
 soldered the relay on the wrong side of the board, so much for quality
 control. Quietly sneek back to the soldering iron and pretending this is
 normal, remove relay, turn board over and with a hiss of hot metal on cold
 solder show that fn relay who the boss is.
 Right O now it's God time and 

Re: [MBZ] W.M. Keck Observatory

2012-08-23 Thread Dieselhead

Not



Dave Walton wrote:
Be careful navigating Saddle road. Last time I was there the rental 
car add-on insurance did not cover any incident occurring on that 
road. It's the only way to get to the observatory short of a 
helicopter ride. It will snow near the peak and most people there 
have long forgotten how to drive in the stuff. You will even get 
black ice accumulating from the fog.



I wonder how hard it is to find a W210 with 4matic and ESP 
(2000-2002 model years) in Hawaii?


Mitch.


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